Halperin and Harris ? What date did they fall off the turnip truck?

Posted by someone who is scared to state their name: "DRUDGE- The e-coli of news"

That's a great analogy. If you injest it and can't handle it you will suffer or die, like the Democratic party.

DRUDGE- The e-coli of news

Bob, how unprofessional indeed. You see, I don't swear at you.

I asked you to read the NAS report, not the silly "report of fact from the majority". I asked you to read the science, not a political blurb.

Speaking of science, how you can think that a Exxon paid Cato institute shill can uproot a lot of hard work by the NAS committee, eh?

Oh, and you didn't say why cloudless skies produce colder temps yet.

Yes, support your schools including FACT and EQUATION based science curriculum.

I'm not talking down, I am trying to communicate the fact that you've gotta read the unpolluted reports before slamming it.

I take it the FU is from FUBAR, a well known phrase to all computer types.

Okay that is not the actual report but you get the idea, this extract from Vitriol's source document does not support his (and AL Gore's) Global warming thesis.

GTG to a Band Booster meeting - support your schools! We can play some more tomorrow.

Vitriol - was that the wrong report? You asked me to read the report

Bob --- I had work to do.

Quoting Vitriol's order to me;
Quote
Read the National Academy of Sciences report. When you're done, report back.
Unquote

YES SIR!!!

Bad Bob reporting as ORDERED

http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=259323
National Academy of Sciences report.

Ta-Da!

Case closed.

Okay, I admit my last comment was unprofessional...

Vitriol -
Here we go again...

"Report back" perhaps as soon as you are in my Chain of Commmand. But I report to no one.

No "Scientific Consensus"

http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=259323
Furthermore, sixty scientists recently wrote an open letter to Canadian Prime Minister Harper calling for a complete review of the science behind climate alarmism. Additionally, recent scientific analyzes dispute the claims of those promoting human-caused catastrophic global warming. The United Nations media hyped "Hockey Stick" was broken in June by a National Academy of Sciences report reaffirming the existence of the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age. Finally, just last week, three researchers -- Edward J. Wegman of George Mason University, David W. Scott of Rice University and Yasmin H. Said of Johns Hopkins University, further debunked the "Hockey Stick."

I'll let the facts speak for themselves, they'll certainly be more accurate that way vice me being a middle man. But isn't that the report above that you asked me to read? Yes, and it states, the United Nations Hockey Stick is broken....

Hmmm, FU means exactly what you thought, F**k you if you're talking down to us from the back of that horse - or is it a Donkey? But you knew that, how clever.

Bob --- I had work to do.

"But yes, I do believe in God & Jesus, guns, and free speech - AND opposing points of view that are based on FACT, not emotion or touchy-feely BS."

Whoa.

God and Jesus are based on FACT?

As for Inofe, you've got to be kidding. He's laughable. Read the National Academy of Sciences report. When you're done, report back.

Meanwhile, I'd like you to explain why nights are colder without cloud cover.

FU? Does that mean foo?

Ever take physics?

How about thermodynamics?

Or is that stuff too "touchy feely" for you?

Bob Good and Bad

Thanks. This just goes to show why the libs hate Drudge so much. I found links to all of these facts through his website. Ouch!

Figures this type of dialog would appear. Can't discuss facts so start throwing a hissy fit.

"Drudge Report exclusive! Terrorist Pilots on 9/11 were Democrats!!!!"

Rich Brown - Why do you say the discussion has been a waste?

Drugde does it again. This whole discussion
has been a waste.

Drudge Report Reader,
Nicely done.
Bob

Will - That's the problem with the internet, many, many facts and references can be checked and cross checked.

Will

Read the entire article before making your uninformed comments. Specifically "Continuing with our media analysis: On July 24, 2006 The Los Angeles Times featured an op-ed by Naomi Oreskes, a social scientist at the University of California San Diego and the author of a 2004 Science Magazine study. Oreskes insisted that a review of 928 scientific papers showed there was 100% consensus that global warming was not caused by natural climate variations. This study was also featured in former Vice President Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=259323

However, the analysis in Science Magazine excluded nearly 11,000 studies or more than 90 percent of the papers dealing with global warming, according to a critique by British social scientist Benny Peiser.

Peiser also pointed out that less than two percent of the climate studies in the survey actually endorsed the so-called "consensus view" that human activity is driving global warming and some of the studies actually opposed that view.

But despite this manufactured "consensus," the media continued to ignore any attempt to question the orthodoxy of climate alarmism.

And then read the left wing rag Time magazines own words.
http://time-proxy.yaga.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,944914,00.html

Nothing more offical than the Grist mill - boy, I can't top that for a document source. Dang the Senate...

But I'll go Tit for Tat with http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse

OBTW _ Waiting for Gore-doh... Since Al Gore was offered the opportunity to facilitate serious debate on the underlying science of global climate change, 9 months, 1 day, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 8 seconds have elapsed. Despite milking lucrative speaking engagements and book deals with his global warming schtick he declines any such debate. Perhaps he's afraid of the Real Inconvenient Truth.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse

As to that particular Inhofe speech here's all you need to know about his 'facts'.

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/9/25/17124/9789

I'm not on a high horse either, Bob, to each their own, but I deal with science, not belief. Inhofe is entitled to believe that global warming is a hoax, but as a senator, I wish he would fact-check his own stuff before spreading the word.

"They KILLED 231 Marines, Sailors and Army personnel in October of 1983 - I had friends among them. They KILLED 3000+ on September 11th 2001. They are serious about what they are doing, they are fanatics with whom there is no way of life but their own."

Be sure you get the right 'They' or you run the risk of creating more 'they'.

Whether I've served or not is completely immaterial to the discussion. Military service is not a requirement to free speech.

James INhofe has abosolutely zero credibility on Global Warming. All you need to know is 1000 scientists in the field were asked to write a paper about whether or not Global warming was real and whether or not we were to blame. 993 saiod yes. The other 7? Never responded. So there wasn't a hint of dissention amongst people that have a combined 19,860 YEARS of expertise on the subject. But James Inhofe says it's BS and you march in lockstep with that decision? Think about it. I mean don't just respond with talking points, think about it. I would really, really love it if Inhofe was right, man that would make me really happy, but when you strip away rhetoric, and just look at the facts, when you just look at ice cores and the history of the last 100,000 years, you'll understand that our warming could lead to devastating heat or devastating cold (if the cycle overreacts), but ignoring our contributions will lead to a devastating something, without a doubt.

An amazing amount of vitriol ...

I'm ready for issues: Bob, what's your scientific reference for "Global Cooling"? Care to cite papers?

Vitriol - where'd you go? Hiding?

Did you read the postings several days ago, in particular "Hot & Cold Media Spin: A Challenge To Journalists Who Cover Global Warming" by SENATOR JAMES INHOFE, CHAIRMAN, SENATE ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE SENATE FLOOR SPEECH DELIVERED THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2006

http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=263759

An extract,
Quote: This past Monday, I took to this floor for the eighth time to discuss global warming. My speech focused on the myths surrounding global warming and how our national news media has embarrassed itself with a 100-year documented legacy of coverage on what turned out to be trendy climate science theories.

