John McCain
McCain Wants a Greener Government
By Karl Vick
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. --
At the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History, John McCain stared into the very mouth of the beast. And he wasn't at the dinosaur exhibit.
Only days after calling for an end to the federal moratorium on off-shore drilling, the presumptive Republican nominee bravely came to the site of the worst derrick spill in U.S. history, the 1969 catastrophe that loosed crude at the rate of 1,000 gallons an hour for a solid month from an offshore Union Oil platform. It coated 35 miles of shoreline in three million gallons of oil, killed 10,000 seabirds and galvanized passage of the National Environmental Policy Act later that year.
"Some NERVE Coming Here To Try To Sell Earth-Desecrating Policies To Us," read a sign amid the protesters clustered outside the museum, where the campaign convened an "Environmental Briefing." Others read: "No More Offshore" and "Not Off Our Coast."
In California, at least, McCain's reversal on the moratorium appears to have overshadowed his efforts to highlight his progressive message of a Republican candidate alarmed by global warming and enthusiastically urging alternatives to fossil fuels.
Polls show Golden State residents, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, covetous of their fabulous coast, and unmoved by the gas prices that have Americans elsewhere loosen their traditional opposition to drilling in sensitive areas.
At the event, McCain proposed a "greening" of the federal government, saying that "energy efficiency, like charity, should begin at home."
"From now on, we're going to make those civilian vehicles flex-fuel capable, plug-in hybrid, or cars fueled by clean natural gas," McCain said. "If our great goal is to move American transportation toward lower carbon emissions, then it should start with the federal fleet."
McCain also called for retrofitting government buildings to make them more energy efficient.
But the Arizona senator found no escape from criticism even at a fundraiser, where a supporter who happens also to sit on the California Coastal Commission took the guest of honor to task: "We're really kind of goosey here about oil spills," Dan Secord said. "And we're goosey here about federal drilling and oil lands, which are abundant offshore.
"So we ask you to look out there to the south and the southeast and remember the greatest environmental catastrophe that's hit this state and then balance that with the notion of winning California. This is a vibrating blue city and a vibrating state, and it's gonna be a tough haul."
Inside the museum, Schwazenegger held his fire on the offshore question, instead pointing out that McCain has said he would allow California to enforce emission controls that the Bush Administration has moved to strike down. The Terminator also lauded McCain's plan to make the federal government a green giant, by purchasing flex-fuel, hybrids and natural gas vehicles for its civilian fleet and enforcing energy efficiency in its 3.3 million square feet of office space.
"This is the responsibility of government to be a perfect example," said the Republican governor. "We have done all those things in California and it would be great if they were done at the federal level."
Acting as moderator, McCain lamented the lack of a national energy policy without mentioning President Bush by name. Instead, looking forward, he drew out his energy advisor, former CIA director James Woolsey, on the money he saves driving a Prius adapted to plug-in (as sold by Toyota, the vehicle charges itself on the road). Woolsey said he's getting over 100 miles a gallon, and paying 2 cents a mile. And because plug-ins charge overnight, when demand on the electricity grid is low, two thirds of the cars in California could be plug-ins before the increase in demand would require construction of a new power plant, he said.
But there was a skeptic on the stage.
"I guess I'm a little less optimistic about technology solving our problems," said Michael Feeney, executive director of the Land Trust for Santa Barbara County, a group that buys sensitive lands to preserve them. To applause, he added: "I'm a little less optimistic about the federal government, particularly the Congress, being able to put its arms around these issues in a productive way."
Feeney criticized McCain for promoting nuclear energy, though some environmentalists have come around on it as cleaner alternative to coal.
"It makes me nervous to think about those who are proposing to drain America's offshore oil and gas reserves as quick as possible in hopes of driving down the price of gasoline," Feeney said, noting that it would take more than a decade to bring production online, a point McCain conceded at a town hall meeting a day earlier in Fresno: "Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial."
The Barack Obama campaign gleefully jumped on the remark, pointing it out to reporters in e-mails.
Feeney was more diplomatic.
"I appreciate the spirit that you're trying to promote," he told McCain. "But I think we have to be very cautious about what I see as signs that we need to roll back environmental standards.
And I also think that I'd like to hear more national leaders telling American people that there is going to be pain and disruption and adjustment to our way of life in this country to address these challenges.
"I think too rosy of a face is being put on. I don't think we can solve these problems and still, as happened to me yesterday, almost get run over in a Trader Joe's parking lot, as she was driving her 7,000 pound Yukon Denali to go pick up her two bags of groceries. That can't happen any more. And that's the way we need to drive things, to make people realize that all of us have to change, and it is going to be more expensive. And we're not going to see $2.50 gasoline in this country again, and we shouldn't."
