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"your hate blinds you"

Or is it your racism.

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I am a former Army Infantry soldier 11B.

Wasn't Thompson a nixon mole during watergate? Regan is dead.So is elvis and john wayne. Sorry to break it to you. Welcome to reality. Now, build from that point.

The republcians have zero chance in the next election. Zero. Your going to back an actor who hasn't been in politics for decades? That's your call. I'll go with AMericans not traitors and sell-outs. You do you, I'll do me.

Welcome to reality Mr Smith. Good luck.

As a life long resident of the Volunteer State, a disabled combat veteran who for many years in the 80's owned and a successful corporation in Tennessee. I feel that Mr. Thompson will be a very strong force in the race for the White House. Having know Mr. Thompson for many years the American people can I feel rest assure that our nation will not have to worry about where the next scandal will come from, or wether or not which side of the fence Mr. Thompson will be on. He is a man of great moral and ethical stator, a born leader. When Mr. Thompson walks in the room, everyone knows, it is sort of like the old slogan of E. F. Hutton, "when he talks, everyone listens".

What else do we have to choose from? I feel Mr. McCain is a fine man, and have much respect for him as combat veteran and prisoner of war. He has fought hard for veterans rights, and has a strong since of foreign policy. Unfortunately though, Mr. McCain does not have the type of leadership America needs in international relations to pull us up out of this mess that the current administration has thrown America into. To bad President Regan is not still around, hu?

Mr. Romney, a good man, but no experience in foreign policy, or international leadership. Mr. Giuliani has already shown his colors, he is already to heavily influenced by corporate America, and that scares us all.

On the Democratic side, well there is not even an option, Oboma or Biliary, enough said!

We still have a long road ahead in the race, let us all be of open minds and open hearts, for the heart usually makes great decisions and do not forget it is the American fighting men and women who gave us all the rights to vote, so use your right and vote in this election.

God Bless America, and those who defend her.

"China executes ex-head of food and drug agency
Zheng sentenced to death in May for taking bribes to OK substandard drugs"

they know how to deal with treason. China seems to know how to deal with people in the government who put their own security ($$$$$$) over their countries best interest.

Global warming is a myth, right? Pollution is good for the enviornment, right? You people.

"In March we all took on Fox and we beat them. Bad. The Nevada Fox-sponsored presidential debates were cancelled when our videos showing Fox's distortions were spread far and wide. Local bloggers worked like crazy, activists around the country wrote and called, and MoveOn used their strategic strength and smarts to bring it all home.

Now Fox is at it again. The only surprise this time is the amount of time and energy they are putting into denying that the sun sets in the west. Okay, well not exactly, but pretty close. They are fighting the scientific truth of the climate crisis and are claiming it just isn't so! I'm not kidding. Take a look at the video evidence, you won't believe what you see. (Well, maybe you will)

The Sierra Club has a petition to sign asking Home Depot to stop advertising on FOX News"

Murdock says Global warming is real yet his "news" station continues the attack. You gop'ers are funny. What do you have to gain by destryoing the world? Where is the win for you? I don't get it at all.

Is it that you think Jesus will come and save us? Is it that you think the world is a horrible place. Rather than making it better and saving it ARMEGGEDDON? I don't get you people at all. You dittoheads are not in charge anymore. You are irrelevant for a generation. Good-bye

Wow traheel. 25000. Wow. Chiropractors? WOW.

How much do we spend a month on the war? 12 BILLION is reported. The real number is unknown. How many american deaths by those two HUGLY IMPORTANT STORIES your spreading. YOu are a joe. you cannot defend these criminals. That is the differance. I think ALL criminals and frauds should be in jail. YOu think ONLY DEMOCRATS should be persued. Wait. The storm is coming. Right now you just don't know what your people ahve been doing. "I plead the fifth. I don't recall." Patriot act. Attorney purge. You just don't know yet. Rush/Fox news doesn't report news if it's bad for the gop. You will hear. Bush cronies are sell-outs. They're going to roll over when it helps them. They are going to sing.

Your party is done for my lifetime. Finally. You people are a loke. Stop hiding you head in the sand and defending criminals. You know the saying "lay down with dogs you catch fleas."

And the spelling. As people here know, I do that for authoritarian gop'ers who need something OTHER than the facts to talk about. It's a trick to show independant thinkers how out of touch you people really are. The peopel who attack or discredit rather than conversating on the facts.

Your party is done tarheel. We both knwo it. You words are usless.

Gus Burk. Super post. The warming and cooling cycles have been occurring on a more or less regular basis for millions of years. One climate alarmist proclaimed that we haven't had global warming like this for 600 years. What caused it then? Too many fireplaces in the castles and huts? We need to quit spending billions trying to stop a process that is natural and will continue to occur for the next million years, even long after Al Gore is extinct.

rufsu (as you spelled it), you obviously didn't read my posts. How does a U.S. Congressman from Louisiana affect me? He's a U.S. Congressman and brings his corruption to every committee he's on. Committees that make decisions that affect the lives of all Americans. You are clueless to how Congress works. I stress clueless. You want a current Democratic Party North Carolina scandal that affects me. Here you are. It involves Jim Black who was acknowledged to be the most powerful politician in North Carolina.

Black Pleads Guilty to Corruption Charges - Took $25,000 from chiropractors for influence, by Paul Chesser, Carolina Journal, February 16, 2007. Jim Black, North Carolina Democratic Speaker of the House, last week pleaded guilty to taking about $29,000, mostly in cash, from some chiropractors, is looking at a 10-year maximum jail sentence and a possible $250,000 fine. He also committed crimes related to the state lottery and allowing a lobbyist to use his office and resources. But to lighten his sentence, Black has agreed to name other corrupt Democrats.

"rufus, "... Democratic socialism is new..." No it isn't. It is Scandinavian socialism and it works just fine, than you. Universal medical care, universal retirement insurance, 6 weeks paid vacation manitory for all workers, ZERO national debt, universal public service (9 months military or alternative service), a clean environment, taxes raised to the hilt on the rich and moderate for everyone else, pretty much universal home ownership, business/corporations *required* to be socially responsible, 2 years minimum unemployment (and a corresponding low unemployment rate), etc. The Danish model is what we ought to be following. Just swipe it from them and put the DNC stamp on it if you want. It works and it works well."

I'm aware there are countries out there that claim democratic socialism. They do good. Not bad mouthing. it is a new development. How many years? Under fifty for sure. That is new to me. In regards to socailism principles here. Socialism conbined with our democratic "freedoms" ideals COULD be utopia. I'm aware they're doing their thing out there. If the dark side wins again i might have to move ovr there.

What CNN? Aren't they the "liberal media".

they are a small notch below fox, in terms of republican propoganda. I guess you get labeled libral for being left of the FOx FAscsits.

What a joke. For all the "liberal media". I have NO liberal tv shows to watch. Conservatives?

Everyone needs to go see CNN's hit piece on Michael Moore. First they introduce Moore, then unleash a TOTALLY false and misleading hit piece on SiCKO called a "Reality Check" that was totally factually incorrect and tried to call Moore out for "fudging". So after the hit piece they have Moore on and he is (understandably) BALISTIC.

Watch:

www.michaelmoore.com

I encourage EVERYONE to stand up to the insane, ludicrous lies by Wolf Blitzer and Sanjay Gupta. PLEASE WRITE TO CNN after watching the piece on Michael's site. Thanks.

Mark in Austin, I am amazed by your reckless optimism. Cassandra doesn't read. What would anyone want to read anything that is different from their ideological misconceptions?

Cassandra, please read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/business/worldbusiness/11chinacoal.html?ex=1307678400en=e9ac1f6255a24fd8ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss

What a waste of time. The republicans have no chance. None.

