The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

100% agreement, Chuckamok, re the way in which Hillary and her followers savaged the women who were Bill's victims. Like you, I have been baffled as to how "feminists" can be so openly misogynistic. I am convinced that Hillary Clinton's campaign has set back for at least a generation, and perhaps longer, any genuinely feminist movement, by which I mean, any movement that embraces the welfare of ALL women, regardless of class or race.

"But, surely this post from jacksmith is a joke - a parody?"

You may very well be right. But I've read so many comments from Hillary-heads, and they ALL could be taken that way.

I NEVER get an explanation, for instance, as to why Hillary, who led the attack squad that slimed Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky, and Juanita Broaddrick - ANY woman who dared to expose the sexual predations of BubbaZipper - could be seen as pro-woman, even a HERO for women's rights.

Such pigheaded stupidity seems to be in abundance among the sheep who support the Clinton Machine.

Dear Chuckamok, you are of course correct re the Clintons.

But, surely this post from jacksmith is a joke - a parody? It reads like a pastiche of Hillary's own speeches, a send-up of her obtuse narcissism.

If jacksmith actually is a sincere Clinton supporter, he is duplicating his Leader's contempt for the intelligence of American voters.

"Hillary Clinton fought her heart out against all odds"

Against all odds? Yeah, right. ;)

The face plant of The Relentless Ambition Circus IS stunning, one for the record books.

The Smartest Woman in the World blew a sure thing, a slam dunk, a no brainer.

Stunning was the combination of hubris, arrogance, that bilious sense of entitlement, endless lying, hamfisted pandering, that hokey fake southern drawl, race baiting, and, of course, the magenta-faced BubbaZipper bumbling his way across the American landscape.

A rookie raced out of left field and beat the ponderous, lumbering Clinton Machine at its own game.

It was indeed ... stunning.

Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!!!

You have just witnessed the greatest political campaign fight in American history. One for the textbooks, and the history books. Hillary Clinton fought her heart out against all odds to win for all of the American people . While at the same time doing her best to prepare Sen. Barack Obama to win in November if he was the nominee. STUNNING!!! WELL DONE HILLARY CLINTON. WELL DONE! Your AMAZING! :-)

Sen. Obama could not have had a better opponent than Hillary Clinton. Nor could he have had a better opponent to prepare him for the battle royal to come against John McCain and the Republicans ahead of the November elections. Hillary Clinton was like a big Mama cat determined to teach her kitten how to hunt, and hang with the big dogs for the fights ahead.

And how about Bill Clinton, Chelsea, and th whole Clinton team. They were magnificent. They really showed their metal. BRAVO! TEAM CLINTON... BRAVO!

And how about YOU! my fellow Americans. I'm so proud of you. And proud to be one of you. You showed what you are made of. And what makes America so great. You never gave up on your Champion Hillary Clinton. Time, and time again you eagerly waited your turn to vote for Hillary Clinton. To pick her up and pass her along down the line to the rest of your fellow Americans.

You never gave up on her. Just as Hillary Clinton never gave up on you. No matter how many times they counted her out. No matter how many times they brutally knocked her down. You knew she would get back up. And you were ready to support her when she did. AMERICA LOVES A FIGHTER. AMERICA UNDERSTANDS A FIGHTER. AMERICA IS A FIGHTER. I'M PROUD OF YOU AMERICA!

Hillary said she would accept the VP spot on the ticket if ask. And I am thrilled to hear that. I think it would be crazy not to take her up on that offer. You could not have a better VP than Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is Sen. Obama's best chance of winning the Whitehouse in November. And it is essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse.

The American people are in a very desperate condition now. George Bush has wrecked America, and much of the world.

YOU MADE US VERY PROUD HILLARY CLINTON! :-)

WE LOVE YOU...

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. I really liked Sen. Barack Obama's speech in Minnesota. I think he just maybe ready now for the Bush Republican attack machine, dirty tricks, and vote fraud machine. :-)

Quote: "Obama cannot even unite the Democrats. In fact, he has plunged them into a civil war. How can he unite our country ?

Rebecca, I think that you had better review who was the plunger and who was the plungee.

It sucks to lose, doesn't it?

Obama cannot even unite the Democrats. In fact, he has plunged them into a civil war. How can he unite our country ?

Many women will not forget the way the Democrats treated Hillary Clinton. Vote McCain. Vote Nader. Nobama.

Quote: "I know the obvious attraction and support for Hillary from women. What is the Latino connection. I just moved to Texas in 2006 (from West Virginia)and haven't yet figured why Ms.Clinton, in particular, has such a presumed support from Latinos."

Welcome to Texas where you see the bumper sticker "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could". Part of the reason is her husbands signing and support of NAFTA, that helped Mexico and Latin countries.
Part is that they don't know for whom they are voting, as the exit polls show in Puerto Rico. Some said they thought they were voting for Bill Clinton.

I find it sad that so few people seem to take the trouble to review history to see if it is wise for Clinton to withdraw. Consider this: A while back, a guy named Gary Hart looked like the Democratic nomination was his. Then he got caught in an extramarital affair and had to withdraw from the race. Obama is not the Democratic candidate until he is declared as the candidate at the nominating convention. Keeping her options open is not a bad thing, its a prudent thing.

Playing coy puts pressure on the Obama camp to make concession to her on what will be conceded to her as part of ther vice presidential duties. Lyndon Johnson once said that the Vice Presidency is not worth as much as a bucket of warm spit. Making a better deal before going in is not an imprudent thing.

If Hillary doesn't get the democratic nomination, she should run as an independent candidate. She certainly has the votes.

I know the obvious attraction and support for Hillary from women. What is the Latino connection. I just moved to Texas in 2006 (from West Virginia)and haven't yet figured why Ms.Clinton, in particular, has such a presumed support from Latinos.

"Are you worried that you might have to move from your trailer park ..."

WICKED stuff, there, G.

Such rapier wit. You must be quite impressed with yourself, ey?

;)

Don't think Obama can deal with the militancy of the Clinton supporters that are going to give her the royal treatment as if she was running for president. It would dilute his message. I think a strong Hispanic Veepee could just as well sew up the election. I am sure they are polling away as I write this.

