Lieberman is a model senator and what others should look to for advice and leadership

Lieberman is a model senator and what others should look to for advice and leadership

Lieberman is a model senator and what others should look to for advice and leadership

Joe Lieberman is the only one I would vote for ,fot President.The Dem have a bunch of poer hungry nuts running and Rep same.

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The Democrats who are upset about Lieberman's activities should have been smart enough to figure out what he was going to do when they failed to help the Democrats of Connecticut get rid of him last fall. Since they helped elect him (over the real Democratic candidate), they deserve this mooning they're getting from him.

The Democratic Party should kick Lieberman out, just on principle alone. The Democrats are so afraid of everything and in the process are hurting many Americans who are desperate for an end to the radical rightwing industrial warmongering Republicans. The fact is, Lieberman is absolutely above all else, a Zionist, first, foremost...he's selling out his country as we speak for Israel. His is an Israeli citizen as well as an American citizen, a citizen, not, a patriot. All America is to this Quisling is a useful tool to be used for his personal ambitions, only !!!
He's another cowardly chickenhawk warmonger and he is up to his scrawny neck in our blood, Iraqi blood and Lebanese blood.
Kick him out of the Democratic Party now!

The Democratic Party should kick Lieberman out, just on principle alone. The Democrats are so afraid of everything and in the process are hurting many Americans who are desperate for an end to the radical rightwing industrial warmongering Republicans. The fact is, Lieberman is absolutely above all else, a Zionist, first, foremost...he's selling out his country as we speak for Israel. His is an Israeli citizen as well as an American citizen, a citizen, not, a patriot. All America is to this Quisling is a useful tool to be used for his personal ambitions, only !!!
He's another cowardly chickenhawk warmonger and he is up to his scrawny neck in our blood, Iraqi blood and Lebanese blood.
Kick him out of the Democratic Party now!

Reason, what the **** is your problem? You arn't supposed to comment on the topic, and you **** sure arn't supposed to include any facts in what you talk about. What you are supposed to do is say what you want to happen, and then pretend to have thought about things before predicting what you want to happen actually will happen.

If you are going to insist on actually including facts and analysis in what you say, I probably should do so too.

I am glad to see Collins leads, similar to Coleman's lead. Both of those will tighten, but at least the R doesn't begin in the toilet, as with PA in 2006. I agree with what you say about LA, although R's still need a horse in the race.

I have seen other polling from NH that wasn't as bad for Sununu as the one you quote, and had hoped that the one you quote was an outlier (sp). All in all considering where Bush is, I dont think the R's are in that bad of shape on the Senate side.

A sad day in America when

$$$$$$= votes

All Power back to the people.

Razorback, if the election in Maine were held today, Collins is ahead of Allen 57%-32%. Coleman is in good shape for re-election as well. Gordon Smith in Oregon may be in for a dogfight. He can thank his stars that rep. Defazio isn't running, who is a pro-gun centrist. He leads Smith in polling 42%-38%. Not a sure in, but it shows Smith could be beaten. But, dems. first need a candidate. May be tough to find, considering Smith has a 54% popularity rating in Oregon and is independently wealthy, so he could write checks if need be to win. Smith also has a great relationship with his senate colleague, Sen. Wyden. The bi-partisan friendship helps the state of Oregon, both senators will tell you, and as long as they support one another it will be tough to oust either of them. Will Wyden play party politics over friendship and endorse someone to beat Smith, or will he play it safe for Oregon and himself and not get involved? Another issue for Smith will be a primary. Club For Growth is funding anti-tax activist Bill Sizemore to run a primary against Smith, just as they did against Spector in 04 and against Chafee in 06. So, Smith will likely have to face a primary and tough general to win out. Finally, Sununu in NH could be in trouble. Shaheen tops him in polling 44%-34%. That by no means assures his defeat, but he could certainly be beaten. Last time %'s were checked that I saw, Sununu has a 47% approval rating. His partner Judd's rating is higher, but Sununu is the one up for re-election. He's in the most trouble of the 4, in my estimation. Colordo will be a very tough race for both parties, whoever the nominee's as Allard is retiring.

Of D's, Liendrieu is done for. There are not enough D's in La. to re-elect her, she's gone. Either Sec. of State Dardenne or US rep. Baker will beat her. If gov. Rounds runs against Johnson in SD, it will be a very tough race the R's could win. If not, Johnson likely keeps the seat. Max Baucus in Montana could serve as a pick-up for R's this year, especially if US rep. Rehberg gets into the race. Polling data suggests that John Kerry is vulnerable in Mass. I seriously doubt this materializes, and must have been put out by Conservative's R Us or something. Anyone know of a legite candidate in Mass. that could take advantage of this if Kerry is vulnerable. It's 56%-38%, Kerry vs. a generic candidate, no name was presented in the poll. Could be something to keep an eye on, at least for now.

Hagel in Nebraska and Smith in Oregon will be highlighted primaries. Smith should win his fairly handily, though. Hagel, who knows?

I want to vomit when I think of how Hillary and her ilk (yes, Obama too) gave Lamont the cold shoulder after he beat Lieberman. These people would sell their own grandmother to curry favor with power no matter the political party. Their allegiance to Lieberman is despicable considering his single-minded favor of war and its terrible consequences (I wonder Joe if you would go and fight....so easy to look like a tough guy as you sit well-ensconced in Washington). That this man considers himself a person of god is almost as humorous as watching those dems who did not fully support Lamont now sit with egg on their faces. Then again it doesn't matter to them in the first place.....money talks and we, apparently, walk!

He's already a Repub. Kick his rear end out of the caucus and take his chair away from him in committee. The Dems will have the majority in '08 anyway, and he isn't a Dem and hasn't been for a long time.

Thank you Larry. Lieberman only won becasue the right was trying to send messages or stop messages from being sent. He was voted in by republicans. I just hope he hangs on to the D until after teh next senate election.

As a CT resident, rest assured Lieberman will not win another election in this state. He cant run as a Democrat. He cant win as a republican. Not in CT anyway..