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Posted by: Obama for President | June 25, 2008 6:53 PM
Wow. Again, McWinner is at the forefront of this Presidential election. Again, he's laying out a positive plan to ACTUALLY CHANGE America.
Obama must be figuring out how he can renege on another promise...
Champaign Finance, Rev. Wright, totally unqualified... Must be tough.
Posted by: California for McCain | June 25, 2008 5:48 PM
i don't think anyone that read this understands a capitalists point of view. as you notice he wants drilling for oil which is more american workers and also boosts the economy will exxon-mobil and these other gas stations may not profit the average american will have more spending money to boost other industries. also if people start using green vehicle then 1.money is will be spent in new energy companies bringing around more oversees investment if we start first and 2. will allow gas to be removed from the desposible income which is what retail relies on and can level out the fluctuations in the economy.
Posted by: charlie | June 25, 2008 5:05 PM
This pitiful little old man simply has no grasp of the clear and present threats to Earth's biosphere, let alone to our national security as a result of these threats. Our own security is in jeopardy with the prospect not only of fiercer storms, but also of food and fresh water shortages and political instability leading toward massive population migration.
Nor has McCain a vision of how to proceed. Yet today, failure to act effectively constitutes the risk, not safe change in collaboration with our friends and allies.
Posted by: FirstMouse | June 25, 2008 4:34 PM
McCain wants a "green" government...and we're "going to win in Iraq by 2013"...what a bunch of whooie! Remember President "Poop For Brains" saying "I'm a unifer, not a divider" in 2000? These guys will say anything, do anything to get elected. But it's not going to work this time around John. A change is in the wind and the American public is tired of empty promises, tired of getting screwed.
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Posted by: A.Lincoln | June 25, 2008 2:30 PM
The headline of this post treats a candidate claim as a statement of fact. It is incorrect.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 10:26 AM
Mcsame is making a fool of himself. How many energy policies can you have? This is going to be interesting hearing explain how he believes all of his policies are accurate and how they would help the American people besides it being in our minds. MCCAIN WILL ONLY RUIN THIS COUNTRY FUTHER. NO MCWORST.
Posted by: GARY | June 25, 2008 2:14 AM
MCCAIN DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. MCCAIN AND HIS ENERGY PLANS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. MCCAIN HAS ENERGY POLICIES THAT CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER. HE'S WILLING TO GIVE 300 MILLION FOR A BATTERY FOR CARS THAT DON'T USE GAS BUT WANTS A GAS TAX HOLIDAY WHERE WE WILL USE MORE GAS IN CARS. MCCAIN WANTS TO BE INDEPENDANT OF GAS BUT SUPPORTS OFF SHORE DRILLING FOR OIL. MCCAIN IS CLEARLY CONFUSED AND I BET IF YOU POLLED AND ASKED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT IS MCCAINS ENERGY POLICIES THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A CLUE. WHO KNOWS HE HAS SEVERAL THAT WILL TAKE 10 YEARS EITHER WAY. MCCAIN IS GOING TO HAVE A BIG PROBLEM EXPLAINING ALL OF THIS DURING A DEBATE.
Posted by: JACKIE | June 25, 2008 1:30 AM
John McCain isn't green, he's just very ill and old. The only way he can help brighten up America is to die soon. Some green grass can then spout on his grave. It would have been better if he had died long ago in Viet Nam where the grass on his grave would have helped repair the damage he and his fellow war criminals did. Don't let him kill more fine young Americans in Iraq.
Posted by: David S. Robins | June 25, 2008 12:40 AM
McCain is a flip-flop!
He wants to drill for oil just for psychological impact, and at the same time he claims to be supporting a greener government. If you want green, then turn your back on oil. Oh yeah, I forgot , you can't: you're a Republican and big oil pays for your campaign!
Posted by: Jim | June 24, 2008 11:53 PM
How did the supply and demand skew so much in only a few months? Where are the lines at the pumps? Did China suddenly double its demand overnight? How come we are exporting such a large percentage of our own oil to other countries? How come the Saudis just increased production and yet the price still continues to rise? Why is Bush talking about embargos why our national supply is so obviously in jeopardy.
Please, everyone; before we rape all of our coastlines and national parks, read up on Enron and the unregulated "dark markets" predominantly used for oil trading. Google "Enron loophole" for more info. If we enforce the regulation of the oil markets (now legal) it is expected gas prices will drop by half in 30days. It's all a scam!
I'll give McCain guts for at least going to the site, even just to get yelled at by his own donors. To those people out there that think asking people to drive fuel efficient cars is socialism, you should all take a look at that spill site and stand there while I say "F--k You!"
