Just posting one side and not the other is not very journalistic of you.

If you are going to give us your candidates argument would it not be fair to also post Dr. Paul's argument in it's entirety?

You paraphrased to remove credence and that makes you a stooge. If you had any journalism in you, rather than an agenda, you would now repost this article without paraphrasing.

Here is the transcript. Judge for yourselves.

HUCKABEE: We have to continue the surge, and let me explain why, Chris. When I was a little kid, if I went into a store with my mother, she had a simple rule for me: If I picked something off the shelf at the store and I broke it, I bought it. I learned I don't pick something off the shelf I can't afford to buy.

Well, what we did in Iraq, we essentially broke it. It's our responsibility to do the best we can to try to fix it before we just turn away. Because something is a stake.

HUCKABEE: Senator McCain made a great point -- and let me make this clear: If there's anybody on this stage that understands the word honor, I've got to say Senator McCain understands that word...

(APPLAUSE)

... because he has given his country a sacrifice the rest of us don't even comprehend.

And on this issue, when he says we can't leave until we've left with honor, I 100 percent agree with him because, Congressman, whether or not we should have gone to Iraq is a discussion the historians can have, but we're there.

We bought it because we broke it. We've got a responsibility to the honor of this country and to the honor of every man and woman who has served in Iraq and ever served in our military to not leave them with anything less than the honor that they deserve.

PAUL: Can I respond...

(APPLAUSE)

HUME (?): Go ahead. You wanted to respond. He just addressed you. You go ahead and respond.

PAUL: The American people didn't go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy. They're responsible, not the American people. They're not responsible. We shouldn't punish them.

(APPLAUSE)

HUCKABEE: Congressman, we are one nation. We can't be divided. We have to be one nation, under god. That means if we make a mistake, we make it as a single country: the United States of America, not the divided states of America.

(APPLAUSE)

PAUL: No, when we make a mistake -- when we make a mistake, it is the obligation of the people, through their representatives, to correct the mistake, not to continue the mistake.

(APPLAUSE)

HUCKABEE: And that's what we do on the floor of the Senate.

PAUL: No, we've dug a hole for ourselves and we've dug a hole for our party. We're losing elections and we're going down next year if we don't change it, and it has all to do with foreign policy and we have to wake up to this fact.

HUCKABEE: Even if we lose elections, we should not lose our honor, and that is more important (inaudible) the Republican Party.

(APPLAUSE)

PAUL: We have lost over 5,000 Americans killed in -- we've lost over 5,000 Americans over there in Afghanistan, in Iraq and plus the civilians killed. How many more you want to lose? How long are you going to be there?

How long -- what do we have to pay to save face? That's all we're doing, is saving face. It's time we came home.

(APPLAUSE)

HUME: Gentleman, thank you.

Mr. Cillizza ~ You sir are out of touch. Paul clearly put Huckabee in his place.

"A very nice moment for Huckabee"

What was even nicer was Paul's response. Too bad you did not have the guts to post it.

I am sorry but Ron Paul is not running for president of Iraq, they elected their own president didn't they? And in doing so it is THEIR responsibility to clean their own house, not mine, or yours, our our soldiers.

You folks have it all wrong in my opinion. Iraq has it's own government and didn't Bush declare 'mission accomplished'? If our mission is accomplished why are we there, why are we even debating this?

Let them all kill each other for all I care, it is not the responsibility of our federal governmet to play house maid to a bunch of idiots who can't and won't get along with each other no matter how much we wish they would.

Here is an idea for all of you who want to run around the world fising things, join the peace corps, or the red cross, or whatever other private organization you think is fit to police the world and clean up the messes. Don't think that you have the right to my money or my children to do your dirty work for you.

When a man of reason (Ron Paul) speaks and takes the constitutional position and you hear AMERICANS booing it kind of makes you wonder about the state of America doens't it? You war hawk freaks are on your way out one way or another. If you nominate anyone other than Ron Paul we will leave anyway because the democrats will win. And if the democrats won't leave they will be voted out.

Face it, we are leaving eventually anyway. We are not going to stop the sectarian fighting no matter how much you think we are or how many more Americans die trying to do it.

What will bring peace to the region is when they kill off enough of their own people that they finaly decide to stop the maddnes on their own. Don't you get that?

Middle eastern people seem to be insane in that way, they hate each other even more than they hate us! All we have done is taken their gloves off for them and if you don't see that then please buy a plane ticket and go and wave your flag in the streets of Baghdad and proclaim that you are there to save them from themselves, but you better have a bullet proof vest on when you do it....

Ron Paul won, he will win the presidency and he deserves to do so. Why? Because he is the only candiate who thinks for himself.