The 'I won't make up my mind tonite' statement after clearly losing the nomination should be a warning sign. If she would have outright endorsed him, I'd think differently but she once again showed her sense of entitlement.

To Response

"I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply. I'm a new firm Obama hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed. The Obamas are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House."

So winning graciously doesn't apply because you're unhappy with who won the Democratic primary? What a wonderful world you must live in, ignoring the losers and miscreants of the opposition that you are a part of, now, after tonight.

It must be refreshing to newly and firmly hate someone, I haven't tried this tactic since, um, third grade or so. But of course, if this mind set brings the Relentless Ambition Circus to town I must give it a try, so as to release my relentless ambition to be as aware as yourself.

Felons? Why such a serious charge? Are you worried that you might have to move from your trailer park because gas cost too much to drive to the 7-11 for beer? Cough it up and prosecute if you can back up this ridiculous statement, otherwise sit down!

"The only way I will ever vote for a ticket that has his name on it is if Hillary is an equal partner."

Do you mean like "domestic partners," because that's the only "equal partership" I'm aware of, outside of business forms that is. Unless you're gay, wherein the concept of equal partner is excluded.

"I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him. I will only vote for an "obama" ticket if Hillary is on it! "

So, which is it -- never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him, or that you will only vote for him if Hillary is on it. Make up your mind, believe in your convictions, you make a waffle look flat.

Obama is a weasel. A political weasel.

The only way I will ever vote for a ticket that has his name on it is if Hillary is an equal partner.

Obama has the nomination and all you hear on the t.v. is boo-hoo everyone is a racist. What? He is still playing the crying game?

My God, he is not even a gracious "winner".

I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him.

I will only vote for an "obama" ticket if Hillary is on it!

Does anyone out there get that? If you don't then you will in the General because I am not alone!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply.

I'm a new firm Obama hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed.

The Obamas are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House.

Who "urged" her? Maybe it was her ID, maybe her ego, maybe Bill or Chelsea. Most likely it was any anonymous mirror, possibly the dark windows in the surveillance vehicles that tend to follow her around.

Who knows? She knows, and she's not telling right now.

Let's see -- from First Lady to carpetbagger, then thrust on the stage of protecting the "disenfranchised" white voters of Florida and Michigan. What a stretch! My mind reels from the newly discovered injustice heaped on white voters in this country over the centuries.

But it's the media, don't you know? While crocodile tears stream down my face I must remember that this is the very media that was allowed to consolidate to the point of redundancy in the years of your Senate tenure.

But hey, wasn't it Colin Powell's son (another black man) who presided over the FCC on your watch in the Senate; creating the oligarchy that you and your husband now condemn?

Sleep in your bed, it's been made for many years.

What a graceless lady Hillary turned out to be! It is not a pretty picture; I could not be more disappointed in her than I am tonite. She simply does not care about our party winning in Nov. There is NO way she should be on the ticket.

I live in Appalachia (boonies of north Georgia). Call them rednecks but they are the kindest, warmest and loyal people once they get to know you.

Race does matter but only before they get to know you. After that nothing matters other than you.

Flawed like rest of us abet in a bit more obvious manner.

I think I will go with Obama. Does not matter who he picks. The guy knows what he is doing.

Win or loose. Better America for us all.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 11:23 PM

I saw someone talking about JFK's Presidential campaign recently--although it may have been his campaign for the nomination rather than the general election--and he said that JFK spent a great deal of time campaigning in W. Virgina and Appalachia and that initially there was a great deal of distrust in the region b/c of Kennedy's Catholicism but that he really turned it around. Sounds exactly like what you're saying about people giving him a chance when they got to know him.

I'm glad you're going to vote for Obama, too. One of my friends is working on his campaign and says he is as genuine and decent as he appears.

Clinton regularly said that John McCain would be a better president than Obama. She should campaign McCain to be his VP. But Obama's ? No. She has no place being a VP to someone she doesn't believe in.

billy clinton as a relative of some one in the white house would make me long for billy carter.

You got to love the guy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/obama-to-head-to-appalach_n_105031.html

First week as presumptive nominee..where does he head to the place he is weakest. The Appalachian whites.

I live in Appalachia (boonies of north Georgia). Call them rednecks but they are the kindest, warmest and loyal people once they get to know you.

Race does matter but only before they get to know you. After that nothing matters other than you.

Flawed like rest of us abet in a bit more obvious manner.

I think I will go with Obama. Does not matter who he picks. The guy knows what he is doing.

Win or loose. Better America for us all.

Millions of Americans supported Obama just to keep Hillary and Bill out of the White House. Why would they ever want to have her there as Obamas' VP ?
But you go girl and if that big eared clown is foolish enough to have you as his VP then it will be the reason why the Dems will not be in the White House in 09.
Get ready for McCain in 09

Bottom line:-

Obama has a real uphill climb.
Hillary is going to go on and on and on.
She will not make it. But will do everything possible to tear Obama down.

If McCain picks Mitt Romney - I think its a lost ticket for Dems.

Please people if u r pissed for what ever reason and going to loose. Vote Nadar.

go hillary! she should be offered the VP and gladly, obama BARELY won the nomination, hardly a wipeout! if hillary isn't given the VP then she should run as an independent! the democratic party is about the will of the people, nearly 50% want hillary, combine your efforts or obama will LOSE. or the 50% who want hillary will go with her to the independent party! we deserve a choice! i also agree with many comments about how hillary was slighted by the media over and over!

Millions of Americans have come out to support Clinton, it is extremely important that their voices are heard as well. I am an Obama supporter, but it's not all about me. Division isn't the way to victory. Americans need to be heard, this ticket is obvious, and always has been. Time to smile and party.
Yay, I am proud to be an American today.
Peace

I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply.

I'm a long time Hill-Bot hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed.

The Clintons are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House.

Obama speech :-

Generous to Clinton. Rest is America, America, Americans.

Bill

Cory Aquino was widow of ex-president.

To Obama Supporters: Your candidate just won the nomination. The very least you could do for the other half of the Democratic Party that supported Hillary Clinton is win graciously.

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Jason you forgot Cory Aquino.

