Support Al Gore? And what? Kerry as VP. Brilliant!

If Talent's going to win so easily, why does he trail Claire McCaskill in all the polls?

Just to set the record straight, Bob Casey is currently treasurer of Pennsylvania, not auditor. He served a maximum two terms as auditor general, then switched to the office of treasurer last year. It's easy to overlook the difference between the two offices. Both are used in Pennsylvania politics to groom candidates for the governorship and the Senate.

In sports, as it happens a player post the numbers and shows potential unlimited.As happens it does not show in time to suit the the team that banked on the potential,in fact the player is categorized as a loss,than sold.Another team picks up the player and in the team play the short commings are filtered out ,the player comes on in field play like gangbusters.Hitting,, fielding and posting big numbers ,so than what was really lacking? I would say the necessary elements. I,am glad some people stay up late at night to bring in the news.It.s still too early to tell right now,though the game is indeed in play.2008

With regard to Jim Talent's race in Missouri...he will win easily for reasons we Missourians understand well. You have to show us here in the Show Me State that he does not deserve to be re-elected. Most folks think he does and appreciate his hard work for the country. He'll be back.

Al Gore may well have lost thousands of crucial votes when he rolled his eyes, shook his head, and sighed audibly during the first debate while Junior was blithering.

Bill Clinton, when not thinking with the wrong head, was good at disguising his intelligence, or at least not flaunting it.

Nobody here probably remembers how gore was beaten to death by MSM for the things he never said and how they projected Bush as an outsider messiah who is so likable that you will be happy to have him in your living room or something like that. It wasn't all Gore's mistakes, but the media did not let him win bec. they wanted to have Bush in the white house.
And even before the Iraq war started, Gore specifically criticisized the Administration for divreting attention from war on terror. Here is the link
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html
So before anyone try to trash him, check your facts, Al gore may not be the best manipulator of media, but as a politician he is one of the best statesman the US can get in the foreseeable future.

"Prup": "Gore's performance in 2000 was so bad"

Clinton's sexual escapade
handicapped Gore by big deficits is polls, among other factors.

"and his clownish demeanor"

You realize that you are being a HACK here, don't you?

"he'd make a Great Sec. of Energy"

No thanks. No such express generosity is warranted.

"I'd like to see Feingold"

You didn't earn many new friends for Feingold with your negative post. Sorry.

As any loyal Fix reader knows, nominating Jimmy Carter would make more sense in 2008 than Al Gore.

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As someone who has voted Democratic since the 1968 election, even for the egregious Dukakis, I will vote for whoever is nominated. As someone who wants my party to WIN, I hope this isn't Gore, Hilary, or the horrifying Lieberman. Gore's performance in 2000 was so bad -- he never should have been in the Florida mess -- and his clownish demeanor will have people turning off to the good things he does have to say -- he'd make a Great Sec. of Energy. Hilary would bring several million Republicans to the polls who might otherwise sit out, just to defeat her. And as for Joe, if I wanted to vote Republican, I would. I don't.

I'd like to see Feingold, whose willing to take strong positions and DEFEND them. I'd settle for Bayh or Edwards.

As Chairperson of Patriots for Al Gore, (a grassroots organization that is not connected to the Honorable Al Gore) I do not believe that Al Gore should run for President in 2008 and have delineated that position in a letter I wrote to him recently, because I and our group truly care about him and also support his current endeavors. We also believe and know he won the election of 2000, and have been advocating for a Constitutional remedy to be provided by Congress regarding possibly "restoring" the term to him that was stolen from him, our country, and our people. More about that can be found on our website at http://www.patriotsforgore.com.

My position regarding this topic may seem hard to understand, because to some if you say you support him you have to support this prognostication. Well, sorry, that is wrong. So let me explain for those who do not think on a level above political and don't seem to see Mr. Gore as a human being and one with a family and a life, some of why I feel as I do.

For anyone to understand where Mr. Gore is coming from now, I believe you must understand the pain he went through in 2000. This wasn't just any election that was lost. This was an election won, and stolen by those who are still being allowed by the very same people who also now clamor for Gore to continue their reign of terror in this country. And that includes the Democratic Party leadership that has only in this election year decided to even hint at having a backbone.

