The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Just dropped by before doing some real work.

Most of you guys sound absolutely like idiots. Where in the hell did you get your education? and your morals, manners, etc. You are the type of people I do not want for neighbors or friends (or family). Go do some good work like volunteering instead of this stupid stuff you "write"

I thought it was pretty good lick this morning when McClellan reminded everyone that President Bush lowered the bar for Rove when he discovered that Scooter and Rove had been involved in outing a CIA agent.

"Muddy sty", anotherwhitedude? For the love of my grandfather's hymn book, you leapt with such gleeful alacrity into a description of the places one would most likely be fellated that I highly suspected you of being an oral sex fiend yourself (until I recalled your unfortunate condition)!
whitedude said nothing about Lakisha's race. Perhaps you need to take a nap.
A black president in the White House would go far in healing this nation's wounds. But Obama is not that black man.
As for "african americans taking back what is theres [sic]",
yeah, no. Just no. What??

Bushie, rove, and the other enemies of the Union must indeed be perplexed...at how the 'conditioning' failed.

"This is not the Scott we programmed"

George-

Your ire has further addled your already impaired capacity for rational thought. So your own indulgence in "inane vitriol" was insincere, a mere provocation to see how I would react? I suppose you regard petitions to perform oral sex and references to impotence to be on a higher axiological and rhetorical plane than my reference to the authoress of your days (please pass along my regards, by the way). You are right, though: I have debased myself by rolling around in your muddy sty and indulging in the same sort of reprehensible name-calling to which you and "whitedude" resorted (without provocation, however).

Meanwhile, Lakisha's excellent point (made, to be sure, with the grammatical mistakes typical of this medium, which "whitedude" seized upon in a racist denigration of her education) has gone unaddressed: there will be no justice for African Americans until they wield political power.

Vietnam Vet:

Why would you not be outraged at the continual lies that Bush et al have peddled? Even worse lies were told to justify Vietnam. Thank God you survived. But many soldiers didn't, and it wasn't until a short time ago (maybe within the last ten years) that Robert McNamara "came clean" in his tearful admissions. I would think that Vietnam vets would be more insenced than anyone about the president lying in order to justify a wrongheaded war.

anotherwhitedude,
WD was attacking the idiocy of an idiot, and rightly so, be he hypocrite, jester or king.
Regardless, I was only wondering how you would react to the sort of inane vitriol that comes so easily to you behind the shield of anonymity. I detect a quiver in your voice, so it's clear I've hit a nerve. I'm sorry. But the "Your Mother" retort is Classic. I once almost used it myself, but have now been vindicated in my conjecture that its use is - not even the abandonment of wit - but the natural province of the apes.
Now go invent a legume, genius.

The problem I have is that all of you armchair quarterbacks are at it again!During Vietnam you gave the 58,260 soldiers names that are on the wall the bird and once again you,re doing it again.I have a cure for you!Why don't you go to Africa and see how your liberal policies are working.That's what's coming to America if you have your way.Sad to say when someone does not study history they're doomed to repeat it.

Bush et al are "puzzled" because they can't understand why McClellan would tell the truth!

Bush's "integrity" is like a bald man's combover. He's dishonest, he knows he's dishonest, he knows that everyone knows he's dishonest, yet he continues to pretend to be a paragon of virtue and honesty.

Those of us who recognized Bush as a fraud from day one are sitting back licking our chops saying I told you so. Unfortunately, given the disastrous state of affairs Bush's sell out of this country has put us in, there is no joy in being able to say that.

On the positive side, just nine more months and every American can delight in declaring TGGIG (Thank God George Is Gone)!

Dear George-

I think you missed the larger point here. "Whitedude" was hypocritically attacking another poster for the kinds of grammatical mistakes all of us make while writing on the Internet--not exactly a medium propitious for profound or elegant communication. I called him out.

As for erectile dysfunction (an ad hominem attack typical of those with no substantial arguments) I think you've confused me with "whitedude". Your mother can attest to the fact I suffer no such ailment. Tell her that as soon as she gets your DNA test back, I'll be happy to send child support.

It is very interesting to see the so called world of America haters as the Dems claim. Take a look at the world and you see those that were once socialist are now becoming capitalist. The rest of the world is turning towards our way of thinking, yet we are turning towards the old socialist viewpoints.

Bush can do nothing without the congress, people here seem to forget that. The real power is in the congress, not the president. Congress by the way, has a lower poll rate than Bush.