Yeah Barack is so inexperienced that he came from behind against an automatic selection of Hillary and completely out-campaigned her. Sometimes experience is only a lifetime of bad habits- it does not necessarily equal greater competence. I am sure we can all think of less experienced operators being more competent than more experienced people in many fields.

"thankfully McCain is just going to win anyway. As an active-duty US serviceman, I want someone with prior experience in combat making decisions in my best interests, not some guy or woman who don't even like the service. Barack's picture in that USMC shirt is priceless. Only Marines and Marine family members have earned the right to wear that shirt. Anyone can wear a shirt or put a sticker on their car; few can actually make the sacrifice and do what it takes."

Like Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et. al.

Why does WAPO sort the comments so that the most current post is first? Hard to follow threads this way. Must be a Woodward thing.

NObama in 08

Quote: "Get ready to live with the idea of Hillary as Veep. Don't forget, the Obama campaign is supposed to be unifying and inclusive."

He is not as dumb or as "unifying" and "inclusive" to include a proven liar and cheat as his VP. If he is, so long.

It's time to turn Hill-Bot's innuendo - "Gee, RFK got killed during his campaign ..." - around and wonder: Do we want her and BubbaZipper a heartbeat away?

NObama in 08

Quote: "Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

You wanna bet??
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*Sign* True. Man, its either him or Nadar for me and Nadar is not getting traction but then I am not mortgaging my soul to the devil. Obama supporters are sane.

NObama in 08

"Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

Apparently you come from the part of the country where they don't know her. You won't find anyone voting for a Clinton where I come from.

NObama in 08

How dare you steal my Presidency ?

You better not give that VP post to someone else !

Quote: "Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

You wanna bet??

NObama in 08

Hillary speech.

Me me me. I I I

I won popular vote.
States I won matter - rest don't matter.

I hope Obama has sense not to pick her. Nader here I come again buddy.

Quote: "Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY."

Sure she is. She is near the last in line according to seniority. What has she done for New York in her term as senator so far?

The bacon has managed to escape her, just like the nomination.

NObama in 08

"Hillary for VP?
No way. All of the republicans and half the democrats can't stand her."

Much as that might seem the case from these blogs, polls show that most Democrats like both Hillary and Obama. That's just a fact.

We'd all like to keep our ideological purity, but this is the real world, and it's very hard to argue that having Hillary on the ticket would lose more votes than it gained.

Somebody said that the nominee gets to pick the VP, and that's true, of course, but Hillary did have a second-place finish so much stronger than any in history that I believe she's earned a little extra consideration.

Many Obama supporters (I am one) believe that most of the Hillary supporters' threats to vote McCain come from a tiny minority, some of whom are Republicans in drag. Most Hillary supporters - though not all - will vote for Obama when the time comes, whoever's VP.

But the flip side of that is that Obama supporters who threaten to abandon the ticket if Hillary's on it are also a small minority dealing empty threats.

Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain.

Get ready to live with the idea of Hillary as Veep. Don't forget, the Obama campaign is supposed to be unifying and inclusive.

NObama in 08

Great Hillary is speaking in NY.

Sounds like she is officially campaigning for VP post.

NOBama in 08

An Obama-Clinton ticket is not something that I want to see. She has run a negative campaign and he has taken the high road. Hillary has run a republican campaign on another democrat who refused to use those same tactics on her. Besides being an african american female living in rural georgia, it is not guarantee that she will bring those "working americans...hard working white americans" to the ticket. Living in a rural area, those same people have told me that the only reason that they voted for Hillary because they wanted to eliminate Obama as a potential democratic nominee. In the general election, if Hillary were the nominee, they plan to vote for McCain. As for women voters, I believe that this country is ready for woman president, just not Hillary Clinton. She has to much baggage for someone to say that the only reason that she has lost the primary was because of sexism. She lost because she mismanaged her campaign. Obviously, all of her excellent judgement and years of experience did not help her. She has pointedly proven that experience is not the only qualifications for a job. Obama with his so-called little experience pointedly proved that you can do the job and possess good judgement even without all those years of experience. He has proven himself tremendously throughout this campaign. Sorry, no Clinton supporter can convince me that she can run the country better with all of her experience over Obama's better managed campaign with less experience. Hopefully, Obama will continue to show good judgement and not let Hillary Clinton bully herself onto the ticket.

NOBama in 08

An Obama-Clinton ticket is not something that I want to see. She has run a negative campaign and he has taken the high road. Hillary has run a republican campaign on another democrat who refused to use those same tactics on her. Besides being an african american female living in rural georgia, it is not guarantee that she will bring those "working americans...hard working white americans" to the ticket. Living in a rural area, those same people have told me that the only reason that they voted for Hillary because they wanted to eliminate Obama as a potential democratic nominee. In the general election, if Hillary were the nominee, they plan to vote for McCain. As for women voters, I believe that this country is ready for woman president, just not Hillary Clinton. She has to much baggage for someone to say that the only reason that she has lost the primary was because of sexism. She lost because she mismanaged her campaign. Obviously, all of her excellent judgement and years of experience did not help her. She has pointedly proven that experience is not the only qualifications for a job. Obama with his so-called little experience pointedly proved that you can do the job and possess good judgement even without all those years of experience. He has proven himself tremendously throughout this campaign. Sorry, no Clinton supporter can convince me that she can run the country better with all of her experience over Obama's better managed campaign with less experience. Hopefully, Obama will continue to show good judgement and not let Hillary Clinton bully herself onto the ticket.

Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY.

Posted by: JWB | June 3, 2008 8:29 PM

Well I live in NYC and I haven't seen her bring home jack sh*t.

Hillary for VP?
No way. All of the republicans and half the democrats can't stand her.

"in reaction to the treatment of her by Obama and the DNC"

Oh, please, such sore losers. Go ahead, take your ball and go home.

Hillary-heads have absorbed her well-honed victimhood shtick.

"Oh, we were treated so BADLY by (fill in) and we really DESERVED the presidency."

What a load. ;)

He needs Hillary on the ticket like a hog needs a side-saddle.

He got this far without her.

Who would have thought it at the start of the campaign?