David, you say its thin & cheesy - but you don't say its false, does that mean you believe its true?

When you run for POTUS, you have to expect this sort of thing. If you're running as the electable saviour of the pro-life Washington outsider cause then this sort of thing is very damaging, no matter how "cheesy" you thyink it is...

The Left (incudes most of the media) is beginning to take regular pot shots at Fred Thompons as they know he'll be the front runner immediately upon announcing his candidacy.

The cheap shot about alleged lobbying for a pro-choice cause is about as thin and cheesy as those sure to come.

The Left (incudes most of the media) is beginning to take regular pot shots at Fred Thompons as they know he'll be the front runner immediately upon announcing his candidacy.

The cheap shot about alleged lobbying for a pro-choice cause is about as thin and cheesy as those sure to come.

The Left (incudes most of the media) is beginning to take regular pot shots at Fred Thompons as they know he'll be the front runner immediately upon announcing his candidacy.

The cheap shot about alleged lobbying for a pro-choice cause is about as thin and cheesy as those sure to come.

The Left (incudes most of the media) is beginning to take regular pot shots at Fred Thompons as they know he'll be the front runner immediately upon announcing his candidacy.

The cheap shot about alleged lobbying for a pro-choice cause is about as thin and cheesy as they are sure to come.

Hillary, you're about to get your bum kicked. Woe to the anti-war MaGovernite party that rallies to Billory.

Al Gore? Global warming? Al is about lies, from the mining on his property to Earth warming. I'll take Fred any day over the Demo's. Without global warming we would still be stuck back in one of the glacerial epocs, as it is we are in a 10-20 thousand year inter-glacial epoc within the current ice age. We know that there have been a minimum of seven glaciations and as many as ten since the last pole shift. Each time global warming ended the glaciation period. Humans had nothing to do with it but have profited from it. As to the continued warming, it has been occurring since about 13,000 years ago and will culminate with a cooling downturn that will last for three to eight thousand years taking us into the coming glaceral epoc. It is not a matter of if but when. It occurs on a regular basis. Humans currently account for .12 to .14 of
1% of greenhouse gases. This small amount is not driving the planet's heating. Look across the solar system and you will find that Mars and Venus are both heating up. This is cause by solar changes that occur in a solar cycle of about 25,000 years. also know as the solar wobble. Within this cycle is a 1500 year cycle of heating and cooling that parallels the rise and fall of various cultures

It is pointless for anyone to talk about how liberal voters will stay home if (or rather, when) one of the more moderate Democratic candidates wins the nomination. The majority of Americans don't want to see another Republican occupy the Oval Office right now, a sentiment that is not likely to change in the next 16 months. I am a liberal, tried, true, and proud. I will vote for the Democratic nominee next year. I support a candidate in the primaries, but I will rally behind the nominee for the general, whomever it turns out to be.

I do so because the alternatives are unappealing to say the least. None of the top-tier GOP candidates can move us past the widening gap created by the current divisive tone of American politics.

rufus, "... Democratic socialism is new..." No it isn't. It is Scandinavian socialism and it works just fine, than you. Universal medical care, universal retirement insurance, 6 weeks paid vacation manitory for all workers, ZERO national debt, universal public service (9 months military or alternative service), a clean environment, taxes raised to the hilt on the rich and moderate for everyone else, pretty much universal home ownership, business/corporations *required* to be socially responsible, 2 years minimum unemployment (and a corresponding low unemployment rate), etc. The Danish model is what we ought to be following. Just swipe it from them and put the DNC stamp on it if you want. It works and it works well.

loudon -- zouk/razorback/trotsky/village idiot goes off duty at 6. noon to six, that's his working schedule.

Rightwingnut ignorant coward: Please report to the real world. You know, the one in which rightwingnut Republican isolationists kept the US out of World War II until Pearl Harbor.

"Fred Thompson aided Nixon on Watergate

Former president called potential candidate 'dumb as hell'"

Yet President Nixon and his top aides viewed the fellow Republican as a willing, if not too bright, ally, according to White House tapes.

Thompson, now preparing a bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, won fame in 1973 for asking a committee witness the bombshell question that revealed Nixon had installed hidden listening devices and taping equipment in the Oval Office.

Those tapes show Thompson played a behind-the-scenes role that was very different from his public image three decades ago. He comes across as a partisan willing to cooperate with the Nixon White House's effort to discredit the committee's star witness."

Tricky freddy

I see the braindead loudon voter is still not able to make an intelligent contribution. how amusing.

tHE PROBLEM IS )brave blank poster) you see ME as you enemy. You see americans as your enemy. You see, whoever rush/hanntiy/oreilly tells you is the enemy. That's the problem. Aren't the sadui's bush's freinds? So who are bush's enemies? WTC. Americans? Who? Treason?

I see the rightwingnut ignorant coward is posting feverishly. how amusing.

Let's count dead enemies.

Clinton: zero
Bush: lots and lots.

Never mind though because the NYT doesn't hype this number up for obvious reasons.

To much truth Blarg. There just going to throw a temper tantrum. At least all independant poster who read (but are scared to post because of these fascsits) see their face. That's all we can ask. Vote em' out. That's the plan. Go independant if WE need to

Well there was that 3000 civilian killing a few short months after his departure. Planned for years based on the non-response of all the previous efforts. but who's counting?

"they think that random killing of civilians is exactly equated to volunteer soldiers in a war zone"

Civilians?

The Battle of Mogadishu ("Black Hawk Down"), in which 19 American *servicemen* were killed, in 1993;

The bombing of a U.S. *military training center* in Saudi Arabia, killing five Americans, in 1995;

The bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 members of the *United States Air Force*, in 1996;

The bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen, killing 17 members of the *United States Navy*, in 2000.

Not a single example from that list was of "women and children getting blown up in subways." That never happened in the Clinton years. What happened was that our military was killed in small numbers. And one embassy was bombed in the Sudan. Compare that to the far larger number of deaths of military personnel and civilians abroad under Bush. If you want to count dead, you're going to lose. To pretend otherwise is beyond ridiculous.

But in the weeks before his cash totals were disclosed, the Obama campaign hit a series of rough patches that seemed to highlight his relative inexperience on the national stage.

_Critics dismissed as somewhat lackluster Obama's performance in three nationally televised debates. One was a civil rights forum in which Obama, the field's only black contender, was expected to shine.

The debates proved an effective showcase for rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, and the strong reviews she received helped reinforce her status as the Democrat to beat. The candidates will debate again July 23 in South Carolina.

_Obama's relationship with Chicago real estate mogul Antoin "Tony" Rezko continues to draw scrutiny, even as the candidate has sought to further distance himself from his longtime political consigliere. The Obama campaign has already shed about $37,000 in contributions connected to Rezko, who was indicted last year on charges he sought kickbacks from companies doing business with an Illinois state pension fund.

_An Obama campaign research memo surfaced criticizing Bill and Hillary Clinton's financial connections to India. The memo fell into the hands of Clinton's communications team, who promptly shared it with reporters. The snarky tone of the memo -- which at one point identified the New York senator as "D-Punjab" -- seemed to contradict Obama's stated commitment to running a positive campaign.

Obama blamed his staff for producing the memo, the third time he's publicly pointed the finger at employees for campaign mishaps. He then spent most of an Iowa campaign trip distancing himself from the memo and apologizing to his Indian-American supporters.

"Obama is to some extent a victim of his own success -- when you come blazing out of the gate, it makes it very difficult to continue to beat expectations," Democratic strategist Dan Newman said.

To be sure, none of the stumbles were fatal or even likely to sway many votes at this stage of the campaign. But evidence suggests Obama's fabled charisma hasn't closed the sale yet, either.

"If the Japanese want Pearl harbor so bad, just give it to them. It's not worth getting angry over."

