The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Vegas, a candidate boring you is no reason not to vote for him, that's why a lot of people didn't vote for Kerry, and look what happened. We're certainly not bored, just screwed.

I want Obama to win and will be voting for him in November. He's clearly the best man for the job. McCain can't even handle being president, just the daily grind, the travel, etc. He can't take that, not over 8 years. Obama can run circles around him! A vote for McCain is a vote for his VP. No thanks. That VP didn't generate all the excitement Obama has. I can't stand to be bored by dull, dry, boring, McCain. Evertime he's on tv, he instantly puts me to sleep. Works everytime!

Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If Jonathan Weisman can't get the story straight regarding Obama's plans for withdrawal from Iraq, and if the Washington Post can't compose a headline that accurately reflects the truth, they shouldn't be publishing a story on the subject. Weisman and the Post need to write a front page retraction of the story and correct their misinformation.

Sorry to Continue Posting Facts...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080704/wl_mideast_afp/iraqusmilitary_080704143017

Is there a Draft going on for our soldiers? WE DON'T NEED ONE!

Obama is like a Fish outside of Water!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/27/barackobama.usa

The Only Original Change I've heard from him is his "CHANGE" on position after position!!!

WAKE UP!

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said "an American military presence still was needed."

See What Iraq's President said to America's Next President John McCain...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iraq

Obama needs to wake up, he has ZERO EXPERIENCE with Iraq. By the way, what country was the U.S. in war with in the Gulf War? Was that Iraq? The Gulf War ended in 1991 but continued in 2001.

HELLO?!?!? Is anyone out there thinking?

The Worldwide Media has Destroyed America's Image, Not America... The World's Media has said we we're heroes in the Gulf War (The 1st War with Iraq) and now that we finished the Job we're tyrants?

For America's Sake READ the Above Links.

Read how Obama got elected has a U.S. Senator... MORE FACTS, NOT LIES, NOT SMEARS, just MORE FACTS!

What did Obama do in that first run for political office?

A.) Registered more new voters than any Illinois State Senate candidate

B.) Vowed to never cast a "present" vote if elected

C.) Knocked all of his opponents off the ballot so he could run unopposed

D.) Ran with the slogan: "We did it for Harold, we can do it for Barack!"

(C) is the Answer!

Obama challenged the nominating petition signatures of the incumbent, Sen. Alice Palmer, and three other rivals.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0704030881apr04,0,6678847.story

Seriously America, KNOW YOUR CANIDATE!

By the Way! There are 52 Sundays in Every year! Do the Math... (52 Sundays x 20 years of Jeremiah Wright Sermons = 1,040 Jeremiah Wright Sermons)

WAKE UP!

McCain 08' "Because he's the ONLY SOLUTION FOR AMERICA LEFT!"

Not a pawn

It is shameful that you accept that American Foreign Policy with regard Iraq should be directed by Talabani. We spend $1 trillion on a terrible mission ... certain Iraqis are getting rich by the box loads of American cash ... hundreds of thousands of their citizens are killed in the crossfire - 4000+ of our precious souls and over 30,000 of our service men and women maimed ... and, you still see a just cause for keeping our troops in Iraq while we suffer in the worse economic downturn in many decades? I don't want to stay in Iraq one more day - to prove anyone right - GW or McCain!! Many of us have been able to move on from fear mongering and 911 - to realize that in 5 years of misadventures - terrorist recruitment is up - Osama has not been found dead (but still alive) - and unless this cause was designed to use up surplus munitions and had nothing to do with oil or hitting back from the pre-desert storm attack by Iraq on israel. Then why we are there makes absolutely no sense. Bill Clinton made it his moral compass to move people from welfare to useful productive citizens ... I am not sure what track we are on. John McCain is a decent man but will his administration bring the change we so badly need? That is the question?

Obama is like a Fish outside of Water!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/27/barackobama.usa

The Only Original Change I've heard from him is his "CHANGE" on position after position!!!

WAKE UP!

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said "an American military presence still was needed."

See What Iraq's President said to America's Next President John McCain...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iraq

Obama needs to wake up, he has ZERO EXPERIENCE with Iraq. By the way, what country was the U.S. in war with in the Gulf War? Was that Iraq? The Gulf War ended in 1991 but continued in 2001.

HELLO?!?!? Is anyone out there thinking?

Karl Rove's Republicans are running out of new ideas FLIP FLOP ... they cast Kerry in that manner - could not do it with slippery Willie (BC) and are trying it again with O'Bama. Elite ??!! Who? O'Bama - because he went to an ivy league school on student loans - at least her learned the value of a dollar - The rich and well connected like GW had no time for school - It was party as hard as you can on dad's money. O'Bama is likely to be the more compassinate conservative ... in the Reagan mold. You or old O'Bama should be the choice ... he will help to preserve a strong and responsible middle class - to stop mortgaging our children futures and to make sure they have Social Security when they need it in the later years. We just can't stick labels like Liberal/Conservative on people and expect that to disqualify them.

Hallelujah amen to Obama Republic!

No Americans vote for someone who does not have faith in God. Plus for someone who disowned his pastors and Church? Give me a break.

McCain shouldn't be calling ANYBODY a flip flopper considering his record. Obama has been consistent saying he wants to withdraw troops while McCain will keep them there 100 years.

Obama Softens on Iraq Withdrawal Timeline

How insignificant such an article. Bottom line is that Obama have all intentions of withdrawing troops from a war in which should have never actually manifested. McCain wants to continue with the war for an indefinite time, preferably 100 years or so. Even if tensions have eased down some what, we need to be mindful that since Obama has won the democratic nominee seat, that a lot of things have changed regarding the chaotic status of our present state from confusion into a more settled and less chaotic atmosphere. I applaud Obama for weighing the entire situation surrounding the war before jumping to any conclusions on closing the deal, because one would need to weigh all situations to conclude a valid solution, so not surprising nor would I say that he is flip flocking. He's being smart in my opinion. Would you want someone to make a final decision on you with just their own opinion, or would you wish them to include all surrounding circumstances and opinions surrounding your concern, also?

Obama Softens on Iraq Withdrawal Timeline

Obama has from day one adhered to his same plan concerning the withdrawal of the troops. Even with tensions easing in Iraq, I credit that to Obama being elected as our democratic nominee, because people home and abroad have a lot of respect for Obama. Obama no doubt have changed the mindset and actions of millions in a positive manner before he have even stepped foot in the white house. How amazing? OBAMA 08!

