The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Sometimes reading these blogs make me feel as if I am wasting my time. Most of these entries are of an angry nature and it is like watching elementary students in a playground slinging mud at each other. What I would like to see from my fellow Americans are well thought out arguments for why you would like to see a certain person in office, or why you think someone would not be a good choice. I would like to see people communicating with each other on an educated level and respecting that this country is made up of many different people who hold many different views and opinions. That is what makes this country great. What makes me ashamed is that instead of hearing these different viewpoints all I hear is hatred and name-calling. Here we are in a country which allows us to vote and speak our opinion let us use this right which has been fought for and died for in a way that gives respect for the freedom that it is. So without further preaching I will give this my best shot.
I am a democrat, I have personal reasons for this, which I will not go into, but I will not be voting for McCain in the fall no matter what. That being said, he is better then Bush...anyone is better then Bush. I feel this way because in comparison McCain speaks well, has a long track record of getting things done, cares about the environment a little bit more, and has worked with democrats to come to common solutions.
So now we get to meat of the problem, Clinton or Obama. For a long time I did not know who to side with. I felt that they were both incredibly strong candidates and I was excited for the Democratic party that we had such amazing choices to choose from. I went to my local caucus hoping to be persuaded to vote for a side. I went in with an open mind. While Obama had overwhelming majority at my local caucus with young and vibrant supporters I was looking for real concrete arguments for why I should vote one way or the other and the only argument they had was that he was going to bring change, and that he was such an amazing person. Clinton supporters at first were similar in their arguments, but then they got down to business and actually gave me what I wanted to hear. What she would do in office and why I should vote for her. Needless to say I voted for Clinton at the caucus, based upon what Obama and Clinton followers had to say. However, I was disappointed that there was not more easily accessed information available for me to listen to, and I was sorry that I had to base my decision at the time on strangers. Going into it I thought that more people would be undecided like me and that the process was to help bring about educated decisions, but I was wrong, almost everyone had already made a decision based on what seemed like personality and flare.
What really riles me up and gets my blood boiling is when Democrats go at Clinton or Obama with pitchforks and fire, spewing reasons to hate one or the other. Hello! We are on the same side. Ultimately there viewpoints are very similar and I think that they both have the strength and courage to make amazing things happen once they have made it into office. I don't regret voting for Clinton, I feel that her skeletons are revealed, that she has the experience, she has shown that she can make it though anything and that she will fight for what needs to be done. She is a strong woman, which does not mean that she is a femNazi. It is like whenever there is a woman who shows strength in this world she is batted down and told she is a femNazi just for doing what men do all the time, that drives me nuts. I have read much of what people have wrote in this blog and many times people have repeatedly asked for..."What has Hillary Actually Done?" Well, here it is folks...
- When she was first lady she through her energy into the Clinton health care plan. This was a comprehensive proposal that would require employers to provide health coverage to their employees through individual health maintenance organizations.
- Along with Senators Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch, she was a force behind passage of the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997. This was a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage, and conducted outreach efforts on behalf of enrolling children in the program once it became law. She has continued this work as a senator from New York.
- As a senator from New York she forged alliances with religiously inclined senators by becoming a regular participant in the Senate Prayer Breakfast, led by Douglas Coe of The Fellowship...which is important as we all know you got to have strong relationship with people in order to get things done, even those with different opinions to yours. I'm not saying she is not religious, but I'm sure there were many Republicans there.
- Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001-2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003)(first New Yorker ever), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001), Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging. She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001).
- Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment.
- She also took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.
- While she first supported the war in Afghanistan and Iraq along with the great majority of senators in order to protect us from terrorism (something I personally disagreed with at the time), she did vote for the Byrd Amendment to the Resolution, which would have limited the Congressional authorization to stay in Iraq to one year increments. She has since been a critic of this war.
- She also visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to find out what issues are important to them. As a response to this she passed legislation to track the health status of our troops so that conditions like Gulf War Syndrome would no longer be misdiagnosed. She is also an original sponsor of legislation that expanded health benefits to members of the National Guard and Reserves.
- Senator Clinton voted against President Bush's two major tax cut packages, the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
- Clinton voted against both the 2005 confirmation of John G. Roberts as Chief Justice of the United States and the 2006 confirmation of Samuel Alito to the United States Supreme Court.
- In July 2004 and June 2006, Clinton voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment that sought to prohibit same-sex marriage.
- Looking to establish a "progressive infrastructure" to rival that of American conservatism, Clinton played a formative role in conversations that led to the 2003 founding of former Clinton administration chief of staff John Podesta's Center for American Progress; shared aides with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, founded in 2003; advised and nurtured the Clintons' former antagonist David Brock's Media Matters for America, created in 2004; and following the 2004 Senate elections, successfully pushed new Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid to create a Senate war room to handle daily political messaging.
- In her second term of office she opposed the Iraq War troop surge of 2007 and supported a February 2007 non-binding Senate resolution against it. In March 2007 she voted in favor of a war spending bill that required President Bush to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq within a certain deadline.
- Clinton cast a number of votes in support of the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007. The bill was portrayed as a compromise between legalization of illegal immigrants and increased border enforcement.
Ok, so hopefully that answers some of your questions about what Hillary has done in office. While some may argue that she has not accomplished things that are concrete, she has defiantly not sat around doing nothing. She has been fighting the good fight, and that takes time in politics. I think she has done pretty well. No one can say the woman can't fight!
Then of course there is the argument that she will work well with Republicans, and win many of on-the-post voters and have a chance in the national election. While this argument is arguable, just look at this blog as an example. There is not one that says I will vote McCain over Hillary, but many saying they will vote McCain over Obama (Unfortunately). While I hope this will not happen, it is something we should prepare for.
With that, let us not forget the good senator from Illinois, Barack Obama. What has he done while in office? Good question, let's line him up and compare.
- Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
- Obama took an active role in the Senate's drive for improved border security and immigration reform. In 2005, he cosponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act." He later added three amendments to the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act."
- Partnering with Republican Senators Richard Lugar of Indiana and then Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama successfully introduced two initiatives. One to expand a cooperative that calls to secure and dismantle weapons of mass destruction in order to include shoulder-fired missiles and anti-personnel mines. The other to requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
- Obama sponsored legislation requiring a local nuclear plant to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks.
- in December 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.
- Obama worked with Democrat Russ Feingold of Wisconsin to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act."
- Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007," a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.
- Obama sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.
- Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006. He is also on the committee for Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.