Present day Lib time traveler going back to 1941

Thompson will quickly snuff out any hints of the previously unstoppable Romney fundraising effort. Mitt's dried up, except for his own cash.

Anybody see "Opus" on Fred yesterday? Funnnnny...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

research it. I'm not as concerned with a label or name. I'm concerned what's happening on the streets.

Democratic socialism is not bad or scary. It is utopia. Reasearch. We are corporate slaves wasting our lives so the top %5 can live it up. Slavery. rATHER THAN HOLDING ON TO THE MONEY TO PAY OUT STOCK HOLDERS, that money needs to go to the people MAKING the product. It's not that hard. The CEO doesn't need %50 of the earnings. That's not what a "republic/democracy" is based on.

Democratic socialism. Money away from the top percent and back to the people. Electricty to all (this is not a thrid world country), food and water to all americans. Housing is possible. Let go of your greed.

ONE WORLD ONE PEOPLE. Star Trek Style. We can advance. Or we can destroy ourselves. The GOP is for destroy ourselves (greed will destroy them). Are they going to win or is humanity?

June 4th 1944. Libs in congress today demanded a timetable for the invasion of France. they felt the war was not progressing as planned. the NYT today printed the agreed upon timetable for invasion, specifying the beach, time and strength of the Allied forces. General Rommel telegraphed his thanks to the editors.

This site is a waste of time. These fascists are teh same as all the other fascsits who have came and went. The others loved power. The only differance between these fascsits is that they want $$$$$$ and power.

Nothing new. Democratic socialism is new. Never been tried. Scared the fascists to death. Why? Because they FEAR they will lose their possesions. Not the case. They are just scared of change.

Don't hate them. Pity them. Help them. When they lose or when they go to the pearly gates, they won't be able to say they werne't told. They won't be able to say that love. All they know is money. The mark of the beast. They will have to answer for this some day. Judgement day. Or closer to home, in 2008. Either way they are going o be little whining bit__. Just remember that posters. There time is up. Regardless of the parroting propoganda. Their time is up. They have a couple months. They won't be able to say they wern't warned. All the treason they commit in the meantime and every should be treated as such

Add up all the numbers in that post, and you get 285 Americans killed by terrorism in the 90s. Compare that to the approximately 600 American soldiers who have died in Iraq since January of this year. So, yes, I am nostalgic for the 90s.

this is perfect analysis by the Lib true believers. they think that random killing of civilians is exactly equated to volunteer soldiers in a war zone. According to them we should hide at home in our basements and as long as not too many women and children get blown up on subways, everything is just fine and dandy.

On the other hand, if one wishes to consider going on offense, killing the enemy and fighting over there ( a decidely anti_Lib notion) you can also count the dead enemy if the NYT will allow it:

There have, since 2001, been single days in Afghanistan and Iraq when our armed forces, sent into battle by President Bush, have killed and captured more terrorists than the United States government managed to neutralize during the entire Clinton presidency.

" love how you treat failed plots as evidence that our policies weren't working. There were several failed terrorism plots this year; do you count those against Bush?'
" the point was the Dem response to all the information and attacks. what response you ask?

get me a fatter intern bellowed Bill! and fire some missiles at someone to show I'm on the job. I mean getting a job. oh never mind, don't do anything.

Today, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani delivered a speech to the Jewish Community Relations Council in New York:

[I]f we flee Iraq, if we do what the Democrats want us to do -- which is to not only flee Iraq, not only retreat in Iraq, but give them a timetable of our retreat.

Have you ever heard of that in a history of war? Have you ever heard of an army being required to give a printed schedule of its release to the enemy? It makes no sense, does it? Whether you're for the war or against it, you would never have an army retreat on a six- month, one-year, 18-month schedule explaining, We'll reduce the forces by 20,000, then by 30,000, then by 50,000. Gee, you can then figure out when the forces are depleted enough so you can really do damage to them.

Giuliani needs to brush up on his history. A publicly-announced gradual reduction of forces is exactly what the United States did in the Vietnam War. On May 14, 1969, President Richard Nixon laid out an "eight-point peace plan" calling for the gradual withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Vietnam:

Over a period of 12 months, by agreed-upon stages, the major positions of all U.S., allied, and other non-South Vietnamese forces would be withdrawn. At the end of this 12-month period, the remaining U.S., allied, and other non-South Vietnamese forces would move into designated base areas and would not engage in combat operations.

Some highlights of Nixon giving the enemy a "timetable of our retreat":

June 8, 1969: Nixon announces the redeployment of 25,000 troops, which would begin in the "next 30 days" and be completed by the end of August.

Sept. 16, 1969: Nixon announces a new "troop ceiling," meaning that a minimum of 60,000 troops would be withdrawn by December.

Dec. 15, 1969: Nixon calls for a "reduction in our troop ceiling of 50,000 more U.S. troops by April 15 next year."

April 20, 1970: Nixon calls for the withdrawal of 150,000 troops "to be completed during the spring of next year."

Oct. 12, 1970: Nixon announces the reduction of the troop ceiling by another 40,000 troops between "now and Christmas."

Nov. 12, 1971: Nixon announced to the nation, "Over the next 2 months we will withdraw 45,000 Americans."

Jan. 13, 1972: Nixon stated, "I am announcing today the withdrawal of an additional 70,000 [troops] from Vietnam over the next 3 months."

Apr. 26, 1972: Nixon announces that "over the next 2 months 20,000 more Americans will be brought home from Vietnam."

Whether it's blowing off Iraq Study Group meetings, showing ignorance about the root causes of 9/11, attacking Clinton for 9/11, or fear-mongering about sensible redeployment from Iraq, Giuliani talks big and thinks small.

During the press conference today, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow blindly defended the President's "surge strategy" and inexplicably argued that Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) supports the policy. "If you look at what Senator Lugar has said about the surge so far, he says that it's working," said Snow. "His comments indicate that he thinks it's working."

In reality, two weeks ago, Lugar issued a sharp rebuke of the President's "surge strategy." On the floor of the U.S. Senate he specifically stated that the Bush administration's "surge" is failing:

In my judgment, the current surge strategy is not an effective means of protecting [U.S.] interests. Its prospects for success are too dependent on the actions of others who do not share our agenda. It relies on military power to achieve goals that it cannot achieve. It distances allies that we will need for any regional diplomatic effort. Its failure, without a careful transition to a back-up policy would intensify our loss of credibility. It uses tremendous amounts of resources that cannot be employed in other ways to secure our objectives.

When you're losing an argument, allows drag up Jefferson and Clinton -- surefire way to distract. Or bin Ladin. Only lthat one doesn't work anymore now that it's been 6 years and he's still out there...

funny foks, gop. in the clown kind of way.

'For those of you who are alarmed by the anti-democratic tendencies of today's GOP, you needn't worry any longer: The leader of the Senate Republicans has just conceded to his constituents that their opinions -- and those of the public at large -- are "not irrelevant."

An article in USA Today captures the surreal but revealing scene:

HOPKINSVILLE, Ky -- Just down the road at Fort Campbell on Thursday, TV cameras captured a wrenching scene: tearful spouses exchanging last hugs and toddlers clinging to parents' desert fatigues as troops prepared to ship out for a 15-month deployment.

Hours later, the man who must try to hold Senate Republicans together in this week's debate on Iraq delivered a luncheon speech here to 130 local business and political leaders. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky's senior senator and his party's Senate leader, did not sugarcoat the situation.

"The majority of the public has decided the Iraq effort is not worth it," he said. "That puts a lot of pressure on Congress to act because public opinion in a democracy is not irrelevant."

Phew, thank God for that. I was getting worried there for a minute.

How many people died as a result of that tarheel? How many people'slives does that effect?

