Here's some exam findings of Domenicis' brain that differ somewhat with the official release.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12461951@N03/
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/1490445344_2fc34d8bba_o.jpg

... ;)

I think he should stay on. Since when is mental stability a factor. I could point out a number of "congressmen" that make no sense but I'll just mention one, Robert Byrd.

Pete Domenici's departure is not too surprising; it was apparent to anybody watching him the last few years he had some serious medical problems that we weren't supposed to know or talk about.

However, I wish he'd leave office sooner; do we really need a senator that will be voting on all the important issues of the day while so many cards short of a full deck? And who is going to decide whether he is mentally capable of serving in the Senate? Pete himself?

New Mexico is a conservative state but not a truly Republican state. Call it a sexist analysis, but believe me this widespread moderate conservatism will work against both parties if they nominate Heather Wilson and/or Diane Denish for Senate.

From the beginning, both of them have benefited - and have been perceived as benefiting - from riding the coattails of more powerful political men in the state. That basic political weakness is compounded by the fact that each has the charisma of a dead fish. I don't see either of them getting past the primary. Heather's US Attorney influencing problems have only started, too, and Larry Craig's foot-shuffling ways may remind New Mexico voters of Heather's husband's past indiscretions (a matter of partially suppressed police record).

The speculation about Mayor Martin Chavez of Albuquerque running for Senate is laughable. He's not at all popular or effective in Albuquerque; he'd be eaten alive in the important smaller towns and rural areas. (And besides, the curse of the Mayor of Albuquerque is upon him.)

Rep. Udall probably has the best Dem shot; he's been liberal but not too liberal for New Mexico in his voting and he presents himself in a down-home, comfortable way in public. He's got the charisma of a _live_ fish, at any rate. Other Democrats will have a very difficult time getting their voter recognitions up in this big state the way Tom has.

Rep. Pearce, well, it's just not a great year for bitter, ultra-conservative Republicans, especially ones that unconditionally support President Dum-dum on Iraq and every other issue, few of which issues play well in northern and central New Mexico these days.

I'm going out on a limb here and wonder aloud if former Republican Governor Gary "Goofy" Johnson might not get back into politics and run for Domenici's seat. He's still such a blank slate and dim bulb, but New Mexico voted him governor twice. As governor he did absolutely nothing of significance except advocate legalizing marijuana and yet he probably would have higher state-wide approval ratings than any other Republican. Go figure. But then, Republicans have been eating their young in New Mexico for so many years they have a very thin field of candidates.

The New Western Democrats will sweep The West in the next election cycle. Pro-gun, anti-corporate, pro-environmental libertarians. How could anyone possibly vote Republican in the next election? They've screwed things up so badly over the last 8 years, they're retiring in droves, the budget is blown, America is extremely isolated in the World, The lies of the Bush Administration are evident for all to see and all those that supported him will now be held accountable. What a disaster!

"I need to go take a SCHIP, be back later

Posted by: rufus | October 4, 2007 01:10 PM

the only reason to call me a phoney soldier is that I put a phone up my butt once

Posted by: rufus | October 4, 2007 01:11 PM
"

Is that all you cowards got? HAHAHHAHAHAHA. O'rEilyl is done. Rush is done. The gop is done. And that's all you got HAHAHAHA. FUnny fascists aren't you

the only reason to call me a phoney soldier is that I put a phone up my butt once

I need to go take a SCHIP, be back later

Hold it, Rufus, your insults do as much damage to the dems trying to make a reasoned point on this blog as Rush's hatemongering does to the gop nationally. Count to ten before you post, and check your spelling.

What I'm looking for in this blog is thoughtful discussion of facts and news, preferably with dems, gop and independents all contributing.

i THOUGH TYOU WERE LEAVING MARK. wHY THE WHINING AND CRYING POSTS. POST YOUR POSTS. What a bunch of cowards you gop sell-outs are.

Sorry everyone for all the posts. Anyone that comes here regulaly knows I have been called a phoney soldier and also that I was never in the military EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE MENTIONED IT. So this rush thing is not an isolated incident. This is what the gop is doing, with direction from their avatars, like rush and fox. So imagine when this fell in my lap. A chance for me to direct all of this "phoney soldier" garbag eI have been getting back onto the gop. Sorry for all the posts. I can't stay silent on this one. It is bigger than rush. We (the left)need to hold him accountable. We all have seen the gop is unable or incapable of holding their own to account. Peace

This is a big deal and a huge opportunity for Democrats. Now that Domenici is retiring, they will certainly be able to recruit a top tier candidate to vie for the seat. Whether it be us rep. Udall, Lt. gov. Danish or whoever. If they were able to recruit Richardson, he would be the favorite against any Republican except Domenici. With that being said, who will Democrat's recruit? Will Udall leave a very safe seat in House, where he is in the majority, for a tough and uncertain seat in the US senate? Danish keeps her seat as Lt. gov. if she runs and doesn't win, so she has little to lose not to run. Who will end up running for the Republicans? Heather Wilson is in for a tough fight whether or not she runs for re-election to the House, being in the minority likely, or run for the senate seat. She is Domenici's protege, so to speak, and this the best shot she will likely ever have to get that US senate seat. I think she's in. How about Stevan Pearce? Will he leave a safe house seat to run against Wilson in the Republican primary, and then against whoever the Democratic candidate is? Political pundits seem to believe he will run. Had R's kept control of the House, I would think he'd be happy to stay just where he is. Considering how easily he will win re-election to the House if he stays vs. how difficult it will be for him to win the senate seat, he may think twice about running for the Senate. Unless he just hates being in the minority in the House, he will likely stay where he is in the House handing Wilson the nomination. If that happens, this race with Wilson vs. the Democratic nominee will be very competitive.

Republican's just can't seem to catch a break. Allard of Colo., J. Warner of Va., Hagel of Neb. and now Domenici of NM. Domenici, J. Warner and Chuck Hagel would all have their seat as safe Republican's if they ran for re-election. Udall would put up a fight with Allard in NM, but Allard would definately be the favorite. His type of conservatism goes very well with Colorodo voters, which is why he won election twice. But now, Va., NM. and Colo. are all very competitive toss up races. Nebraska is still very Republican leaning, whether the GOP nominee is Johanns or Bruning. The GOP primary is where the real race for Hagel's seat is, not the general election. However, New Hampshire is now very, very competitive. It looks like Oregon, Maine and Minn. are all leaning Republican. Still, though, Democrats have a chance to gain NM, Colo., Va., NH and Minn. Gordon Smith has the money to fund himself in Oregon, although the GOP will likely help him some. Collins looks like she has things well in hand in Maine. R's have a chance to gain La. and SD. Democrats have a major advantage now, although a 67 seat veto proof senate is still a major exaggeration. 60 seats is still bleak for Dems., but now not out of the question.

The letter with edits looks good to me, as well, and I think it's long overdue. Good on you for taking the initiative, Mark.

Hello -- here's a story for you, CC-- big one.

'Recently it was reported that around 50 pro-family leaders gathered behind closed doors to discuss what to do if a pro-choice politician -- read: Rudy -- won the GOP nomination. The reports were a bit vague as to what happened, suggesting that the group said they would "consider" nominating a third-party challenger.

Now, however, one of those leaders, Focus on the Family head James Dobson, has published an Op ed piece in The New York Times clarifying exactly what happened: The group voted almost unanimously not just to "consider" backing such a challenger, but to definitely do so. In other words, Dobson made it official, saying that if a pro-choicer wins the GOP nomination, these leaders will be going third party. Dobson wrote:

After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.'

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/_dobson_makes_it_official_religious_right_leaders_will_back_thirdparty_challenger_against_rudy.php

The letter is fine by me...

the letter looks good to me too.

Dispatches from an Alternate Universe
It really is true that a significant percentage of conservatives have managed to construct for themselves an alternate universe in which up is down, left is right, and political reality is completely inverted. I don't know any other way of explaining how someone can argue, without feeling completely embarrassed, that the Left hates Rush Limbaugh for the "quality of his mind" or that the "vilification of individuals" by the Left has become "one of the central features of contemporary politics."