MARK AZOFF:
Mark...Mark! I am totally aware of what cahnge is all about. I gruduated from and all black H.S. even the school board was all black. We weren't allow to attend schools with whites. When they received new textbooks we got their old ones. This was the late sixties early seventies my firend. I know change! But these changes didn't happen overnight. They came after years of sacrifice on the part of Americans who saw the need to stand up against oppression and inequality.
Obama talks "change" but I seriously doubt that he can or will deliver. The only thing he chages is his mind and his position. It's a wonder he still has a wife. Most women can't stomach a man who can stick to his word or who is too weak int the kness to stand on his word NO MATTER WHAT! America needs REAL MEN, STOUT-HEARTED MEN!!! MEN! We as a country have been cuaght up in a trangendering syndrome. The rest of the world think that American men are wimps! They already know that Obama is one and who probably like to see him as the next President of the U.S. so they could traet him like a LADY! Michelle is more of man than he is. She is one tough cookie. Maybe she should have gotten into politics instead of the "flip-flopper". We need a Prez with "BALLS OF STEEL". Obama has "cotton balls".....he weak man.

I'm sorry, EbonyFlash, that you can't understand the difference between mudslinging and one who goes above that and works on a bipartisan basis. I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between Bush's steady stance of threats and force to get what he wants and Obama's ability to listen to others and negotiate in order make an unbiased decision on what to do next. I'm sorry you don't understand that a person like Obama is looking to invest in alternative energy so we don't become more and more dependent on Middle Eastern oil. I'm very sorry you don't understand what change is all about. But many of us do, and we hope you catch on eventually.

I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I AM COMPELLED TO SAY IT AGAIN, "BHO IS NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME".The man learned how to scam people from the crash course he got fro the Chicago game players and he used it to get to the front in the primaries. He convinced milllions of people that he was different " a new brand" not politics as usaual. You eggheads believed him and whta does he do? The same thing he did to all his shady friends: He changed his game. He feels tha the doesn't need you "believers in change" anymore. He is about what it takes to get what he and Michelle want. I am sorry for the wa he LIED to the people who pushed him along. THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVED HIS BS. But I will say to them don't feel so all alone, he has a history of throwing people under the bus and that means that all of you are NO EXCEPTION!

Bill said: "An Obama administration could be disastrous. With its positions under constant refinement, how is it going to negotiate effectively on international affairs?"

Maybe you haven't noticed that the Bush administration's inability to refine its position has us in the quagmire we are in now? Or are you one of those Republicans that think threats rather than negotiation is the best way of dealing with Iran, and somehow this strategy has no connection to the price of oil?

An Obama administration could be disastrous. With its positions under constant refinement, how is it going to negotiate effectively on international affairs?

Yeah, but letting Enron and Halliburton run energy policy leads to global warming and penguin soup....

Happy 4th,

"our Europeans allies still can't understand why we voted for him."

Well... for starters half the people are below average intellegence.. and he sends out checks and does tax rebates. Anyway.
nice talking to you. Gotta' go.

I agree that he's been a pretty bad President. I've lived overseas and traveled a lot- our Europeans allies still can't understand why we voted for him.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushism-elite.htm

To JR Boston

BTW, George W. Bush is the worst thing that ever happened to the country overall, in my opinion.

to ease the tension... ;-)

there's manny being manny
and there's w. being w.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushmassage.htm

"happy 4th!"

I prepared this just in case....

JR from Boston's in a rut
He speaks of boils on the butt.
And he's become quite rude,
And so we conclude..
JR from Boston is a nut. :)

However.... HAPPY FOURTH TO YOU AS WELL!

my point?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushworstdisaster.htm

happy 4th!

"Your point is?"

A little humor to break the pace..

Your point, please?

And Rush Limbaugh had a big boil on his butt so he couldn't serve in 'nam.

And W. looks and acts like alfred e. neuman...

Your point is?

Obama has big ears, snores, and breaks wind.

Republicans on Obama

http://www.nonstick.com/wsounds/despicbl.mp3

Obama to Republicans

http://www.nonstick.com/wsounds/cantank.mp3

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Posted by: | July 3, 2008 11:52 PM

Nice. I really like your post. If only Obama has a fraction of your common sense.

re: Obama is a mean person

Believe what you want- it is a free country.

And beginning in January, 2009 Barack Obama will be the President.

Like it or not. Believe it or not.

Rasmussen Markets has it 65-35 Obama.

After the debates it'll go to 70-30.

When Powell endorses him that goes to 75-25.

Muslim Barack versus Christian Barry. Fight!!

In order to be a Republican, you have to state you opinion from the beginning and never revise it no matter how much your advisers tell you otherwise. Indeed, that's why we got into the Iraq war mess, the high oil prices, and the economic recession that we live in today.

The idea that a Democrat doesn't follow the same thinking process, and may actually refine or even possibly revise his plan given more information is not understandable by Republicans. To them, anything that gives you more information should be ignored or else you are a "flip flop". In other words, in the Republican world, ignorance and hard-headed is praised, but in the rest of the world, intelligence is praised.

I myself am very proud to say I'm not a Republican and I strongly support Barack Obama.

"Which is more important, Sen. Obama, that our troops are safe or Iraq is stable? If it is the former, you should withdraw them quickly, if it is the latter, that is what John McCain has said from day one. - Posted by: Ed "

Exactly!

"Obama went to Harvard Law School, and he's nobody's dummy. - JR Boston"

He also went to Trinity United for twenty years and lsitened to the pastor and made him his family friend/mentor/political advisor!

"You have to trust somebody sometime. Obama wants to be a good President. Wants to make everyone proud. - JR Boston"

McCain wants to be a good President too. Hillary Clinton wanted to be a good president too. As to making everyone proud, I don't know. He did make one person proud though! His wife Michelle.

Good intentions don't necessarily tranmslate into good actions. He lacks maturity of a politician who has gone through tough races, and has won and lost. All his prior races wre handed to him. He also used every technicality to disqualify his opponents. He is a mean person, with a winnig smile, and a booming voice. This is clearly a case of misleading advertising.

The packaging is great. The contents are despicable.

He says "we've got to make sure that our troops are safe, and that Iraq is stable."

I don't think he realizes how impossible that joint event is. He is making up positions and revising them constantly as he goes along. This reflects as much on himself as on his team.

The Democrats bought a lemon, and drinking the Kool-Aid.

Yeah, and George W. did a little partying in his time, or so McCain said.

Pres. Clinton smoked pot but didn't inhale...

And if you use the bathroom at the McCain residence don't dare look in that medicine cabinet! I bet you'll find a lot more than Ambien!

Texas is supposedly being won by Mccain 43-38

http://www.texaslyceum.org/media/staticContent/PubCon_Journals/2008/National%20Summary%20_day%202_%20final.pdf

but while the breakdown in 54-32-11 white/latin/black there's no numbers on how those groups are voting.

here's a guess:

white 60% mccain wins 70-30
latinos 27% obama wins 65-35
blacks 13% obama wins 95-5

That's McCain 52-48 which means McCain has to play defense in Texas, because Obama has 10,000 volunteers there. And if McCain has to play D in Texas then Obama can go on the O in Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Obama starts with Kerry's 252 EVs. Add in Iowa (ethanol) thats 259. 11 EVs away from closing the deal, one of 10 ways.

It's over.

"McCain is going to get smoked."

Obama alreasy smoked (pot) and sniffed as well. Helped him over the rough spots or something like that, he said.