You are in NC. Does a crooked politican in New Orleans effect your daily life? Is he being held accountable? Do you hear any dems/libs saying he should be held accountable?

Again. When you want to act like a grown-up. You will be treated like one. using arguments liek this make you look very partisan.

Think about this always before you open you fascsit mouths:

HOW DOES THIS EFFECT ME?

You'll do a lot better. As is your just wasting everybody's time.

Waaaah. GOPs are insulting me. I am going to pretend that I don't trade in insults every day all day and act offended. We Libs are very good at acting offended at things we normally do anyway. Watch.

anything to get away from all this policy and logic and facts. you all know we Libs don't do that.

Lylepink, over half the country knows what crooks the clintons are. there is really no debate. Only the vastly disingenuous could defend almost any of their actions. Pardons in particular is a very sore subject with them. and whatever you do, don't mention killing terrorists.

'I love how you treat failed plots as evidence that our policies weren't working. There were several failed terrorism plots this year; do you count those against Bush?'

Don't expect consistency from parrots and trained seals, blarg.

Stalking people at supermarkets that is

Coming attractions! Congressman William Jefferson appearing in Cold Hard Cash should be hitting the airwaves soon. $90,000 in bribe money in the freezer. And he gets re-elected. The Democratic party just loves Democratic voters. Step right up robots and pull that lever for Bill. Bill Clinton, Bill Jefferson. Whatever Bill has had a scandal lately. They still get voted back into office or get huge crowds for their speeches. No wonder the Dems support cloning research. Cloned voters. You gotta love'em. Hillary and Nancy sure do.

Amoth middle school argument by the hard (scared) blank poster. "I know you are but what am I."

Elementary school agruments. You want to be treated like a big boy, stop the personal attacks. Try posting why bush shouldn't held accountable to the law like everybody else. Right now your middle school arguments (clinton did this or that) make you look like an angry 14 year old boy who is new to the game. Doesn't know what in the world he is talking about.

this is your wake-up call. Act like a middle school child get treated like one. Like Fox news, when they act like a NEWS ORGANIZATION then they should be treated as such. I say give them papparazzi privledges. They are already stacking people in supermarket. Go full distance :)

http://www.ftc.gov/reports/060518PublicGasolinePricesInvestigationReportFinal.pdf

This is the report of the Federal Trade Commission issued about gas prices after the hurricane. The report was unanimously adopted by the Commission, which includes 2 members appointed by Democrats.

I challenge anyone who posts on this blog to find anything in this report that is inconsistent with the economic principles I have advocated on this blog.

One idiot has already dismissed the report as the opinion of "a bunch of lobbysists". Lets check out who some of the commissioners are.

In joining the Commission, Leibowitz resumed a long career of public service. He was the Democratic chief counsel and staff director for the U.S. Senate Antitrust Subcommittee from 1997 to 2000, where he focused on competition policy and telecommunications matters. He served as chief counsel and staff director for the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism and Technology from 1995 to 1996 and the Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Justice from 1991 to 1994. In addition, he served as chief counsel to Senator Herb Kohl from 1989 to 2000. Leibowitz worked for Senator Paul Simon from 1986 to 1987.

DEMOCRATIC CHEIF COUNSEL TO THE ANTITRUST COMMITTEE??? I bet he is engaged in corporate conspiracies, right Cassandra?

J. Thomas Rosch, nationally regarded for his antitrust and trade regulation law expertise, he has been lead counsel in more than 100 federal and state court antitrust cases and has more than 40 years experience before the Bar. In 2003, Rosch was honored as Antitrust Lawyer of the Year by the California State Bar Antitrust Section. He obtained his LLB from Harvard University in 1965 and was a Knox Fellow at Cambridge in 1962.

Another idiot, just because he agrees with ME?

Some of you liberals like to lecture about science and rationality, then you dismiss the conclusions of very experienced credible people from both parties.

Dismissing them as ignorant conspirators shows who is truly ignorant.

Wonder which country will be the first to invade the US, once we no longer have any military deterent? In nine months?

Russia? China? Iran? North Korea?

Our treasonous administration has set us up for an attack -- our ports and borders are wide open, our National Guard is overseas/depleted, our military is depleted-- we have never been more vulnerable.

Add up all the numbers in that post, and you get 285 Americans killed by terrorism in the 90s. Compare that to the approximately 600 American soldiers who have died in Iraq since January of this year. So, yes, I am nostalgic for the 90s.

I love how you treat failed plots as evidence that our policies weren't working. There were several failed terrorism plots this year; do you count those against Bush?

A shining example of the elevated discourse of cons

drindl, do you selectively ignore all the others who posted similarly. you are a shining example of "chosen ignorance". Only one side of every conversation pierces your entrenched concepts.

Why does CC allow this person zouk to paste the same stuff over and over?

'and the market is sodden with angry, nasty, insulting Libs.'

or zouk:

Please explain basic economics to me. I am an ignorant coward Lib and have no concept of anything more complicated than cutting and pasting from Kos, and that took me months to figure out. I was the first in my family to make it past 6th grade....to 7th grade. Mom was so proud.

"republicans know we'll be running out of troops in 9 months and are starting to get scared..."

Think about the hell the troops are in though. Yeah it's bad here. Imagine troops with no safe line to retreat to. Imagine death around you at all times.

The gop extends tours. This after they shrunk the military. The gop would keep them there indefinatly. Who supports the troops? The democrats ARE looking out for them, unlike the gop which is using them.

This coming from a formor Army infantry 11b soldier :)

The bombing of the World Trade Center, killing six people, in 1993;

A plot to bomb the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels, the U.N. complex, and the FBI's headquarters in New York City in 1993;

The Battle of Mogadishu ("Black Hawk Down"), in which 19 American servicemen were killed, in 1993;

A plot to bomb American airliners over the Pacific, killing one Japanese tourist in a dry run, in 1994;

The bombing of a U.S. military training center in Saudi Arabia, killing five Americans, in 1995;

The bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 members of the United States Air Force, in 1996;

The bombing of the U.S. embassy in Kenya, killing 213 people and wounding approximately 4,000, in 1998;

The bombing of the U.S. embassy in Tanzania, killing at least twelve people and wounding approximately 85, in 1998;

A plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport in 1999;

A plot to bomb the U.S.S. The Sullivans in Yemen in 2000; and

The bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen, killing 17 members of the United States Navy, in 2000.

Response - do nothing. that is our default policy as you are now realizing. unless there are interns around. then we go to work!

Let's get all nostalgic and go back to the Clinton 90s when we preferred to lie supine for our enemies and interns to have their way with us.

'and the market is sodden with angry, nasty, insulting Libs.'

you mean like razorback?

'An idiot like drindle never lets facts get in the way of an ideological conclusion, no matter how stupid it is. An idiot like drindle almost never participates in a factual debate, because she doesn't know anything.'

I notice Hillary has not been attacked very much today, and the almost stupid remarks trying to equate the Bubba pardons to the GW communited prison time of Libby. There is absolutely no way they can be even remotely considered in the same breath. I did not agree with some of the pardons by Bubba, but Susan McDougal was by far the one I considered most just. Fred Thompson was defended by me awhile back when someone accused him of being gay, and I will continue to speak out against lies, no matter as to who they are directed. Coming from the strongest Hillary supporter on this site, I expect some will not agree, so fire away.

National security adviser Stephen J. Hadley visited Capitol Hill just before Congress adjourned for the Fourth of July. Meetings with a half-dozen senior Republican senators were clearly intended to extinguish fires set by Sen. Richard Lugar's unexpected break from President Bush's Iraq policy. They failed.

Always deferential, Hadley took copious notes. But he did more than listen. Based on what Hadley said, one senator concluded that "they just do not recognize the depth of the difficulty they are in." That difficulty entails running out of troops in nine months.