I agree with some of the above, if the two parties thought of America first instead of their parties, we would already be out of Iraq with a victory. Fighting one hand behind our backs will always take longer than fighting full force. The so-called unbias media won't show victory of anykind in Irag, just take a look at past/current reports. This same un-biased press(90% admitted dems, you guys seem to fail to report that everytime you bash on Fox news) has no problem running pictures or reporting our deaths, but won't show the enemy deaths or reporting their failures. The press is more likely to believe everything the enemy says without checking out facts, but questions anything our side says. Remember when the Dems/Press ran to the mics and told us that Americans slaughtered women and children, reports giving to them by the enemy, ran it without a second thought........oh ya, untill the video came out showing the ambush by the enemy on those troops. Did the press/Dems run to the mics to clear those soldiers they smeared? No.. Why? Maybe we should help those who actually are putting their lives on the line and help them win. Support the troops not the mission is a joke, if you support the troops you need to support the mission to make sure they live through the mission. To many couch sitters here talking about things they have no clue about. Questions are welcomed, just make them equal to the other viewpoint, America first, not the Dem/Rep party first, to many of you are more interested in your party viewpoint rather than the success of the American public. "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." America's biggest problem is we are not united anymore under one idea. Too many people are interested in their piece of the puzzle and keeping it to themselves instead of helping each other put their pieces together to make the bigger picture. Socialism doesn't work, humans are to imperfect to make it work. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. If things stay the same, selfish Dems/Rep thinking we are well on our way to Hell.

never trust someone who says "Second of all" in TWO sentences in a row.

It's ALMOST as bad as over-using the phrase, "if you will".

Hey Stephen Jeffries-

Stop watching Fox news channel, which is notorious for inventing facts to suit their political agenda. When the entire state of Florida was finally recounted following the 2000 coup, Shrub did not win. Gore won. This is a well established and (excepting Fox) widely accepted fact.

As for everyone else, who uses the word "lib" like it is a dirty word, try this one... fascist republican. Yeah, take anyone of Bush's let's bomb 'em back to the stone age speeches during the lead up to war, lay it side by side with anyone of Adolph Hitler's speeches, blackout the names, dates and places and ask your friends to tell you which speech was delivered by whom. The similarities are frightfully astounding. Most people cannot distinguish the two apart from one another!

As for the economy, do a little more homework. You will learn that G.W. Shrub was CEO of three different business ventures prior to becoming the deadliest governor in Texas history. All three businesses failed and Shrub was forced to rely on his daddy's rich Arab friends to bail him out all three times! It was not until the infamous land grab deal for a stadium, in which Bush was recruited for his political ties to legally force the rightful owner of the land to relinquish his property rights, that Bush finally made his own fortune. The worst kind of thief is the one who steals with impunity!

Face it, Bush is and always has been a loser, born with a silver spoon up his nose. It is no accident that his legacy will be that of the worst president in U.S. history!

Americans love the truth and generally have more respect for someone who fesses up rather than continue to insist lies are reality. We all should put country before our party.

How dare Karl Rove to say a tale about McClellan. Ever since Rove turned draft dodger he has never served his Union!

No denials of the accuracy of McClellan's (very late) admissions and criticisms, just, " doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't"....

Well, duh! stupid! _This_ time he's _not_ reading the scripts _you_ prepared!

Sheesh.

Oh, yeah, you're soon up for sworn testimony before Congress, Rove. Bet you 'sound different' then, too.

Scott McClellan's book about Bush after his stint as White House spokesperson should not be all that surprising. We know Bush is the worst president ever from his approval ratings and his actions. The Bush-Cheney White House has always been extremely secretive and I expect a lot of political spin on this one. It is likely that the post-Bush era will see many more "insiders" tell of the horrors of this dreadful Administration.

And of course there will be the classic Republican claims of a "liberal media", even though this is McClellan's book. We shouldn't believe this is possible, even though we all suspect these evil and stupid deeds by Bush. Give it more time, the Bush error will continue to unravel after years of White House control of media contact.

Bush is an embarrassment to Americans and the world. We all will shout it from the hilltops after January 20, 2009.

droppingknowledge wrote: "Will you libs quit with that BS? Is it too complicated to see that if she was in such mortal danger she wouldn't be in dozens of magazine articles and write a book? If you were a CIA "secret" agent would YOU write a book and pose in magazines etc etc etc?
She sure mugs it up for the cameras for someone whose life is in danger. The fact is she has a publicist and agent."

LOL. All of the publicity occurred after she was outed by Rove et al

KAckermann wrote:
"Rove denied he leaked the name of a CIA agent and put her life in jeopardy."

Will you libs quit with that BS? Is it too complicated to see that if she was in such mortal danger she wouldn't be in dozens of magazine articles and write a book? If you were a CIA "secret" agent would YOU write a book and pose in magazines etc etc etc?
She sure mugs it up for the cameras for someone whose life is in danger. The fact is she has a publicist and agent.

You fools suddenly call McClellan's words pure truth? A couple of years ago he was talked about as Bush's propaganda minister! Every liberal here missed the obvious (what else is new)-McClellan is doing what his dad did. Barr McClellan wrote a book about "insider knowledge" about JFK's death at the hands of LBJ. Sr McClellan only came out with this knowledge AFTER he got run off-just like Scott. Libs need to learn history, we conservatives are tired of repeating it because of you morons.

Hey anotherwhitedude. Long-time listener, first-time caller. Big fan. Anyway, I was sorry to hear about your permanent and withering erectile dysfunction; that is, until I read your latest masterpiece. Now I nearly weep with joy at the fact that you will never be blessed with progeny upon whom to exert influence, as your example isn't worth a herring's right t*t.
P.S. How's my English, Nancy?

