Clinton Courts S.C.'s Black Voters
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Hundreds waited in line outside Allen University's Adams Gymnatorium here for the chance to hear Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton speak in her first visit to South Carolina as a presidential candidate.

Sen. Clinton reacts to the crowds as she arrives Monday for a town hall event at Allen University in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo)
After a marching band and gospel choir warmed up the crowd, Clinton appeared to raucous applause. She was introduced by state Sen. Darrell Jackson, whose recent announcement that he is support Clinton in the state's Democratic primary, has created some controversy.
Clinton delivered her standard stump speech with a heavy emphasis on domestic priorities from health care to energy to college tuition. But she also framed the discussion in historic terms. "I believe this presidential campaign is about breaking barriers," Clinton said. "This is the campaign and I am the candidate."
Clinton reiterated her opposition to President Bush's plans to send more U.S. troops to Iraq and noted that she has supported a phased troop withdrawal from Iraq for the last two years -- a recent point of contention between she and Sen. Barack Obama. (Speaking of Obama, he has won the endorsement of former South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian.)
Clinton also sought to draw a contrast with some of her Democratic rivals on the issue of terrorism. "Some people may be running who may tell you that we don't face a real threat from terrorism," she said. "I am not one of those."
This historically black university -- founded in 1870 by the African Methodist Episcopal Church -- was a fitting backdrop for Clinton's visit, which focused heavily on courting the African American voters considered crucial winning the Palmetto State's primary next year.
Polling has repeatedly shown Clinton running well ahead of her rivals, including Obama. Obama spent Saturday night in Columbia and was greeted by large crowds pining for a chance to catch a glimpse of America's newest political rock star.
Much of Clinton's appeal among black voters is attributed to her husband's popularity. Even the mention of President Bill Clinton brought a roar from the crowd, and Sen. Clinton repeatedly referenced her husband's administration during her comments. Asked why she was best qualified to handle the situation in Iraq, Clinton said: "Obviously, during the eight years of Bill's presidency, I had a front row seat on history to see the difficult decision any commander in chief has to make. I learned both what works and what doesn't work."
From Columbia Clinton will head to Florence for an event with Florence Mayor Frank Willis and then to Charleston for a gala honoring Rep. Jim Clyburn -- the state's most influential black politician.
By Chris Cillizza |
February 19, 2007; 11:45 AM ET
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Posted by: | February 20, 2007 3:41 PM
anti-Hillary:
wow, given how much the death of 19 soldiers upsets you, you must be positively livid with President Bush, who has sent over 3000 soldiers to their deaths in Iraq!
Posted by: RickD | February 20, 2007 11:43 AM
Mr. Cillizza,
You say:
'Clinton also sought to draw a contrast with some of her Democratic rivals on the issue of terrorism. "Some people may be running who may tell you that we don't face a real threat from terrorism," she said. "I am not one of those."'
I have looked at the videotape of this portion of her discussion and at no point is there any mention of her "Democratic rivals". While I think the "Some people may be running" comment is bizarre, given that I don't know of any candidate in either party who thinks terrorism isn't a problem, I don't see why you felt it necessary to throw in the interpretation that she was "draw a constrast with some of her Democratic rivals", given that
a) no mention of her Democratic rivals is made by her or the person posing the question
and
b) none of her Democratic rivals has the position that she is setting up as a straw man.
Why did Senator Clinton include this phrase? I don't know. But I don't think it's your job to interpret it to mean that she is attacking rivals from her own party as opposed to, say, Republicans or third-party candidates who may not take terrorism seriously.
Posted by: RickD | February 20, 2007 11:20 AM
I can't believe that Clinton is suggesting that Democrats won't fight terrorists. She is validating Rush Limbaugh and the discredited White House frames. Why would she do that when the Republicans are on the ropes?
If we elect Clinton then we might as well turn Congress back over to the Republicans. The Clintons are just too selfish to lead the team.
That's why she voted for the war and now she is doing Bush's bidding maligning fellow Democrats.
Posted by: Yockel | February 19, 2007 10:27 PM
I feel that the Republicans want Hillary to get the Democratic nomination. They know she will get the republican base out in droves. That must be why you are promoting her so much. Are you a republican CC??? If the Democrats want to win they better look for another candidate.