I have never seen the party split like this - it is 10 times worse than 60 or 68 or 72 or 80. The idea that Clinton supporters will still fall in line if she is not VP is nonsense - indeed many will still stay home in reaction to the treatment of her by Obama and the DNC. Yes a few GOP crossovers will be lost if she's on ticket, and a few Obama supporters that were never really Obama supporters - just Hillary haters - will walk. But she brings back the vast majority of over 17 million voters and the proven ability to get votes from groups that Obama has a problem with - if that is not balancing a ticket I do not know what is. The polls show that her addition moves states to Obama and that no other name does - Obama needs her more than she needs him. However, it is fun to watch the Hillary haters in the Obama camp talk "unity" and forget how Democrats walk when we feel dis'ed as shown in 68/72/and 80. Perhaps Obama is not man enough to go against his supporters (or his wife?) and run with Hillary. Perhaps he is not man enough to be a strong president if there is a strong VP named Hillary. Hillary as VP is the ONLY way the Obama camp can show a love of unity - it will be interested to see if Obama is man enough to lead a unified party - or is he only good in front of his fan club as he begs for non-Democratic Party folks' votes?

Haha, very witty comment by "satire".

NOOOOOO TO
OBAMA/SABELIUS FROM KANSAS!
SHE MAKES ME ILL AND I AM HER AGE!

WHAT HAS SHE EVER DONE TO EARN THE NO. 2 SPOT IN THE NATION???

IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO OBAMA, SHE IS PRESIDENT????????
HELLOOOOO AMERICA, WAKE UP HERE, NAPPY TIME IS OVER!

"Putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket for vice president creates a ménage-à-trois. Bill will be the unexpected roommate. Even if a President Obama can discipline Hillary and get her to play second fiddle, there is not the remotest chance that he can get the former president to accept such rules. Even if Bill Clinton wanted to rein in his newly prolific public expressions of rage and frustration, there is doubt that he is any longer capable of doing so." - Dick Morris

Morris probably has a deeper insight than most into the pathological swamp between BubbaJeff's ears.

Having Hillary on board should scare the hell out of Obama. But having magenta-faced Bubba careening across the deck would be a living nightmare.

No more Clintons. Ever.

Dear T Gibson, "grammar" is not spelled "grammer", you babbling idiot. Obviously the last thing you need to worry about is getting a master's degree. You need to get an elementary school degree. It scares me that you might be able to vote or procreate.

Every time an Obama supporter attacks Hillary, he convinces another Clinton supporter to vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mary | June 3, 2008 7:21 PM

Really, Mary? You're all so pathetic and weak that you change your vote based on an 'attack' on a blog?

And I thought Hillary was exaggerating when she called her supporters freaktards.

"The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country."

Both Clintons are felons. The last thing Obama needs is BubbaZipper lurking in the hallways in his overcoat, on the lookout for interns.

I nominate Obama for Mt. Rushmore, for making a second Billary infestation of the White House impossible.

During the 2008 primary campaigns, however, I reluctantly came to recognize that Hillary is the Clinton with the graver character flaws: I now regard her as a corrupt, lying, power-mad demagogue.

The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country.

If Obama selects Hillary as his VP, I will vote Republican for the first time in my life.

Posted by: Pat S | June 3, 2008 8:33 PM

My gut level assessment of the Clintons has always been: he's weak but she's evil. And I think that at least that basic outline became clear to anyone with an open mind over the past six months. And don't worry--she will NOT be on the ticket. No Way. No How.

Go feminists, go. As you vote for McCain remember not only Roe v Wade (because it is never about a single issue), but also:

*lower wages for the same work
*high taxes for single Moms and other middle class families
*your sons drafted and dying in Iraq, because this country cannot continue to fight two wars on two fronts with a volunteer army stretched to the hilt with redeployments (remember Napolean?)
*ever more elusive access to health care because you cannot afford it
*more tax breaks for the rich
*the list is endless...

You will reap what you vote for or don't vote for. I wish you and our country good luck because with American's like you we will need it. (I've always admired pettiness over patriotism and intellect.)

Your graciousness regarding Obama's win is overwhelming and heart warming. (NOT!)

All these posts really don't mean all that much.
When it comes down to it Obama and his campaign will not and should not offer Hillary the VP slot.
She is a strong person and will run over him,,,be it on purpose(most likely) or just because she is strong willed.
This issue will be danced around until it is annouced that Obama picked someone else.
Hillary and Barack simple are oil and water. They could never work together and they dont want to work together. They would be at each others throats in private so much that this country would suffer.
Obama would be more likely to chose Edwards/Richardson/Reid or an as yet unknown VP candidate. By saying he is not asking VP's he is dancing around the Clinton option and by saying she would consider it she is dancing around the fact it hasnt been offered.
So all our comments and nasty remarks or rude remarks don't amount to a hill of beans.
Only thing anyone can do is make their best informed decision come November. Race/Gender/Age/Party Affiliation/Military Experiance should not be a decision maker.

Its in American DNA to stand for individualism vs. Dynastic inheritance of power.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 8:31 PM

This is the ultimate issue of this election and after 20 years of two corrupt and self serving families, Americans our taking our Country back. Our Founding Fathers would be proud.

NO VP SLOT FOR CLINTON!

NO!

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

NO!

Hillary Clinton is the most divisive, REPUBLICAN WING NUT RELIGIO-FACIST BASE ENERGIZING candidate I've EVER seen!

We just REJECTED her and now she's asking her senate friends to "ask her to consider VP"... How charming. How TYPICAL is it for the MSM toi actually repeat the rediculous charade as if it were genuine. Like we're gonna swallow THAT.

TYPICAL. And completely DISINGENUOUS LIKE SHE ALWAYS IS.

THE WEASELING LAWYER IS "ON THE SLIME" YET AGAIN!

Obama/Sebelius
Obama/Hagel
Obama/Napolitano
Obama/Richardson

But NEVER, EVER, NOT-IN-A-MILLION-YEARS
"Obama/DinasaurpoliticianClinton"

DON'T YOU KOOL-AID DRINKERS EVER LEARN?

The misandrist voter, and the "Latino voter" (if there is such a monolithic block which I seriously doubt exists outside of the ghetto) are just going to have to choose between "Bushco-III", and an African American Statesman President.