Hey anotherwhitedude. Long-time listener, first-time caller. Big fan. Anyway, I was sorry to hear about your permanent and withering erectile dysfunction; that is, until I read your latest masterpiece. Now I nearly weep with joy at the fact that you will never be blessed with progeny upon whom to exert influence, as your example isn't worth a herring's right tit.
P.S. How's my English, Nancy?

Whitedude:

Did you mean to say "put in an apostrophe"? Why is it carelessness when you make a mistake, but deficient schooling when others do so? As for "blowing you": sorry, I'm not into that, but if you're really that hard up, I believe there are a variety of bathhouses, public restrooms, and Republican Senate offices to suit your needs. And if you keep up your pathetic, self-righteous comments, I've got some more recommendations.

Anotherwhitedude,

You are correct. I was careless in typing and put an apostrophe. You can still blow me. Do you have a clever reply to my point about Carver inventing the peanut?

I don't know why people keep picking on Rove.

The FBI dropped their investigation of him in 1973 for... it doesn't matter; they dropped it.

The DA dismissed the charge of illegal voter registration when he listed the address of two cottages his wife owned as his residence. Just because those cottages were rented to other people doesn't mean he didn't live there.

Just because terror alerts were issued every single time Kerry got a bump in the polls doesn't mean it wasn't coincidence or that it was Rove.

Just because he held stock in Enron while sitting in on energy policy meetings that included Enron doesn't mean he let all that money influence him. Plus, Cheney had more.

Just because he had professional ties to the producers of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth... it doesn't mean anything.

Rove denied he leaked the name of a CIA agent and put her life in jeopardy.

As far as the whole US attorney thing: I don't want to get into it because the details conspire against him, but I will say this: where does it say that the Justice department cannot be used for political purposes?

Anyone can lose a few hundred thousand emails that coincided with critical dates. Also, as far as using outside servers not subjected to the Presidential Records act for official business - there are so many servers out there how could you not use the wrong one?

The Seigleman thing? He said he had nothing to do with it.

How much more proof do you want? He's done nothing!

whitedude:

You're absolutely right: when Obama is president, he should invest heavily in education--especially your school. It's "theirs", not "their's". No apostrophe is needed; "theirs" is already possessive. Wise up and get off your high horse.

"white folks better wake up. because african americans are taking back what is theres. just like george washington carver said, the inventor of the peanut, black people will never be free until we can live in the white house."

The first think Obama needs to do when he becomes president is to work on our education system. It should "their's" not "theres" and George Washington Carver didn't "invent" the peanut. He certainly researched it fully, but he didn't "invent" it.

Top GOP leaders should be charged with TREASON and impeached immediately. Republicans abandoned their principles, pissed on the Constitution and lied to take us to war. How UN-American. Traitors! Hope Bush & Co dont let the door hit them in the ass on their way out. Jan 2009 cant come quickly enough. I actually voted for them...and I feel so ashamed. Wont be fooled again...Obama = real change.

I can only imagine what will be left for President G.W. Bush to write about when he leaves office on January 20, 2009. Come to think of it, Jan. 20, 09 is not that far away. Thank heaven. I am getting tired of "Bush, Clinton, Bush ......."

I noticed that neither Rove nor Perino said McClellan's claims were false. Just the usual Rove spin.

Expect an epidemic of memory loss when these Bush bootlickers actually have to testify about how the Bush administration went seriously off the tracks.

Lakisha,

It is unfortunate, but true: Black people will never be free until they master the language of the oppressor. Anger is only an incentive. We need your thoughts, for sure, but, sadly, before America will respect them, you, you need to do the same homework that Obama has done.

Mark

all of you can EAT ME

Who's the next person to write a book about the President or the White House?? This is really getting pathetic already.

white folks better wake up. because african americans are taking back what is theres. just like george washington carver said, the inventor of the peanut, black people will never be free until we can live in the white house.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." ~ Abraham Lincoln

"Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." ~ NOT Abraham Lincoln

"6. Two years ago when Congress was taken over by Denocrats, the economy was much better and not in a recession and gas prices were around $2.00 a gallon. Is that a coincidence?"

Posted by: Stephen Jeffries | May 28, 2008 9:47 PM

I love this argument! The Republicans had absolute control over the United States government; the controlled the White House and BOTH houses of Congress for SEVEN YEARS . During this period, almost everything they touched turned to crap, because they were much more interested in consolidating their power, starting unnecessary wars and politicizing every aspect of government than they were in providing good government for the American people.

The Democrats have only been in control of Congress for about 18 MONTHS, (NOT two years), barely have a majority in the Senate and don't control the White House. They're in a virtual standoff with the Repugs.

Under these circumstances, these pinhead Republicans expect America to blame the Dems for not cleaning up the mess in 18 months that the Republicans spent 7 years creating!

I've got news for you, my friend. This November is going to make November of 2006 look like child's play. Don't take my word for it. Ask the Repug congressmen who got voted out of heretofore blood red Michigan 14, Louisiana 6 and Mississsippi 1.

OMG-You people just don't have a Clue do you?

Bushie was ORDERED by CONGRESS(The same Sorry rotten barrel of crud you have decided to have all three current contenders come from-Idiots and Fools!), to Take out Saddam HUSSEIN!