Over the last century, the media has flip-flopped between global cooling and warming scares. At the turn of the 20th century, the media peddled an upcoming ice age -- and they said the world was coming to an end. Then in the 1930s, the alarm was raised about disaster from global warming -- and they said the world was coming to an end. Then in the 70's, an alarm for another ice age was raised -- and they said the world was coming to an end. And now, today we are back to fears of catastrophic global warming -- and again they are saying the world is coming to an end.

Unquote.

And don't worry I'm not a Bible thumper either - not that being a Bible thumper is a bad thing, it's their thing so respect it. Same as I'm guessing you'd expect me to respect a rally of lesbians or gays - it's their thing. But that said, you'll be just as likely to see me in a topless bar as a Republican Rally, so don't get on your high horse with me or anyone else that doesn't subscribe to your point of view.

But yes, I do believe in God & Jesus, guns, and free speech - AND opposing points of view that are based on FACT, not emotion or touchy-feely BS.

WRT 'Global Warming' I'm not a scientist (or a very good speller (F7!!)), but I do know how to read and use logic and reason to sort things out vice emotional knee jerking to make far reaching decisions in my life. I would hope that others that provide or hold leadership positions, be it public office or the talking heads and writers in the court of public opinion, would execute their office with the same concern(s).

So, am I an authority on Global Warming - no. Do I think its being irrationally hyped - yes. These are my thoughts, if you disagree, no worries - but if you want to climb on that horse - FU!

* Drudge editorializes? And which media outlet doesn't? As others have noted, the vast majority of his stories are links to other media. Every major newspaper, TV or internet site selects which stories it thinks (based on its perspective) are important for Americans to know about. Those other "real" (read mainstream, traditional) media don't have the courage to include links on their sites to all of their major competitors. A great idea would be for CNN and others to include at the end of each story a statement that readers should "click on this link to FoxNews to see the other side of the story".
* I frequently read stories on Drudge, only to find them in my newspaper or on TV 1 or 2 days later -- even on their websites. It's not that they can't get news faster - they choose to hold news they don't like until they realize that a story is big enough that they'd look stupid to not run it. (Remember Lewinsky?)
* His site's many links (how many liberal media sites link to so many other news sources across the spectrum?) allow me to easily jump to various media outlets. Easy access increases competition among media sites, making it embarrassing when certain outlets simply don't cover what should be a major story of the day. That's the competitive beauty of the internet. I'm not stuck watching Cronkite as used to happen because of the decades-long oligopoly in mainstream media.
* There's no question many are afraid of this new media (and thus try to ridicule it or minimize it) because it keeps the old powers from being able to control which news to run and which slant to put on it.

John F. Kennedy, per Dallek in his _Unfinished Life_ :

+++++++++++
Dallek also obtained documents indicating Kennedy had an affair with a 19-year-old intern in the White House. He came across the material after discovering 17 blacked-out pages in an oral history by Barbara Gamarekian, who was an aide to Kennedy Press Secretary Pierre Salinger.

"I went to see her, talked to her and said, 'Barbara, may I read this? And she said, 'Well, it's 40 years later. OK, I'm going to let you have it." Dallek says Gamarekian refused to give him the name of the former intern to protect the woman from embarrassment. The New York Daily News subsequently learned the woman's identity and published an interview with her.
++++++++++++++

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1276266

An amazing amount of vitriol ...

I'm ready for issues: Bob, what's your scientific reference for "Global Cooling"? Care to cite papers?

I'll actually agree with one sentiment here: it was the Demos who lost the last election by not effectively responding to the Rovian attacks. Don't blame Drudge, look around.

What amazes me is how politicians of all colors and stripes won't admit their faults. What would have happened if Clinton had admitted his affair? Where would we be now?

And no, I don't want you wasting your time praying for me.

Top 10 Democratic Sex Scandals in Congress
10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.

8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank's residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election--before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.

Lia,
Time's up - where's the plan?
Bobby

- Will, you say you'd defend my and AzGirl rights to voice our thoughts, etc. etc, do you have any military or public service time?

No, not making it personal, but I am making a point.

And just because one has served in the military does not mean they are qualified to lead this great ___________ (fill in the blank, Nation, town, county, city, etc.)

They have to be smart, not rocket scientist smart, but common sense smart.

Okay, last posting for now, I really need to get back to work.

WRT the comment from Sen Frist, that Will associates with Cut-N-Run

Quote: Frist, who said he would announce whether he would run for the U.S. presidency in about a month, said he had hoped that the United States would be able to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan soon. Unquote

No one wants us, Good Guys in White Hats from Many Nations, to be there - but someone MUST fight the fight. These Bad Guys, think Black Hats, will not go away - they want to KILL you, me, our kids and grand kids. Do you understand that basic thought?

They KILLED 231 Marines, Sailors and Army personnel in October of 1983 - I had friends among them. They KILLED 3000+ on September 11th 2001. They are serious about what they are doing, they are fanatics with whom there is no way of life but their own.

Do my friends want to be deployed away from this country and their family and friends - No, I don't know many that do. But they do understand -better than many in this blog- 'Why'.

Got to go, but as the Gov of California said - "I'll Be Back", and watching in the meantime.

Keep it clean and honest - stick to the issues.

Bobby Good and Bad

Wilbury and KoldStone

Your posts have no bearing on the aforementioned article, but for your information, the official recount in Florida by a nuetral party after the election in 2000 still had Bush winning. Gore only picked up 49 more votes....
GIVE IT A REST ALREADY !!!!!
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=519110&GBYPASS=FA1022FAFEC60E06F4D40BEE837E6BDB1160060990
If you are going to whine, at least get your facts strait and please try to stay with the current topic about some lame book that is trying to discredit Drudge for a completely different election than the one you are whinning about.. PLEASE !!!
By the way, don't shoot the messenger, shoot the message if you don't like it. Voice your opinion, but don't lie about it. Kerry is the reason Kerry lost the election. Hopefully next election will have better candidates than the last few...
Drudge is the root of all evil??? PLEASE !

Will,

Maybe you should try reading the whole article you site before spouting off at the mouth. The article you link to has several WRITER COMMENTS about Frist saying we need to bring the Taliban into the government. If you read Frists' quotes you will see that is not what he actually said. He was merely stating that every act of violence is automatically assumed to be Taliban and the people who had legitimate quarrels with the current government needs to be separated from the terrorist. What better way to do that than bring them into the political process? Conservatives have had to use their brains for years to separate the actual news from the writers' opinions. That is why pages like Drudge are so popular, it helps find many different takes on actual news, not just a single liberal slant.

F7,F7,F7 - got to remember F7 (spell check command for the politically incorrect Microsoft Word). What makes it Non-PC? Watch TV and you'll see Apple computers in all of the PC shows - Sex in the City, etc.

