God has spoken to Pat Robertson and those who do not vote for Giuliani will fry in the frying pan of hell like some fatty pork bacon.

Giuliani... Learn to spell it well, or risk the sizzle of blaspheme!

Thank you Vice President-elect Pat Robertson!

As NO human being has the power to speak for God I am as suspicious of that prayer as I am disturbed that people lionize this pseudo-Christian Pat Robertson. He has called for death to Chavez to muslims and sullies his reputation by endorsing Giuliani. True Christians follow the example of Jesus by loving people unconditionally. I paraphrase his recent statement "I am not an Evangelist (Christian), I am a businessman" and we know what that means - he's in league with destructive powers. It would be prudent to consider and research the role Pat's Senator Father had in mentoring Prescott Bush. It is fact - not mudslinging. Everyone's past should be considered especially when seeking public office and in leading religious movements.

Know the heart of God.

October 5, 2007 Prophecy:
www.kimclement.com

"...Pray, pray, pray for America. Smile saints, smile for 2008 for who I place in your White House shall know the Spirit of God in a way. A very unique thing I will do, I told you before, there will be joy and celebration for the man I place in the White House shall not be filled with My Spirit when he goes in but when he settles down I will baptize him with fire and the Holy Spirit..."

As a Christian, I now realize that all of these "so called" evangelists such as Pat Roberson and others are not about God's business just their own... Opportunits... Beware other Christians - Do not follow these clowns blindly. They will sell your soul to the devil at the highest bid (Mighty $). This is the God now. Talking about anti-christ... Here's a glimpse of one...

Pat Robertson has sold out. He is a traitor and a shame to the name of Jesus Christ. He is loathed by the righteous and his endorsement of Giuliana is a slap in the face to those who were supporters of his ministry. I predict the demise of the 700 club, and the closing of Regent University, plus a backlash against Robertson so severe that he will be facing bankruptcy in a very short time. His goofy almost comical persona has been a blight on Christianity as a whole, and now his true colors come to light as he abandones all of his values (or should I "supposed" values) and gets in bed with the enemy. He has confirmed that at heart he is a liberal! No doubt GREED, and his love for money has a great deal to do with it.
The true believers who follow the teachings of Christ and uphold Biblical truths are sick to their core, outraged and altogeter FURIOUS with this BOZO Robertson. We vehemently denounce him and believe he is a traitor of the worst kind to the faith, and has caused damage to our causes in the efforts to stand for the family, and uphold the righteous teachings of our Lord. Pat Robertson has devalued families across this nation. He is a hippocrite, and his behavior is that of one possesed by Satan himself. WE the believers - REJECT this man in the name of Jesus and call for him to reverse his endorsement, REPENT before God, and APOLOGIZE to the Christian community for his betrayal. He should be removed from the airways and all financial support should be immediately withdrawn from his so-called ministry, and all students at Regent should walk out! NOBODY should give an credence or support to this lunatic!

For certain the atrocities of murder of the unborn is as important as the threat of terrorism! The homosexual agenda and undermining of marriage and decency is a horrendous evil!
Robertson has afear based dogma about terrorism. He is completely out of balance and I believe this man to be mentally deranged! For him to be taken seriously is a JOKE and his endorsement should be considered as irrelevant as he is.

In the name of righteousness, may ALL believers in Christ turn their back on this very corrupt fake Christian, and may his insidious decision turn to devour him!

SHAME ON YOU PAT ROBERTSON!

Pat Robertson has sold out. He is a traitor and a shame to the name of Jesus Christ. He is loathed by the righteous and his endorsement of Giuliana is a slap in the face to those who were supporters of his ministry. I predict the demise of the 700 club, and the closing of Regent University, plus a backlash against Robertson so severe that he will be facing bankruptcy in a very short time. His goofy almost comical persona has been a blight on Christianity as a whole, and now his true colors come to light as he abandones all of his values (or should I "supposed" values) and gets in bed with the enemy. He has confirmed that at heart he is a liberal! No doubt GREED, and his love for money has a great deal to do with it.
The true believers who follow the teachings of Christ and uphold Biblical truths are sick to their core, outraged and altogeter FURIOUS with this BOZO Robertson. We vehemently denounce him and believe he is a traitor of the worst kind to the faith, and has caused damage to our causes in the efforts to stand for the family, and uphold the righteous teachings of our Lord. Pat Robertson has devalued families across this nation. He is a hippocrite, and his behavior is that of one possesed by Satan himself. WE the believers - REJECT this man in the name of Jesus and call for him to reverse his endorsement, REPENT before God, and APOLOGIZE to the Christian community for his betrayal. He should be removed from the airways and all financial support should be immediately withdrawn from his so-called ministry, and all students at Regent should walk out! NOBODY should give an credence or support to this lunatic!

