Crying on the Senate floor, our hero bows out. Too bad, it would have been fun.

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Hillary? Edwards? Kerry????
Here we go again.
Either of these names on a ballot will ensure another Republican victory in 08, guaranteed. I will not vote for either of those three names. The Dems need some REAL candidates for a change. Obama seems promising, let's wait and see.

Remember, Kerry voted FOR the war you fools. He really needs to sit down already. What does he stand for anyway? Will the Democratic party ever stop shooting themselves in the foot!!#@$#@@#%

Kerry is the only hope for the Democrats in 2008.. osama just a DFN

Kerry-Patton will run, (his huge ego and his wife's money), but he will loose. The majority of his support came form anti-Bush voters, and that will not be the case in '08. When you insult millions of active duty military and vets as being drooling high school drop-outs, you start off millions of votes behind. But it will be entertaining...will he be an X Navy Seal, a former Green Beret or perhaps a deep cover CIA agent working out of Cambodia....the excitement builds!

Kerry will run. Kerry will win. End of story.

Osama Obama, yes!
And let's not forget his contribution to the war on drugs. With a nose like a vacuum, he's taken more drugs on the street than Bill Clinton and his brother combined.
Obama '08..yes!

That's right - we need another white male like George W Bush. (Read my sarcasm.)

No one with an open mind would think that all Obama has going for him is his skin color. He has as much experience as nearly anyone in the field, he has the most impressive academic credentials, charisma, fundraising ability, appeal to moderate voters, and ability to pull Black vote in key swing states.

I don't know anyone who loved John Kerry in 2004. They voted for him b/c they hated Bush, and assumed Kerry was competent electable. Kerry is now the loser of the 2004 election against a very weak president. No one liked Kerry then, and no one likes him now after his stupid botched joke.

Bill Jacobs is right that Kerry is the only commander in chief type that the Democrats have. I also agree about needing a white male. If Obama had a Colin Powell resume plus a term in the Senate, OK. But he's a presidential level version of the Harold Ford Senate campaign: lots of media hype; he's a new kind of black Democrat, i.e., a Joe Lieberman kind of black Democrat; if you don't vote for him, you're a racist. It didn't work for Harold Ford and will do worse in a presidential campaign where people have more time to think about it.

Kerry-Patton hero quotes...on Meet the Press, April 18 1971

"..I committed the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed..."

"..I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."

So why wasn't Kerry-Patton tried the same as Lt. Calley? Surely, shooting a wounded, un-armed teenaged kid in the back is right up there with Lt. Calley style warefare. Nothing like that has happened in Gitmo...and liberals are still having leaking problems in their Huggies over the humane treatment of prisoners there.

Your're right, he was for his medals before he was against them and threw them away.

Then he was for them again when he needed to look like a war hero.

But thats ok Max. His book was written at a time when Kerry was for plagiarism. You see, he was FOR plagiarism before he was AGAINST it.

He was FOR his comrades in Vietnam before he called them criminals. Then he was FOR them again when he needed to look like a war hero.

All lies by Kerry can be excused by looking at the context of what he was looking to achieve at the time he said it.

Which ever way the wind blows...

Kerry-Patton is not only a phony war hero, he's also a Plagiarist. http://www.nysun.com/article/3775

Add that to his rap sheet along with widow hunting.....

The sad thing about this blog is that 99% of the people who actually read it have made up their mind before reading any posts so why bother arguing. And seriously, the personal attacks that lack any intelligent arguements are sad because they reflect the way too many people feel about political candidates. They are too lazy to learn anything else about them than their party affiliation and what negative attack ads tell them to think.

Lets just all agree on the facts.

-Kerry demanded Purple hearts from his doctors for a couple of paper cuts when real heros were losing limbs.

-Kerry ran away from his comrades after 16 weeks when real heros were re-enlisting for several years.

-Kerry re-enacted his 'heroics' on video for his future storytelling campaigns.

-Kerry spent the next several years calling the real heros 'criminals'

It sounds like you pansy ass liberals are hard up for real war heros and this 'botched joke' of a human being is all you can come up with. This is why you whine so much. you are desperate to show that liberals can be strong on defense.

If you want to run a war hero against the Republicans in '08, you will have to do better than John Flipity-flop Kerry.

Lets just all agree on the facts.

-Kerry demanded Purple hearts from his doctors for a couple of paper cuts when real heros were losing limbs.

-Kerry ran away from his comrades after 16 weeks when real heros were re-enlisting for several years.

-Kerry re-enacted his 'heroics' on video for his future storytelling campaigns.

-Kerry spent the next several years calling the real heros 'criminals'

It sounds like you pansy ass liberals are hard up for real war heros and this 'botched joke' of a human being is all you can come up with. This is why you whine so much. you are desperate to show that liberals can be strong on defense.

If you want to run a war hero against the Republicans in '08, you will have to do better than John Flipity-flop Kerry.

Afraid of Kerry? Please...he's the gift that keeps on giving!

I say John Edwards...Because EVERYONE deserves a pony!!

Why is it that no matter what the topic is, the right-wingers immediately resort to personal attacks, nastiness, lies, and distortions? Get off the personal attacks (both on the politicians and fellow posters alike) and stick to a discussion of the issues. If you don't like Kerry, fine. But there's no need to resort to childish name calling to get your point across. This isn't the 4th grade. It just goes to show that no matter what the venue, the ultra-conservative right has nothing constuctive to say or contribute.

If you can't discuss the topics in an intelligent manner without resorting to personal attacks, then STAY OFF THIS BLOG!

Now, in terms of Kerry, I think had the Repubs not "fixed" Ohio and to a lesser extend, Florida, Kerry would now be President (as would Gore in 2000). People seem to forget that the Republicans had to resort to unbelievably aggressive purging of voter rolls, the creation of unrealistic voter eligibility requirements, changing polling locations without notification to voters, unfair allocation of voting machines to various precincts, voter intimidation, corporate-owned ballot boxes whose counts cannot be verified, and so on, and so on, and so on in order to win in both 2000 AND 2004.

That said, I think Kerry's performance in the 2000 election makes him an unrealistic choice this time around. He played it too safe, refused to respond to lies and false attacks, and left many Democrats feeling completely emasculated. I think he can do much more good for this Country staying in the Senate.

I'll say it again, look for Gore to announce his candidacy in April/May of this year and would be very excited about a Gore/Obama ticket.

I enjoyed your story on Sen. Kerry's plans to run for president again. The story was a well informed inside view that is hard to find. The one aspect of Sen. Kerry that could be interesting is a humorous view of his efforts. He reminds me of the comic movie 'Spinal Tap' about a has-been rock band that don't have any perspective on themselves. I would guess Sen. Kerry will forge on in his usual
oblivious manner. Kerry seems to listen to no one. As a teenager he apparently decided to copy Jack Kennedy's life. But since Sen. Kerry lacks Jack Kennedy's magic personality, he reverts to becoming
Dick Nixon by pursuing his lofty goals with the determined hard work of trying to ingratiate himself to Democratic politicos all over the country. A friend
of mine thinks he may even revert to a 'Checkers' style presentation, but using a fancier kind of dog.Kerry's soul seems on an impossible quest for the social status he couldn't get in prep school. Doesn't anyone in the press just find this guy weird? The guy probably tosses and turns at night because he isn't president. Hopefully, Sen Kerry will run again
because a lot of people really do miss Dick Nixon and the world can always use a laugh.