Joe Lieberman is a bagman for AIPAC and an apologist for the Neo-con game that has been run on America for the past 6 years. Being an Independent pre-supposes the existence of a brain or a soul. Lieberman has neither. He sold both a long time ago.

democrat that is :)

Sorry

Or maybe the republican mandant will be, "Bush is really a republican." :)

Anything to deflect the blame. They want all the accolates and money, but not the blame. What a joke. Like I said earlier, it would be funny if so many people wern't dying. It would be funny if OUR government wasn't getting gutted by these facists

Much respect formerrepublican. It's funny. I was asking conservative 's 2 years ago. "How is bush a conservative?" What about him is conservative? He wants everyone to live a sheltered ignorant life. Is the the defination of conservatism now? War and live a sheltered life? No thank you. Also, this administration is the BIGGEST ever. So much for the republican principle of small governmnet. Let me say that again. THIS IS THE BIGGEST GOVERMENT EVER. I guess now the repubs will say it is their mandate to shirk the gov after they destroyed it. Not good not good at all. I hope the people on the right wake-up one day and see not only what they are doing to the country, but the world

I'm sorry, but Lieberman is not a Democrat. He says so himself.

He caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate, but his registration is not Democrat. No one calls Bernie Sanders a Democrat, so why insist on doing it with Lieberman? He quit the party, so let him go.

Why the media can't figure that out is beyond me.

Many trolls on this site and quess what, they all love Joe Lie-berman. It just makes you wonder how so many people could be so screwed up in the head. As part of the 28% that support the theocratic fascist government of the bush crime family, they are unable to have any critical thinking skills. I am so glad my wife and I woke up when the Bush crime family just started stealing elections. So you Kook Aid drinking RepubliCONs keep it up because there will NEVER be another George Bush type President. History will judge this president and his supporters as the WORST administration in the history of America.

With crimes, lying, cheating, corruption and stealing, this administration has had criminals running the following: Dept. of Defense, Education, Justice, Interior, Homeland insecurity, Veterans affairs, Health and human services, Housing and Urban development, CIA, State Department, Commerce, Environmental "protection" agency.

Never has there been so many crooks and incompetent people as seen in the bush crime family. To be a current RepubliCON you have to put the party before your country and then become unAmerican in all respects.

I think Joe Lieberman killed Jerry Falwell to try to get sympathy for Dick Cheney.

Arrest them all for treason rufus.

I think Lieberman had a choice. On one hand he had his social issues, (which it look slike he considereds "democrat" issues. On the other hand, the only reason he is still in politics is because the right supported and voted for him in his last election.

Lieberman is a sell-out. Both to his party and his country. He is party of the YALE plan, much like Kerry/ Hilary/ Dean / and the bushes.

Why is it that all the democrats in high positions have connections to the right. The above all went to yale with bush. All the above convienantly said things at the wrong time of elections. All of the yale dems are a little to passive against the right. That's because Kerry/Lieberman/Dean/HRC are all republicans in sheeps clothes. They are spies planted by the right.

Don't trust the YALe plan

Lieberman is one of those alleged 'moderates' who manages to come down on the wrong side of every issue. The problem with the label 'moderate' is it doesn't really mean anything. It might mean someone who's willing to work together to find common ground on a variety of issues, or it might be an irrational fool like Senator Lieberman who takes extreme positions on various subjects that aren't always consistent with their party's position. In other words, supporting the surge isn't a 'moderate' position at all. It is an extreme position; the fact that Lieberman 'balances' this position with liberalism on social issues doesn't make him moderate it makes him schizophrenic.

What a sellout this man is. I cannot believe how he "rubber-stamps" everything that Bush says or does. Why doesn't he just declare himself to be a republican. He is most certainly not an independent. Here's hoping for your defeat in your next election bid, Joe.

Mark in Austin has it right. I personally feel there is a need for moderates in both parties to maintain a balance and inject diverse views. I don't want Republican and Democratic Parties that are "ethnically" pure. I want a mix. I always critized the Republicans for trying to "ethnically" cleanse their party and purge all of the moderates. I feel the same way about the Ds. Viva la differance.

I hear you lonesomerobot. Great points. Also, the right thinks there movement is of God. Very sad. "Render to Ceaser" is their mantra. Not knowing that they are misquoting Jesus. Jesus was getting tricked by the equvilant to tax men ( republicans). They asked if THEY should pay taxes to Ceaser. Jesus basically said, " Give to ceaser what is his and Give GOd what is HIS." The meaning of the statement is that money is a joke, a means not a end, and their souls were his. The republican movement has become the tax men in this senerio. They have become what Jesus was against.

I started watching O'Reilly out of shear fear. How can you reason with O'REilly/Rush/Coulter/Hannity? At least now MOST people veiw the above for what they are, propogandists and facists who would do or say anything for money.

It would be funny if so many people around the world wern't dying. It would be funny if our government was not getting SABATOGED by treasonous sell-outs.

TampaGuy,
Ask me a question that makes sense and i'll be happy to think about it and reply. In all seriousness, i am not sure what you mean by "Why do you side with the executioner?"

yesterday, while driving from florida to tennessee, i got to listen to a lot of right wing talk radio - ingraham, limbaugh, hannity, beck, savage... - lucky me.

what struck me, as a post-libertarian not involved in the talking points of either party, is what a closed loop that bunch are. their stance is pretty much 'conservatives are always right and therefore we refuse to listen to outside opinions.' even when the opinions made sense.

for instance, one guy got on the ingraham show and said conservatives should not just be against things because liberals are for them... and she hung up on him.

this is indicative of how the republican party has dealt with dissent for the last 12 years - and the main reason why it is a total waste of time for any non-republican to try and reach across the aisle. most republicans are already convinced their ideology is superior - if not perfect - and any ideas that come from non-conservatives are bad.

it amounts to almost cult-like thinking and quite frankly is almost funny to witness. these people have tied themselves to the mast of a sinking ship, and believe their own mythology. good riddance to them. they have lowered the discourse in this country and destroyed conservatism in the process.

Anybody what to elaborate on the above. I don't have time. I'm working. :)

Prescott Bush. Joe Kennedy. The new founding fathers of american politics. Great men. Great men, right razor

Apparently the Post is as party challenged as CNN and FOX. Lieberman is an INDEPENDENT (I-Conn), not a Democrat. Sad!!! And they wonder why circulation is tanking! DO SOME INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING FOR A CHANGE! Or at least some vetting of the crap that you do print!

Oh look it's hogbutt -- the guy who's so anxious to deny americans their constitutional rights and freedoms. Just another republican fascist. Of course fascism was financially supported by the american robber barons of yesteerday, so why not today?

Leiberman wouldn't be kissing Bush in public if he weren't in bed with him.

Sandy says:

"Lieberman has a deal going w/Bush where Joe, the man, comes out A-OK at the end of his Government-Senate career!!"

And I am sure you can prove that "deal" right? That isn't just another nutty conspiracy theory is it?