SandyClaws said:

" First he changes his position on campaign finance and now Iraq. I am really disappointed and I may have to reconsider voting for him. "

Don't forget he jumped ship with Wright when things got hot. He also decided those pals of his were not the folks he knew. There are two answers: The man has poor judgement at best, or condones most anything for personal gain at worst. The latter is clearly the case.

Obama, realistically, is winning Georgia. Georgia! This has McCain 44-43...

http://www.insideradvantagegeorgia.com/restricted/2008/June%202008/6-19-08/Poll_Position_Georgia61919643.php

Kerry won 88% of the black vote there and this poll currently has Obama with 83%.

Increase black turnout and put blacks for Obama in at 95%, and again Georgia is now in play....

Heck, the most recent Ohio poll had Obama with a 2pt advantage BUT McCain was somehow magically winning 90% of the latin vote there. Ain't happening. That 86% black vote to Obama is going to be 95% and the turnout will be +25% for black and young voters there.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b379f604-b136-4483-b19f-7f38a1a85f81

McCain is going to get smoked.

People, enjoy the holiday, Obama is winning this election. The polls these days are a joke. Look at the latest PPP poll in North Cacalacky, it had McCain winning 45-41 BUT that was based on a white/black turnout of 75-21 (in 2004 it was 71-26) and with Obama winning 75% of the black vote (Kerry won 85% and Obama is winning 95%).

Most pollsters are republican and have conservative assumptions on turnout built into their models.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC701.pdf
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NC/P/00/epolls.0.html

Obama is just getting his operations in place. It is going to be a landslide.

Obama is winning Montana, and North Carolina... It's gonna be 55-44 or better, 400+ EVs.

Happy 4th,

When gas hits $8 next year Obama will come around to see the wisdom of staying the course in Iraq and rape its oil fields.
Posted by: Oracle | July 3, 2008 10:34 PM
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Look stupid, LEARN TO WALK!
Oh ,in the SUBERBS?
Hey STUPID THE CITY IS WHERE IT IS AT!!!

This guy will say anything, do anything, throw any one under anything, all for personal gain.

The NObama groupie gutter rats and his prostitute media pals helped bury CLinton under pseudo race and sex cards. Serves them well that they now have this sleazy campaigner that will sell them out for his own #1

Brilliant inspiring visionary or senile angry warmonger. You decide.

Good night all!

The person who thinks that Lincoln Chaffee is a conservative and that Chuck Hagel, who has a more conservative record than McCain, is an Obama ally must be new to following politics.

Leon

Now that [SPCE] has thrown his two bits in, are there any other commers?
A Liberal, a Compassionate Consrvative? A Mets fan, a Gay Woman?
All God's children dance, unless John McCain bombed them!
And he was a "BOMBER PILOT" not a "FIGHTER PILOT". An a lousy pilot in any case!

"If Iraq is in a stable condition- why leave?"
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Why? Congress approved another $160 BILLION to stay in Iraq...this is added to the billions already spent. Meanwhile there are American Citizens that would like to see some of that money spent here at home.

Dear "harried",
Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere???
Posted by: | July 3, 2008 10:27 PM
______________________________________GEEZ,Geez, finally got a bite! From {SPACE]!

Well [SPACE] tell you the Gawd's honest truth, I tried that twice, not from a ledge, but there are other ways!
See [SPACE} I am beyond death, and I'm not talking about my nearly seventy years on the planet! I have watched, as a scientist is wont to do, and I think you [SPACE] ain't worth the space!
It's people like you [SPACE} that make me alive.

When gas hits $8 next year Obama will come around to see the wisdom of staying the course in Iraq and rape its oil fields.

William is obviously demented. His posts sound desperate, confused and profoundly biased. Maybe someday he will see the light. We can only hope. William, the Obama supporters will pray for you. Please join us at Mile High stadium if you have an epiphany.

Loki,

Your mother, that person that said you slithered out between her legs with a tube tied to the bloody bag of your creation.
She's OK?

Posted by: harried | July 3, 2008 10:20 PM

If you really know who Loki is, you'll find that there is no need to be so personal. Besides, the stakes are too high this year to talk about anything else but Obama's short comings.

Dear "harried",

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere???

If by some miracle Iraq ...
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 3, 2008 10:19 PM

____________________________

Abe, you and yours have bombed that place into an OIL-Field!
And I don't think guys in the neiborhood will forget!
What's surprising to me is how effective Blackwater has been in protecting Shrub!
A lot of folks want him dead!

Why isn't Obama debating McCain in a town hall setting? Is he a pussy?

Meanwhile, McCain appointed a new strategist today. LOL! McCain's problem is not his strategist. McCain's problem is McCain.

Loki,

Your mother, that person that said you slithered out between her legs with a tube tied to the bloody bag of your creation.
She's OK?

If by some miracle Iraq turns out be more of a success than a failure, I will be the first to give ole George and his boy McCain some credit. However, I have serious doubts that will ever happen. The only reason Iraq is relatively stable now is because of our massive military presence and our massive cash dump which cannot be sustained any longer. America is going bankrupt baby-sitting a bunch of crazed feuding Iraqis. It is time to get out. Let the Iraqis deal with their own country.

Refining your position means that you have no clue about what your true position is and you're hoping to find it by trial and error.

HonestAbe is obviously demented by drinking too much of Obama's snake oil.

Would somebody who knows him get him to help before his head explodes?

Too many of you Obamanuts and Cult of Obama members are so far gone that no one may be able to help you. Just like the Pied Piper, Obama has lead them away never to heard from or seen again. (We can only hope so!)

For the health of the country would all you Obamanuts and Cult members please drink the Kool Aide when Obama tanks in November?

No matter how you spin it Obama said he is going to revise his strategy. Our troops are safe now. They have been relatively safe for the last 7 years. (Almost as many people died as a result of violence in L.A. alone.) So, Obama's guiding issue would be whether Iraq would left in a stable consition. If Iraq is in a stable condition- why leave?

Michael Brown the Democratic Strategist was on Hannity & Colmes tonight and said the most important thing is that he wins not what his real position is or in other words we don't real know what the truth is with Obama. So Obama's patriotic message this week, are they authentic? I doubt it if he's a friend of William Ayers the wannabe commie and domestic terrorist standing on a flag for Chicago Magazine!

Surprised or sobered?

Brilliant - yes

Consistent - no

Good speaker - yes

Good president - no

I am sick of the media doing the republicans work.
Obama has always been clear and said the same thing he is saying now.
The fact that the media is now lying in trying to say Obama is saying something different shows that they are doing the work for McCain.
This is so obvious. You guys shouted you were going to do a hit on Obama on this for days and the fact that you are lying is proof.
Obama is saying the same thing he has always said.
Are we going to have to deal with the media helping the gop again?