Every singlke swiftvet lie has been exposed and discredited. Not a single one of O'Neill's charges turned out to be true, and the whole hoax was financed by Tom Delay's slush funds in Texas. http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/behindsbv.htm

Also, McCain is on record saying the swiftvets for "truth" are dishonest, dishonorable and despicable human beings. So how can McCain use that garbage? He can't.

Kerry an elitist? Hold on. Bush is from the most elite familym in the US and his policies are for and by the economic elite. Kerry is for higher taxes on the elite and for much greater help for the poor and middleclass. So how can that be elite? Because his former Republican wife inherited money? Fine. But Kerry himself was not born with money. He has worked all his life. Not a single year in his life was he able to loaf on dad's dough like GW Bush did. Mitt Rommey is also more elite. So is Gore actually. His dad was a rich senator. So this "elite" business is of course just more rightwing BS. In fact our two greatest presidents may be FDR and JFK, both from rich elite families. But Kerry's parents couldn't even afford his tuition at school. They were lucky John had a rich aunt who helped them out.

Notice the rightwing GOP posters slamming Kerry here (with BS of course). This proves that the GOP is afraid of Kerry, but not afraid of Hillary or Obama. They kjnow they can smear a woman or a black, but they can't smear Kerry again. All that smearvet nonsense was proven false a long time ago.

Always pay attention to who the GOP attacks the most, because that's who they do not want Dems to nominate.

Let's be honest, Dems. The chances are we need a white male candidate to win, and someone very qualified as well. Also, Hillary, Obama, Edwards all have negatives too, big ones. Kerry did an amazing job in 2004 coming back from 30% behind Howard Dean. He had to endure cancer surgery and losing his voice a dozen times. He raised 150 million bucks. Sure he made some mistakes, but so did Gore in 2000. So does everyone. You think Hillary or Obama are never going to make gaffes and mistakes? And one more thing, the smears they hit Kerry with in 2004 and the Ohio cheating, they cannot use again. All that BS was a single0use slimebomb. PLus, since Kerry can probably win New Hampshire and do well in Iowa, he's an automatic contender. Also has more than 10 million in the bank. By contract the Edwards campaign is in debt.

So I say be very nice to Kerry and forgive him for all perceived flaws. Because we may desperately need him to beat McCain. If the country wants a commander in chief type, and a white male, Kerry is almost alone as a Dem contender. Unless Wes Clark really picks it up.

http://www.swiftvets.com/swiftvetsandpows/ Take the time to listen to the real heros.

It also comes down to what states they can win. I think Gore has a chance of carrying the west (CO, NM, IA, even NV) and maybe that elusive south (FL and TN). I don't see Kerry getting many of those.

ProudGrunt
Kerry-Patton was one of many who slandered the returning troops. Are you really that numb.
All the Swift Vets except Kerry-Patton served a full tour in Viet Nam. Some more than that. Kerry-Patton, driven by his family motto "Three Purple Hearts and I'am outto here" spent all of his four months fabricating a way out. An honorable cause, suffered by honorable men who had to come home and listen to Kerry-Patton call them criminals. American POW's forced to listen to Kerry-Patton calling them criminals. They said nothing for 30 years until the coward Kerry decided he wanted to be Commander-In-Chief. A coward, a slacker, in charge of the pepole he despises the most. Let him run again...men of character will speak out again.

ProudGrunt
Kerry-Patton was one of many who slandered the returning troops. Are you really that numb.
All the Swift Vets except Kerry-Patton served a full tour in Viet Nam. Some more than that. Kerry-Patton, driven by his family motto "Three Purple Hearts and I'am outto here" spent all of his four months fabricating a way out. An honorable cause, suffered by honorable men who had to come home and listen to Kerry-Patton call them criminals. American POW's forced to listen to Kerry-Patton calling them criminals. They said nothing for 30 years until the coward Kerry decided he wanted to be Commander-In-Chief. A coward, a slacker, in charge of the pepole he despises the most. Let him run again...men of character will speak out again.

Looks like Maximus Gluteus' 21 years in the Navy were wasted. He has no concept what "fellowship" means to combat veterans.

"I trust the Swift Vets" and not the people who served by Kerry's side in combat.

Un f'ing believable!

Gluteus, MikeB has a great point, your slandering of Kerry is no different from the people who scorned returning vets three decades ago? Your Hate for Hate's Sake position makes you no different from the anti-war protester that you despise so much.

You should never use the phrase "Support the Troops!" again without admitting to yourself that it is a hollow phrase because you so also demean people who served.

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I want John Kerry in the White House in 2008. Not Clinton (phony) or Obama (inexperienced). We need John Kerry even more now.

Now the Democratic party is ready and it is thanks to John Kerry who campaigned tirelessly for Dems nationwide. I don't care for the Clintons who are trying to get adopted by Bush senior.

I want a real Democrat, a real progressive a real leader to repair America now. Kerry has the policies ready to fix our problems in 2008. I say Run John Kerry!! I got your back and will volunteer!!!

Kerry should run. He has experience America needs. No candidate is perfect. Obama has never been test or vetted. He could easily flame out just as quickly as he rose.

Kerry's been through it all many times. I think he's learned a thing or two and it would be foolish to rule him out or underestimate him as most did in '04.

The guy who TOOK A DIVE IN 2004?

No thankyou John COHEN Kerry.

CC comments that this would be the first time since Adlai Stevenson (hardly an auspicous example) that the Democrats have nominated someone four years after losing. On the Republican side, Nixon was renominated 8 years after losing, but for renomination four years on you have to go back to Thomas Dewey - 1944 and 1948. Unless, of course, you count people who lost VPOTUS and then got renominated in the top slot. Then you have Mondale (80 and 84) and Dole (76 and 96) more recently than Stevenson & Nixon. Of all those mentioned, only Nixon won, (though Mondale had previously been elected VPOTUS, in 76, his nomination for POTUS came four years after losing and eight years after winning). To find a candidate of either party elected POTUS four years after losing in same position I think you have to go back to Grover Cleveland.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

Discussions of the 2004 campaign can't do without an unusual book that harkens back to the 'new journalism' of Norman Mailer and others, using a more literary style to tour American history and current events. It's not really about the 2004 campaign in a "Making of the President" sense of covering all the campaign events but turns the campaign into a map of the American mind, specifically of how America's guiding belief systems aren't working well anymore. But it's a fun look at the campaign along the way. It's called "Mything in Action". That's as in myths, national myths. It's the "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail" of the 2004 campaign, but its more serious than Thompson. It's the best book on a political campaign in a long time. Some great prose style. I got mine on amazon. Author's name is Lago.

My question has been answered. Thanks.

That snswers my?? Thanks.

The comments have stopped or my computer is not working. which one?

Kerry-Patton was there for four months. He was there only for his political future. Three purple owies and a Silver Star and shooting an unarmed kid in the back, all in just a few weeks. The after action reports were written by ....Kerry. He's a fruad from the beginning and to this day. I trust the dozens of Swift Vets and not the less than six who speak for Kerry-Patton. The fact that he still denegrates thoes in the military says he still has a lot of guilt about what he did in Viet Nam and when he came back. I'am sorry to interrupt your wet deram about this phony hero...but it's time you faced the truth. The fact that the few are loyal to him is more of a statement about their good character and not his. As with Clinton, too many would have to be lying for the one to be telling the truth.