The man can seriously get stuff done...see why I had such a hard time making my decision!!

(while I put down acts and laws that both senators have backed, many of them did not actually come to fruition, but it is important to know what they are fighting for.)

With that, I must end this argument saying, yes, every candidate has skeletons in there closet, and while we should take those into account, we should not let them blind us to what these great senators have actually done with their lives and what they intend to do when they become president. Before you are so quick to judge, look at your own life, I'm sure you're no angel, and if you are, you won't judge too harshly, because angels don't...do they...they leave that to someone else. If you are a democrat, consider yourself lucky that you have two wonderful candidates that will do amazing things in office if their resumes are anything to go by. Get behind whom ever wins and Vote Democrat in November. For now use this opportunity to do what you think is right and enjoy that privilege. Just think...either candidate will be a first of their kind...how awesome is that!

I simply can not understand how it is possible to have been $20 Million in debt and still fly around in jet planes, have limousines and buses, stay in fancy hotels, make telephone calls, buy advertising and continue the campaign until you go $10 Million more into debt? And how do you keep spending after that? Can someone explain that to me? Is Hillary printing her own money already?

Enclosed is a copy of an email that I received. I can't vouch for the authenticity of this information, but if true, it would be very upsetting to think that Michelle Obama would be the First Lady of this country.

In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that whites in America were "ineradicably racist". The 1985 thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to "Whites at Princeton , it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first..." However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, "If those "Whites at Princeton " really saw Michelle as one who always would "be Black first," it seems that she gave them that impression".
Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms "separationist" and "integrationist" when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a "separationist" view of race.
"By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant."
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. "
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
"Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments."
The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.
Michelle Obama's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skin. "I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility."
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire? Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted with one another.

The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and world view seen through a race-based prism.
This is a very divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama administration.
Michelle Obama's intellectually refined racism should give all Americans pause for deep concern.

Now maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to grind with America . Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will. But it shouldn't.
FYI:
I am definitely sick of the main stream media (MSM) feeding us all this crap about Obama being an agent of change.
Has anyone stopped to think what kind of change; really?
PS: We paid for her scholarship.

How in the world can the DNC expect that Hillary supporters will vote for Obama? They have bent the rules for Obama. It is clear that a person that removes their name from the ballot should not receive a delegate. Then people are 1/2 a vote, geeze. How easily they forgot about what happened in 2000.

I hope Hillary takes this right to Denver. I say the heck with the DNC. The democrats are no better than the repulicans. At least, McCain fought for his country. Obama just sits in a church that teaches hate. I will not give Obama a free pass. I will never ever vote for Obama. I sure will vote against him.

"Still waiting"

For Hillary-heads to explain the sniper fire whopper.

Or for Hillary-heads to explain away Hillary's assassination squad that slimed Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky, and Juanita Broaddrick - any woman who DARED to expose BubbaZipper's sexual predations.

The Clintons are felons. Thank gawd the country is spared another Billary infestation of the White House.

Still waiting for ANY VERIFIABLE LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT FOR SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON

ANYONE? ANYONE?

HOW DO YOU SUPPORT AND TOUT SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE WITHOUT ONE SINGLE VERIFIABLE LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT?

CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, MUCH?

Hillary has, what, 20-30 years in politics? She has staying power and I give her that. But for christ sakes, she been trying to pass this Universal Healthcare (her baby) for 14 years, maybe longer. But that's that. Her and her husband are power hungry. And they will and have said anything to maintain power. Why for all sake are the working class so behind her and not Obama. His whole upbringing relates to the working class. Not to mention his years as a street level organizer particularly for the disenfranchised, poverished, and working class. I don't care how low or high you are on the economic scale. We all have some controversy in our closets. You have your rascist pastors; you have your pedophile priests; and you have your pimp pastors, etc.. What politician in Washington that matters hasn't attended a congregation whose pastor or priest hasn't any hidden agenda's that are appalling. Obama is the right candidate for President because he is genuine, smart; has enough experience and is fresh in Washington. And the old politics has to come to an end. Whether you like it or not the world is flat and smaller due to technology and the world opinion and view of our political system and country does matter. McCain as President would be a dramatic setback. War with Iran would be imminent. The economy would be further devastated. The pressures that are put on Bush Dubya would kill McCain. VOTE OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Money Grip | June 2, 2008 9:36 PM

You are giving Clinton way too much credit saying she has been 'trying to pass universal health care'for years. I'm a New Yorker and she has just been taking up space in the Senate for 8 years. She had a perfect position to pass legislation. If she didn't even attempt it, why would anyone be foolish enough to believe it is something she really wants/is fighting for?