I am a 58-year old woman who votes in Pennsylvania. I have always voted Democratic. Obviously, that means I voted twice for Bill Clinton. He disappointed me - the scandals, the character flaws. But I always admired Hillary as strong, intelligent, and compassionate.

During the 2008 primary campaigns, however, I reluctantly came to recognize that Hillary is the Clinton with the graver character flaws: I now regard her as a corrupt, lying, power-mad demagogue.

The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country.

If Obama selects Hillary as his VP, I will vote Republican for the first time in my life.

Good for you you finally figured out what your name was instead of being an unnamed jerk, lmao.

news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?

So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM

"articales"
"refrencing"
"there name"

This is your spelling and grammatical ability and other people are in ignorant bliss?

And no, I can't understand comments from ignorant retards who couldn't pass a fourth grade spelling test.

The one thing Hillary Clinton speaks the truth about, though, is that her supporters are dumber than dirt.

Posted by: lynnisadumbass | June 3, 2008 8:28 PM

Hillary stands more for dynastic rule rather than any feminist standard bearer.

Same goes for most of female leaders around the world.

Indira Gandhi - Daughter of Nehru
Benazir Bhutto - Daughter of Bhutto
SriLanka - same
Argentina - wife of ex-President
Bangladesh - same (one widow against another).

Two female leaders standout in the world as true victory for feminist cause.

1. Margaret Thatcher
2. Angela Merkel (Whose shoulders Bush was trying to massage a few months ago)

France came close but the lady lost out.

Now lets see what Hillary claims.

1. First lady of Arkansas
2. First lady of US
3. Ready from day one (based on the experience of being married to the guy).

Will it really be a victory for feminism in US. Is this kind of victory really what feminists want ?

She lost not because of sexism but because of horrible mismanagement of the campaign - the one thing that give us all a preview of her management style (besides her handling of universal health care). Sexism is certainly a factor just like being black or from south or whatever is a factor.

Her run however will stand as a milestone for feminist cause in US. Because of it no one in US will ever seriously question if any woman can run or govern.

I see very vocal tiny shiver of female supporters of hers voicing disapproval and threatening deflection to McCain. (Really !?! and that helps your candidate how ? If Obama looses you folks serious think all Obama supporters will line up for Hillary in 2012 ?)

Their slogan is Sexism/Feminism. By and large all Hillary supporters I know (my wife included) seem to be fine, moved on.

There is an interesting article here.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/2/183142/3699/191/527650

Media always loves a good story and will do everything to keep it alive. They highlight this minority as hanger bearer of division.

Sure there is disappointment but I doubt if is on the rabid scale a few posters here seem to indicate.

I honestly think, for this fraction, if not sexism they will be screaming some other excuse.

Its in American DNA to stand for individualism vs. Dynastic inheritance of power.

By an large most women know this subconsciously.

I really do not think its cause of concern. If Obama looses he will loose because of his faults. The challenges are known and their is time to work hard.

God help us all.

I don't think Obama will pick Hillary to be his VP but I also believe he will NOT win if he doesn't. I know that my vote will go to McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket!

Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY.

news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?

So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM

"articales"
"refrencing"
"there name"

This is your spelling and grammatical ability and other people are in ignorant bliss?

And no, I can't understand comments from ignorant retards who couldn't pass a fourth grade spelling test.

The one thing Hillary Clinton speaks the truth about, though, is that her supporters are dumber than dirt.

If Hillary is Barack's VP, he'd have to hire a squad of food tasters.

This stuff about experience is nonsense. The least experienced of the three, Barack Obama could see through the pro-war propaganda. The correct decision when you get a 3 am phone call is what matters- not how old you are when you make the decision.
Obama spoke up against the war in Chicago on Oct 11, 2002 when it was difficult and unpopular to do so. The new book from inside the White House illustrates the shenanigans that went on to push us into a phony war. Obama is the more patriotic of the 3 contenders because he opposed wasting American lives on an unjustified war. I will go for the candidate who is in no way responsible for killing 4,000 of my fellow Americans, who died for no good reason whatsoever. True patriotism is having the guts to do what Obama did instead of caving in to Bush's idiocy for personal political expedience.
Far from Obama being ageist, it is McCain that is discriminating on the basis of age, forever harping on about Obama's "inexperience".

All these posts really don't mean all that much.
When it comes down to it Obama and his campaign will not and should not offer Hillary the VP slot.
She is a strong person and will run over him,,,be it on purpose(most likely) or just because she is strong willed.
This issue will be danced around until it is annouced that Obama picked someone else.
Hillary and Barack simple are oil and water. They could never work together and they dont want to work together. They would be at each others throats in private so much that this country would suffer.
Obama would be more likely to chose Edwards/Richardson/Reid or an as yet unknown VP candidate. By saying saying he is not asking VP's yet he is dancing around Clinton option and she by saying she would consider it she is dancing around the fact it hasnt been offered.
So all our comments and nasty remarks or rude remarks don't amoutn to a hill of beans.

Obama won't have secret service after November if he doesn't get elected, while Hillary will continue enjoying the secret service we paid for.

"Hillary is "willing" to consider V.P.."
sounds so funny as if Obama is begging her to be his V.P.

Worse yet, Hillary leaked her interest through her friends in the Senate.

Who cares who his VP choice is?

He'd lose if Jesus Christ himself endorsed him.

He's black, a closet muslim, a member of racist church which is apparently the new home of the black panthers and a weekend retreat for Louis Farrakahn, and his middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: WTF???????? | June 3, 2008 8:15 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

Our voices must be heard, otherwise we will continue to be second-class citizens. Roe vs Wade is just one battle: the war against women is much greater than a single battle. The Democratic party is a sly perpetrator of sexism, and must pay the price. I will vote for McCain in November.

Posted by: Marianne | June 3, 2008 7:28 PM

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

How telling. Sen. Hillary Clinton could not even be gracious on the night the Democratic primary race comes to a close and she is not the winner. As usual, the night has to be about her instead of the party or the American people (ref her VP comments).

No one is fooled that she was merely answering a question. The question was clearly planted by her and her supporters to spoil the night for the Democrats.