Isn't it amazing how liberals demand proof when a terrorist gets caught red handed (Jose Padilla), but then spout off nutty theories with no proof at all?

kOZ rAZOR ZOUK. wHAT'S the differance? They are all right wing clones sharing the same brian anyway. "A rose by any other name."

Let's just call them dittoheads. Why even give them justification by mentioning their tag name. They probably giggle like schoolgirls whenever someone mentions their name. I'm going to continue to make them all look like the fools and lap dogs they are. :) In case their is any independant thinkers out they. We gotta let the people know that these right wingers are nothing but propogandists and facsits, whose only gaol is divide and conquer by sabatoge

Lieberman has a deal going w/Bush where Joe, the man, comes out A-OK at the end of his Government-Senate career!! He is the ultimate broker for Joe & Co. Why else would he be so Bushie??? I hope Bush renigs on the deal when the time comes!!!

rufus, it's actually koz. you can always tell because he uses different names but rants in exactly the same way. although he may be the same person as razor, becuase they are ideological twins.

I thought Lamont was the Democrat and Lieberman was an independent. But if he wants to be a republican, and all the democrats think he is a republican, why doesn't he just be a republican. Oh, its not in his freethinking self interest to tell the truth. That's what makes it courageous. Of course, its been a long time since anyone called him courageous.

Hey Dave! You need to ask yourself a fundamental question and not stop until you find an answer. Are you ready? Here it is:
"Why do you side with the executioner?"

The above rufus1133 post is not me. It is the troll razor. The only way he can possibly combat my words is to hijack my tag line. Then mock what he says I say. What a scitzo.

This Senator speakes with at least two or more tonques. He should have no creditiblity, but he was elected by a majority of dummies.
W.

To the commenters saying that the Democrats should have nominated Lieberman in '06 if they wanted his loyalty, I say rubbish. It's not loyalty if you have to buy it. Are you suggesting that every candidate who loses a primary should switch parties? People seem to forget that Lieberman had the full support of the Democratic establishment in the primary, with everyone including Bill Clinton going to Connecticut to campaign for him. But when the voters selcted Lamont, the Party supported its nominee.

So Lieberman's betrayed because the Democratic party supported its own nominee in the general election? Please. I'm sure he's much more comfortable with the Republicans, who threw their own duly elected nominee in Connecticut under the bus just to weaken the Dems. Well, they lost the Senate anyway, and are poised to suffer more losses in '08. The Dems need to make nice with Lieberman now, but when they have a bigger majority in '08 I think he might find it a little difficult getting his calls returned.

Lieberman's loyalty was on full display in 2000. By running for relction to the Senate and VP at the same time, he ensured that winning the VP slot meant that the Republican governor would get to name his replacement in the Senate, turning his seat over to the other party. As one who does local political work, I would never forgive a candidate who would throw away the efforts of the thousands of people it takes to win a Senatorial election, just so he can run risk free. He showed no loyalty to the party at all.

There are plenty of Democrats who work with Republicans on a variety of issues, and even take stances that are closer to Republican policies than Democratic ones. Lieberman went way beyond that. When the Democrats were finally getting some traction in their opposition to the war, despite every effort by the White House to question their patriotism and portray them as betraying the troops, Lieberman consistently declared that he not only supported Bush, but that the Demnocrats were harming the war effort by criticizing the President. He carried Bush's water, undermined his own party at a crucial time, and on top of that portrayed himself as the only man of principle in the Senate. What a sanctimonious prick.

As for all of those worshipping at the altar of bipartisanship, it's unfortunate that the Republicans created the situation we have today. By running Congress with such a heavy hand, they put Dems in the position where very Republican Senator has to be targeted in order to gain control of the Congress and restore some oversight to this runaway administration. I have no problem with Collins, just like I had no problem with Chaffee. Unfortunately, the R next to their name makes them targets. And I didn't see too many of these courageous moderate Republicans sticking their necks out until it was obvious thatr Bush was a liability. Then all of a sudden they're the conscience of the Senate. If people like Chaffee hadn't been defeated, we still wouldn't know about half of the stuff that's coming to light under Democratic oversight.

As a Connecticut Democrat, please let me remind you that Lieberman is no Democrat...nor is he a Republican. There are two other CT "Democrats" who should be cut off by CT voters: Chris Dodd and John Larson. Neither one has fresh ideas or opinions. As poverty grows year by year in his district, Larson sits by and waits for photo ops. Dodd has watched the middle class disappear in CT and has done nothing but nod his greying head to any and all ideas put forth by others in the senate. 2008 MUST be the year of change in CT.......add our Republican Governor (Queen) to the list. Wake up, Ct voters!!

really, should anyone be surprised? Leiberman departed the Democratic Party long ago.Bi-partisan, Mr.Lie-berman, really? Joe is partial to one person only, himself.

Why do they say he is a "Democrat"? Last time I looked he ran as an Independent, which means he is independent from the Democrats and dependent on the Repukins to keep him afloat. Hopefully, this guy will burn out like Bush and Mccain. In the meantime he should just get a room with Mccain and Susan. He certainly must make all those proud who voted for him. Kind of makes you feel tingly all over, like you have the flu or something. Sue F

A republican talks about 'lies'. LOL. Your party has zero credibility. zero.

An open letter to Gonzales.
Gonzales' Harvard Law classmates take out an ad in the Washington Post today. They write, "Your country and your President are in dire need of an attorney who will do the tough job of providing independent counsel, especially when the advice runs counter to political expediency. Now more than ever, our country needs a President, and an Attorney General, who remember the apt observation attributed to Benjamin Franklin: 'Those who give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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*, that mostly depends on how many lies you tell.

hey razorback, get your unemployment check yet? it's a tough life, typing furiously all day long in your mom's basemnt. you gonna post every 4 minutes again today?

what a super patriot!

Davis charged that the White House sought to remove an extensive discussion of recent findings by the Justice Department's inspector general of FBI abuses in the uses of so-called "national security letters" to obtain personal data on U.S. citizens without a court order. He also charged that the White House counsel's office wanted to strike language stating that the panel planned to investigate complaints from civil liberties groups that the Justice Department had improperly used a "material witness statute" to lock up terror suspects for lengthy periods of time without charging them with any crimes.
And the reason for striking the passage about the "material witness statute"?

Chairman Carol E. Dinkins told board members March 29 that the White House counsel's office had asked to delete the passage, fearing the revelation might inflame the ongoing political controversy over the administration's dismissal of nine U.S. attorneys.

Impeach LieberBush!

Lieberman not a D, CC. What planet do you live on?