BREAKING:
DENVER (AP) -- Barack Obama's campaign is considering having him accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Invesco Field at Mile High instead of the Pepsi Center, the chosen site for the Democratic National Convention. This is the Broncos stadium and holds about 75,000. Wow. That would be quite a scene! If true, I am going!
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 3, 2008 10:04 PM _____________________
______________________________

Abe , stay home and shoot a NEOCON!
Or buy a Flag and shuv it up your arse!
Which ever, but the easy way is gone!!!
LONG TIME!!!

It's Psycho-bama fever time!! America's livelihood will go down the toilet, thanks to Obama. The guy's going to place his position out for people to see and then refine it. That will be how his presidency runs. By trial and error, of course.

Obama had said that he does not distinguish between Alah and God. Obama is secretly righting history. The Christian army called the Crusaders invaded Arab lands. Now, as the ultimate revenge, Obama is on the verge of becoming Commander in Chief of the mightiest Christian army in the history of man. And the Commander in Chief is a former Muslim.

Here's one:
Assume for a minute,,,
Blah blah blah
Posted by: distin99 | July 3, 2008 9:56 PM

Right? Well let's "ASSUME" our arse for eternity, righ? Matter of time, No?
Look , the friggin neigboorhod is be takin over by a bunch of old skin head NAZIS, and that's the truth!
And the house Court Nigra ain't helping matters!
Right now, what we need is young black boys to rebell! Yes, Fight and kill right here for our rights! LONG TIME since massa cracker!

BREAKING:

DENVER (AP) -- Barack Obama's campaign is considering having him accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Invesco Field at Mile High instead of the Pepsi Center, the chosen site for the Democratic National Convention. This is the Broncos stadium and holds about 75,000. Wow. That would be quite a scene! If true, I am going!

So, reality is setting in for Obama. He can't just say anything he wants about Iraq and now has to consider the real situation. All you end-the-war liberals get ready for the Obama retreat on Iraq after his visit there. He'll say it with big words, but he will completely repudiated his earlier position of withdrawal within 16 months.

Mr. Obama continues to impress me and I'm starting to really foresee him as a strong and highly capable leader. Everyone knows the war in Iraq has been a disaster and has diminished our capabilities of focusing on and neutralizing the real threats in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan. Mr. Obama had the courage and conviction to stand up against the war in Iraq from the beginning, and is the only major candidate who will bring this God forsaken war to and end and bring our brave and heroic men and women in combat home. Am I confident he will end the war? YES! Will he do so precipitously, haphazardly, or in a way that endangers our men and women on the battlefield? NO! What Mr. Obama made clear today is that this war in Iraq is coming to a close, but it's going to be done so in a pragmatic and responsible way that protects the life of our men and women in uniform. That's leadership!

Flip Flop Flip Flop.... LMAO!!!!

Wake up, America!! This guy is a bad, badd, baddd J O K E.

Posted by: CRETIAN | July 3, 2008 9:48 PM

++++++++++++++++++

Wake up, Posters!! CRETIAN is a stupid, stuupid, stuuupid I D I O T.

Nice copy and paste HonestAbe.

Yeah, that looks like my grandma's podium.

HonestAbe is always on here doing a copy and paste from the Messiah's website.
Posted by: WHO
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Not true Mr WHO. I write my own material and proud of it. If you have seen it elsewhere, they have copied from me. On the other hand your posts are mindless drivel and would never be suspected of being copied from anywhere.

Here's my plan of ATTACK!
1--Time wasted on refutation is wasted, go for the obvious lunacy in the post!
2--Proof is not important, these are people that pander to GOD!
3-- When all else fails go for their Mother! They all hate their Mother!

Assume for a minute that new information Obama received from talking to the people on ground led to some changes in his withdrawl policy. Probably minor changes, but changes nevertheless. So what? Would he make a better President if he ignored new information and changing circumstances? We have just suffered through 7 1/2 years of hell with an idiot who listens to no one but sychophants and never changes course.
It's not like he's saying the war was right or that an American combat role should end as soon as possible. Obviously the surge has worked to some extent, although it is far from clear that anything resembling a real democracy is close. He would be a fool to insist on retaining the exact policy he adopted a year ago when some of the circumstances have changed. McCain has flipped on tax reductions for the rich, off shore drilling and many other issues. Where his new policies are better I applaud him, where they are worse I don't. Both candidates pander to some extent because they can't get elected otherwise. That explains McCain's two policy changes mentioned above and his gas tax holiday fantasy. It also includes Obama on NAFTA. These are two likeable, patriotic honorable men, with as much integrity as you can expect at this level. Since McCain is largely supporting Republican policies that have flushed America down the toilet for 7 1/2 years I think it is obvious that Obama is the much better choice, but I respect McCain. Aren't there any other posters that respect them both?

HonestAbe is always on here doing a copy and paste from the Messiah's website.

Posted by: WHO
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Not true Mr WHO. I write my own material and proud of it. If you have seen it elsewhere, they have copied from me. On the other hand your posts are mindless drivel and would never be suspected of being copied from anywhere.

HonestAbe wrote,

"Obama always said he would consult with the military commanders on the pace of the withdrawal. Much ado..."

Haha HonestAbe, W said the same thing!

Posted by: Ron | July 3, 2008 9:43 PM

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Not true. W said he would rely on the commanders in the field to "make the decision." Obama has made very clear that HE would make the decisions, and set the mission. If you're too dumb to understand there is a distinct difference between the two positions, don't bother posting a rebuttle.

Dear "harried",

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere???

Here's my plan of ATTACK!
1--Time wasted on refutation is wasted, go for the obvious lunacy in the post!
2--Proof is not important, these are people that pander to GOD!
3-- When all else fails go for their Mother! They all hate their Mother!

Two things:

1. Assuming no major scandal or health issue Obama is the party nominee.

Any agreement for him to raise money on behalf of Hillary would be predicated on her agreeing to release her delegates and heartily encourage them to endorse Obama, and his VP selection, at the convention.

Obama went to Harvard Law School, and he's nobody's dummy.

2. And ss for all you pointy-headed liberals who are upset with the guy who's likely the first democrat with good character to enter the WH with a clue and a mandate since JFK and LBJ, get over it.

Obama is in a war with the Republicans. And he needs to *win* that so that McCain can't launch a war with Iran and screw up the economy further.

Do you think black people are pissed at him for never mentioning them? They know he's going to hook them up. Granted, it'll be with faith-based programs and personal responsibility stuff that won't cost us a lot of money, but he'll be there for them.

He'll be better than Bush, better than McCain. By a large margin.

You have to trust somebody sometime. Obama wants to be a good President. Wants to make everyone proud. I seriously doubt he'll bilk the system like the Reagan/Bush people have.

HonestAbe wrote,

"Obama always said he would consult with the military commanders on the pace of the withdrawal. Much ado..."

Haha HonestAbe, W said the same thing!
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Bush-the-moron has had no intentions of withdrawal, much like his mini-me, Senator McBush.

Flip Flop Flip Flop.... LMAO!!!!