Sen Clinton could well be determining her own political demise by her self-centered actions cloaked in party unity. One thing, if she is perceived as causing Sen Obama's defeat or as trying to blackmail Sen Obama,
she will never win another national election as a Democrat.

El Latino - callate. No sabes nada.

BB

Who cares who his VP choice is?

He'd lose if Jesus Christ himself endorsed him.

He's black, a closet muslim, a member of racist church which is apparently the new home of the black panthers and a weekend retreat for Louis Farrakahn, and his middle name is Hussein.

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM

Really? Then why did Hillary bring it up? I have never heard ANY candidate talk about their "hard working American" "White American" support before.

It's disgusting and so are you for supporting such a race baiting piece of trash as Hillary Clinton. As far as being a racist, I haven't seen anyone accuse you of that, so why don't you keep your few brain cells focused, if you're able.

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 8:08 PM

You can't even put a name to your posts and you can not even understand what I posted.

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

She did yes........but she didnt have to...correct. It is brought up by many Obama supporters,,,be it over the phone...on tv interviews, internet or news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?
Also to help you understand my post better I never once accused anyone here on this site calling me anything...did you see me mention anyones name??? Everyone here is using a name for there posts.......well most everyone. So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name couldn't I? lol
But thank you for bringing to light my point....ignorance must be your bliss.

Hillary Rodham Clinton Independent (_X_)

Posted by: Active Duty | June 3, 2008 8:10 PM

You might want to watch the news or read this article. She's begging to be the VP.

I have supported Obama since before he declared his candidacy. I would support an Obama-Clinton ticket, but unless Bill has a terminal illness he's keeping mum about there is no such thing as an Obama-Clinton ticket there is only a Clinton-Obama-Clinton ticket. If I want drama I have Netflix.

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

November 2008 ELECTION BALLOT
--------------------------------------------
For President of the United States:

John McCain Republican (___)

Barack Hussein Obama Democrat (___)

Hillary Rodham Clinton Independent (_X_)

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM

Really? Then why did Hillary bring it up? I have never heard ANY candidate talk about their "hard working American" "White American" support before.

It's disgusting and so are you for supporting such a race baiting piece of trash as Hillary Clinton. As far as being a racist, I haven't seen anyone accuse you of that, so why don't you keep your few brain cells focused, if you're able.

If this campaign has proven *anything*, it is that Hillary Rodham Clinton is *not* - repeat, NOT - a team player.

Why would *anyone* (except, perhaps John McCain) want her on their team?

They'd have to be a masochist (or a death wish).

The Clintons, who I loved when they battled the Reaganauts in the 90's, were willing to burn the Democratic house to the ground to win the nomination. They would have lost in November, because many would have left the party in November( i.e the young white, black, brown and blacks wholesale) and never come back. This contest is not racial, but generational. Barack is the Bill Clinton who could not win in '92; Bill and Hilary Clinton cannot see it because they have been in power too long. Bill Clinton once said he would not see a black president in his lifetime. Barack is not afraid to run; he is not afraid to lose. He already defines the coming generation.

The Clintons, who I loved when they battled the Reaganauts in the 90's, were willing to burn the Democratic house to the ground to win the nomination. They would have lost in November, because many would have left the party in November( i.e the young white, black, brown and blacks wholesale) and never come back. This contest is not racial, but generational. Barack is the Bill Clinton who could not win in '92; Bill and Hilary Clinton cannot see it because they have been in power too long. Bill Clinton once said he would not see a black president in his lifetime. Barack is not afraid to run; he is not afraid to lose. He already defines the coming generation.

I used the misspellings to get your attention! I see you can use english great. His middle name is ..... But you use it to equate him to a tyrant or person that promotes fear my friend. You are the idiot might I add a person of limited brain power and a sore loser.

Posted by: TGibson | June 3, 2008 7:59 PM

WTF IS THIS GIBBERISH?

Dear T Gibson, apart from having to give you spelling lessons, it appears I must now take you to school on English grammar. You might want to look up that chapter on the use of punctuation. You continue to prove you are an idiot. Keep it up.

This is what makes me sick of the years Dem. nomination race: ignoranance to this degree:

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Posted by: Muslims for Obama | June 3, 2008 7:46 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM

I'm a 36yr old White Female in Colorado,,I am also a Hillary supporter....does that make me racist???? NO!!.........Do I get accused of racism over and over again? YES... I get accused of being racist by Obama supporters that do not know me one bit. They do not know my many African American friends or even my family members who are African American. Ignorance must be bliss because this country is swimming in ignorant registered voters.
Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns.......the American people will do it for them.
When it comes right down to it we haven't really progressed all that much have we? There is still tons of hate and racism in this country and for those that honestly aren't racist it will never matter because people will belive you are no matter what you do or say.
I am sure that come November if I don't vote Obama I will once again be accused of racism. Nobody will see that my vote might be based on his lack of experiance or that he is not strong enough to unite all those he needs to or that I might disagree on some of the issues. All they will see is a white woman voting against a black man.
It makes me sick..........but even more than that it makes me want to weep for this country that will forever see color before anything else.

And given that the majority of Americans of color (latinos) have been insulted by so many blacks and latte drinkers during this democratic primary (to include this very blog), I figure the republicans are safe to win the Presidency indefinitely.

Posted by: Republican | June 3, 2008 7:58 PM

THINK AGAIN! THE LATINOS MIGHT BE A TAD BIT MORE 'INSULTED' BY THE WALL MCCAIN IS BACK TO BUILDING TO KEEP THEM OUT.

I used the misspellings to get your attention! I see you can use english great. His middle name is ..... But you use it to equate him to a tyrant or person that promotes fear my friend. You are the idiot might I add a person of limited brain power and a sore loser.

I don't want Clinton on the ticket. After this primary I have no reason to vote for Obama and I don't want my decision clouded by having her on the ticket. All the commentators on MSNBC and CNN have heaped their praise on Obama and his team as being so smart and so out in front....and they didn't want Clinton earlier so it's the big time now so let's see how they do without Clinton.

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 7:40 PM

No one from Obama's camp wants her--not now not ever. NOW SHE'S BEGGING, THOUGH....

SHE IS BEGGING....