Posted by: Grimmix | June 24, 2008 10:13 PM
If and as when either McCain or Obama renounce their "one-world" and "open borders" notions and come down firmly on the side of Americans to rid us once and for all the Illegal Aliens in our midst THEN perhaps one or the other will prevail in California. We're sick and tired of ICE being criticized by Commies and other anti-Americans.
Posted by: tucanofulano | June 24, 2008 9:55 PM
I would rather pay $9 per gallon of gas than have a single tar ball float up on a California beach. I lived in Galveston and I've seen Padre Island and I KNOW what it looks like.
McCain is not green. McCain is a republican! His primary motivation is to provide opportunity for wealthy people to become wealthier. Don't be fooled.
Posted by: Martin in San Diego | June 24, 2008 9:43 PM
As far as oil is concerned McCain might realise that the US has squandered this valuable resource without a care in the world. A basic lesson in economics would tell him that if the US drove smaller vehicles, just as Asians and Europeans manage to do, that demand for fuel would fall and prices would follow suit. One consequence would be less pollution.
Who expects the US to have a brain when it comes to saving the world's environment. The US is good at building and holding more nukes and other weapons than the rest of the world and telling other nations what they can and cannot do but it seems to be deaf when other nations ask it to help clean up this world by polluing it less and less.
The US has one standard for us and another for itself. The only thing that allows the US to get away with its selfishness is the attitude that Might is Right.
How many Americans want to recognise that their nation has for 100 years contributed to 25% of the world's atmospheric pollution? How many want to bite the bullet and change their ways. George Bush senior was so silly as to be unable to contemplate that the US copuld not live without abandoning large motor vehicles because it would damage the American way of life and he regarded that as intolerable. Well, I guess the pollution in LA and the pollution that it exports around the world are, according to his brilliant psyche, OK.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 9:40 PM
Mccain's offer of $300 million for the inventor of a cheap long life battery is grandstanding. How will he decide when the ultimate goal has been reached and when and how will payment be made? In this case, grandstanding is a substitute for intelligent policies.
Posted by: Robert James | June 24, 2008 9:32 PM
Quote from the article: "And I also think that I'd like to hear more national leaders telling American people that there is going to be pain and disruption and adjustment to our way of life in this country to address these challenges."
This just proves that the excuses to not drill are from those who have decided how we should drive and live our lives, without regard to what it does to our econopmy and our national defense. They, including Obama, are welcoming the pain at the pump as a means of forcing the populace to move in their direction. These are the "I will tell you how to live crowd".
Read more at "The Hidden Agenda Against Drilling For Oil"
http://brokengovernment.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/the-hidden-agenda-against-drilling-for-oil/
Posted by: Ken Moyes | June 24, 2008 9:09 PM
Thumbs up McCain.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 9:04 PM
"Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial."
Do McCain's handlers come up with such fruits of addled thinking, or could it be McCain himself?
Posted by: FirstMouse | June 24, 2008 8:52 PM
Another one out of the Rove playbook. Tell the big lie and then tell a lot of little lies too. Tell them often and act offended when you get caught. It worked for Bush.
Posted by: Electric Bill | June 24, 2008 8:46 PM
Let's hasten to submit that Post reporter's use of "bravely" in respect to McShame to the journalistic Hall of Worst Examples of media bias. How about "brazenly" or "recklessly" instead, Mr. Post Reporter?
Posted by: almaden | June 24, 2008 8:13 PM
Shame on you Mr. McCain!
You sold your soul to Exxon Mobil!
I was supporting you until you made that statement to lift offshore rigging ban.
I guess there is no stopping of Obama!
Posted by: Sudhir | June 24, 2008 8:12 PM
If you believed McCain when he sold many Americans on the lie that Saddam had WMDs, you'll believe McCain when he says he's an environmentalist and a man of peace.
It just seems that, in America, a sucker is born every minute, and they can't wait to vote for the next GOP thief and liar and "national security" fraud that comes down the pike.
Posted by: almaden | June 24, 2008 8:10 PM
McCain has few admirable qualities. He has flip-flopped on torture, taxes, and religious intolerance.
He graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy probably passing only because his father was an Admiral. He cheated repeatedly on his first wife before leaving her for a young, pretty rich blonde with political connections in Arizona.
He was one of the Keating Five and has spent his political career "sleeping" with powerful lobbyists.
He even recently was caught calling his second wife "a trollop, a cu*t" in public.
Also recently he allegedly was rumored to be exually involved with another "pretty blonde" lobbyist.
He's not a straight shooter, quite the contrary.
Posted by: A.Lincoln | June 24, 2008 7:51 PM
McCain has few admirable qualities. He has flip-flopped on torture, taxes, and religious intolerance.
He graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy probably passing only because his father was an Admiral. He cheated repeatedly on his first wife before leaving her for a young, pretty rich blonde with political connections in Arizona.
He was one of the Keating Five and has spent his political career "sleeping" with powerful lobbyists.
He even recently was caught calling his second wife "a trollop, a cu*t" in public.
Also recently he allegedly was rumored to be exually involved with another "pretty blonde" lobbyist.
He's not a straight shooter, quite the contrary.
Posted by: A.Lincoln | June 24, 2008 7:51 PM
Hey, I give the guy style points -- go to the site of the most serious oil spill from unbridled offshore drilling and expect a warm welcome! Oh, yeah! And, John, as you open up the coastlines will you have the same cracker-jack level of regulation that gave us the New Orleans levees? Everybody's talking about McCain's "bravery" but how is it brave to tack to the right to pander to your party's base? He's throwing away almost every single stand that made him a unique and "moderate" maverick in 2000. There's nothing brave about the 2008 version of McCain -- more like suicidal. But he has no choice -- he needs the right wing for funding and to excite SOME level of support. So have at it John - but just don't expect any "drilling dividend" here in my home state.We just say NO to McNasty!
Posted by: straight talk my a** | June 24, 2008 7:44 PM
Beware of Republican "wolves" wearing "green" sheeps clothing. McCain's rush to drill in environmentally pristine areas like ANWAR and near coral reefs offshore show his real intentions, the exact same as Bush and Co. intentions. Their using the surge in gas prices to snooker Americans into thinking that offshore drilling will somehow lower their monthly gasoline bills....it won't. Off shore drilling will simply give the likes of Exxon/Mobil more oil to sell at the same extremely high prices. Remember folks, oil is a GLOBAL commodity and whatever oil would come from these future oil rigs will cost consumers whatever the market price is at the time, meaning high gas prices at the pump...in exchange we have our beaches coated in oil slicks. McCain is using the same Bush slight of hand the GOP is famous for. Thank hard America!
Posted by: A.Lincoln | June 24, 2008 7:42 PM
Again McCain demonstrates bravery and leadership in addressing issues and the public directly - not through e-mails and rehearsed speeches.
There is just no comparison between McCain and Obama - I admire McCain's forthright and direct approach with supporters and dissenters that does not paint the dissenters as "racists" or "uneducated" or "white working class".
God Bless America!
Posted by: McCain Woman Democrat | June 24, 2008 7:40 PM
McCain thinks this means a goverment with more Green (money).
Posted by: McDumass(du-mass!) | June 24, 2008 7:40 PM
God Father wrote:
"Have you tried replacing your cats with just a pipe? It increases gas mileage by 30% and you get much better performance of the car.
The right way to reduce smog is to design better engines that can burn gas completely instead burning it in the tail pipe and put a back pressure on the engine. Making the converter uses precious metal, which in turn use energy and chemicals to produce, another negative impact on environment"
No I haven't taken the cat converter out of my car. Not only is that illegal, it's nuts. As long as the honeycomb holes aren't clogged, it will not make a significant difference on mileage. Tire pressure is the biggest difference-maker but even that won't get close to a 30% difference. Cat converters remove NOx and CO from emissions, both of which are deadly poisons. For good air quality it is essential to remove the nitric oxides and complete burning isn't the answer - NOx still appears in the exhaust of completely burned fuels (meaning no remaining C-C or C-H bonds). Cat converters use Pt, Pd and Rh, which, though expensive, are used in very small amounts and are largely recycled. Compared to spewing untreated car exhaust, the environmental impact of making the converters is tiny. The air quality in LA is way better than it was 30 years ago and that is all due to the catalytic convertor.
Posted by: renu1 | June 24, 2008 7:39 PM
McCain's challenge is to convince us that oil spills are good for the environment.
Posted by: HonestAbe | June 24, 2008 7:29 PM
Another description comes to mind as well: Tone deaf. Anyone who has walked a beach in Santa Barbara can attest that still, almost 40 years after the big oil spill, you still pick up tar balls on your feet. Its why baby oil (used to remove the tar) is standard equipment for students at UCSB.
Where can McSame go next to lecture people on how they just don't get it? Maybe he can stage an event at Three Mile Island to promote noo-cue-lar power, and maybe go advocate the wonders of modern chemicals in Love Canal. Every day I'm amazed to see what falls out of his mouth next.
Good luck with that, Senator.