Posted by: Rebecca Illich | February 19, 2007 7:10 PM
Judge Crater - you should have a blog - you have much more insight than Cillizzia ever will.
Hillary is the only hope the GOP has to excite their base over their self described "lemon" candidates.
This story is interesting using the "some say" quote - isn't that against all journalistic standards?
Also, isn't the host mentioned in THIS story the guy who was bought off by team hillary?
Posted by: Hillary Mobilizes the GOP | February 19, 2007 4:22 PM
Chris,
As I told you a month ago, if you keep on the Hillary bandwagon, your own readers are going to think you're ridiculous. I have been reading this blog from day one, but no more. I've lost patience with your constant coverage of Hillary. Polls mean very little at this stage.
Your entire blog is a Hillary blog...why don't you just quit and go work for her...I don't mean to cry sour grapes, but I think on the contrary, this is an instance where I am calling a spade, a spade.
Posted by: Steve | February 19, 2007 3:59 PM
Chris,
As I told you a month ago, if you keep on the Hillary bandwagon, your own readers are going to think you're ridiculous. I have been reading this blog from day one, but no more. I've lost patience with your constant coverage of Hillary in spite of the fact that Barack draws bigger crowds at every event he attends. Polls mean nothing at this stage.
Your entire blog is a Hillary blog...why don't you just quit and go work for her...you're done in my book.
Posted by: Steve | February 19, 2007 3:38 PM
I was at an event in Florida where Dick Morris said Hillary Clinton is going to try to sabotage Obama, TAKE HIM OUT. So with her money paying off black politicans in S Carolina like Darrell Jackson, one way to defeat Obama is to buy support. For $10,000 a month to Jackson's company, she is buying his influence with the African-American voters in the state. It is battle already and I wonder what nasty stuff Hillary and her cronyies will do to undermine Obama.
Dick Morris is also preparing a documentary to expose Hillary as the liar which she is and the nasty/corrupt behavior. At the event, Dick said the Whitewater land deal was Hillary's and not Bill's. Wow, what a statement. Now if Dick only could expose the Tyson Foods corruption, and the payoff's by felons toward Hillary's brothers for buy those pardons from Bill Clinton.
The long long corrupt history of Hillary Clinton is reported by newspapers, books, and testimony by witnesses. If the Democrats want a crook in the White House, just go with Hillary.
Posted by: Dick Morris | February 19, 2007 3:34 PM
fh, i'm not sure he is unable to connect, although you may be right. my point was that the skeptical brotha seems to want obama to be an inspiring preacher with quasi-spiritual rhetoric / talking points, even though he has to know that 1 - not all blacks live in the south and have grown up in that culture, and more importantly, 2 - that were he to follow the brotha's advice, he would be that much easier for the right to dismiss as a "niche" candidate. i support obama, and think he has a real shot precisely because his appeal is so broad. it seems to me that to follow brotha's advice would be to narrow it to the point where he could not win. having said that, didn't obama just get an endorsement today from a former s.c. elected official? (altho i don't remember who, and don't know if he is black or white.)
Posted by: meuphys | February 19, 2007 3:30 PM
Obama drew over 5000 in SC also he was introduced by U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., the third-highest ranking member of the U.S. House. quoted from The State:
Clyburn recently said he would not endorse a candidate in the primary, despite it being perhaps the most sought-after endorsement in the state. But Saturday, he seemed to come awfully close to endorsing Obama.
Obama, Clyburn said, "is giving life to Rosa Parks. Obama is able to run today because Rosa Parks sat down. He is able to run today to give hope and dreams to all of us."
Clyburn, who is also black, said he had "no idea whether or not a black person can get elected president of the United States. I have no idea if a woman can get elected or a Midwesterner can get elected. But I know this: No one gets elected who does not run, and so I come here today to say, 'Run Barack, run! Run Barack, run!"
Posted by: GR | February 19, 2007 3:20 PM
'UNITED STATES TROOP DEPLOYMENTS IN BOSNIA (House of Representatives - December 13, 1995)
Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas:
Mr. Speaker, this is not about peace and war; it is about war. That is what is going on over there, and they are not going to stop fighting just because we go in there.
