The Line: 46 Days to Ky.'s Gubernatorial Primary!
Even The Fix finds it hard to believe that we're just about 6 weeks away from the first gubernatorial primary of the 2007-2008 election cycle. And that first one is going to be a doozy.
Kentucky Gov. Ernie Fletcher, the first Republican governor in the state since the early 1970s, is fighting for his political life against former Rep. Anne Northup in the May 22 GOP primary. On the Democratic side, seemingly every elected official in the state is running, with two(!) former lieutenant governors currently leading the pack. (That has to be some sort of historical first, right?)
Most Democrats believe Fletcher, who has battled a series of ethical scandals throughout his first term, is the easier candidate to face in the general election. Northup lost her reelection race in the 3rd district last November, but her base in the Louisville area could make it difficult for Democrats to build a statewide coalition.
While Kentucky heats up, the Bluegrass State is still nowhere near as hot as Louisiana, where Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) decided to take a pass on a campaign for a second term, seemingly opening the door for former Sen. John Breaux (D) to step in and save the day for the party. But Breaux faces residency questions that don't look likely to be resolved anytime soon, and polling shows Rep. Bobby Jindal (R) with a wide lead even if Breaux does qualify for the ballot.
As always, the No. 1 ranked race below is the most likely to result in a party switch. The comments section awaits your kudos and critiques.
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5. North Carolina (2008): Given North Carolina's Republican tendencies on the federal level and the fact that Gov. Mike Easley (D) is vacating the seat after eight years in office, it would seem that GOPers would be licking their chops at the opportunity to win this open seat. But most neutral observers believe the two strongest candidates are running for the Democratic nomination -- Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue and state Treasurer Richard Moore. Several Republicans -- wealthy businessman Bill Graham, former state Supreme Court Justice Bob Orr and state Sens. Fred Smith and Robert Pittenger -- are running, but none is particularly well-known or appears to be generating much excitement. Any open seat in a state the 2008 Republican presidential nominee will almost certainly carry by a double-digit margin belongs on The Line, but the Democratic nominee will begin the general-election campaign as the favorite. (Previous ranking: 4)
4. Indiana (2008): Democrats got their man last month when Indianapolis architect Jim Schellinger formally announced his gubernatorial candidacy. Schellinger is making all the right early moves, including signing on the executive director of the state party to head his fundraising operation. Schellinger appears to be the preferred candidate of the party establishment, since he is a carbon copy (pro-growth, pro-business) of Indianapolis Mayor Bart Peterson (D). Even so, Schellinger seems likely to face a primary challenge. State Sen. Richard Young is already in the race, and former Rep. Jill Long Thompson is considering a bid. Long Thompson's recent attacks on Gov. Mitch Daniels's (R) plan to lease the Indiana Toll Road seems to suggest she is laying the groundwork for a candidacy. Daniels's numbers have bounced back somewhat and should be helped by an increased Republican turnout in a presidential year, but he is in for a serious race. (Previous ranking: 5)
3. Missouri (2008): Republicans insist that Gov. Matt Blunt's (R) reelection numbers are slowly but surely creeping upward. In a March survey conducted for Blunt's campaign by Linda DiVall, the governor's job-approval number was at 53 percent approve/41 percent disapprove -- up from 46/44 in a January poll done for the campaign. "While these numbers are obviously not where they need to be on Election Day, the consistent improvement is a sign that Governor Blunt will be in a much better position once the campaign begins next years," DiVall wrote in the polling memo. State Attorney General Jay Nixon will be the Democratic nominee and may receive a bit of a bump if, as expected, Missouri returns to its longtime status as a battleground state in the presidential race. The two campaigns are already attacking each other almost daily. This race looks likely to be the most expensive and nasty race of the 2008 governors cycle. (Previous ranking: 3)
2. Kentucky (2007): The Fix debated long and hard about moving Kentucky into the No. 1 slot, but uncertainty over which candidates will win the two parties' nominations kept it at No. 2. Gov. Fletcher is putting up a surprisingly game fight -- seeking to cast his ethical problems as the work of bullies looking to distract him from doing the work of the people of Kentucky. Fletcher's first ad set the stage for this message and drew rave reviews from many neutral observers. Plus, businessman Billy Harper (R) has gained some traction and appears to be siphoning off some of the anti-Fletcher vote that would otherwise go to Northup. On the Democratic side, it's tough to distinguish between the cavalcade of candidates, but the top tier appears to be former Lt. Govs. Steve Beshear and Steve Henry, as well as and wealthy businessman and 2003 gubernatorial candidate Bruce Lunsford. State Treasurer Jonathan Miller is running a sound campaign but is on the outside looking in at the moment. Still, with such a crowded field it's tough to predict how the race will shake out between now and May 22. (Previous ranking: 2)
1. Louisiana (2007): Blanco is out. Breaux is in (sort of). Democrats are gleeful. Republicans are stalwart. Who has the most reason to celebrate? We probably won't know until September at the earliest. That's when qualifying opens in the governor's race and -- presumably -- when a legal challenge will be brought against Breaux questioning whether he qualifies as a citizen of the state. In the meantime, state Attorney General Charles Foti (D) is expected to make a decision next week on whether or not he believes Breaux is a citizen (Breaux changed his voter registration to Maryland after leaving the Senate in 2004). If Foti rules in Breaux's favor, Republicans will cast it as political gamesmanship and brace for a legal challenge in the fall. It may be much ado over nothing, however, as a Southern Media & Opinion Research poll conducted in mid-March showed Republican Bobby Jindal with a 56 percent to 26 percent edge over Breaux. [And this is neither here nor there, but in terms of political satire, this is one of the best we've heard in a while.] (Previous ranking: 1)
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Kennedy poll shows governor's race wide open
April 9, 2007
By John Hill
jhillbr@gannett.com
BATON ROUGE - A new poll taken a week ago shows the Louisiana governor's race is wide open, with three out of four voters saying they are open to any candidate.
Pollster Verne Kennedy of Pensacola, Florida, who is polling for Republican businessman John Georges of Metairie, said 74 percent of those polled said they had not made a definite and final decision, but were open to examining the candidates who qualify.
Kennedy polled 600 voters from Thursday, March 29 through Tuesday, April 3 for Georges, a wealthy businessman who has said he will run for governor, but has not yet officially announced.
Only 22 percent of those polled said they had made a final decision in the race.
Kennedy said that is the rock hard base support for GOP front runner Bobby Jindal, a Metairie congressman. Jindal was staging a rematch of the 2003 runoff when Democrat Kathleen Blanco beat him by a 52-48 percent margin.
The race has changed since Blanco announced last month that she would not be a candidate for re-election.
"As long as Kathleen was in this thing, it was a reliving of 2003. It's wide open now," Kennedy said.
Although he did not release all the poll numbers, Kennedy and Georges said Jindal led the trial heat with 39 percent.
"Blanco's getting out has Jindal dropping like a lead balloon," said Georges.
Georges, 46, said he is a conservative Republican, but as a businessman he can strongly appeal to independent voters. He operates the state's largest independent grocery wholesaler, an offshore oil service company and an amusement corporation. He is a former member of the state Board of Regents for Higher Education and is a philanthropist.
Posted by: Randal | April 9, 2007 4:55 PM
Key points on LA Gov Race:
Jindal was born a United States Citizen in Baton Rouge, LA. His parents were from India (not native American "indian").
Commercials linking Jindal to Bush will not be as effective in LA as they would elsewhere. Read the Cook Report or Pew Surveys, LA is the ONLY state in the country that is trending more Republican over the last several years.
Polls show Jindal strong (very strong, with almost no undecided voters) against every potential challenger. (I know b/c I wrote some of the polls that have gone into the field).
William's comments above may sway a few backward people in NorthLA (the same ones that voted for David Duke), but Louisiana and the South is tired of that stereotype and the more William and his friends under the hood spout this vile, the more voters will backlash and support Jindal as a sign of a progresive "new South".
Yeah, his name is Piyush (not Boudreax Breaux), but why should that matter?
Some Democrats may (all should) be offended by the racist methods Democrat John Breaux's supporters are using to undermine Jindal, but considering that Democrats in the 2003 race got Blanco elected through "darkie" ads that made Jindal appear darker than he is, should just remind people that Democrats in the South were the strongest supporters of segregation in the 1960's too.
Posted by: LA resident | April 9, 2007 2:03 PM
"Saturday and Sunday, this weekend, we only had 10 [ten] of our troops killed."
Don't tell Zouk, he's convinced you guys are 'winning' the war...
Posted by: Aussie view | April 9, 2007 11:54 AM
April 9 (Bloomberg) -- Six American soldiers were killed in attacks in Iraq, the military said, as Shiites gathered to mark the fourth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad amid calls for more attacks on U.S. forces.