The President can't wave a magic wand and pass universal health care. It has to pass through Congress. WHY HAS HILLARY DONE NOTHING ON THIS FRONT FOR EIGHT YEARS!

WHY DOES SHE CLAIM SENATOR KENNEDY'S HEALTH CARE LAW AS HER OWN?

"We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate."

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 9:47 PM

And I thought Hillary was exaggerating when she called her supporters idiots! Go figure. This is the ONE thing Senator Clinton speaks the truth about!

"We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate."

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

"We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate."

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

"We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate."

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 9:26 PM

Earth to FREAKTARD, the winning candidate will be the nominee: OBAMA

Posted by: CLANG | June 2, 2008 9:30 PM

Since is the intellectual level of Clinton supporters, I guess it's pretty clear why she lost.

Posted by: ROTFLMAOTOO | June 2, 2008 9:36 PM

Sorry, I was laughing so hard I created a typo. Meant to say:

Since this is the intellectual level of Clinton supporters, I guess it's pretty clear why she lost.

If the very first argrument on this blog was true, then you could say the very same thing for Primary votes in washington that did not count. disinfranchise voters in the state of washington has been upset for sometime now because the votes casted for Hillary Clinton did not count. The caucauses were a joke to say the least, From my district alone, only 12 people showed up and 10 of them were voting for Barrack Obama. I talked to tons of people that casted mail in votes for Hillary that could not show up for caucauses for one reason or the other. I know for a fact that if you were a mail carrier that did not have that day off, you just didn't get to vote at all. My point is i don't think the votes should count out of caucaus events. It should remain the confused pledge delegate count that it is. Enough of this oneside election syestem for me. I will venture other avenues for my future party affilliation.

Hillary has, what, 20-30 years in politics? She has staying power and I give her that. But for christ sakes, she been trying to pass this Universal Healthcare (her baby) for 14 years, maybe longer. But that's that. Her and her husband are power hungry. And they will and have said anything to maintain power. Why for all sake are the working class so behind her and not Obama. His whole upbringing relates to the working class. Not to mention his years as a street level organizer particularly for the disenfranchised, poverished, and working class. I don't care how low or high you are on the economic scale. We all have some controversy in our closets. You have your rascist pastors; you have your pedophile priests; and you have your pimp pastors, etc.. What politician in Washington that matters hasn't attended a congregation whose pastor or priest hasn't any hidden agenda's that are appalling. Obama is the right candidate for President because he is genuine, smart; has enough experience and is fresh in Washington. And the old politics has to come to an end. Whether you like it or not the world is flat and smaller due to technology and the world opinion and view of our political system and country does matter. McCain as President would be a dramatic setback. War with Iran would be imminent. The economy would be further devastated. The pressures that are put on Bush Dubya would kill McCain. VOTE OBAMA!!!

"We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate."

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 9:26 PM

Earth to FREAKTARD, the winning candidate will be the nominee: OBAMA

Posted by: CLANG | June 2, 2008 9:30 PM

Since is the intellectual level of Clinton supporters, I guess it's pretty clear why she lost.

DON'T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!

IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn't it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children's suffering.

With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.

The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton's do very well.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party's back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."

Let's make some predictions:

June: A few days after Montana and South Dakota, Obama receives enough endorsements. Hillary Clinton acknowledges defeat, then takes a summer vacation.

July: Obama picks Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius as his running mate. McCain picks Florida Governor Charlie Christ.

August: Incidents at the Democratic Convention as Michigan and Florida protest their 1/2 vote.

September: Obama withdraws from the race as more details are revealed about his links to Wright, Pfleger, Rezko, Farrakhan, and others.

October: McCain dies of old age.

November: Republicans win in landslide.

Still waiting for ANY VERIFIABLE LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT FOR SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON

ANYONE? ANYONE?

HOW DO YOU SUPPORT AND TOUT SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE WITHOUT ONE SINGLE VERIFIABLE LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT?

CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, MUCH?

We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate.

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 9:26 PM

Earth to FREAKTARD, the winning candidate will be the nominee: OBAMA

We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate.

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

THE WINNING CANDIDATE IS THE NOMINEE:
BARACK OBAMA

WHAT A NUTZO!!

Senator Clinton,

I understand that you have a strong feeling that you are the candidate best suited to lead the US for the next 4/8 years. I also understand your desire to ensure that every vote is counted. There are a few things I do not understand.

If every vote should count, why are you saying you lead in the popular vote? This discounts states that use the caucus format to set delegate apportion, which could lead to voter disenfranchisement in those states. It also includes 2 states that you yourself claimed should be punished for moving up their primaries..

If all votes are equal, why do you claim that some states are more important than others? Again, this lends itself towards voter disenfranchisement. Why should my home state of Washington be less important than Iowa?

Frankly, I'm quite unhappy with the fact that you've equated the struggle for suffrage waged by women and African Americans over the last century. In aligning your change in position with a struggle for basic American rights, you demean what those rights stand for, and those that struggled to achieve those rights.

Please, Senator Clinton.. Please do not continue to make this misleading and erroneous argument that your lead in the popular vote, that your victories in specific states, that your need for the delegates of Florida and Michigan.. Please don't let these arguments drag down the nation. You knew the rules at the beginning, please don't let desperation and fear of losing derail what this country needs right now - a united voice.