Let's see... Limbo vilifies and demonizes men and women fighting in Iraq, and so.... the media accuses 'the left' of vilifying. 'The quality of his mind.' I wonder which quality? The capacity for evil?

'Cavuto compares congressional Dems to Saddam Hussein: Fox News personality sees similarities between S-CHIP debate, hostages taken in Iraq - On Fox News' Your World, host Neil Cavuto asked, "[W]hat does this?"-- while he aired a video clip of children pulling red wagons in front of the White House as part of a recent demonstration against President Bush's threatened veto of legislation to increase funding for the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) by $35 billion over five years -- "have to do with this?" -- whereby he aired a still image of Saddam Hussein with a young British boy, an image from a widely publicized TV interview that aired on Iraqi state television in which Saddam appeared with Western hostages to whom he had refused exit visas in the lead-up to the Persian Gulf War.'

oww-- the stupid. how painful is the incredible stupidity

Mark In Austin, dridl, bokonon, et al;
The content of the letter looks acceptable, actually really good, to me.

'The sound of one hand clapping ... The NYT fronts a piece looking into how things don't seem to be going so well for Fred Thompson, the man that was supposed to be the Republican savior. After he finished a speech in Iowa recently, the audience stayed silent. "Can I have a round of applause?" Thompson asked.'

Oh. My. Give it up, old man.

'On the September 24 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, during the weekly "Body Language" segment, Fox News 'body language expert' Tonya Reiman asserted that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) exhibited "evil laughter" during her recent Fox News Sunday interview with host Chris Wallace. '

jeezus christ. how much stupider can it get? how far can you dumb down an entire country. al queda could just march in masse into the country saying they were fox news and half the population woudl welcome them with open arms.

'Starting with reports in The New York Times and the Politico, and progressing to many other outlets, commentators speculated about whether Clinton's laughter is evidence of her "calculating" nature, with some characterizing her laugh as a "cackle" -- defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as "the sound made by a hen after laying an egg."

And MSM wonders why its readership is falling -- the level of political discourse in this country is at a sandbox level -- digusting.

And of course you knew that zouk couldn't have thought this up on his own -- he is incapable. He can only parrot.

The new Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that Bill Clinton remains popular, with 66% of Americans approving of his job performance when he was president, and only 32% disapproving. This is a virtual mirror image of President Bush's approval rating, which stands at 33%-64%. Additionally, 60% of respondents said they would be comfortable having Bill as the first husband.

As for his wife's presidential campaign, she is not viewed as a mere extension of his White House -- only 27% or respondents said she would be such a thing, compared to 67% who said she would be different. A full majority of respondents, 52%, say a hypothetical Hillary presidency would be different from Bill's, and that this would be a good thing. And in a match-up with Rudy Giuliani, Hillary leads 51%-43%.

During a campaign swing in which he toured an Iowa ethanol plant, Fred Thompson acknowledged that he has changed his position on ethanol subsides.

"I have voted against subsidies in the Senate," said Thompson. "But I think it's a matter now of national security.'

'national security' meaning 'help me get elected.' going to be hearing a lot about how it's important to 'national security' that repugs get elected...

Heather Wilson? Oh, I don't think so...

'Reminiscent of the still-unfolding scandal involving Rep. Mark Foley -- and what many, even on the right, see as a Republican cover-up -- is an earlier scandal involving Republican Rep. Heather Wilson (NM-01) and her husband, Jay Hone. The video above shows a KOAT-TV7 (Albuquerque) news story prompted by one of Wilson's first actions when she was appointed to head the NM Department of Children, Youth and Families. Wilson served as Department Secretary from 1995-1998. On her third day in office, she removed a sensitive department case file, which had been opened on her husband, from the agency's central records repository in Albuquerque. Although Wilson initially denied doing so, she later changed her story and admitted removing the file. In other words, she lied.

The file was opened in response to an Albuquerque police report filed in March 1993 that reportedly contained potentially damaging allegations against her husband.'

http://www.democracyfornewmexico.com/democracy_for_new_mexico/2006/10/foley_case_not_.html

'U.S. Rep. Heather Wilson's service on the seemingly innocuous House Page Board has brought the Mark Foley scandal into the Albuquerque Republican's hotly contested race for re-election.

Wilson's Democratic opponent, Attorney General Patricia Madrid, charged Monday that Wilson failed to protect the pages from a sexual predator when she was one of five members of the board from 2001-04.

"This board was specifically charged with taking care of the pages," Madrid said.

http://www.americablog.com/2006/10/heather-wilson-r-nm-who-cried-about.html

The House Ethics Committee interviewed former U.S. Attorney David Iglesias of New Mexico on Wednesday, a first step toward deciding whether to open an inquiry into allegations that Rep. Heather Wilson, R-N.M., tried to pressure him.

http://www.nmfbihop.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=330

I think the caps were to show Bokonon's edits.

I submitted a separate email, perhaps a bit less well-written, with similar sentiments. I don't have much to contribute to this one.

For the Dems to win in NM, they will need to get on top of the GOP caging activities, and other assorted election misbehavior (e.g., moving polling places weeks before the election).

My sister, a hard core Dem (with an hispanic surname -- she married a 3rd generation Mexican-American) was booted from the rolls because she was caged. Why didn't she get the GOP's little registered mail package? She had a stroke and was in the hospital in Lubbock, TX (where she was life-flighted from her home in Carlsbad)recovering. She was too sick to deal with the BS. No one told her she could fill out a provisional ballot. She just didn't vote.

How many others are like her? So the Dems better get their legal team together if they want to take this seat. The GOP will do whatever it takes to hold it.

Drindl, sorry - the caps were mine. I usually send edits online as Word docs using "Track Changes," but in this case I had no other way to easily indicate what was changed/new.

Note that last post was rhetorical, not looking for actual descriptions

If this letter's recommendations are adopted, what will the whackjobs do all day?

I'll be happy to sign too -- I've probably been on here longer than any of y'all. Note: not so many caps, please. They look like we're screaming. But the content is good.

I was going to proof the final...

also, in the 2nd paragraph of my edit, make sure you take out my note to you in parentheses and replace with the actual rule or rules you refer to.

Mark, absolutely... one more edit I just noticed, though...

"SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER PROVIDE YOUR READERS"

instead should be

"SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE YOUR READERS"

Hope it works!

Republicans are reaping what they have sown. 6 years of run amok corruption and the only surprise is that there aren't even more of them bailing to avoid criminal prosecution. You can bet Domminecci was having "health problems. I beleive the diagnosis was "depleted bowel syndrome"... he was scared sh!tless!

should have been mind eaters,

just reading this blog has sucked an "n" out of me...

beware the slithey toves,

and tap dancers in MinnieAppleus

.

Thanks, Boko - your redraft is where it is now. Perhaps some others will join in, too.

When I use your redraft do I have your permission to sign my [real]
name, as if I wrote it?

The only thing "controversial" on this blog is how Cillizza has kept his job as an objective journalist.

"Controversial legislation?" That phrase sounds like a GOP soundbyte or radio advertisement, not like the comment of a journalist worthy of any respect.

you have been infiltrated by the mid eaters....

good luck.

I see that they already have Chris under their sway....

"you shall know them by their zouks!"

F.O. and D.

.

replace 2nd to last paragraph with this:

"We do not want to lose this website to THOSE WHO WOULD USE IT as a personal vanity page, OR AS A PLACE TO TRUMPET CANDIDATES OR CAUSES WITH NO ROOM FOR DISCUSSION, but we do not have the power to stop or even slow them. AS THE WEBMASTER, you, on the other hand, SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER PROVIDE YOUR READERS WITH A RELATIVELY OPEN AND RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO SHARE THEIR VIEWS."

Mark and others, see what you think of this.

*******

Dear Mr. Cillizza:

I am WRITING ON BEHALF of several concerned USERS OF YOUR SITE. In recent weeks, ATTEMPTS AT serious commentary, from every point of view, haVE been progressively stifled by A few self-absorbed posters. If you or any OF YOUR staff have been paying attention, you will understand our frustration. If not, SEVERAL OF US are ready to PROVIDE YOU WITH EXAMPLES.
We suggest the following two simple steps.