Editorials from swing districts around the country:

Rochester Democrat & Chronicle: Aide's resignation another reason for investigation: Pieces of this troubling puzzle, including Fordham's and Reynolds' involvement, are accumulating day by day, even hour by hour. There should be no delay in putting the puzzle together. Voters in western New York, including parts of Monroe County, must decide on Reynolds' bid for re-election. They need clarity.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061005/OPINION04/610050364/1041/OPINION

Niagara Gazette: REYNOLDS EFFORT NOT ENOUGH: Reynolds, on a clear damage control mission, flanked himself with local political allies -- and their young children -- in an attempt to, we can only surmise, distance himself from Foley's acts. If he really wanted to show voters he and Foley aren't alike, he might better have picked up a telephone and called the FBI to tell them what he knew.Ê Reynolds' effort wasn't enough. He knew that Foley was involved in conduct that would raise the suspicions of any rational person. Quite simply, 52-year-old men don't regularly ask for photos of 16-year-old boys, as was the case in the first batch of e-mails that Reynolds knew about. That, alone, should have been enough for him to seek out the full story. He wouldn't have had to look far, either. Foley's former chief of staff was on Reynolds' payroll when he got the news.

http://www.niagara-gazette.com/opinion/local_story_277215520.html?keyword=topstory

Denver Post: House leaders failed to protect pages: The episode is a hard lesson for a party in which "family values" has been a political mantra. It's rank hypocrisy that GOP leaders didn't step in when Foley's behavior was first brought to their attention. ÊÊImagine this. Hastert learned of Foley's transgressions in 2005. But if they hadn't been exposed by others, Foley would still be in office.

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_4437821

Seattle Times: A House crying out for ethics: If Hastert knowingly swept the mess under the rug for political reasons, he must step down as speaker. Backroom deals to keep him in his job on condition he not seek the speakership next time further aggravate the public trust. For one thing, Hastert is trading something he doesn't own. He and his pal, Foley, may be the final straw for American voters, who may want this gang of hypocrites to go away now.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2003289131_pagesed05.html

Cincinnati Post: Enablers in Congress: The Foley incident goes to the heart of the House's peculiar self-protective culture, particularly among the majority: To get along, go along; don't rock the boat; don't do anything that might make the party look bad. It's why the House has been unable to enact meaningful lobbying reform or bring the costly problem of earmarked pork projects under control.Ê It's why Republicans have been silent about the legal and ethical problems of Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham and Ohio's Bob Ney, and the Democrats silent about William Jefferson. And it's why the silence on Mark Foley will be deafening.

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061003/EDIT/610030329/1003

Minneapolis Star Tribune: Leaders should have confronted Foley: Now that their secret is out, House Republican leaders are falling all over themselves to condemn the shameful behavior of former colleague Mark Foley, even though some of them had known for months about Foley's sexually heated electronic correspondence with teenage congressional pages... Hastert's scorn comes a little late.

http://www.startribune.com/561/story/719308.html

Des Moines Register: Scandal reveals sorry state of Congress: Foley, apparently, has a special kind of sickness.Ê But members of Congress have lost all trust and respect for each other. That is also an ailment of sorts -- one that affects the entire country.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061004/OPINION03/610040336/1110

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Editorial: Who knew what and when? ÊÊAn FBI investigation into whether Rep. Mark Foley's sexually suggestive communications with congressional pages violate federal law is essential. But as a matter of public confidence, just as important is shedding some light on what House leadership knew and didn't know well before the public learned of the latest Capitol Hill scandal on Friday, courtesy of ABC News. What's known to date is disturbing.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=508016

Philadelphia Enquirer Editorial: MORE FOLEY FALLOUT: Hastert's remark about "our election" bespeaks an arrogance of entitlement that Republicans vowed to eliminate in 1994 in their Contract with America.Ê Back then, they favored 12-year term limits on members of Congress. Now that those dozen years are up, Hastert feels his party's control is mandatory for protection against forces from without, regardless of the rot from within.

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/opinion/15680920.htm

Nothin here but spew and bile and pus and venom.

II find it very funny that the right thinks proaganda is news. There's nothing 'new' about the new media - Goebells invented it with talk radio in the 1930's. You cultists woud have loved Hitler and Stalin.

Lia, you criticize Good Bob for spelling while you stutter. PPPPerfect.

Sorry, fogot to put my name in the Sen Frist comment above...

Will (and others),
This is a partial cut-n-paste from the hyperlink;

Quote: Frist, who said he would announce whether he would run for the U.S. presidency in about a month, said he had hoped that the United States would be able to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan soon. But the 20,000 U.S. troops are still needed to help the 37-country coalition deal with an intensifying Taliban insurgency.

"We're going to need to stay here a long time," Frist said.

The senator said he had been warned to expect attacks in Afghanistan to increase. There appears to be an "unlimited flow" of Afghans and foreigners, he said, "willing to pick up arms and integrate themselves with the Taliban."

He said the only way to win in places like Qalat is to "assimilate people who call themselves Taliban into a larger, more representative government."

UnQuote.

Hmmmmm - this does not read like cut and run, it reads like a political solution which in the end is how all matters of conflict generally end -if you've not killed everyone on the opposing side.

Lia - If someone tells (or makes you think)they're going to attack, but don't tell you when, where or how - where would you begin to setup your defense? And OBTW the FBI and the CIA are not allowed to talk to one another. And fast forwarding to the current Dem driven agenda, you're not permitted to listen in on overseas phone calls from possible bad-guys (and gals.

Please respond with a plan to prevent such an event (and no name calling or insult hurling please - I'm easily offended (okay, that is a lie)).

WASHINGTON Sep 29, 2006 (AP)-- Dogged by allegations of racial insensitivity, Sen. George Allen on Thursday introduced a bill to help black farmers.

Allen, R-Va., has spent weeks rebutting accusations that he used racist language and liked Confederate symbols.

An acquaintance from college has said he used a common slur for blacks. Stories have been revived about Allen keeping a Confederate flag at home and a hangman's noose in his law office.

The furor began Aug. 11, when the senator called a volunteer for his opponent "macaca," considered by some to be a racial slur, during a political rally.

Allen had been favored for re-election over Democrat Jim Webb, who served as Navy secretary under President Reagan. A former governor, Allen had also been considered a contender for president in 2008.

The bill Allen is sponsoring would give black farmers another chance at compensation under the settlement of a discrimination lawsuit against the Agriculture Department. A similar measure is pending in the House.

The department agreed seven years ago to pay farmers who could show they were discriminated against, providing payments of $50,000 in most cases and unlimited payments in extreme cases.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Condi's Worse Than Stupid
Condoleezza Rice is now trying to argue that although the briefing of July 10, 2001 did indeed take place exactly as alleged, it did not constitute an urgent warning because it was not based on any new threat information.... The whole point, dear Condi, is that it doesn't bloody matter if there's no new threat information. If the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency comes to you and pushes the panic button based on existing information, you bloody well listen to him.

Frist:
"QALAT, Afghanistan U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan guerrilla war can never be won militarily and called for efforts to bring the Taliban and their supporters into the Afghan government."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/02/asia/AS_GEN_Afghanistan_Frist.php

Now, though I diagree with you Azgirl and Bob, I will defend to the death your right to say these things. Have a good day.

I'd love to stay and chat but I've got to work. You see I have one of those jobs in those evil, hateful blue states whose taxes fund all the subsidies for red states that allow people to sit around all day figuring out long, obscure ways to make everything from 9/11 to Mark Foley Bill Clinton's fault.
Have fun foaming at the mouth about how terrible the big, bad demmycrats are with their secret controlling the media and massaging the feet of terrorists.