Posted by: Prattle from Seattle | June 24, 2008 7:27 PM
Arnold Schwarzenneger is a Social Democrat in the Austrian tradition and their platform includes protecting the environment. Arnold leans a little more right than left hence the "R" following his name. Along comes McCain, seeing a friendly governor in a green state and seized the opportunity to hug a tree and kiss and electric vehicle to try to dissuade Obama supporters and attract the undecided. Here in California we see it as plain old political pandering in a desperate fight for the Whitehouse.
John McCain is a hypocrite on every issue: "I love the planet - for my pals to drill", "I care about our service members -it's veterans I don't care about", "I hate war - as long as I don't have to fight again", "The economy is important - it made my wife wealthy", "Fuel prices are a concern for me - do you know what it costs to fill my wife's Learjet?", "Family values matter to me - my new one is very valuable", etc, etc, etc.
To McCain pioneering new sources of energy means nothing more than fat government contracts for his supporters in the oil industry.
Posted by: bfjackjernigan | June 24, 2008 7:25 PM
You know the ongoing joke that whenever someone says they invented the 100 MPG automobile, or the automobile that runs on tap water, that the oil industry will pay the inventor a few million for the rights, and the invention gets flushed down the toilet?
Does McCain know something that we don't know when he's offering $300 million to the inventor of a long life battery to operate the electric car?
Posted by: Hello | June 24, 2008 7:23 PM
I'm amused by all the folks who argue, "This oil from ANWR and offshore drilling won't affect the price of gasoline for 10 years", as though that were a conclusive argument against drilling.
Most of these same folks, I'd guess, are so terrified by the prospect of second-hand cigarette smoke that they would like to ban smoking even in the case of a geezer alone in a backwoods cabin with his corncob pipe.
Something other than rationality is driving their agenda.
Posted by: OfficerMancuso | June 24, 2008 7:22 PM
Let's imagine if a brother were on welfare. His family gets $800 a month from the US government. He doesn't use up all of this money every month, of course. He "saves" some of this up without telling the government about his "savings." Let's say he even has a side job that he doesn't tell the government about. The government keeps on giving him money every month even though he has other sources of income. Should the government be throwing any more money at this welfare loser?
Now let's replace this brother with Big Oil. The facts show that Big Oil hasn't even exploited all the oil that the US government has already given them. They have billions of dollars in reserves. They sure as hell don't need any more oil from offshore drilling, especially if they aren't even using up what they've been given.
The facts show that this push to exploit our natural resources is a last minute ploy to ensure that Big Oil continues to make Big Profits while the Bush Administration is still in town.
Posted by: Rev. SKG | June 24, 2008 7:14 PM
Just an observation: Does anyone ever watch "King of the Hill" on Sunday night FOX?
In the program was a character named Cotton who was a World War II veteran who served time in a Japanese prisoner of war camp.
The character's stature, personality and temperment reminds me of old man McCain. Just wondering if anyone else noticed any similarity between the comic character and McCain. (Both seem to be living a full life in the past.)
Posted by: McCain Man | June 24, 2008 7:12 PM
John Mc Cain, Bush, and Cheny are members of a wicked gang of neocons who have damaged the economy of this country and started unnecessary wars that cost us billions of US$ and thousands of the lives of our young and brave soldiers. They have lied to all Americans about WMD in Iraq and unfortunately got us stuck in a quaqmire with no way out in the near future.Nobody can trust or tolerate such wicked clowns for another presidential term under any circustances. The proper place for John Mc Cain is a suitable oldman house, not the White House nor even the Senate.
Posted by: sam | June 24, 2008 7:11 PM
I am an almost certain Obama vote come November, but in this story I see McCain's most admirable qualities, and I don't mind admiring them. He is a brave man, afraid of no one, and he has as much integrity as any member of his profession (the profession which makes its living by running for elected office).
I wish we could ratchet down the partisan vitriol and have a sane and decent discussion as fellow citizens concerned about our nation's future, without demonizing each other.
Both Obama and McCain have admirable qualities, and both have a strong streak of less than admirable opportunism. You don't rise to the political level they occupy without that streak, in a business where appealing to the lowest common denominator is the sine qua non of getting the job you seek.
Posted by: OfficerMancuso | June 24, 2008 7:04 PM
"Acting as moderator, McCain lamented the lack of a national energy policy without mentioning President Bush by name."
I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. We have a national energy policy, and we're all witnessing its effects. It was drafted in secret meetings with oil company executives, chaired by President... er... VICE President Cheney. So where is the justification for us being surprised by the consequences?
You get what you pay for. And now we're paying for what we got. As Ross Perot liked to say, "it's just that simple".
Posted by: Prattle from Seattle | June 24, 2008 7:02 PM
McCain: Ooh! Pick me! Pick me!
McCain sees he's losing to Obama, and all of a sudden he cares about the environment. HAH! Next thing you know he's pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage.