This was an event in his life that shook his very soul I am sure, and forced him to reflect and reevaluate what is important in life. I believe he has emerged from that American tragedy as a man who does see that importance, and has decided to devote his life to those things that are important such as facing global warming. I truly don't believe that unless you too have gone through a cathartic experience in your life that you can even begin to understand what an experience like that does to change your life, your priorities, and make you see so many things clearer than you did before.

As a man who was a part of the DC beltway society for so many years, perhaps the 2000 coup also opened his eyes to so much more regarding what and who really controls the apparatus of Washington DC, and he has also then worked on a way to circumvent that apparatus (Current TV being the prime example) without having to give up the freedom he has to express himself as the man he always wished to show to the world...The freedom you still don't have completely as a member of the elitist DC beltway. He is a success in that regard now, and also in his vocal advocacy for our planet and we are very pleased with that.

Only, so many of those who claim to "support" him don't seem to see any of that as important. They only trivialize it, and use it to link it to what they find to be more suited to their own desire for excitement and a "glamorous" campaign that is only taking place in their own minds, while the world passes them by and the current regime lays the groundwork for their continued invasion of the Middle East now.

I then in good conscience cannot support people who did not support Mr. Gore and this country when he and America needed to be supported the most... before it got to the point where those who hijacked this government now have the power to lower the boom on us completely. 2004 was the year we should all have taken to the streets Ukranian style to demand that Al Gore be placed on the ballot. We should have done more than that. We should have marched to Washington DC and demanded he be placed in the office he won! We (our PAC) did our best then and in 2004, but unfortunately, the status quo is just too big for a small group of grassroots Americans out here not considered part of the apparatus.

Therefore, we didn't do that en masse. We didn't stand up to the status quo as a whole in 2000 or in 2004. Many preferred to just stay comfy in their chairs blogging, talking, and complaining about it instead of doing something to stand up to the status quo they now want Al Gore to reenter to "save them." How ironic. And they now call for him without remorse. Without asking for forgiveness for how they abandoned the Constitution as well. Without seeing the reality of the situation.

The reality of the situation for me then is this:

Our government is already bought and paid for by special interests, secret societies, lobbies, AIPAC, PNAC,the IMF, CFR, and any other corporate or political organization you can think of that serves their own interests over those of the American people. Tell me that hold will be completely gone by 2008.

The Democratic Party in many ways is just as much into benefitting from the above as the Republican Party is. Tell me that is going to change by 2008. Tell me the DLC holds absolutely no sway in who the candidate is going to be. Tell me there is going to be an uprising to run the DLC out of the Democratic Party. Tell me Howard Dean will actually buck the system and find his voice to stand up to it, with all of those clamoring for Gore now joining in.

Our voting process is rigged and corrupt. Eighty percent of all of our votes are counted by corporations beholding to Congressional members and the current majority party. Tell me that corporations will be completely out of this process by 2008. Tell me that there will be no political influence in the buying and selling of votes and policy. Tell me that votes will be counted fairly, by hand, in public by 2008.

If you can't tell me yes to any of those things and aren't willing to really get up to change that now, what is the point of all of this?

You see, it is so glamorous to prognosticate. It is so glamorous to make people think it is going to be so easy in this system. However, it is also deceitful and disingenous as well. And I didn't even go into the character assassination, the media blitz, the spotlight on all Mr. Gore ever did his entire life being dragged up all over again, etc. And of course the "he's too fat" talk. Also, there is the fact that his family may not wish for him to go through this again because of 2000... because of that status quo... And yes, because of those who were nowhere to be found when this country needed them to stand up to stop Bush before all of this happened.