For certain the atrocities of murder of the unborn is as important as the threat of terrorism! The homosexual agenda and undermining of marriage and decency is a horrendous evil!
Robertson has afear based dogma about terrorism. He is completely out of balance and I believe this man to be mentally deranged! For him to be taken seriously is a JOKE and his endorsement should be considered as irrelevant as he is.

In the name of righteousness, may ALL believers in Christ turn their back on this very corrupt fake Christian, and may his insidious decision turn to devour him!

SHAME ON YOU PAT ROBERTSON!

Sometimes we have to choose the lesser of 2 evils!

Pat Robertson lost a lot of credibility with his endorsement of Giuliani.

You would think Robertson would have consulted other evangelicals and arrived at a consensus if he thought highly of the conservative cause.

To endorse someone that begins their world view holding innocent human life as unvaluable and unworthy of protection is a poor foundation upon which to build a principled government.

It is not to late to reconsider and retract the endorsement Pat Robertson.

Could not one of the reporters assembled at that news conference ask Rudy if he agrees with Pat Robertson that 9/11 was "divine retribution" for the sins of homosexuality and abortion? Giuliani criticized Ron Paul for citing our foreign policy as a motive for 9/11, despite the fact that Cong. Paul's view is shared by CIA analysts and even the 9/11 Commission Report.
Another question: Will Robertson pray for God to smite Rudy Giuliani's enemies?

For years we have had to listen to Robertson and his Christians to only vote for two issues; anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. That was it as far as people like Robertson were concerned. Budget woes impoverishing generations of people? Nope, doesn?t matter. Endless wars killing hundreds of thousands of God?s creations? Nope, doesn?t matter. Raping of the environment, pillaging our educational system, kids without healthcare, genocide in the Sudan? Nope, doesn?t matter. Christians were led to believe that the only issues that would matter to Jesus Himself, would be gay marriage and abortion. Never mind that the number one cause for Christ when He walked the earth was taking care of the neediest in society. Christians were admonished that they would in fact not even be good Christians if they did not vote for the candidates that represented these two values. Luckily for Pat and his cohorts in every election the candidate that represented these values was the republican. That all changed today.
Enter Rudy Giuliani. Rudy is the pseudo-Christian political operative?s worst nightmare. He is the republican candidate but he is the antithesis of everything they have preached for years. Rudy is twice divorced. Not only that, but while he was condemning Bill Clinton, Rudy was sleeping with his mistress, while still married to his second wife, with his kids sleeping down the hall. It gets worse for the Robertson?s of the world though. Rudy is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. Mix in his ties to Bernard Kerik and the mob and you have a recipe for disaster. There is no way that Pat Robertson could cast his lot with Rudy?
Oops, he just did. Today, Pat Robertson endorsed Rudy Giuliani for president. After years of vociferously advocating that Christians only vote for the two Rovian wedge issues, Robertson shows us what he really has been all along, a liar.
He comes off as worse than a liar though because he did not have to make this choice. He could have waited and seen if it would have been Rudy against Hillary and played the ?lesser of two evils card? but he didn?t. He chose Rudy in the primary over Dr. Ron Paul, John McCain, and Mike Huckaby. At least Paul, McCain and Huckaby are all pro-life and anti-gay marriage. Huckaby is actually a pastor! In choosing Rudy over these three men who embodied what he has preached for years, Robertson reveals himself for what he truly has been all along. Not only a liar, Pat Robertson has been nothing more than a political puppet and republican shill hiding behind Jesus Christ for far too long now. He is now exposed fully as an operative of the Republican Party, fooling Christians all the while.
It is however an opportunity for Christians to reassess what their vote is supposed to mean. It can be so much more than the cynical two issue mandate which is designed to distract us from the other important issues of our times. Poverty should matter to Christians. War and death should matter to Christians.
There is so much at stake in 2008. It deserves better than hypocritical men claiming the mantle of Christ but speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Pat Robertson is just a microcosm of what is wrong with the majority of the would-be Christian leaders today. They have embraced a political agenda over the agenda of Jesus Christ. That would be bad enough but they take it a step further to merge the two and claim that their political agenda is the agenda of Christ. Then they tell you as Christians that if you do not embrace it as well, then you are somehow not being a good Christian. We have been sold a bill of goods that we should have inspected closer. The Bible tells us we are to discern. It says that if the blind leads the blind they will both fall into a pit and into a pit we have fallen. With Pat Robertson shaking Rudy Giuliani?s hand and laughing all the way down. Jesus Christ deserves better than the hypocrisy of man. I Support Dr. Ron Paul.