Hadley increased latent fears of the U.S. military being made the fall guy -- a concern shared by many retired and some active senior officers, including a current infantry division commander.'

republicans know we'll be running out of troops in 9 months and are starting to get scared...

'An idiot like drindle never lets facts get in the way of an ideological conclusion, no matter how stupid it is. An idiot like drindle almost never participates in a factual debate, because she doesn't know anything.'

A shining example of the elevated discourse of cons. You beat them in a debate and they start calling you names and throwing a full-blown toddler tantrum.

they are wrong on nearly every issue. They are agisnt free choice and truth at everychance. What are they for? You be the judege. To me they about $$$$$. Nothing else. Slavery and $$$$. This is the internet age. They can no longer propogate without it catching up to them. That only works without the internet. Or with the internet destroyed (patriot act). They are scared. Their 60 year old revolution is finally over.

America gets her integrity back starting in 08. As to Live Earth. You know they got it all wrong. With those names. They had ALL the biggest names in the industry. Does that happen if global warming is a myth as gop/razor would have you beleive.

The people now use their own eyes/brains, as opposed to their ears. The dittohead fascists are done for a generation. Bad for them. Good for the rest of the world. Now comes the sabotage. We can't be scared to hold the saboturs feet to the fire. Jail time. Real consquences for TREASON

waffling, flippflopping

I thought that was what you Libs wanted in a candidate. I am going to have to talk to Mitt. all the MASS pols act like this, I didn't understand that only Libs like it.

why do all the gas companies charge exactly the same price?

Please explain basic economics to me. I am an ignorant coward Lib and have no concept of anything more complicated than cutting and pasting from Kos, and that took me months to figure out. I was the first in my family to make it past 6th grade....to 7th grade. Mom was so proud.

'Cassandra _ I work for Romney's campaign and I come here every day for ideas from you. thanks for your help.'

Why thank you, Jim. Your waffling, flippflopping, dog torturing candidate needs all the help he can get.

Don't fret mikeB. these are the people who tried to tell you about a country they've never been to. While your standing on the soil.

They are propogandists. They are george bush's lawyers. They show their face everytime. It's all about money to them. Their children are not as stupid and greedy as they are. they will stand with us. Sad. I feel sorry for them

"Having a bit of trouble sticking with the singular for an entire sentence, eh numbnuts?"

the upper limit for LV intellect. don't forget to send 3 bears your alumni check, they need the money. you must get such immense satisfaction from your wordly contributions to this blog. I can only guess that you must be some sort of failed insult comic. you succeed in insulting on every single post you have ever written but the failure comes in being funny.

and the market is sodden with angry, nasty, insulting Libs. there are, however plenty of openings for bright, succint, creative, intelligent, thoughful ones. In fact, none have been found yet.

I want the lowest possible consumer price, which is achieved by market competition.'

LOL--gee, why do all the gas companies charge exactly the same price?

preK Lib - aka KOZ-William-anon-Razorback-village idiot; it makes a whole more more sense to pay attention to the ideas expressed than to spelling and grammatical errors. There are plenty of people here (you posts being exhibit "A") who spell well but blather on and on with arguments that have the logical connectedness of a pile of straw.

And Zouk, if you really think Joe Biden and Dennis Kucinich have the same policy ideas, you just haven't been paying attention.

Specify. Kucinich is simply more honest and open about it. the others wouold say and do it if they had the nerve to tell the truth. Can you construct a compare and contrast so we may consider your claim?

for example, on the war, we have stay until we win (McCain) and leave now regardless of consequences (Paul). On abortion we have Rudy vs the rest. On immigration we have McCain vs the rest.

In contrast you have Edwards - raise taxes and spend vs hillary (I will do that after you vote).

preklib/zouk: "When someone is bragging about their educational achievements in the same sentence they exhibit grammatical and stylistic faults, they have it coming."

Having a bit of trouble sticking with the singular for an entire sentence, eh numbnuts?

Jim - don't look now, but it's time to change the sacred underwear again. Of course, you could always let one of your wives do it...

When someone is bragging about their educational achievements in the same sentence they exhibit grammatical and stylistic faults, they have it coming. Otherwise I never fault grammar or spelling, even when it is totally unintelligible, like you know who.

That last line should have been "Of course, that's nothing new."

You're right, Rufus. I didn't watch Live Earth because I was scared. The concept of sitting through a Madonna or Police concert terrifies me. And I'm fairly sure that my head actually would explode if I had to listen to Linkin Park or the other artists you listed.

And Zouk, if you really think Joe Biden and Dennis Kucinich have the same policy ideas, you just haven't been paying attention. Not that anything else is new.

Cassandra _ I work for Romney's campaign and I come here every day for ideas from you. thanks for your help.

Tarheel: yes, but in the '90's we were at peace, respected around the world, and the budget was (in later years) IN SURPLUS. Also, quite honestly, the stuff you cite does not hold a candle to lying the country into the mose disastrous foreign policy mistake of our lifetime, and I include Vietnam.

prekLib (Zouk): are you really criticizing someone for their use of grammar. you has been wrong Before, and you is now also.

I know they arn't investing. No one is investing in new refineries. Under normal circumstances, high profits causes investment which increases supply which reduces prices.

This is not happening because of environmental regulations, not because oil companies that you say are greedy are voluntarily not investing money, which would make them more money.

"all rightiwngers sound alike, talk about exactly the same things in exactly the same language. "

that may be true of rightwingers but not of the GOP party. On the other hand, it is absolutely true of all the current Dem candidates who can't be distingusihed based on any policy. they all agree on everything. and so do their supporters. call them left wing or mainstream Libs if you like. pick any issue and you will find 100% adherance to the Lib line; Abortion - on demand, taxes - raise them, government - expand, war - lose it, education - do nothing, immigration - open up, retirement - do nothing, medicare spend, spend, spend,.

the GOPS actually have well-thought and and diverse views on all of these subjects. It is hard to find one on which everyone agrees. consider that the leading candidate is gay friendly and abortion tolerant. How closed-minded of those wingers. but all those great open-minded and free thinking Libs just magically came to the exact same solution to every problem in the world. Hmmmm. It boggles the mind, unless you're a Lib of course, then it makes perfect sense. Uh huh.

Maybe you had better stick with the chanting considering what actual analysis does to your mantras.

"Seriously, the obsession with celebrities doesn't fall along liberal/conservative lines. Both sides love to be represented by celebrities, because celebrities can get peoples' attention."

wHO SAW bILL o'ReILLY TRYING HIS hardest to get Bruce Willis to come out as a conservative. Fox does it all day. This has nothign to do witht he convo. us want the gop'ers to mentally realize how big hypocrites thye are.

Woodstack? Ever hear of that? Did it have an impact on america? Live Earth was woodstock X20. I know your scared. I bet you couldn't watch more than 5 minutes of it. It hurt you, pyhscailly didn't it? Veins busting out. It's only in your head. Come with us. Join humanity. The borg are lying robots. Join humanity :)

"Seriously, the obsession with celebrities doesn't fall along liberal/conservative lines. Both sides love to be represented by celebrities, because celebrities can get peoples' attention."

wHO SAW bILL o'ReILLY TRYING HIS hardest to get Bruce Willis to come out as a conservative. Fox does it all day. This has nothign to do witht he convo. us want the gop'ers to mentally realize how big hypocrites thye are.