I wholeheartedly support withholding funds from President Clinton's Bosnia mission. Although it is a drastic step and ties the President's hands, I do not feel like we have any other choice. The President has tied our hands, gone against the wishes of the American people, and this is the last best way I know how to show my respect for our American servicemen and women. They are helpless, following orders. But we, we
are in a position to stop this terrible mistake before it happens.'
Posted by: hypocrites.... | February 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To the nameless poster who continuously grabs unrelated threads...do you have an original thought, or are you going to continue to wow us with your web-browsing skills?
meuphys | February 19, 2007 01:01 PM
Really, a top-notch post. I agree that it seems we want more of the same, when what is needed are new ideas and personalities to add depth to the discussion. However, the previous poster brings up valid concerns about Obama's inability to connect with African American voters in the South. It's difficult to see how the Senator from Illinois can capture the Dem. nomination without making that connection.
Posted by: FH | February 19, 2007 3:05 PM
'Tony Blankley let the cat out of the bag, however, when he said that the US will be in Iraq for 20 years. When challenged about the difference between American combat troops on the ground an an American "presence" he (angrily)said this:
The fact is that when the oil is challenged in the Saudi oil fields and the Straights of Hormuz are closed, we'll be fighting even by your definition.'
Right. They aren't even pretending anymore.
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 2:48 PM
>>>In short, we came to hear a word from the Lord
What has the Lord done for anyone lately?
That is, other than appear on a grilled cheese sandwich?
Posted by: F&B | February 19, 2007 2:46 PM
'It tuns out Mr. Alishtari, the GOP campaign contributor indicted for sending funds for terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, had a fairly lively life online. TPM Reader TDP points to what purports to be Alishtari's blog. And in a rather rambling post there's a reference to an alleged meeting with VP Dick Cheney. "When I went to DC in the Fall of 2003 and met with VP Cheney, I was first in a room full of advisors where I asked how to resolve this and they advised me to talk to counsels which led to this solution."
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 2:35 PM
Check out this screen grab of a post that was put up yesterday on wingnut Charles Johnson's popular and well-trafficked Little Green Footballs blog:
Yeah, so the title of the post really was
Definition of a Target-Rich Environment
...those targets, of course, being Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Syrian President Bashar Assad, and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Johnson, incidentally, has been feted by the mainstream media. He was recently named number 20 on Forbes's "Web celeb" list. Perhaps more such posts about targeting foreign leaders will move him up into the top ten and get him the sort of regular network booking Ann Coulter enjoys.
In fact, maybe it's time for Howard Kurtz to do a long profile of Johnson, just as he did of Michelle Malkin the other day, reserving the stuff about foreign leaders for the 18th paragraph. Oh, wait -- the Washington Post already profiled Johnson! My bad.'
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/02/popular_wingnut.php
Posted by: Why does the WaPo LOVE rightwing nuts? | February 19, 2007 2:32 PM
'What does this have to do with the clash between bloggers and the mainstream media/political establishment? Having my words taken out of context and used to discredit me showed me how the soundbite culture contributes to anti-democratic elitism and shutting the rabble out of the political system. In the mainstream media right now, politics is a long, drawn-out game of "gotcha", and the result is that everyone who wants to be in politics is scared to ever say anything interesting or thoughtful for fear that it will be taken out of context and used relentlessly to discredit them. The result is that ordinary people are routinely turned off to politics, to the point where getting more than half of registered voters to vote in any one election is considered some sort of amazing victory.
This is where blogs step in, at least on the left. Blogging is a real counterpoint to the thoughtless, elitist, soundbite-driven mainstream media, where we're supposed to absorb an endless stream of soundbites and photo ops and our participation is limited mostly to a vote every couple of years. Blogs are bringing back the 19th century debate culture, where people would attend real debates and political rallies and listen to speeches for hours at a time. The irony about the vulgar people is that the vulgar people crave analysis, debate and participation, because these things validate our intelligence and our right to be citizens. The blogs are still appealing only to a small segment of society right now, but they're still relatively new and have the potential to reach a much larger audience over time.
Blogs also provide space for biting political satire. '
Posted by: why the MSM attacked amanda marcotte | February 19, 2007 2:25 PM
Your King George has some interesting fantasies...