Well, this can only help Mr. Giuliani (probably not). Pity, there appears to be an element of society so easily influenced they'll (likely) vote based solely on the endorsement of Mr. Robertson. If ever there was a time for Americans of every stripe to think critically about presidential candidates it is in this time prior to November '08. I urge everyone to read/watch/listen, no, to study, several media sources; more than one newspaper, more than one television/radio station, more than one weekly magazine. We need moderates who will work together to achieve consensus. Whether far right or left, categorization as anything but a moderate should consign a politician to irrelevence; decisions should be made "in the middle". Just an opinion...

mibrooks27,

You are right. The Religious Right will throw their support behind Rudy, gain a presidency and lose their SOUL. The Bible says " What gain th a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?"

Never again will I be moved or even listen to anything these religious hypocrites have to say.

Pat Robertson said 911 happen because of America's tolerance for gays and abortions. So what does Pat Robertson do.. he throws his support behind a man that embraces anti-Christ positions such as gays and abortion. What Pat did doesn't make no sense for a true Believer.

For all you christians out there you should ask your selves W.W.J.D.????

So pro-choice and pro-gay Giuliani (Mayor of 9/11) was endorsed by Pat Robertson, whose most notable comments not about Jews or magic protein shakes were those blaming American tolerance of homosexuality and abortion for 9/11.

Awesome!

With Robertson's endorsement, now all Rudy needs is Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, and he has the trifecta. For those who yammer on about Recontructionists taking over, to misquote Jesus, "Unless your paranoia exceeds that of the Theonomists, you shall not enter the Kingdom of heaven." Getting Pat R's endorsement is like a democrat getting Lydon LaRouche's endorsement. Who's next for Rudy--Fred Phelp?

The Christian-right fringe of the electorate ultimately will be the "jury" for the Giuliani-Robertson partnership.

A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people...

It may be that a pathological liar is different from a normal liar in that a pathological liar believes the lie he or she is telling to be true--at least in public--and is "playing" the role...

He or she sometimes is seen to have a serious mental problem that needs to be rectified.

Mitt Romney, the weird Mormon is a pathological liar !

He was NOT the "miracle" of any Olympics and he disguised tax increases in Massachusetts as Governor. He does not represent the truth in his story...

He will also disguise his agenda and Foreign Policy to The American People.

The United States does NOT need a player (like Romney), as President - we already have one in Bush and you see where that got the U.S. in the geopolitical arena !

Is Falwell too deadish to get into the act? I hear McCain could use endorsement as an offset. What a "thriller" we've got going here! Pass the popcorn indeed.

Pat Robertson is a first class hypocrite. How can he support a man who has been married three times, is pro homosexual and in favor of the murder of hundreds of millions of unborn babies. Pat I think your main problem with Mitt Romney is he is in a church that does not believe in a paid ministry. You just confirmed what I already suspected about you, The only thing you stand for is the almighty millions of dollars that you deceive people into sending you to support your lavish lifestyle. Mitt Romney is a very dedicated member of his church but all his money came from his own hard work in business, not from deceiving people that you stand and will fight for something then stab them in the back, like you just did. Shame on you Pat Robertson.

It is now more evident than ever that anti-Islam sentiments will become the acceptable norm and the royal flush issue of present-day politics. Oh what I'd give to move to Finland.

I'm stunned that Robertson would do this.