Oh, the Beltway Bubble. Never mind. Where Fox is thought of as a 'news channel.'

Lieberman is not a Democrat!

Bo234 says:

"Uh, Lieberman is not a Democrat anymore."

Duh, Lieberman is a committee chairman in the majority Demotractic U.S. Senate.

http://www.senate.gov/~govt-aff/

Bo234, maybe you should write Harry Ried and tell him what you know.

"In the French West Indies, doing Zouk-love, you must be unafraid to lock bodies with a stranger."

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Both times, the Republicans favoring withdrawal had the right idea. In neither case was our intervention justified, and nothing at stake in Lebanon or Somalia was worth the cost in American lives.

They also favored an outcome short of victory in the Kosovo war of 1999, when the GOP-controlled House voted down a resolution supporting the president's air campaign. Most House Republicans also supported a measure calling for the withdrawal of American troops from the Balkans.

Back then, House Republican Leader Tom DeLay said, "The bombing was a mistake," and urged Clinton to "admit it, and come to some sort of negotiated end." Can you guess the title of DeLay's new book? "No Retreat, No Surrender."

The truth is, Republican presidents are not known for staying the course in the face of adversity. Dwight Eisenhower ran on a promise to end the Korean war, which he did -- on terms that allowed the Communist aggressors to remain in power in the North. Richard Nixon negotiated a peace agreement with the North Vietnamese government, which provided for a U.S. pullout. Gerald Ford presided over the fall of Saigon and the final, humiliating American evacuation.

In those instances, the presidents came to grips with the unpleasant truth that sometimes, you can't achieve the desired outcome without an excessive sacrifice, if at all. But when it comes to Iraq, Republicans insist we should be ready to pay any price in pursuit of a 'victory' that has eluded us for so long. In their view, weighing the costs against the benefits, or acknowledging that we don't have a formula for success, is tantamount to appeasement.

What Republicans stood for in the past was a sober realism about the limits of our power and our good intentions. That spirit is absent today. They act as though slogans are a substitute for strategy. What they claim as steadfast resolve looks more like blind obstinacy.

We all know that when it comes to war, Republicans are strong and resolute, while Democrats are weak and craven. We know because Republicans tell us so.

Those have been the constant GOP themes in the congressional debate over the Iraq war. House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio accused Democrats who want to mandate withdrawal by a certain date of proposing "a timetable for American surrender." They were cheering for "defeat," charged Arizona Sen. John McCain. President Bush vowed that unlike his partisan opponents, he would not "cut and run."

During the recent Republican presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan Library, Rudy Giuliani cited the 40th president as a model of fortitude in dealing with enemies. Among "the things that Ronald Reagan taught us," he declared, is that "we should never retreat in the face of terrorism."

No one present was impolite enough to mention that far from spurning retreat in the face of terrorism, the Gipper embraced it. After the 1983 terrorist bombing in Beirut, which killed 241 American military personnel, he recognized the futility of our presence in Lebanon and pulled out.

Boehner portrays himself and his colleagues as brave patriots who would never accept anything less than victory in war. But in 1993, when things got tough in Somalia, he voted for withdrawal. John McCain likewise favored "defeat" in that conflict. He opposed a timetable for withdrawal not because he wanted U.S. forces to stay but because it would take too long. Our soldiers, he insisted, should leave "as rapidly and safely as possible." Or, you could say, cut and run.

"Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) is never going to win any popularity contests among his party's liberal base..." Uh, Lieberman is not a Democrat anymore.

Why does the Beltway Media call any traitorous dem 'bipartisan'? He's exactly the opposite.

Wolfowitz Responds: Blames Girlfriend For Forcing Him To Grant Her Salary Increase

I don't support Sen. Lieberman's position on the Iraq war but I am glad he is helping Sen. Collins. I wish the Democrats would go after the rabid republicans and not the moderate ones. Sen. Collins saved Bill Clinton's behind by not voting to impeach him.

America's standing in the world has taken a nosedive since the world embraced us after 9/11. According to a recent poll conducted by the Program on International Policy Attitudes, 67% of the people surveyed across 25 countries disapprove of the U.S. handling of Guantanamo detainees. The Program Director explained: "The thing that comes up repeatedly is not just anger about Iraq. The common theme is hypocrisy. The reaction tends to be - You were a champion of a certain set of rules. Now you are breaking your own rules."

The Secretary of Defense recognized this problem last month when he acknowledged that he had recommended closing Guantanamo because "there is a taint about it."

America at its best is a beacon for human rights and human liberty, and that's how we like to see ourselves. But much of the world sees us in a very different way when we fail to live up to the standards we profess. For us, the symbol of American values is the Statue of Liberty. For much of the world, it is that horrific photograph of a hooded prisoner at Abu Ghraib, standing on a box, strung up with wires.

' it always disgusts me how the extreme lefties consistently line up against America's one true ally (and only real democracy, btw) we have in the middle east.'

it always disgusts me when the far right toadies call theocracy the only true 'democracy'. but they don't know what the word even means.

Why doesn't this man just quit and become a Republican. I know why, because he wants to be reelected the next time and he knows that if he is a Republican he will be killing his chances. He also knows that the next administration is going to be Democratic and if he wants any kind of a government job, he better stick with the Dems. I say the Democrats should repudiate him and kick him off any committee he is on.

It's really too bad that Connecticut can't recall the idiot. If the election were held today, Lamont would win by a landslide. LIEberman lied to his constituents and has gone back on practically everything he said in the recent election.

The man is a snake.

in re: Mitt Romney's "attractiveness" -

i seem to remember some oohing and aahing by chris matthews about bush's, ah, "little george," back when he landed on the aircraft carrier in his flight suit. unfortunately, however, he bombed when it came to the "talent" portion of the competition, and he was less than believable when he named "world peace" as one of his goals.

let's get the man-crushes out of serious political discussions, please. like dubya, romney is about as substantial an intellectual talent as vanessa williams.

"HOT OR NOT? A reliable G.O.P. source sends in this e-mail from 'a colleague . . . in Iowa' who 'just went to see Mitt Romney speak. This is from her, and a piece of campaign literature she picked up at the event:

"His promotional flyer says, 'In this media-driven age, Romney begins with a decisive advantage. First, he has sensational good looks. People magazine named him one of the 50 most beautiful people in America. Standing 6 feet, 2 inches tall, Romney has jet-black hair, graying naturally at the temples. Women -- who will play a critical role in this coming election -- have a word for him: hot.'"