Will,
Marines fight the fight, as does the Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, and all the Spooks - plus our brethren in the Services of the coalition countries and the Iraqis themselves. The politicians set the goals and for the most part the Generals and their Staffs determine the strategy to actually execute the policy. It seems you are back to bumper sticker research - I know of no cut-n-run from Senator Frist - please enlighten us.

Regarding the first paragraph in today's column listing a few of the expected names in the 2008 "wide-open" nominations, this comment: For how many years now have we been told that the most evil and hated person on the planet is a man named Osama. That any political party would seriously think the American people would elect an African-American named Obama to be president should answer this simple, oft used Imus question: "What are you, nuts?" I mean, some of this stuff is just laughable. It's like Larry King asking Oprah with a serious face about her reaction to a draft-Oprah "movement" (one clown's suggestion, Larry, does not a movement make). Speaking of movements, one of Oprah's problems would be (in her own words) dealing with poop! Of course she said that to justify (??) not wanting to have children, and cleaning their (ugh!) diapers. Since you're in it up to your eyeballs most of the time in Washington, that is certainly no place to be for someone who is scatologically challenged.

What issues am I sidestepping, Bob? That Clinton is a rapist? or that Kerry is an 'idiot'? Or your view that we are not negatively affecting the climate? please, these are not issues. I gave you issues and you went back to namecalling.

Azgirl-
"If anyone isn't a Liberal hack on here or one of the other people who are standing up for what is right and good about America, please raise your hand."

That's right, because what is truly american? Telling people who disagree with you that they're not American. Niiiiiice. I think Ben Franklin would've stayed in France if he thought you were the type of American Democracy would create.

I never said I could spell, but I can think for myself and voice my thoughts.

What's interesting is that even with the typos others can understand what I wrote! Good stuff.

But again, Lia, you're side stepping the issue, as is Will, and making it personal -which is the Dem's way.

If anyone isn't a Liberal hack on here or one of the other people who are standing up for what is right and good about America, please raise your hand.

Lia, honey I didn't coin the fraise " new media ". If you have issuse with it you'll have to take it up with your friends in the liberal media.

I notice you didn't actually responed to any of my points, you just accused me of being a Nazi.....oh!... silly me, I guess that was a typical liberal response.

I see 'lia' must be a highly intelligent human being with worthwhile insights. 'lia' thinks everyone is stupid and unenlightened.

Bob -
What was your topic again? Oh yeah "Kerry lost because he's an idiot, as is Gore, as is Clinton." Oh and then you go on to call a president a rapist. If that's the topic, I'll pass.

Now if you as a Marine want to address why Frist wants to cut and run from Afghanistan but stay the course in Iraq, I'm all ears. Seems to me the terrorists interested in a global hegemonic empire of Wahabbism are in Afghanistan and Waziristan, not in Iraq.

'More inteiilgent comments from Lia and Will - but about what I'd expect.'

LOL. Why are all cons so friggin' illiterate? Let me guess...

I agree about Bush. Poppy was great. But Jr. is weak, very weak. Where do we get these candidates?

First, Bush ain't no Texan. He's a yankee from Connecticut. And he ain't no man of the people - he's a pampered frat boy.

So he is an uncomfortable guy, a 'split' man.

Not evil, or sinister (Think Kerry) but easily led.

to CW2UH60pilot, who lives "only to see you liberals have nervous break downs":

I feel so much safer knowing you're in the military "protecting" us.

With idiots like you in the service, no wonder we're getting our ass kicked in Iraq.

Well my last post didn't work at all... Here is what was said from the page I was quoting from by someone who was claiming to be offended: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/scjp-admin/section-14.html.

Personally, I'm rarely offended by anything other than total stupidity. I'm an Esoteric Chrisitian who has studied all the major religions and then some, and found much to appreciate in all of them.

Start by learning the history of term, to understand that there was likely no
offense intended. X is an abbreviation for Christ, arising from the Greek term
Christos, which starts with a Greek Chi, written as X. This usage dates back
to the 1500s. Thus, the usage is not an attempt to "blot out" the name, or be
offensive. However, it is worthwhile to note that for some, even with the
historical basis, the term remains offensive.

It should also be noted that some common Yiddish usages, although just a
shorthand for many, are considered offensive by some. A good example is the
word "shicksa".

Those wishing to avoid offending those bothered by terms such as these might
consider choosing alternate phrases.

Will,

Bob - 'B' 'o' 'b'...

There I'll keep it simple for you. Now let's get back on topic or do you subscribe to the Dem policy of personnal attacks on ANYTHING vice addressing the issue.

Whatever. I mean you have to call yourself 'Bad Bob in NC', what so people over the internet will know you're tough? :-)

I'm an Esoteric Christian... I'm sure I'm the first person of my ilk to ever post in a place like this.

I wondered what an x-tian was and found this:

1.12. Someone used the term Xtian, and I'm offended. What should I do?

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Start by learning the history of term, to understand that there was likely no
offense intended. X is an abbreviation for Christ, arising from the Greek term
Christos, which starts with a Greek Chi, written as X. This usage dates back
to the 1500s. Thus, the usage is not an attempt to "blot out" the name, or be
offensive. However, it is worthwhile to note that for some, even with the
historical basis, the term remains offensive.

It should also be noted that some common Yiddish usages, although just a
shorthand for many, are considered offensive by some. A good example is the
word "shicksa".

Those wishing to avoid offending those bothered by terms such as these might
consider choosing alternate phrases.

I've studied every major religion and then some and I've found much to admire in each of them.

So guess what? I'm not as unreasaonable as some as you may think. So maybe some of you might consider rethinking your position and after that, maybe we can talk?

This is unadulterated horse crap. Provide links to your sources, please.

Az Girl - As we say in the Marine Corps - GET SOME!

The Fix is in? Whatever, Diebold.

Azgirl- Well, at least you see the wierd connections between hating Iran and loving Saudi Arabia. I am no friend of Iran, I just don't see a military option. I believe in talking with Iran and opening up trade again because nothing spreads democracy like blue jeans and rock and roll. PJ O'rourke, a very funny conservative writer shares that view, going so far to suggest that the fall of the Soviet Union was cause because 'no one wanted to wear sh!tty Bulgarian shoes'.

More inteiilgent comments from Lia and Will - but about what I'd expect.

Cons, what a bunch of friggin lunatics.

Gore and Kerry lost because they didn't thump the bible enough. Gotta get some born again x-tian Democrat to take the White House. Hopefully he'll turn within a week and denounce all the x-tian stuff.

More inteiilgent comments from Lia and Will - but about what I'd expect.

Mmmmrroww, slash.

Well, I'm up for a catfight but I guess it's not going to happen.

Too bad, because it might be fun to debate an intelligent Liberal. I used to be so middle-of-the-road politically.

The Democrat Party's tactics have made me click on every Republican's box even those really obscure ones that nobody cares about.

It is amazing to watch one lying journalist throw mud at another, but what is even more amazing is when the 'paragon' of truth, the Washington Post propagandizes, the left just sips the 'kool-aid' and echos the slant.

The Fix is in - no doubt.

Don't foist him on us Will. He's no Yankee. He's a golf cart jockey and a drunk fratboy cokehead and a phony through and through.

Oh, just for the record there was a study done at UCLA ( hardly a bastion of conservative ideals ) which concluded that the main stream traditional media does fall left of center. Some farther than others. The Drudge Report itself was shown to be just slightly left of center.