"A few months ago a book called Ariel Sharon: An Intimate Portrait came out. It's by the late Uri Dan, who was Sharon's longtime confidant/bootlicker. It sounds like it's worth skimming, at least for these two parts:
From a new review in Ha'aretz:
Speaking of George Bush, with whom Sharon developed a very close relationship, Uri Dan recalls that Sharon's delicacy made him reluctant to repeat what the president had told him when they discussed Osama bin Laden. Finally he relented. And here is what the leader of the Western world, valiant warrior in the battle of cultures, promised to do to bin Laden if he caught him: "I will screw him in the a**!"
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 2:17 PM
'Lack of tannks, lack of weapons for the US to defend itself, and 19 dead US soldiers.''
Hey, moron, how about lack of armor and armored vehicles and over 3000 dead? That's YOUR president, King George...
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 2:10 PM
Yes, Hillary's gaining black support in SC. But some of her methods for doing so seem painfully nefarious;
http://political-buzz.com/?p=50
Posted by: cmfl | February 19, 2007 2:09 PM
pi, interesting about richardson. the difference between him and hillary, seems to me, is that he's not getting the media attention. but there's a lot there - credentials, experience at both the federal and state level, the whole darfur thing (as i mentioned earlier). also, just as obama would be the first black president and hillary the first woman, richardson if elected would represent a new chapter for hispanics. i too would like to see him have more of an opportunity to put forth some of his ideas for discussion.
Posted by: meuphys | February 19, 2007 2:07 PM
'That has been mentioned by Bin Laden and his thugs as a lesson that if you attack the US long enough and hard enough,'
Utter BS and lies, told by a republican wh*re.
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 2:06 PM
hi drndl - you mistake my tone in talking about jackson et al. i have no problem with jesse OR with sharpton, or ellison, or any other black political name. i agree that they have brought an important perspective to national politics, and serve an important role as advocates for issues and positions too often ignored / belittled / underfunded by those in power. and i respect your experience with the political environment down south, which i do not share. my point was just that the tone that skeptical brotha wants obama to take is one which would is so specifically "black" as to bewilder (at best) a non-black audience. (check his website, link on his post.) you are right that voters are trying to determine exactly "who" the candidates are and what they bring to the table, and my problem with the brotha's post was that he seems to have decided who obama should be, rather than leaving it to obama to define himself.... then he finds fault with him for not being as inspiring a speaker as mlk. that's a really high bar to ask anyone to clear, but it seems that because he is black, the brotha needs obama to compete with someone whose speeches are now recorded in history textbooks. as often noted, obama is not a product of the african-american culture of the south, and so blacks somehow doubt his legitimacy as an african-american. i would rather we get past the labels and see him as a good or bad candidate based on his ideas.
Posted by: meuphys | February 19, 2007 1:57 PM
Hey, if you want to expose what Hillary learned at the foot of Big Boy Bill, why not ask her about the Somolia withdrawal of October 1993? Afterall, after dead US soldiers were dragged through the streets, Hillary saw her husband withdraw our US forces instead of fighting. That has been mentioned by Bin Laden and his thugs as a lesson that if you attack the US long enough and hard enough, they will eventually leave with their tails between their legs.
Yes, and Clinton blamed his Sec of Defense, and fired him after Somolia as well. John Harris wrote a book, The Survivor, and it exposes the FIASCO of Bill Clinton and his Sec of Defense in Somolia. Lack of tannks, lack of weapons for the US to defend itself, and 19 dead US soldiers.
Yes, Hillary Clinton, tell me what lesson you learned at the feet of King Billy.
Posted by: anti-Hillary | February 19, 2007 1:57 PM
So why couldn't CC go to both events if you did, SC Dem? What's the story here?
'SPARTANBURG, S.C. - Republican presidential candidate John McCain (news, bio, voting record), looking to improve his standing with the party's conservative voters, said Sunday the court decision that legalized abortion should be overturned.
"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned," the Arizona senator told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.'
Ugg. what a tied old WH*RE. I can't imagine I once thought I could vote for him...
Posted by: lark | February 19, 2007 1:53 PM
I'm done reading this blog. all it talks about is hillary clinton.
Posted by: FEDUP | February 19, 2007 1:49 PM
I attended both events--Clinton and Obama--and both candidates did well and had huge crowds.