Thousands of Shiites headed for the city of Najaf today for an anti-American rally to mark the fall of Saddam Hussein, responding to a call from the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr who urged Iraq's army to unite with his militias against the U.S. military, the New York Times reported today. The U.S. force build-up in Iraq has shown little sign of success, the Times reported in a separate article.
Posted by: | April 9, 2007 7:28 AM
Iraq again is showing "Improvement". Saturday and Sunday, this weekend, we only had 10 [ten] of our troops killed. I will check around the country for Mondays headlines and see if I can find anything that resembles what is actually going on there.
Posted by: lylepink | April 9, 2007 2:38 AM
I take myself extremely seriously, and all my point are good ones worth making at least twice.
I take myself extremely seriously, and all my point are good ones worth making at least twice.
I take myself extremely seriously, and all my point are good ones worth making at least twice.
I take myself extremely seriously, and all my point are good ones worth making at least twice.
Posted by: LookinMirrorMatt | April 8, 2007 11:58 PM
What about the governor's race in Washington State? With all the controversy and the narrow margin of victory, I would think that the Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire would be high in the GOP's sights for 1008?
Posted by: Conan The Librarian | April 8, 2007 11:53 PM
Why don't you people ever talk about the topic Chris writes about? If you are true political junkies, you should hear enough about federal politics to not want to talk about it non-stop, and maybe pay attention to the way elections are going.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 8:32 PM
Anonymous--"So while we should try to keep things respectful and interesting, the point of this blog as I see it is to engage in interesting political conversations and debates with others who share your interest."
You are absolutely right. It is not a news aggregator.
Posted by: roo | April 8, 2007 8:17 PM
OK, people.
LIGHTEN UP. We are not solving the world's problems here, we are not beginning the next great American novel, and we are not participating in governmental decision-making. So while we should try to keep things respectful and interesting, the point of this blog as I see it is to engage in interesting political conversations and debates with others who share your interest. Does it hurt you to have to scroll down a page or two? If you are uninterested in what I or anyone else has to say or to link to, DON'T LOOK AT IT. Instead, say what you have to say, and then wait to see if anyone has any response to it. If they don't, or if their response(s) are funny or crude or off the point, you haven't lost anything.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 6:01 PM
Just saw this:
Tarheel says "We are starting to see the beginning of the end for Al Qaeda in Iraq. The locals have found out you never make a pact with the devil. He never keeps his part of the bargain."
The problem with that analogy is that it equates us with the Iraqis and Al Qaeda with the devil. But if we are complaining of a civil war situation, do you really think it becomes more safe when Al Qaeda does not keep its part of the bargain? After all, no one ever defeats the devil for very long.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 5:56 PM
I have always thought the local media, print and electronic, would serve their area in the best interest of the folk there, only taking a back seat to money. These past several years have proven me wrong in that I have tried to find, a difference in the coverage over a number of years, how this Administration has gotten the most favorable coverage, when in fact it has been the worst in the history of this country, with the Hoover Administration running not even a close second. Somehow "The Fear Factor" I mention so often, is involved, and I cannot figure out the why or what it is.
Posted by: lylepink | April 8, 2007 5:33 PM
OK, people.
INCLUDE SOURCES IN YOUR QUOTES.
If you post content produced by someone else, you MUST attribute the quote. Leaving it out is annoying (not to mention illegal.)
Or you can just go to blogger.com, start your own journal there and then link to it so I do not have to read THE SAME NEWS I ALREADY GOT EARLIER.
Chris, if you need people, I am sure there are volunteers for weeding out the spam in the comments.
Posted by: roo | April 8, 2007 5:32 PM
It's a shame lyle, that the media has made a mockery of the whole notion of a free press -- becuase now it is a bought press.
And the idea of it being 'liberal' is so laughable it's hard to comprehend that anyone beleives that... although 30 years of rightwing propaganda certainly helped. But that sort of thing was of course done in a much shorter time in nazi germany, where goebbels made sure every german household had a radio, and that all they could hear was governemtn propaganda. karl rove [whose father designed extermination chambers during WWII--in germany] along, with many movement 'conservatives' learned a lot from what goebbels and goering accomplished.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 4:52 PM
Good stuff Drindl, I don't doubt that, and despite the catastrophic last six years (and I don't say that lightly, but America's standing across the world has taken an almighty hit since Clinton left office) I still have great faith in your country. I pray it's a dem that gets elected,and if not, then a responsible,sane republican in the Gerald Ford mode (i was struggling there, i guess Lincoln was a republican though ;-))
Posted by: Aussie view | April 8, 2007 2:56 PM
The WaPo did a hit job on Speaker Pelosi that defies all reason. We could expect no less from the WaTimes and the WaPost appear to be trying to see if they can out-do The Times in their dem hit jobs. Most, if not all, of the Sunday Talk Shows made sure the "liberal" WaPost was their featured story. wapo illitercy and jane: Each and every major newspaper and all the Cable news shows ran the FALSE story about the dems cutting off funds for the troops, when in FACT they have passed the bill in the House and GW has stated he would veto it, so in reality it is GW that will be cutting off funds for our troops. This is just another example of how this White House has control of the media.
Posted by: lylepink | April 8, 2007 2:16 PM
WaPo: "President Bush used his Easter weekend radio address to suggest that while Americans are "blessed" to have so many brave, volunteer military service members, congressional Democrats are jeopardizing their safety by refusing to sign his $100 billion war funding bill."
Obviously, Democrats aren't refusing to sign anything. Democrats passed a bill that will fund the troops. Bush is threatening to veto this bill, thus denying the troops money, because he's refusing to back off an open-ended, accountability-free committed to Iraq. So who's endangering whose safety? Too bad the WaPo has to twist and demean itself so far to make dems look bad.
Posted by: wapo illiteracy | April 8, 2007 12:21 PM
'BAGHDAD - The renegade cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged Iraqi forces to stop cooperating with the United States and told his guerrilla fighters to concentrate their attacks on American troops rather than Iraqis, according to a statement issued Sunday.'
hey zouk and tarheel and other gopies -- this is progress, right?
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 12:17 PM
'There are moments when it seems our collective press has retrieved a bit of sense and decency, when the right wing noise machine is flailing around without a script, and when coverage of news events seems to be almost fair and balanced.
And then there are weeks like this, when CNN and the WaPo decided to turn Nancy Pelosi into enemy #1, without any real prompting from the noise machine, for reasons which they couldn't actually articulate.'
There's one scandal after another at the WH! All the republican candiates for prez are lousy! Iraq is going to hell, if not already there! So what does the 'liberal media' do? Find a Democrat to bash, of couirse. What else is new?
Posted by: Jane | April 8, 2007 12:16 PM
Monica Goodling had a problem. As senior counsel to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and Justice Department liaison to the White House, she no longer seemed to know what the truth was. She also must have been increasingly unclear about who her superiors were. This didn't used to be a problem for Goodling. Everything was once very certain: Her boss's truth was always the same as God's truth. Her boss was always either God or one of His staffers.
A 1995 graduate of Messiah College, an evangelical Christian school, and a 1999 graduate of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School, Goodling is an improbable character for a political scandal. Her chief claim to professional fame appears to have been loyalty to the president and to the process of reshaping the Justice Department in his image (and, thus, His image).
Goodling is one of 150 graduates of Regent University who have served in this administration, as Regent's Web site proudly proclaims. Pretty impressive for a 29-year-old school. The university says that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World." Former attorney general John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have obtained senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America but also to enmesh the two.
Jeffrey A. Brauch, the law school's dean, urges that students reflect upon "the critical role the Christian faith should play in our legal system." Jason Eige (Class of '99), senior assistant to Virginia Attorney General Bob McDonnell, puts it pithily in the alumni newsletter: "Your Résumé Is God's Instrument."
This legal worldview meshed perfectly with that of Ashcroft -- a devout Pentecostal who forbade use of the word "pride," as well as the phrase "no higher calling than public service," on documents bearing his signature. No surprise that, as he began transforming the Justice Department, the Goodlings looked good to him.
One of Ashcroft's most profound changes was to the Civil Rights Division, started in 1957 to fight racial discrimination in voting. Under Ashcroft, career lawyers were systematically fired or forced out and replaced by members of conservative or Christian groups or folks with no civil rights experience. In the five years after 2001, the Civil Rights Division brought no voting cases -- and only one employment case -- on behalf of an African American. Instead, the division took up the "civil rights" abuses of reverse discrimination -- claims of voter fraud or discrimination against Christians. On Feb. 20, Gonzales announced a new initiative called the First Freedom Project to carry out "even greater enforcement of religious rights for all Americans." In his view, the fight for a student's right to read a Bible in school is as urgent as the right to vote.'
packing the justice department with graduates of a cheesy, low rate christian college in order to deny voting rights to blacks and to force christianity on all of us... typical.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 12:12 PM
Of all the damage that the Bushies have done, perhaps the worst blow has been to the fundamental sense of ourselves as the nation that "gets things done." We built the Transcontinental Railroad. We put a man on the moon. Our Arsenal of Democracy won World Wars I & II.