Gore is my first choice, but I would have no problem at all voting for Kerry. Anybody that the Democrats nominate is going to be smeared endlessly. It happened to Gore in 2000 and it happened to Kerry in 2004. The fact that Democrats did the work for the Republicans by backing away from Kerry after the 'botched joke' was despicable. It showed why Dems are labeled "spineless".

Kerry (and Gore for that matter) got a raw deal and either one of them will make a great President. Hell, it's almost impossible to do any worse than what we have now.

Reading so many of the comments included Kerry being a loser in 2004 as a reason for him not to run again. But, if you followed the vote counting shenanigans you know that Kerry did win despite his below average campaign. Having said that, I would rather he not run as too few will take him as a credible candidate. Now John Edwards is becoming quite the Progressive, but I don't think he would ask Kerry to run as his VP.

MikeB: We disagree at times on some things but this crowd today seems willing to post anything and everything that is just the opposite of what this blog is all about. I have tried to not respond to them directly for it would be useless. These Swift-Boaters, IMO, have been proven wrong, to my satisfaction, in just about each and every claim that was made on their behalf. None of us that were not there will ever know what the truth really is, but as stated early in this discussion the folks with him, i.e. his crew, are the only ones that know what did happen and as I recall they were the ones that supported him.

Maximus Excurcio - "...Your "wing man" has to be there. Kerry..was not. He was running for office and for his life". A lie and it is time it was exposed. Mr. Kerry won a silver star when, under fire, he ran his boat into the bank and jmped over the side to rescue an injured crewman. In doing so, he drew his side arm and shot the Viet Kong soldier who had wounded that man dead. And, this was witnessed by every man on his boat, by the wounded man he recued and by the crewmen of another boat involved in that recue. No photo op and it doesn't sound to me like John Kerry was running *from* anything nor *for* anything. He was merely trying to save the life of an American serviceman. Such bravery doesn't deserve the sort of distortion and lies that you dish out. I keep reading posts right wingers here about honoring servicemen no matter how we might feel about a conflict (and I happen to feel that way), but you are not honoring them by this and similar posts. You talk about it, but your posts about Mr. Kerry are tired retreads of the underhanded crap dished out by Karl Rove and the swine he hired to disort John Kerry's military records. Whether you agree with Mr. Kerry's politcis isn't important at the moment. Honoring is sacrifice most certainly is! How on earth can you condemn the dirtbags that threw paper bags filled with excrement on our returning soldiers from Vietnam and then turn around and do exactly the same thing to John Kerry, returning soldier? How is it that you permit Karl Rove and George Bush and the other cowards, perverts, and draft dodgers that staff the Bush Whitehouse? You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

ProudGrunt

Kerry-Patton was a part of a squadron, not much different than a squardron of aircraft. Your "wing man" has to be there. Kerry-Patton was not. He was running for office and for his life. He even bought a movie camera to film his "heroic acts". Any chance you've seen that bit of Hollywood? Kerry-Patton is one who admited to commiting atrocities. Google his senate appearance...

Kerry run again? Suddenly I feel like putting on my flip-flops.............

The longer I stick around here, the more it becomes clear to me that the right wing really has no clue about what it is up against in Obama. Guess what, few of the center 30% both parties are fighting for care that his middle name is Hussein or he snorted coke during a troubled adolescence. He's a committed Christian and disarms problems like the cocaine by admitting in a direct and upfront manner - which means every one of his issues gets his frame in the media. Two years from now things like this will be old hat. He's taking the arrows out of your quiver one by one.

I will be thrilled if republicans go into '08 with McCain or Romney and nothing new on the policy front except a soft commitment to fixing corruption, stay the course in iraq/GWOT, and their successful '04 smear strategy. It will be a massacre. About the only thing you can legitimately pin on Obama will be lack of experience, and he'll add a heavyweight VP and promise strong cabinet appointments (Gore EPA anyone?). Besides, the likely republican candidates are similarly inexperienced (Romney, Giuliani) or really old and tied to the Iraq war (McCain).

Maximus Gluteus - Thanks for your service, but that also means you should know better.

You should also know that if you were under ambush fire in a canal that "200 yards away" may as well have been "back in the World." Your command responsibility was within feet of you.

I can take Kerry or I can leave him. It's your right to disagree with him. As a boat driver his crew stood by him. That's all you as a career Navy vet should need to know.

The fabricated B.S. from the "swiftboat" weasels was despicable.

And if you think that atrocities should be swept under the rug and demonize those that admit to atrocities; then you've given every grunt a blank check to do whatever he wants.

Do you really want that?

Best thing we could do for america's future is round up all the conservofascists and ship em to Gitmo...

Why is it that the weakest candidates are the frontrunners? Obama, Edwards, Hillary and Kerry have more holes than Swiss cheese.

Why can't the frontrunners be:
- Gore, former VP, global leader with massive international respect
- Richardson, experienced diplomat and swing state governor, appeals to minorities.
- Clark, military leader, a real Commander in Chief.

I still think Kerry will be a good person to have participating in the debates. Even if the blogs get ruined by days like today, who cares. It is the country that matters, not the blogs. His presence will help add to the content of the whole race.

Please Theresa, can't you make him go away?

Over the whole USA population Kerry has:
- 7% loyal followers.
- 43% who don't want him to run, and want another Democrat candidate to win the election.
- 50% who do want him to run, and want a Republican candidate to win re-election.

He is a good Senator, but he is the epitome of why Senators do not generally become President.

For those who did not listen well to "Meet the Press" Kerry stated that he would open his records "ONCE" he went though them and took everything out that "HE" thought should not be there. For one, since when can someone have a set down with there records and remove stuff they don't want there!!!! I need to make an appointment!!!
Two, It is a fact that Kerry had his discharge upgrade and the code to upgrade it was the one for a less then honorable discharge. Kerry will not release that one, the one you and I see is the upgraded one. So you believe what you wish to believe, he has brain wash you. Me I checked the man out first and what I found was disgraceful. Ask him what he did to our POW's in Nam? He gave them up for trade!!!!! Then he shedded the orginal documents ( a aid caught him and ask what he was doing and said, Oh these are the dups, They weren't they were the orginal documents.
Go ahead and vote for that traitor, I never will and a million other Vets NEVER WILL.

Why the long face John?

Gore will come out of closet and announce he will be running FIRST GAY president of 2008. Kerry will be his FIRST partner.

I have to go home now guys, my wife wants me to walk the dog and put out the trash.

'Your point about the bulk of of the pro-kerry and anti-kerry comments here is exactly my point. Kerry, whatever his underappreciated and underacknowledged merits, incites such visceral reactions from his opponents that there is no way he can ultimately prevail '

No matter who the dems run, they will get this treatment.

These chickenhawks and eunuchs on the right who demean a war hero are traitors -- in fact, the enemy. They are worse, actually than al queda, because they have no guts and no balls and they believe in nothing.

How do I describe thee John F. Kerry..........let's count the ways.