Clinton got her crowd more excited than Obama did.
But Chris, you surely didn't mean to say "between she and Obama."
Posted by: SC Dem | February 19, 2007 1:48 PM
'She always seems to be photographed making a weird face.'
..those are editorial decisions, blarg. The editors make a statement by which pictures they choose. I've seen quite good photos of her, but the Post's photo editors choose to use the weird ones. It's quite subliminal, but very effective.
Ever notice how before the election, ALL the photos you saw of Nancy Pelosi were bug-eyed and twisted and weird looking? But since she became Speaker, they are very different, and she looks rather distinguished.
Funny, huh?
Posted by: drindl | February 19, 2007 1:48 PM
I was about to post a message about how I was going to boycott this blog since it, like all the other major media outlets, only covers Hillary and Obama. Then I read the Chris Bowers post about Bill Richardson moving up in the polls...which was exactly what I want to see on this blog. Maybe Chris Bowers can take over for Cillizza.
Posted by: Josh | February 19, 2007 1:45 PM
Couple days ago, the Post ran a hit piece by Victoria Toensing, a longtime republican operative, where she attacked patrick Fitzgerald, the prosecutor at the Scooter Libby trial... without disclosing any of her many conflicts and interest and outright lies she has told. Why is the Post such a republican wh**re?
'So, who is Victoria Toensing? She's a former Barry Goldwater staffer and Reagan Justice Department 'antiterrorism' official who filed an amicus brief in favor of Judith Miller (something she fails to mention in her article).
Toensing also failed to disclose her personal friendship with Robert Novak when she wrote an editorial for the Post on the same subject two years ago, and makes the same omission today. In fact, today's piece is virtually the same editorial as the one she wrote in January 2005, with the same misleading statements.
Why is the Post giving her this platform again? You'll have to ask them.'
Posted by: lark | February 19, 2007 1:39 PM
For those of you tired of the MSM trying to select our candidates for us- this MyDD post is refreshing...
Richardson Slowly Moving Up?
by Chris Bowers, Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 06:06:00 PM EST
Over the past two weeks, I have a number of indications that Bill Richardson might be slowly migrating out of the so-called "second tier." First, the long-term trends on the Dailykos straw poll show Richardson, slowly, but consistently, rising since last May. He has risen in four consecutive straw polls, a feat no other candidate has been able to match. In the most recent straw poll he actually rose from 5% to 7%, despite "other" and "no clue" being introduced as options (he actually had 6.79%, but the poll always rounds down). When rounding is taken into account, every other candidate either stayed the same from the January poll, or dropped in overall percentage. Additionally, and for whatever it might be worth, he wins every single Pajamas Media poll for Democratic candidates. He also is in a clear second place among 2008 candidates when it comes to Act Blue fundraising, so far pulling in $285K. While these are not yet numbers to cause your eyes to boggle, Richardson appears to be steadily gaining a decent netroots following.
Signs of slow Richardson growth are also coming from more traditional areas. National Journal, the ultimate insider magazine, took a poll of insiders where Richardson was the clear choice as the "long-shot" candidate most likely to emerge as a serious contender. Noting that his DNC winter meeting speech was "well-received," Hotline on Call also had him moving into fourth place in their latest 2008 rankings, behind only Clinton, Obama and Edwards. In the latest Gallup national trial heat, Richardson also scored 4%, while every other "second tier" candidate pulled in either 1% or 0%. Much like the Dailykos straw poll, Richardson has risen slowly, but consistently, over their last four surveys.
While this could all merely be a coincidence, the slow Richardson rise has the makings of a real trend. It is happening among insiders and outsiders, among the establishment and the netroots, in real polls and straw polls / online rankings. In a way, it all makes sense, since Richardson has numerous potential "niches" he can fill in order to slowly move his candidacy into the top tier. He is the only westerner in the race. He is one of only two governors in the race. He is the only Latino in the race. He has the longest resume in the race. He also seems to be well liked by libertarians, as I have suggested in the past and as the Pajamas media poll also suggests (consider that Ron Paul is the clear Republican winner in those polls, and you get a sense of the libertarian audience doing the voting). All of these potential niches could allow his campaign to slowly move upward. If they eventually result in him reaching double-digits, quite a bit of money and media attention will follow the resulting sense of viability.