Thanks to the arrogant, hapless Bushies, we are the nation that bellows "Mission Accomplished!" and then gets bogged down in a hopeless, ever-worsening quagmire. We are the nation that suffers a catastrophic loss of an entire region due to hurricane damage, and then flounders helplessly as millions of our fellow citizens give up hope. We are the nation that blusters that its "unacceptable for "evil-doers" to develop nuclear weapons, and then watches helplessly as they go right ahead anyway.
I'm convinced Bush is at 29% because voters perceive him as (increasingly) pathetic, deluded and ineffectual -- a toxic mash-up of Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 12:05 PM
'Shortly before leaving Moscow after four years covering Russia, I was granted a rare audience by a top Kremlin official. As we talked about Vladimir Putin and his relationship with President Bush, the Kremlin official compared the Bush team to the Bolsheviks and laughed at how secretive their White House appeared. "They've adopted some of our techniques with the press," he said.'
bush is similar to the bolsheviks in so many ways...
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 11:54 AM
'It's about time someone took a closer look at the White House's vetting of Bernard Kerik. Shortly after his nomination was withdrawn, Kerik told New York magazine that "everything that's come out is stuff I either told the White House about or they already knew." The WP's reconstruction is helpful in showing exactly what White House aides did know about Kerik--including his shady financial deals, ethics violations, poor management skills, a deputy prosecuted for corruption, and links to organized crime.'
They forgot to mention the cheap affair he had with Judith Regan, the rightwing publisher, in a taxpayer-funded apartment that was suppoised to be used by 9/11 firefighters. Nice, huh? Just like rudy.
Posted by: rudy's main man bernie | April 8, 2007 11:52 AM
'Officials from a national firefighters unions say, among other complaints, that Giuliani failed to support modernized radios that might have spared the lives of more firefighters at the World Trade Center, and that he located the city's main emergency command center in the complex, even though it had been targeted by terrorists eight years earlier.'
This is what the people of NY know--that rudy was respnsible for unneccesary deaths on 9/11 becuase of his budget cuts, which were paid for by the families of our police and firefighters in lost lives. He is a criminal.
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 11:40 AM
'Pope Benedict XVI decried suffering in much of the world in his Easter message, lamenting that "nothing positive" is happening in Iraq and voicing worry over unrest and instability in Afghanistan and bloodshed in parts of Africa and Asia. "How many wounds, how much suffering there is in the world," the pontiff said, delivering his traditional "Urbi et Orbi" Easter address.'
Posted by: | April 8, 2007 11:27 AM
'Doing everything we can,' as nancy reagan whispered in reagan's ear in answer to a reporter's question... which he repeated, as he had been taught to do, becuase much of his time in office he was entirely senile due to alzheimer's, but that's what constitutes greatness in republican minds.
anyway, aussie... many of us are doing everything we can, volunteering, giving money, working our hearts out like we never have before, to prevent a greedy, ignorant, selfish war profiteers like rudy from being elected.
Posted by: drindl | April 8, 2007 11:26 AM
He then casually lumped Iran with Al Qaeda. "Their movement has already displayed more aggressive tendencies by coming here and killing us," he said.
Mr. Giuliani was asked in an interview to clarify that, inasmuch as Iran had no connection to the Sept. 11 attacks. Further, most of its people are Shiites, whereas Al Qaeda is an organization of Sunnis.
"They have a similar objective," he replied, "in their anger at the modern world."
Please America, do not vote this clown in, or anyone else with such an obvious lack of understanding of foreign policy. The world needs a US president who knows SOMETHING about the rest of the world. Al Gore or Bill Richardson would be fine by me, maybe even Joe Biden...
Posted by: Aussie view | April 8, 2007 4:28 AM
It has been a lonely quest. But I still seek the truth, the answer. It's been over 6 years now and still no one has ever answered my question.
Remember Melvin Jay Mel Reynolds, Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from the state of Illinois from 1993 to 1995? In August 1994, he was indicted for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected in November 1994 those forgiving Democratic voters. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1, 1995. Reynolds, who had a wife and a child at the time of the incident, was sentenced to five years in prison and expected to be released in 1998. However, in April 1997, he was convicted on 15 unrelated counts of bank fraud and lying to SEC investigators. These charges resulted in an additional sentence of 78 months in federal prison. Reynolds served all of his first sentence and served forty-two months in prison for the later charges. At that point, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted his sentence.
Now my question has been for 6 years, Why would Bill Clinton commute the sentence of someone convicted of sexual assault of a 16-year-old and solicitation of child pornography?
Posted by: WaitingforAnswer | April 8, 2007 12:13 AM
Then again, I suppose he's turning into a regular O'Reilly! Just a lot more petty.
Posted by: some guy | April 7, 2007 10:46 PM
roo,
No, they didn't. They said 'conspiracy', not murder.
When she talked with Keith she was saying how she thought that his death was definitely exploited and covered up - she reckoned in order to both keep the unfortunate incident out of an already bleak situation as well as to exploit it for recruitment.
Keith more than once hinted that the death must have been intentional, but she kept brushing it off until he finally asked directly and she said, "I don't think we can go that far yet," and then added as an after thought, "but I guess we can't rule it out, can we."
Posted by: some guy | April 7, 2007 10:41 PM
Some guy--Actually, Pat Tillman's family originally raised those concerns:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/27/family.tillman/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
I am not entirely happy that Olbermann decided to ask about that particular aspect of this since I think we are on thin evidence there. But he did certainly not invent it himself.
Posted by: roo | April 7, 2007 10:07 PM
"Keith Olbermann of MSNBC"
lol, besides the obvious fact that his show is incredibly biased and one sided.
He actually questioned the mother of that soldier (the one who we now know was apparently killed by friendly fire) if there was any dount in her mind that her son had been 'intentionally murdered', though she kept brushing away the question seemingly embarrased by the thought.
Posted by: some guy | April 7, 2007 8:51 PM
Urgent news! Red states a generous, blue states are niggardly (stingy):
www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 8:42 PM
the liberal media LIE: Checking Print and Electronic media on a daily basis, I have been able to find very few that are acually reporting FACTS. The most accurate, IMO, is Lou Dobbs of CNN and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. A prime example is the bashing of Nancy Pelosi, as you pointed out so well. This has been going on even before GW was appointed POTUS. The sad thing is we expect the media to at least provide accurate information on stories they report, but it is sadly lacking.
Posted by: lylepink | April 7, 2007 3:56 PM
People Think She Messed Up On This One'
This morning, NBC's Today Show ran a biased segment casting doubt on Pelosi's Syria trip. Every single question asked by anchor Matt Lauer was framed around conservative talking points. In his first question, Lauer claimed Pelosi has gotten off to a rough start because of criticisms from a baseless Washington Post editorial, Vice President Cheney, and the conservative editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal:
LAUER: Vice President Cheney called Nancy Pelosi's trip to Syria "bad behavior," a Washington Post editorial on Thursday called it "counter-productive and foolish," and an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this morning goes a step further and suggests her trip may actually have been a felony, that it may have violated something called the Logan Act. Tim, is this the way the Democrats wanted to get off the mark in terms of foreign affairs?
With his second question, Lauer asserted that "a lot of people think [Pelosi] messed up on this one," and then asked "what's the impact for the Democrats overall?" Lauer never mentioned the fact that five Republicans -- Reps. Frank Wolf, Robert Aderholt, Joseph Pitts, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa -- visited Syria this week.
To wrap up the segment, Lauer suggested that Pelosi may be "seen as usurping presidential power in designing and implementing foreign policy," disregarding Rep. David Hobson's (R-OH) comments that the Pelosi-led delegation "reinforced the administration's positions."
Posted by: the liberal media LIE | April 7, 2007 2:41 PM
There was a lot of buzz today about a corruption case in Wisconsin from last year. A Bush-appointed US Attorney indicted a government bureaucrat in a case that implicated the state's Democratic governor. But yesterday a circuit court threw out the conviction saying the evidence against the convicted official was "beyond thin."
Indeed, the circuit court judges thought the case was so bogus that it's hard not to ask whether the US Attorney in this case, Steven Biskupic, might not be one of those "loyal Bushies" who kept his job because he knew that one of his jobs was getting Republicans elected. It prompts the question; but it's certainly too soon to say that's the case. And yet look at how Biskupic's number two and spokesperson responded when asked if the prosecution was politically motivated.
