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Romney vs Giuliani

With one-third of the debate already gone, the sniping between Giuliani and Romney has been the central dynamic thus far.

Romney is working hard to make sure viewers know that he and Giuliani differ when it comes to immigration, seemingly slipping in the fact that New York was a "sanctuary" city at every turn. After Giuliani pushed back on the idea that he supports amnesty, Romney went back at him, arguing that Giuliani's welcoming message to illegal immigrants during his mayorship was "not the right message."

Not to be outdone, Giuliani used a question about the safety of New York City to note that it was 59 percent more likely that you would be the victim of a crime in Boston than in New York. Think he just plucked Boston out of the air? We think not.

It's clear that both Giuliani and Romney view the other as their main adversary in the fight for the nomination. Watch to see how this back and forth develops in the remaining hour of the debate.

By Eric Pianin |  September 5, 2007; 9:41 PM ET
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Posted by: PollM | September 5, 2007 11:20 PM

A King's Wide Stance: 'I Am Not Gay'
Saturday, September 1, 2007; Page A02

From the opening line of his statement yesterday, the King of Zouk was in trouble. "Thank you all very much for coming out today," he began.
"Coming out" was perhaps not the best phrase for a guy who had pleaded guilty to some rather un-kingly conduct in an airport men's room -- and now stands accused in his home-state paper of a homosexual encounter in Zouk Station.
Alas for the king, it was not his first mistake.
No, his first mistake was on June 11, when he went into a restroom stall in the Zoukopolis airport and, according to the arrest report, tapped his foot in a "signal often used by persons communicating a desire to engage in sexual conduct."
This was followed closely by his second mistake: handing the arresting officer his business card and asking, "What do you think about that?"
Mistake No. 3? Explaining to the police that his foot touched the undercover officer's foot in the next stall because he has "a wide stance when going to the bathroom."
Mistake No. 4: Pleading guilty on Aug. 8 to disorderly conduct, and telling nobody -- not even a lawyer or his wife -- before the news broke Monday and Zouk's spokesman chalked it up to a "he said/he said misunderstanding."
This quartet of errors landed the king before the television cameras yesterday outside the Wells Fargo building in downtown Zouk City. Standing next to his wife, who wore sunglasses and looked as if she felt ill, the king almost shouted as he asserted his heterosexuality.
"Let me be clear: I am not gay. I never have been gay," Zouk said. Evidently, he did not think this was clear enough, because moments later, he explained why he kept the arrest a secret. "I wasn't eager to share this failure, but I should have anyway -- because I am not gay!"
The Associated Press rushed out a bulletin: "The King of Zouk says, 'I am not gay.' " CNN put up a "Breaking News" banner announcing, "The King of Zouk: I am not gay, and never have been gay."
The Drudge Report went with the headline "Brokeback Bathroom."
As the Zouks departed, somebody in the crowd that had gathered called out after the king: "Hey, what if you were gay?"

Posted by: AP | September 5, 2007 10:31 PM

Posted by: matt | September 5, 2007 9:46 PM

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