It's no secret that many Republicans are dissatisfied with their party's presidential choices. That is fueling all the Fred Thompson chatter and otherwise contributing to a sense that the field is inadequate, that Rudy, Romney and McCain are failing to satisfy some deep longing for a Reagan-style conservative who hasn't been married three times, changed his position on abortion or been saddled with an unpopular war.

GOP Field Shuns Immigration
Bipartisan plan in danger as McCain pulls away, Romney shifts his stance and Giuliani stays quiet.

McClatchy: "U.S. Embassy employees in Iraq are growing increasingly angry over what they say are inadequate security precautions in the heavily fortified Green Zone, where recent mortar and rocket attacks have claimed the lives of six people, including two U.S. citizens."

Dionysis said: "no more acquiescing to this Israeli-firster."

What a shock, veiled antisemitism from the liberal wing of the Democrat party. Whether it's Jesse Jackson and Hymietown, or Jim Moran and his "Jewish leaders made us invade Iraq" garbage, it always disgusts me how the extreme lefties consistently line up against America's one true ally (and only real democracy, btw) we have in the middle east.

The LAT fronts a look at the Internet-based reality series Hometown Baghdad. "I hope the show gets a lot more attention," Adel, who is characterized as the "breakout star" of the show, said. "But not here. In Iraq you can get killed for the stupidest of reasons."

The LAT off-leads, the NYT fronts, and everyone else mentions the World Bank committee has concluded that Paul Wolfowitz broke ethics and governance rules when he arranged a promotion and raise package for his companion, Shaha Ali Riza. The report, which was publicly released last night, also says Wolfowitz tried to hide the package from bank officials.

We in Maine are wondering what happened to Susan Collins' solemn promise to drop out/retire after two terms of office. The clock ran out, what's up, Susie? You must be liking life inside the Beltway...

Tom Allen is very popular with people up here. It'll be a tough race as many Dems voted for SC in her last election.

But again - why are ye running, Susan, when you said you'd be gone after two terms. Ohhhhhh liar liar pants afire.

The Washington Post leads with news that Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty became the fourth senior Justice Department official to resign since the scandal over the fired U.S. attorneys blew up earlier this year.

now zouk steals rufus' name. where are the Post's standards? seriously, everyone who's a regular here can tell when he does this... why do you allow it, CC? Don't you ever check your server logs? This troll is on here every day, all day long... the biggest deadbeat I have ever seen -- and you allow hiim to disrupt the blog with his childish drool. Where is your webmaster?

I am fine with Lieberman supporting Israel -- but not with putting their interests before ours. I mean, who does he think he works for?

What are these references to "(D-Conn)" and "bipartisan"? Anybody but a Post columnist would know that Lieberman is not a Democrat anymore. He is the "Party of Joe" candidate- a vain, pompous and clueless egomaniac and Bush War Of Choice enabler. But I especially like the way Cillizza doesn't even know that he's not a Democrat. This is another example of pathetic journalism at the Post.

As you can see by all my posts, I don't have a life whatsoever. Seriously, don't listen to people like me, I'm pissed off at the world for no reason. That's why I can't make a simple, concise point and then go away.

I'm loving it.

What did the democrat party think Joe Lieberman would do for them after they backed Lamont? How could any democrat blame the guy?

Rich, funny and the correct thing for Lieberman to do. I even took down the last of my "Sore/Loserman" lawn ornaments from 2000.

What to add to the comments? Only that it is to be hoped that in 2008, enough Democrats will pick up seats to render the disgusting DINO Leiberman superfluous; no more acquiescing to this Israeli-firster.

Is there anyone more pathetic than Lieberman? I mean other than McCain and the Bush administration, of course.

When you lose the democratic nomination you lose a "popularity contest" to more than your "liberal base".

Joe's meddling in Maine's affairs will likely backfire for Susan Collins.

There is an entire industry made up of uncivil, right wing bullies who turn the discourse into a toxic swill, and make a huge profit at it. The Republican Party and its wealthy benefactors have made a fetish of rancid incivility toward the so-called "liberal media" for decades.

Administration hit by second resignation.
"The White House was hit by two sudden resignations late Monday when Paul McNulty, a top Justice Department official, and Lanny Davis, the only Democratic member of the president's civil liberties watchdog board, announced they were stepping down. Both resignations are likely to fuel allegations of White House political meddling in law enforcement and national security issues."

Davis's frustration reached a peak last month when White House lawyers engaged in what he described in his letter as "substantial" edits of the board's annual report to Congress. [...]

When Davis protested the attempted deletions, he said the board was told that the White House lawyers feared that because the material witness law was used by U.S. attorneys, a new probe of that issue would become a part of the larger controversy over the firing of U.s. attorneys. "I found this reason to be inappropriate-and emblematic of the sincere view, with which I strongly disagreed, of at least some administration officials and a majority of the Board that the Board was wholly part of the White House staff and political structure, rather than an independent oversight entity," Davis wrote in his letter.

Well, after just reading this post this morning, I for one am VERY happy to see more bipartisan events, and less party identity. Does anyone deny that the polarization and poisoning of the electoral process is directly attributable to the growing roles the parties play? Couldn't we, as Americans first, get more done if we put aside the extremist views and concentrate on areas where everyone agrees?

Because my job demands it, I've seen both Lieberman and Collins do their thing on Homeland Sec committee. This should be a model that everyone follows; they don't do the Ted Kennedy or Trent Lott bit, sniping at witnesses just to make a political point, using questions created by political hacks - they just ask questions along the lines of "What do you need to protect the country", and then amend the bills to make it happen.

God bless both of them.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Foreclosures continue to trouble real estate markets nationwide, with filings in April up 65 percent from a year earlier, according to a report released Tuesday.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A World Bank committee found bank President Paul Wolfowitz violated ethics rules in his handling of a promotion and generous pay rise for his girlfriend and that his involvement represented a conflict of interest.

"Mr. Wolfowitz's contract requiring that he adhere to the Code of Conduct for board officials and that he avoid any conflict of interest, real or apparent, were violated," the panel said of Wolfowitz's handling of a pay and promotion deal for World Bank Middle East expert Shaha Riza in 2005.

"The salary increase Ms. Riza received at Mr. Wolfowitz's direction was in excess of the range established by Rule 6.01," the panel said.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The No. 2 official at the Justice Department, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, submitted his resignation to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, the Justice Department announced Monday.

McNulty's resignation comes amid the controversy over the department's firing of eight U.S. attorneys last year.