Liberals, what a bunch of cry babies.

As a Texan, let me just say that BUSH is the quintessential Yankee carpetbagger scumbag. He raided and destroyed businesses, took wealth out of texas and no Texan, goes to ANDOVER. You can put a yankee in a ten gallon hat and take pretty pictures of him with a chainsaw, but he's still a YANKEE.

Because of Drudge, The Post is probably going to a million hits today from individuals all around the world.

Because of Drudge, The Post is probably going to get a million hits today from individuals all around the world going to drudge report like myself.

II find it very funny that the right thinks proaganda is news. There's nothing 'new' about the new media - Goebells invented it with talk radio in the 1930's. You cultists woud have loved Hitler and Stalin.

I happen to think that our "friendship" with Saudi Arabia is totally weird.

Now that we've got that out of the way, what is Lia's problem?

Lia, have you ever read the Quaran or studied the history of Islam or paid any attention at all to what is going on?

The 1984 thought police are here, but it's the Democrats - try having a dissenting point of view and you'll get it shoved up you're a**.

What a bunch of crybabies. The Dems want it both ways - don't listen to terrorists - but listen to folks in the US. WTF? Make up your mind.

Kerry lost because he's an idiot, as is Gore, as is Clinton (both of them; ones' a carpetbagger the other is an adulteress and rapist).

Global warming - or is it cooling? Check the facts for a change. For the most part most of what is written in here is a bunch of whining dribble by people that can only research as far as the bumper sticker on the car in front of them.

And as was stated Drudge only collects and presents what others write for the most part.

Poor ol' Drudge won't be able to save the Republicans rabble from the wrath of the public at the coming mid-terms....

I find it very funny that the left is so angry at the new media. The historical context is that the traditional main stream media, under the guise of ballanced reporting, controlled the dissemination of information in this country for decades. The result was that the Democrats crontrolled the government ( either partially or completely ) for over 40 years. Now the new media ( internet news sites and radio ) have leveled the playing field and the left can't stand it. Some new media outlets are right leaning, but some, like Drudge, are simply reporting facts. Sorry liberals, your news media monopoly is over, live with it.

My problem with this book is, that it suggests that the only reason Gore and Kerry lost, was because they lost control over their image. How about an other reason, what I believe to be true. THEY WERE IN FACT FAKES AND THEY HAD NO IMAGE. and the public saw the truth. both gore and kerry were busy flip flopping on issues every other day, this has nothing to do with how you sell yourself. this has everything to do with WHAT YOU REALLY ARE!!!. the autors in this book seem to be convinced that it doesn't really matter who the candidate is, if only you can sell yourself in a positive way. Thats insulting to the american public.

BUSH is a genuinely frightening human being - a man without a SOUL!

Drudge is a clearing house of headlines....that is all. People go there because it is a simple design that keeps them from having to go to 100 different sources in search of today's stories. Big frickin' deal!!! He cuts and pastes and people act like he is some huge contributor to the cultural scene.

Oh yeah, lets not forget when he leaked an exclusive on Kerry having an affair with a young intern type. Oh, thats right, it was false. Drudge gets it wrong as much as he gets it right. If he worked for the MSM like Dan Rather, he'd be out of a job.

Kerry was a genuinely frightening human being - a man without a SOUL!

Heres a gung-ho warrior who goes through a complete flip-flip within months of getting back stateside and becomes a propaganda mouthpiece for our enemies. He even made a false confession of wartime atrocities in front of the Senate, just like Bukharin - no torture needed!

He stated that he never refuted the Swift Boat guys because his campaign ran out of money.

Any decent candidate and the Democrats would have cruised into the White House.

You know, it coulda been Kerry's MESSAGE and lack of IDEAS and RECORD and ELITISM and LACK OF MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE that killed his campaign. Just maybe.

A sow with a pretty pink bow is still a PIG. Or a donkey, as it were. Thank God the majority continue to see this.

Drudge? He barely registers as a blip on the radar screen,in my opinion. I think of him as another apendage of the Republican spin machine. He is no more reliable than, Hannity, Limbaugh and Fox News who are all tools of the party. I have to strongly disagree with both Halperin and Harris and say Senator Kerry ran a decent campaign. Perhaps with the help of Halperin and Harris, out there doing their jobs, which should of been reporting the facts-not the spin, the lies and distortions of Drudge and others of his ilk would have had no impact at all. It is also amusing that Halperin and Harris seem to think that one man- Senator Kerry alone, should have been able to counter not only the Republican line of attacks but the media's also. What I witnessed during the campaign of 2004 regarding the coddling of President Bush, his record and his past history and the distortions,disregard and disrespect displayed by many in the media regarding Senator Kerry, has forever changed my opinion of the media I used to regard as fair. Senator Kerry managed to come within 2.3% of unseating a war time president,he had more voters voting for him than Clinton or Gore, and many people still respect the sentator because,even through all the media spin and distortion, he managed to get out some truths about the Bush administration and the War in Iraq. I don't regard Senator Kerry as a loser, actually, the American public became the real losers, once the media allowed President Bush and Carl Rove and the Republican spinners carte blanche to control the information and message
to the public. What this book seems to be saying is the Democrats need to buy into the media, just like the Republicans in order to spin,control and frame their messages. Great, just what we need- all propaganda all the time.

Azgirl-

so Iran is bad, but Saudi Arabia is okay?

Kerry was a genuinely frightening human being - a man without a SOUL!

Heres a gung-ho warrior who goes through a complete flip-flip within months of getting back stateside and becomes a propaganda mouthpiece for our enemies. He even made a false confession of wartime atrocities in front of the Senate, just like Bukharin - no torture needed!

He stated that he never refuted the Swift Boat guys because his campaign ran out of money.

Any decent candidate and the Democrats would have cruised into the White House.

Hey,

Don't stop talking just because of something I posted.

Regroup and let's continue the discussion.

Oh wow, according to Drudge, it turns out ONE of the pages was 18 years old at least part of the time Foley was having sex with him! We forgive him! Foley, please come back to congress and resume you chair on the Missing and Exploited children commission. We'll even pay for your blackberry so you can tell all the 18 year old boys you want about your orgasms from the floors of congress! Way to go Drudge! Democracy is saved.

Why am I digusted? Because you are fantasizing about your son killing people. Maybe juust to please you he will go out and gun down a bunch of schoolgirls.

You also seem to be obssessed with Islam. Not like it's your business, is it?

So what do ya'll think about this:

Khameini: Don't masturbate during Ramadan
Iran's supreme leader answers questions on masturbation and other topics on his website
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 10.04.06, 19:55
Deliberate masturbation during the month of Ramadan renders a fast invalid, Iranian Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khameini has ruled.

Khameini, who is Iran's most powerful political and religious figure, was asked on his website : "If somebody masturbates during the

month of Ramadan but without any discharge, is his fasting invalidated?"

"If he do not intend masturbation and discharging semen and nothing is discharged, his fasting is correct even though he has done a ḥarām (forbidden) act. But, if he intends masturbation or he knows that he usually discharges semen by this process and semen really comes out, it is a ḥaram intentional breaking fasting," the Iranian leader said, posting the reply on his website.

