On the Issues
McCain Responds to Maliki's Call for an Iraq Withdrawal Timetable
By Michael D. Shear
Sen. John McCain, who has repeatedly derided anyone who advocated a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, now suddenly finds himself in a political box as the American-backed Iraqi leadership yesterday raised the prospect of exactly that.
For the first time on Monday, Iraqi President Nouri al-Maliki said in a statement from his office that the two countries should consider deciding the future of American troops with "a memorandum of understanding to put a timetable on their withdrawal."
McCain was silent on the comments Monday. But today, his top foreign policy adviser declined to criticize Maliki or distance McCain from him. And they sought to portray Maliki's comments as consistent with the Republican nominee's long-standing position.
"Senator McCain has always said that conditions on the ground -- including the security threats posed by extremists and terrorists, and the ability of Iraqi forces to meet those threats -- would be key determinants in U.S. force levels," said adviser Randy Scheunemann, who criticized Sen. Barack Obama's "constantly shifting positions" on Iraq.
But McCain's position on the question of a specific timetable for withdrawal has been shifting as the candidate moved from the Republican primary into the general election.
In speeches, town hall meetings, interviews and campaign commercials, McCain has said a timetable would provide terrorists the knowledge of how long they have to wait until American troops are gone. He has repeatedly said that setting a date for withdrawal would lead to "chaos, genocide and we will be back with greater sacrifice."
His rhetoric has been withering and aimed at both Democrats and Republicans. During the waning days of the GOP primary, he eviscerated former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney for a comment that McCain said amounted to support for a timetable.
Romney disputed that, but the damage to his candidacy was unmistakable. Later, McCain turned his fire on Democrats, including Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton, accusing them of endangering Americans by advocating a specific timetable for withdrawal.
"It would be an unconscionable act of betrayal, a stain on our character as a great nation, if we were to walk away from the Iraqi people and consign them to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing and possibly genocide that would follow a reckless, irresponsible and premature withdrawal," he said in a California speech.
In that speech, McCain offered his "vision" for 2013, by which time he said most of the troops would be gone from Iraq. That was quickly seen by many observers as a timetable for withdrawal by that date.
But immediately after the speech, McCain disputed the idea that he was setting a firm date for withdrawal of troops from Iraq, telling reporters that he is "promising that we will succeed in Iraq" but not promising that troops will come home if that success has not materialized.
"I'm not putting a date on it. It could be next month. It could be next year," he told reporters on the Straight Talk Express bus. "I said by the end of my first term we will have succeeded in Iraq.... This is what I want to achieve. This is what I believe is achievable."
McCain fought Democratic attempts in Congress to legislate the withdrawal of troops. And he famously said troops might be in Iraq for as long as 100 years, though he says that referred to a Korea-like presence, not active fighting like that occurring now.
On Tuesday, McCain's campaign declined to respond directly to the question of whether he now supports the idea of setting a date for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country.
Speaking on MSNBC Tuesday morning, McCain said that "The fact is that we and the Iraqis will deal in what is in the national security interests of both countries. And there is no reason to assume that the Iraqis aren't going to act in what they perceive as their national
interest. I believe we will enact ours and I believe we will all come home."
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Posted by: G00ner | July 13, 2008 11:40 AM
AMERICA!
Do you know the difference between Defense Minister and President of Iraq?
If you Don't that is sad!
DO NOT watch TV, just for MCCAIN, you'll live longer...
Look at a Democratic Congress...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080709/pl_politico/11617;_ylt=AmNw7uVD1o3nN1S_abHbZbYb.3QA
Remember this meeting?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iraq
WAKE UP!!!
Posted by: Not a Pawn to Obama Con | July 9, 2008 2:01 PM
McSame seems unable to comprehend the now established fact that the Iraqi Government will dictate a timetable for the withdrawal of our troops, not "conditions on the ground". And, I guess we now have to lump the Iraqi Government with those who were called various names by McSame because they called for a timetable for withdrawal. McSame is now caught between a rock and a hard place from which even Karl Rove's liars cannot extract him.
Posted by: caliguy55 | July 9, 2008 11:43 AM
Michael,
You are being misleading when you say that McCain is put into a "political box". McCain's support of a troop presence in Iraq was always conditioned on the Iraqi government's approval of that presence, just like with any other country where we have troop presences. As for withdrawals, McCain has also said as early as 2004 that if the legitimate Iraqi government tells us to leave, then we should.