First, enforce the rules of the blog. (Mark, quote the relevant rules here, i.e. no posting under another's pen name, no putting down others' opinions... I don't have them in front of me.)
Second, require registration at this blog site, as is required by "The Trail."

If the disruption continues after you have enforced the rules and required registration, we will suggest more stringent steps.

We do not want to lose this website to THOSE WHO WOULD USE IT as a personal vanity page, OR AS A PLACE TO TRUMPET CANDIDATES OR CAUSES WITH NO ROOM FOR DISCUSSION. But we do not have the power to stop or even slow them. AS THE WEBMASTER, you, on the other hand, SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER PROVIDE YOUR READERS WITH A RELATIVELY OPEN AND RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO - RESPECTFULLY - SHARE THEIR VIEWS.

WE DO NOT WANT NOR DO WE EXPECT 'CENSORSHIP,' AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT BANNING ONE OR MORE PEOPLE IS THE ANSWER - PERHAPS IF EACH CONTRIBUTOR WERE LIMITED TO A CERTAN NUMBER OF POSTS PER HOUR? We only ask that you do what you actually can, BUT WE ARE REASONABLY CONFIDENT/HOPEFUL THAT SOMETHING CAN IN FACT BE DONE.

08 will be a bloodbath for the GOP because they have a fool in the White House, no good Presidential candidate, and they have put party before country consistently for 6 years, causing many of us to question their patriotism.

THe only big question is whether the Democrats can have some spine to stop the bankrupting of the country by Bush in mindless war in Iraq and whether they can define themselves in some way outside of the corporate media spin.

zouk zouk zouk

This seat belongs to Bill Richardson. He needs to give up his hopeless run for the White House and get his Senate seat. None of the GOP candidates has a chance. Here in New Mexico our state is a very blue shade of purple. Bush only won here by cheating at the polls. Wilson is widely disliked.

Come on home Bill Richardson!

Pete Domenici's retirement is a major development. New Mexico is a swing state and the political and fundraising winds are blowing in the Democrats favor. This seat is ripe for a pickup, although at this early stage I would not say it looks as sure a thing as Virginia, New Hampshire or Colorado. Heather Wilson, BTW, is tainted by the U.S. Attorney scandal just like Domenici, albeit to a lesser degree.

At this stage I would rate the Senate races as--

LEAN DEM: Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, South Dakota

TOSSUP: New Mexico, Louisiana, Minnesota

LEAN GOP: Maine, Oregon, Nebraska

Republicans have 8 endangered seats to the Democrats 2. Three of the GOP endangered seats I rank in the LEAN DEM category, so they are highly likely takeover possibilities. I would not consider either of the endangered Democratic seats in the LEAN GOP category.

JasonL -- I follow your logic regarding 2010, and obviously that's so far off right now that who knows what will actually happen, but the map will again reallly favor Dems that year. If they get to 58 or so this time (again, not saying it happens) I could see another two seat pick up in 2010 assuming the election wasn't too nationalized. If it was another national cycle, i agree that Dems would probably not pick up more seats since the public, somewhat justifiably, is skeptical of too much power in one party's hands.

Hasn't this been overlooked? To quote Mr. Cillizza, a Dem majority could "possibly make it easier for them [sic] to pass controversial legislation." Would this "controversial legislation" include legislating the immediate redeployment of troops, health care for all (and especially children), a sensible and sensitive plan for global warming, and a restoration of international and national laws that have traditionally governed this nation? Horrors! That sounds pretty controversial, given that more than 60% of voting Americans (and probably 80% of the non-voting ones) support this kind of controversy. What's the world coming to?! Before we start planning our wish list of candidates, we'd better start thinking about what these nasty Congressional Dems could do should they choose to represent the majority! It's VERY controversial.

I propose the following draft. I will email it, as an attachment, on my letterhead to CC and to the publisher. I have left plenty of room for your editing. Have at it.
--------------------------

Dear Mr. Cillizza:

I am representative of several concerned posters to "The Fix". In recent weeks the serious commentary from every point of view
has been progressively stifled by as few as four self-absorbed posters. If you or any staffers have been paying attention,
you will understand our frustration. If not, at least ten posters are ready to cite you "chapter and verse."

We suggest the following two simple steps.

First, enforce the rules of the blog. Second, require registration at this blog site as is required by "The Trail."

If the disruption continues after you have enforced the rules and required registration, we will suggest more stringent steps.

We do not want to lose this website to persons intent upon using "The Fix" as a personal vanity page. But we do not have the power to stop or even slow them. You, on the other hand, may or may not have that power.

We only ask that you do what you actually can.

Now, this will be a test. How can Jonathan Weisman and Shalaigh Murray spin the Domenici retirement into a win for the Republicans? It is going to be tough, but I know they can do it.

Pete Domenici's name was the first one listed on CREW's "Beyond Delay" report on corruption in Congress. Heather Wilson's face is shown first. And Steve Pearce's name is also on the list of the 22 most corrupt people currently in Congress.

http://www.beyonddelay.org/

Let's face it -- they're all three marked, and it's just a matter of time until they all go bye-bye! Good riddance to the lot! (Heather Wilson's running ads on TV, many times a day now: saying how great she is for caring about children. Uh-huh ... a failed play right out of Gonzo's playbook.)

What's that comment, in one of the e-mails that went public during the AttorneyGate Scandal: something about Domenici being very happy to see Iglesias go; and that he isn't even waiting for the body to cool!?

Anonymous--"Prime: FNC: 422 | CNN: 251 | MSNBC: 220 | HLN: 161 | CNBC: 150

We need a law. no one is listening to us Libs."

We clearly need a law for math education. Since the implication is that FOXNews is the only anti-Lib organisation, it is clearly losing. 251 + 220 + 161 + 150 = 782, much more than FOX's 422.

Sorry everyone for all the posts. Anyone that comes here regulaly knows I have been called a phoney soldier and also that I was never in the military EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE MENTIONED IT. So this rush thing is not an isolated incident. This is what the gop is doing, with direction from their avatars, like rush and fox. So imagine when this fell in my lap. A chance for me to direct all of this "phoney soldier" garbag eI have been getting back onto the gop. Sorry for all the posts. I can't stay silent on this one. It is bigger than rush. We (the left)need to hold him accountable. We all have seen the gop is unable or incapable of holding their own to account. Peace

Have a good night everybody.

"Asked about Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" comment, McCain told CNN: "[H]e should not have said it"
On the October 3 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, chief national correspondent John King asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for his reaction to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-NV) Senate floor statement calling on senators "to join in condemning [Rush] Limbaugh's attack on our troops" -- a reference to Limbaugh's September 26 comments characterizing service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers." McCain responded: "I did issue a statement saying that I thought it was inappropriate, and perhaps Mr. Limbaugh didn't mean it but he should not have said it."

"

"Dear IVAW supporter,

IVAW DC chapter president Geoff Millard to appear on The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News, 8 PM EST. Please check local listings and tune in!

IVAW member Geoff Millard will appear on The O'Reilly Factor to respond to Rush Limbaugh's accusation that troops and veterans who oppose the unjust occupation of Iraq are "phony soldiers." While politicians and pundits are busy waging a PR war over Rush's comments, our troops are engaged in a real war and are dying every day. Iraq Veterans Against the War will not stop organizing until all of our brothers and sisters are home from Iraq and the Iraqi people are allowed their right to self determination. The best way for our political leaders to show their support for our troops is by demanding an immediate withdrawal of all occupying forces from Iraq. Please watch The O'Reilly Factor tonight to see Geoff Millard speak with the honesty and integrity that is sorely lacking among politicians who continue to sacrifice our lives in a seemingly endless war and occupation.

After watching Geoff take on O'Reilly, please visit the Iraq Veterans Against the War website, www.ivaw.org/support, and make a donation today! Your help is critical in IVAW's work to end the war.

In Peace,

Kelly Dougherty
Former Sergeant, Army National Guard
Executive Director
Iraq Veterans Against the War

"

Another piece of the aging rot is swept out. And yes, on the 1% a year national Democratic trend, New Mexico will be a ~53% Democratic win statewide next year.