Self-important, disingenuous, pseudo-intellectual, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting, petty, grandiose, mean-spirited, affected, effete ass, effete snob, bore and boorish............why am I torturing myself over this boob?

Would prefer to describe thee John F. Ferry as former Junior Senator from Massachusetts, former Presidential candidate............

Just go away and stay away before you molt from former to has-been to never-was a serious anything except gold-digger, consummate opportunist and pompous ass!

Annon at 05:18 PM posted a, I think, aside "Back to the draft". There are good reasons for doing away with the all volunteer military and having a draft. TRo begin with, we would never have a Vietnam nor an Iraq again. The American people flat out wouldn't tolerate it. And the rich and right wing cheerleaders who post ad nasium their support for this travesty would simply shut up...or join in a nation wide strike to end it. The only wars we would be involved in would be where very national survival was truly threatened. Another reason is that service to your country is something that people ought to be proud of and it is the duty of all citizens to serve. I, for one, am rather sick and tired of leftists and right wingers being surprised that my sons joined the military in honorable service, that I in my turn did so, and I encourage others to do so. This is OUR country. We got Bush because we, as a people, lost sight of what was important. We've got outsourcing and corporate welfare and corruption and slimmy politican's and "guest workers" and worse, all of which threaten our nations existance. Service is NOT optional.

ProudGrunt

200 yards away is not that much in a Swift Boat. They call them Swift Boats for a reason. And you do have time to worry about it when you are counting on that crew just 200 yards away. Leaving Viet Nam with a band aid on your arm and a few grains of rice in your ass does not make you a hero, real or make believe. Coming home and calling the men you abandoned war criminals does not make you a hero. Although I was not a real honest to gawd hero like Kerry-Patton, I did spend 21 years in the Navy, and I always respected by bettors. Kerry-Patton was not even aware of his.

Hey proud grunt, those guys wanted to get as far away from the action as Kerry did, you think they're gonna admit they cut and ran?

More wasted space on a candidate that has no shot in 2008.

This campaign doesn't officially begin until Gore announces his intentions. If he's running, it's game over for both the Dems and Reps that are are running.

GORE 2008

ProudGrunt - Parent of two sons in the military right now, one in Iraq and the other back from there. I'm former Navy - a clerical twit and bench warmer. I TRIED to join the Marine's during Desert Storm because I'm an engineer and the Pentagon morons didn't have a slightest idea of how to use the Patriot batteries, they almost took me too, but eventually they turned me down because of age.

Tanna Touva:

I am from MN and I graduated from high school a year behind a guy named Kerry - a very good basketball and football player. While unusual, it IS a guy's name as well as a girl's name.

Kerry conceded one day after he promised to make sure every vote was counted and counted correctly. Sorry, no second chances for you Kerry. The same goes for you too Edwards. You both had your chance, but you let Bush/Cheney steal another election, so neither of you two deserve to run again.

...haven't seen too many Vilsack supporters...Sharpton, anyone?...where the hell is Kusinich when we need a real leader?!!...well we still have Clark and then there is Al, Ed & John, yeah, John, he can score, can't he...well, we still have Clinton, don't we??? It doesn't matter because we can always change our mind...too many leaders and not enough time. If Obama wins, we can get 100% of the black vote and prove the Republicans are racists and war mongers!!!

Maximus Gluteus and the other "release the records" pinheads.

Those swiftboat lieutenants who claimed to know exactly what Kerry was doing while they were 200 yards away in the middle of firefights had to have 1) the eyesight of an eagle and 2) were derelict in their own duty.

In the middle of a firefight you don't have time to worry about what's happening 200 yards away.

Read their crap sometime and you know that they are full of B.S. You don't fabricate the truth about combat just because a guy you don't like is a self-promoter.

MikeB's correct about Kerry's crew. They are the only people who would truly know what he was doing in those firefights and they stood by him. That's what counts for me.

Just as a matter of curiosity, what are your military qualifications?

GET ON YOUR KNEES AND BEG LIKE YOU NEVER KNEW YOU COULD IN YOUR ENTIRE LIVES FOR AL GORE TO RUN. HE IS YOUR ONLY, ONLY HOPE. TRUST ME ON THIS!!!!!!!!!

Blarg, please... I'm glad you agree he's henpecked. I come from Udar Pradesh where your last names are our first. Learn something every day. We looked up name for daughter in name book and under Kerry,it said "girls name,except on Cape Cod", honest.

I wasn't going to run, before i decided to run.

The chickenhawks really hate an actual man. Makes 'em look like the poofs they are in comparison.

Bring back the draft!

I remember his words..."I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty" as he gave his acceptance speech at the '04 DNC. "I'm John Kerry and I have a plan (for Iraq)". Well, John, its been over two years and the country really needs your plan. Why the secret? In '08, I will vote for these fighting words, "bring em on"!!!
J Jacobs

Good bye Millie. I'am going to miss that girl! How do you know she's not master of her domain?

i'm not a good person. i'm sorry to everyone.

Not surprising.
The New World Order needs to make sure that skull and bones is represented somehow.
Oh how the fake Left/Right paradigm becomes more obvious as time goes on.

Stanhope in 2008!

No more War
No more North American Union
No more BS war on "terrorism".

Re-investigate 9/11!

Best for anyone with a brain to just leave them to drool among themselves...

I think Millie should run for president maybe Blarg as Veep.

God bless him...He will bring socialism to it's right place in Ameirca and will put all you right wingers in the concentration camps where you belong.

Poor Millie. She doesn't understand that today we have an druge infestation. That's what it is, blarg. It's happened before. They have only a single rudimentary brain between them, like bees. That's why they swarm and attack all saying the same things. Poor things don't know what else to do with themselves, except masturbate. Same difference.

From the 1980 election through the 2000 election, I held my nose and voted for the D nominee every four years like clockwork. Then along came John . . . that was simply too much. I held my nose and voted for Bush. (Please don't let the neighbors know--they're all "liberal" but don't much like dissent when it goes against what they're spouting.) Every time JFKerry opened his pie hole, my BS meter went haywire. The guy still makes me glad GWBush won--and somethin' tells me I'm not alone.

I do hope Kerry/Patton runs again in '08. The Swift Boat Vets will be back to smoke his ass again. Who knows, perhaps Kerry will be an "X-Navy Seal" by then. You never know what you'll get in the amazing world of liberal fabrication.

Jon: hahahahahaha -- good one!!

God help us from having to put with that idiot and his wife yet again.

i tink jan carry is the bestest man for the presidancy.

carry 4 ever.

he can sav me from irack

I've never read this blog before. Turns out that was a good use of my time. Where do you people find each other? Enjoy. Don't bother with hateful comebacks. I won't be checking back.

'The Dems need to find a real man, somebody who comes across as a normal human being. A cowboy oil man, yeah that's the ticket.'

LOL -- there isn't a real man in the entire repug party. buncha balless wonders --- look at ther women --ugliest on earth. Most of them are actually men.

'Cowboy' -- more raucous laughter. Yer bush is a CHEERLEADER in college, dear, he wore pompoms!!! POMPOMS! ALL OF YOU LITTLE REPUGS ARE JUST POMPOMS. BBush can't even ride a golf cart.

M,Loutre: "Accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing and in that way you will know what you are doing". That is a quote by me personally and not borrowed from anyone else. I suggest you read it carefully.