Posted by: Charles Bird | July 9, 2008 11:36 AM
Now that the Iraqi leadership is touting a timetable, it is obvious to all that we are no longer wanted there, officially. Maliki has done this for all the world to see, to increase pressure to force a withdrawal. Whether we agree and leave, and this brings chaos to Iraq is the central issue that must be decided if the next administration refuses to comply with what seems to be the Iraqi consensus that we depart.
Worst of all, we may leave Iraq worse than before, because if our leaving means chaos, we have caused the anarchy and whatever civil war or strife may occur, all in a crooked attempt to get the Decider's Dad's enemy. Bush, Cheney and his military sycophants used and vouchsafed all hook and crook to start this war, tying Saddam to the 9-11 terrorists by using all flim-flam evidence, lack of evidence and any shred of possibility as dead certainty -- all because they were hellbent on getting Saddam. And the result so far -- an utter mess -- corresponds to the means by they brought about this war, poetic justice, to be sure.
But I do not trust the current top brass and now McCain, since his embrace of Bush Iraq policy, to make the right decisions. This whole affair has been run by malfeasance, characterized with sycophant catering by the military to the Bush-Cheney hard right wing bluster. For more on the generals and their lack of backbone in the face of the hard truth, see my blog, http://www.wrathofmcgrath.com
Posted by: Jim McGrath | July 9, 2008 10:11 AM
the only thing that i can say is BUSHED! hey mcsame what do you think of that! the iraqi`s want us to hit the road jack and don`t you come back no more no more no more! HIT THE ROAD JACK!
Posted by: GSGGRIGSBY | July 9, 2008 12:46 AM
McCain and his campaign look a lot like the Keystone Cops right about now. This is hilarious!
Posted by: GOP08_DOA | July 9, 2008 12:06 AM
Allow me to be the First to call for a RE-PAYMENT Timetable.
Say, $One Trillion per Year.
Mahmoud, the Persian Lap-Doggie of Putin's, should be able to help-Since HE and his MASTER, Khamenei, want us gone so bad! :-)
Ohhh, sorry!
That is more than all the Land and Investments in Iran are Worth isn't it! ;~)
My Bad!
Posted by: SAINT---The | July 8, 2008 10:54 PM
So now Maliki has drank "THE LION'S MILK"
demanding a timetable for US troops withdrawal. If I believe that I'll believe anything.
Maliki cannot survive a single day without the protection of US troops.All his
talk is for local consumption to win the upcoming provincial elections.The fact that
he was snubbed by the US shows who is really in charge in Iraq.
Is there anybody who still even think
that the US will leave Iraq and its OIL?
Why the devil did it invade Iraq for after all?
The US will NEVER leave Iraq,and Maliki
will have to swallow his words.
Posted by: Mubdir Al-khudhair | July 8, 2008 10:16 PM
So now Maliki has drank "THE LION'S MILK"
demanding a timetable for US troops withdrawal. If I believe that I'll believe anything.
Maliki cannot survive a single day without the protection of US troops.All his
talk is for local consumption to win the upcoming provincial elections.The fact that
he was snubbed by the US shows who is really in charge in Iraq.
Is there anybody who still even think
that the US will leave Iraq and its OIL?
Why the devil did it invade Iraq for after all?
The US will NEVER leave Iraq,and Maliki
will have to swallow his words.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 10:01 PM
Obama flip flops on Iraq.
Obama voted against timetables in the senate.
Obama said he wouldn't listen to the generals in a pennsylvania debate now says he will.
Obama said withdrawl wouldn't be based on stability now says it will.
Obama said don't bring the troops home and argued against setting a timetable when he was running for the senate.
MALIKI SAID WITHDRAWAL WOULD BE BASED ON CONDITIONS.
CONDITIONS. MCCAIN SAID HE WILL WITHDRAW U.S TROOPS AS IRAQIS TAKE OVER. THAT IS WHAT MALIKI SAID.
WITHDRAWAL IS BASED ON IRAQIS TAKING PROVINCES OVER.
WE HAVE TURNED OVER 10 OF 18 IRAQI PROVINCES.
WE ARE TURNING OVER MORE IRAQI PROVINCES.
WE ARE TURNING OVER ANBAR PROVINCE VERY SOON TO THE IRAQIS.
WITHDRAWAL IS BASED ON FACTS ON THE GROUND NOT ON OBAMA MAKING UP A DATE OUT OF THIN AIR FOR HIS POLITICAL FUTURE.
OBAMA HATES THIS COUNTRY. HE WENT TO WRIGHT'S CHURCH AND NODDED IN AGREEMENT ABOUT THE HATRED OF THIS COUNTRY.