And yes, in '10 Democrats will probably be in a position to take Snowe's seat, Gregg's, Specter's, Voinovich's, Martinez's, McCain's, Bond's- all at that point running for election in Blue states. And they'll have good shots at Burr, Bunning, maybe Thune.

Republicans- the new Whig Party.

Pete Domenici has been an absloutely great United States Senator not only for New Mexico, but for the entire Nation. Identified as the most-promising person to follow him, then Senator Clinton P. Anderson (D., NM),saw greatness in the young, Republican Domenici and went well-beyond party lines to to support the very best person for the New Mexico of the future, not of the past. Oh how we need this type of vision in today's world. Senator, Domenici you lived up to Sen. Anderson's predictions and beyond. Thank you for being yourself.... John Owens

"So here is a giant hypocrite, General Clark, who sat around and did nothing during a genocide of 800,000 Rwandans, the mad bomber of Bosnia, fully in support of Michael Moore's right to lie under the context and the pretext of the First Amendment. And yet General Clark's all over television yesterday and today, suggesting that I need to be taken off of Armed Forces Radio because I have a long history of disrespect and criticism for the brave men and women in the United States military. No more ridiculous, worthless, totally untrue charge could be made. But he is making it. Now, Peter Jennings, after the answer that you just heard from the mad bomber of Bosnia, said, "Let me ask you about something you mentioned, then, because this question and answer which you and Mr. Moore was involved in, you had a chance to look at the facts. You still feel comfortable with the fact that somebody should be standing up in your presence and calling the president of the United States a deserter?""

the differance is Mike moore is not on the radio everyday. Mike moore is not on the radio broadcasting to troops. People can buy moore's books or movies. He's not on the airwaves daily.

I'm all for rush and fox putting out cd. Put a parentel advisory sticker on it, like it's rap.

But they are not news. They are republcian RAP. Put out cd's rush. Get off the radio

CC. I'll ask again. Why did you cover the moveon stroy over and over, yet zero mention of the Rush Limabaugh, phony soldiers, comments. ARe you a hypocrite, sir? Are you are republcian talking head tellin gone side of the story?

Another non-phony soldier. The right is still defending him and propogating. Now we see who is who and what is what.

"As a USMC vet who also happens to be pro-peace, it upsets but doesn't surprise me that Limbaugh would make such a comment. All he ever does is try to stir up stuff. He is basically a bully for hire! It's rich that he calls someone a "phony soldier" when Limbaugh has never served a DAY in combat let alone the armed forces! I wish Rush would just HUSH!!!
Posted by:
ladycascadia "

I am thrilled to hear that we will be shed of Dominici. If Wilson runs for his seat, we will probably be shed of her as well. I would love to see Tom Udall in Dominici's seat. He has been my representative for years and I have never known a better one. Maybe Patricia Madrid will run for Wilson's seat -- District 1. Marty Chavez is very smooth, but I don't trust him. This is the end of a dynasty in New Mexico and this is a good year for it to happen. Wilson and Dominici have been resting on their laurels way too long. Time for them to go.

Suprisingly balanced take from abc. This is kinda how I feel. I guess we're all phonies if we don't agree with these propogandsits

"Rush is the phony soldier. He happily sends others to do what he is not willing to do. I am one veteran who thinks that Rush is the problem with this country not the answer.
Posted by:
jr13579 7:17 PMMark As Violation
"

NM, VA, CO and NB have empty GOP incumbancy seats in '08. To be safe, let's say each race would need $6,000,000 per seat, on the average. THE GOP leaders, McCain, Guilliani and Mittney, can barely raise that amount. Look at the ENORMOUS $$$ disparity already, and the progressvie netroots have not even kicked in yet. Me thinks I am seeing 63 DEMCRATIC SENATORS FOR 2009.

These posts lack the studied moderation of practiced public statement. I suppose that's because so many of the posts are by young-earth Bible-beating free-market- fundamentalist wackos who think diphtheria was God's way of saving us money on child care.

Re Limbaugh and Wes Clark: wonder how often Rush called for U.S. intervention in Rwanda while it was happening? I'm gonna guess it's a round number.

hmm lets see, virgina plus new hampshire,nebraska maybe,minnesota,colorado,oregon,maine. thats 8 so far. now new mexico! 9 thats nine wins so far. can we make it to 60? looks like it but let me say this, the dems shouldnt get lazy and rest on their laurels.

sure its forcing the repubicans play defense in 9 states so far but anything can happen between now and november 2008.

I'm going to contineu and make use of this blog today. Now he is on the assult of Mr. Clark. Attack him and his credibility .But he supports the troops?

"RUSH: (laughing) Putting it in perspective. Now, General Clark, let's talk about him just a second here before we go to the break, the mad bomber of Bosnia. Is this the same Wesley Clark who did nothing to try to prevent the mass murder of 800,000 Rwandans? Is this the same Wesley Clark who was in a position to insist the Clinton administration and the United Nations send help to that region to try to stop the mass murder of 800,000 Rwandans? Is this the same Wesley Clark who has never had to answer for his indifference to that genocide, and, worse, in the face of this genocide, in a public investigation, has never had to answer for it? Is this the same Wesley Clark who was once a Republican who supported President Bush but then changed parties so he could run for president and then attack President Bush? Is this the same Wesley Clark who could not muster any popular support for his hilarious run for the presidency?
"

Now he's after wes clark for trying to have him removed from the armed servies radio, as he should be. Mad bomber of bosnia? Ballsy. How many more weeks do you people think he'll last?

"It's just funny to watch these people make total blithering idiots of themselves. Ted Koppel on the Today Show, following Ashley Wilkes, the mad bomber of Bosnia,"

"It doesn't look good for the major broadcast networks. At any rate, education, age, and knowledge. College grads, this program number two, at 37%. The average age of the audience of this program, 51, and the high knowledge score is 48, and it's number two. This program, number two in all of American media in education and knowledge. It is preceded only by the Weekly Standard and New Republic readers, 38% college grads, 38 is the average age. The libs are dragging us down a little bit. Eh, the libs may be dragging down the Weekly Standard a bit.
"

Is 51 considered elderly?

"Does this count truth?

"ANALYSIS & DOCUMENTATION: PEW stats on Rush Limbaugh, Bill O ...The average age of the audience of this program, 51, and the high knowledge ...... If you know all three questions, you could be a Rush Limbaugh listener. ...

"

51. After my late 40's post earlier. Darn I'm good. jk I have no ego.

"Rufus... Where do you get your stats that Rush's audience is the elderly? I believe Dittoheads come in all ages."

Your right. I just say that because my grandpa and all his freinds are being mislead. That's all I really care about. The elderly getting lied to everyday by these people. But you right. The younger generation (late 30's -late 40's) make the choice to submit to rush. But the elderly. They think they are listening to real news. Same with fox. You wonder why grandma's are always looking out their windows with binoculars in fear. People like this.

I love my grandpa very much. He has been mislead by these people. My family as many others have suffered as a result. Rush and the gop would blame me for not being a dittohead gop'er. I blame them for doing what they do to the mental of the elderly. I have no stats.

But who would willingly call themselves a dittohead? Let me see if I can find stats.

Whoa whoa whoa. Just one minute mr. Cavuto.

It's an all out assulat. Tryign to flood the airwaves with these things. They'll show us won't they. they really don't care about credibility in the slightest, do they.

"Cavuto links Dems' use of kids in SCHIP debate with Saddam's TV interview with young British hostage
Summary: Fox News' Neil Cavuto juxtaposed a video clip of children pulling red wagons in front of the White House as part of a recent demonstration against President Bush's threatened veto of legislation to increase funding for the State Children's Health Insurance Program with a still image of Saddam Hussein and a British boy that was taken in a TV interview in which Saddam appeared with Western hostages in the lead-up to the Persian Gulf War.
"

Rufus... Where do you get your stats that Rush's audience is the elderly? I believe Dittoheads come in all ages.