He takes his marching orders from the constitution and the people, not from defense contractor war hawks who line the pockets of most in Washington.

Get over it, it's a lost cause and he is the only person with the guts to tell you so.

I agreed with Ron Paul and felt he won the debate. This war was and continues to be a mistake and we should leave as quickly as feasibly possible. So do most Americans. All I hear from the Republicans is that we have to stay in Iraq to save face and protect our honor. Sorry, we lost respect and honor when we invaded Iraq. Now is the time to learn from our mistakes and move on. If the Republicans can't see that then they deserve to lose the next election.

Where do personal responsibility and national responsibility begin and end? Is Ron Paul's argument that because the war was not his idea, he is not responsible for the results of a withdrawal plan?

Where does Huckabee draw the line? Do we owe reparations to the Iraqi people for civilian deaths, property destruction, and the reduction in quality of life that has resulted from our "broken" policy?

Do progressives have moral reservations about how we now get out?

http://wecouldbefamous.blogspot.com/

Chris:

You missed the boat on your analysis of the Paul/Huckabee exchange. Paul was the winner but your poor reporting would have your readers believe otherwise.

I'm tired of the tired "we-abandoned-VN-and-look-what-happened" failed analogy. The mass killings after we left VN were the result of our having been there for over a decade. Or do you support W's contention that the way to have avoided it was to continue the occupation for a few more decades? The civil war in Iraq will play itself out whether we try to stop it or not. Here's a thought- would a British invasion and occupation of America in 1860 have solved our slavery problems? The hard fact is that whatever happened post VN occupation, the country is now stable and an economic partner.

Ray, if you're willing to vote for Hillary so we can keep wasting billions on intelligence agencies that allowed 9-11 happen, then you're no conservative at all. Period.

Neocon maybe, no real conservative.

Huckabee got some press from his statements,but the fact is Ron Paul is right. Real conservatives,like Ron Paul, use the constitution as there political authority. Huckabee and the rest of the republican candidates are not conservative they are just typical politicians.

I felt dirty actually tuning into FOX News but was well rewarded with perhaps the best debate yet. Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee ran away with this debate.

After the debate, FOX News ran a text message poll to determine the winner and Paul won in a landslide. Hannity dismissed the results as Paul supporters voting multiple times. I tried voting twice and received a response from FOX saying I could only vote once. The media needs to wake up - Ron Paul is not a wacko fringe candidate.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Democrats will soundly beat whomever the Republicans put forth, and Paul was correct last night when he explained why. Huckabee is wrong. Continuing a war that 70% of Americans disagree with can in no shape or form result in a united America.

From a blog I read this morning http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/09/ron-paul-this-is-man-take-notes.html:

"By now it should be obvious even to the most insensate observer that the Republican Party -- with the heroic exception of Ron Paul and a few over whom he's had a healthy influence -- is a fascist cult. Witness Herr Huckabee's invocation of "ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Fuhrer" as a riposte to Paul's irrefutable logic. (The same purported Christian, incidentally, is down with the Mark of the Beast, calling for a human inventory control system to track people like packages.)

...

Think of it: Herr Huckabee's position is that Americans literally have a moral obligation to kill and die on behalf of a mistake: "Honor" requires no less.

Wow. Do the Paul backers realize how angry they sound? He's got no chance whatsoever in this race, and it has nothing to do with rigging races, or people laughing at him. He's to the right of even Pat Buchanan! There comes a point when you're vision is so out of the mainstream, that no one in the middle can identify at all with your views. I'm not saying that the frontrunners are very good, as Romney and Giuliani seem so wooden and robotic (almost "Algoreish"). These guys are so scripted that it scares me what we will really get in the long run. I know Mike Huckabee has little to no chance, but at least the guy is out there swinging punches with everything he's got. Don't give me the he's too nice comment, because that's a cop-out. I would vote for him over any of the 15 or so other options out there. At least his answers actually say something responsible, unlike Romney, Rudy, McCain, Hilary, Obama, or the Edwards. Go Mike Go!

This country needs Mike Huckabee right now. Ron Paul came off to me as nearly insane. He wants to get rid of the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security. Are you kidding? This, along with his weak stand in the Middle East, and outright lies about Iran, show that he's weak on national security. As far right as I am, I'd vote for Hillary or Obama before Ron Paul. They'd actually do less damage. Amazing. And the Fair Tax is awesome! I'd love to see us adapt the Fair tax! Vote Huckabee!

Ron Paul scores again! I am a staunch conservative and Ron Paul is the only one in this group who is a conservative. The rest are big government in sheep's clothing. They continue to ignore the fact that this is an unconstitional war and it is not a war that we (or anyone else) can win.
Since when has it become a "weird idea" to do away with intrusive government and unconstitional policies.
I am backing Ron Paul all the way and if he doesn't get the nomination (which he probably won't because the process is rigged) I hope that he will pull out and run Libertarian.
Shame on the Republicans for laughing at Paul a man of integrity and right thinking (pun intended).