As a final note, before it was stuffed into oblivion today, it should be pointed out that Richardson was only about 2% behind Wesley Clark in the MyDD straw poll. In fact, since that poll was IRV style, as the rounds went on, Richardson actually edged Clark for third place overall. Further, when I conducted a deeper analysis of a MyDD straw poll last year, among current candidates Richardson actually had the fewest last place votes. He might not be the top choice of too many people right now, but no one seems to dislike him. With a very long primary season ahead of us, and the possibility of burn-out taking place when it comes to the virtually over-exposed "top-tier," having no one dislike you could be an important way to start building support. Who knows--in a few months, Richardson could very well emerge as a fresh faced, new top tier contender. I am not saying it will definitely happen, but the possibility certainly seems to be there.
Posted by: pi | February 19, 2007 1:34 PM
For those of you tired of the MSM trying to select our candidates for us- this MyDD post is refreshing...
Richardson Slowly Moving Up?
by Chris Bowers, Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 06:06:00 PM EST
Over the past two weeks, I have a number of indications that Bill Richardson might be slowly migrating out of the so-called "second tier." First, the long-term trends on the Dailykos straw poll show Richardson, slowly, but consistently, rising since last May. He has risen in four consecutive straw polls, a feat no other candidate has been able to match. In the most recent straw poll he actually rose from 5% to 7%, despite "other" and "no clue" being introduced as options (he actually had 6.79%, but the poll always rounds down). When rounding is taken into account, every other candidate either stayed the same from the January poll, or dropped in overall percentage. Additionally, and for whatever it might be worth, he wins every single Pajamas Media poll for Democratic candidates. He also is in a clear second place among 2008 candidates when it comes to Act Blue fundraising, so far pulling in $285K. While these are not yet numbers to cause your eyes to boggle, Richardson appears to be steadily gaining a decent netroots following.
Signs of slow Richardson growth are also coming from more traditional areas. National Journal, the ultimate insider magazine, took a poll of insiders where Richardson was the clear choice as the "long-shot" candidate most likely to emerge as a serious contender. Noting that his DNC winter meeting speech was "well-received," Hotline on Call also had him moving into fourth place in their latest 2008 rankings, behind only Clinton, Obama and Edwards. In the latest Gallup national trial heat, Richardson also scored 4%, while every other "second tier" candidate pulled in either 1% or 0%. Much like the Dailykos straw poll, Richardson has risen slowly, but consistently, over their last four surveys.
While this could all merely be a coincidence, the slow Richardson rise has the makings of a real trend. It is happening among insiders and outsiders, among the establishment and the netroots, in real polls and straw polls / online rankings. In a way, it all makes sense, since Richardson has numerous potential "niches" he can fill in order to slowly move his candidacy into the top tier. He is the only westerner in the race. He is one of only two governors in the race. He is the only Latino in the race. He has the longest resume in the race. He also seems to be well liked by libertarians, as I have suggested in the past and as the Pajamas media poll also suggests (consider that Ron Paul is the clear Republican winner in those polls, and you get a sense of the libertarian audience doing the voting). All of these potential niches could allow his campaign to slowly move upward. If they eventually result in him reaching double-digits, quite a bit of money and media attention will follow the resulting sense of viability.
As a final note, before it was stuffed into oblivion today, it should be pointed out that Richardson was only about 2% behind Wesley Clark in the MyDD straw poll. In fact, since that poll was IRV style, as the rounds went on, Richardson actually edged Clark for third place overall. Further, when I conducted a deeper analysis of a MyDD straw poll last year, among current candidates Richardson actually had the fewest last place votes. He might not be the top choice of too many people right now, but no one seems to dislike him. With a very long primary season ahead of us, and the possibility of burn-out taking place when it comes to the virtually over-exposed "top-tier," having no one dislike you could be an important way to start building support. Who knows--in a few months, Richardson could very well emerge as a fresh faced, new top tier contender. I am not saying it will definitely happen, but the possibility certainly seems to be there.
Posted by: pi | February 19, 2007 1:33 PM
'CC is promoting HRC because he feels that she would do the best job at bringing out the GOP 'base.' It isn't pro-HRC, it's anti-D. '
right on, judge...