Woodstack? Ever hear of that? Did it have an impact on america? Live Earth was woodstock X20. I know your scared. I bet you could watch more than 5 minutes of it. It hurt you, pyhscailly didn't it? Veins busting out. It's only in your head. Come with us. Join humanity. The borg are lying robots. Join humanity :)

"Seriously, the obsession with celebrities doesn't fall along liberal/conservative lines. Both sides love to be represented by celebrities, because celebrities can get peoples' attention."

wHO SAW bILL o'ReILLY TRYING HIS hardest to get Bruce Willis to come out as a conservative. Fox does it all day. This has nothign to do witht he convo. us want the gop'ers to mentally realize how big hypocrites thye are.

Woodstack? Ever hear of that? Did it have an impact on america? Live Earth was woodstock X20. I know your scared. I bet you could watch more than 5 minutes of it. It hurt you, pyhscailly didn't it? Veins busting out. It's only in your head. Come with us. Join humanity. The borg are lying robots. Join humanity :)

I wonder why all the liberals arnt falling over themselves to support Dingle's carbon tax, which is needed to save the planet.

I hope you liberals are smiling after the democrats, who said they would lower gas prices, raise them.

"New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a Democrat, touted an "Apollo program" -- referring to the 1960s effort that put men on the moon -- that would reduce dependence on foreign oil by more than half and reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent.

During the Republican presidential debate in New Hampshire two days later, many candidates said much the same thing.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican, also called for an "Apollo program" and said reducing foreign dependence on oil was intrinsically tied to national security.

"It's frustrating and really dangerous for us to see money going to our enemies because we have to buy oil from certain countries," he said. "We should be supporting all the alternatives."

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican, said oil companies ought to play a part in rebuilding old infrastructure, which would increase efficiency and possibly reduce costs.

"Big oil is making a lot of money right now, and I'd like to see them using that money to invest in refineries," Romney said. "Don't forget that when companies earn profit, that money's supposed to be reinvested in growth and our refineries are old."

Funny how Rudy rips off Richardson -- and Romney says exactly what I said. Oil companies are not reinvesting because they don't want to bother and they don't have to. Even some republicans understand that.

The only person who makes arguments similar to mine is JD, and he hasn't posted at all today. I havn't posted for weeks, prior to today. An idiot like drindle never lets facts get in the way of an ideological conclusion, no matter how stupid it is. An idiot like drindle almost never participates in a factual debate, because she doesn't know anything.

MikeB -- There's ample room for disagreement, but JimD most definitely is not an apologist for neocons and is ALWAYS civil in debating the issues. I would encourage you to read some of his posts again before making that kind of an attack. He's a good guy, even when he disagrees with me. :)

(CNN) -- In late June, the U.S. Senate passed an energy bill that would raise gas mileage standards for the first time in 20 years and fund research on alternative energy sources.

High gas prices and low mileage are among the factors behind an apparent shift in the nation's energy debate.

The bill's proponents call it a breakthrough in the nation's energy debate, saying the focus is shifting from reliance on fossil fuels and foreign oil toward renewable fuels and green technology.

The measure comes amid another summer of high gas prices, state and local conservation efforts and a presidential campaign where voters and candidates say the issue is key.

A recent analysis by the Gallup Poll showed energy as Americans' fourth most-important priority for Washington, below Iraq, terrorism and national security, and the economy.

The analysis also showed a majority of Americans prefer energy conservation over more production, and that a large majority also favors tightening emissions standards and developing alternative sources of energy.

Only a moron would think that I use any talking points from anyone, least of all big oil companies. I oppose subsidies to big oil companies. I would have opposed the oil subsidies in the 2005 Energy Policy Act, even though someone as liberal as Barack Obama voted for them.

Refining has been done for over 100 years. Big oil companies and big airline companies have access to cash and access to expertise. They don't build refineries because it takes forever to permit them and to build them, and if permitted, you get years of lawsuits. Who would want to commit investment under those circumstances? Liberal regulations raise gas prices.

I am pro-consumer. I want the lowest possible consumer price, which is achieved by market competition.

'You know, there are some perfectly good medications available today that work for people with multiple personalities.... (Of course, they don't work for people with no personality, but that's another problem).'

You're right, MikeB, but with these people you don't know whether they're the same person or not because all rightiwngers sound alike, talk about exactly the same things in exactly the same language. Rush doesn't call them ditthoheads for nothing. Pathetic how proud they are to be called parrots by their god. Funny though.

Of course, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity couldn't stop babbling abou thatt Live whatever it was show. I don't pay attention to celebrities myself. But they used exactly the same talking points that we have seen reproduced here.

a good representation of the Lib constituency here today. you can say and do anything to fool these imbeciles. you can make 11% profit and be labeled a gouger by al gore at 200% profit on a fake science. you can almost eliminate unemployment with tax breaks and proper managment of the economy and be labeled incompetent by eurotrash.

but if you pardon an entire raft of crooks, that is business as usual. If you lie under oath, that is a vendetta against you, the VRWC. If you ignore an enemy who wants to kill you, that is fun with an intern. If you want to do it all again, that is Liberalism. If anyone chalenges you on your stupidity, call them stupid instead.

Peace Mom for speaker.

'Cassandra, why havnt big rich airlines, big rich trucking companies, and other big rich companies who buy more energy than anyone else built their own refineries?'

Why don't vets build pharmaceutical factories? What a stupid question. It takes expertise and a good deal of cash. And what big rich airlines are you talking about? They're all hurting for various reasons.
'
but only a moron would suggest that I don't have a great deal of policy knowledge.'

Only a moron would think you have more than a collection of phony talking points for oil companies.

Why don't big airlines and big trucking companies build refineries? They are buy the most fuel. Are they in on the nutty collusion conspiracy? And what about the Democrats appointed to the FTC by Democratic Senators? Are they a part of the collusion conspiracy?

Can you find ONE economist who states that the price increase which results from witholding supply offsets the profits lost because of lower quantity sold?

Of course you cannot. You live in your ignorant little ideological world, and do not want to think.

Who's digging up old scandals? There are plenty from 2007 to enjoy.

Washington Post. Democrats Offer Up Chairmen For Donors: Party's Campaigns Had Faulted GOP For 'Selling Access' By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and John Solomon, Washington Post Staff Writers, February 24, 2007; Page A01.

New York Times. Former Democratic Leader in Brooklyn Is Convicted, By Anemona Hartocollis, Published: February 24, 2007. Clarence Norman Jr., leader of the Brooklyn Democratic Party, the biggest Democratic organization east of Chicago, since 1990, was convicted February 23 of coercion, grand larceny by extortion and attempted grand larceny by extortion in what prosecutors said was a scheme to shake down judicial candidates in exchange for party support.

New York Times. Rhode Island: Ex-Lawmaker Gets More Prison Time, by Katie Zezima, Published: February 21, 2007. Former Democratic State Senator John Celona, who was sentenced last month to two and a half years in federal prison for taking corporate payoffs, was sentenced to an additional year and a half in prison after pleading no contest to similar state charges. Celona will serve the sentences concurrently starting on March 2.

Black Pleads Guilty to Corruption Charges - Took $25,000 from chiropractors for influence, by Paul Chesser, Carolina Journal, February 16, 2007. Jim Black, North Carolina Democratic Speaker of the House, last week pleaded guilty to taking about $29,000, mostly in cash, from some chiropractors, is looking at a 10-year maximum and a possible $250,000 fine. He also committed crimes related to the state lottery and allowing a lobbyist to use his office and resources. But to lighten his sentence, Black has agreed to name other corrupt Democrats.

From www.northnewjersey.com -- Federal probe divides Trenton, Tuesday, February 13, 2007, by John P. McAlpin and Mitchel Maddux-Trenton Bureau. Democrats are refusing to release documents related to a federal probe on how millions in public funds were handed out over the last three years of the Democratic party controlled legislature. Among those who received subpoenas were Senate President Richard Codey D-Essex Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny D-Hudson Assembly Speaker Joseph Roberts D-Camden and Assembly Majority Leader Bonnie Watson Coleman D-Mercer, legislative officials confirmed. This may be the biggest state-wide scandal ever once it's done.