I agree with Marpatalinjug's comment:

"Now, with his public endorsement of Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential aspirant, he betrays all his religious principles and beliefs grievously...

this ill-advised and reckless endorsment will lose all the credibility that he has enjoyed all these years."

It makes no sense unless Robertson has never believed what he's been saying all this time.

Doesn't he know that if the nation adopted values like Giuliani's, (isn't the president supposed to be our example?) the American family would fracture so badly that no military could keep us safe?

Yonkers, New York

Pat Robertson has long sold himself, and financially profitably, as a true born-again Christian and social conservative.

Now, with his public endorsement of Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential aspirant, he betrays all his religious principles and beliefs wrievously.

He will be this ill-advised and reckless endorsment lose all the credibility that he has enjoyed all these years.

Now he is simply another politician undeserving of the respect and support of his huge religious flock.
MarPatalinjug@aol.com

Now

Giulani has not only shown how desperate he is but also his stupidity. An endorsement from a right wing "Christian" Fundamentalist Zealot is more than the Kiss of Death; It's the Coup De Gras.

Is there a reason Chris C did not qute the bizarre statements from Pat Robertson and the response from the campaign of Guilani to such bizarre thoughts?
Had this been a Democrat, Chris probably would have.

You've been punked and pwn3d, People Of Faith. Pat's been in the blood diamond business for decades. Nobody trying to get elected gives a crap about abortion anymore, there aren't enough of you to matter now. They have moved on to end-time-dominionist scary-boo brown Moo-slimes under your bed as the cover for job one -- making piles of cash.

Remember Hugo Chavez? How can Robertson call for his assassination and then back a candidate whose law firm has been the most prominent U.S. lobbyist for the Venezuelan strongman's oil company.

And to think that he'd do this while Venezuela is driving our gas prices toward $4 per gallon.

Please! Quick, someone pinch me.

I am delirious with delight.

Am I dreaming? Someone, wake me!

My party has so much money, it makes me blush.

Even Wall Street and the oil companies keep sending checks. Who knew they were closet democrats?

Thank You rev roberston for endorsing "Rudy-911"

Thank You bush-lite for just being "you"

Thank you GOP.

Thank you for all you have done.

Without you, our rule for the next 20-years would not be possible.

Thank you. Thank You!

PS:
Senator Larry Craig, please continue the fight to clear your name and seek re-election.
You owe it to your family and the Great State of Idaho!

Rudolph Guiliani might be the most overrated candidate in the pipes right now. He is too deomocrat to get my vote. Robertson's endorsement only adds to the suspicion that he is getting aligned with evangelicals only as the lesser of all evils.

I personally do not care a whit for Pat Robertson -- I think he's a fool and a phony. But to the extent that he represents some folks in the so-called Christian Right, his endorsement helps Giuliani.

This is because any successful GOP candidate will have to be broadly acceptable to all branches of the party. Romney has worked hard to make himself acceptable, now Giuliani is following suit. There are still many evangelical Christians who won't or can't vote for Giuliani, because of his several marriages or his positions on abortion.

But maybe Robertson's support will at least block any 3rd-party candidacy.

Only "fringe" fundie voters would oppose a pro-choice candidate? Yeah, right. Let's cut to the chase. Wingnut RepubTard fundies would do anything to defeat a Clinton. They still think Whitewater and the death of Foster are actually issues with most voters. A Guiliani nomination will still splinter the fundie vote.

This is fabulous news.

Let's just swear in Hillary tomorrow and get the country back on track.

LMAO

When I learned Pat Robertson endorsed Guliani...it made literally ill. Just shows he's in on the whole thing. Real christians wouldnt touch the crossdresser with a 10 ft pole. The closest thing to truth is Ron Paul...is that what Christians do? support the truth? Light and dark dont mix.

LOL. But at least Keith you learned not to post the same comment four times!

Thank You, Thank You I owe it all to irizarryrafael his narrow minded views made me what I am today!

Another day of civil discourse is coming to a close I see.

I have to agree with another poster I saw: Pat Robertson...is that guy still alive?

Keith_conley

And the award for the idiot that can't spell goes to:

Keith_conley Congrats!!!!

Keith_conley

And the award for the fool that can't spell goes to:

Keith_conley Congrats!!!!

Keith_conley

And the award for the idiot that can't spell goes to:

Keith_conley Congrats!!!!