CC hasn't said a single word as far as i can tell about Bill Richardson, whom I would like to hear about it... and only negatives about Edwards...
Let's have some reporting about how McCain is flopping on the campaign trail and rudy is backpedaling about everything he ever did/said...
Posted by: drindl | February 19, 2007 1:32 PM
meuphys, my friend, i so often agree with you, but to be fair, skeptical brotha doesn't mention al sharpton... and jackson has actually done some good for the black community.
i grew up in the baptist community, and therefore understand the phraseology and how it establishes an authenticity and kinship -- and I think that's what the writer is talking about. Let us know who you really are. And i think that's the problem with ALL the candiates in both parties. Who are they, really?
Modern campaigning, bnecause of TV, cellphones, UTube, is fraught with opportunities to be brought down and crushed by a single, perhaps completely unrepresentative, moment. Look at macaca, the 'Scream', John Kerry's joke--all these things taken out of context [on the other hand, 'macaca' seems quite in character] and broadcast, or edited and twisted -- I have several times caught Post writers deliberately misquoting... we are all so anxious to bring them down, to pounce on them, to tear them apart.
Politics has become a roman circus, and candidates have to be careful of every move, every word, because they knnow their enemies are listening and waiting...we can hardly blame them if they are inauthentic -- we did this to them.
Posted by: drindl | February 19, 2007 1:25 PM
CC - I agree, enough Hillary already. She is already fading to beige from overexposure! Or, is that the plan as the Judge so astutely points out.
Posted by: Truth Hunter | February 19, 2007 1:24 PM
CC is promoting HRC because he feels that she would do the best job at bringing out the GOP 'base.' It isn't pro-HRC, it's anti-D. With the bunch of third-stringers the GOP is bringing to the plate in 2008 they'll need all the help they can get motivating their people to come to the polls.
Posted by: Judge C. Crater | February 19, 2007 1:16 PM
also, if association with bill clinton is such a good thing, why not more press for bill richardson? unlike hillary, he was actually PART OF the clinton administration... and while hillary initially supported the action in iraq - her saying that she did not expect bush to use the authority given him by congress unwisely is unforgiveably naive in someone who expects us to trust her to run the country - she and the rest of the congress have been relatively inactive on a legitimate humanitarian situation in darfur. richardson, on the other hand, went to sudan and tried to help, and he's not even in the federal government at the moment. let's talk some more about him, chris, and lay off hillary for at least a month or so.
Posted by: meuphys | February 19, 2007 1:09 PM
The Fix: All Hillary, All the Time!
She's got to me the least photogenic person I've ever seen. She always seems to be photographed making a weird face.
Posted by: Blarg | February 19, 2007 1:01 PM
In what is good news for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential aspirations, most men and women would vote for a female candidate for president, a recent poll finds.
http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/most-would-vote-for-woman-president.html
Posted by: On The Hill | February 19, 2007 1:01 PM
the skeptical brotha seems disappointed that obama is not jesse jackson. i would ask him to remember that obama, if he is to be successful, needs everyone's votes, including those of us who think that issues such as bio- and other alternative fuels and healthcare are priority issues in today's america. he says "they came to hear a word from the lord," and i think that's the problem. we are not electing a deity, we are electing a political leader who must speak to and for everyone, regardless of racial, social, or economic background. the "brotha" expresses a wish to see the quote unquote real barack, meaning the candidate he wishes to see, who would remind him of jesse or sharpton - but i would have two questions for him. first, does he want a speaker who can evoke strong sentiment in rhyming alliterative phraseology? or would he be content with a decent, intelligent man whose ideas could take all of us - black, white, hispanic, asian - in a positive direction after eight years of bush? and second, does he believe it would be better to lose with a preacher then to win with a policy wonk? how exactly would that improve the lives of african-americans?
on another note, this is yet another fawn-on-hillary discussion from her #1 fan at the post. chris does not mention other candidates except to discuss their weaknesses, while trumpeting success after supposed success by the former first lady. (interesting that she is shameless about using her ties to and experience with bill as a reason to vote for her. what part of "america is not a hereditary monarchy" does she not understand? although to be fair, it would be easy to get that impression from the George Bush Show, playing daily and nightly to an increasingly skeptical audience, but - unfortunately - in syndication for almost 2 more years.)