'Cassandra , you are suggesting that oil companies withold supply from the market to increase prices, thereby profiting more.'

Please don't make me laugh.And don't tell me there's no collusion. The FTC investigates and doesn't find a problem? Who's in the FTC now? Former lobbyists. Gee, no wonder they don't see a problem.

Remember Enron? Remember the great phony California energy crisis they engendered? They do it all the time.

Please take your phony economic stats elsewhere. The truth is obvious to anyone with a brain. But clearly that's not you.

'The reason refineries havnt been built is because of environmental regulations.'

More BS. They don't build refineries because they don't need or want to. Why should they, when they continue to rake in enormous profits just by price-gouging? Why rock the gravy boat?

The Soviet Union and the world Communist movement will triumph over the evil capitalists in the United State. I know this to be true because I read it in Pravda. Pravda is Russion for "truth". I am so sophisticated.

preK klown: do you really think anyone (other than your fellow droolers) is impressed that a few thousand brain-dead morons in Texas and a couple hundred brain-dead hacks in Washington cast votes for this piece of garbage?

Come on, McFly.

preK Lib - So, now its KOZ-Zuk-William-Trotski-AND-...Razorback. You know, there are some perfectly good medications available today that work for people with multiple personalities.... (Of course, they don't work for people with no personality, but that's another problem).

Here is a pretty fair analysis of the situation we find ourselves in, with the lobbying charges against Thompson.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjMwMDExOTlhMzg2Mzc3MDEwNjUwZDIzNDEyZjc2MzM=

As the piece states, what makes it hard is that the "he said, she said" splits down party lines.

"my education is many times superior"

clearly not an english major

Tom Delay became an ....Majority Leader of the US House of Representatives....
Yep, quite a record of achievement

Not a logic based education either huh fool?

considering this is your level of discourse "whereas you rightwingnut lemmings worship great intellectuals like Tom Delay. nitwit" One can only guess you went to three bears kiddie kollege for your degree.

Another article from that same German paper that MikeB cited:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2648360,00.html

"The Nuremberg-based Federal Labor Agency said that the number of jobless dropped by 37,000 in seasonally adjusted terms to 3.82 million this month with the unemployment rate edging down to 9.1 percent and job vacancies increasing."

But as MikeB has said, we should be careful about comparing unemployment rates between countries. The US rate doesn't factor in people who have stopped looking for work. If the German and other EU rates do factor in those people, then their rates will always be higher than ours.

MikeB

Where do you think I got the GERMAN GOVERNMENT unemployment statistics from?

Yes their unemployment rate is falling but it is still 8.8% for June.

Gov. Ed Rendell shut down the Pennsylvania government late Sunday over a budget stalemate with the Legislature that partly hinges on his energy plan for the state.

Among the key sticking points are raising the state's debt ceiling and an energy plan that Rendell has insisted the Legislature approve before he signs.

"We have a $650 million surplus in Pennsylvania," said Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi, a Republican. "There's absolutely no reason why we can't have a budget agreement. We could have had a budget earlier but for these ancillary issues."

The centerpiece of Rendell's energy plan would place a surcharge on electricity use for a fund for alternative energy programs and electricity conservation.

In a typical liberal move, Rendell wants force the bill for going green onto taxpayers while blaming the Rs who place fiscal honesty above politcal pandering.

proudtobeGOP: and with all that education, Tom Delay became an exterminator -- and failed at that. Yep, quite a record of achievement.

While I haven't served ten terms in Congress, neither have you, and my education is many times superior to Delay's.

As for Madonna, who I really have no interest in whatsoever, she has sold tens of millions of records. You haven't. So I guess you're a complete loser.

I see dead people too. and they talk to me.....about politics.

I can see into the future. Of course, MikeB has a source for his riduculous statement that the European press says that US unemployment is some astronomical amount. The problem is, its in a different language, was seen only by MikeB, and is not available on the internet. Yeah right, whatever.

So if you throw out the old corrupt socialist and bring in a new conservative, the result is that unemployment goes down. Even in germany and France. and who is surprised by this????? It looks like even in europe the give-away socialism is coming to an end. Let's hope we're next and Hillary stumbles bad or the american voter discovers the truth about Dem pols in the next few months.

In case you were wondering the truth is that Dems/Libs will say and do anything to get your vote and then totally disregard all that to maintain power once in. this last election is a classic example of this.

Sorry I misunderstood this extremely complex point, Trotsky. Let me see if I've got this:

1. Actors are stupid. Never listen to what they have to say.
2. It's okay to elect an actor governor, or even president. Once elected, that actor is worthy of respect.

Right?

Seriously, the obsession with celebrities doesn't fall along liberal/conservative lines. Both sides love to be represented by celebrities, because celebrities can get peoples' attention. A few months ago, some conservative blogs were all excited that a terrible rap-metal band called Stuck Mojo seemed to be endorsing their politics. In 2004, a B-list actor was a major speaker at the Republican Convention. Then there's Charleton Heston, president of the NRA.

There are more celebrities who support liberal causes, because most celebrities are liberal. But when celebrities support conservative causes, conservatives love to have them. It's true on both sides.

JimD in FL - You're defended by Razorback? Isn't that rather like lying dwon with dogs and waking up with fleas? Since you're so big on looking up news, here's a few cites FROM GERMANY.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2463280,00.html

As for the newspaper articles I spoke of, they were from newspapers I was reading in Germany and Austria while there. I don't quote them, specifically, becasue they were in German and I figure someone as ignorant of the rest of the world as our right wing bloggers here don't understand foreign languages (and, as evidenced by Razorback's posts, don't understand English either) and becasue it is a waste of time because the right is so locked into their fairy tales as delivered by Fox, they wont allow reality to waken them from their dream.

blarg says "Get some laws passed to actually do something ..., and then I'll care"

FThompson is (potentially) doing just that, blarg. He and others who make an effort to serve the country through the legislative process do a whole helluva lot more for the country than all the whiny-a** celebrities in the world combined, with a very few exceptions.

I stated way up there that you can only expect phony stats from Mike B. that is most likely why he is an out of work engineer. Engineering usually depends on a facility with numbers, not numeric fraud. don't waste your time. Just examine the tone of his remarks for all you need to know.

blarg, you m issed the entire concept. electing actors is different from waiting for their approval before buying into something. why would someone who plays guitar or sings be expected to know anything more than average about just about anything but music? do the dixie chicks inform you on foreign policy. It would seem so. and the resulting deduction is that they know more than you do. A sad state of affairs for your party.

If money isn't imporant Rufus, tell Edwards to shut up about poverty, tell the NAACP to shut up about discrimination, shut up about the minimum wage and go back to a cave an trade coconuts for sharp stones.

MikeB

No one who has read the body of my posts over the last year or so could ever find a rational basis to call me an apologist for the neo-cons.

US unemployment statistics are widely accepted by economists of all political leanings. As with any statistic, they have their shortcomings but being off by a factor of more than 3 is not one of them. German government statistics put German unemployment at almost twice US unemployment. I will not argue with you about the benefits of the European welfare states. They provide a degree of economic security we do not have in the US. They certainly do take better care of the less fortunate. There are also many advantages to 5 weeks paid vacation. However, these benefits come with trade offs and lower economic growth is one of them. There are many health and welfare indicators that show Europeans better off than Americans. This is especially true in the smaller, more homogenous societies like the Netherlands and the Scandanavian countries.

To shay Blarg. Good one. What Hypocrites they are.