I servd in Vetnam and I runned for presadnt befour I didnt run for presadnt...

Unfortunatley, the best person the Democrats have is not running...Evan Bayh, Senator, from Indiana. As Bob Schaffer from Meet the Press,said (after Senator Bayh said he was not going to run) he (Bayh) is probabaly the kind of Democrat we need in the race.

SquirrelCutter, Obama's campaign is in the toilet? When did that happen? He's not even officially in the race yet!

Tanna, when was the last time you met a girl whose first name was John? And did you know that President Bush loves bike-riding, and rides whenever he gets the chance?

Where did these people come from?

Earth to Kerry- Don't run, your support is gone in Iowa and elsewhere.

SquirrelCutter: You're right, but look at your own post for the answer. Your only reason for Barack not winning is that "Obama toked and snorted his campaign into the toilet." Do you really think being honest about trying cocaine once prevents him from being the "real man" who can appear like a normal human being? He's the guy.

A spandex ass, bike riding, wind surfing, henpecked wimp with a girl's first name should never leave Cape Cod or run for president.

FYI: Just in:
2006 was the warmest year in recorded history. This brings me to the suggestion by me and others that Al Gore would be better suited in the Cabinet as head of the EPA, no matter who wins the 08 election. This has been his passion for many years and he is well qualified for that position.

Kerry is just unlikeable. The way he looks, like he has two pork chops on his forehead, and his voice is so droning and stultified, even for a Dem he is just not a guy I can like. Obama toked and snorted his campaign into the toilet. And Her Thighness, she is a smooth one but too much baggage. Edwards? Too prissy. The Dems need to find a real man, somebody who comes across as a normal human being. A cowboy oil man, yeah that's the ticket.

Give it up Lurch.

I'm paraphrasing from memory here, but after the '04 campaign I saw the comment, "Kerry was exposed as the kind of bloviating windbag that you only get by marinating in the senate for about 30 years." That, and his political ineptitude allowed him to be smeared easily. Now, if 2008 is bad enough for republicans, between Iraq and their mediocre candidate options (McCain I guess) Kerry *could* win. I can't imagine, though, that the democrats won't annoint someone more down to earth and with genuine charisma like Obama or Edwards though. Both of these guys are also good at fighting the spin war while keeping their hands clean.

The reporting of the Rosie/Donald "fued/fight" is yet another example of just how much the public love gossip. The media will and does cater to the largest audience they can get for one simle reason, MONEY. They do this by their ratings at any time of the day and charge their advertisers based on these ratings. The same holds true in politics, to an extent, in that a rumor or an outright lie can be started against a politician, or anyone else for that matter, and depending on how well it plays, many folk will indeed believe it to be true. The sad thing is that so many will continue to believe it to be true, no matter what the facts really turn out to be. This is in fact being shown on this blog today.

I voted for Kerry in '04 as the nominated alternate to the mule head that got US into Iraq, and even then couldn't pour the you-know-what out of the boot with the directions written on the heel. Kerry's lack of response to the Swift-boaters, I have come to find out, was telling because they were essentially correct. He did exaggerate his 4 month military service, and was "in-country" to enhance his resume, then return to MAss and try for Congress out of Cambridge/Middlesex County, during the '70s while bad-mouthing our then chaotic and ill-advised mistake in VietNam. (Now known as the worst mistake this Nation made in the 20th century). He now starts to gin up another foray into presidential politics and he is still a STIFF, whose associates will not tell him its over. He's as far as he is going to get, and unless some Dem president in the future puts him in the Cabinet, or on an appellate bench, he will fade away in Louisburg Square, as he should have after '04. I am not surprised that Deval Patrick and the other DEM politicians in MAss will support his candidacy. ANYTHING to get him out of office there, and open things up until Teddy folds and fades.

YES! Let the games begin - cut the Chrisian bashing already. I'm very much a Christian and I am very much a liberal. Also, you would have to look very hard to find anyone identifying themselves as a genuine Christian, much less anyone accepted by Christ as a Christian, remaining who supports Bush. All Bush and compoany have left are the pornographers, the perverts, the unthinking attack dogs of the right, the ethivcally challenged and other followers of Satan. Anyone decent long ago left supporting Bush and the evil swine that got him into power.

The comments today should make you realize Dems should have no mercy on repugs. We should nail them to the wall -- they more than deserve it.

Hang em high!

It is apparent that the folks at BushCo Industries have been taking Max and Moritz as inspirational figures for their hard work of governing. Get what you can while you can, and don't worry about how it affects anyone else. For Max, Moritz, and their cronies at BushCo, it's all about power and the exercise thereof. Just look at a few of the items on the BushCo "Max and Moritz" scorecard:

Katrina - too many residents of New Orleans are still waiting for substantive help, but don't worry: DHS/FEMA contractors have been taken care of. Handsomely, I might add.
More than a few 9-11 Commission recommendations remain unaddressed, but don't worry: the markets for quart-sized ziploc bags and 3 oz bottles of lotions, shampoos, and other toiletries have gone through the roof.
Torture, rendition, and secret prison camps. But don't worry: they're only for the bad guys. Or the people we think are bad guys. Or the people that someone told us were bad guys, after we paid them for every bad guy they brought us. [pdf]
Disregard for habeas corpus, the Geneva Convention, and the Bill of Rights. Warrants for domestic wiretapping? Don't worry: Max and Moritz didn't need any stinking warrants! (Great links in the last thread to Glenn Greenwald, assuming blogger gets its act together. Thanks, scarecrow.)
Signing statements that proclaim "I'll do whatever I want, whenever I want, however I want, no matter what you say."
A feast of tax breaks for the wealthy and well connected, and increasingly expensive doughnut holes for the poor widows on Medicare who need prescription drugs.
Stifling and twisting scientific inquiry at the behest of TheoCon fundamentalists.
Outing an undercover CIA agent in a fit of personal pique at something her husband wrote, then lying to cover it up.
K Street shills, earmarks, and all the other pay-for-play games.
Yep - it's Max and Moritz, role models for the Bush Administration.

After six years of pranks, even DC has had enough. There's a whole raft of farmers and millers, ready to start holding these folks accountable: Waxman (House Oversight and Govt Reform), Conyers (House Judiciary), Skelton (House Armed Services), Lantos (House International Relations), Levin (Senate Armed Services), Leahy (Senate Judicary), Durbin, Feingold, Rockefeller (Senate Intelligence), and a host of Blue America newcomers are anxious to crank up the gristmills for the modern-day mischiefmakers. (Sorry there are only a few links for the Senate committees, but it seems they are still stuck in the 109th Congress on their websites when it comes to their committees - they still show their old GOP chairs!) Abramoff is already in the grinder, along with Ney and Cunningham, but there are plenty more where they came from. Fitz is ready to put Irving into the mill, and who knows what will come out when the gears start to pinch.

Crank up the mills of Congressional Oversight, and bring in the federal juries.

'.and an awful lot about the trash, the human garbage, that would demean him.'

they're not even 'human' MikeB -- they're abortions. None of them has an intact brain. Too bad they're all too chickensh** to join the military --of course they couldn't fight if their lives depended on it. they can barely type, let alone act like a man.