But the question is, what polititian WOULDN'T say whatever he needs to to get elected?
Once elected, can't, and DON'T polititians flip everyone the bird and say "HAH! Made you look!" Afterall, the days of impeachment are over. Look at how long we've put up with Bush.
So maybe McCain is flip-floppin, desparate for votes. But I wouldn't put it past Obama to flip flop once he's elected. I still see this "election" as a means to pacify the American public and make them feel "involved." Kind of like picketing. When is there going to be an actual STRIKE? Until that happens, I think we need to stop complaining about how flimsy the fronts of our politicians are.
Posted by: Joe in CA | June 24, 2008 6:45 PM
It seems that the trends over the last two to three decades for automobiles in CA are bucking what people are saying here. What is the most popular vehicle in CA? The gas hogging SUV. What's the most talked about topic in CA? The high price of gas. The majority of our actions suggest we love cheap gas and gas hogging vehicles. But, when someone mentions that we should drill for oil off our coast everyone suddenly becomes concerned about the environment. Talk about a bunch of flip floppers!
Posted by: Greg from CA | June 24, 2008 6:44 PM
I'm sorry. I was stuck on stupid when I wrote my last comment. God Bless John McMain and God Bless America.
Posted by: "Bravely" | June 24, 2008 6:37 PM
Ah yes, Senator McCain "bravely" does this. Let's hear it for "objective" journalism, eh?
This could just as easily been "cynically". Or "panderingly", etc...
Posted by: "Bravely" | June 24, 2008 6:33 PM
senator McFlipper does it again...I can't believe he's as close as he is in the pollss
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 6:30 PM
Washington Post sucks.
Posted by: Shanon | June 24, 2008 6:24 PM
McCain currently enjoys the support of 8% of the voters in California. I'm not sure if this propaganda tour is going to help that number or hurt it. Seems that talking out of both sides of your face isn't real popular out here.
Posted by: DWayne | June 24, 2008 6:20 PM
Hi Mclame
Get out of my state....get out of my state. We dont like you or any of your other repussicans
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 6:18 PM
McCain deserves a lot of credit. The standard Repub position for decades has been there is no energy problem that more oil drilling can't fix. That pollution is a non issue and global warming is a fallicy.
So while McCain's drilling is off base and his nuke plants probably never get built because solar will eat its lunch, he is at least on some good tracks. Moving the Feds to alternate sources and improved energy efficiency is a good step. An order for 5 million plug-in hybrids would certainly get that market moving. A battery competition isn't a bad concept, perhaps a bit crass and tricky for the govt to administer. DARPA/NIST always seemed to manage innovation well. Task them to go for it.
As an earlier commenter mentioned, it was the vastly over rated Reagan who took the solar panels of the White House rooftop. That incredible level of disdain for smarter energy has pervaded the Republican party for decades. At least McCain is moving in the right direction, even if he is a minority in his own house.
Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 24, 2008 6:17 PM
His campaign has another "senior moment".
And you GOP fools want to elect him why again?
Posted by: Christian in NYC | June 24, 2008 6:10 PM
Is he brave, or just brazen?
Posted by: rusty3 | June 24, 2008 6:05 PM
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Posted by: GOP Republican Failures | June 24, 2008 5:59 PM
Don't worry people....WcCain's magic car battery contest will save us all!!!
Couple that with his gas-tax holiday and you got yourself an extra $10 coming your way sometime in the next decade. Hooray!!!
Seriously folks....is WcCain and crew even trying??? I'm almost embarrassed for them...
Posted by: dan | June 24, 2008 5:55 PM
flip, flip, flippity
flip, flip, flippity
flop, flop, flop
flop, flop, flop
flip, flip, flippity, flop, floop, fleep
Straight-talking John...what a hoot.
Posted by: nighthawksoars | June 24, 2008 5:52 PM
Is there a website where we can check to see where McCain stands on issues that hour? Mr Flip Flop McCain is starting to get hard to track!!
My guess is that Fox News will declare that "Flip Flopping" is the only way to be a "Real Patriot".
Posted by: Franky | June 24, 2008 5:50 PM
Just read this and it spooked me.
"First I agree that obviously we cannot retreat from our position in Vietnam. I have been out there three times, once as something of an emissary for then President Eisenhower. I took a good look at it. It is a difficult situation, to say the least. But we are in to the tune of some $350 million. I think the last figure I have seen indicates that we have over 15,500 military out there, ostensibly as advisors and that sort of thing. We are not supposed to have combatant troops, even though we were not signatories to the treaty that was signed at Geneva when finally they got that whole business out of the fire. But we are going to have to muddle through for a while and see what we do. Even though it costs us $1.5 million a day."