I'm sorry, Senator Clinton, but you are not going to get the nomination. Your continued fight shows that you are not one to back down. It shows tenacity, it shows strength in the face of nearly insurmountable odds. It shows that the end of your political career may be drawing near.

Yes, people have come to you and asked you to remain in the race. I would like to see you continue until the primaries are completed, and every vote is cast. Once the votes are counted as per the rules of the election season and the party, we need you to abide by those results.

If you cannot lose with grace and respect for the rules laid out by your party of choice, you will show the side of politics, and the side of yourself, that truly has been your undoing. Placing self over service is a quality that you share with the current administration, and it's one that needs to be removed from politics and politicians.

Your impending loss and the handling of that loss is exactly WHY you are going to lose. Sadly, the Clinton name has become synonymous with divisiveness and anger. Your ability, and the ability of your husband, to foster anger in so many of those that call themselves Republicans is amazing. Granted, I believe that much of it is unfair criticism, but the lack of fairness doesn't eliminate its existence. I know a lot of people that reply to criticisms of the current administration with "But Clinton..." Yes, unfair.. but it is there.

Senator Clinton, when you lose - and you will lose - please do so with the class and dignity befitting one of the truly pioneering civil servants of your generation.

Thanks.

It's up to you, to decide, Democrats.

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

DELUSIONAL ONE, DEMOCRATS HAVE DECIDED

BARACK OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE

sorry folks we will not vote for OBAMA come november, out first choice is HILLARY,she is best fit for the job for this country and the world.

It's up to you, to decide, Democrats.

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 9:18 PM

DELUSIONAL ONE, DEMOCRATS HAVE DECIDED

BARACK OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE

If Obama is so weak, why is he winning?

If Clinton is so much better a leader, how did her organization get so out organized by the opposition?

The consolation prize to Obama being made the nominee is that we Democrats have the most power to stop him from becoming the president.

We can let the DNC know that we're tired of their ridiculous rules that can't nominate a winning candidate.

We can let them know that we disapprove of their tacit acceptance of sexism, misogyny and racism.

We can do this simply by changing our voter registration and also by not voting for Obama. There are plenty of other candidates to vote for in November apart from McCain.

If your state's rules allow it, and most of them do, write Hillary Clinton's name in.

Or, sit back, do nothing, vote a straight Democratic ticket by reflex and agree with your party that you don't matter.

It's up to you, to decide, Democrats.

Replying to the question why Clinton supporters would not back Obama over McCain-
I will not vote for Obama, ever. As far as I am concerned, Hillary was the best candidate. McCain is the second best candidate. I do not trust Obama. I don't know what he stands for because I don't believe anything he says. I think he is insincerity itself and has been packaged and advertised into a big name brand, but I actually think he is the emperor with no clothes (or worse, a serious wolf in sheep's clothing). He co-opted Hillary's policies; he doesn't have his own. Further, he is either frighteningly naive or seriously dishonest. I don't think he can deliver half what he promises. I don't know whether he even intends to deliver any of it. I think he is a total fake, a superficial candidate who employs the word notion ad nauseum to try to sound "folksy" and that he has been sold to the American public like a new brand of peanut butter. He may be a talented speaker if you like that overly dramatic, redundant, exhortational style, but he isn't a legitimate candidate. He has shown his stripes by his associations, and his opportunistic severing of ties to people like Rev. Wright even though he clearly had no issues with him until he became a political liability. He calls women "sweetie". His wife comes across as a rabblerousing racist. He used the issue of his stance against the wear to pillory Hillary, but if you really think about the way that transpired, he is the questionable one. She voted in favor based on false intelligence that was distributed by the White House. She and everyone else was essentially tricked. He on the otehr hand, had no reason to believe the intelligence was faulty so must have believed it true. And if he believed it true and opposed the war, then he is a scary person who should not be president of the United States, becasue if it HAD been true, then it would have made sense. I think he ascended to his current position by playing on race to advance himself and intimidate his opponents, that he profited because many people don't like the Clintons. Absent either of those ingredients, I don't think he'd be off first base.
At least I believe I trust McCain, even though I don't agree with his policies. I would take a Republican I trust over a Democrat I don't trust. It's that simple.

Are you suggesting that only republicans can really vet Obama? Why hasn't Hillary? Are you suggesting she's gone easy on him? Why? Doesn't she really want the nomination?

Second, the idea that the Clinton Foundation should abandon Africa because she doesn't get the nomination is one of the most childish, vindictive suggestions I've ever heard. Right up there with, "I'm voting McCain" or "I'm leaving the country!"
Why not just stick out your tongue, say "I'm taking my ball and going home!" and leave it at that.

Hey!! mellowyellow. thats why we have secret ballots in this country. Maybe your family is smarter than you and don't really want an extension of Bush/Cheney in Washington. You will never know how they voted once they get behind that screen. Be a Bush lover and vote McCain and while you'r at it why don't you hit yourself in the head with a hammer just to see how that feels.

So, it's not just women supporters of Hillary's who won't vote for Obama in the general election, it's their whole dang family ain't gonna vote for someone who hasn't paid his dues. Charlatan.

Posted by: Go Clinton | June 2, 2008 9:04 PM

I'd love to hear what Hillary Clinton has done for America.

Any SINGLE legislative achievement of Hillary Clinton ANYONE?