In an interview, Michelle Jacobs of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Milwaukee denied that the prosecution was politically motivated.
"I can tell you that from our perspective it was not, but that is as far as I'm going to go," said Jacobs, a first assistant U.S. attorney.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 2:38 PM
'Don't miss this New York Times piece, in which Rudy Giuliani reveals the paucity of foreign policy experience lurking behind the haze of 9/11 mythology that envelopes "America's Mayor." The best part comes at the very end:
As for Iran, Mr. Giuliani said that "in the long term," it might be "more dangerous than Iraq."
He then casually lumped Iran with Al Qaeda. "Their movement has already displayed more aggressive tendencies by coming here and killing us," he said.
Mr. Giuliani was asked in an interview to clarify that, inasmuch as Iran had no connection to the Sept. 11 attacks. Further, most of its people are Shiites, whereas Al Qaeda is an organization of Sunnis.
"They have a similar objective," he replied, "in their anger at the modern world."
what a clown. the iranians ARE the modern world. up until bush, the iranian young people loved this country, and their democracy movement was growing larger and had great potential. now, to advocate democracy is to be seen as a tool of bush and so the movement has been demoralized.
just one more way certain people are pushing so that war with iran is inevitable... and it's all about profits and business.
rudy's lack of foreign policy substance, his greed, his ignorance of the middle east, his retread bush policies, his naked ambiton, all guarantee that he will be just another bush. only worse.
Posted by: LOL | April 7, 2007 2:35 PM
I am hateful and care not at all about reaching a philosophical compromise with those more intelligent than am I.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 7, 2007 2:21 PM
Aw, them Dukes!
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 7, 2007 2:10 PM
a haiku:
Clinton
But not Bubba, other
Busybody broad
Unelectable
Posted by: lylepink | April 7, 2007 2:09 PM
The history of Iran and Iraq, and our involvement goes back in modern times to The Sha of Iran, where the US was involved in installing him and then getting rid of him. This pattern has been consistant over the years, as long as their leaders follow our orders, all is ok, then when they don't toe the line, we mount an effort to get rid of them.
Posted by: lylepink | April 7, 2007 2:09 PM
How the Post is helping bush/cheney foment a war on Iran:
The Reuters original:
"Iraqi army soldiers swept into the city of Diwaniya early this morning to disrupt militia activity and return security and stability of the volatile city back to the government of Iraq," the U.S. military said in a statement.
SCATTERED RESISTANCE
Bleichwehl said troops, facing scattered resistance, discovered a factory that produced "explosively formed penetrators" (EFPs), a particularly deadly type of explosive that can destroy a main battle tank and several weapons caches.'
Screen capture from Google --one hour ago:
'Iraqi, US forces sweep through volatile Iraqi city
Washington Post, DC - i hour ago
Bleichwehl said troops, facing scattered resistance, discovered a factory that produced "explosively formed penetrators" (EFPs), a particularly deadly type of explosive that can destroy a main battle tank and several weapons caches.'
Now go to story as it stands posted now. The above graf has been deleted, so that you will not know that the IEDs that the admin is accusing Iran of making, are actually being manufactured in Iraq. And thus, the compliant media once again spins the facts to help cheney perpetrate a war on iran, based on lies.
if you fall for this again, you are bigger suckers than I can even imagine.
Posted by: Jane | April 7, 2007 12:52 PM
In Watergate, "Deep Throat" counselled that the royal road to the scandal's source was to "follow the money." In the proliferating scandals of the Bush presidency, Congress is searching down a trail of records that did not exist in the time of Nixon: follow the emails.
The discovery of a hitherto unknown treasure-trove of emails buried by the Bush White House may prove to be as informative as Nixon's secret White House tapes. On 23 March 2007 the National Journal disclosed that Karl Rove does "about 95 percent" of his emails outside the White House system, instead using a Republican National Committee (RNC) account. What's more, Rove doesn't tap most of his messages on a White House computer, but rather on a BlackBerry provided by the RNC.
By this method, Rove and other White House aides evade the legally required archiving of official emails. The first glimmer of this dodge appeared in a small item buried in a January 2004 issue of U.S. News & World Report: "'I don't want my E-mail made public,' said one insider. As a result, many aides have shifted to Internet E-mail instead of the White House system. 'It's Yahoo!, baby,' says a Bushie."
The offshoring of White House records via RNC emails became apparent when an RNC domain, gwb43.com (referring to George W Bush, 43rd president), turned up in a batch of emails the White House gave to House and Senate committees in mid-March. Rove's deputy, Scott Jennings, former Bush legal counsel Harriet Miers and her deputies strangely had used gwb43.com as an email domain.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:44 PM
1953 UK and USA remove democratically elected government and replace with dictator (The Shah of Iran).
1957 USA sets up and trains Shah's secret police, SAVAK.
1979 Iran overthrows the Shah who flees to the USA.
After the USA refuses to return the Shah, Iran takes 52 USA embassy staff hostage for 444 days.
1980 USA and UK arm Iraq when it invades Iran.
USA fails to back UN condemnation of invasion.
1987 USA seizes Iranian ship in international waters.
1988 USA bombs oil facilities in Iran.
USA warship shoots down Iranian passenger plane killing 286 people.
1995 USA imposes sanctions on Iran.
2002 USA threatens Iran with regime change.
2007 USA takes 5 Iranian diplomats hostage in Iraq. (Jan 2007 - ?)
2007 Iran takes 15 UK sailors hostage for 13 days.
Posted by: the facts | April 7, 2007 12:22 PM
The real history of US, UK and Iran relations. All assertions fact-checked and meticulously sourced.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:20 PM
MSNBC has put together a slide-show offering a brief history of Iran. They've managed to go back further than 1979 - impressive for a mainstream outlet, whose memories usually begin with the Islamic revolution.
But, amazingly, they've contrived to ignore Mohammed Mossadeq, the democratically elected prime minister of Iran who in 1953 was overthrown in a UK/CIA-backed coup, which installed the brutal and corrupt Shah in his place. The overthrow of Mossadeq is probably, together with the 1979 Islamic revolution, the seminal moment in the history of 20th century Iran, and MSNBC has just wiped it out for political convenience. Mossadeq had dared to nationalise the Iranian oil industry at the expense of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (now British Petroleum), and such defiance could obviously not be tolerated by the masters of the world.
The slide-show also makes no mention of the fact that the U.S. supported Iraq in its aggression against Iran, which left up a million people dead on all sides.
The mainstream media has been caught, once again, shamelessly re-writing history in the interests of power. That MSNBC has completely obliterated the U.S.' history of aggression towards Iran at a time when the Bush administration is trying to drum up militaristic fervour amongst the population with a possible view to another imperialistic war against that country is an utter disgrace.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:18 PM
We've spent a lot of time laughing at John McCain's safe stroll through the Shorja market in Baghdad, but today it's Rep. Mike Pence's turn to be mocked for his asinine remark describing their shopping spree, complete with 100 American troops, 3 Black Hawk helicopters and 2 Apache gunships, as:
...like a normal outdoor market in Indiana in the summer time.
From today's Los Angeles Times, Baghdad in the Midwest cornfields, the story of a typical Indiana family enjoying a trip to the market:
My wife came into the living room wearing a Kevlar vest, helmet and night-vision goggles.
"What are you doing?" I asked.
"Have you completely forgotten, silly head? We're going to the market." [...]
Carol helped the boys get ready, putting on their sneakers and body armor. I phoned the Indiana National Guard so that they could radio the 434th Special Air Wing at Grissom Air Force Base, which in turn scrambled two F-14 Tomcats. Then we hopped in the wagon. [...]
The F-14s flew by low. Each of us activated our earpieces and hand-held mini walkie-talkies, agreed on a frequency, and I slowed the car to 15 mph as Carol and the boys opened the doors and rolled out, taking cover under shrubbery near the Bibb lettuce stand (the boys love salad!).
So far, so good. [...]
Carol, I noticed, had found cover behind the wall of a largely destroyed warehouse. A sniper had a bead on the glint from her eyeglasses, which the afternoon sunshine had caught (Indiana is known for its beautiful summers). [...]
A CBU-52B cluster bomb exploded to our left, and I hit the gas. We could see the boys ahead, waving flares in the dense smoke. I didn't stop the car completely. Kevin threw Chip in first, then jumped in himself.
"You kids have fun?" Carol asked.
"Yeah!" said Chip.
"He was holding a loaf of bread and it got blown out of his hand!"
"It was so awesome, Mum."