However, It is the FLAGRANT DERELICTION of his Duties to ENFORCE the Constitution in PROTECTION of the American People(Read; NOT IRAQI OR MEXICAN), that he is CRIMINAL Guilty of!

He SWORE an OATH to do so! He has allowed an INVASION, Price Fixing by Big Oil, and Allowed American Business Ventures to be ROBBED by "People"(Used VERY Loosely) like Chavez!

These, NOT the War, are not only the Faults of Bush, but the same Garbage we WILL get from Elected P'sOS from the US Congress!

Face it you IDIOTS! ALL of THEM have been in POWER! What? I mean WHAT? Have Juan McAmnesty, Billary, or Obasama done;

to Justify being given MORE Power?

Go to mittromney.com, READ his "Issues".

Unlike Barack Insane O'Bomba-Nation, HE does NOT need YOUR Info FIRST!

THAT, in a Nut-Shell, should send ANYONE with a Brain, RUNNING as far from Barack as they can! :-(

McClellan book is dynamite.. but the Iraq mission was accomplished.. The mission or Iraq was wasn't about WMDs, Democracy, not even oil... it was all about Israel and the NWO.
http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/is-modern-israel-in-bible-prophecy/
http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-new-world-order-religious-and-political-conspiracy/

Election update 2008: In a stunning upset of this year's Presidential election, the republican party has scored an overwhelming
victory in the state of Denial !!!

TO BRAIN SHRUNK2 I AM NOT AFRAID OF ISLAM. IT WILL NEVER GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS A LONG TIME UNTIL ELECTIONBS. THAT CLOSET MUSLIM HUSSEN OBAMA WILL BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS. MY PREDICTION-IS HE WILL NEVER WIN. I AGRREE 150% WITH JAKE. NUFF SAID.

TO BRAIN SHRUNK2 I AM NOT AFRAID OF ISLAM. IT WILL NEVER GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS A LONG TIME UNTIL ELECTIONBS. THAT CLOSET MUSLIM HUSSEN OBAMA WILL BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS. MY PREDICTION-IS HE WILL NEVER WIN. I AGRREE 150% WITH JAKE. NUFF SAID.

"The Washington Post" about a year and a half ago or so, had opinion articles written by a few historians about where each thought Bush would be ranked among presidents to date. I think there is a possibility Bush may barely make the top forty list of presidents during the first two hundred twenty years of our history. Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover and Warren Harding are strongly competing with Bush, among the likely bottom five presidents so far.

I find it amazing those who write such defaming rhetoric toward our leaders do not even have the nerve to actually sign their posts.

Let me say this to all of you:

1. President Bush did not steal an election in Florida. Every independant recount conducted, after the Supreme Court's ruling, proved Bush won the state of Florida.

2. President Bush did not lie to us about the war. He passed on bad information and may have not given due dilligence to that intelligence, but he did not willfully lie.

3. President Bush did not handle Hurricane Katrina correctly therefore many lives were lost. Period.

4. President Bush did not handle the War in Iraq very well therefore many lives were lost. However, since the troop surge there is progress.

5. Would there be any buzz or would there be as big of a payday if Scott McClellan wrote a book that glorified President Bush? I seriously doubt it. I am not going to judge McClellan's intentions, but I hope his conscious is clear at the end of the day.

6. Two years ago when Congress was taken over by Denocrats, the economy was much better and not in a recession and gas prices were around $2.00 a gallon. Is that a coincidence?

President Bush has made mistakes, but who was the last President who had to deal with an attack on our own soil; deal with a natural disaster that is considered one of the most devastating in history; fight tooth and nail against Congress to make sure the men and women serving our country abroad could get the food and supplies needed to live (let alone fight).

LENNY BEANS ISN'T THAT WHAT YOUR BRAINS ARE MADE OF------------OR IS IT BECAUSE TERE IS A GREAT VOID IN YOUR NOODLE.

The information in Scott McClellan's book is no big revelation. It only confirms what many already knew and others have already said. I appreciate Scott coming forward and don't agree with those who criticize him for not speaking up back then. Exactly how would he have done that?? Let's see, he could have done an interview, written an editorial, held a press conference, requested a Senate hearing, or what? None of those methods would have been effective in getting his entire story out. He has a lot to tell. Besides, the media has a track record for either yawning or ignoring everything foul thing this administration has done. I suspect Scott must have been pretty disillusioned when he left that job. I'm sure he went into it believing in what they were doing and felt used in the worse possible way by the time he left. I'm also sure he had to process everyting and then decide if he really wanted to put his neck on the chopping block by going up against this ruthless administration, not to mention the media who haven't exactly been kind. Cut the guy some slack and be thankful he's coming out now. You know his mother is a Democrat. She probably talked him into doing the right and patriotic thing-country before Party and truth before deceit. The only way this country can heal is for the truth to come out and for these crooks to be held accountable. Scott McClellan is only validating what many others have said, but coming from a former insider and loyalist, it carries more weight.

As usual, the liars are lying about who is lying.