I feel you mikeB. Ignore him. Normal people don't do this. Normal people don't defend criminals. Normal people don't APPROVE bad behavoir by digging up the past. They are not nromal. They are shakin in their little botties. Remember how tough they were before the 06 elections. Hwo did they act the next day? Deer in headlights? Imagine after they lose ALL power. No president no congress. Imagine that. Play time is over. Laws are back in effect coming 08.

If they were REAL americans they would be happy. As they only care about money they are terrified. "The dems are going to take all my money". You people trying lies and propoganda. It failed. We now see your game. Any post/answer will not do anymore. We need truth.

Good luck Razor/gop. Your done for my lifetime. You just don't knwo it yet. Please listen. WE'RE trying to bring you in. Forget about your money for a second. Money is nothing but little pieces of paper you greedy little piggies. Much evil has been done in the name of money over the last 100 years. Stop defending MONEY. I knowMoney is your god you worship. ATM's at churches and all. God pities you. He wants you back. It starts with burning that money. Try it. It may liberate you. You will be free. Try it. Just burn one dollar. Get yourself back.

JimDinFL, the last time I debated European unemployment with MikeB, his last refuge was to quote a foreign language newspaper that didn't exist, and to thereafter insist that he had a legitimate source.

JimDinFL, you must understand that anything that tends to disprove a conspiracy has been planted by the conspiracy to conceal its existence.

Pardoning Libby bad, pardoning child rapist, good, Mormon Romney bad, Mormon Harry Reid good, Bush reading email of terrorists bad, Penn (Clinton pollster) reading email of competitors good, subsidies to big oil bad, subsidies for big oil for use in already existing big oil alternative energy programs good, restrictions on liberty to prevent terrorism bad, restrictions on liberty for health (TB man good), Clinton's private life private, Guilianis private life not private, congressional subpeonas to Clinton bad, congressional subpeonas to Bush good, "fairness doctrine" for Rush good, "fairness doctrine" for Daily Kos bad, hedge funds bad, John Edwards/Chelsea Clinton hedge funds good, Imus hate speech bad, Rosie O hate speech good, Clinton kid off limits, Thompson kids not, gang banging Crips innocent until provent guilty, nutty conspiracy theories without proof, guilty until proven innocent, Dem corporate contributions show of great support, Repub corporate contributions, show of special interest ownership, hypocrits hypocrits hypocrits

"That liberals place so much value in the phony pleadings from actors and entertainers is telling. Your arguments are so bereft of merit that it takes celebrity status to convince the masses."

Proud, did you notice the article at the top of the page? It discusses the millions of dollars Republicans have donated to Fred Thompson, a minor player on "Law and Order", in his bid for president. They give him money because he reminds them of a previous actor turned Republican president, Ronald Reagan. Before Reagan was president, he was governor of California, a position currently held by another Republican actor.

So which party pays too much attention to actors again?

MikeB,

You really irritated me with the personal attacks. I have done more research and found the German government web site with the German government's unemployment statistics. June's stats are available and it is 8.8%. Of course, this could be the Bush-Clinton conspiracy extending to the German government.

http://www.destatis.de/jetspeed/portal/cms/Sites/destatis/Internet/EN/Content/Statistics/TimeSeries/EconomicIndicators/LabourMarket/Content75/arb210a,templateId=renderPrint.psml

Terrorism is a term used to describe violence or other harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians by groups or persons for political or other ideological goals.[1] Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target "non-combatants".

As a form of unconventional warfare, terrorism is sometimes used when attempting to force political change by: convincing a government or population to agree to demands to avoid future harm or fear of harm, destabilization of an existing government, motivating a disgruntled population to join an uprising, escalating a conflict in the hopes of disrupting the status quo, expressing a grievance, or drawing attention to a cause.

Terrorism has been used by a broad array of political organizations in furthering their objectives; both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic, and religious groups, revolutionaries and ruling governments.[2] The presence of non-state actors in widespread armed conflict has created controversy regarding the application of the laws of war.

An International Roundtable on Constructing Peace, Deconstructing Terror (2004) hosted by Strategic Foresight Group recommended that a distinction should be made between terrorism and acts of terror. While acts of terror are criminal acts as per the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373 and domestic jurisprudence of almost all countries in the world, terrorism refers to a phenomenon including acts, perpetrators of acts of terror and motives of the perpetrators. There is a disagreement on definition of terrorism. However, there is an intellectual consensus globally that acts of terror should not be accepted under any circumstances. This is reflected in all important conventions including the United Nations counter terrorism strategy, outcome of the Madrid Conference on terrorism and outcome of the Strategic Foresight Group and ALDE roundtables at the European Parliament."

tHAT'S WHY SUCH ANOMOSITY mIKEb. I feel you. if the dems were doing the same things I would be all over them myselves. I have to think it is becase stocks are high. You know republicans only care about money. Little pieces of paper over country and countrymen. Treason? You be the judge.

"In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

Traitor may also mean a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, nation, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, social class, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge. See, for example, race traitor."

badgerone - I suppose ou don't read much. I'm a liberal and a Democrat and I post critical remarks about the current crop of Democratic candidates all of the time. I can only contrast this with the lock step defense of Republican candidates I see here. Furthermore, I listen to Air America and they simply pounded Rep. Jefferson and Murtha, they are critical of Hillary Clinton and Senator Kennedy and their apparent lack of concern about Amercian workers in the illegal immigrant and H1-B visa debates. You will never see anything like that on Fox or read it in a right wing rag like the WSJ.

amazing, the worlds biggest company makes the most money. Libs think this is evil. when it is pointed out that profit is traditionally quoted in percentage terms to be able to compare, Libs ignore that and fall back to chanting "biggest profit ever, aaaoooogah". thus demonstrating no grasp of even the most simple economic terms and conditions. then they want to engage in a shouting fest about who is stupider. I think that answer is pretty obvious. al gore good, corporations bad. Ug.

BLah blah blah razor. Live Earth. Live Earth Live Earth :)

I know your scared. If you had the courage to watch it that is. Which I'm sure you don't. I can watch Fox "news". Can you watch anything other than fox news?

Obviouly no. Sorry about that. Jsut don't come on here trying to talk about that which you have no concept. If you only watch fox and listen to rush you are only gettign ahalf the story. What will you do without your avatars?

"In Hindu philosophy, an avatar (also spelt as avatara) (Sanskrit: अवतार, avatāra), most commonly refers to the incarnation (bodily manifestation) of a higher being (deva), or the Supreme Being (God) onto planet Earth. The Sanskrit word avatāra- literally means "descent" (avatarati) and usually implies a deliberate descent into lower realms of existence for special purposes. The term is used primarily in Hinduism, for incarnations of Vishnu whom many Hindus worship as God. Shiva and Ganesha are also described as descending in the form of avatars, with the Ganesha Purana and the Mudgala Purana detailing Ganesha's avatars specifically.

The word has also been used by extension to refer to the incarnations of God or highly influential teachers in other religions, especially by adherents to dharmic traditions when explaining figures such as Jesus or Mohammed."

You misinterpret my reasoning. The question here is "did Thompson lobby for pro-choice issues?" That is all I am interested in seeing evidence on. A "he said, she said" argument is not enough in today's political climate, I want documented proof. And if he did lobby, there should be detailed records.

Do you have a link to the claim that someone saw records in Sununu's office that showed Thompson lobbied?

Whether he was once pro-choice, or federalist, or libertarian, or pro-life (as his voting record seems to reflect) is another matter. I am focused on ascertaining what the truth on this lobbying claim is.

loudone voter- Unlike your vaunted celebrities, Rep. Delay actually has had higher education; he attended Baylor University, has a degree from the University of Houston, and was elected by his constituents to 10 consecutive terms in Congress. You have not.

That liberals place so much value in the phony pleadings from actors and entertainers is telling. Your arguments are so bereft of merit that it takes celebrity status to convince