I don't have faith in those who say it will be done this time, because they failed us the last time and are playing it the same this time. All I see are political opportunists using all Mr. Gore does as political fodder. And to me it demeans all the work he has done on a crucial issue facing our very survival. Perhaps that is why at a global warming presentation he did at Drew Univerisity last week, his staff asked that no questions be asked of him about any political future. Perhaps even he is tiring of all of this factless baseless prognostication just to sell papers. Perhaps he is tiring of people dismissing his work simply to use him as a prop against Hillary Clinton.

I don't know, but it is really such a shame to see that the only way people seem to give a damn about his efforts regarding global warming these days in the political sphere, is if they can attach a bloody presidential run in a corrupted system to it. But then, why should I even be surprised about that, and perhaps he realizes that to let this prognostication go on only brings people to the issue. It shouldn't be that way, but that seems to be the nature of it all in this country.

Mr. Gore is a good man doing a good thing now based on its merits, and we at Patriots for Al Gore support his endeavors and him. And should he never run for office ever again, we will continue to support him just as vigorously, and even more so, because he will have proven that you don't have to sell your soul to make a difference in this country and this world.

Thank you,
Jan Moore
Chairperson,
Patriots for Al Gore

Gore YES

Kerry NO. Kerry is a buffoon and a complete loser, waste of time, and yesterday's news.

Gore is our only chance. He is the one talking about the relevant issues.

...and George W. Bush is the worst President that was ever selected, unelected.

Al Gore is the greatest President America never had...
yet.

Gore/Clinton 2008 - global warming solutions, balanced budgets, and no more frickin LIES!

Sometimes the world comes around to us. Maybe it's Gore's turn. He certainly deservies it.

Gore is the one! He deserves another chance, after all we all know he won in 2000.He would bring the party together like no other and finally something would get done about global warming and stem cells. He is not currently in the Senate which bodes badly for the ones who are.No Irag votes to get in the way.A fresh start is what the Dems need.

Gore and Kerry may have learned from past mistakes but that does not mean voters forgive or forget. They may not all remember the details like we do, but they remember they lost and there was a reason for that.

High profile losses are difficult to overcome, which is why it does not often happen and usually takes several years to recede into voters memories. Because Gore's was the most high profile loss of the century and Kerry's just happened, I doubt either is viable. The only thing Gore has going for him is that he actually won the popular vote.

Lets have a Gore/Clinton ticket and take back the White House.They could get us out of the mess we are in now.

Gore/Obama '08.

As a former campaign staffer in 1988, I applaud the Vice-President and hope he listens to his heart nad not the consultants. I also hope he does not ruin a good thing and run. Gore still can get media attention and play the role of respected party elder. He still needs to help build the democratic party in his former home-state adn nationwide. Thats what the repub's are doing and we need to so it too. Immigation also needs to addressed in a civil, thoughtful way.

Mark, this goes to my previous comments (I think last week) that people can and often do learn from their mistakes. I think former Vice President Gore has learned--as has Sen. Kerry as well.

Also, I second (or is that third?) the comments on the environment as an issue for him. I think that the environment issue will play very well with suburban voters and, as was stated, former Vice President Gore is very knowledgeable on this issue. But no matter which democrat runs, that needs to be a key issue for us.

I will support Gore again if he stays out front like he is doing now in his public speeches. Where was this guy in 2000? I like the current Gore but if he went back into the shell, aka Gore for President 2000, that would be a set-back for Democrats which would take a generation to recover from.

I believe that former Vice President Gore would be a great candidate (who has shown he has learned lessons from his previous campaign) and I hope he runs.

Remember 1952? 2008 looks like that with parties reversed, especially dating long-term Republican power from Gingrich in 1994. A war just dragging on; continual scandals; a candidate, whoever it may be, who will have to run on part of the record (in Stevenson's case, the New Deal) but definitely not all of it (then, "Communism, corruption, and Korea"); a general public impression that Washington is fouling up by the numbers. A candidate like Taft or Warren would not have won big like Eisenhower, but practically any Republican would have won against the Truman record.

So, unless things change drastically, for 2008. Any reasonable Democrat can win (my bet is on Hillary). So Democrats: how about letting the poor old 2000 horse quietly rot and focusing on 2012? What sort of record, realistically (boldface that), do you want your party to have, and who is most likely to bring it off? Less with the who-can-carry-Ohio; more with the how-can-we-fix-the-tax-system. Please.