The only true conservative among the candidates is Ron Paul. I can safely assume that the other candidates are not ignorant, given that all have had reasonable success in their lives, I believe they are purposefully ignoring our Constitution with their arguments and stances on many of the issues in the race. It sickens me that the leaders of the GOP have abandoned the principles which made the party and our country great. If the majority of the candidates intend not to abide by the Constitution maybe they should openly advocate for the removal of it as the basis of our laws. Of course that would be foolish to advocate, yet based on the positions of the candidates they might as well do so.

Ron Paul wants peace for this country of ours, of that there can be no doubt. And he knows how to get it too. The Washington Post served as a cheerleader for the Bush Administration's immoral invasion of Iraq and now they play the fool once again for Bush's evil design to bomb Iran. Last night Ron Paul was the only Republican to reject Brit Hume's attempt to whip up support for the coming war with Iran.

Well, if your position in the race is whipping boy for candidates trying to get ahead, it might be time to call it a day. Ron Paul's never going to be president, and he's not even influencing the debate anymore except to bolster opponents who disagree with him. It's time to be fair to his backers and stop accepting their money; it'd be spent just as well if it was thrown out a window at this point.

Screw Huckabee - I forcefully denounced this war beginning 2002, and I bare no responsibility for it what-so-ever. This is Bush's War and if the Republicans want to perpetuate it, then it can be solely their war as well.

Huckabee is, at this point, the incumbent Vice President for Guiliani. It's probably too late for Huckabee to catch fire and take the nomination as Prez, but he is now, in the context of this race, a rising star. As for Romney, more air escapes from his balloon every time he opens his mouth. Is it really possible that this time, for once, the Republicans won't nominate the Manchurian Candidate???

The exchange the two candidates had was more detailed than the one line from Paul and two from Huckabee as outlined here. You fail to mention entire segments. Poor job explaining the best part of the debate.

Paul commanded the exchange even if its disguised in your blog. Showing only a fraction of the dialog is perhaps misleading.

"moderate views of the top three" ???

Moderate views like continued and unending war?
Moderate views like a pre emptive nuclear strike on Iran?
Moderate views like supporting a national ID to track all citizens?
i.e. "show me your papers!"

Ron Paul is the only true conservative voice in a sea of neo con war mongers and authoritians....

I think that Mike Huckabee has a message which rings distinctively in this field. Giuliani, Romney and McCain pander too much to special interest groups. Ron Paul has some good ideas, some really weird ideas. Hunter, Brownback, and Tancredo should just give up, as they are wasting valuable debate time. I do not agree with Paul, but his opinions will help spotlight the moderate views of the top three. I really hope that Huckabee hangs in there because he sounds like a noral guy who's trying to make things better, and isn't that what we all want?

As a libertarian who finds both parties deplorable in their greed, corruption and self-serving agendas and as someone who understands that these 2 policital power-sharing parties have (for the past 100 or so years) eroded the essential elements of freedom that made this country so great and unique, I am surprised the media even bothers reporting a story about Ron Paul. Such a story takes readers and airtime away from their agenda and that is, as we all know, to get Hillary elected. Oh yeah, it wasn't a story about Paul, it was about how Huckabee had a 'nice moment' -- didn't people applaud Paul a few times too? I guess that wasn't a 'nice moment' but a terrifying moment for the biased media. Wake up, people, it's not about Democrats vs. Republicans, it's us citizens vs. oppressive government -- you know, the thing the CONSTITUTION was designed to protect us from...

Not when that iceberg is anarchy in Iraq. I agree we never should have gone into Iraq, but Huckabee makes a good point. We can't leave those people high and dry. We tried that in Vietnam and it didn't work out so well. Britain did the same thing when they split Ireland. Whatever got us into this, we cannot tuck tail and run.

What are you Chris, Huckabee's brother?

Huckabee basically said that we all should just shut up and all go down together as the Titanic is about to hit the iceberg led by Capt. Bush. After all, we have to be united right? This desire for "unity" borders on the fascistic, which of course comes from the Latin "faces" or bundle of rods used during Roman times and adopted during Mussolini's rule. Get it, everyone bound together and united?

How about even better: "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!" Same thing, right? Everyone united behind The One.

Funny isn't it that Huckabee actually once called for a troop withdrawl during an earlier debate before he flipped-flopped on it, something neither this newspaper's reporters have not called him out on (Along position on immigration. I don't remember him being in favor of deporting 20 million people before, do you?) because you're too busy trying to pump up his candidacy with media attention that's supposed to make up for his lack of dollars and organization which he does not have compared to Ron Paul.