It's more a matter of his braying at the far right choir, isn't it? I'm kind of glad he's around, on balance I think he's done more harm than good for the GOP.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

How crazy rush really is

"They loved being on Nixon's enemies list, for example. It's the same thing. By the way, Dingy Harry sent his letter. He asked all these senators to sign the letter to Clear Channel's chairman, Chief Executive Officer, and asked him to force me to apologize and to admit that I had said something so over the top. He got 41 senators to sign it. Not even all the Democrats. No Republicans signed it.
"

Nixon? Of course no hypocrites signed it. That would go agaisnt their whole platform. Holding their own accountable? Would never happen. That is why your party is done. Zero accountability. NONE

Is rush zouk? Trying to get some attention? :)

Funny little fellas, aren't they?

This is a funny game to these elementary school kids. I'm not laughing

"You have to understand this, that most everybody else in the Drive-By Media would love to be censored on the floor of the Senate. They would love that kind of attention. They would love to be able to stir things up like -- (interruption) what? People don't believe that? You think people don't believe that? Mr. Snerdley is telling me that you people mostly won't believe that. Do you realize I'm getting e-mails from people, "Would you quit hogging the limelight? You know, I got a book out this week and you're distracting from it. How come you always do this? How come I can't get this kind of attention?""

Poor Rush limabugh. What is he worth again? How much money has he made lying to the eldery and propogating daily. At least media matters has to use his words. Rush doesn't do that, does he. He lies spins propogates daily. So who is the fraud? your boy is toast.

Who watches the watchmen. Media matters does. I do also. As well as others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen

"RUSH: And it doesn't mean that I have ever criticized them as soldiers. I've never criticized them as phony or anything else. Never, never, never, never, General Clark. There is no long history of me showing disrespect and criticism for uniformed military personnel. I'll tell you what, another thing going on here is you've got all these watchdogs, but who examines them for honesty and credibility? Why is it that the watchdogs are simply accepted as infallible instantly after they publish something? I think that it's because they're all liberals on the other side of this. It's amazing what people who really wanted to learn about this could learn, just visit my website, or even better, listen to the program, rather than these little excerpts that they're playing. It's really surreal. When they play the excerpt, I'm talking to the caller, and I say, "yeah, phony soldiers." From that we've got this? We've got denunciations on the House floor. We've got a condemnation letter sent by Senator Reid and a denunciation on the Senate floor, from two words? "

Little Joe... Banish all thought that pols think like you and I do. It would be enough for us, but for that special breed running for president?..... Front and center seems to be their home.

But then, I'm not all that familiar with Richardson's personality. Maybe he's one of the few.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

Our amigo Zouk, How do you say Arrivederci, Pete! en Espanol?

"But they have the opportunity to expand that majority and possibly make it easier for them to pass controversial legislation."

Why call it controversial? Maybe it's mainstream but the Repubs. won't vote for it? You guys never quit do you?

I'm assuming everyone hear knows wes clark. For those that don't, he's a former general, and he's very respected on both sides of the aile.

"Now, back to General Clark. We have a couple of sound bites from General Clark from the Today show today. Here is Wesley Clark, Meredith Vieira talking to him, says, "You started this e-mail campaign to get Limbaugh off the Armed Forces Radio. It's a drastic step. Why do you think it's necessary?"

CLARK: His comments just cross the line. I think there's a lot of people serving in Iraq, a lot of veterans who have served, a lot of veterans who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan who have thoughts about the war that aren't necessarily in agreement with President Bush. That's their right as American citizens. It doesn't mean they weren't great soldiers."

"So now I am also hiding from you truthful, in their minds, evidence that I have referred to all of these soldiers who disagree with the war as phony soldiers, which was never uttered, was never said. "

Oh really. Way to get credibility. Even the defenders of his don't go that far, do they. HAHAHAHA. Get's better each day.

"But they (Democrats) have the opportunity to expand that majority and possibly make it easier for them to pass controversial legislation."

What the hell does "controversial legislation" mean?

New Mexican, Thanks for the firsthand observations. I guess Richardson is wildly popular. When is the latest he could logically get in the Senate race? Or, perhaps he will hold out for a chance at the VP slot.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

New Mexican, I thought that too about Baseball Bill. But then I thought, he's already had his time in Washington in Congress and as a Cabinet Secretary. So if you were him, unless you're President where the max is eight years (nobody intentionally runs for the Senate for just one term) - Would you rather be in the Land of Enchantment or Disneyland on the Potomac?

He might opt for home.

I would like to extend my sincere appreciation for all of the work Domenici has done on my behalf; it is always gratifying to have demonic ghouls, pretending to be followers of Jesus, hard at work in The Senate as they lie, cheat and steal their way through life. I'll keep a special seat nice and hot for you, Pete!
Your pal,
Satan

Here's the deal: Wilson is moving on because of a strong challenge from Albuquerque-native and council member Dem Martin Heinrich. She did the math and realizes she will lose to him (she barely won against a terrible Patricia Madrid candidacy).

Right now NM is leaning Dem-- just like the entire country. A Udall vs. Wilson (if she can survive wacko Pearce) match-up is most likely. Survey says... Udall wins.

But don't count the Gov out yet... I can see him making the move in two seconds. If he runs, he wins.

JasonL, Now I'm not sure I agree with you.... once/if the Dems take over the WH and Congress, like it or not they will then own the war. The GOP spin machine will make sure of that. Rewriting history is a GOP specialty.

Little Joe. Thank you. And, I agree with you about Wilson. The U.S. Attorney dustup ended up helping to take down AG Gonzales, Domenici and it would certainly hurt Wilson also.

Sen.Schumer gets an A+ for his Senate recruiting in 2004.... is he still at it? If so, expect a good candidate.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

ole pete allowed the power to get to him. He thought he was above the law and could influence justice.

He's being forced into retirement, and then they won't prosecute him.

it's wrong, but at leasthe's gone

I'm just happy both rush and o'reilly are keeping this in the news. they are bringing themselves down. they should have minimilized this. They are blowing it up. Why? Trying to turn the populance? It may work if there was no tape. As is they,and those attacking the messanger,, look like morons. I love it. Nothing could get them off the air faster than what they are doing. Because we have the tape. AHHAHAHA

OOH the weather outside is frightfull. Dumb De-DEumb delightful.

You people have balls. I'll give you that. Brains are lacking.

"BEGIN TRANSCRIPT


RUSH: The phony soldier smear is going on out there -- so we are forced to continue, not really forced, because it's an opportunity to continue to discuss this. Today, all over television after posting on the Internet yesterday, was the mad bomber of Bosnia. That would be General Wesley Clark known affectionately here as Ashley Wilkes. General Clark is lying through his teeth today. His impetus, purpose for going on television, is to get me taken off of Armed Forces Radio. On MSNBC this morning, General Clark said that I have a long history of disrespect and criticism of uniformed military personnel, a long history. This is Kafkaesque. The Hillary Clinton front group, Media Matters for America, has taken two of my words, "phony soldiers," and used hundreds and thousands of words now to manipulate it into a smear.

They are even saying I selectively edited a minute-and-a-half from my show transcript to hide some nefarious thing. I hid nothing. The edit was simply for substance and brevity. What happened was I was talking to this caller, Mike, and we discussed the phony soldiers thing, and he wanted to go talk about the weapons of mass destruction. He starts talking. While he's talking -- and you people watching the Dittocam saw this -- I'm waving in to Mr. Snerdley and I'm on the IFB, I'm talking to him, nobody else can hear me because it mutes my microphone going out. I said, "Print out the phony soldier commentary for me that we did yesterday; print it out." So he printed it out, the caller is vamping and going on, I'm reaching back to the printer, I grab the update, said, "Look, I don't want to talk about weapons of mass destruction, Mike, it's moot right now, doesn't have any relation, we're there, this is about something much more."