We all laughed. Really hard. That's how shopping is in Indiana in the summer. It's just fun. It's fun and safe and hopeful and full of warm and welcoming Indianans and insurgents and snipers and bombs.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:15 PM
Signs of dissent are appearing in the military. Last month, a career chief master sergeant in the Air Force wrote an opinion piece in the military newspaper Stars and Stripes opposing the war, and a busload of retired veterans and civilian activists toured military bases in the South, hoping to coax more support from active duty soldiers. Over the past month, more than 1,700 soldiers have signed an online Appeal for Redress -- www.appealforredress.org -- a legally sanctioned way for members of the military to oppose the war.
A couple of underground publications like GI Special at www.militaryproject.org, have sprung up online, and supportive troops have clandestinely dropped hard copies inside military barracks.
Last week, retired Marine Corps Lt. Col. Andrew Horne, who served in the Persian Gulf two years ago, rebutted President Bush's weekly radio address.
Said Horne: "The commander-in-chief has failed to properly lead the troops, and previous Congresses didn't ask the tough questions or demand accountability. The result is the mess we are in today."
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:09 PM
tretched by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. military has not been able to stick to its goals on the amount of time troops get to spend at home between deployments.
On Monday, the Pentagon said it would send about 4,500 active duty troops to Iraq before they had spent even a year back at home. The Pentagon's goal for active-duty troops is two years at home for every one year deployed.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:07 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon has identified some 14,000 National Guard soldiers who may go to Iraq as part of planning for deployments stretching as far as 2010, a senior U.S. defense official said on Friday.
Posted by: we'll be there for 30 years | April 7, 2007 12:05 PM
WASHINGTON, April 6 -- If the Democratic ascendance on Capitol Hill was supposed to usher in dark days for Republicans, it is hard to tell from talking to moderate ones like Mike Ferguson, who represents a suburban district in central New Jersey.
As the new Democrat-led House rushed to complete its business before adjourning for spring break this week, Representative Ferguson was marveling at the many bills that had been passed in Congress's first 100 days, including one that would make it easier for unions to organize and another that would increase the minimum wage.
"Under the Republican majority, those bills would have never gotten to the floor," he explained before heading back to his district. "Now they have been brought to the floor, and I've voted for them."
Mr. Ferguson's enthusiasm captures a peculiar political reality in the Capitol: many Republicans from swing districts in the Northeast are finding that life under Democratic rule has its advantages.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:01 PM
'In short order, John McCain has gone from Republican presidential front-runner to political death watch. On Wednesday, the Arizona senator kicks off a month of high-profile events, seeking a resurrection of sorts.
He badly needs it. Mr. McCain just reported raising $12.5 million for the first-quarter -- behind Republican rivals Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani, as well as Democrats Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards. Most analysts won't go so far as to bury Mr. McCain, citing his Republican rivals' own baggage: Both Mr. Romney and Mr. Giuliani are suspect among social conservatives for their records supporting abortion and gay rights, and gun control. But the one-time GOP front-runner clearly had a very bad week.
It began with reports of the heavily guarded senator shopping at a Baghdad market and declaring "things are better," and it ended with a New Hampshire poll showing Mr. McCain, the longtime leader in that first-primary state, now in a dead heat with Mr. Romney. Sandwiched in between were the stories of his money woes.
All of that makes next week -- and the next month -- critical to the survival of his candidacy. Mr. McCain's campaign scheduled three policy speeches in consecutive weeks, culminating April 25-27 with his "official" announcement tour through early nominating states of New Hampshire, Iowa and South Carolina and finally to his home state of Arizona. Wednesday's first speech, at the Virginia Military Institute, will showcase Mr. McCain's "commitment to winning the war in Iraq."
Trouble is, no one doubts Mr. McCain's commitment. But recent polls show the public is increasingly doubtful of the prospects of winning the war. And that, in turn, may be undercutting Mr. McCain's chances of winning the nomination.'
Posted by: WSJ | April 7, 2007 11:59 AM
'John McCain (R-Ariz.) will launch a high-profile effort next week to convince Americans that the Iraq war is winnable, embracing the unpopular conflict with renewed vigor as he attempts to reignite his stalling bid for the presidency.
With the Virginia Military Institute as a backdrop, McCain plans to argue in a speech on Wednesday that victory in Iraq is essential to American security and that President Bush's war machine is finally getting on track after four years, aides and advisers said.'
In other words, t's all about John McCain. He wants to use the dead bodies of our soliders as a prop for his campaign, that's all. Same as Bush. They simply use our troops as pawns. Too bad people can't seem to see this.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 11:49 AM
Breaux seems like a strong candidate for LA. I remember his family home was destroyed by Katrina, his roots and life's work are there.
I also remember that he is a consensus builder, something LA could certainly use.
Plus, he isn't a Bush "heck of a job Brownie" Republican. He seems much stronger than CC's #1 choice for a change.
Posted by: Truth Hunter | April 7, 2007 11:29 AM
This last post is asking for a mind reader and I or no one has that ability.
Posted by: lylepink | April 7, 2007 1:38 AM
It's been over 6 years now and still no one has ever answered my question.
Remember Melvin Jay Mel Reynolds, Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from the state of Illinois from 1993 to 1995? In August 1994, he was indicted for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected in November 1994 those forgiving Democratic voters. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1, 1995. Reynolds, who had a wife and a child at the time of the incident, was sentenced to five years in prison and expected to be released in 1998. However, in April 1997, he was convicted on 15 unrelated counts of bank fraud and lying to SEC investigators. These charges resulted in an additional sentence of 78 months in federal prison. Reynolds served all of his first sentence and served forty-two months in prison for the later charges. At that point, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted his sentence.
Now my question has been for 6 years, Why would Bill Clinton commute the sentence of someone convicted of sexual assault of a 16-year-old and solicitation of child pornography? Was it that he admired Mels ability to seduce a 16-year-old? After all Monica was a ripe old 22.
Posted by: WaitingforAnswer | April 7, 2007 1:18 AM
'Boo hoo roo - poor OPEC, can't use inflated prices to prop up their evil regimes. that must be a real blow to the liberal cause.'
oh helloo, saudi arabia is your friend, buddy, they love republicans, they kiss republicans like your president on the lips. your terrorist friends, the saudis.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 1:07 AM
Is there anyway to get rid posters who think their opinions are so important they have to post them multiple times? Give your ego a break. And what's with the youtube postings. Haven't you got an original thought? Go find a blog, you say. Did you even know what site this is? It's washingtonpost.com's Politics Blog. It is a Blog, you double posting youtube dependent.
Posted by: LookinMirrorMatt | April 7, 2007 1:02 AM
'Surely white people are entitled to be in charge in one place on earth, when everywhere else has fallen prey to multiculturalism and diversity, which foster high crime rates, immorality, lack of unity, and many other ills?''
you make me vomit, you overprivileged little white trash..
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:59 AM
War bleeds Baghdad of its best
In 2003, a Baghdad woman named Hamdiyah al-Dulaimi had three sons -- the lights of her life. Now, she is living alone as a refugee in Syria. Baghdad is a city that is hemorrhaging its best and brightest -- doctors, professors and teachers called "the brain of Baghdad" -- while many of those left behind are brutalized and traumatized. Al-Dulaimi left behind the mayhem and madness after her sons were all dragged from her home and killed.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:56 AM
War bleeds Baghdad of its best
In 2003, a Baghdad woman named Hamdiyah al-Dulaimi had three sons -- the lights of her life. Now, she is living alone as a refugee in Syria. Baghdad is a city that is hemorrhaging its best and brightest -- doctors, professors and teachers called "the brain of Baghdad" -- while many of those left behind are brutalized and traumatized. Al-Dulaimi left behind the mayhem and madness after her sons were all dragged from her home and killed.
Posted by: | April 7, 2007 12:54 AM
Here in the Tar Heel state of NC, Bill Graham does indeed have momentum. He also has a great organization in place to run for governor. It is true that NC voters see no connection between a Presidential election and governor's election. But, being that Liddy Dole is up for re-election this year, she and Graham are likely to help one another campaign. This could honestly help the Republicans win big in 08' here in NC. Regardless of what the liberal naysayers suggest, Dole is as safe as a cub behind it's mother. She may not be the favorite in ntl. politics, but she is a favorite here in the Tar Heel state. So I say to all you liberals who are hoping to beat her in 08', play the lottery with your money...your chances of winning would be much better!
Posted by: reason | April 6, 2007 11:27 PM
Can we do something about all the freaking trolling on this thread? Seriously - if you want to post your own news stories go to a blog or write a stupid Xanga - this is a comment thread. It's rude and annoying.
On a note that's related: Bruce Lunsford the "2003 gubernatorial candidate" currently in the KY gov race actually dropped out of the race at the last minute and endorsed the far-right a-hole that ended up being corrupt as sin, the Republican that is. If I'm not mistaken, he then endorsed the Republican in the 2004 Senate race, who was, by the way, senile. running now in the Democratic primary?