Another reader asked: "Once in the holy month of Ramadan, I forgot to brush my teeth, and some tiny bits of food remained in my mouth. I swallowed the bits unintentionally. Do I have to perform the qaḍa (repent) for that day's fast?"

"If you did not know that some bits of food remained between the teeth, or you did not know that they would reach the throat, and they were swallowed unknowingly and unintentionally, then you are not liable to make (repent) of the fast," said Khameini.

'Drink water while standing'
On the website, Khameini also tells Iranians that only jockeys are permitted to gamble on horse races.

He is also asked whether it is permissible for a man to marry a woman only in order to be able to live in his wife's country. "Can a man conclude a marriage contract for a year with a European girl after getting her agreement with the purpose of going to her country?" A reader asked.

"There is no problem in that if they are serious in contracting marriage and it is done with her father's permission if she is virgin," Khameini ruled.

The Iranian leader also told readers they were allowed to "to drink water while standing" at nights. It was "not permissible" to take part in meetings attended by both men and women, he told another reader.

"In Islam's view, rulers and governments exist just to serve people and carry out works in the interest of the public and this is what God demands us, as authorities, to fulfill," Khamenei was quoted Tuesday telling Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Wow,
lots of lock-step marching going on here today. Kinda creepy. Drudge is a journalist, like the guys at the NYTimes. Drudge is not 'a mouthpiece of the right' and the NYTimes is not 'the liberal media'. We're Americans, people. Stop hating each other. You say things here you'd never say in person. That's pretty shameless. And that goes for BOTH sides here.

Basically we're all doing our best to kill democracy, one snipe at a time.

Drudge is mostly a news aggregator. Drudge is great b/c he boils down the vast universe of available news and gives links to the stories that are often the most relevant to politics, or at least entertaining. Occasionally, he has his own material that spoils the carefully crafted narrative of some politico or MSM outlet.

RealClearPolitics.com is also a very good website, and is focused more on only politics and elections.

The MSM choose to ignore certain stories that favor the right, what drudge does is he highlights those stories, and yes he also rewrites their twisted headlines, so you really get what the story is about.

Lia,

Why are you so disgusted... I'd actually like to know.

AZGirl

Lia,

Why are you so disgusted... I'd actually like to know.

AZGirl

I've heard that Liberal bloggers are trying to undermine the War on Terror, and I was curious about their motivations.

Looks like I came to the right place to find out, huh?

For the guy posting about the DOW JONES, get your facts straight:

1. the dow jones is an indicator of 30 companies only. These are big, old companies that represent secutiry. Microsoft is one of the youngest. It reflects only how those 30 companies are doing. nothing more.
2. the S&P 500 (500 companies) is down 15% since 2001.
3. NASDAQ is down 55% since 2001.

But the economy is doing great, right? Don't let the facts get in your way.

Sorry! but Drudge is awesome. He simply gets the news, doesn't skew the news and prints it. He has lots of items I don't like but he has 'em so that's what is awesome about him. Also, could it be that Gore and Kerry lost because they are Gore and Kerry? Hmmmmmm, just a thought.

Gore and Kerry lost, because they were Senators. They had a vast national political history before they ran for President that was hard to run away from. Eight of the past nine Presidents have been Governors or Vice-Presidents. The only Senator of the nine (Kennedy) was shot and killed. BTW, one of the other very few "Senators who made it to Presdient" (Lincoln) was shot and killed as well.

The bottom line is that Governors having held no other significant national political office have an easier time shaping the professional image. The personal image problem exists for all candidates all the time. In the end, the American people who bother to vote do consider the professional record over the personal.

What makes it seem like the personal stuff is such a big deal is that it is a big entertainment deal to people who don't really care and aren't going to vote anyway.

90% of voters know who they are going to vote for the day after the primaries are over. The other 10% are going to go off the professional record if they bother to come out and vote.

A hairdo does not get voters to the polls, but it will get the other 200 million people not voting something to talk about with the voting population.

You have no idea how disgusted I feel about people like you.

" think what tipped the balance in the close 2004 race was Laura Bush vs. Theresa Heinz Kerry. Laura helped her husband while Theresa hurt hers (remember the "shove it!" incident after a reporter asked her what she meant by "un-american" activity and her saying that Laura never had a real job?)."

This is actually an example of the way the media distorted Teresa Heinz Kerry. I saw "The View". As a partisan Democrat, I had wondered why Teresa had praised Laura as much as she did. From memory, the question was "How would you be different from Laura as First Lady" Teresa's entire answer spoke of what a good job Laura had done. She then said that an area of difference is that the her work was very much a part of her validation. She then said that Laura's validation came, not from a job as she hadn't had a job since she was young, from other things that were also real. (Followed by a nice comment on Laura.)

Laura hadn't had a job since she was in her mid 20s. This was not said in a negative way at all. This question was a landmine. Saying there was no difference would have been a disaster. This is a valid difference - Teresa has done very serious work via her foundation.

This was NOT an attack on Laura. What followed was an RNC backed by the media attack on Teresa. There was a demand the Teresa apologize, which she graciously did. They then complained that Teresa didn't say that being a stay home mother is an important job. This ignored the fact that Teresa was, herself, an excellent involved stay home mom when her children were young.

No media that I know of replayed or printed the question and the entire answer.

lia,

Is this the best the Left can come up with?

"Some day my 12-year-old son will probably sit at a computer terminal and snuff out "bad guys."

Poor, poor kid to have such a pathetic sicko as a mother. A real american tragedy.

You have no idea how sad some of us feel about people like you.

Matt Drudge didn't lose the elction for Kerry. Kerry lost the election for Kerry.

jana,

I haven't seen all the stories about the news you are reporting.

I saw your post:

The Reich Wing pedophile-lovers have outed the personal information of some of Foley's underage victims, so now these children are getting death threats and hate mail from the sick and perverted wingers, like the Drudge lovers that have been posting here.

Sick, sick people.

In my opinion, until you can back up your accusations with facts, your post is at least as salatious as a pedophiles because you are attempting to deliberately undermine a very competent administration and (Drudge) a good website.

Apparently I missed something. Over 95% of what is on the Drudge website links to stories that OTHER journalists have written. This includes Reuters, AP, ABC, CBS, FOX, etc. A number of comments here state how terrible Drudge is........for what.....assembling a sample of news articles HE DID NOT WRITE!! It might be a good idea to go and complain to the actual source.

"Some day my 12-year-old son will probably sit at a computer terminal and snuff out "bad guys."

Poor, poor kid to have such a pathetic sicko as a mother. A real american tragedy.

Speaker Dennis Hastert's job is on the line as members of the House ethics committee decide how to launch a credible investigation of former Rep. Mark Foley's salacious computer messages to teenage pages.

An extraordinary political spectacle surrounded the committee's first scheduled meeting Thursday. Republicans publicly blamed Hastert for failing to take action after he was warned about the messages, and a former Foley aide said he told Republican leaders about the Florida congressman's conduct years earlier than they have acknowledged.

With Republicans concerned about maintaining their congressional majority in the Nov. 7 elections, political support for Hastert was ebbing. Republican officials said at least a few disgruntled members of the GOP rank and file had discussed whether to call on the speaker to step aside. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue.

The Justice Department, meanwhile, ordered House officials to preserve all records related to Foley's electronic correspondence with teenagers. The request for record preservation is often followed by search warrants and subpoenas, and signal that investigators are moving closer to a criminal investigation.