Wake up, America!! This guy is a bad, badd, baddd J O K E.

I keep hearing the pundits say that Obama has "flip-flopped" or "modified his position" on his Iraq policy, but I am baffled as to why. By the comments on this board too, I get the feeling that different people heard different things.

To MY ears, he said all along that "we will be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in." I also heard him say that his timetable estimates would be adjusted depending on what his generals on the ground recommend. What he EMPHASISED was that he would "change the mission" from what it is, to bringing our troops home.

His early estimates were 16 months for withdrawal. The only thing I hear differently now is he is saying he will update that estimate after going to Iraq.

Now how can it be that everyone heard exactly the same words, same phrases, same promises, and come away with so entirely different views as to what he meant? For months now I've been reassuring conservatives that his withdrawal plans will not be irresponsible and hasty. Now I find myself arguing with liberals who feel he has let them down by "modifying his position."

When will ALL sides realize what he has really been saying all along. That the "change" he promises with regards to Iraq is a "change in the mission." Instead of a pursuit of an undefined "victory" we will instead define our goal, and change the mission to permitting circumstances to bring our troops safely home, and redeploy our resources to Afghanistan. What is so difficult to understand about that?

HonestAbe is always on here doing a copy and paste from the Messiah's website.

End the war in Iraq. That is what most Americans want. After 5 years and $500B, its enough. That's now longer than WW1 or WW2 or Vietnam. It is absurd to keep fighting this endless idiotic war with no end in sight, burning $12B per month!

As a political junkie who keeps informed,it is clear that there is no flip-flop; I can only hope that the majority of voters are not so simple as some of the posters here. As a long-time voter who changed voter registration to independent ~ 10 years ago because I didn't agree with down-the -line party-ticket politicians, I continue to be impressed with Barack Obama; He has been consistent on his position on Iraq, as well as many other positions he has been accused of flip-flopping on; Unfortunately, some voters and politicos just want everything dummed down for them and cannot understand nuance. And either because they cannot follow logical and reasoned discussion or intend to mislead others, resort to "gotchas" and false assertions.

HonestAbe wrote,

"Obama always said he would consult with the military commanders on the pace of the withdrawal. Much ado..."

Haha HonestAbe, W said the same thing!

"Did you leftist miss all those stories of the Blue Dogs keeping their distance from the National Party..."
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You mean Blue dogs like Jim Webb, possible Obama VP? Webb has whole-heartedly endorsed Obama. So has Sam Nunn so blue you can't tell if he is navy or black.

Obama has some friends on the other side too; Chuck Hagel (his wife has donated to the Obama Campaign), and Lincoln Chaffee (conservative) who also endorsed him, and Susan Eisenhower, granddaughter of Ike, who endorsed Obama this spring.

So, as far as the blue dogs keeping their "distance" from Obama, Yeah I guess I missed those stories. Speaking of distance, I'm you sure that you didn't miss the recent story about Sen. Gordon Smith R from Oregon who is running a commercial using Obama as a booster for his campaign (and no where is his Party affliation to be seen.)

"And my guiding approach continues to be that we've got to make sure that our troops are safe, and that Iraq is stable."

Which is more important, Sen. Obama, that our troops are safe or Iraq is stable? If it is the former, you should withdraw them quickly, if it is the latter, that is what John McCain has said from day one.

Conditions have changed. Hmmm. What brought that about and did Sen. Obama support the change in policy?

This is for all the Obama supporters, especially those on the Huffington Post.

Flip flop on Iraq. 'Change we can believe in!'

Yeah rights.

Lets get a few things off my chest. I and my wife gave 300-400 dollars to the campaign,
Who the hell is this guy???
Posted by: mr | July 3, 2008 9:36 PM

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You have daughter? Give her to Barack you friggin ahole!

The reason that I supported HRC was that she had defined policies on each of the issues rather than vague speeches. When you have vague rhetoric you can back out of progressive positions on:
Iraq
Free-trade/NAFTA
FISA
Death Penalty
Gun Control
Meetings with foreign leaders
Windfall profits tax

The very positions you let liberal organizations think that you shared so that they would turn out voters in caucus states- where you can run up your delegate tally without having a lot of people turn out...

I'm voting for him in November (I had planned to volunteer for him, but we'll see now) but the "liberal" organizations who supported him over her- with the policies in place- owe us HRC supporters (the other 1/2 of the Dem electorate)- particularly those of us who are leftist/activist- an apology.
Leon

Leon

Now, in Iraq, Obama promises to not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. At home, the anti-war crowd has just seen defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

Politicians may be different at the beginning, but
they end up the same at the end.

The only people who think that Obama has changed his stance on this issue are people who never paid attention to his position in the first place, and are just buying into the spin. It's pretty much what he's been saying all along.

Lets get a few things off my chest. I and my wife gave 300-400 dollars to the campaign, more than we could afford but was happy to give.

Now Mr. Obama is doing everything to piss me off. Change his position on ending the war, giving a crappy reason to not accept federal campaign money, giving money to faith based groups (separation of church and state remember), give telecoms amnesty, and other crap that I don't agree with and that he said he would do just the opposite.

So WHAT THE F***!!!!!

Who the hell is this guy???

I will not give another dime UNTIL he does some stuff that makes sense.

First he changes his position on campaign finance and now Iraq. I am really disappointed and I may have to reconsider voting for him.

Obama is NOT the Dem nominee until the convention in August. Until the convention he is only the "presumptive" nominee. Dems are NOT stuck with him yet. A "change we could believe" would be if the superdelegates corrected the mistake they made and change their votes to Hillary at the convention. Posted by: tiredofit

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Yes, we are also "tiredofhillary" !! It's over -- didn't you get the memo? Even Bill is on board now.

As soon as Obama gets over to Iraq and sees first hand the progress that has been made he will quickly run toward McCain's position on Iraq. Obama is laying the foundation for that right now based on what his advisors are telling him. Let's face it, McCain pushed for the surge while Obama led the charge for us to surrender and pull out. Obama is a great man in many areas but we need a season leader and Obama is not ready to be our President yet!

Obama is NOT the Dem nominee until the convention in August. Until the convention he is only the "presumptive" nominee. Dems are NOT stuck with him yet. A "change we could believe" would be if the superdelegates corrected the mistake they made and change their votes to Hillary at the convention.

Posted by: tiredofit | July 3, 2008 9:18 PM
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Ain't gonna happen! The one thing old men have is memories to jerk off bye!!

You put your left foot in; you take your left foot out. You put your right foot in, and you shake it all about. You do the hokey-pokey and you don't know how to stop. And that's the Obama flip-flop.

"Many liberals in Huffington Post and Daily Kos are outraged by his position."
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Which proves to me that the Left doesn't own Obama or set the agenda for him. Unlike McCain who has comprised his Independant stance by bending over to embrace all the ill advised Neo-Conservative nonsense that he once opposed.