Video of Fletcher introducing Lunsford for his endorsement. "Shares our values." Yep, probably does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddva6LTKbyk
Posted by: Matt | April 6, 2007 11:26 PM
Can we do something about all the freaking trolling on this thread? Seriously - if you want to post your own news stories go to a blog or write a stupid Xanga - this is a comment thread. It's rude and annoying.
On a note that's related: Bruce Lunsford the "2003 gubernatorial candidate" currently in the KY gov race actually dropped out of the race at the last minute and endorsed the far-right a-hole that ended up being corrupt as sin, the Republican that is. If I'm not mistaken, he then endorsed the Republican in the 2004 Senate race, who was, by the way, senile. running now in the Democratic primary?
Video of Fletcher introducing Lunsford for his endorsement. "Shares our values." Yep, probably does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddva6LTKbyk
Posted by: Matt | April 6, 2007 11:25 PM
Extremely interesting post Zouk. You won't see that article from Australia in the American new media. Why not? This growing chism between the Sunnis and Al Qaeda will erupt with violence similar to Hamas and Fatah. This is common among many total control factions. It becomes who can I trust? Is my number one lieutenant planning to kill me? If they don't have any qualms about killing their own people, how can I trust them? We are starting to see the beginning of the end for Al Qaeda in Iraq. The locals have found out you never make a pact with the devil. He never keeps his part of the bargain.
For those of you who missed the article, here it is again. Thanks again, KOZ.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21517534-23109,00.html
Posted by: tarheel | April 6, 2007 11:15 PM
To me, I don't see how former Lt. Govs. Steve Henry and Steve Beshear could truly be the frontrunners. Beshear's running mate, St. Sen. Daniel Mongiardo, was the nominee for the U.S. Senate in 2004, losing to incumbent Jim Bunning 49% to 51%. Mongiardo only lost due to coattails from Bush's KY landslide. To me I think it hurts Beshear to have a running mate that eclipses you. Beshear served a term as Attorney General and one as Lt. Gov., but left office 20 years ago after losing a gubernatorial primary. Then a decade ago he challenged Mitch McConnell for reelection. To me his yesterdayness and running mate that eclipses him make his candidacy a rough sell. Henry has had ethics violations charges during his 2nd term as Lt. Gov., and I don't think the Dems could hope to beat a corrupt Governor (or not as corrupt Congresswoman) with a corrupt man. I've seen polls that showed Bruce Lunsford in the lead, I think his running mate also eclipses him (AG Greg Stumbo), but perhaps thats not as much of a problem as I think. He has the personal wealth to buy the nomination. However, in 2003, Lunsford ran a bitter primary campaign against then-AG Ben Chandler (now a congressman), and after dropping out, endorsed Spkr. Jody Richards (D). Once Chandler was nominated, Lunsford endorsed GOP Rep. Ernie Fletcher, who won. That makes many Dems hate him, but can his $ overcome that? I've always doubted it, and think he'd lose a runoff reguardless of $. And for the Dem primary, there will very likely be a runoff. Spkr. Richards was also reelected Spkr by the House in '05, only after promising he wouldn't run for Gov. again. He is running again, but (to me) seems he has a strong ticket. Who knows whether that false promise will really hurt him. Jonathan Miller, KY's 2-term State Treasurer, seems to be the candidate least flawed. He also has been portraying himself as the alternative to Lunsford and thus a frontrunner. That may be realistic, or it may be a strategy. I think it might work, in such a large field with many B candidates. Before it was concluded that the polling leads for Beshear and Henry are based on name recognition, and that seems likely, but odd since the primary is so close. When will the polls become less a reflection of name recognition? It seems they should have by now. On the GOP side, fmr. Rep. Anne Northup's biggest problem is Billy Harper. Harper's candidacy only cuts anti-Fletcher votes out of Northup's camp. Northup must either win 40%, or make sure nobody does, to try to force a runoff. If she can win the primary outright, or at least force a runoff, she will be nominee & the frontrunner in November. If Harper does well, the anti-Fletcher vote could be split & the Governor would be renominated as long as he could win 40% and avoid a runoff. Reguardless of who he was challenged by, Gov. Fletcher would lose any runoff primary. Fletcher would lose to any Democratic nominee besides for 2. If fmr. Lt. Gov. Steve Henry wins the Dem nomination, the Dems will be unable to attack Fletcher on his biggest weakness: corruption. If Bruce Lunsford's nominated, the Democratic base has little motivation to turn out, unless their anti-Fletcher passions override their anti-Lunsford passions. But they might feel they're are no differences between the two and note vote. The Dems wanna see the Gov. renominated regardlessly. I think the strongest GOP nominee would be Northup, and the strongest Dem nominee would probably be Miller. In the spirit of the line, I will do a KY line in order of candidates chances(in my view):
GOP
1. Northup
2. Fletcher
3. Harper
Dems
1. Miller
2. Richards
3. Beshear
4. Lunsford
5. Henry
6. Galbraith
7. Henseley
Posted by: J Perez | April 6, 2007 7:17 PM
roo - so you have no respect for your grandparents and traditional values?
Not that I'm surprised. Liberals usually don't have respect for anyone or loyalty to anyone. They would sacrice their own spouse and kids on the altar of progessivism and multiculturalism.
How despicable.
Posted by: William | April 6, 2007 6:47 PM
William--Hey, if old people are wise, you should definitely consult the pharaohs of Egypt. Those guys are REALLY old! Plus they were gods too so they really know what they are talking about.
Posted by: roo | April 6, 2007 6:35 PM
roo - I have no problem with Jindal being elected governor in Pennsylvania or Ohio or Oregon.
But for him to be governor of a Southern state just isn't proper, somehow.
Blarg, the South is perhaps the last remaining place on earth where white people still have sonme pride in who they are and their ancestors.
Of course, to liberals, all white people are evil and bad and must be brainwashed into drowning themselves in self-guilt.
I don't consider myself racist. I belief that all people are equal, and I have friends and acquaintances who are black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.
But at the same time, I have the right to be proud of my Southern heritage and the accomplishments of my ancestors.
I ask myself, would my grandfather have voted for Jindal?
And then I get my answer.
Old people are supposed to be wise, right?
The foundation of Southern culture and society is a white-dominated social structure.
Surely white people are entitled to be in charge in one place on earth, when everywhere else has fallen prey to multiculturalism and diversity, which foster high crime rates, immorality, lack of unity, and many other ills?
Posted by: William | April 6, 2007 6:09 PM
More thinkers and not doers
The objective of any military is to "Close with and destroy the enemy! And then to occupy their territory."
It's as simple as that.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 5:48 PM
Very interesting
The objective of military action is not to kill the enemy, but rather to break his will to fight.
If this thought is so obvious to our military leadership and extends to the lowest level Marines and Soldiers "stuck in Iraq" as John Kerry would say, why is this concept so foreign to the leadership of the Democrat Party? How can our media "experts" fail to understand this simple thought mastered by privates and corporals who didn't attend Ivy-League J-Schools?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/a_new_yardstick.html
read the whole article for the implications of this wisdom.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 5:40 PM
CRAWFORD, Texas - Iraq war protester Cindy Sheehan urged President George W. Bush to "end this madness" in Iraq on Friday in a march toward Bush's ranch. --SNIP-- Sheehan took advantage of a heavy media presence covering Bush's Easter weekend by leading an anti-war protest of about three dozen people in a march to the security checkpoint outside Bush's ranch.
I'll vote against the war for a small bribe, I'll protest the war if you pay my expenses. 36 whole protesters. Getting more pitiful by the minute.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 5:35 PM
roo - I didn't see your points. I exit about 6 every evening to run my island nation. I would be happy to take them on.
"AN influential Sunni Arab insurgent group has called on al-Qaeda in Iraq to "review" its behaviour in what is evidence of a growing rift between home- grown insurgents and al-Qaeda."
Its starting to come apart for the enemy. Imagine that - we win, they lose. how unliberal of a thought is that?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21517534-23109,00.html
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 5:30 PM
kingofzouk--"While children will be participating in a Washington tradition next week rolling Easter eggs on the White House lawn, anti-war and human rights activists will be inviting others to join in an unusual new activity: an Easter cluster-bomb hunt."
Do you understand that in some parts of the world there are thousands of very real cluster bombs just waiting for very real little children to come by and be blown into very many very bloodly pieces.
Like, say, in Lebanon.
Posted by: roo | April 6, 2007 5:27 PM
MikeB says
"And, lylepink, if you want a woman as President, you would be hard pressed to find someone better than Ms. Pelosi. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who could match her intelligence, common sense, or talents."
Yikes. I'd take any Senator from Maine over Speaker Pelosi.
Posted by: bsimon | April 6, 2007 5:24 PM
"she couldn't even deliver a message from Israel without being officially corrected."