Then I read the commentary. The minute-thirty-seven was simply vamping to pick up the commentary off the printer from Mr. Snerdley's computer in the other room. They're trying to make some big scandal out of that. So now I am also hiding from you truthful, in their minds, evidence that I have referred to all of these soldiers who disagree with the war as phony soldiers, which was never uttered, was never said. I'll tell you what's happening here. Bill Bennett put this well to me in an e-mail today. He said, "We've reached a new day when anything said, no matter how violently torn from context, is presented however one wishes and accepted as fact by the interpreter. It is the death of meaning." I'll tell you what else this is. This is a reflection on the thinking and tactics that will be employed with the full weight and power of the federal government, should Hillary Clinton become president, because all of these people that are working at these front groups that she has founded, along with George Soros, are going to end up being her administration.

They are going to be rewarded with high government positions, from where they can unleash investigations on people that they want to deal with one way or the other. So what we have here is a dry run, sort of a rehearsal for if she wins, the little people at Media Matters for America, and John Podesta will be back as chief of staff, The Center for American Progress, all these different think tanks and organizations she's set up, these are little schools for people to learn how to conduct investigations on people that Mrs. Clinton doesn't want to deal with. So that's what's happening here. This is also a great example for the campaign 2008 playbook. Now, back to General Clark. We have a couple of sound bites from General Clark from the Today show today. Here is Wesley Clark, Meredith Vieira talking to him, says, "You started this e-mail campaign to get Limbaugh off the Armed Forces Radio. It's a drastic step. Why do you think it's necessary?"

CLARK: His comments just cross the line. I think there's a lot of people serving in Iraq, a lot of veterans who have served, a lot of veterans who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan who have thoughts about the war that aren't necessarily in agreement with President Bush. That's their right as American citizens. It doesn't mean they weren't great soldiers.


RUSH: And it doesn't mean that I have ever criticized them as soldiers. I've never criticized them as phony or anything else. Never, never, never, never, General Clark. There is no long history of me showing disrespect and criticism for uniformed military personnel. I'll tell you what, another thing going on here is you've got all these watchdogs, but who examines them for honesty and credibility? Why is it that the watchdogs are simply accepted as infallible instantly after they publish something? I think that it's because they're all liberals on the other side of this. It's amazing what people who really wanted to learn about this could learn, just visit my website, or even better, listen to the program, rather than these little excerpts that they're playing. It's really surreal. When they play the excerpt, I'm talking to the caller, and I say, "yeah, phony soldiers." From that we've got this? We've got denunciations on the House floor. We've got a condemnation letter sent by Senator Reid and a denunciation on the Senate floor, from two words?

In fact, some of the Drive-Bys are getting a little upset now that I'm occupying so much attention. All morning long on MSNBC they've been asking their guests, "Why are we focusing on Limbaugh here? Look, we want to get out of Iraq and why isn't Congress doing anything about it?" And that's the crux of this. Congress can't get us out of Iraq. If we've got 72%, or whatever the number is of people in the country, saying they want the war to end, how come the Democrats can't pull it off? They're trying to distract from their own failures. They're trying to distract from lying and deceiving their own believers, their own kook lunatic fringe. That's all they're doing is trying to muddy the waters so people don't understand what's going on. They're just feeding them red meat because they can't follow through on their commitments and their promises. So people are starting to wonder -- and the Drive-Bys, it's a little jealousy.

You have to understand this, that most everybody else in the Drive-By Media would love to be censored on the floor of the Senate. They would love that kind of attention. They would love to be able to stir things up like -- (interruption) what? People don't believe that? You think people don't believe that? Mr. Snerdley is telling me that you people mostly won't believe that. Do you realize I'm getting e-mails from people, "Would you quit hogging the limelight? You know, I got a book out this week and you're distracting from it. How come you always do this? How come I can't get this kind of attention?" I'm telling you, the Drive-Bys would love this kind of thing; they would love to be censored. They loved being on Nixon's enemies list, for example. It's the same thing. By the way, Dingy Harry sent his letter. He asked all these senators to sign the letter to Clear Channel's chairman, Chief Executive Officer, and asked him to force me to apologize and to admit that I had said something so over the top. He got 41 senators to sign it. Not even all the Democrats. No Republicans signed it.

Now, some people say, "Senate condemns Limbaugh." Bottom line, it's another Dingy Harry failure! It's another Dingy Harry defeat. He could not even get all the Democrats to sign the letter, folks. Forty-one out of 100 senators is all that signed it, and no Republicans? So he sends the letter to the chairman and the CEO of Clear Channel, who responded to it, page-and-a-half, it's on our website if you want to read it, and basically -- well, I'll just read it. Basically it just says, look, Senator, we believe in the First Amendment here, and we're not going to impose. Mr. Limbaugh has said what he meant, and that's it. I think they sent the letter trying to -- Reid sent it out so fast trying to put this behind him. So it's a huge defeat and failure for Harry Reid. MSNBC reported this morning that their Capitol Hill correspondent reported that the House Democrat resolution has been put on the back burner because the Republicans have a competing resolution ready to go if the House Democrats offer theirs. So they may be in retreat up on Capitol Hill. They're not in retreat at Media Matters for America. They're still over there trying to gin this up for a host of reasons. I've got a couple more sound bites that I want to play for you, first from Wesley Clark and then Ted Koppel. Here's the second bite from the Today Show today. Meredith Vieira says, "What response have you been getting to your e-mail campaign to get Limbaugh off of Armed Forces Radio?"

CLARK: It's a good response. We've had 15,000 people come back and sign up on the website. There are a lot of people out there who see this as an important issue where Congress should set the tone in condemning this kind of rhetoric which disparages our men and women in uniform.


RUSH: They got more votes to condemn MoveOn.org in the Senate than they got to condemn me. This just frosts them. General Clark here -- Ashley Wilkes -- was asked, "Why should Congress be refereeing?" "Well, we've gotta have the other side represented here. If we're going to condemn MoveOn.org, we've gotta condemn Limbaugh, because Limbaugh has a long history of disrespecting and abusing uniformed military personnel." They're throwing their hands up, "Is this what Congress does, referees disputes? Why in the world don't we just get out of Iraq?" "Well, I think we should get out of Iraq obviously, but we need civil discourse in this country." It's just funny to watch these people make total blithering idiots of themselves. Ted Koppel on the Today Show, following Ashley Wilkes, the mad bomber of Bosnia, Matt Lauer talked to him, said, "I watched you smiling as we were just discussing this Rush Limbaugh thing, and with all due respect to the general and to Rush Limbaugh and the members of Congress, is this really, in your opinion, what Americans want their senators to be talking about on the floor of the US Senate?"

KOPPEL: No, let's have them focus on something really important. It's ridiculous. I cannot understand. I mean, this is not the first time Rush Limbaugh has said controversial things or foolish things, and certainly not the first time I've said foolish things, but if that's the best that the US Senate can find to debate and discuss, God help us.

RUSH: (laughing) Putting it in perspective. Now, General Clark, let's talk about him just a second here before we go to the break, the mad bomber of Bosnia. Is this the same Wesley Clark who did nothing to try to prevent the mass murder of 800,000 Rwandans? Is this the same Wesley Clark who was in a position to insist the Clinton administration and the United Nations send help to that region to try to stop the mass murder of 800,000 Rwandans? Is this the same Wesley Clark who has never had to answer for his indifference to that genocide, and, worse, in the face of this genocide, in a public investigation, has never had to answer for it? Is this the same Wesley Clark who was once a Republican who supported President Bush but then changed parties so he could run for president and then attack President Bush? Is this the same Wesley Clark who could not muster any popular support for his hilarious run for the presidency?

You see, this is why the mad bomber of Bosnia can't read a transcript or listen to an audio and speak truthfully about them. He's no longer a general. He's just another in a long line of liberal hacks, ladies and gentlemen. Now, General Clark, we all appreciate your service in the military, but what you're doing now has nothing to do with your service. It has to do with your decision to play mud ball with the left. I don't know about you, Mr. Clark, but I go to bed at night with zero problems. How do you sleep, sir? How do you and the rest of the Clinton administration sleep knowing you did nothing about the genocide in Rwanda?


BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I'm going to go back, I'm going to stay on the mad bomber of Bosnia for a moment, ladies and gentlemen, and that is General Wesley Clark. Do you remember, Michael Moore called George W. Bush a deserter, and Wesley Clark stood up for Michael Moore's right to say that? This is a NewsMax story, January 22nd, 2004, during General Clark's ill-fated run at the Democratic presidential candidacy. "In a response that could turn out to be General Clark's worst blunder yet..." and that's a tough call, because there were so many of them, "...the presidential hopeful said his supporter, firebrand filmmaker and propagandist Michael Moore, had a right to call President Bush a military deserter." We have the audio sound bite. It was a debate in Manchester, New Hampshire, January 22nd, 2004. Peter Jennings said, "General Clark, this is really a simple question about knowing a man by his friends. The other day you had a rally here, and one of the men who stood up to endorse you, was the controversial filmmaker Michael Moore. You said you were delighted with him. At one point Mr. Moore said in front of you that President Bush, saying that he'd like to see you, the general, President Bush, to be called a deserter. Now, that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts, and I was curious to know why you didn't contradict him and whether or not you think it would have been a better example of ethical behavior to have done so."

CLARK: Michael Moore has the right to say whatever he feels about this. But to me it wasn't material. This election is going to be about the future, Peter, and what we have to do is pull this country together. And I'm delighted to have the support of a man like Michael Moore, a great American leader, like Senator George McGovern, and people from Texas like Charlie Stenholm and former secretary of the Navy, John Dalton. We've got support from across the breadth of the Democratic Party, because I believe this party is united --

RUSH: All right.

CLARK: -- in wanting to change --

RUSH: That's enough of that. We got to the point of it. So General Clark is fully supportive of someone's free speech rights to call the president of the United States a deserter, which is a lie. It's this old National Guard story, folks, that they had to cook up forged documents to try to convince people were accurate. By the way, that Dan Rather forged document story may as well come out of Media Matters. It's the kind of stuff that's happening now. Accuse people of doing things they didn't do, accuse people of saying things they didn't say, accuse people of meaning things they didn't mean. Liberals have not yet won the right to define meaning from the words people say. They have appropriated that right for themselves, and it's not going to stand, folks.

So here is a giant hypocrite, General Clark, who sat around and did nothing during a genocide of 800,000 Rwandans, the mad bomber of Bosnia, fully in support of Michael Moore's right to lie under the context and the pretext of the First Amendment. And yet General Clark's all over television yesterday and today, suggesting that I need to be taken off of Armed Forces Radio because I have a long history of disrespect and criticism for the brave men and women in the United States military. No more ridiculous, worthless, totally untrue charge could be made. But he is making it. Now, Peter Jennings, after the answer that you just heard from the mad bomber of Bosnia, said, "Let me ask you about something you mentioned, then, because this question and answer which you and Mr. Moore was involved in, you had a chance to look at the facts. You still feel comfortable with the fact that somebody should be standing up in your presence and calling the president of the United States a deserter?"

CLARK: To be honest with you, I did not look at the facts, Peter. I -- you know, that's Michael Moore's opinion. He's entitled to say that. I've seen -- he's not the only person who's said that. I have not followed up on those facts, and, frankly, it's not relevant to me and why I'm in this campaign.

RUSH: (raspberry) Down the tubes went General Clark's campaign. He really was never a serious candidate in that race, but this finished it off. So there he's admitting the facts don't matter to him. He didn't look at the facts. No, this guy can say what he wants. When it comes to me, didn't look at the facts. He's out there making an absolute blithering fool of himself, doesn't even know it. I really think in his case he doesn't know it. I think he's that dense. I think he is that lazy. I think he's become a political hack now, trying to get noticed, speech fees, this sort of stuff, getting all the accolades from the kook lunatic fringe out there that loves these kinds of guys. Here he is admitting in 2004 the facts didn't matter; free speech is all that mattered. But now, in my case, free speech doesn't matter, as well as the facts not mattering. (laughing) Thank you, General Clark. You people on the left are making this too easy.


END TRANSCRIPT
"

In defense of himself. Rush continues to label and attack liberals. So what. How is that differant from any other day. At least now it's about him. Only dittoheads buy his garbage. the eldery and out of touch with reality.

"Stalinists Have Taken Over the Left

They've gone beyond ideology to totalitarianism.
"

Wilson was so vulnerable last year, that it was close to being Madrid's election to lose. And she did. She has baggage.

Domenici may be able to get some cover by retiring, but Wilson appears almost equally culpable in pressuring Iglesias. She may not be able to avoid investigations in both the Executive and Congressional branches.

So, Pearce becomes the frontrunner on the GOP side by default.

Subtract Madrid and the Democrats have a good competition on their hands.

Truthhunter, thanks for the link to your blog. Far better to do it that way, than just come to this blog and immediately try to take it over because you have a superiority complex.

I'm not sure how much Republican will be able to finger point in 2012, Truth Hunter. Sure, some new faces in the party getting their first shot at national office will be able to point to the failings of the Democrat majority but the old guard might get some public backlash if they try to pin the war on the Dems.

However, in point of fact I believe you're right. More Dem gains in 2008 hold steady in 2010 and maybe 2012 but the pendulum swings back after that.

Gop doublething in full view for all

"Bill O'Reilly, ever the helpful public servant, has laid down the rules for when dissent is acceptable, using the examples of Bruce Springsteen's new album and Sean Penn's visit to Venezuela.

Again, the question: is Penn's support of the anti-American Chavez legitimate dissent? And the answer is no. Because Penn's analysis is based on provable falsehoods. [..] He's in it to diminish his country, no matter what the facts are.

So, Springsteen's okay-with a big reservation about accountability. Penn, not okay because he continues to distort reality. Dissent is only valid when based on sincere beliefs with factual backup.

Hey Billo: Stone, Glass House....figure it out.
"

www.crooksandliars.com

Hopefully
Domenici won't LIVE to see 2008!
Another filthy republican heads for the hills...
(gotta love it)

I was under the impression that Wilson isn't very popular in NM - that she won the last election holding onto Dominici's coattails. And if she was barely able to win an election for a NM district that is more conservative than the state in general, how is she going to have much of a chance state-wide, assuming the Dem's find a solid candidate? This does sound like a major opportunity for the Democrats, if the Republicans can't find a better candidate.

Matthews and tucker have been a sore spot for me. Republcains have fox. What do liberals have, as far as news? i'll give you olberman, the man is on point and a real patriot. But what else. If there was no olberman would the left have any REAL news? MSNBC is not a basion of liberalism as fox would have you all believe. They are just trying to justify what they do for a living.

MSNBC is just as conservative as CNN. Pis*es me off , the garbage by their news and tweedy. I just watch olberman on that station.

I saw them today interviewing the guy who is putting out the support of rush bill. does anyone else see how the MSM is reporting the story. Zero balance. All in defense of rush, for the most part. O'reilly is yet to have both sides of the arguement on his show. Just rush's. WHat are they afraid of? The truth.

"From crooks and liars - did you miss this one Rufas???"

Sorry I was late. Anyone have the whole convo. I was rolling. On line after another. I loved it. Colbert-stewart '12

New Mexico's Udall has a better chance of getting elected than Colorado's Udall!!

Sorry a day late. That was the best interview I've seen. Put a huge smile on my face. ow how can we do that to rush and fox all day everyday :)

From Countdown w/Keith Olbermann 10/02/07
This tasty exchange w/Chris Matthews about his new book."

Thanks for reminding me. Did anyone see Jon stewart last night? He interview matthews also, for his book. He laid it on him. He told him if people follow his recipe for life they will be doomed to an unhappy existance. I have never seen that beofre. Interviewing a writer and destroyin ghis book, on air.

I love it. Finally. Get that liar and propogandists. I love it. play time is over. This is not all fun and games. lying to the edlery and out of touch is not news. never was. The future is now

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13098.html

Diane Denish is great and has a bright future. She's essentially been NM's governor for most of this year, with Richardson off campaigning for president, and she's widely seen as looking to make it official when Richardson leaves office. Senate would be a great opportunity too - she has a record of accomplishment and can present herself as an outside-the-beltway, above-the-fray candidate.