One single legislative achievement of the EXPERIENCED Hillary Clinton?

Or are you just ZOMBIES?

Dear Lynn,

I don't understand you. Conspiring to destroy a Democratic candidate because you are disappointed is beneath you. It is Bushian.

Conspiring to contribute to 8 more years of a destructive force in the White House because you didn't get your way is worse than acting like a two year old. It is Rovian.

Contributing to the fallacy that Obama can't win because you don't want him to and nothing will change your mind is Hitlerian.

Please, come to your senses before you, personally, commit your soul to hell for all time. See a psychiatrist. Confess your sins to your priest. Heal yourself.

I will be praying for you,

Signed, a middle aged, white female Democratic voter.

Hey!! mellowyellow. thats why we have secret ballots in this country. Maybe your family is smarter than you and don't really want an extension of Bush/Cheney in Washington. You will never know how they voted once they get behind that screen. Be a Bush lover and vote McCain and while you'r at it why don't you hit yourself in the head with a hammer just to see how that feels.

People of any observance here and in other forums can see the world only in binary fashion. Either 100% Obama, 0% Clinton and vice versa. It is really tiresome to read people who see the world in such a stereotypical fashion; I was hoping that would be over after Bush's 8 years, and that nuance would once again be a hallmark of American politics. These forums, for the most part, suggest otherwise. Many Obama supporters have the most cynical views of Clinton, and many Clinton supporters seem to buy Icke's view that a coup was perpetrated on Saturday when Obama received Michigan votes. Am I the only one who thought it was a tough decision to make in the first place given the initial banning of delegates? Tough decisions usually call for balanced outcomes, and Clinton certainly got some delegate mileage out of Saturday's decision, even if it was not game changing. That doesn't mean that the party is corrupt through and through (certainly not in Obama's direction). Just because a contest has necessarily one outcome shouldn't mean we can see the world only in one color.

IF YOU TAKE HILLARY CLINTON AT HER WORD, YOU WILL BE MISLED INTO BELIEVING SHE 'CREATED' A HEALTH CARE LAW SHE HAD NO ROLE IN.

HER EVERYDAY ADS AND STUMP SPEECHES CITE TED KENNEDY'S LAW AS HER OWN. THIS IS BECAUSES SHE HAS NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF HER OWN.

Clinton role in health program disputed

Hillary Clinton, who has frequently described herself on the campaign trail as playing a pivotal role in forging a children's health insurance plan, had little to do with crafting the landmark legislation or ushering it through Congress, according to several lawmakers, staffers, and healthcare advocates involved in the issue.

In campaign speeches, Clinton describes the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, as an initiative "I helped to start." Addressing Iowa voters in November, Clinton said, "in 1997, I joined forces with members of Congress and we passed the State Children's Health Insurance Program." Clinton regularly cites the number of children in each state who are covered by the program, and mothers of sick children have appeared at Clinton campaign rallies to thank her.

But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several current and former lawmakers and staff said Hillary Clinton had no role in helping to write the congressional legislation, which grew out of a similar program approved in Massachusetts in 1996.

"The White House wasn't for it. We really roughed them up" in trying to get it approved over the Clinton administration's objections, Hatch said in an interview. "She may have done some advocacy [privately] over at the White House, but I'm not aware of it."

"I do like her," Hatch said of Hillary Clinton. "We all care about children. But does she deserve credit for SCHIP? No - Teddy does, but she doesn't."

Hey!! mellowyellow. thats why we have secret ballots in this country. Maybe your family is smarter than you and don't really want an extension of Bush/Cheney in Washington. You will never know how they voted once they get behind that screen. Be a Bush lover and vote McCain and while you'r at it why don't you hit yourself in the head with a hammer just to see how that feels.

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

It is time for a great big REALITY CHECK for Obama.

He's got some INSTANT KARMA

HALF VOTES FOR MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA

HE AND HIS DC PUPPETEERS HIJACKED THEIR VOICES

OBAMA WANNABE HAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS HILLARY

HALF

ALL HIS SUPER DELEGATES AND ALL HIS DC BOYS CLUB WHITE TROLL FRIENDS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HIJACK NOVEMBER

THAT IS REALITY

HE HAS HALF

WHICH IS NOWHERE NEAR 100% OF DEMOCRATS BEHIND HIM

HE CAN FORGET IT

HE'S STOLEN VOICES, VOTES AND CAME TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER

HE'S A TOTAL POLITICIAN TOTALLY CONNECTED AND A FRESHMAN DONE NOTHING WHO NEEDS THE BOYS CLUB

OBAMA IS THEIR YES MAN PUPPET

HE HAS NO CHOICE

BECAUSE HE HAS NO CLUE AND NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS

HILLARY CLINTON

OR

JOHN McCAIN

THE CHOICE IS SIMPLE

SO IS THE MATH

McCain could hold a ten cent light bulb to Obama's intellect.

One only has to watch the YouTube A$$ whoopin Ron Paul delivered to McStupid when challenged on the economy. This man is dumber than the present one...and THAT'S a Stretch!

Oh...I can NOT wait till the debates.

Hillary supporters have husbands, sons and daughters of voting age. As mothers and wives, we have great influence on our family members. Because it goes like this: If Mama ain't happy, then ain't no one happy.

So, it's not just women supporters of Hillary's who won't vote for Obama in the general election, it's their whole dang family ain't gonna vote for someone who hasn't paid his dues. Charlatan.