Strangely enough, Olmert was corrected by his spokes-person. Apparently Speaker Pelosi didn't say anything to the Syrians that Olmert didn't say to Pelosi. Strange, that.
Posted by: bsimon | April 6, 2007 5:23 PM
Boo hoo roo - poor OPEC, can't use inflated prices to prop up their evil regimes. that must be a real blow to the liberal cause.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 5:21 PM
kingofzouk--"...irrational moonbeam leftists..."
Hey, your right to call people names has been revoked.
You have failed to answer all my points from the last several days.
Either do so or admit that I am correct, then you may continue using childish names to draw attention away from your weaker argumentation.
Posted by: roo | April 6, 2007 5:17 PM
kingofzouk--"Those on the right think America is the last great hope of mankind."
The right-wing America is, definitely, not a "great hope" for the rest of us. It might be the last of mankind, though.
kingofzouk--"The fact that liberals have to lie about this country should convince any objective observer as to who's telling the truth. The left, for example, insists that we invaded Iraq for its oil. And, yet, even after all this time, not only have we not confiscated their oil fields, we haven't even used Iraqi oil revenue to finance, as I think we should, that country's reconstruction."
Are you aware of the egregiously advantageous deal that the oil companies worked out for governing the oil dispensement--outside OPEC, too.
The "Iraq war was just about oil" I see on this site are incredibly naive or disingenious. That said, the enormous war profiteering is deeply disconcerting and absolutely played SOME role in internal deliberations at least at the individual level.
Posted by: roo | April 6, 2007 5:11 PM
MikeB: There are a number of things we agree on, and the only thing I can think of at the moment is we disagree on Hillary. Nancy Pelosi is all you say and then some. What I have done is research Hillary every way I can with my limited knowledge of computers, and found a truely remarkable person in every way that is important to most of us.Remember I have only had this thing for a year and when I got it didn't even know how to turn it on. Only in the last six months or so have I been able to find things. I still don't know what cut and paste means, or how to use it. I think it is some way to run the mouse over something and then put it on as if you had typed it, I just don't know.
Posted by: lylepink | April 6, 2007 5:09 PM
Let's review the Dem congress' acomplishments so far:
1. passed no bills except min wage which is caught in committee, so really no new laws
2. tried to usurp CinC title for Generalissimo pelosi
3. tried to usurp Sec'y of state title for generalissimo pelosi
4. tried to raise taxes by $400B
5. renegged on promise to include minority
6. renegged on promise to limit voting time
7. renegged on promise not to defund troops
8. culture of corruption under new leadership
9. inventing fictitious scandals left and right to cover ineptitude of Reid and pelosi
10. Pelosi needs a bigger plane to fit her ego
11. five day work week - guffaw
So is there a single electoral promise that was kept?
I had no idea what fun it is to sit on the sidelines and snipe, as was done all last year by the noxious Libs. but the Dems make is so easy to find fault, they are swimming in it. I don't even need to make things up like Libs do.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 4:53 PM
Only on this site could a gathering of irrational moonbeam leftists support a trip by someone with delusions of granduer which has been roundly critized by even the most partisan and biased media. she couldn't even deliver a message from Israel without being officially corrected. that botox is taking its toll.
Consensus only matters in science in this strange part of the world. but is is most amusing to see your desperation to attach some sort of rebuttal to the idiocy. this is the beginning of a long slide downhill for Dems. Just wait until they try to send a clean military spending bill to bush and the outcry from the cave-and-run coalition. the party is going to have a psychological breakdown. Dean is in charge so it seems very fitting.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 4:41 PM
KOZ - What Nancy Peloski did was her Constitutional DUTY. She was not making policy, she was listening and attempting to jump start diplomatic efforts at a Middle East settlement between Israel and Syria. This is in stark contrast to what Denny Hassert did as Speaker. Then, he went on a South Amercian and Asian tour, with other Republican "leaders" and actually advised the leaders of those countries to deal directly with COngress, bypassing the Clinton White House altogether. Finally, least you think it passed our notice, Nancy Pelosi was part of a BIPARTISAN Congressional delegation. If you check your COnstitution - and I know you right wing fanatics don't much believe in the Constitution - the eXecutive Branch is NOT soley reponsible for making foreign policy!!!! That is the right and duty of the Senate AND the House approves or disapproves of that by choosing to fund it and otherwise exercising oversight. Given the long series of lies, half truth, the threats of military action, and all of the other nonsense originating from the Bush White House I've got to say "it's about time" someone started acting in the best intersts of this country. Thank YOU Nacy Pelosi!
(And, lylepink, if you want a woman as President, you would be hard pressed to find someone better than Ms. Pelosi. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who could match her intelligence, common sense, or talents.)
Posted by: MikeB | April 6, 2007 4:33 PM
blarg says
"John McCain visited a foreign government? But he's just a legislator! He should be thrown in jail!"
No, no, no. He just went to the market. There's this great stall there, where a woman makes hummus according to her grandmother's secret recipe - but she won't Fedex it, so you have to go in person.
Posted by: bsimon | April 6, 2007 4:30 PM
Wash Times says
"Indeed, few news organizations heeded Army Maj. Gen. Michael D. Barbero, the Joint Staff's deputy director for operations, who announced March 30 that attacks against Iraqi civilians were down 20 percent, civilian deaths down 30 percent nationwide and civilian death in Baghdad down by 50 percent"
That's great news. Surely we won't have to commit to keeping the troops there for another full year, year and a half.
Posted by: bsimon | April 6, 2007 4:28 PM
John McCain visited a foreign government? But he's just a legislator! He should be thrown in jail!
Posted by: Blarg | April 6, 2007 4:28 PM
Asked if she had discussed the lack of women on the council, she told reporters, "The issue has been brought up in our discussions with the Saudis on this trip."
I ma bringing SF values to the world. Hear me roar.
Posted by: General Pelosi | April 6, 2007 4:22 PM
"No-name coward" says the self-proclaimed king, spewing his insult from a computer monitor, under a pseudonym.
Posted by: The Kettle Black | April 6, 2007 4:18 PM
The kingofzouk/Colbert thing was flippin' funny. That would explain a lot. Probably a team of creators, one person couldn't have that much time on their hands.
Posted by: Crtr | April 6, 2007 4:17 PM
"Perhaps Pelosi and other foreign officials will understand this simple equation one day, after again failing to persuade Assad to sell Hizbullah out. Unfortunately, foreign bigwigs come to town, their domestic calculations in hand; then they leave, and we're left picking up the pieces. "
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=5&article_id=81211
It seems the local Lebonese didn't appreciate General pelosi's visit either. did all that plastic surgery squeeze her brain somehow?
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 4:17 PM
While children will be participating in a Washington tradition next week rolling Easter eggs on the White House lawn, anti-war and human rights activists will be inviting others to join in an unusual new activity: an Easter cluster-bomb hunt.
you all have a sick sense of humor.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 4:15 PM
On his return earlier this week from a trip to Iraq, Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, said the nation is not getting a "full picture" of obvious progress made by the U.S. in the country.
Indeed, few news organizations heeded Army Maj. Gen. Michael D. Barbero, the Joint Staff's deputy director for operations, who announced March 30 that attacks against Iraqi civilians were down 20 percent, civilian deaths down 30 percent nationwide and civilian death in Baghdad down by 50 percent.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070405-114822-9240r.htm
Still some work to do but the truth is wriggling free of the death grip the media and Libs have had on it for the last few months.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 4:13 PM
Zouk Rule #3 - When being the last one out the door at the RNC, leave the PC and lights on to signify opposition to that loser (who was a winner, before he was a loser) Al Gore.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 4:12 PM
Zouk Rule #1 - Create History to fit the post
Zouk Rule #2 - When caught on anything (a falsehood, an inconsistency, anything)
a) Change the topic
b) Attack the poster who caught it
c) Both a) and b)
d) Just don't respond
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 4:07 PM
Jindal can't win in Louisianan. No way...
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Posted by: m | April 6, 2007 4:07 PM
Oo! How DARE that filthy foreigner Jindal even dream of the American Dream?! Outrage! Get your hoods!
Posted by: roo | April 6, 2007 4:04 PM
I see the ignorant no-name coward is morphing into sybil-like personalites. none of them can confront any issues and prefer to just spew insults and avoid facts. all the lies the Dems have told are coming home to roost. It is now completely clear they intend to hand off this war to the jihadists if the voters will allow it. We won't. Playing around with tax increases is maddening enough but that didn't threaten our civilization. you all have been revealed for the charlatans you are through your minions Pelosi, Murtha, Kennedy, Reid, Sheehan, Jefferson, Frank, Hastings, Moran, leaky Leahy and the rest. this gang of crooks has led a once noble party down the path of doom. It only took a small experiment in granting them a little power to show how determined they are to ruin everything America stands for. thanks for making that so clear now even USA today and WaPo has figured it out.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 4:01 PM
Zouk: Do the Republican Congressmen who frequently visit with foreign leaders, including the leaders of Syria, also belong in jail? Or is this another double standard?