You people love to say this is a chrisitan nation. Liberal ideals are christian ideals. And before you talk about that trump card, aboration, choice. Choice. Jesus doesn't force people to follow him. But those that do are blessed for eternaty. You can't force you rreligon by messing with the laws any more than you can force democracy at teh barrell of a gun to people that have never known or wanted it.

Chris Matthews has always puzzled me as a talking head. There's always been this strange disconnect between his embarrassingly slavish adulation of political figures (please, don't make me repeat the glimmering GWB, the manly-smelling Fred Thompson, etc. We've groaned through them enough) and their actions.

But the always brilliant Jon Stewart-after reading Matthews' new book "Life's a Campaign"-calls it for me: for Tweety, it's all strategy. It doesn't matter if you're doing right or good. It doesn't matter if you are sincere...all that matters is that you play the game. As Stewart has said, that book has been written already. How unintentionally revealing of Chris Matthews.

MATTHEWS: I'm listening to you...

STEWART: No, you're not...

MATTHEWS: Of course I am, you're trashing my book.

STEWART: I'm not trashing your book, I'm trashing your philosophy of life.

Kudos for the best interview from The Daily Show in a long, long time.

From crooks and liars - did you miss this one Rufas???

From Countdown w/Keith Olbermann 10/02/07
This tasty exchange w/Chris Matthews about his new book.

Matthews: "If you're right and believe you're right, like you [Olbermann] do every night, you love the hell out of it. Even when you lose to them, your career just opens up. I have learned the smartest thing you can do is take on somebody bigger than you. You always benefit from taking on somebody above you. As I point out in my book, you take on Bill O'Reilly every night, and you're very smart to do it.

Olbermann: Thank You.

Matthews: It's in my book. Ha!

Wow, the uber-liberal mindset exposed! A real freudian trip!Form irrational beliefs - deliver unrelenting attacks - losing is still winning. Freud's definition of "delusional psychosis.

The only person who gets watched LESS than Olberloon is Chris Matthews.

Seriously.

Can't even find Mathews on the list. Olberloon is at the bottom if you want to find him. the first 15 or 20 entries seem to be all fox except one. Rufas, you are going to get this off the air how??? by posting on this blog? OK, time to go home, only so much humiliation can be offered in one day. facts really aren't your strong suit are they?

3Q'07 (LIVE) FINAL Competitive Program Analysis (excluding breaking news & specials)
3Q'07: 7/02/2007 - 9/28/2007
Ranked On:
HH HH P2+ A25-54
NETWORK PROGRAM NAME DAYS TIME COV AA% AA (000) AA (000) AA (000)
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.7 1,587 2,016 403
CNN CNN PRESENTS _TWTF__ 06:00A -12:00A 1.2 1,186 1,501 433
FOXN HANNITY & COLMES MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.2 1,153 1,447 366
FOXN THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.1 1,051 1,294 314
FOXN ON THE RECORD W/GRETA MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.1 985 1,205 357
FOXN SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.1 1,003 1,193 269
CNN LARRY KING LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 891 1,072 297
FOXN THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 814 957 204
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT) MTWTF__ 11:00P -12:00A 0.8 787 951 328
FOXN AMERICAS NEWSROOM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 844 947 279
FOXN STUDIO B W/S.SMITH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 810 882 201
FOXN YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 769 869 195
FOXN FOX AND FRIENDS MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 796 868 325
FOXN LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 779 854 212
FOXN FOX NEWS LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 780 850 215
CNN LOU DOBBS TONIGHT MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.7 711 830 210
CNN CNN SPECIAL INVEST. UNIT _TWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.7 632 770 256
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 MTWTF__ 10:00P -12:00A 0.6 589 705 264
CNN PAULA ZAHN NOW MTWT___ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 595 704 238
MSNB COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 571 677 222
CNN SITUATION ROOM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 568 636 180
CNN OUT IN THE OPEN MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.5 496 579 188
FOXN FOX & FRIENDS FIRST MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 514 550 232

I'd like to know what the Armed Forces Network is doing broadcasting Limbaugh. AFN has no business doing that.

Whether its Limbaugh, one of his comrades in arms, or Air America people.

After all of the stuff which has gone on with the Air Force at the Academy, with the Chaplains in the Armed Forces, with Generals appearing for fringe political causes, isn't it time the Congress took a look at just how much the military has been infiltrated by the Right Wing?

And to think that it was infiltration by the Left which we used to be worried about.

JasonL, You speak truth. It's going to take more than a few years to fix the mess we're in, and that is optimistic.

Public expectations won't be met and the pendulum will swing again, so '08 will be the high point. Perhaps the GOP is smart to bow out, and then finger point in '12.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

"Colin - guess who beleives Rush hates soldiers and Reid loves them, I give you example A - rufas."

i don't think he hates soldiers, per say. I think he hates liberals and democrats. Many of whom are soldiers. He's just a sorry mislead drug addict old man, ranting. But he is preaching hate to millions. that is where the line must be drawn. He is trying to get his dittoheads to "Pat Tillman" any democrats or liberals over there. He is murdering americans. You just don't know it.

"The military is 100% gop".

Never. He is done. Stick a fork in him. take responsibility for once gop. Stop pointin gthe finger. It's not about me jesse macbeth cnn media matters sean penn or whoever you want to blame. It is rush's fault. He has already paid. With the little reputation he had left. regardless, for all intensive purposes, he is done already, as is o'reilly. Screw their ratings. They can make their millions breaking the country. the important thing is credibility. And they jsut lost the little they had left. Again, not my fault. There's

zoukie, did you want in that threesome on "The View"?

Colin, maybe if we continue to have a rational conversation around the crazy's their brains will explode.

I think it's quite possible that '08 the the Dem's big rally time. If they don't get to 60 in the Senate then, they probably won't. People are going to vote D now to send a message to the Republican party, but once there is a Dem in the White House and Iraq is still a mess and Republicans keep legislative changes slow fervor will die down. It would take a remarkably successful 2 years for the Dems to make me believe they could continue to eat away at the Republican party strongholds.

That is the disconnect between "liberals" and the gop (fascists).

Everything "liberals' believe in ,this coutnry was founded on. The founding fathers were" liberal" in their day. They fled societies like you zouk. They fled th ethought police of their day. They fled the people telling them how to live their lives.

Why do you hate this coutnry so, and everything it's founded on. Why did your ancestors come here if they hate freedom.

Why do you people attacking media matters provide no proof. post one lie from media matters. One zouk. Do it now tough guy. I'll leave nd never come back. If you had anything you would post it. since you can't all independant thinkers know you rfull of it. how much are thye paying you to come here daily?

And as I've said. I represent no one but myself. Republcains are clone slaves, not liberal. the term liberal means:

"Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals - as well as some adherents of other political ideologies - support the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]

Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Social progressivism, the belief that traditions do not carry any inherent value and social practices ought to be continuously adjusted for the greater benefit of humanity, is a common component of liberal ideology. Liberalism is also strongly associated with the belief that human society should be organized in accordance with certain unchangeable and inviolable rights. Different schools of liberalism are based on different conceptions of human rights, but there are some rights that all liberals support, including rights to life, liberty, and property.

Within liberalism, there are two major currents of thought that often compete over the use of the term "liberal" and have been known to clash on many issues. Classical liberals emphasize free private enterprise, individual property rights, laissez-faire economic policy, and freedom of contract, and oppose the welfare state. Classical liberals support equality before the law, but hold that economic inequality, arising from competition in the free market, does not justify wealth redistribution by governments. [4] Social liberals advocate a greater degree of government influence to protect individual rights (in a broad sense), often in the form of anti-discrimination laws. Social liberals support universal education, and many also support the provision of welfare, including benefits for the unemployed, housing for the homeless, and medical care for the sick, all supported by progressive taxation.

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So please. know waht you rtalking about. I don't want you to look foolish.

It's interesting that Hillary is taking something from the George McGovern playbook," Giuliani said in Manchester, N.H., likening her idea to the former South Dakota senator's proposal to send $1,000 to every U.S. resident.

The liberal lawmaker lost in a landslide to President Nixon.

Without naming Clinton, Giuliani also alluded to an appearance this past spring in Selma, Ala., in