AMERICA WILL NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT HATES AMERICA AS MUCH AS OBAMA.
REZKO, WRIGHT, OBAMA, FATHER PFLEGER ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS NATION.
OBAMA GOT A SWEETHEART LAND DEAL WHEN REZKO WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION.
OBAMA IS A LYING FRAUD.
Posted by: Steve | July 8, 2008 6:04 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFrFIFizkU
Here is Obama saying don't bring troops home.
Here is Obama arguing against an artifical timetable.
It turns out Obama is a first rate liar.
Obama voted against a time table in the senate.
Posted by: Steve | July 8, 2008 5:57 PM
Maliki said it was based on the conditions on the ground.
Maliki said it was based on turning over areas to the iraqis.
Obama voted in the senate against any timetable.
Obama when he was running for the senate said don't bring any troops home.
Bringing troops home is based on turning areas over to the iraqi military.
Withdrawal is a gradual process of turning over provinces to the iraqis. We have turned over 10 of the 18 provinces. We are about to turn over anbar province to the iraqis.
Withdrawal is a gradual process. We can withdrawal 5 brigades a year not an artificial deadline of 60 days after an election.
Obama when he was running for the senate said don't bring any troops home.
Obama has no military experience. Obama is not qualified to be president.
Obama first said he wouldn't listen to the generals now says he will. Obama first said withdrawal wouldn't have to do with stability now he says it will.
Obama says he will end the war but then says he will keep troops there to go after al queda, stay at the embassy and train iraqis.
Obama is all over the map. Obama's top foreign policy advisor said it was all politics and that he would keep 80,000 troops in Iraq.
Obama is a serial liar. If it was up to Obama the thugs would still be ruling in basra.
Obama wanted to leave basra in the hands of the madhi army.
The iraqi military has now taken over in basra, sadr city and mosul.
McCain showed great courage in fighting for the surge so the iraqis could take over then our troops can come home.
McCain wants to turn over areas to the iraqis and bring our troops home.
Posted by: Steve | July 8, 2008 5:55 PM
I guess the U.S. can just declare Maliki a terrorist sympathizer and ignore him. After all, we own Iraq...right. Iraq is not a sovereign country, otherwise, we should have been kicked out once Maliki was "elected."
Wait, oh I get it. We are holding the Iraqi government hostage behind the green zone. That is why we can chose to ignore their will, no matter what they think is best for their country. Either way, McCain, I cannot wait for your spin on being asked to get the F**K out of Iraq. Oh, shove your victory up Bush's **s.
Posted by: Tunde | July 8, 2008 5:44 PM
NeoCon, that was so good.
Do the idiots at the fake news organizations we have today, really think no one will notice we are leaving IRAQ? For the past 10 years I have wondered if they (MSM) ever read what they have printed, or have listened to, the gobbily-goop nonsense they spew at us on TV. Lets face it people. The U.S. military has presided over and contributed to the largest genocide and theft of a PEOPLE, since the Nazi controlled extermination of the Jews during WWII.
Right now we are fighting the Iraqi citizens who are defending their country from an occupying force. If McCain and chuckle-nuts buSh think that the Iraqi's or the Muslim world will forget or forgive us for the horrors we have inflicted upon so many innocent people in the past 7 years they are grossly mistaken. The neo-cons, buSh, cheNey, the MIC and the MSM have played the good people of America like fools. This was all for oil and now the region is so volatile that we will be told we have to protect the oil we have stolen. This all part of the plan to keep the MIC overflowing with our tax dollars. Every American should be infuriated, because these greedy bastards have put our children and grandchildren in danger and have enslaved them into paying off an astronomically huge debt that continues to multiply.
This is why we must exit Iraq as soon as possible and try to right the wrongs we have inflicted, there, and upon the many other underprivileged peoples of the world. We must hold this administration accountable for all the lives they have ended and destroyed. All the laws they have broken and the sadness they have caused for millions upon millions of people. If not, we won't be able to move forward in a positive way. This is what I think Obama is trying to get across, I hope. But it will take a combined effort all of us to do it.
Posted by: MASI | July 8, 2008 5:21 PM
Looks like Maliki has a lot more balls that our Senators do....
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 4:47 PM
Sorry republicans...looks like Obama had the right idea all long for dealing with Iraq....and McCain was dead wrong as always. But I bet republicans are so petty, they won't accept the truth even if was staring them down the face, as in this situation.
Posted by: Playa | July 8, 2008 4:45 PM
I love it! I guess the Iraqis are advocating genocide? McCain is in trouble on this one. Score a big point for Obama!