Keith_conley

And the award for the idiot that can't spell goes to:

Keith_conley Congrats!!!!

Keith_conley

And the award for the fool that can't spell goes to:

Keith_conley Congrats!!!!

An this years "Conservative Religious Leaders Comedy Award" goes to........it's a tie Pat Robertson and everyone else in the room. Congradulations and continue to keep us laughing as you do so well.

Pat Robertson has become a joke, did it to himself. He's now the Al Sharpton of white people. A loud mouth, a set of stock sound bytes, little else. Why the press flocks to either is a mystery.

Values are tought at home not by Giuliani nor Pat nor anybody but your own self at home!!! remember that!

Love that people sy I now will not vote for Giuliani because of Pat! Please you know how many people vote for prez in America? drug dealers, prostitutes, etc etc you just don't know about it! So if Osama would endorse Mrs Clinton would you still vote for her? ah?

Idiots

Let's talk about Bill Clinton!!!! He was so perfect and so honest and great President! People Clinton cheated on his wife Mrs. Clintoon but, it was ok for him to do so right? The left thinks so! But, Giuliani did it to and it is bad for him but, not for Clinton? That's hypocrate right there. At least Giuliani never hide it or lied about it! You people talk like if you never have committed a sin! Oh Giuliani is so bad he married three times Oh my God!!!! What a tragedy he can't be Prez! People please is a boring repetitive acusation that really who cares! Go Rudy 2008! With Pat or not he will get the nomination!

When the Hypocrite was endorsed by the Evangelical Charlatan, was the Hypocrite accompanied by his first wife, his second wife, his third, or his current mistress?
It seems that the Evangelical Charlatan dosen't mind which one, as long as he.....what?

Rude D approves of abortion and of gay marriage. He also accepted money from Citco, whose boss in Venezuela is Chavez.

Robertson said Chavez should be assassinated.
Robertson is against abortion.
Robertson has homophobia.

So why is Robertson endorsing Rude D?

It must be another one of God's mysteries of life.

Robertson endorsing Guiliani is like the kiss of death. God help them both but neither would get my vote.

Oh that's just "great". Giulianni is now ruined. Now all the wackos will be badgering Giulianni into religious-right-wingnut positions and public statements.

Who am I gonna vote for NOW?

I'm reading a lot of comments like 'half a loaf is better than none', which seems to assume that any Republican winning in '08 is better than any Democrat in '08.

Surely this is the key problem here. Robertson (and Dobson too) are so ensconced in the "Republican-is-God's-party" camp that they have allowed their core values to be set aside.

Why don't people actually look at some facts for themselves? Surely an informed people will examine the policies of EVERY candidate - Democrat as well as Republican - and determine who they want to vote for. The label must come second to the actual product - you know, the old saying: the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

For example, if you are (like me) an evangelical christian, surely you will look at the policies and actions of the candidates, not the whether they have an R or a D after their name.

E.g.: Giuliani's position on marriage versus Clinton's position; Giuliani's position on abortion vs Clinton's position; Giuliani's position on Israel vs Clinton's position; Giuliani's church attendance vs Clinton's etc. Then substitute the name Obama for Clinton, then Romney for Giuliani, and so on.

I realise this takes time and effort, but if you are effectively electing the President of the Free World, surely that is worth it???

A womanizing, two-timing, twice divorced cad endorsed by a bozo who preaches against womanizing till spit-spray hits the lectern. What next, Dick Cheney endorses PETA.

You got that right, jaynashvl. Robertson made a fortune bashing gays - as did Falwell and the rest of their "Christian" buddies. But if that well is running dry, it's time to find a new way to scare the faithful into contributing. Gotta maintain those mansions, private jets and full time servants somehow!

Whatever it takes.

Not that Pat Robertson's endorsement carries all that much weight anymore (regardless of how many times he's referred to as a "pillar" or "leader"), but this choice of Rudy is just bizarre. A huge chunk of Robertson's fortune and (former) power was made on the backs of gay people he's relentlessly whipped and flogged, belitted and ridiculed for the past 30 years. We made him rich and famous as he used us as fund-raising cannon fodder. Now, Robertson says a candidate's stance on social issues should not keep a conservative evangelical from voting for Rudy. Huh??? Until today, one of THE most important issues WAS a candidate's attitude toward gays. Rev. Robertson, why in heaven have you spent so much time causing so much pain for so many people and their families if, after all, it wasn't so important? Because it never was; Robertson found a cash cow in homosexuality that he could milk and since it's about dried up, he's moving on to the next one, that being the Islamist threat. Don't believe me? Just watch and see.