Same issues, different day. Nixon in 08! Bring on the secret plan!
Posted by: Mike | June 24, 2008 5:50 PM
#1 Please, ladies, gentlemen: labeling people who do not agree with you as "morons," "idiots," "lunatics," and even sometimes with indelicate and scatological epithets, advances the argument not a whit. (It just feels good.)
#2 It is not just or prudent to advise Mr. McCain to SHUT UP!! On the contrary, he should be encouraged to talk and talk and talk. It seems to me he digs his political grave deeper every day.
#3 The article above asserts that Mr. McCain ". . .lamented the lack of a national energy policy without mentioning President Bush by name." I should like to ask this explanation of him: "Sir, you are the standard bearer of the Republican Party; so, please sir, explain why after seven and a half years of a Republican administration, six years of which enjoyed a Republican majority in Congress, there is no energy policy (viable or otherwise, according to your reported remarks) in the United States.
Posted by: Rex | June 24, 2008 5:47 PM
Renu1 says
"Catalytic convertors have negligible impact on fuel efficiency."
Have you tried replacing your cats with just a pipe? It increases gas mileage by 30% and you get much better performance of the car.
The right way to reduce smog is to design better engines that can burn gas completely instead burning it in the tail pipe and put a back pressure on the engine. Making the converter uses precious metal, which in turn use energy and chemicals to produce, another negative impact on environment.
Posted by: God Father | June 24, 2008 5:45 PM
McCain suggested a $300k to an automaker or entrepreneur who would get 50-60 mpg or more (I believe that was what he said). Well Sen. McCain, there is this X prize of equal amount for someone to get 100 mpg. I car already shown on PBS got 300 mpg and went from NY to California on one plug-in charge.
Then there is Ovonics from Michigan who is working closely with Toyota on a due able Hybrid Car, Hydrogen and Electric. The problem is Sen. McCain is that the oil companies you support are putting a hold on allowing filling stations of Hydrogen to become a reality across this country. This is safe hydrogen that is in a solid state not liquid.
The difficulty with your argument is that you are not talking about past tomorrow, but are making talking points for the day or the month. We can all live with the pain, as long as tomorrow is a new day for our children who are already born.
Posted by: Recent Comment | June 24, 2008 5:45 PM
Don't trust this killer!
-He will say/promise ANYTHING to get elected (just like any Bush that ever ran for office).
Posted by: Kase | June 24, 2008 5:43 PM
Hooray for John McCain! Californians love to use crude produced by other states of the Union and imported from the Middle East and Venezuela.
Since they refuse to drill in their state lets's impose a "dog in the manger" tax on sales of crude from the rest of the U.S. to California. Surely in one way or the other they would be glad to shoulder some of the burden borne by their fellow citizens.
Further, if they are sincere about reducing gasoline demand and so the price in California--along with emissions--they should promptly enact repeal of all ordnances etc. that smack of sanctuary for illegal aliens.
Send them home now. Not only will this act do a great service to your carbon emissions problems, congested throughways, but it will be the single most important thing available to assure water supplies to California citizens of the U.S. and contribute to the balancing of state and local budgets.
Otherwise the growing deficits at all levels are sure to bankrupt the state. Do it now. Who needs them? Construction will be dead for years and our teenagers need the work.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 5:34 PM
Sorry Flip Floppy McBush we won't be fooled.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 5:30 PM
Senator McCain, It's great to see you here in California ! The time you are wasting in our state, keeps you away from precious swing states. Way to run a campaign.
Posted by: swalker3 | June 24, 2008 5:14 PM
Maybe a Conservancy of some sort should just go ahead and buy the entire state. At the moment, it could probably be had at a bargain price. Then move all the people out and put them where they can live close enough to work so they won't have to foul the environment by driving for hours every day using petroleum products they hate so much, or suffer the side effects of generating electricity to power all those electric cars they say they prefer.
Of course, they could just all move across the street from their jobs like one of my sons just did in Southern California, and accomplish the same thing.
Posted by: Bill Mosby | June 24, 2008 5:12 PM
God Father wrote:
"Their emission standard is not helping the environment. Fitting a fine honey cone catalytic converter in the exaust pipe only reduces the gas mileage of the car and hence produce more CO2 per mile people drive. Stupid."
First, it's "honeycomb" because it looks like a bees' nest. Second, catalytic convertors have been a giant environmental success and have hugely reduced smog (nitric oxides). Incidentally, they have also eliminated carbon monoxide from tailpipe exhaust which is why no one kills themselves from running a car in a closed garage. Catalytic convertors have negligible impact on fuel efficiency.