The more who make the change if/as soon as Obama is the official nominee, the louder that message will be.

Join us. Be heard.

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 8:59 PM

LYNN'S HUGE MOVEMENT OBVIOUSLY HASN'T TOUCHED BASE WITH BILL CLINTON

"This may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind," Bill Clinton said.

TIME FOR YOUR MEDS, LYNN

Someone with no name said:
THE LOSER IS THE LOSER--BY DEFINITION

THE LOSER IS NOT STRONGER--BY DEFINITION
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You might want to mention that to Gore and to Kerry. But better yet, save it to console Obama with in November when he loses by a landslide.

HILLARY'S EXPERIENCE--REALLY

I'd love to hear some concrete examples of what she has done for the American people.

BECAUSE Hillary is NOT more experienced. Not in terms of having made a difference in the lives of Americans and not in terms of ELECTIVE EXPERIENCE. Older. YES. More experienced. NO.

OBAMA HAS MORE ELECTIVE EXPERIENCE.

Just because some of that is at the State level, does not make it irrelevant.

And if you are talking about the US Senate, I haven't seen anyone point to a single true accomplishment of Senator Hillary Clinton's. Obama meanwhile has passed bills to collect loose nukes, help veterans and affect campaign finance reform.

Not to mention the fact that SHE VOTED FOR AND SUPPORTED THE WAR until public opinion polls turned and she changed her mind. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. WHAT A LEADER. NOT!!!!

can't agree more that this guy is unaccomplished con. If people had realized early enough that he is a con artist before Ohio and Texas, Clinton would have won. Vote for McCain!

This argument that nominating Clinton would tear the party asunder is incredibly short-sighted.

Nominating Obama will do the same.

I'll be changing my 30 years long party affiliation the minute Obama is declared the nominee. I know many, many others who intend the same as one way of sending a message to the DNC. The more who make the change if/as soon as Obama is the official nominee, the louder that message will be.

Join us. Be heard.

For ALL those people (esp. CLOSET KKK lovers in Appalachia) who are spewing the "Black America is racist" for voting for someone whom they feel (along with QUITE a few White Americans) represent a better future than the person who will say anything (including pandering to RACISTS) for a vote...

Ask yourself, what was America voting for when there was, nor has ever been a President of color?

Most Black Americans didn't give a hoot about Obama, and was solidly behind Clinton...UNTIL, she showed the world her true self.

Pigs love slop, I suggest Hillery stay with the "Hard working Americans, the White Nazi Americans" she loves so much...for the minute.

She, and her ilk are as sickening as that ego-maniacal racist Wright, infact, he would be perfect for Hillery's VP...in Naziland.

Senator Hillary Clinton keep moving forward all the way to the convention. Senator Clinton is the strongest candidate against McCain. No Obama. Superdelegates wake up! It is not too late. Vote smart. Vote for victory in November.

The DNC should NOMINATE Clinton because she is the best candidate to beat McCain.

Many of Clinton's supporters don't believe that Obama is qualified or ready. They won't vote for him. And yes, many of us believe that Obama's self-aggrandizement of his "superior" character is as empty as his suit.

It is BECAUSE we won't vote for him that he can't win in November. And we won't vote for him because we don't think he can do the job. Do you get it now?

Posted by: Lynn | June 2, 2008 8:53 PM

OK LYNN, TIME FOR YOUR MEDS
SERIOUS DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR, MUCH?

THE LOSER IS THE LOSER--BY DEFINITION

THE LOSER IS NOT STRONGER--BY DEFINITION

False hope. Empty promises. That's what it is about. McCain will kick his butt to save America!

To: My family has two votes: We're 6 in my household, of voting age. Add that to your brood!

Ditto: About the below, I donated $50 to Clinton yesterday, which I do every time she asks (she asked for a donation in her Puerto Rico victory speech yesterday). Even if she doesn't go on to get the nomination, she needs help to retire her campaign debt.

If she doesn't go on to get the nomination, Clinton would still need our help to retire that debt to go on to continue her career as one of the most talented, knowledgeable and widely-supported female leaders of our generation.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/contribute/5AXC

Posted by: Christopher A. Edwards, Esq. | June 2, 2008 8:50 PM

RIGHT ALL OF YOU HILLARY FANATICS!
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!!

Idontgetit said:

I do not understand the logic of the Sen. Clinton supporters: If the logic is to vote for Sen. Clinton because she is the best candidate to defeat Sen. McCain in November, I understand this. It makes perfect sense because contained in this strategy is the goal of defeating Sen. McCain. However, how can the same supporters then turn around and say that if Sen. Obama is the Democratic Party nominee, they will vote for Sen. McCain instead. This is truly confounding. The premise of voting for Sen. Clinton is her putative advantage in defeating Sen. McCain. What is the possible reason they would have for voting for against Sen. Obama? Certainly not the "content of his character."
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The DNC should NOMINATE Clinton because she is the best candidate to beat McCain. That's the argument.

Many of Clinton's supporters don't believe that Obama is qualified or ready. They won't vote for him. And yes, many of us believe that Obama's self-aggrandizement of his "superior" character is as empty as his suit.

It is BECAUSE we won't vote for him that he can't win in November. And we won't vote for him because we don't think he can do the job. Do you get it now?

Ditto: About the below, I donated $50 to Clinton yesterday, which I do every time she asks (she asked for a donation in her Puerto Rico victory speech yesterday). Even if she doesn't go on to get the nomination, she needs help to retire her campaign debt.