Of course, before 1952 there was 1948. Perhaps some Democrat, like Dewey, can yet snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. My bet is on . . . no names, no pack drill.

hl-

Not sure what you mean by bogus declaration of global warming.

US EPA and US NOAA have website (if I add links, the post will be held).

Bush accepted the National Academy of Scientists report that global warming is a serious issue back in 2001.

The Repuiblican Governor of California has been talking about it as well.

It is a pretty well-established set of science not "crackpots". That Gore was out in front of this issue by a decade or so speaks well to his foresight as a public policy leader.

hl-

Not sure what you mean by bogus declarations on global warming. The White House has acknowledged global warming as a threat, the US EPA has its own Global Warming websites:
http://www.epa.gov/globalwarming/kids/index.html
http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/Climate.html

The U.S. National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

It is on the Republican Governor of California's agenda.

THe Federal Government participates on the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

President Bush stated in 2001 he accepts the National Academy of Science definition
and contention that global warming is a "serious problem".

Dear god, make them stop beating me...

If Gore can build upon his passion for the environment by telling people how American can be the innovators in environmental cleanup, renewable energy and post-gasoline automobiles, which would mean high-skilled jobs and a strengthening of the economy not just in blue states but in red states, he can win. The key is showing corporate America that it can make money while solving the global warming problem.

I think Al Gore is doing what he does best, and that is talking about something that he is very passionate about and that is the environment. What this administration has done to the environment on all its levels is criminal, plus the average American hasn’t paid that much attention to this subject unfortunately. With Al going from coast to coast this is the best thing that could happen for the environmental movement. The media hasn’t expressed what harms this administration has done to the environment. Now that Gore is out talking about a subject that every human being needs to be focused on, but because it’s a tantalizing news story that he MAYBE running in ’08 it’s all over the media.
I hope Al keeps this subject on the front burner, there’s not one Republican who can debate him on this subject. He’s one smart cookie, I see him being a large thorn in this administrations side.

McCain will not get the independent voters if he keeps up what he’s doing now.
Rudy is too much of the centrist and will not get the religious right blessing. (I just couldn’t help myself).

I'm waiting for the GOPer who will boldly claim to be the heir apparent of GW Bush. You know, "let's continue the path we are going, because, you know, it's going so well." "Are you/we better off today than you/we were eight years ago".

Put that out there and then see how Gore does. I think he will do pretty well.

I'd vote for Gore/Clinton 08

I'm still waiting for a "how will this play with voters back home?" sort of Fix post concerning the recent revelation that the White House authorized Libby's Leak.

I mean, the Democrats mispronounce a word and suddenly The Fix is all over the story about how it is hurting their national security credentials. The Republicans leak bogus, already discredited information and in the process out a CIA operative in order to slime someone who turns out to have been right all along and no Fix post on that?

Having Al Gore run again for president would be another gift to Republicans that just keeps on giving. You can't tell that when this man speaks that he isn't a left wing crackpot? With his outrageous and scientifically bogus declarations on global warming and his shrill Hillary like whiny proclamations on evil Republicanism there can be no doubt that the Democratic party will lose another presidential race in 2008. This man is a left wing enviro-KOOK and I really hope he runs for the Dem nomination. The entertainment value of a Gore run would be incalculable. GO AL GO!

We are definately seeing a different Al Gore than was on display in 2000. Which would show up for a 2008 bid? And what sweater will he wear?

I have been a huge Al Gore fan for a long time, since he ran in 1988.

But remember, the tin man makeover was not the real reason Gore is not sitting in the White House. It is not even the Supreme COurt other conspiracy theories.

Gore and his team made serious tactical mistakes that cost him electoral victory (aside from Florida).

Pulling out of Ohio was a huge mistake. Taking them for granted and not winning home state Tennesee was a massive blunder.

Appeals to Nader and his voters were started far too late and could have shaved crucial votes from Nader in New Hampshire, where his 22,000 votes cost Gore the state (lost to Bush by 8,000+).