This is so funny to watch democrats calling each other racists! I never thought I would see it! Jesse Jackson and Oprah must be so proud. You'll lose the election but you liberals will "feel good" doing it. And you wonder why you cannot win elections. Like it or not, the election for the President of the USA is not an election for the President of just people of color or latte drinkers. And given that the majority of Americans of color (latinos) have been insulted by so many blacks and latte drinkers during this democratic primary (to include this very blog), I figure the republicans are safe to win the Presidency indefinitely.

The Democratic Party essentially tried to "Pimp" Hillary. She got all the votes and they gave them to Obama!

The headline of this article states that Hillary is being "urged to accept" the VP post. This is clearly untrue. The article says nothing about that. So who exactly "urges" her? Instead the article clearly states that Madame would be graciously prepared to accept the post just in case somebody should decide to offer it to her, but so far no offers.

Posted by: Bodo | June 3, 2008 7:50 PM

Those 'urging' her were her own supporters from NY State. And, right. NO OFFERS. NOT NOW OR EVER...

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

Posted by: mary | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM

Your first concern, Mary, should be that you don't know how to spell.

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Posted by: Muslims for Obama | June 3, 2008 7:46 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

Obama would be LUCKY if Hillary agrees to be on the ticket. She brings experience, intelligence and a lot of women supporters. Otherwise, he may not win.

Posted by: Monique from NC | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM
____________________________________________

Clinton supporters have posted that they would not support Obama even if Hillary were on the ticket. They have done so numerous times, including in this very thread. If she could bring along her supporters, Obama would probably name her as his running mate. But there is no indication she can add more than voters than the number of Hillary-haters he would lose. Then, too, Obama needs a running mate who will be a second fiddle, and Hillary has never been that. According to Vanity Fair, she refused to play second fiddle to VP Al Gore when they were in the White House.

The headline of this article states that Hillary is being "urged to accept" the VP post. This is clearly untrue. The article says nothing about that. So who exactly "urges" her? Instead the article clearly states that Madame would be graciously prepared to accept the post just in case somebody should decide to offer it to her, but so far no offers.

This got cut from last post so will say it another way.

McCain = lesser or greater of two evils, or the devil you know.

Obama = greater or lesser of two evils, or the devil you don't know.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 7:47 PM

This is gibberish, dumbass.

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

As he expressed in a speech Senator Obama would sign into law a new AMNESTY. We as the American people must realize it's our last chance to demand the Democrats endorse the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R. 4088) Leading Democrats are using threats of estrangement from campaign contributions, against any of party members who co-author the law. This enforcement bill would no longer allow parasite employers, to escape prison. Be aware hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are fleeing states that have enacted their own legislation. The SAVE ACT is the iron gauntlet, that encompasses all state law, and guarantees extra funding to (ICE)

The exodus proves these laws are working? A federal law clarifies that illegal families will leave this nation of their own accord. America cannot afford Barack Obama, Mrs Clinton or John McCain passing another AMNESTY.

How pathetic is it that the Democrats realize they're nominating a candidate who can't win in November and they have to beg the one who can win to take the VP slot because they know their boy doesn't have a chance without her.

Say "NO!" Hillary. The party has treated you like dirt. They need you more than you need them. Don't do it!!!

Posted by: Lynn | June 3, 2008 7:39 PM

How pathetic you are, Lynn. She's the one begging to be on the ticket, dumbass. And the winner does not need the loser to win.

This got cut from last post so will say it another way.

McCain = lesser or greater of two evils, or the devil you know.

Obama = greater or lesser of two evils, or the devil you don't know.

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Dear Hmmm,

the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

Sadley experiance wise McCain is better qualified than Obama.
Some times I guess it would be compared to chosing the lesser of 2 evils? maybe maybe not. Or better the devil you know than the one you don't? I have heard both those sayings over the years from many older voters and relatives. So when it comes to November the choices will be.

McCain = >

Obama = >

I am in no way saying I'm correct but some will look at November in that light.

She'll do what LBJ did to JFK.

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

Lynn - we're begging her NOT to be VP....

She's feeble and is only getting better at it with practice.

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

*With focus of Obama and Hillary*

I don't want Clinton on the ticket. After this primary I have no reason to vote for Obama and I don't want my decision clouded by having her on the ticket. All the commentators on MSNBC and CNN have heaped their praise on Obama and his team as being so smart and so out in front....and they didn't want Clinton earlier so it's the big time now so let's see how they do without Clinton.

Tracy wrote: "Go on, keep slandering and demonizing Hillary. Millions of women will vote for McCain in November."

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Hillary is her mother and Janet Reno is her father."
Sen John McCain, GOP fundraiser, June 1998

Don't believe me McCain said this? Google it.

How pathetic is it that the Democrats realize they're nominating a candidate who can't win in November and they have to beg the one who can win to take the VP slot because they know their boy doesn't have a chance without her.

Say "NO!" Hillary. The party has treated you like dirt. They need you more than you need them. Don't do it!!!

I can Totally see Sebelius! Honestly, thinking about the issues, this would be some form of history with these two. However, with everything that has taken place with these two, it is very Hard for me to see how that will work. Furthermore, I would question if it were worth it for those who threat to vote McCain. What would be the outcome of Hillary as VP. I want to say it would be worth it for the rest who share common views on the issues, apart from the rest out of protest in these highly important times. The Republicans, the Independents, all of the other potential picks....if Obama is the nominee, he will have a lot to consider. I believe the Dem can take on McCain, but I believe that if he's going to do it, he'd be wise to choose in a form that will serve helpful and beneficial. I'll support any ticket as long as a Dem gets that White House this time. He can always assign significant positions. We have some credible talent here to choose from. I find it important to figure out the helpful strategic path, definitely.

From the Democratic Party point of view and on the issues Hillary Clinton is closer to Barrack Obama,the DEmocratic Party will have a very strong showing and a high posssibility of a landslide win in November 2008 if HRC and BHO are paired as VP and President,personally they need not be soul-mate as long as the political issues unite them,a prime example was George Herbert Walker Bush being VP to Ronald Reagan in 1980 and GOP won big ! George HW Bush's voodoo economics attack on Ronald Reagan didn't hurt him as a selection for VP !Politics should be about the issues,personal likes and dislikes are just cultural issues,if they can HRC & BHO unite on a unified Democratic Party's platform that's what the DNC is for ultimately___win Elections for the Party.And Senator Hillary Clinton is good fighter and champion of the Democratic Party ! Barrack Obama might lose the November Elections if HIllary Clinton isn't on the ticket,its like a Mother and Son ticket for Pax Americana Libre !