If there hadn't been so much death and carnage, it would be amusing to watch them try to destroy each other.

But it isn't.

Billy Sanders, you seem frightened.

Islam will never "win".

American power is unrivaled.

But your President is a war criminal and a liar.

Can you understand this?

Now that the Bushies are in complete disarray and are busy spilling the beans about the last eight years, W's administration will stagger helplessly through the final months feebly denying what their ex shipmates (see pirate ship) are saying because only about 5% of the country believes anything anyone connected to W says, while they believe everything the tattletales relate.

Well, you bleeding heart liberal left wingers will vote you a "MESSIAH" in that will make a heaven for you to live in. You will be laying on a carpet looking toward Mecca to say your prayers.

How did The Fake News Corporation become the Bush "administration" propadanda outlet?

Even Katie Couric called BS on the way Rove, Bartlett,and Perino Dog Chow all parrotted the line, "This isn't the Scott we knew." WORD FOR WORD! Helen Thomas said it best a couple weeks ago regarding MSM: "Where were you guys?"

You're all a bunch of left wing bloggers!

"i love the implications that mcclellen is, somehow, mentally deranged. "Not the scott we know," and so on.

pretty sad when the only defense is to say "he's nuts." and "he was out of the loop."

The guys not nuts...he was told that the best way to make a buck was to bash Bush and Co...so he wrote a book bashing Bush and Co. The lemmings on the Left will happily pay $25 - $30 a copy to validate everything they always believed was true.

Hitler's Nazi's tried to create a new language, new truths, and new science. The Fascists of America have tried to do the same thing but it no longer works at all. Karl Rove, the former political adviser of thing Bush became the Goebbels of America by propagating the Big Lie,and repeating it over and over to make people believe it. r? The wrongies want us to still believe any lie they tell. We have stopped listening to their drivel and are forming opinions based in truth and most,if not all of the truth is coming from the progressive bloggers.

Rove, a commentator on Fox was banished from the White House for pushing the envelope of Republican politics beyond lawful executive behaviour. He had involvement in the unproven Valerie Plame outing conspiracy put forth by Fitzgerald in the Libby case. His truth squad reported to Hastert's right hand information about a perverted FL congressman. Only when the Dems outed him was action taken. Did I mention this was Rove's truth squad reporting. How many Willie Horton and Swift Boat ads against parapeligic war heroes do you need to see before you stop letting them prey on your prejudice. Mr. Hannity should have a discussion with his pastor Peterson about his New Orleans views. 32 Republican office holders left because of indictment or sexual behaviour problems, with a drunk driving two wife congressman, soon to follow. Rove tried to run the country, like his campaigns, only problem is we are a country of laws.

Hitler's Nazi's tried to create a new language, new truths, and new science. The Fascists of America have tried to do the same thing but it no longer works at all. Karl Rove, the former political adviser of thing Bush became the Goebbels of America by propagating the Big Lie,and repeating it over and over to make people believe it. Since when is truth portrayed as a left wing blogger? The wrongies want us to still believe any lie they tell. We have stopped listening to their drivel and are forming opinions based in truth and most, if not all of the truth is coming from the progressive bloggers.

I think everyone of you is crazy with hate and should be ashamed.

Karl Rove said, "First of all, this doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't."

It's true. Even Tucker Carlson said on MSNBC that McClellan is the only person in Washington who is less articulate than George Bush.

Who do you think Scotty's ghost writer was?

Posted by: Kevinole | May 28, 2008 6:05 PM

Tucker Carlson???

Are you for real?

The President's press secretary is paid to lie. Kudos for nailing Wedgie, Scott.

Why does Rove even bother replying? It's patently obvious that McClellan is telling the truth (finally) and that no one believes a word Rove says. Rove and the President have no credability whatsoever.

Scott McClellan is just a disgruntled liberal!

Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and Vice President Cheney lied about their role in revealing the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson - actions easily amounting to obstruction of Justice.

Impeach Cheney fist then Bush. Recall weak-sister Pelosi. Jail Karl Rove for contempt of Congress.

Rove and kind still believe they can escape any debate and duck any charges just by saying "Liberal". They know you can fool some of the people all of the time. If Scott actually said that Cheney could care less for the average person, the rest of the book is probably true too.

Scottie, I've always realized you were a liar protecting criminals. Always.

The whole neoconservative movement is a blight on the spiritual history of mankind, right up there with the Nazis.

I am positive this has never been the people's country in my lifetime.

Remember your outrage in November and vote Democrat!

If your candidate doesn't get nominated, it may hurt, but it won't hurt as badly as four to eight more years of incompetent, pig-headed and inexplicably arrogant neoconservative leadership.

Pursue Karl Rove until he is brought to justice.

Direct Democracy

The not-so-hidden story in this was in how the press was used as an accessory. From the glory days of Watergate to reprinting republican talking points. That in no way compares to the lives wasted in Iraq, but, if you consider that a free and independent and skeptical press is integral to our democracy, then each member of the media has to look into their souls and see the same immoral blackness that infected each member of the Bush disaster..

What's to discuss? Tell us something we don't already know.