Posted by: Bwaaa Haaa Haaa Haaa | July 8, 2008 4:28 PM
This is another strawman. McCain has never had a problem with an Iraqi timetable. He did not want the US congress to set a timetable based on political expedience that would have abandoned Iraq to certain civil chaos, genocide and abject failure of Pol Pot magnitude. He has also said that we are there at the behest of the Iraqi government. If the security situation has improved such that they decide they don't want us there anymore then we can pull right on out. I think we're just a political foil right now and, in the interest of political reconciliation, letting the defeated al-Sadr save a little face by demanding a timetable doesn't hurt our interests at all. It's much better to resolve now rather than have an Ireland-like IRA fiasco between the government and Sadr's fringe followers over the next 50 years.
Posted by: JimmyH | July 8, 2008 4:11 PM
In my humble opinion, McCain needs to "win" in Iraq to seek "victory" as a substitute for the war he sacrificed so much for...and many others too...some 58,000. What was that all for.
A did anyone see ADM Mullen in his "Army" Iraq uniform today. Did he look "funny" with the Kevlar in such a way as to look like he (Mullen) just got out of basic.
DOD need an Army or Marine Chief of Staff to understand the dynamics of ground warfare and sustainment. Driving ships is just not a fine point for those of us who have served in Iraq...or Afghanistan for that matter.
Posted by: LTC US Army | July 8, 2008 4:04 PM
"Nouri al-Maliki & Arab Leaders,
Before you ASK USA for a time -table for withdrawal of US troops
Pl give USA :-
a Time-Table for ending Terrorism and jihadism.
a Time-Table for "hate america" speeches.
a Time-Table for ending bomb blasts, ending violence, ending hate against non-muslims....
more in next email"
First off, it is THEIR country not ours. Secondly, terrorism will NEVER end, we are subjected to terrorists in America (ok city bombing???) and their are terrorists ALL OVER the world. These were not started in Iraq, nor will they end in Iraq.
Thirdly, a "timetable for hate America speeches"...Are you stupid? Get out of this country since you obviously believe nobody has the right to free speech. I can make a "hate america speech" right here in Dallas and that is my RIGHT. Lastly, violence will never stop. Your views are admirable albeit, misguided as they have very little to do with Iraq.
I'm extremely happy the Iraqi government finally grew a pair and spoke up saying they want us out of there. Maybe it's the impending "no-bid" contracts going to these oil companies....And all you republicans look like fish-out-of-water now. Somebody else said it...your party is going down...Mccain is going down. Whether Obama and the dems can right the wrongs remains to be seen.....
Posted by: PhiLLy in DaLLaS | July 8, 2008 3:52 PM
al-Maliki just torpedoed McCain on Iraq.
When even the Iraqi "government" is insisting on a timetable, it really makes McCain's position look absurd. So let him mock Obama for it. 70%+ of the American people and of course Iraqis agree Obama!
Posted by: Shawn | July 8, 2008 3:52 PM
Earth to ol' grandpa McCain,"THE IRAQIS WANT THE TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ". Too bad grandpa McCain is senile, and doesn't hear the Iraqis. He wants to keep the troops in Iraq for 100 years.
Posted by: Paul | July 8, 2008 3:47 PM
Sorry Iraqis....it's not your decision whether the U.S. Troops get to leave your country. The oil companies told grandpa McCain that they want all your oil and that the U.S. troops have to remain in Iraq, so you're outta luck. Grandpa McCain cares more about the oil executives than about you, the troops or even the average American.
Posted by: Playa | July 8, 2008 3:36 PM
Look at McCain. He looks old with that big lump under his chin and on the side of his face. He sounds old. His teeth are yellow they're so old. His ideas are olds. The hippies of the 60's??
Give this man a rocking chair and a blanket!
Posted by: carolinagirl | July 8, 2008 3:30 PM
Let's leave Iraq now...let them kill each other. If the terrorists act up - we bomb them back to the stone age with neutron bombs - which saves the oil and infrastructure and just kill terrorists.
Posted by: Daddio on the Paddio | July 8, 2008 3:14 PM
Looks like McCain is showing symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
Posted by: MsSwin | July 8, 2008 3:13 PM
Jackal,
Washington was a plantation slave-owner and the richest man in America. He wouldn't care what we thought.
Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | July 8, 2008 3:10 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama open up an even larger lead in light of recent events, and remarks made by Mr. Maliki & the leadership within Iraq. Note to Michael Shear: Nouri Kamal al-Maliki is the Prime Minister, not the President. This is shaping up to look like the latter days of the Korean War, when Eisenhower could credibly sign a ceasefire, effectively ending the Korean War. Honestly, sixteen months, or at most, thirty months is ample time to wrap this up in Iraq. If they don't want us there, then we must respect their sovereignty. Republicans are foot-in-mouth right now because they listened to Bush and Rove say, "NO TIMETABLE!!! NEVER!!!!! TERRORISM!!! WE'LL TELL YOU WHEN IT'S OVER!!! Well, guess what Republicans? The Iraqis grew a pair and they're telling you they, TOO, want a timetable. It's always rewarding when Republicans are proven dead wrong! Your party is going down in November; John McCain is going down in November, and it's for the best. Your party must "refine" its platform, which I read is currently the subject of some bitter infighting between the moderate and conservative wings of the party. Maybe the moderates will grow a pair and take it back from their idiotic faux conservative wing. But that's dubious. The moderates are all indians. The conservatives are the only chiefs in that party, and as you can see they make awful leaders.
Good News for America!
Level-headed People 1, Fascists 0.
New York, NY
Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | July 8, 2008 3:07 PM
We need new leadership at all levels. Both political parties SUCK and are only self-serving. They have ignored the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, etc. They re-write laws to fit their money sucking agenda. Neither cares about the 'have nots'. Neither adhears to the fundamental ideals that this country was founded on. If George Washinton and his fellow patriots were alive, we'd see another revolution. And that's exactly what we need. Real change only comes thru violent opposition. And that's a fact you can see in any history book from any country.
Posted by: JACKAL | July 8, 2008 3:02 PM
Nouri al-Maliki & Arab Leaders,
Before you ASK USA for a time -table for withdrawal of US troops
Pl give USA :-
a Time-Table for ending Terrorism and jihadism.
a Time-Table for "hate america" speeches.
a Time-Table for ending bomb blasts, ending violence, ending hate against non-muslims....
more in next email
Posted by: simple human | July 8, 2008 2:54 PM
Time table. Obama doesn't know his times tables. He can't wait tables.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 2:49 PM
Dear American Voters, reporters, media. professionals, political parties, and our hon. Presidential Nominees,
Subject: Presidential Temperament
Please talk about and "Compare And Contrast" the " Presidential Temperament" of our Presidential presumptive nominees. I will also request and plead to the nominees themselves [ Hon. Senator McCain and Obama ].
Our nation has been applying this yard and stick tor the appointments and confirmation process of our Supreme Court Justices nominees.
Our Greatgrand Nation Foundations are as under:
Family, friends, fellows, faith, funds, fun, with fairness & freedom And without fear, favor, and failure.
It will be disgrace and shameful if the nominees and media will not look into this critical and crucial aspect under current challenging times and circumstances within our country and all around the Globe.
America wake up and the discuss the " Presidential Temperament" of our presumptive presidential nominee's [ Hon. Senator McCain and Obama].
Yours sincerely,
COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret].
Disabled American Veteran
Forensic psychiatrist, Las Vegas, Nevada
Posted by: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] | July 8, 2008 2:41 PM
If the Iraqis set a time table we will have
no choice but to leave. They are a sovereign
nation--at least that is what Bush says.
Posted by: Independentpol | July 8, 2008 2:38 PM
We just can't set a timetable! That just tells the terrorists how long they have to wait. No, our plan is to pick a secret date and sneak 130,000-150,000+ soldiers out of Iraq under the cover of night. When the sun comes up, we'll be gone with nothing to indicate we'd ever been there. Except democracy. And foreign oil companies. The extremists will be so amazed that we're gone that they'll convert to Christianity on the spot.
Posted by: NeoCon | July 8, 2008 2:21 PM
The problem is, we don't know to what extent our presents adds to the problems on the ground. Just us leaving may be the biggest thing we could do to correct things.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 2:20 PM
Right but according to the idiotic Washington press core Obama changed his position?
Obama wants to begin withdeaw.
McCain wants to stay for 100 years, but wants to be out by his first term, but says a time table is defeat, but says he agrees with Maliki's call for a time table.
The question is will the media do anything more than casually mention how ridiculous McCain Iraq policy is. My guess is that the media bias will continue.
Posted by: Julian | July 8, 2008 2:16 PM
Sorry, but my master, Karl Rove, does not allow me to do timetables yet. Maybe next year...
Posted by: John McCain | July 8, 2008 2:04 PM
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"McCain has also said as early as 2004 that if the legitimate Iraqi government tells us to leave, then we should."
At this point, the corrupt Iraqi government is the only one not wanting us to leave.