Gerald Heng/Boston/MA
[508] 872-1380
Email:gerryheng@gmail.com

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

Hillary and her supporters are useless pigs.

McCain in 08!

I am a woman, I am a senior , 81 years young and still run a small business. I cannot, at this time, vote for a man who is backed and revered by Anti Americans , and will not be a Pres. we will be proud of.

Hillary, the ins and outs of politics is not one of my strong points, but if helping the Dems by running as an Independant, do it. Obama will not be voted in as President without you. In the long run the Democratic party and the Nation will suffer if he is in the White House.

Only Oprah will benefit. She will change and redecorate. She will remake the first lady and someone will give her a key to the front door. What a mess!

Lynn, you are a smart woman...must be cause you're from Colorado, like me :)

But yes, you are right, all politicians know their dirty tricks, and to a large degree, I think anyone who runs for president is extremely self-serving. Why would you ever want that job?

To: Marianne | June 3, 2008 7:28 PM
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Is that you Rush!?

Sorry Mr Rush Stooge - your logic is something only a druggie could inspire!

How will Hillary answer the question of does she think Obama is qualified to be President on his ticket when she has said he isn't?!

I second that motion...

Obama / Sebelius '08!

If and it's a big if Obama were to ever offer Hillary the VP postion she would be stupid to accept. She is a President material not VP/second fiddle material, again. Also if she were to ever accept it if Obama loses to McCain come November Obama supporters will put all the blame on her shoulders and not his. That being said this is politics people. Obama hasn't offered her the VP position and she hasn't accepted it....personally I think they are just dancing around the VP issue because they both know there is no way in hell they will every willing be on the same ticket. Yes publically she will have to support him.....just as he would have to support her. But in reality they would be slitting each others throats in a heartbeat. Some say that she has played dirty......well guess what it's Politics not Choir Practice. If anyone thinks Obama doesn't know how to play dirty your fooling yourselves. He did not get to where he is now without knowing the same tricks that ALL politicains know.

Karen, that is true...veterans benefits have gone pretty downhill.

It is, however, my belief that McCain's position on the new GI Bill is correct. We will lose all of our best NCOs; they will do their 4 years and jump ship to go to college. To get out, you should have to put in. I will be taking full advantage of my GI Bill benefits when I get out. Sure, it cost me 1,200 dollars. Worth every penny I think.

Liberal men are very condescending. After slandering Clinton and her supporters for so long, they think they can talk to us about "the issues"? Not gonna happen.

Obama / Sebelius '08!

Our voices must be heard, otherwise we will continue to be second-class citizens. Roe vs Wade is just one battle: the war against women is much greater than a single battle. The Democratic party is a sly perpetrator of sexism, and must pay the price. I will vote for McCain in November.

Dear T Gibson, you need to learn how to spell English before telling others they must use it! You idiot.

Vete a mierda tambien hijo de puta.

New politics, new math: Hillary doesn't add, she divides

Isn't Hussein his middle name ?

One more thing, Aoife...you spelled 'you're' wrong. Tell me to go back to school? You can't even use the right form of YOU'RE. YOU'RE an idiot.

To Jane, who claims that she is a Hillary supporter but will vote for McCain over Obama:

As a true feminist, I would remind you and all those so-called feminists out there that John McCain would probably have to fill from one to three vacancies on the Supreme Court. He is not only against abortion, he is against birth control (Griswold v. Connecticut as a reference case). My question is this: are the feminists who are themselves beyond childbearing age willing to sacrifice the rights of younger women in this country because their chosen one wasn't picked for the nomination? I am fed up with this kind of threatening from the Clinton supporters ("If Obama gets the nomination, I'm staying home or voting for McCain"). When you make statements like that, you cannot possibly call yourself a feminist. I have been working for equality and reproductive rights since 1972 and I don't plan on stopping now. I owe it to ALL the women in this country. "Feminists", who are you really for? Please, remember the ladies....

to El Latino first use of english to debate is a coutesy. Racist not at all you are using the term HUSSEIN to raise fear and hate you are the racist and your comment by far was the most ignorant piece of slime on any blog that I've ever seen.

Go on, keep slandering and demonizing Hillary. Millions of women will vote for McCain in November.

Sorry Hillary fans, sometimes you need to accept defeat to retain your dignity. And didn't Obama already choose a Vice President and reject the notion to join with Hilary. Obama will loose too much for what he stood for if they joined, they are too different to join and there will be too much problems down the track. Obama will loose too many supporters if he makes her his Vice, Its e logical after all that conflict. Its typical a Clinton that doesn't want to accept defeat, she is too self centered and can't be s great president or leader.

New politics, new math:

Hillary doesn't add, she divides

Obama can't even unite the Democrats. How will he unite the country? I'll vote for McCain, thanks.

Uh, I was agreeing with you...but ok. Easy there champ. That invitation to those groups were sarcastic...I live in Denver and they had better stay the hell out.

I guess I don't know anything about real politics. You post comments on a blog, you expert. You know it all, I bow down.

And my apologies for not realizing your name was a woman's name...SORRY. How the hell am I supposed to know that? Oh, I guess EVERYONE knows that, and I am an 18-year-old idiot.

You don't even know how old I am. Grow up. Nice insults on the internet. God you're smart.

Every time an Obama supporter attacks Hillary, he convinces another Clinton supporter to vote for McCain.

Obama should avoid Hillary. She undermines his message of New Politics.

She knew she was crossing the line when she said working class whites will vote for her. It was a tasteless Clinton comment that lacked any subtleness.
Her campaign was ran poorly. She succeeded in lowering the standard of what a 'win' is. I would be glad to see the Clinton brand move on, but it seems that the older generations are comfortable keeping them around.

Her comments about
obliterating Iran
shows her NeoCon darkside.
Why doesn't she run with McCain?