Chris Cilizza
This torrent of drivel and bile from nazis and pedophiles is what you get when you go slumming with halperin and drudge. You'll notice that what they hate more than anything, even Democrats is YOU. They hate journalists and anyone who isn't a rabid nazi like them.

Eye-opening, isn't it?

Drudge is proud to be a member of the Grand Old Pedophile Party.

30 points? I'd say what we have with these drudge suck-ups is negative IQ numbers. The stench is like the death ward in a leper colony.

Reading this sh** makes me want to take a shower.

The Reich Wing pedophile-lovers have outed the personal information of some of Foley's underage victims, so now these children are getting death threats and hate mail from the sick and perverted wingers, like the Drudge lovers that have been posting here.

Sick, sick people.

"I just was on Drudge and clicked on a story and ended up here !?! Imagine my surprise...

Posted by: Wayne in Maine | October 5, 2006 07:26 AM"

This goes a long way toward explaining the 30-point drop in the average poster IQ.

Have you ever tried to play video games against young American kids?

I was one of the first to switch over from typewriters to computers and so I've seen it all when it comes to the computer revolution.

But when my son hit the age of 8, he started beating me every time when it came to computer games.

American boys and girls are always going to kick some serious butt and they are going to do it better than any previous generation because that's what we have always done and always will do. We don't reject anyone, we accept anyone and everyone except people who want to restrict freedom of speech or harm others or impose their views upon others.

Fine words about spirituality are not enough. They have to be backed up by guys like my dad who served in the 100th Division in WWII, or my mother's Canadian brother who went over to Europe as a bomber pilot. The list is endless of the Americans who have fought for freedom.

Some day my 12-year-old son will probably sit at a computer terminal and snuff out "bad guys." Horrible to contemplate the results of American military prowress in action, but it is certainly better than the alternative, don't ya think?????

Bill Clinton's victories in 1992 and '96 were due to the presence of Ross Perot, who absorbed 18.9% and 8.4% of the vote, respectively, mostly from moderate to conservative/libertarian voters who likely would have cast a Republican ballot. George W. Bush won in 2000 and '04 because of the Electoral College, i.e. the "Solid South" having slipped from the Democrats to the GOP since the 1964 Civil Rights Act and Richard Nixon's adoption of a "Southern Strategy" to align his party with white bigots alienated by civil rights and desegregation. A fool like W. could not have won otherwise, without such advantages built in. So-called political junkies are about as honest as vinyl siding salesman when it comes to analyzing the "Big Picture". W. merely hung on in both contests, and Clinton would have lost without Perot in '92 (and there would have been no '96 contest). This is just self-aggrandizement by a class of political pimp promulgating advertisements for themselves.

According to Opinion Research survey commissioned by CNN (.pdf), 39 percent of Americans approve of the job George W. Bush is doing as President, down three points in a week. The President's disapproval rating was up four points to 59 percent over that same time period. By a 58 percent to 41 percent margin, Americans believe "the Bush administration has deliberately misled the American public about how the war in Iraq is going." And on the generic congressional ballot queestion, the Democrats' lead is up seven points among Americans, though effectively unchanged among likely voters, who favor them by a 53 percent to 42 percent margin.

The Wall Street Journal and NBC News (.pdf) also commissioned polling over the weekend and found similar results. Like the CNN poll, the WSJ/NBC poll found President Bush's approval rating at 39 percent, down three points since September. These numbers reflect registered voters rather than all Americans. The WSJ/NBC survey did not ask a generic congressional ballot question, though it did bring up two interesting questions that show movement along those lines. Asked if "what you have seen and heard over the past few weeks made you feel more favorable, less favorable, or had no effect on your feelings about possibly having the Republicans maintain the majority in Congress," just 18 percent of voters responded more favorable while 41 percent indicated less favorable. When asked the same question about Democrats, registered voters were more favorable than less favorable by a 34 percent to 23 percent margin. Importantly, when registered voters were given arguments for and against the so-called "compromise" detainee legislation, 47 percent opposed it and 43 percent supported it.

Taken together, these polls indicate that things may indeed be beginning to move in a negative direction for both congressional Republicans and President Bush -- even as voters have yet to have time to fully digest the news and apparent cover-up of Mark Foley's immoral and potentially illegal dealings with teenage pages.

"1. The 'all in good fun' defense. Tony Snow, the White House press secretary and one-time conservative commentator, tried this one yesterday. He dismissed Foley's chatter with the kids as 'simply naughty.'

"2. The 'yeah, well, what about Bill Clinton?' defense. This one was to be expected. Commentator Ben Stein wrote yesterday that Foley is just 'a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys,' but that's nothing compared to 'a man named Bill Clinton who did not send suggestive emails as far as we know, but who had a barely legal intern give him oral sex. . . .

"3. The 'who's out to get us?' defense. Mark Levin, an attorney for a conservative legal foundation, blogged Sunday that the real outrage in the Foley case is that somebody was leaking about Foley to the press on the eve of the '06 elections: 'The timing of this revelation has more to do about helping Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats than protecting teenagers.' (But Brian Ross, who broke the saga late last week on the ABC News website, indicated in a New York Times story today that his sources were Republican.)

"4. The 'homosexual agenda' defense. One top religious conservative group, the Family Research Council, broke its silence on the story late yesterday by arguing that, even though 'the slow response' of House leaders is noteworthy, 'the real issue' is that Foley is proof of the depravity of gay behavior -- because he demonstrates 'the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse.' (Actually, many abuse experts have long concluded the overwhelming majority of men who sexually abuse children live their lives as heterosexual men.)"

"1. The 'all in good fun' defense. Tony Snow, the White House press secretary and one-time conservative commentator, tried this one yesterday. He dismissed Foley's chatter with the kids as 'simply naughty.'

"2. The 'yeah, well, what about Bill Clinton?' defense. This one was to be expected. Commentator Ben Stein wrote yesterday that Foley is just 'a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys,' but that's nothing compared to 'a man named Bill Clinton who did not send suggestive emails as far as we know, but who had a barely legal intern give him oral sex. . . .

"3. The 'who's out to get us?' defense. Mark Levin, an attorney for a conservative legal foundation, blogged Sunday that the real outrage in the Foley case is that somebody was leaking about Foley to the press on the eve of the '06 elections: 'The timing of this revelation has more to do about helping Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats than protecting teenagers.' (But Brian Ross, who broke the saga late last week on the ABC News website, indicated in a New York Times story today that his sources were Republican.)

"4. The 'homosexual agenda' defense. One top religious conservative group, the Family Research Council, broke its silence on the story late yesterday by arguing that, even though 'the slow response' of House leaders is noteworthy, 'the real issue' is that Foley is proof of the depravity of gay behavior -- because he demonstrates 'the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse.' (Actually, many abuse experts have long concluded the overwhelming majority of men who sexually abuse children live their lives as heterosexual men.)"

Wow, what vitriole about Drudge.

I got bored reading the maligning comments from the Libs and thought I would toss in my two cents from a real person instead of a Liberal spin machine.

Yeah, we all know that that Leftied do that. They pose as "real people" but are they really real people?

That's for you to decide.