Pure and simple, Kerry is no leader. As Mass' junior senator, he has always hidden under the skirt of Ted Kennedy. He has never come up with an idea of own; he does not take service to our country seriously, (example - he missed all four intel com pub hearing in 1994 which included how to stop another 1993 WTC attack); and he is by no means a 'man of the people', born with a silver spoon in his mouth and chasing rich women ever since. He's a FRAUD.
http://www.liveshot.cc/billions_and_billions.htm

Can you put a moratorium on folks from Massachusetts running for President?!

Romney, Kerry, Dukakis, Kennedy...ugh. The last good Prez to come from Mass. was Calvin Coolidge!

Enuf already!

Without really thinking about it, it seems that even some Democrats are writing off Obama because he "doesn't have experience in foreign affairs." I disagree. What we need is not a manager or an individual with much experience as a politician or in foreign affairs, but a leader with the intelligence to understand complex issues and to learn from his top advisors. Obama - for whatever intangible reason (maybe it is that his appearance represents moving forward, maybe it is his charisma, maybe it's just that he is a Leo!) - is a leader, and it is clear he is smart. Lincoln hardly had experience. Bush had no foreign affairs experience, but then again you cannot blame that for his failures; he was surrounded by top advisers with enormous political experiences. Kerry has more experience, but can he lead? It's a feeling I have, but I think the answer is no. And if you go by the notion that whoever the better leader is wins, then this is the result, but feel free to disagree:

Obama beats Hillary and Edwards (barely).
Rudy, McCain, Romney all seem relatively equal in their leadership. But Rudy may have an edge.

Forget experience. It's the intangible leadership quality that matters.

"He blew it in '04 by not fighting back against the Swiftboaters."

Please, 99 percent of the people he served with in Vietnam told us he was unfit for the Presidency. How do you fight that? With truth.

When he tried to fight it, he was found to be making up stories about Cambodia.

The swiftboaters did us all a favor. They unvieled Kerry for all to see.

I would echo M. Loutre' comments. I, too, was a campaign worker for John Kerry. He is accused by the ight wing attacks here of running an "inept" campaign, but the truth is he tried to run a positive campaign. He would not stoop to the level set by Bush and Rove and the absolute criminals that inhabit the Whitehouse now. I know, the right wing smut lovers, will say "tough" or "hardball politics". But, when a decent man comes along and tries to run a campaign based on ideas and morality and even God, he is answered with libel and character assassination and lies and dirt. There must be a special place in hell reserved for people who stoop so low. The Swift Boar ads were funded by a Bush millionaire. Not one of the "veterans" ever served with Kerry, not one even knew him, and four of them had been dishonorably discharged. All, every single one, whether they were reistered Republican's or not (and half were!) of the men who served under Kerry supported him, stood on stage with him when he announced his candidacy, and every single one of them vote for him. That says an awful lot about Mr. Kerry...and an awful lot about the trash, the human garbage, that would demean him.

This is just another stark reminder of the immense egos which are all too common in politics. That must be the only explanation for why he even thinks he has a shot - or is again entitled to the party's nomination. As an indy voter who leans Dem in general elections - and who voted for Kerry in '04 - there is no way I will ever vote for him in '08. As of now, I'll vote any of the other Dem nominees - even Biden - but I will abstain or vote R if Kerry somehow manages to get the nomination.

Dems- in your heart of hearts, how many of you truly voted FOR Kerry last time because you LIKED him, as opposed to supporting him only because he was NOT President Bush?

Be honest.

Does anyone really want to hear endless attack ads featuring *"I actually voted before it before I voted against it"* all over agiain? His own party will eviscerate him long before the primaries are over; the dems only have themselves to blame for nominating him in '04.

I really hope John "Can I get me a huntin' license?" Kerry runs. There is nothing more humorous than watching a "beautiful person" attempt to act like a man of the people. And Kerry does it with panache.

Start another thread, Chris. This one fell in the sewer.

Kerry's poor acedemic skills have nothing whatsoever to do with his phony military record.

Kerry's military record had some details about his trumped up Purple Hearts that he did not want disclosed. He had the record corrected to reflect the information his campaign had been touting, then and only then, did he sign the 180.

Jawn Kerry served in Viet Nam? I never heard that. Wow.

AMK, did you even read the article? Do you know the difference between medical records and "all" records? John-Patton-Kerry was still an officer in the United States Navy when he called the real heros war criminals. HE did not get an Honorable discharge from the Navy. Let him release those records as well. His discharge was change by Jimmy-attacked by a killer rabbit-Carter.

You know, until he ran for president in '04 I didn't really know much about John Kerry. Oh, I remembered him from the 1971 VVAW efforts; and like most people who were actually paying attention at the time, I remembered that he was one of the key players in breaking the BCCI-Iran-Contra corruption/collusion scandal. But other than that, he wasn't really on my radar during his 20-year career as a senator from a state I didn't happen to live in.

When John Kerry became the Democratic nominee in '04, though, I began volunteering and campaigning on his behalf. Why? In the beginning, it was definitely an ABB -- Anybody But Bush -- effort on my part. After all, I didn't really know much about the guy; but he was our guy instead of their guy, and that was good enough for me at the time.

But a funny thing happened during that campaign. I gradually came to know who John Kerry is, what he had done with his life, what he had done for his country, what his beliefs and principles are, and what kind of man he is in real life. In short, I learned enough about John Kerry to not only support him as an ABB candidate, but to genuinely respect and admire him.

And that respect and admiration continues to this day. I campaigned as hard as I could for John Kerry when he ran for president. I've continued to actively support him as a capable, experienced, and effective player on the national and world stages. I do believe that he is smart, wise, and honest -- all qualities that are far too hard to find in politicians these days.

If Senator Kerry chooses to run for president again -- and let's remember that it is his decision to make, not yours or mine, and that he hasn't made it yet -- then I will campaign as hard as I can for him again. If he chooses not to run, then I will continue to do everything I can to support his activities as a senator of significant stature who works on behalf all the people, not just those who live in Massachusetts.

You know, it's interesting to read the many comments above from all the people who seem to have such virulent dislike of Senator Kerry. If he's as supposedly irrelevant as they claim, then why do they continue to waste so much energy fulminating against him? With a few key exceptions, the comments in this thread are direct indications of the problem that dogged him in '04, and that will continue to dog him in '08 should he choose to run:

It's a well-known adage that Americans don't trust anybody who is smarter than they are. They would rather vote for somebody like George Bush, with his faux folksy I'm-just-as-dumb-as-you-are style, no matter how untrustworthy and irresponsible he has proven himself and his cabal of retreaded neocons to be. He pretends to be just another average guy like us, and we-the-sheeple don't seem to realize what an unflattering comparison that is.

And there's the rub. P.T. Barnum said that nobody has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Unfortunately, many bodies have gone broke, and/or lost elections, by overestimating the intelligence of the American voter. John Kerry is wicked smart, as they say in Boston, and that intimidates the largely insecure and undereducated electorate.

(Many of the people commenting here have claimed that John Kerry is aloof, arrogant, cold, calculating, self-centered -- but that is largely a sign of how insecure they feel about themselves by comparison. For example there is nobody, and I do mean nobody, in the potential race for the White House this time who is anywhere near as cold, calculating, arrogant, and selfish as Mrs. Clinton; yet she seems to have a cadre of defenders here even so. Does anybody accuse them of being paid to post nice things about her online? I think not. Why is that, you reckon? Hmm. I wonder.)