William: You're arguing that people shouldn't vote for Jindal because of his ethnic background. And to back that up, you're citing the fact that Jindal wouldn't have been liked by 19th-century Southerners. (Who, to put it delicately, weren't exactly paragons of racial tolerance.) Tell me again how you're not a racist.
Posted by: Blarg | April 6, 2007 3:59 PM
"Ignorant coward." Classy. Kingofzouk is obviously the Stephen Colbert-like avatar of a liberal activist attempting to advance his/her views by portraying conservatives as ridiculous. The hysterical ranting, blind obeisance to the party line, and self-adulation are an attempt to mock the stereotype of the empty vitriol of the current conservative leadership. The greatest failing of this ruse is excess; in reality even the most shrill partisan would maintain some degree of dignity so as to enhance credibility, in contrast with zouk.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:53 PM
kingofzouk 02:26PM: I do not usually respond to kooks but in your case of a flat out Bald Faced Lie I will. Keep up ypur pretense if you have nothing better to do, but at least try and get something correct, sometime.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:51 PM
We now know that slavery is an indefensible evil, and that Davis and the other Confederates were wrong to condone it and to own slaves, but back then, slavery was commonplace almost everywhere in the world, and abolitionists were widely considered to be radical and outside the mainstream.
Therefore, you can't really fault Davis for supporting something that was, in his society, completely acceptable, and that he grew up learning to support.
FYI, Davis did admit that slavery was wrong after the war.
Posted by: William | April 6, 2007 3:48 PM
Will somebody please keep posting in William's name?
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:46 PM
Zouk he not yapping about the "haves", he's yapping about the "have mores" (see G. W. Bush)
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:43 PM
"William, I think Jefferson Davis would have considered Breaux to be a Louisiana citizen. And he would have considered Bobby Jindal to be a slave."
I think your right about what Davis would consider Breaux.
As for Jindal, I don't think there were any Indian slaves.
In fact, the American Indians (Cherokee, etc) of Oklahoma opted to ally themselves with the South during the war.
This was for a couple for reasons.
First, many Cherokee and other Indians were slaveowners themselves, or at least condoned it.
Secondly, the Federal (Yankee) government had been encroaching on the Indians' territory and persecuting them.
The Confederates opposed empire building and imperialism, and were happy to let the Indians live unmolested in OK and other Western areas. The Indian tribes were even invited to send voting delegates to the Confederate Congress, and did so.
Finally, the Native Americans shared the Southern belief of limited government and self-determination (except for slaves.)
The South wanted to be free of the North and the Indians wanted to be free from the North too.
So Jeff Davis would not have made Jindal a slave. He would have recognized that Jindal is intelligent and talented and probably appointed him as ambassador to the American Indians, or ambassador to the real Indians (in India) or something.
Posted by: William | April 6, 2007 3:43 PM
Ms. Pelosi and her Congressional entourage spoke to President Assad on various issues, among other things saying, "We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace." She is certainly not the first member of Congress--of either party--to engage in this sort of behavior, but her position as a national leader, the wartime circumstances, the opposition to the trip from the White House, and the character of the regime she has chosen to approach make her behavior particularly inappropriate.
The Logan Act makes it a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to three years for any American, "without authority of the United States," to communicate with a foreign government in an effort to influence that government's behavior on any "disputes or controversies with the United States."The U.S. is in the midst of two wars authorized by Congress. For Ms. Pelosi to flaunt the Constitution in these circumstances is not only shortsighted; it may well be a felony, as the Logan Act has been part of our criminal law for more than two centuries. Perhaps it is time to enforce the law."
Now the WSJ. I guess that sweeps it, we have a consensus - Pelosi belongs in jail.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 3:42 PM
There are, as John Edwards keeps insisting, two Americas. They just don't happen to be the two he keeps yapping about -- the rich and the poor, the haves and the have-nots. Instead, there are the liberals and the conservatives. The left regards America as a big bully that's out to oppress the rest of the world. Those on the right think America is the last great hope of mankind. The fact that liberals have to lie about this country should convince any objective observer as to who's telling the truth. The left, for example, insists that we invaded Iraq for its oil. And, yet, even after all this time, not only have we not confiscated their oil fields, we haven't even used Iraqi oil revenue to finance, as I think we should, that country's reconstruction.
More points about Liberal lying. Maybe the momentum for truth is finally emerging. all the Dem lies from the last election have been revealed for those with eyes open.
Ignorant coward - you attempt at humor is disgusting.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 3:38 PM
You are right, William, that I would not when alive have considered Jindal a true Southerner. Of course not, I would have said. He's a darky. (SWISSSSH-CRACK!) Ow! I mean. "not a Caucasian." However, since death, I have been the, uh, recipient (SWISSSSH-CRACK!) Ow! The GRATEFUL recipient of some needed moral lessons. His ethnic background should have nothing to do with his fitness for office. You will probably be surprised when I tell you that if I were alive, I would... well... (SWISSSSH-CRACK!) Ow! I would CERTAINLY support his candidacy, him being conservative and for the wealthy and all. Breaux, on the other hand, is a Democrat who will vote for things like (mincing tone) 'fairness' and 'equality' and 'social services.' Not to mention taking the 'environmental crisis' seriously. (SWISSSSH-CRACK!) Ow! I mean, both candidates have defined ideas upon which they should be compared, rather than on racial grounds.
Painfully yours,
Condemned Soul #46378947789056 (the former 'Jefferson Davis')
Posted by: Jefferson Davis | April 6, 2007 3:31 PM
'Because they are not Speaker of the House. duh.'
duh indeed. like that has to do with it. if it were denmy hastert, see, it'd be fine.
Posted by: most irrelevant point of the day | April 6, 2007 3:27 PM
ASHINGTON -- Three Republican congressmen who parted with President Bush by meeting with Syrian leaders said Wednesday it is important to maintain a dialogue with a country the White House says sponsors terrorism.
"I don't care what the administration says on this. You've got to do what you think is in the best interest of your country," said Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va. "I want us to be successful in Iraq. I want us to clamp down on Hezbollah."
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:26 PM
"See, the truth is emerging."
To Zouk, the truth is an opinion column that agrees with him.
William, I think Jefferson Davis would have considered Breaux to be a Louisiana citizen. And he would have considered Bobby Jindal to be a slave.
Posted by: Blarg | April 6, 2007 3:22 PM
"Because they are not Speaker"
So, it's okay for them to practice the same diplomacy, even though they are members of the Legislative Branch?
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:20 PM
Anybody remember when the Navy fliers were being held by Syria and Ron Reagan couldn't get them released?
Wasn't it somebody outside the Executive Branch who, to the consternation of that Branch, practiced actual diplomacy and got them released at no cost to the U. S.?
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:18 PM
Because they are not Speaker of the House. duh.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 3:17 PM
To Zouk and Boy Wonder - Please explain why all of the Republican Congressmen who immediately preceded or accompanied Pelosi are not included in your castigations.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:15 PM
"I have an idea. Let's consider whom Jefferson Davis, father of the South, would consider the true LA citizen."
Unless you live in Louisiana: It's none of your business!
Keep your ideas where they belong, up North.
Posted by: | April 6, 2007 3:11 PM
Now Pelosi is trying to pretend she helped broker the release of the British sailors.
Regardless of what she thinks of the president, he was reelected in 2004 to be the leader and "spokesman" of the United States.
So its the perogative of HIS administration to formulate and conduct foreign policy, and not Pelosi.
She is undercutting and undermining the president by fraternizing with our enemies and opening up back channel negotiations.
If I were Bush I would teach her a real lesson.
Revoke her passport while she's in Syria and make here stay there for a few weeks.
Then, when she issues a public apology for her actions on TV, let her come back.
Humiliate her.
And if she tries to come back without a passport, have her handcuffed on charges of illegal entry the moment she sets foot on the Tarmac.
Posted by: William | April 6, 2007 3:10 PM
"Nevertheless, I say to you, that we are, have been, and continue to be victorious. Islamic forces are focused on Iraq and Afghanistan, and the fact that these lunatics are spending there own blood and treasure there, means that they cannot spend that capital attacking us here."
See, the truth is emerging.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 6, 2007 3:03 PM
Even the USA today thinks general pelosi is a fool:
"But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi crossed a line this week by visiting Syria, where she met with President Bashar Assad. She violated a long-held understanding that the United States should speak with one official voice abroad -- even if the country is deeply divide
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