Change vs. more of the same.

Hey Jack, no offense, but maybe the cold has gotten through your tuque up there in the Great White North.

Number 1, your evidence for saying Gore would have prevented 9/11 is.....? Last I heard, the Sudan had offered Osama to the Clinton administration 3 times, but was turned down because Reno's DOJ didn't think there was enough to prosecute. I'm not necessarily blaming Gore per se, but it was his watch when WTC got hit the first time, and our embassies, and the Cole; see a pattern? I don't let W off the hook either, by the way, but it's pretty ridiculous to argue that Gore would have fought the war on terror any tougher.

Number 2, the Supreme Court merely overturned the Florida all-Dem all-the-time court decision. But let's not hash out that nightmare again, please.

PS McCain/Rudy/Whoever couldn't ask for a better candidate to run against than Al G. He would be the answer to GOP prayers. (Well, maybe Howard Dean would be a more inviting target, but not by much)

I don't get it. How can either Gore or Kerry justify running again when they so quickly capitulated to the questionable results of both elections?

Gore, in particular, should have made more of a stand after the theft of Florida. I am still reminded that not a single Senator stood up in support of the House Representatives that felt dis-enfranchised after the well-documented instances of dirty election tricks that targetted minorities.

Add to that, Gore chose to treat a popular president as a pariah and not only ran from Monica, but from the president's overall record, which wasn't something to hide from.

I feel that Gore has a lot to answer for regarding the position our country is in at the moment.

There are few candidates I like less than Hillary, but topping the list of those that I would not want to represent my party are certainly Gore and Kerry.

I am tired of hearing about the 2000 campaign. As it turned out, the Bush-neocon agenda has been tried and revealed to be a colossal blunder. It is time for the man who is most qualified to be president to have his turn, and America will be better for it. It is time for Al Gore!

My opponent is a man I know well and call friend. Both our names are linked forever in the campaign legislation known as McCain-Feingold. Truthfully, (smiles), I always thought Feingold should come before McCain because of the alphabet.

We all know his personal story of heroism. A Vietnam POW who put his comrades’ well being before his own. John could have escaped the horrors of the Vietnamese prison camps sooner but he didn’t want to abandon his brothers in arms. No matter what our disagreements he is a man I will always honor and respect. I am proud to call John McCain my friend.

But this election is about the future. Sadly, my good friend John McCain represents the failed ideology of the past. One that has left our nation fiscally insolvent, spiritually corrupted, less free at home and disrespected abroad. We represent change. (Cheers)

Read, "My Liberal Fantasy: Russ Feingold's 2008 Nomination Acceptance Speech", in the *Intrepid Liberal Journal*.

http://www.intrepidliberaljournal.blogspot.com

Gore actually won the 2000 election, and had the Democrats backed him, and prevented the republican mobs in Miami and the corrupt Supreme Court from usurping the presidency, as they should have in the aftermath of the election, he would probably be the President today.I tend to believe that he would have been a great president, and most likely, there would not have been a 9/11.

I find it interesting that the same issue that caused Gore to lose the election is now why people love him. He lost becuase he didn't protect his left and Nader took just enough to allow Bush to win. If Gore had talked as passionatly then about the environment as he does now Nader would have been a none issue. But instead he ran to the middle and the left found someone else.

I'd support Al Gore in a heartbeat because of his policies, and because he can stop that lunatic, Hillary Clinton.

It's time for new blood. It would be nice to have a 2008 presidential campaign that does not include the following names: Bush, Gore, Clinton, Dole.

The Democrats can win with a centrist, especially if the Republicans go with an unrepentent Bush apologist. A Warner, a Bayh, perhaps even Edwards. They need a message: we can run the country better and more honestly.

Al Gore has been, for the past six months, running the strong anti-Bush campaign that he should have run five years ago which has maked him the "dark horse" of the '08 campaign. If R. Nixon can stage a comeback campaign so can Gore.

Of course, he will have to fight for it - no convention just annoints someone any more.