I do agree that if Senator Kerry chooses to run again it will be a bitter, bruising, uphill battle. I've had the pleasure of getting to know the Senator and his wife and some of their family members in person since '04, and I have to admit that I would not want to wish that kind of abuse on them (or anybody else, for that matter.) Many of the comments in this thread are indicative of what kind of vitriolic, knee-jerk attacks they can inevitably expect to receive if he chooses to run for president again.

That being said, if Senator Kerry does choose to run for president again in '08 again, then I will work my asterisk off to help him get elected. If he chooses not to do so, then I will work my asterisk off to help make sure he gets a well-deserved high-level position in whatever Democratic administration does win the presidency in '08. And mark my words, a Democratic administration will be in place int he White House in '08 -- and I'll be working my asterisk off to make sure that happens too, no matter who the nominee may turn out to be.

Thing is, I've come to know the real John Kerry. I believe in him and I trust him, both as a senator and as a man. I do believe that he would be an excellent president, and that if he had won the '04 election for that post -- which he lost by only 30,000 votes, hardly a momentous failure or a mandate for the Bushi'ites, and less than the statistical margin of error given the dubious voting irregularities in places like Ohio and Florida -- then this country would be a far better place today than it is now.

Will Kerry run again in '08? I don't know. That's up to him. Should he run again in '08? I don't know that either. As some of the comments in this thread have pointed out, even with the best of intentions it would be an uphill climb. (Of course, it was an uphill climb in '04 too, so it's rather premature to try to predict success or failure in that regard at this point.)

But if Kerry does run, then I am with him. And if he does not, then I am still with him. I know the man, and I know the politician, and I know that I can trust him. I know he's got my back, just as much as I've got his. And anybody that wants to say otherwise, well... that's their right -- but they're wrong.

Biden/Richardson, hmmmmm some new faces and strong decisive men...a nice change from same ol democratic losing strategies of electing, weak, self-centered...me, me, me, democrats....Bring on the newer stronger blood...I do not see anyone pushing around Biden nor Richardson...but the wayward lefties will vote for one of the people who can't win....AGAIN!!! It's like line, it doesn't matter what you know...only what you can prove...only, in politics, it is, it doesn't matter if you get the far left...it only matters if you can get the numbers in the center to win...uncommitted centrists will not vote for Kerry, Hillary or Obama....

'Other than to liberals, things like honor, duty, loyalty, sacrifice, truthfulness and historical fact do make a difference.'

yeah, tell it to the collection of theives, pornographers, freaks, serial adulterers, murderers, child rapists and AWOL deserters that is the republican party.

AMK is right. He hid his records for quite a long time, but did eventually release them. Remember, they showed his college grades were worse than W's.

'Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger unveiled a bold new plan Monday to give every person in California health insurance coverage -- and other states are already joining in.

Schwarzenegger has proposed a sweeping health care plan to cover California's 6.5 million uninsured, including all children, regardless of their immigration status.'

Hahahah, here's your republican party. Eat it.

Doesn't anyone get it? It's the lack of integrity, stupid.
Whatever other issues might exist, Kerry can't get elected as President for the simple fact that he has no further ability to foist himself off on the American public as being willing to sacrifice his own self-interests to the nation's security or as being qualified as a trustworthy Commander-in-Chief.
1.Kerry is not electable because he conducted himself disgracefully in the early 1970s as a commissioned officer in the US Naval Reserve - consorting with the enemy, (at a minimum) failing to report the anti-war movement's plotting for the assassination of US Sentators, giving sworn testimony to Congress that was patently a lie - activities which all went so far as to negatively affect the character of his discharge from the US Navy, and,
2.Desipte what hyper-democrat Lawrence O'Donnell and the MSM want you to believe, the 250 odd veterans of the Vietnam Swift Boat units and POWs who signed sworn affidavits concerning the facts and effect of Kerry's self-promotion of his Vietnam service were telling the truth, and Kerry will be completely unable to convince the voters that they are not, without simply concocting a new set of what will be obvious straw-man personal attacks, obfuscations and lies.
Other than to liberals, things like honor, duty, loyalty, sacrifice, truthfulness and historical fact do make a difference.

BUSH HAS SOMETHING HE HAS TO HIDE FROM THE PUBLIC. OR RATHER, HE DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING.

MikeB: You put in your 02:36pm comment exactly what I have been saying for a long time now. The media being "liberal" is indeed a joke. I have stated more than a few times that Keith Olbermann is the only one of the MSM types that has been consistently accurate in his reporting, and above all he is not afraid of GW & Company as most of the others not only appear to be afraid but actually are. This is something I have not seen in my close to 60 years of being involved in politics. How this can be changed, I really do not have an answer as to why they fear this Administration so much. I can only hope when the 08 campaign really gets going the changes that should be made, will be.

AMK

Back to M E's original point, Kerry specifically said he would not release the records until he had the record 'corrected'. The 'correction' didn't take place until 2005.

Kerry clearly has something he wishes to hide from the public.

""I'd be happy to put the records out. We put all the records out that I had been sent by the military. Then, at the last moment, they sent some more stuff, which had some things that weren't even relevant to the record.

So when we get -- I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record, and we'll put it out. ""

'ONDON -- Deepening drought in Australia. Stronger typhoons in Asia. Floods in Latin America. British climate scientists predict that a resurgent El Nino climate trend combined with higher levels of greenhouse gases could touch off a fresh round of ecological disasters _ and make 2007 the world's hottest year on record.

"Even a moderate (El Nino) warming event is enough to push the global temperatures over the top," said Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research unit at the University of East Anglia.

The warmest year on record is 1998, when the average global temperature was 1.2 degrees Fahrenheit higher than the long-term average of 57 degrees. Though such a change appears small, incremental differences can, for example, add to the ferocity of storms by evaporating more steam off the ocean.'

JK really is fooling himself, get back your SUV and go back to your wife's vacation home Johnny Boy.

He does have a great economic plan, marry rich..................

JM

- In a concession to the Senate's new Democratic majority, four of President Bush's appeals court appointees have asked to have their nominations withdrawn, Republican officials said Tuesday.

These officials said that William Haynes, William Myers and Terrence Boyle had all decided to abandon their quest for confirmation. Another nominee, Michael Wallace, let it be known last month that he, too, had asked Bush to withdraw his nomination.

Haynes is the Pentagon's top lawyer, and was an architect of the Bush's now-abandoned policy toward treatment of detainees in the war on terror. He had been tapped for the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

WHERE DID ALL THE TERRY SHIAVO WANNABES COME FROM?

'His long-term prognosis is unclear. He has been responsive to his family and physicians, following commands, squeezing his wife's hand and understanding speech.'

which means that he now has more reaasoning power than the entire motley collection of cons here today.

Maximus Erecto:

You are wrong. I would ask you to do a simple google search and then stop typing.

You wrote "It is two years ago this month that this fabricated hero pledged to release his military record on Meet the Press. It still has not happened."

However, in June 2005 Kerry released his records.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/kerry_allows_navy_release_of_military_medical_records/

You are completely off-base factually. Actually let me rephrase that because that may be too complicated for you -- you are wrong.