And here at this garden Racetrack, where American , and some Jews come to die we have a race: Barack Obama is leading John McCain by five percentage points in Montana -- yes Montana! The far backsteach

Posted by: HonestAbe | July 3, 2008 9:09 PM

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Hey Moron!Put your money down or shut up!
I have it even money that you aholes don't bet Shrubs , or his Jew lackies don't bomb Iran! It's even, take the bet, who gives a screaming crap about the lost and demage to humanity. GO NEOCONS!!!

Has McCain ever figured out who are the Sunnis and who are the Shiites? I guess it does not really matter to him as long as the war keeps going on forever.

If it takes a few more months to end this idiotic war then so be it. I trust Obama's judgment on this. I do not trust the senile McWarmonger.

Obama is NOT the Dem nominee until the convention in August. Until the convention he is only the "presumptive" nominee. Dems are NOT stuck with him yet. A "change we could believe" would be if the superdelegates corrected the mistake they made and change their votes to Hillary at the convention.

Obama always said he would consult with the military commanders on the pace of the withdrawal. Much ado...

He has not changed his position. This has been on the Obama web site for months:

"All Combat Troops Redeployed by 2009: Barack Obama would immediately begin redeploying American troops from Iraq. The withdrawal would be strategic and phased, directed by military commanders on the ground and done in consultation with the Iraqi government. Troops would be removed from secure areas first, with troops remaining longer in more volatile areas."

This is the MSM media trying to create a story where there isn't one. I guess they are worried their ratings will fall as people lose interest in a lopsided matchup.

re: Montana

Yeah, and run the numbers in Texas and Florida with Obama winning 95% of blacks (with a 25% increase in their turnout) and 65% of latinos.

Matter of fact, take all of the state polls are tweak them for blacks and young voters: you've got a landslide.

55-44 popular vote. 427-111 electoral votes. And that's without the Powell endorsement. And without a decent debate showing.

http://www.electionprojection.com/index.shtml

"Obama will say and do anything to get elected. He's going to end the war ... maybe or sometime soon. I was against it before I was for it.

I was for Rev. Wright before I was against him. I hated the flag pin before I started wearing it. I am patriotic now ... you don't believe me? Well you better not criticize my patriotism. That is really racist to criticize me. This is what change is all about! - Posted by: alance"

"Ouch! Obama just went from the better of the two candidates to the lesser evil - and not by much. - Posted by: woody"

These two posts capture a great deal of Obama's vacillation, his immaturity, his brazen flip-flops. What does he have to lose? His suporters have nowhere else to go, and they won't even if they have one.

And the Democratic Party and the Stupor Delegates are to afraid to criticize him, lest they be called racists.

If they have half a political neuron firing in their brains, they would forsake this misbegotten excuse for a candidate. But they can't do that! There will be riots in the streets. That's what one of Obama's supporters said!

This is a deplorable situation. There is no excuse for Obama having foisted this on the party. Shame on him!

I find it intresting that people believe Hon President of Republic Could have say in affair. Its Congress whom ordered War & excepting that each sold ier has ~16 months duty, thats closest Pretend can come to promising out. Its War Till end. Congress or those declared War upon.

Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

More BS spin from the neocon machine. Thanks WaPo, you show your colors again. What garbage you print.

I was for fast withdrawl before I was against it.

Dimocrats,

Are YOU suffering from Post Nomination Remorse?

Just remember;

"Flip-Flop, Fiz-Fiz, That's what O'Bomba is...' ;~)

Harried-Bad news, I believe we have incompatible parts!

But Good News! Seems "Barry" will bend over! ;~)

"The civil war will ultimately be resolved by a test of arms."
Posted by: JR, Boston | July 3, 2008 8:59 PM
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Now take that to Union City ,New Jersy!

This is, after the fancy nukes, going to be a lot street in-fighting. Machine gun stuff!
Does Blackwater protect the Hoi-Po-Loi of downtown BOSTON?

"Wake Up you braindead kool aid drinker out of
touch with reality young Obamafools. NOBAMA"
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She LOST, so deal.

Meanwhile Barack Obama is leading John McCain by five percentage points in Montana -- yes Montana!

The latest Rasmussen Reports survey shows Obama attracting 48% of the vote while McCain earns 43%. In April, the numbers were reversed with McCain leading 48% to 43%. It would be truly stunning if Obama could turn Montana into a competitive state this November. George W. Bush won Montana's 3 Electoral College Votes by twenty percentage points in 2004 and by twenty-five points four years earlier. Even Bob Dole managed to win Montana.

What's wrong with McCain? Why is he losing in Red State Montana??!!

Today B. Hussein Obama told us his Iraq policy, aka, Hillary's plan. He pandered the far left during the primary. But now he is moving quickly to the right for the general election. Many liberals in Huffington Post and Daily Kos are outraged by his position.

Many here are so used to patently absurd comments, they can't recognize reasonable when they see it.

Jeez.

Joke of the Day: Who's tall, eloquent, handsome and likes the White House? Who praises faith-based charity works? Who's reconsidering not-so-fast troop pullout? WHO'S SOUNDING MORE LIKE GEORGE BUSH?

[Cue "Hail to the Chief!"]

Man, I'm gonna have a great July 4th because Osama Obama just keeps vindicating what I always suspected about him -- and it's coming true.

Meanwhile, in a further sign that Republican hopes are fading badly, the head of the Senate GOP's campaign committee has set a new goal for the party this Fall: Not to lose too many Senate seats. NRSC chair John Ensign has moved the goal posts, according to the Savannah Morning News, saying that the GOP will have succeeded if they don't lose more than eight seats.

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The hapless Repubs are prepared to accept eight loses!! Wow. That's really pathetic.

Obama says something sensible and both Democrats and Republicans jump all over him. His previous policy of inviting defeat for our great nation was a disgrace. When he honors the sacrifices of our fighting men and women, he should be honored for showing good sense, not inanely attacked for a "flip-flop". As McCain has said, better to lose an election, in this case to an Obama administration that would strengthen America's strategic position in the middle east and bring defeat to our enemies, than to lose a war!!

Quick poll:

McCain said in 2003 that our Christian, American army would be greeted as liberators by the Iraqis.

Question: Is McCain

A: Stupid
B: A Liar
C: Both

Rat-the,
Are we Inet engaged? Like do I have a connect to the Rat?
Waiting for your intelligent response, RAT!

SNEAKY LITLE BEASTY!!!

Barack, go to your heart!
So what if you are not the people's choice in this cesspool called "AMERICA"?
Stand up, like Malcom, like Ali, be a Man that lived for his freedom!

Posted by: harried | July 3, 2008 8:55 PM
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You should know by now that Obama has no heart.

"I have always said I would listen to the commanders on the ground." - Obama

Now that is a CHANGE from the Bush/Cheney/Rummy knows best mindset.

We need Obama AND Powell to restore our image and alliances.

"I tried to avoid this war. I took him [Bush] through the consequences of going into an Arab country and becoming the occupiers."