Increasing fuel efficiency requirements forces car makers to sell more efficient cars; however, these requirements will be unnecessary if gas prices remain high because people are now looking to buy more gas efficient cars and SUV sales are taking a big dive.
Posted by: renu1 | June 24, 2008 5:09 PM
McCain might be saying what is politically expedient right now, but do you really believe he'll stick with those environmental policies?
I don't. He's shown he will flip flop on any thing of substance depending on what it means to him politically. Even torture gets flip flopped on because he wanted to appeal to the radical right.
Posted by: Alex | June 24, 2008 5:04 PM
Everybody's favorite punching bag, Jimmy Carter, put solar panels on the white house in the 70s. In his first week, the great Republican god Reagan unceremoniously ripped them out. Who was the buffoon and who was the visionary? Now that McCain wants the federal government to lead the way on energy measures, don't he and all Republicans who criticized Carter as naive owe him his due (and a huge apology)? F'ing short-sighted hypocrites.
Posted by: TruthMaker | June 24, 2008 5:04 PM
Using the word "bravely" to describe McCain's actions is a clear violation of the journalistic canons the Post claims to subscribe to. This ascribes motive and emotions to him that you cannot know about. One could just as reasonably saw McCain acted "cynically" or "cannily." Or "mindlessly." None of us really know, after all.
Actually, "boldly" would probably be OK, since whether the action was carefully deliberate (as most campaign activities are) or a snap emotional decision by McCain, either way it did push the boundaries of campaign activities, which is what you were trying to get across, most likely. But to assign interior characteristics to McCain, and especially "bravery," is to stand on pretty shaky ground.
It's the difference between saying Obama speaks "persuasively" and saying he speaks "sincerely" or "from his heart."
Posted by: Larry Yates | June 24, 2008 5:03 PM
So glad for the 'new politics' where we won't have a silly polarized political atmosphere.
Well, except for the morons above.
You know, when a conservative Republican takes on some of your views, you should see that as a victory.
Posted by: Sigh | June 24, 2008 4:48 PM
Is it possible to have a worse record than McCain on the environment?
"U.S. Sen. John McCain, frontrunner for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, received a zero score from the League of Conservation Voters (LCV) for his congressional voting record on environmental issues in 2007."
Posted by: Sally | June 24, 2008 4:42 PM
In India they drive cars running on compressed air, 800 mile range, 95mph, $2 air fill-up.
These cars hit the US in 2010 www.zeropollutionmotors.us
WHY aren't the papers, congress, or environmentalists talking about compressed air cars? Why even discuss drilling offshore?
Posted by: JBE | June 24, 2008 4:39 PM
If the stupid Californians have no problem buying oil drilled from other people's sea shores and back yards, what is the problem of drilling in their own? And they call themselves environmentalists? It's such a joke! If they are really serious about environment, they should ban automobiles completely and only allow bike or public transport using electricity generated from wind or solar energy.
Their emission standard is not helping the environment. Fitting a fine honey cone catalytic converter in the exaust pipe only reduces the gas mileage of the car and hence produce more CO2 per mile people drive. Stupid.
Posted by: God Father | June 24, 2008 4:39 PM
McClone, do the USA a favor...SHUT THE F UP!!!
Posted by: 1-20-09 | June 24, 2008 4:36 PM
Conservatives are always using this "state's rights" argument to justify weak regulations. However, when it comes to a state trying to strengthen vehicle pollution standards or air quality standards, conservatives are more than happy to impose federal control.
Posted by: Maggots | June 24, 2008 4:31 PM
Another GOP lie....They Green they want is more Money and equipment of destruction in green camo.
Posted by: Franky | June 24, 2008 4:26 PM
War is not "Green"
Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2008 4:24 PM
McCain "bravely" visits the site of the worst derrick spill in U.S. history, the BBQ-stained reporter writes.
Posted by: JLE | June 24, 2008 4:22 PM
When George W. Bush in 2000 promised legislation to cut carbon dioxide emissions, sign the Kyoto Accord, and protect the environment, he didn't have a record to look at.
McCain now is full of green promises, yet he has a record... and it is a pitiful record of pandering to polluters.
Posted by: Carl Lee | June 24, 2008 4:19 PM
The old guy McCain really doesn't have a clue does he. He goes to California a few days after he says he wants to open up drilling for unremarkable amounts of oil that might, in 10 years, make up single digit percentages of our current consumption. California!! The home state of environmental awareness, leader of government mandates on auto-emission and other forms of "government intrusion" into the marketplace! He comes here and says, "I love the Environment, let's get drilling!!!".
He doesn't have a clue.
Posted by: thebob.bob | June 24, 2008 4:17 PM
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