If she doesn't go on to get the nomination, Clinton would still need our help to retire that debt to go on to continue her career as one of the most talented, knowledgeable and widely-supported female leaders of our generation.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/contribute/5AXC

IF YOU TAKE HILLARY CLINTON AT HER WORD, YOU WILL BE MISLED INTO BELIEVING SHE 'CREATED' A HEALTH CARE LAW SHE HAD NO ROLE IN.

HER EVERYDAY ADS AND STUMP SPEECHES CITE TED KENNEDY'S LAW AS HER OWN. THIS IS BECAUSES SHE HAS NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF HER OWN.

Clinton role in health program disputed

Hillary Clinton, who has frequently described herself on the campaign trail as playing a pivotal role in forging a children's health insurance plan, had little to do with crafting the landmark legislation or ushering it through Congress, according to several lawmakers, staffers, and healthcare advocates involved in the issue.

In campaign speeches, Clinton describes the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, as an initiative "I helped to start." Addressing Iowa voters in November, Clinton said, "in 1997, I joined forces with members of Congress and we passed the State Children's Health Insurance Program." Clinton regularly cites the number of children in each state who are covered by the program, and mothers of sick children have appeared at Clinton campaign rallies to thank her.

But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several current and former lawmakers and staff said Hillary Clinton had no role in helping to write the congressional legislation, which grew out of a similar program approved in Massachusetts in 1996.

"The White House wasn't for it. We really roughed them up" in trying to get it approved over the Clinton administration's objections, Hatch said in an interview. "She may have done some advocacy [privately] over at the White House, but I'm not aware of it."

"I do like her," Hatch said of Hillary Clinton. "We all care about children. But does she deserve credit for SCHIP? No - Teddy does, but she doesn't."

Hillary supporters have husbands, sons and daughters of voting age. As mothers and wives, we have great influence on our family members. Because it goes like this: If Mama ain't happy, then ain't no one happy.

So, it's not just women supporters of Hillary's who won't vote for Obama in the general election, it's their whole dang family ain't gonna vote for someone who hasn't paid his dues. Charlatan.

Posted by: mellowyellow | June 2, 2008 8:41 PM
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My family has two votes for Hillary or McCain (holding our noses) in VA. There is no way we will vote for Obama.

As an X Clinton fan...one who worshiped their "freshness" and sincerity, I have seen the light.

I CRINGE at the sight of her name, to HEAR the Clinton triggers REVULSION on par with George Wallace!

All I can say is, THANK GOD we found out what she (and the real Bill) is really like BEFORE they sleazed their way back into controlling this country. We have had enough of the sewer from the last 8 years of stinch.

If you put all the Hillary supporter bloggers in one auditorium it would not equal Barack Obama's lowest turnout at one of his campaign stops.

Not to mention the fact that your supporters also show their commitment by donating to keep your campaign moving forward. Hillary ran out of donor support a LONG time ago.

DOA. CALL IT.

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 8:34 PM

I CALL IT. BILL CLINTON HAS CALLED IT, TOO.

HILLARY'S EXPERIENCE--REALLY

I'd love to hear some concrete examples of what she has done for the American people.

BECAUSE Hillary is NOT more experienced. Not in terms of having made a difference in the lives of Americans and not in terms of ELECTIVE EXPERIENCE. Older. YES. More experienced. NO.

OBAMA HAS MORE ELECTIVE EXPERIENCE.

Just because some of that is at the State level, does not make it irrelevant.

And if you are talking about the US Senate, I haven't seen anyone point to a single true accomplishment of Senator Hillary Clinton's. Obama meanwhile has passed bills to collect loose nukes, help veterans and affect campaign finance reform.

Not to mention the fact that SHE VOTED FOR AND SUPPORTED THE WAR until public opinion polls turned and she changed her mind. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. WHAT A LEADER. NOT!!!!

Without any experience, without any records of service, Obama get the votes because people believe in what he says instead of evaluating what he can actually do. Don't give the power to a person who just likes the power. Give the power to the person who spends their whole life leading and serving. Voting for Obama is like giving the nuclear ball to a child.

Hillary supporters have husbands, sons and daughters of voting age. As mothers and wives, we have great influence on our family members. Because it goes like this: If Mama ain't happy, then ain't no one happy.

So, it's not just women supporters of Hillary's who won't vote for Obama in the general election, it's their whole dang family ain't gonna vote for someone who hasn't paid his dues. Charlatan.

DOA. CALL IT.--> YEP, JUST LOOK AT THE POPULAR VOTES AND THROW OUT THE RED STATES THAT BO CAN'T WIN! HE WON'T CARRY THE SWING STATES EITHER. GUILT BY ASSOCIATION WILL DO HIM IN! THE COMPANY HE KEPT IN CHICAGO FOR 20 YEARS! GREAT POLITICIAN!
CHICAGO DIRTY DEALING. FOLLOW THE $.

If you put all the Hillary supporter bloggers in one auditorium it would not equal Barack Obama's lowest turnout at one of his campaign stops.

Not to mention the fact that your supporters also show their commitment by donating to keep your campaign moving forward. Hillary ran out of donor support a LONG time ago.

DOA. CALL IT.