Posted by: meuphys | February 19, 2007 1:01 PM
In what is good news for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential aspirations, most men and women would vote for a female candidate for president, a recent poll finds.
http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/most-would-vote-for-woman-president.html
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 1:00 PM
In what is good news for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential aspirations, most men and women would vote for a female candidate for president, a recent poll finds.
http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/most-would-vote-for-woman-president.html
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 12:58 PM
In what is good news for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential aspirations, most men and women would vote for a female candidate for president, a recent poll finds.
http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/most-would-vote-for-woman-president.html
Posted by: | February 19, 2007 12:52 PM
inneresting post, jopo... hey CC maybe you ought to talk to some real human beings in the audience ... get some feel for what THEY say, what their reaction to the candidate is -- you're coverage is too shallow, just repeating the candidates words... the point is, how are they received? are their words resonating with the audience? that's what i want to know...
Posted by: drindl | February 19, 2007 12:11 PM
Sigh....another installment in the "Let Us Promote the Hell Out of Hillary" campaign. Ugh!!!!
Posted by: al_jal | February 19, 2007 12:06 PM
Chris: We're sorry that the editors wouldn't give you the Holiday off. Our prayers are with you, that they will release you from Hillary Hell soon!
Hang in there, the penance can't last forever. BTW - What did you do to have the editors do this to you?
Posted by: Easter | February 19, 2007 12:06 PM
"Some people may be running who may tell you that we don't face a real threat from terrorism," she said. "I am not one of those."
--and who might that be? totally silly... no one else has said anything like that. everyone knows there are terrorists .. just WHO they are is the question...
hey I'm a dem, CC, but ENOUGH already of Hillary. Overkill, overkill. can't you follow someone else for a while ... someone, anyone...
Posted by: drindl | February 19, 2007 12:00 PM
We arrived in Orangeburg at 9:38 a.m. and upon arrival, noticing the fashion of true african-american gatherings, putting on their "Sundays Best" marching tempestly, teetering, and some with nervous anticipation that they came to hear what skeptical brotha and I concluded "A Word from the Lord!" The second coming of Martin's dream or watching history, yearning for a leader, as if moses came to set his people free.
I am a community leader in some sense, and well respected for the works I do at church, volunteering, mentoring and the work for Catholic Diocese of Raleigh.
I was there at Hampton when Judge Higginbotham rant about being in succession to the courts in 95. I was privy to see and listen so many times to Jesse's sermons and was quite awed at Bellefonte speech at Duke last year. I was even privy to Maya's "pulse of morning" at Clinton's inauguration. I have seen and heard so many politicians, poets and decedents of past leaders. So the curiosity that exists in this nation for Obama was something I had to see for myself. Not necessarily waiting for Moses himself, but in a sense to see the sincerity, passion, and characteristics of leaders of our times.
However, I was disappointed. Maybe I was expecting too much, or maybe I am yearning for a leader who speaks about this great democracy, the nation treasures within us. In the words of my friend "skeptical brotha" they should have left Barry home and brought the real Barak... He was in Orangeburg, South Carolina, he was at home for God sakes... a room packed with African-Americans who lives, works and struggle in a state that succeeded from the union and where the main blvd is named "John C Calhoun". In a sense...they came to hear a word from the lord...and they got a dissertation on Bio-Fuel, the importance of healthcare with a joke about his daughters playing a game boy while traveling on the campaign. Either he doesn't understand the context of the south as it related to African-American or his campaign staff is advising him to speak to the cameras not understanding that you must campaign for one vote at a time. They came for a word from the lord.... And we left delusioned.
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Posted by: JoPo | February 19, 2007 11:58 AM
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anti-Hillary: "Hey, if you want to expose what Hillary learned at the foot of Big Boy Bill, why not ask her about the Somolia withdrawal of October 1993? Afterall, after dead US soldiers were dragged through the streets"
How come all of you Clinton bashers always ingnore the fact that it was George H. W. Bush who got us into Somalia without an exit strategy, and then stuck Clinton with the mess he and James A. Baker, III created.
The apple doesn't fall far from the Bush.