He was one of the key figures in meetings and discussions about the shakeup, and investigators from the House and Senate Judiciary committees grilled him for more than eight hours in April.

http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/96535n2426g5r807/fulltext.pdf

Good article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists about the death of habeas corpus for US citizens.

'razorback' and 'zouk' are trolls and beggars who have utterly no life except to post drivel on this blog, alll day long, every day. this is what the republican party is all about day -- leeches, parasites, welfare queens and chickenhawks.

What is this Lieberman [D] all about, CC? He's not a dem at all -- he's a far right republican wh*re. Of course he's raising money for R's -- they elected him. When will the DC establishment get over this game of calling him a dem--It's a freaking joke.

It looks like Democrats could use this to their campaigning advantage because Lieberman is loathed among the general Democratics out there. They should bring in Ned Lamont for some sort of counter-event.

I have voted democrat for 20 years, no exceptions. I think bush's policies are insane. I also think joe is correct. I am a pro-war democrat. What about diversity and bipartisanship - democrats claim they want this, but in reality they only want mindless yes-men. If you push joe away, you'll make another republican. Does that may you happy? That is the same kind of divide and conquer view that bush uses to divide america. Democrats - please get back to your ideals of diversity of opinion that you claim to support. welcome joe back to the party.

Lieberman is the only rat to ever jump onboard a sinking ship!

Lieberman cares about two things, Lieberman and Israel. Some people think this is good. I don't. I would prefere a Senator that cares more about the interests of his constituents and the United States.

What we need to do in the 08 elections is start handing over Senate seats to real Independent party candidates (Libertarian, Green, etc.). That would scare the living crap out of both the left and the right. It might even make them start doing what is best for this country.

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."
- Edward R. Murrow

"Politicians are a lot like diapers. They should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons."
Robin Williams, Man of the Year

Last I heard Lieberman is an independent. Is
Mr. Cilliza being paid to call him a democrat?

Yeah, Dave, executives getting raises while laying people off makes a whole lot of sense.

Collins said in 1994 that she would not run for a 3rd term. Now she is running for a 3rd term. What a liar. Since Joe LIEberman is one of the biggest liars in American political history, it should come as no surprise that liars supports liars.

We can wish that Lieberman was the exception. Most state, federal, and local politicians - of all parties -are motivated by their personal financial interest and/or inflated egos. In San Diego, we have to include the high level bureaucrats who go in and out the government-to-business-to-government revolving door of opportunity to line their pockets while sucking the taxpayers dry, but letting the infrastructure deteriorate to third-world quality.

timemachinist,
So you are ticked at Lieberman because he is pro-business? "Lieberman helped to obscure the financial workings of companies paying CEOs outrageous sums even as they bleed jobs, underfund pensions and dodge taxes." Who exactly would read about the financial workings of companies? I'm a finance major heavily investing in the stock market and i don't read that stuff. If the employment level weren't at such a low level, i might be worried about a CEO that bleeds jobs. But probably not as that is healthy capitalism. How much is somebody worth that can keep a business competitive and growing? Should you shortchange a person that allows many others the ability to put food on their table? So it seems you are saying that there is something wrong with a CEO getting paid well while laying people off. If that maximizes shareholders wealth, that is what they are supposed to do. Besides, there are valid reasons for people to be laid off. There is no such think a painless capitalism. But it works.

He's an INDEPENDENT, not a democrat. Your story needs some fact-checking. He changed his badging just to try and retain power. He's a pathetic politician.

If the Dems gain a tighter control over the Senate in '08, the first thing they should do is penalize Lieberman with low profile committee assignments, let him cross completely over, and say "to hell with him!" Better yet, maybe he'll take his marbles and go to Israel where he has dual citizenship. The Knesett would love to have him.

I've got no problem with Lieberman voting or holding moderate positions. I just think he has blinders on when it comes to the Middle East. He is of Israel, for Israel, and by Israel. If Israel dropped a nuke on Iran or Iraq because of some perceived threat or as retaliation for some terrorist act, he would rationalize its validity.

Like the Democrat above said, if they wanted loyalty from Lieberman, why didn't they make him their nominee?

Then again, I think this says more about Collins (a liberal republican) than it does about Lieberman's supposed affection for the GOP. We'll take the support, but... um, she's a pro-abort liberal on the social issues, and pretty much hates GWBush.

Of course he must be mighty p.o'd right now at the Democrats to openly support ANY republican.

Lieberman's a despicable turncoat a la Zell Miller. I don't understand why he professes to be an Orthodox Jew, then supports a policy in Iraq that only weakens Israel in the long run.

Remember, the Republicans hate your freedom, the Democrats merely find it offensive.

Does Lie-berman have dual citizenship with Israel?

US Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut has fought for the wrong side in some very disturbing economic trends in our country. Back in 1982, when I was a high school student, the CEO-to-worker pay gap was around 42-to-1. Two decades later, as I was teaching high school, that gap had grown by a factor of nearly seven, reaching 282-to-1 by 2002.

If we measure just since 1990, average CEO pay rose 279 percent, far more than the 46 percent increase in worker pay, which itself was only 8 points above the 38 percent inflation since then. CEO pay raises since 1990 also dramatically outpaced the stock market performance of the 500 largest publicly traded firms (which rose 166 percent), as well as the 93 percent rise in corporate profits.

Now, if we look at the extreme end of this trend in CEO pay inflation, we find an overlap with other disturbing trends. For example, at the 30 companies with the greatest shortfall in their employees' pension funds, CEOs made 59 percent more than the median CEO in a Business Week survey of 365 large corporations. At the 50 companies with the most announced layoffs in 2001, CEOs received a median income 38 percent higher than the median income of those in the corporations surveyed by Business Week. Finally, the top 50 job-cutting CEOs in total received more than $570 million in compensation in 2002, a reward of more than $1,000 for each of the 465,000 jobs cut.

How does Lieberman fit into it all? Much of the data above come from a report issued jointly by the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington and United for a Fair Economy in Boston. The report, "Executive Excess 2003: CEOs win, Workers and Taxpayers Lose," focuses on stock options as the main force driving the growing CEO-worker pay gap. The report details the history of corporate and congressional intervention in regulatory efforts to check this by requiring companies to "expense" stock options. In the report, Lieberman emerges as the key figure undermining efforts to require the "expensing" of these stock options on the corporate balance sheet. Lieberman sponsored a 1994 Senate resolution condemning the Federal Accounting Standards Board's proposal to make companies record stock options as an expense when granted to employees. Then again, in August 2002 -eight years deeper into the trends described above--Lieberman opposed a bill that would have required companies to expense stock options. He instead offered his own softer bill that still allows stock options to escape being reported as expenses on corporate balance sheets.