So what did it cost for this snake-oil salesmans' endorsement,30 pieces of silver(aka:millions of tax free dollars from the Government)or something like that.Is that why there are so many Clinton haters? Did Bill take away your(my/our)money while in office? Did rudy promise more jobs to these incompetent morons? Haven't they done enough to ruin this great nation?These clowns are the worst that represent America to the world. How ANY sane person can still listen to this idiot is beyond me. Party of values,LMFAO. The only values they have are free money and their own azz!

Yeehaw, KingZouk, one of the biggest grandstanders on wp boards has arrived on the scene! Where's them moonbats commin' from! Must be a link somewheres!

Maybe those leading the "reason-based" lifestyle like Claudia are just attracted to this thread like honey, and are outnumbering the Fox News groupies? Why? Yet another example of delicious right-wing hypocrisy - the gift that keeps on giving, apparently. Robertson & Rudy G. apparently didn't realize that this would be about as unintentionally funny as the Larry Craig "situation." Because WE know that almost all of the posters here saying they "never really were Robertson supporters" and "he doesn't speak for me" were saying "you tell 'em Pat" when he blamed 9/11 on gays. And now he endorses a candidate like Rudy! The disillusionment must be suffocating!

It's just politics people. It's a rare candidate who will not compromise his principles to get votes. No one will remember this endorsement a few months from now.

As an evangelical Christian, I was disappointed when leaders of the religious right grew close with The Washington Times/Reverend Moon who says he came to Earth to finish the job Jesus failed to finish. At that time they said that the Times/Moon gets the vote out. Now Robertson, who persecuted the Clintons for working out their problems and stayed together to save their marriage, praises a man who moved his mistress in with his family! How can anyone of faith declare that a man who does that without regret is okay? This is why Jesus despised what the Pharisees represented in His day.

How sad, IMGoph, that people like Robertson and Falwell have hijacked Christianity. To many people, they are synonymous. The voices of people like you, who apparently don't buy into their hate speech, are not heard.

chris,

can you tell me why you paint "people of faith" with such a broad brush? there are plenty of people who identify as christians as the most important thing in their lives, and they DON'T feel that islamoterrorism or whatever other bogus bogeyman moniker that these people come up with is the most important thing to worry about. these people care about the poor, the homeless, the destitute. it would be the same if you decided that all blacks feel the same way about something, or all gays. stop believing the tripe that the far-right branch of christianity feeds to you as "gospel truth"

it gets more interesting...

'Rudy's willingness to accept Pat Robertson's endorsement -- despite his agreement that America "deserved" to be attacked on 9/11 -- is discomfiting at least one major social conservative group that disagreed with Robertson over his interpretation of the disaster.

In an interview with Election Central, a top official at the Family Research Council, one of the most prominent religious-conservative groups in the country, suggested that Rudy's acceptance of Robertson's endorsement should make one wonder whether Rudy agrees with Robertson's interpretation of the event that killed nearly 3,000 of Rudy's constitutents and now forms the basis of his campaign.

"9/11 is what Rudy's campaign is fundamentally based on," Charmaine Yoest, a vice president at Family Research Council Action, told us. "This does beg the question -- does Rudy agree with Robertson's comments about 9/11?"

Yoest also added that it should be asked whether Rudy agrees with Robertson on a whole host of other issues, such as Robertson's defense of China's one-child policy.

Good questions. Will anyone else ask them?'

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/top_conservative_group_wants_to_know_does_rudy_agree_with_robertson_on_911.php

Oh please spammer. If Robertson is a "Christian," I'm Napoleon. I can't believe you were fooled for so long.

Giuliani is nothing more than a Democrat trying to wear Republican clothing. They don't fit! Some may even say he's a "wolf in sheep's clothing". At first I thought this was some kind of media mistake and simply could not believe the news that Robertson actually did this.

Back in 2001, Bush said, "If you support terrorism then you ARE a terrorist." Using this same logic, Pat Robertson seems to now support homosexual marriage and the murder of babies. What was this long time Christian leader thinking? Or was he? Unbelievable!