'Democrats have already lost '08. None of the candidates look even halfway electable. '

LOL -- I tell you MikeB, you asked if all rightwingers were perverts, and I'd have to say, from the quality of their comments, definitely. No wonder they like Santorum and his porn so much -- doesn't look like they cann think above that level.

Really, these are the stupidest people on earth. No wonder they're such bushfans. Did you ever notice how all the ads on the con radio shows are for impotence and hair loss drugs? I mean, the ones that aren't for bankruptcy and really dumb get rich quick schemes?

Here is it in full flower -- america's losers. This is what happens when you have parents that don't believe in abortion, even when the fetus bares no resemblance to a human being.

the best thing that could happen is if the building collapses while all 10 of the dems are debating. now that would be different

Lord, what an absolute joke. It is amazing how the politicians think the US Citizenry is stupid. Lord help us.

The reason Kerry did not fight back against the swift boaters is simple. They were telling the truth. Kerry refusing to open his military records is all the proof you need.

Lord, what an absolute joke. It is amazing how the politicians think the US Citizenry is stupid. Lord help us.

WOW, it is obvious John Kerry is still inhaling (and I mean the very best stuff) if he can even dream he has a chance to be nominated; he is completely DAZED AND CONFUSED.

WOW, it is obvious John Kerry is still inhaling (and I mean the very best stuff) if he can even dream he has a chance to be nominated; he is completely DAZED AND CONFUSED.

WOW, it is obvious John Kerry is still inhaling (and I mean the very best stuff) if he can even dream he has a chance to be nominated; he is completely DAZED AND CONFUSED.

He can't be serious! Is this guy smoking dope? There is no way this man will even win a primary. He is damaged goods. He cannot speak extemporaneously without sounding like a moron or making gaffe. He didn't have the balls to go after the swift boat liars. Instead he went windsurfing and blew the election. I blame him for losing to Bush. That's enough reason right there to dismiss his candidacy out of hand.

AMK, read...but be careful you may learn something. But like most liberals, I am sure you won't let facts get in the way of your arguments.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50306-2005Jan31_3.html

RUSSERT: Many people who've been criticizing you have said, Senator, if you would just do one thing and that is sign Form 180, which would allow historians and journalists complete access to all your military records.

Thus far, you have gotten the records, released them through your campaign. They say you should not be the filter. Sign Form 180 and let historians

Democrats have already lost '08. None of the candidates look even halfway electable. Kerry is a joke. I mean, seriously he's going to run? You've gt to be kidding.

'He is an elitist who clearly only went to Vietnam to film campaign commercials for his political future'

Hey you sonny boy, why aren't you in Iraq? You believe in 'the war' don't you? why are you here?

AMK, read...but be careful you may learn something. But like most liberals, I am sure you won't let facts get in the way of your arguments.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50306-2005Jan31_3.html

RUSSERT: Many people who've been criticizing you have said, Senator, if you would just do one thing and that is sign Form 180, which would allow historians and journalists complete access to all your military records.

Thus far, you have gotten the records, released them through your campaign. They say you should not be the filter. Sign Form 180 and let historians.....

to say damian is a man is an insult to the human race

i think damian wants to have sex with kerry...

or maybe it's mark foley...

Will Ter-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-za wanna pony up beaucoup ketchup-$$$ for this vanity campaign?

John Kerry is a real piece of work. His campaign in 2004 was the definition of incompetence. He is an elitist who clearly only went to Vietnam to film campaign commercials for his political future and once he and his buddies had enough filmed "re-enactments" he conveniently got a cut on his arm and came home. Then the guy has the nerve to highlight his Vietnam service in his campaign. Truly classic.

Did you folks know that John Kerry served in VietNam? Really, he did, just ask him- and he has the home movies to prove it.

JFK= Just for Kerry!

The problem is not with Kerry, but rather with BOTH political parties. Why you ask?? Everything each party does is "for the party" and NEVER for the good of the people. I want leaders who have YOUR and MY best interests at heart, not those who are forced to give their alligence to the PACs and HEAVY CONTRIBUTORS! Knowing a little about psychology, very few if any give big donations to a politician and then not expect a favor at some point in return. We deserve HONEST people with INTEGRITY for a change as our leaders and not a gaggle of politicians who every day have to wake up and wonder which way they must vote to pay back some special interest which is deep in their pockets.

Kerry IS the "joke"...Such an elitist idiot...Worst possible candidate...

Ahh. My good friend Trent Steel.

To say nancy is a woman is insult to Woman

And Max.. Its MAX POWERS!!!!!!

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Isn't the memory of his last campaign for Prez seared- seared!- in his brain?! Come '08, how many Dems will say they were for Kerry, before they were against him?!

Send in the clowns, Jawn.

(PS- I've never seen him @ The Sevens; he mingles w/ the hoi polloi?!)

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The sides are pretty well lined up for/against many of the potential candidates for 08. A couple of my thoughts go to the supporters of Gore, in that he has stated he would not run and I, for one, will take his word on that. My thought about Obama is that he will not run in 08. Call these a feeling, hunch, or whatever, but when all is said and done Hillary will be the nominne and the elected POTUS in 08.

What is going on here today?

I know this is related more directly to yesterday's entry, but is there any video out there of Gore speaking at a recent event? I would like to see if he sounds any better than what he did in 2000 and then decide if he might be appealing for 2008.

Kerry would be an awful choice. As stated, if he couldn't beat Bush in the '04 atmosphere, there isn't a chance he could win in '08, especially against McCain. Gore would be better even without seeing any recent video. I am a Richardson supporter but I could easily be swayed into a Gore campaign, the more I think about it. Gore could beat McCain, especially if we see what we are told we will see in the Presidential speech tomorrow night, that being an increase in troops in Iraq. I can't believe Bush is doing the one thing that the ISG and the public are both against. What does that man listen to?

Three points: 1 factual, 2 opinions...

(1) Actually Maximus Excurio, you are completely wrong. Say what you will about Kerry, but he is a genuine war hero. He has released his records. What you are saying is just plain false. Please try again.

(2) Also, I am very skeptical of the belief expressed in these posts that Kerry should have won in 2004. That is revisionist history. In 2004 millions who voted for Bush believed were convinced that Saddam Hussein caused 9/11.

(3) If nobody wanted Kerry, then why did he basically steamroll through the primaries in a much more emphatic fashion than, say, Bill Clinton in 1992? The "nobody wanted Kerry" version is nothing but an expression of anger that he lost and several of the things that Kerry himself cautioned about during the campaign have come to pass.

Sen. Kerry should definitely run for President again. He came excrutiatingly close in an election during a time of war. If bin Laden did not release his tape a few days before the election, I have no doubt Kerry would be in the White House.

Sen. Kerry raised more money for other democratic candidates during the 06 elections than anyone else did.

I agree that Sen. Kerry is an experienced alternative to what seems to be a very light field. He should jump into the process, pit his ideas against the others and let the party decide who should get the nomination.

Shame on you Damian! To insinuate that Nancy Pelosi is a transsexual, is an insult to transsexuals!

Maxpower is a "Simpsons" reference, and it is max power- not maxpowers. What an idiot. And who was talking to you? Who are you trying to hang out with? Go away genius.