In effect, Lieberman helped to obscure the financial workings of companies paying CEOs outrageous sums even as they bleed jobs, underfund pensions and dodge taxes.

Joe Lieberman has allied himself with the masters of greed and pension-gouging and layoffs and tax-dodging. And, proving he has a subtle side as well, he works for obscurity in corporate accounting to make it all possible.

he is an independent, not a democrat

"His party's base?" Which party might that be, the "Connecticut for Lieberman" party, a party of one person? C'mon, Chris, wake up -- he's not a Democrat anymore.

What moderation have thes moderates brought? What principles do they promote? Did they stop the torture? Did they halp get moderate judges on the bench? Did they create a moderation in the war? Moderation is best achieved when two opposing sides reach common ground. Hands are shaken over the fence, not on the fence.

Get your facts straight for a change. He is an independent (I), not a Democrat (D).

Though Susan Collins voted to continue funding Bush's Iraq war her support was tepid at best. Joseph Lieberman, on the other hand, has not wavered in his Bush Bootlicking role as one of Bush's biggest cheerleaders in his support of War Forever in Iraq. Here is an excerpt of Collins' statement following her vote:

"My vote against the plan for an immediate and rapid withdrawal in this bill does not mean that I support an open-ended commitment of U.S. troops in Iraq. If the President's new strategy does not demonstrate significant results by August, then Congress should consider all options including a redefinition of our mission and a gradual but significant withdrawal of our troops next year."

Lieberman, of course, is not running for reelection until 2010 but he might want to consider that in 3 months Susan Collins may be joining the chorus of Republicans by abandoning the Bush vanity war as they increasingly see themselves more likely to see the exit door in November 2008.

Be careful of what you wish for Senator Lieberman, lest Susan Collins makes an even bigger mockery out of your War Forever allegiance to G. W. Bush.

What to expect from someone who is a front for the Israeli lobby. He'll take Israel's interest over the United States.. Leading to decisions which will harm us..
Who and how many Republican and Democratic Legislator's, Advisors, Family members, Friends, and Campaign Donors, have financial holdings in any companies making money off the Iraqi Civil War Quagmire??
Who and how many Bush Administration Officials, their Advisors, Family members, Friends, and Political Donors and Cronies, have any financial holdings in any companies making a profit off the Iraqi Civil WAr Debacle??
Blood Money off the backs of over 3500 dead American Soldiers, Marines, and Sailors and 900 dead Mercenaries!!
The Israeli lobby is using the USA to kill its own peoples in order to protect Israel.. Also it gives the Neo Con owned conglomerates a helluva profit..
Aided and abetted by the Neo Con owned News Media Conglomerates who are being paid billions of American Taxpayer dollars to put out spin for the Neo Cons so they can continue to Pig Out at the Unitd States Treasury Trough to the tune of trillions of American dollars that us, our kids, and grand kids will have to pay off.

First, Cillizza, as many people before me have pointed out Lieberman is not a Democrat. He lost the party's nomination, but won the general election as an indipendent. What was it, the Lieberman for Lieberman party or something like that. Lieberman, an independent, caucases with the Democratic Party. So your lede is factualy incorrect and incredibly misleading. I realize you might think this is splitting hairs, but when you base your story on a false statement you set up the framework for an incredibly flawed arguement.

Second, perhaps the reason Lieberman is raising money for a moderate conservative from a blue leaning state has more to do with his interest in holding onto his power in the Senate. Right now he gets whatever he wants by just dropping hints that he might caucus with the Republicans. If the democratic party takes the senate, Leiberman's threats have no more power.

Just a few things to think about.

Farm Interests Weigh In On Immigration

Lawmakers and farm interest supporters will gather tomorrrow on Capitol Hill to weigh in on the hot issue of immigration.

http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/farm-interests-weigh-in-on-immigration.html

The fun thing about living in Minnesota is the independent streak we have. The problem with any polls about Coleman right now are the choices people have. Privately, I know several (former) Coleman supporters who currently will choose to vote for no one. However, my feeling is, if the Bloomberg-Hagel ticket really comes about nationally, we will see other independents running for senate races. A true conservative in Minnesota (aka NOT Coleman and NOT Governor Pawlenty) could easily take 20%+ away from Coleman, handing victory to whoever the Democrats run in Minnesota.

It appears that many of the liberals here don't like independent thinkers. L's should be happy that he conferences with the D's. But then, since the L's are a one issues litmus test party, what can you really expect? I think the L's should throw Lieberman under the bus. It would be good for the country.

You got it Kevin. Let's work together. Like the republican's are crossing aisles right now. Like the republicans before teh blow out election of 06. Remember " You are with us or against us." and " Anyone who doesn't suppor the war is unamerican."

I agree with you that both parties need to work together. That's why the 4 years leading up to the 06 election was so scary. Nothing detered teh right from their goal. Not the Dems not the people not lawyers of judges. That, I would think, would make this war the right's burden to bear, if it fails. Is the right taking any responsiblity to doin gnothin gbut blame blame blame. There is plenty of blame to go around now. Now is the time for the right to listen to EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD

The Senate needs more citizens like Collins, Lieberman, and Specter. Senators beholden to key partisan constituenties are a major problem in this country. Democrats seem oblivious to how lucky they were to have independent, fiercely probing, pro-choice Specter leading the Judiciary committee before Democrats took power (under the hard-line pro-life leadership of Harry Reid and with the help of pro-life PA senator Bob Casey) Neither party has strong solutions to our country's problems, these aisle-crossers are extremely important to our future. (I don't check this blog regularly. Those seeking responses to comments should e-mail them to steimelkb@vcu.edu)

Completely Disgusted, I am a committee chairman in the United States Senate, the majority party of which is the Democrats.

How can you say I am not a Democrat?

A few of the above posters are correct. Whatever you think of him, he is: Joseph Lieberman (ID-Conn.).

I'm a mostly anti-Lieberman Dem myself, but I have to ask the question: If Democrats wanted loyalty from him, they should have made him their nominee.

Uh, Washington Post editors...are you guys asleep at the switch AGAIN? Lieberman is not a DEMOCRAT. He ran against the one that got the nomination, a guy named Lamont...remember? He's an "Independent Democrat" or something like that, which is not the same thing.

When you make a big mistake like that right out of the gate, on the first line, it doesn't inspire confidence. Guess those layoffs you guys pulled are really showing. One more corporate media outlet, shovelling cheesily sourced junk at us. Feh!!!!