"The civil war will ultimately be resolved by a test of arms. It's not going to be pretty to watch, but I don't know any way to avoid it. It is happening now. ... It is not a civil war that can be put down or solved by the armed forces of the United States." - Colin Powell on Iraq

The country is coming apart at the seams -- we are fighting two wars, on the verge of a third, we have skyrocketing oil/gas prices with no end in sight, job losses everywhere, major corporations on the verge of collapse, housing values plumetting, dollar plumetting, etc, etc, etc and McCain is hobnobbing around south of border, pandering to the Columbians and Mexicans. What's the McDope up to?

i guess there are a few less fist bumps going on tonight in the obama camp...

Barack, go to your heart!
So what if you are not the people's choice in this cesspool called "AMERICA"?
Stand up, like Malcom, like Ali, be a Man that lived for his freedom!

SoFt, sQuIsHy, mOlDaBlE, WeAk, FlExIbLe, yIeLdInG, SPINELESS!

What "Changes" will the Jellyfish fron Illinois pull Tomorrow?

God have mercy on this Country if he is in the White House!

"Consultants to the National Republican Congressional Committee are suggesting they avoid the GOP brand in upcoming elections. Traditional Republican messages essentially are not working in this political environment. The consultants found that Republicans are failing to successfully establish themselves and their local brand in contrast to the negative perception of the national GOP."

The GOP brand that abandoned its principles, expanded government and started spending like drunken liberals...now they're paying for it. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it's good for a Party to get whipped once in a while. Did you leftist miss all those stories of the Blue Dogs keeping their distance from the National Party...the same Blue Dogs that are keeping you leftists in the majority.

Bush had 5 years to create this disaster. It may take Obama a few months to fix it.

Barack, go to your heart!
So what if you are not the peoples choice in this cesspool called "AMERICA".

Stand up, like Malcom, like Ali, be a Man that lived for his freedom!

Who says we're supporting McCain. We're simply pointint out the obvious, that Obama is the more fatally flawed candidate - down to the chromosomes.

Obama's indecisions about what he wants to do to our troops in Iraq is largely due to an internal battle between Muslim Barack and Christian Barry. People, please protect our troops from the double personalities of Psycho-bama.

Here's a more significant and more relevant story that should be very troubling to the McLoser supporters:

Consultants to the National Republican Congressional Committee are suggesting they avoid the GOP brand in upcoming elections. Traditional Republican messages essentially are not working in this political environment. The consultants found that Republicans are failing to successfully establish themselves and their local brand in contrast to the negative perception of the national GOP.

Translation: The GOP brand is poopoo.

Imagine if Obama is elected. The Muslims will target him because he is overtly breaking Sharia law. Ooooo, somethin' tells me the sparks are gonna fly.

Barack, go to your heart!
So what if you are not the peoples choice in this cess pool called "AMERICA".

Stand up, like Malcom, like Ali, be a Man that lived for his freedom!

Two press conferences in a short space of time -- the second one to clarify what he said in the first one. Why is this guy the next best thing to Sunami or a messiah who will deliver us from evil? If his base is not outraged by now, they must be a bunch of zombies. Bring back Hillary! At least, we know what she is about, her sniper comments notwithstanding.

Now that you all have calmed down over this non-issue I have another question:

If McCain committed adultery by having an affair with Cindy while he was still married to his first wife why wasn't he court-martialed?

Honest Abe-LOL! :-D

Funny you should say that.

I was trying to figure out if the Dimocrats are running Goofy, or Daffy?! ;~)

"Suffrin Sucatash!"

At the second press conference, Obama said that today's flip-flop was because of a glitch in his tele-prompter.

Of course he has to look at facts on the ground and adjust accordingly. Still he was right on this fiasco from the start. The relevant question is still this:

Who is more likely to pull troops out of Iraq? Obama or McCain. That answer is clearly Obama.

Posted by: RealChoices |
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Are you quite sure? Seems like the bar keeps moving with Obama. What will it be next week. 200 years.
What is his actual stance on the War. Is he "fer" or "agin" it? He says he was "agin" before and then when elected he voted to support it. Damn, if you are "agin" something, fight "agin" it.
To hell with words, show some action.

Meanwhile here is some more dirt on McCain.. from a fellow Republican!

In January, MS Senator Thad Cochran explained his decision to endorse former governor Mitt Romney, R-Mass., thusly: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Cochran told The Boston Globe's Michael Kranish. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

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Maybe Thad will now endorse Obama!

Obama is a part-time Muslim and part-time Christian. He'll switch between allegiance to Alah and God at a moment's notice. Our troops will be slaughtered because of him.

If you all have stopped frothing at the mouth over this non-issue, I have a question: Why hasn't McCain completely released his medical records? He only released a partial subset to a selected group of reporters and then only let them view it for 3 hours. What is he hiding? Many think there are some troubling facts buried in those documents that may effectively disqualify him for POTUS if they became known to the public. We should demand that he unconditionally release his entire medical record. The American people should know what they are getting if they elect John McCain -- warts and all.

Had a discussion, well maybe not a discussion exactly, it was about what Richard believed vs what I dis-belivied!
First hit---Your a friggin Atheist!
Me: Hey, IT's HERE and I can't explain IT! --And Neither can RATZINGER!
Second hit: The Blacks,, they cause problems, especially in 1950 Harlem!
Me: Tell you the truth Blue Eyes, I kinda got a soft spot for BLACKS, my grandfather Octave, was the meanest black man on Cain River!
Third, shrugging of shoulders: Well you don't look BLACK!!
Me: So it's all about looks, eh
BLUE EYES"?

That was like an hour ago, in front of the laundry on Skillman ave, tween 51 and 50 the sts.
BELIEVE ME, RACISM IS HERE,,,,,AND IT"S MOST VIRULEMENT FORM IS BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE!
Karl Rove knows this and will use it!

treetopflyer @ 8:20 well done man. I wish that I had written it myself, LOL. Of course those to whom it is directed will never read it with the "open mind" you mention, but then again, these people have already decided to let Rush, O'Reilly, and Hannity do their thinking for them anyway.

Regardless of what Obama says or does the GOP brand is still toxic. The GOP brand now represents corruption, scandal, lack of ethics, deceit, failure, waste, fraud, abuse and Bush. At this point Donald Duck (D) could BEAT the Republican candidate.

basically a re-statement of already stated directional objectives.

OBAMA -- LEAHY '08

Meanwhlle...

The McCain campaign has added Arizona to its list of 24 "battleground states" with their 242 electoral votes. In a "strategy briefing" video posted Saturday on the McCain campaign website, Rick Davis, the campaign manager, did not include Arizona as one of the 17 "historically Republican states" -- though Arizona has voted Republican in every presidential election but one since 1952.

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Wow. McLoser's home state of Arizona is now a battleground state?!

I'm looking for that first time when Bonehead( his word) says what he means or means what he says. He is like a yoyo.
How can folks still support him.

I guess the old political motto is in effect. "You can't fool all the people all the time, but every four years is enough".