There some other jaw-dropping quotations from the book that have yet to be reported!:

* "George W. Bush wouldn't have gotten to where he is if he hadn't had a famous father."
* "George W. was never a top-notch soldier."
* "Dana Perino? Not the sharpest knife in the drawer."
* "The well-being of the average American is not at the top of Dick Cheney's list of concerns."
* "It's quite possible that George W. Bush will not ultimately rank as one of the our top thirty presidents."
* "Despite what some people have said, President Bush did not want black people to die in New Orleans. However, he did hope they would not relocate to any areas of Texas that he likes to frequent."

More of the article here: http://www.236.com/news/2008/05/28/mcclellan_shocker_more_revelat_6791.php

"'First of all, this doesn't sound like Scott...' Rove said. 'Not the Scott I've known. Second of all, it sounds like somebody else... Second of all, you're right. If he had these moral qualms, he should have spoken up about them.'

Ninth of all, a press secretary DOES NOT keep his job by bringing up qualms, moral or otherwise [I hate to say it, but Rove is too smart to believe otherwise for a second]. He must have been caught completely flat-footed to be fumbling this badly; maybe it's all the subpoenas. Ninth of all, I hope Rove and all the rest of these mendacious eels cry themselves to sleep each night because they can never wash off all of the blood.

Seriously...
WHO, in their right mind, would
believe Anything ROVE says?

I know he's got a brilliant political
mind...and he's very smart.
But he's also a pathological liar.

If ROVE says one thing, that's pretty
good evidence that the truth is
something else.

I'd list all of the examples...but
I don't have that many bytes.

WHY you would quote him is puzzling.

I can't wait to read it! I think this is absolutely hilarious! Look at Rove, once described "Architect" and visionary of a permanent conservative majority, now reduced to a whiny, constantly-defensive FOX pundit. Why anyone STILL would take him seriously is beyond reasonable thought at this point. Or more likely, points to ego-insecurity issues.

Some points for the "loyal Bushies":

1. The war and its rationale failed,
2. The economy is in complete and very scary disarray,
3. Islamic jihadism shows no sign of decreasing
4. Oil prices are rising
5. Even the Pentagon now is integrating global warming models into their own.
6. And now we have the former press secretary explaining how deceitful, oblivious, arrogant, and frankly moronic our Republican leaders truly are.

I am very tired of hearing from government
officials who suddenly gain courage,integrity,and religion after they have been willing participants in major debacles and cover up activity. This is really outrageous when you consider that over 4,000 young men and women died because these people lacked the will to do the right thing when it counted. If they thought it was so wrong, why not just disengage from the process? More importantly, anyone who was a participant in the Iraq policy who is now writing a tell all book about the deception should be criminally prosecuted.

You people keep forgeting that this is America! We do what our bosses tells us to do or we're out of a job. This is true for Scott, Bush, the press and everybody else in America.
What it comes down to is this: If you own, you make the decisions. You're the boss. The more you own, the bigger the decisions you make. The wealthiest people are making the biggest decisions. Not the prez. Not congress. And certainly not you!

These Born Again Coward Killers are learning while putting other people's lives on the line and wasting Trillions of taxpayers funds fighting illegal wars. Someone needs to have some courage and Indict these War Criminal Killers.

Yeah, this whole administration can come clean now, and point at everyone else.

Fact is, they're all lying criminals.

THIS is why I didn't care if Clinton got blown in the White House.
Because, there is serious stuff to be lying about... including war.

McClellan should have busted the administration long ago, but was probably under contract to lie.

Still, could have saved us a LOT of money, lives (both Iraqi and American), credibility, and maybe even the Republican Brand, which is now closely tied to liars and bullies.

So, in the whole of Federal Government, no one had the guts, nor the love of Country, to call their boss on this BS.

Shameful. And the Parroting media, too.

Indict the War Criminals!!! Send the White House Killers to face the International Criminal Court for War Crimes! Oil prices will drop once these Big Oil Morons are out of DC.
http://untreaty.un.org/cod/icc/statute/romefra.htm

Put Big Oil and the Lobbyists in Charge and the American Public will pay for it. Don't allow the BORN AGAIN HYPOCRITE IDIOT FRAUDS vote ever again. Why is the VP of Torture is hiding behind Executive Privilege regarding the Secret 2001 Energy Task Force Talks with Big Oil??? What are they hiding from the American People? It certainly has done wonders for Big Oil since those Secret Talks.

Misson Accomplished campaigned against Nation Building, then the Killer destroys a couple of nations and will spend Trillions to rebuild them better than anything in our own America. The Born Again Idiot Frauds that put this Murderer in office should never be allowed to vote again.

Friday, February 29, 2008
Economist: War to cost $3.5 trillion
Nobel economist tells Congress about impact of war that White House said would cost $60B.
Bob Deans / Cox News Service
WASHINGTON -- The Iraq war will cost Americans between $3 trillion and $5 trillion, including military spending, broader economic costs and decades of benefits and medical care for combat veterans, a Nobel prize-winning economist told the Joint Economic Committee on Thursday.
The upper end of the estimate is nearly double what the same economist, Joseph Stiglitz, projected two years ago. He attributed the dramatic increase to the continuing intensity of the war, which began five years ago next month, and the likelihood that operations there would continue for at least another year.
The war's gravest toll has been paid in blood. Fighting in Iraq has so far taken the lives of 3,973 U.S. troops and left nearly 29,300 wounded. Its staggering expense, however, has dwarfed the 2003 White House war estimate of $60 billion, and the price is rising.