Fine then, attack Paul. Attack Paul even more. Make the GOP debate about him. I would love it! Because foreign policy should be at the heart of this election because everything else follows through from it. And Ron Paul knows that when the ship is about to hit the iceberg, you don't all holds hands together, you replace the captain and change course.

Even if Chris Cillizza doesn't.

Huckabee is a nice guy, a passable Baptist preacher, and a journeyman bass guitar player. He has unfortunately drunk the neocon Kool-Aid, when it comes to the Iraq. Ending this immoral, unconstitutional, and no-win war is the paramount issue of this presidential campaign. Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate who clearly understands this imperative, and he is clearly the most qualified to be President.

Mike Huckabee impressed me tonight. He stole the show when he picked that fight with Paul, something no one else was brave enough to do. And his fair tax idea sounds like something worth looking into.

That said, you can't judge any candidate by a few sound bites. I watched him the whole time and all of his answers made sense to me.

Romney lost because he kept waffling every question. McCain lost because he's still not a real conservative. From what I saw tonight, it's coming down to Guiliani vs Huckabee.

Except you did not quote the entire dialogue between them...why dont you put the entire discussion on there...Ron Paul had the best closer...How many lives are worth us saving face...

The United States didn't "break" Iraq; Saddam Hussein did. The fact that Mike Huckabee forgot that makes it one of his more disgraceful moments, certainly not "a very nice" one.

Donna, go to Mike Huckabee's website, mikehuckabee.com if you want to donate some money.

My son & I are in the military; he is an infantry soldier in Iraq. In GW's latest visit, there were six soldiers in the front row, three were women. He was in a secure location. When visitors go to the Green Zone they see and hear what the generals want them to. There are no women in my son's unit. Recently, his convoy passed an Iraqi man whose vehicle had just detonated a roadside bomb. His legs were blown off & he was bleeding profusely. The convoy didn't stop. Does that bring honor to America? This war is destroying Iraq, dividing America, exhausting our army, and crippling the Republican party. Where is the honor in that, sir?

Huckabee has no idea about honor. If he had any of it, he should use it to get Ron Paul elected, before the Clintons and the Bushes finish their task to brake this country into three parts; just like Iraq. Although here it would be Yuppies, Neocons and Brainwashed.

What candidate did the Fox News debate bring you closer to ---------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=446

Conservatives go "wild" as Huckabee talks about honor and the Iraq War. Huh? Umm, Mr Hucklebee, let's talk about the tens upon tens of thousands of Iraqi and American lives lost, the years required to heal the damage, the lost honor of America throuhout the world, the..., ah; the list is too long for conservatives to understand.

Mike Huckabee scored points with his advocacy for and explanation about eliminating the income tax system and replacing it with the FairTax (consumption based) tax system. None of the others would take him on about it but rather simply talked in platitudes about how they are for low taxes, without speaking in specifics like Huckabee did.

Huckabee gets better everytime he is on TV. It is clear that he needs to raise more money to stay competitive. How can I donate a few bucks to him?

"Even if we lose elections we should not lose our honor and that is more important than the Republican party."

The fact that none of the audience probably wants Vitter to resign means that - you guessed it - the Republican party has no honor to lose. Or else they think that Craig staying on is just fine. Which is it?

Huckleberry is not going to put the blame for this horrid war on everyone. It's his war if he likes it, it's Bush's war - they can take responisbility for the lives and funds lost - but it's certainly not my war.

Republican audiences -- at least those hard-core enough to show up for a debate over a year before the election -- are looking for any reason, excuse or pretext to get rid of Ron Paul...Recall what a cheer Giuliani got for slamming Paul over (in Rudy's probably intentional misunderstanding of what Paul said) whether we asked for the terrorists to attack on 9/11... These people want Paul gone.

Good 15 minutes of fame for Huckabee but Ron Paul is consistent and knows what he is doing. It's hilarious to here the other "top tier" adopting Ron Paul's views that he has had for decades.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/index.html

This exchange was powerful.

I really wish the Democrats would actually have a substantive exchange like this in their debates instead of playing touch football with each other by using platitudes, generalities, cautious statements, and insinuations.

A lot of these guys looked much stronger and much more presidential than most of the Democratic field.

White guys have had a nice long run. How about letting a black guy or a woman on the Republican ticket? Oh, be that way.

It looks good for Huckabee temporarily, but in the long term Ron Paul's points will be proved right, as Americans soldiers continue to sacrifice their lives for no reasons.

I thought so, too.

Romney is really tanking tonight.

http://political-buzz.com/2007/09/05/new-hampshire-republican-debate-liveblog/