There's already enough conservatives out here in Nevada already. I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone already. Where up is down and white is black. It's a small price to pay though. I'd give the conservatives any state, to themselves, if they would stop sabatoging the country and taking everybody else's rights. What about Alaska conservatives? It's your's. You can run it however you want. Have at it. :)

"Razorback" = "Boss Hogg"???

Awwww, them Libs!

Dear King of Zouk,

My nmae is Bobby. I am seven years old.

Daddy says I am smarter than you.

Love, Bobby

Rufus, why do you suggest that we settle the neocons in Australia? Too expensive, and besides, I have friends in Australia.

Let's bury them in Yucca Mountain.

in re: "america/bush friendly leaders"

that's an oxymoron.

Rather than me ,and everyone not a right conservative clone, fleeing. Why don't all the conservatives all move to Austrialia? Rupert Murdoch will build you a pretty world of fireflies and ponies. You can watch tabloid gossip all day everyday. I don't think you would be able to stomach that many right wingers, though. I don't think that would be a very good to raise my children at all :)

For the online video of the relationship between the CIA and Saddam please go to:

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

For uncensored news please bookmark:

www.wsws.org
www.takingaimradio.info
otherside123.blogspot.com
www.onlinejournal.com
www.globalresearch.ca

Unlike true independent Bernie Sanders who was offered the Democratic nomination in VT and refused, Joe Lieberman sought the Democratic nomination in CT and was defeated. Joe Lieberman is an independent who caucuses with the Democratic Party - his spokesman has said as much. Connecticut election law prevented Lieberman from using any form of 'Democrat' or 'Democratic' next to his name on the ballot for good reason - Ned Lamont won the Democratic nomination in a free and fair primary vote among CT Democrats. This is fact, not opinion.

If the Cowboys win the NFC East and the Redskins go on to win the Superbowl as the Wild Card that doesn't retroactively make the Redskins the NFC East champion. Similarly if Joe Lieberman loses the Democratic primary only to win the general election as a 3rd-party candidate it doesn't make Joe Lieberman the Democratic nominee. It makes Lieberman an independent.

Why is this so hard for the press to get right?

Money buys a lot of freindships, in the world of right wing WORLD DOMINATION, DCAustinite. Don't forget Mexico, canada, austrialian, the eu.

Not good, not good at all. I told everyone if the right won the election in 06 I was fleeing the country. Luckily, I got to stay. If I need to flee the facists, what country can I flee to now?

Maybe I have to stay and make sure the right dosn't accomplish their goals. Maybe I have to stay.

"I thought more than half of the voters wanted us to lose the war right away? but not even in deep-blue connecticut it seems. and not in the HOR or Senate. Wait a minute, let me go find a poll to use to prop up my zany liberal views, despite all actual results. Then the NYT will print it as factual news. then maybe, just maybe, We libs can finally win a Presidential election fair and square. If not we'll sue or find faulty voting machines. We never lose on issues, I think.

We need to turn over our foreign policy to France and germany, except, now they have thrown out the socialists and elected america/bush friendly leaders. Never mind. can we turn over our foreign policy to cuba? they have the best health care in the world you know."

Don't you have a reichstag to burn?

I wish lieberman would stay out of it. Not because I want the Dem to win, I don't know anything about him, but because I think Susan collins isn't that bad and it would be nice to retain SOME moderate republicans in the senate. Lieberman I don't like because he claims to be a democrat but didn't respect the decision of democrats in his home state. It's not that he's centrist, so was Ned Lamont.

Eh, I don't think there's much ground for centrism these days.

Ignore Razor today. The man who doesn't think treasson is illegal. this guy thinks the Dems have the power to label Lieberman a Republcian. Not yet buddy. Your facsim push failed. this is still america. Leiberman still gets to decided if he's a D R or I right?

Or does Nancy Pelosi make that call. I know you repubs like to throw labels on people, but lieberman makes the call. What's the differance if he switches. The right will have to answer to us anyways in the next two elections

I thought more than half of the voters wanted us to lose the war right away? but not even in deep-blue connecticut it seems. and not in the HOR or Senate. Wait a minute, let me go find a poll to use to prop up my zany liberal views, despite all actual results. Then the NYT will print it as factual news. then maybe, just maybe, We libs can finally win a Presidential election fair and square. If not we'll sue or find faulty voting machines. We never lose on issues, I think.

We need to turn over our foreign policy to France and germany, except, now they have thrown out the socialists and elected america/bush friendly leaders. Never mind. can we turn over our foreign policy to cuba? they have the best health care in the world you know.

It seems that moderately liberal Reps
have short life expectancies because they are elected in moderately liberal districts or states - that tend to vote Dem.

Similarly, moderately conservative Dems are constantly at the mercy of moderately conservative voters who tend to vote Rep.

That is why moderates lose control of both parties - moderate districts and states are split between the parties and swing back and forth.

I do not have an answer, but the Collins race underscores the appeal of a centrist party to many.

Should Lieberman still have the "D" next to his name? He lost the Dem primary and ran as an independent. Sure, he caucuses with the Democrats, but so did Jeffords. Shouldn't it be (I-Conn.)?

Daniel K - the Lieberman party HAS no liberal base. If you look at the electoral results, the Democrats voted for Lamont. The Republicans elected Lieberman.

DCAustinite - he doesn't need to identify himself. If it waddles and quacks like a Zouk, there is only one conclusion.

"Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) is never going to win any popularity contests among his party's liberal base"

What, the Lieberman Party?

"If you dare to think on your own, you can't be a Dem these days. Lockstep demogougery is required for this party..."

He can't even post a fake name. Wow, what a coward. I mean, anybody else picture this guy in his mom's basement, the shades drawn real tight for fear the terrorists can see him, with fox news playing in the background?

Franken will do to the Minnesota D party what he did to air america.

If you dare to think on your own, you can't be a Dem these days. Lockstep demogougery is required for this party. If you can't put the next election victory over the interests of the entire nation, go join the Rs.

Coleman is polling ok in MN. 22 points ahead of the preferred moonbat choice Al Franken and this is in a blue state.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/05/14/coleman/

Anyone seen any polling date from Maine?

rufus1133 said something right, maybe for the first time ever. The D's should to that to Lieberman, just like Rufus says. The R's tried that exact strategy with Jeffords, and it cost them control of the Senate in 2000. Great idea Rufus.

Lieberman is a sellout and a tratior. He should just put the R next to his name and join the rest of the sellouts and tratiors