"America is a rich country," said Stiglitz, a Columbia University professor and former World Bank chief economist.
"The question is not whether we can afford to squander $3 trillion or $5 trillion," he told committee members. "We can. But our strength will be sapped. ... There is no such thing as a free war."
Taxpayers have spent $607 billion to pay for the war through September, according to the staff of the Joint Economic Committee, made up of Republicans and Democrats from both houses of Congress.
The true cost to date, though, is $1.3 trillion, the committee staff estimates, when taking into account the costs of caring for wounded soldiers, replacing equipment lost or destroyed, the economic impact of disrupted oil markets and lost work time for reservists and other expenses.
In a report published last November, the committee estimated that the war would cost Americans between $3.5 trillion and $4.5 trillion by 2017.

50 million+ Ignorant Idiots put this Born Again Killer Moron in Charge. The Born Again Idiots should not be allowed to vote again.
$4-a-gallon gas? Predictions surprise Bush

Exxon Mobil posts $40.6 billion profit, Oil giant breaks record for largest annual profit by a U.S. company

'Coming out' with this perspective while still in the admin would have been much more useful and obviously, heroic. Now, there is a profit motive in 'speaking the truth'; to be honest, I'd have more respect for the guy if he had just played out the role of team player and stayed mum.

Besides, tell us something we didn't already know about the President.

I was struck by the reaction of Bush aides. Their words ("... this doesn't sound like Scott." -- Karl Rove; "It is sad -- this is not the Scott we knew." -- Dana Perino) reminded me of folks describing a quiet neighbor -- after that neighbor has committed some heinous crime. Are they suggesting McClellan should seek the insanity defense?
From Read Street http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/books/blog/

Gary Woodward and Bob Denton authored a classic college textbook called Persuasion & Influence in American Life. I think it's in its fifth or sixth edition now. You can buy it on amazon.com, I expect. Explains -everything- in nifty detail. Nothing Ray-Gun, Slick Willie, Konsiderable Karl or any of the rest of them say or do would be any mystery to anyone after reading Woodward and Denton.

Karl Rove said, "First of all, this doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't."

It's true. Even Tucker Carlson said on MSNBC that McClellan is the only person in Washington who is less articulate than George Bush.

Who do you think Scotty's ghost writer was?

Dear George and Karl,
We don't care what you think.
Signed,
67% of the American people.

What a farce. Scotty-boy gets religion just in time to cash in at the peak of the market for political scandal books.

The Bush administration disputes the book's contents? I did not realize anyone in the administration could read.

"First of all, this doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't," Rove said. "Not the Scott McClellan I've known for a long time. Second of all, it sounds like somebody else. It sounds like a left-wing blogger."
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Mr. Rove,

Do you think that anyone who thinks you're tearing apart our country is somehow brainwashed? Haven't you noticed that the American public and even prominent GOP Congressmen and NRCC advisors are sounding the alarm regarding your catastrophic policies and the devious ways you have sold them?

The way things are going, the whole country will be comprised of

* you and whoever is left of the White House political team on one side, and
* millions upon millions of "left-wing bloggers" on the other.

Those people who say, well, at least we haven't had another attack on American soil killing 3,000 people since the first one that Bush ignored all warning signs about are truly amusing. What do they think Osama bin Laden is? The man must have pondered why he escaped so easily from Tora Bora, as though he were being invited to. And, after all, it might have made our Saudi allies so sad if we killed one of their best and brightest. So we didn't. And, after a couple of months went by, OBL could see very clearly what the tacit deal was. He got to be the bogeyman for Bush, as long as he didn't try attacking on the American soil again. Thus, he could attack in Morocco, Spain, Bali or London, and it was like Bush n Obl synergy - Bush got his scared moron crowd, and OBL got his rep strengthened for what he did - defeat the Americans. And defeat them he has - how much is it, two trillion dollars now to try to defeat a guy who is spending, max, 10 million per year? To get into this situation, the morons had to elect their ideal moron, a man who exemplified the stupidity, laziness and incompetence that is so honored in GOP circles. Bush was perfect for the part. The tough talk, the hollow action, the blaming of others, and most of all, leaving a shambles and debts for the next decade behind him. And of course I imagine OBL is going to be setting up camp in Afghanistan after Bush is gone, since the Bushies, pulling out troops for the criminal war in Iraq, basically left Afghanistan to the mercies of the Taliban and our other "ally", Pakistan, which set up the Taliban in the first place.
I'd like to see detente and peace in the Middle East, but if I didn't, I'd be appalled at the criminal negligence of this president. That is, if I were a sensible hawk. But being a hawk nowadays means being among the self-lobotomized. It is like a ghost dance cult, where you just believe something hard enough and it will magically protect you. Didn't work for the desperate Sioux nation, and it certainly isn't going to work for the nation of morons in Bush's America.