For so many Lefties to attack a guy like Drudge who for the most part is only listing links so that we can all examine the facts... well, that's shameful, isn't it?

But Liberals apparently have no other option than to attack anyone with true character and claim that the person of character is wrong.

It makes me want to barf.

Why do I even bother posting this... those of us in the know will always "get it" and those of you who want to subvert everything that makes America great and support radical Islamacists are never going to get it, are you?

Call me a right wing nutjob if you want, but if the islamofascists ever have their way here in America, you Liberals will be the first to get your heads cut off.

I'm a spiritual person but nowadays I vote a strict Republican ticket and I'm sure I'm not the only intelligent person who feels a little guilty about ignoring the good things the Lefties have to say out of total disgust for the bad things they have to say.

Here's a little something to think about... something from Drudge... So don't worry, your sons and daughters will never wake up to read something like this in the LA Times after the Islamofascists take over because American children "get it" and always have, always will. My father and my grandfather and my uncles, etc. went to war and surprisingly enough came back alive after doing amazing things and winning so many medals. Our family has been lucky in war.

The same can't be said for the warmongerers who forced my family members to take up arms, can it?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3311189,00.html

Would the Drudge bashers rather that the candidates' foibles not be made public? I note that not disputes the truth of anything he says. . . can't say that about the drivebys: NYT, WAPO, LAT, NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC. . . which is guilty today of pretending that the foleymail involved an 'underage' page while being fully aware (if they can add) that such was a lie! Show me such an outrageous lie put out by Drudgereport.com.

Wonder how many REPUBILCAN PEDOPHILEs will get outed today?

I wonder how many REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILES will be outed today...

'I broke this angle on Monday, reporting that Fordham, Foley's former chief of staff, had tried to cut a deal with ABC's Brian Ross to suppress the seamier details of the scandal. If Ross would withhold the sexually graphic IMs from the Florida congressman, Fordham said, ABC could have the exclusive on Foley's resignation. Ross, not surprisingly, refused.

What I quickly learned was that Fordham had another job: chief of staff to Rep. Tom Reynolds, the New York Republican who happens to head the House GOP campaign committee.

So you had the top aide to the House's senior GOP campaign guy trying to keep the seedy details out of the media. No wonder some critics are charging cover-up. That's what's driving this whole thing, the sense that key Republicans were more concerned with the politics of the Foley mess than protecting the teenagers he was hitting up online.'

WASHINGTON POST EDITORS:

Would you please post an email address where I may refer you to offensive comments? The link you have above for such isn't working for me, and there's some white supremacist neo-nazi comments among the above I found offensive and wanted to report.

WASHINGTON POST EDITORS:

Would you please post an email address where I may refer you to offensive comments? The link you have above for such isn't working for me, and there's some white supremacist neo-nazi comments among the above I found offensive and wanted to report.

Psssss!Pleease

Most of Drudge's info on his website is from other news sources and it directs you to that news source's website. It just so happens that Drudge has become more popular than CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times, Washington Post and LA Times when it comes to internet news.

Cillizza is an idiot and should be more careful and less reckless when he points out why Kerry lost the election. He lost the election because 59 million people voted for George Bush. Every left media outlet in the world tried to bury Bush before the election, including the Washington Post.

I knew there was a link to some sinkhole in the fever swamps -- man you people have like one brain between the lot of you. Can't you do anything but obssess over your hatred of Democrats and newspapers?

Really, sick limited individuals.

Another tidbit about the 2000 election that is conveniently forgotten by the left. The MSM, Peter Jennings comes to mind, inadvertantly (yeah right) took an extremely tight race and declared victory for Algore one hour before the polls closed in the CST panhandle counties. These areas voted largely Republican and it is logical and reasonable to assume that Bush lost many votes from this MSM tactic. Republicans returning home from work decided that they could forgo voting if their vote was not going to make a difference for electing Bush. Many states were left uncalled, but not Florida where the stakes were so high.

InvestigateTheName are you being sarcastic or serious?
Either way, it is a great question .... and brings up why Kerry lost. Not becasue of Drudge, but because of Kerry's own image of being a "metrosexual bottom". John Kerry couldn't even get TOP billing with his own wife. That really answers the problem Kerry had ... his own image, created by his own actions and words. Drudge only showed us Kerry's own behavior. The real reason he lost is America wants someone who is on TOP, not a bottom, for a president. Just ask President Clinton and Monica.

THE DEMOCRAT PARTY'S MANIFESTO READ # 30 & LAST SENTENCE

1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by lack of Federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the school system that can't teach a fourth grader how to read is some how the best qualified to teach those same children all about sex.

3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.

4. You have to believe there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by Americans driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that business creates oppression and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that the U.S. Military, not evil and tyrannical regimes, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, or Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is all about "progress" and not power. She just wants to help us out of the archaic system of governing that we have been subjected to since our founding.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge. (I've got news for you. It has never worked because the RIGHT people have been in charge.)

18. You have to believe Republicans telling the truth belong in jail, but a cheat, liar and sex offender belongs in the White House and you would vote him back in there in a New York Minute (if you could).

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.

21. You have to believe that the vociferous minorities who protest against prayer and saluting the flag in school have far more rights than the majority who believe in God and country, and want these values instilled in our young children.

22. You have to believe in MOB RULE and not RULING THE MOB (The Republican way).

23. You must not listen to Rush Limbaugh.

24 Trade Unions and Trial Lawyers are our strength and power.

25 The Main Stream Media and Hollywood are our propagandists.

26- FEMINISTS and FAGS are the men of our party.

27- The Terri Schiavo case proves we and a two-timing husband have more power than GOD and 2 loving parents.

28 WE HAVE TO CUT & RUN FROM IRAQ BECAUSE IF

THE U.S. HELPS THEM WIN - WE LOSE.

29 WE AND THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA MUST NEVER LET THE TRUTH

ABOUT TWA FLIGHT 800 (www.cashill.com) ANDTHE ARKANSAS PRISON TO CANADA BLOOD SCANDAL ( www.factor8movie.com) TO GET OUT TO RUIN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

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30 LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE ARE THE PARTY FOR THE LOSERS IN

LIFE AND WE (The elitists--Kerry & Soros) CAN ONLY KEEP OUR POWER BY KEEPING THEM

THERE.

31 You have to swear to the : THE DEVIL'S CODE

HIS HEART DOES NOT EXIST
HE SPEAKETH WITH A FORKED TONGUE
HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WICKED
HIS SWORD SLAYS THE DEFENSELESS
HIS WRATH UNDOES THE INNOCENT
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BUT NOT TO THE: THE KNIGHT'S CODE

HIS HEART KNOWS VIRTUE
HIS TONGUE SPEAKS ONLY TRUTH
HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WEAK
HIS SWORD DEFENDS THE HELPLESS
HIS WRATH UNDOES THE WICKED

THIS WAS THE OATH OF A FIGHTER PILOT. Keep forwarding and add more

PS-THE COWBOY AND FIGHTER PILOT IS AMERICA'S VERSION OF OLD EUROPE'S CHIVALRY AND KNIGHTHOOD.

PSS - BOBBY KENNEDY WAS KILLED BY SIRHAN SIRHAN A PALESTINIAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE KILLED BY ALI MEHMET AGCA A TURKI