Of course he has to look at facts on the ground and adjust accordingly. Still he was right on this fiasco from the start. The relevant question is still this:

Who is more likely to pull troops out of Iraq? Obama or McCain. That answer is clearly Obama.

I made a prediction in 1999,of my list of predictions, all have come true.If George Bush were elected President, we will;
1| have a terrorist attack happen from beyond our shores of a scale we have never seen in the states before,making OK bombing look like a bad fireworks display.
2| we will be at war with someone (probably Iraq to finish his Daddies Mess) over ambihuous information of threats to the United States
3 | The " Moral Majority" will be stumped into the dark ages by the same people (Bush, Cheney, Rove) who begged and promised for their votes, and turned on them all too quick.
4 | Gas prices will hit high's never before seen on American soil, while the Oil company's and wall street take it to the bank
and one i really thought i was stretching on back then,
5 | homelessness will double from that of the current rates...
Thats the worst of it, but not overshadowing the bashing dealt to our Constitution by Bush, Cheney and Co.Or the continued beating our financials have to endure every day.
One thing is true, this could be dealt with quite quickly, even in as little as a few weeks, our government could trickle crude from our reserves, or keyed down active wells , and stop the financial bloodletting Bush, McCain and his Cronies are doing, but we sit here and squabble about what Barak might or might not do in 7 months from here..
1 things for sure, McCain wont change a thing, wont try to tide the ever growing Profit oil is making off a sickly exagggerated oil situation,wont try to stop our troops Dying for no cause, and he certainly will not support our troops when they get home.Sounds an awfull lot like whats happening today?? well, it is, so if you like it , keep pinning McCain up, but if you really are tired of the same game , new name, Then move over for Obama,at the very least.
I would never ask anyone to vote for someone their not 100 percent behind, but why are you so sure 50percent McCain is the man for the job?? He's 75, over due to retire, and has the ideals of zealots

The change we can believe in is the changing of his mind whenever it's politically convenient. What a change agent!

It's all part of his long, long, long journey to the center now that he has the leftists wrapped around his finger.

I gotta fix this:
""To me, it proves that Obama's will be a prudent Presidency based on contemporanious FACTS as opposed to the carelessness"

Exactly what FACTS have changed since the primaries?"
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Are you saying that the situation in Iraq hasn't changed, or won't change, or indeed doesn't change weekly?

It must have been a slow news day. I hear nothing from Obama to yield the headline to this article. It is amazing to me that so many people can jump on word choice as a clear departure from a former statement. Keep you focus on McCain and his declarations that his previous statements were not made by him. When faced with his previous statements, McCain almost seems shocked, maybe not he made them, but that they are actually on videotape or audio. McCain obviously has not caught up with the new technology, and we want him as President? Now, let's talk about the real qualifications for President.

*** INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL REPUBLICAN COVERT CYBERAGENTS ***
*** SPECIAL DIRECTIVES FROM KARL ROVE ***
*** THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF ONLINE FORUM WARS ***

1. Mercilessly criticize your opponent and his followers on any and all positions. What they are is not important. Whether they make sense or not is not important. The only thing that is important is to discredit your opponent and his followers. If reality interferes with this goal, disregard reality.

2. Exaggerate your opponents flaws. Or just invent them. Minimize your candidate's. Or just ignore them.

3. Yell loud about nothing (flag pin, nose scratch, birth certificate). Stay silent about anything that matters (war, economy, paygo, imperial presidency, corruption). If all else fails, post with endless white space to knock your opponents off the first page of comments.

4. If your opponent sticks to his positions, call him stupid and intransigent. If your candidate sticks to his positions, call him principled.

5. If your opponent modifies his views in response to the facts, call him a flip-flopper. If your candidate modifies his views in response to the facts, call him a realist.

6. If your opponent offers a nuanced view, such as saying he's for a certain thing but his final decision will be made based on the facts on the ground, ignore it. Pretend he never said it. That way when he does make his decision based on the facts on the ground you can accuse him of flip-flopping.

7. Never admit you could be wrong.

8. Never admit your opponent could be right.

9. Never shut your mouth long enough to open your mind.

10. Never, ever ask if there isn't something better you could be doing with your time.

IT'S NOT ABOUT WHO'S RIGHT!
IT'S ABOUT WHO WINS!

*** END TRANSMISSION ***
*** END TRANSMISSION ***
*** TRANSMISSION ACCOMPLISHED ***

Me suit up? You're kiddingg, right?

"Obama has no idea how to formulate thoughts and express those thoughts coherently. There is nothing brilliant
about this guy he is over his head. "
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And the alternative to Obama is John, I don't know much about economics, McCain? Are you saying that McCain is brillant and expresses himself brillantly (although frankly McCain's speeches are so deadly boring I find my mind drifting when he is speaking, for all I know he could be saying something of significance, but I wouldn't bet on it)...Hey I have an idea, maybe Obama can give Johnny Freeride teleprompter reading lessons, LOL.

harried: My Momma is fine. How's yours these days? Did you ever find out which one was your father?

I guess you just can not beat Karl Rove!
He's a bottom feeder that knows his food!
And here I present a slug --
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Flip-flop, flip-flop. You call that change?
Posted by: JimmyO | July 3, 2008 8:06 PM
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Hey JimmyO, how's yo mamma?

Looks like Barack will say anything and do anything to get elected. Once he is elected, he will simply be PRESENT and let the 'status quo ante' prevail. Do the liberal voters feel cheated? If not, they are as clueless as the administration that they are trying to unseat. Bring Hillary back, and send Obama to where he belongs: South side of Chicago where he can 'organize' more community events and where he can go to Trinity Church all over again.

Well I still trust the guy. Iraq is a difficult situation. I will give him some leaway on this. BTW, McCain is still a semi-senile doddering old fool.

Wow. whoever wrote this article, and the headline for it, should be fired and sent back to high school. It's an attempt to create a flip flop where there is none. Read the quotes. Obama is not "softening" anything. This article is garbage. Trash. Where is the big change? Where's the quote that so radically different from what he said today?

Nowhere.

This article is trash. Shameful trash. All it does is stir up the idiot wingnuts, who should be trying to find the recruiter's office so they can go fight in Iraq.

There is no flip to flop here, no story to add to , just more distraction from repugnants who know they have no chance of counting this election, unless you all want to vote for a real Leader, Mr. Obama!!!
Another good reason, and one im sure he's not willing to discuss with anyone right now, is that we, AMERICA, have a vested interest in IRAQ now, to the tune of Trillions by the time its done..Wanna see a neat trick, watch as BHO fixes our oil Ails, one quick sweep through Iraq and Afghan, take control of the OIL thats Spilling on the ground there. Would you like your ANTI Obama selves then??

I guess you just can not beat Karl Rove!
He's a bottom feeder that knows his food!

Flip-flop, flip-flop. You call that change?

Look, this is a Politician that has taken "EXPERT" advice, and now I really start to worry!