I do not understand the logic of the Sen. Clinton supporters: If the logic is to vote for Sen. Clinton because she is the best candidate to defeat Sen. McCain in November, I understand this. It makes perfect sense because contained in this strategy is the goal of defeating Sen. McCain. However, how can the same supporters then turn around and say that if Sen. Obama is the Democratic Party nominee, they will vote for Sen. McCain instead. This is truly confounding. The premise of voting for Sen. Clinton is her putative advantage in defeating Sen. McCain. What is the possible reason they would have for voting for against Sen. Obama? Certainly not the "content of his character."

I think that as soon as Obama hits the number of delegates required for the nomination that HRC will drop out. She ran a solid campaign, in a country that probably isn't ready for a female president yet. No shame in that.

In terms of Obama, he is going to have to tell the far left of the democratic party to take a back seat, and keep their mouths shut, while he runs to the middle. Can they do it? Judging from his supporters here, it is highly unlikely.

If Obama is so weak, why is he winning?
If Clinton is so much better a leader, how did her organization get so out organized by the opposition?

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 6:42 PM

Re: "UPDATE" OK, it's childish BS to you! So, be it. I accept you're the final word on BS. Meanwhile, I'm a dyed in the wool Democrat, Vietnam veteran and I'm entitled to my fancy free childish BS thoughts. BTW, we're still not voting for your savior! He also won't win and maybe HRC will be back in '12. Michele said, we only have this one chance to be finally proud. My 10 months in the VA recovering from wounds and a lifetime of pain, doesn't allow me to exercise my God given constitutional right. Gotcha!

"UPDATE: Obamanuts, your continued bashing of HRC by you and BHO and his Church, will finally take it's toll.

Posted by: Sean | June 2, 2008 8:10 PM"

What childish bs. He has been exceptionally gracious to her over the last several weeks even as she drags on her pointless and destructive campaign. Axe-grinders such as yourself are doing no good.

Clinton role in health program disputed
Hillary Clinton, who has frequently described herself on the campaign trail as playing a pivotal role in forging a children's health insurance plan, had little to do with crafting the landmark legislation or ushering it through Congress, according to several lawmakers, staffers, and healthcare advocates involved in the issue.
In campaign speeches, Clinton describes the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, as an initiative "I helped to start." Addressing Iowa voters in November, Clinton said, "in 1997, I joined forces with members of Congress and we passed the State Children's Health Insurance Program." Clinton regularly cites the number of children in each state who are covered by the program, and mothers of sick children have appeared at Clinton campaign rallies to thank her.
But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several current and former lawmakers and staff said Hillary Clinton had no role in helping to write the congressional legislation, which grew out of a similar program approved in Massachusetts in 1996.
"The White House wasn't for it. We really roughed them up" in trying to get it approved over the Clinton administration's objections, Hatch said in an interview. "She may have done some advocacy [privately] over at the White House, but I'm not aware of it."
"I do like her," Hatch said of Hillary Clinton. "We all care about children. But does she deserve credit for SCHIP? No - Teddy does, but she doesn't."

Not that this is of great importance, but in the Clinton zeal to "count every vote" I wonder why she (or members of the media) don't include nonbinding primaries held in Idaho, Nebraska and Washington state.

Each of the three states held caucuses. Each of these three states also have had nonbinding primaries. The total votes in the nonbinding primaries for Idaho, Nebraska and Washington state were 424,375 votes for Obama and 375,487 votes for Clinton.

In the spirit of "counting every vote" as advocated by Clinton, the nonbinding primary vote totals from Idaho, Nebraska and Washington state should be included along with the caucus vote totals for each state.

I am sure Clinton would not want to ignore the wishes of 800,000 primary voters.

UPDATE: Obamanuts, your continued bashing of HRC by you and BHO and his Church, will finally take it's toll. I'm also leaving out, all the newly found young voters and minority voters that historically never matter on election day. I'm happy to see an end to this ridiculous primary, and the rallying of the new Manchurian candidate. I could care less whether he was a Muslim before he was Baptized at 25, or whether he's 1/2 White or 1/2 Black. I do know quite a bit how he got into politics and the dirty and seedy Chicago tricks he used to become the Democratic candidate, to win his first seat in the Illinois State Senate. Do your own research on how he got all of his Democratic candidates disqualified, including the beloved incumbent State Senator Alice Palmer. Who I might add, ended up supporting HRC but wouldn't sling mud back at Obama for his dirty politics. Obama did apologize, but blamed his overzealous staffers. He also used the same technics to win his next Senate seat, to which being well organized in Chicago thru misfits like Rev. Wright and Tony Resko will serve as great fodder for the 527's to Swiftboat him. All of you did a disservice to the Clinton's, going as far as calling them racists. So, you're figuring I'm one too. So be it, nothing could be further from the truth. After 40 years of not missing an election, including in '68 on leave from Vietnam, I will sit out this election. I'm not a bitter White voter clinging to my guns and my religion either. I'm just struggling to exist, and wanting a voice in gov't. I haven't had one in a long time, and Obama doesn't speak for me in many important areas. BTW, neither does McCain!

It is time to realize that racism is rampant in America. The tables have turned and the real racists are the black minoritiy that play the race card and play it well. Its been said numerous times during the Democratic primary however it bears repeating. If Obama were white he would be an obscure novice politican that no one would even consider for the highest office in the land. He would have been laughed down by his own party.

As a black candidate he has become a heroic figure, an icon with stature simply because he is black. He may or may not win in November but his ticket to getting this far is his race. Ferraro was scolded for telling it like it is. For the good of the country, hopefully his candidacy will turn out to be a Mcgovern/Mondale moment