Cindi LaFontaine wrote:
"...Everyone who gets fired from a fast food place tries to claim their boss spits in the hamburgers and urinates in the ice tea."

Yeah, but what if they really do?

I eat ass

How convenient to discover one's morality after you leave the White House. It's time for all the false Patriots to drink the Kool-Aid. Morality in not something you find laying about your desk while writing your memoir! Cowardly would be a more fitting description for those who hold loyalty to the "leader" above their country! It's time to JAIL some people for TREASON.

When a problem is ignored long enough it becomes a crisis. Wake up y'all.

Cindi,

I know, Scott and all these retired Generals should just keep their mouths shut and let this country go down like the Roman Empire! Speaking as a current active duty member (17 plus years) who has served two tours in Iraq and will more than likely go back there again before I can finally retire, it is nice to see someone speak the truth. You are going to see a lot more people do the same in another year or so....

If he would have voiced his concerns during his tenure, he'd never been heard from again. Not only is the monkey face "W" (and Chaney), a moron, crook, idiot, and liar, but he'd stop at nada to force his opinions, his propaganda, and policies on us all. I served under the first Bush, but if this one would have asked me to go to the Gulf, I'd rather wizz on the front steps of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Hey tbone4235,

Do we need to get your clown suit for the next photo shoot with the rest of the band?
(ICP) Insane Clown Posse !

What an idiot you are ! So do you still beleive the WMD's are real? Getta Clue you moron and think for yourself!

This is the real (ICP) Insane Clown Posse !
only the band has better common sense.

We need a revolution !

We should admire only one person Gen. POWELL

Shame

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer

I suggest that Mr. Rove and Mrs. Perino both read Power Failure: The Inside Story of the Collapse of Enron to find answers as to why McClellan didn't speak out in the face of pressure from the White House Mafia. It's called blind loyalty and group think.

So, because he didn't resign at the time invalidates the truth? Here is one American hoping that other brave souls speak out. General Powell? Anyone?

Now all that's missing is the clown suit.

A disgruntled ex-employee makes up lies about the former boss who fired him...why is this garbage even being discussed. Everyone who gets fired from a fast food place tries to claim their boss spits in the hamburgers and urinates in the ice tea.

Nuremburg defense, Scott?

You were only following orders and "didn't know" they were false?

Nice.

This is what Republicans do with the taxes we pay. Make a complete mockery of our government, our country, our selves to the world.

We don't need books by Clarke and McClellan to tell us about the den of liars that have been in Washington the past eight years!
(That goes especially for the ones who slinked out the back door after the War in Iraq started)

And this is supposed to be news? The great majority know now what was quite obvious soon after 9/11. The funny part is Rove still thinks he can author any "truth" he wants, and thinks it will be believed. What an embarrasing 8 years!

Rika,

The Justice Department IS, in fact, part of the Executive Branch. It is headed by the Attorney General and runs the FBI and other agencies.

The Judicial Branch is our court system. The Supreme Court tops the food chain there.

It's all making sense now, how Dana Perino sleeps at night. She's 'out of the loop'.

Sorry, forgot to put my name on the post to Lenny Beans

Lenny Beans, your play on words only serves to illustrate how ignorant you yourself must be; for example, it isn't just white killing blacks automatically equals racism, it's that whites killing blacks while ranting how he/she hates
ni*%as and scrawling "KKK" at the scene just might have a hint of racism. Your rantings illustrate your "poor me" mentality that seems to be catching like a disease among white males who fear that the day is coming when they no longer have carte blanche to do as they will, when they like, to whomever they like. Sorry for you....

Quote:

Mark(?):

They never said the Executive branch wasn't involved -- FYI: the Dept. of Justice is PART OF the Executive branch -- seriously, if you have something "on topic" let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | May 28, 2008 2:16 PM

Uh, Jake .... last time I checked the Constitution, the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT (a/k/a JUDICIARY) is a SEPARATE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.

No wonder you're confused. By the way, my dad fought in Korea too. He used to be a staunch conservative. He came around too. There may be hope for you yet.

Rickey,
You may be on to something. Perhaps McClellan knows a day of reckoning is coming, and his book is his way of trying to avoid jailtime.

War is Peace.
Slavery is Freedom.
Ignorance is Strength.

Rove is claiming that McClellan was "out of the loop"?

He was the PRESS SECRETARY. His JOB was to know what was going on so he could answer reporters' questions.

Rove is saying that Bush kept his OWN PRESS SECRETARY "out of the loop"?

That sort of proves McClellan's claims - doesn't it?

McClellan was out of the loop???? LOL
Right....the presidents spokesperson was left in the dark on the issues he took EVERY DAY to the press.

Sorry Karl. You are a criminal who conspired with Libby to deceive a grand jury in a case that constituted treason. The only real question left is why are FOX and Newsweek employing a traitor? Why aren't you in prison already?

My fondest wish in life is to have a larry Craig bobblefoot doll on the back of my toilet.

I don't know if I'm alone thinking this, but McClellan does sound like someone trying to make sen