What a surprise one authoritarian endorses another authoritarian.

When are we ever going to learn than when we try to marry politics and religion together we ultimately weaken both?

Hypocrite politicians and hypocrite religious leaders kissing up to each other along with the arrogant "values voters" cheering on the sidelines is truly the theatre of the absurd. America, we deserve a whole lot better than this crap.

'a leading religious advocate '

LOL -- who advocates murdeing people so he can buy their oil company, and who likes to hang out with murderous dictators like Charles Taylor of Liberia.

Since when does Pat Robertson tell me, as a christian, who is and who isn't acceptable for me to vote for. He does not speak for a large number of Bible believing folks such as myself. I knew there was a reason I stopped watching the 700 Club years ago!

Have any more right wing "Christian" Republicans been caught soliciting sex from men today? Just curious.

This is the funniest news I've read in a long time! Thanks for throwing in the towel for the Christian political movement, Rev. Robertson. Supporting a gay rights, thrice-divorced, abortion rights candidate concedes what many suspected: your movements has nothing to do with Christian principles and everything to do with power and money. I guess bashing gays is no longer in the GOP playbook, and those formerly evil Western civilization destroying immoral sexual perverts are now to be replaced by bloodthirsty Islamofascists who are coming to kill our children.

I am very happy to see that the hypocritical evangelical charlatan has finally endorsed the hypocritycal political right-winger.
mmm...the question is...did Charlatan Paterson get a call from Heaven on his celestial iPhone, or there was an apparition? he-he-he-he, I can hardly contain my laughter.

All the hypocrites aren't on the left. This endorsement hurts Rudy in my humble opinion. Robertson support is paper thin!

so getting an endorsment from a leading religious advocate is somehow to be avoided but sucking up to wacko Kos and refusing to debate on fox is mainstream.

Only in Lib lalaland. Yesterday Kos was hoping for a big loss in Iraq. who will get the rosie endorsment. I am on the edge of my seat.

HHHhoooowwwwlllllll.

where did all you moonbats come from today? Is there a link on Daily Kos? Are you all still hoping for enormous US casualties and a losing effort in Iraq so you can win an election? Are you praying (to whatever god that is) for a recession so the suffering can be blamed on Bush?

It is evident by your posts here that you are not much the thinking sort and prefer the visceral reaction replete with insults and long boring rants and flames against anyone who dares disagree with your tyranical world view.

I encourage you to keep up the good work. your congress is at an all time low approval rating, your legislation is the slowest in history, your leaders are the most ineffective in decades, your think tanks are a laughingstock, your books don't sell, your TV shows go out to no audience, your radio is dead air.

the policies your candidates espouse are immediately rejected by the voters - how about 5000 bucks to every kid - withdrawn the same week, - how about licenses for illegals, rejected by 75% of the voters.

As I said - keep it up. I think we can acheive a 42 state GOP sweep - just like McGovern, Dukakis, Carter, etc.

Pat Robertson --- the biggest hypocrite of all. It is sickening the these republicans are becoming like the ROMANS --- politically and morally twisted in so many ways. Robertson - the champion of moral and family values being corrupted by politics.

Actually Romney isn't laughing; he's crying. He was trying to get Robertson's endorsement too and lost out. All the Republicans are gunning for the votes of the party's faux Christian base.

Please remind me why any candidate trying to appeal to the majority of Americans (or, I guess, voting Americans) would want the endorsement of a guy who has, among other ludicrous things, called for the assasination of a foreign ruler, blamed hurricanes on America's (limited) tolerance for gays, and described feminism as "encourag[ing] women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." Shouldn't any respectable candidate be running away from this guy?

I had to read this a second time, I am laughing so hard!

One more for Rudy!!! America, Clinton is not a joke it's serious threat we have to stop her from being president. Rudy is the man. Here is my ticket for 2008 Giuliani/McCain 2008.

Wan't it Robertson who for years claimed that Russia was the Anti-Christ and after the tsunami, claimed that the victims themselves were responsible because God was angry with them? This man has been a certified nut job for years and now we are supposed to believe that Rudy is a "Christian"? LOL!
Thanks for the laugh of the month Robertson. Romney will be thanking you too, because people will actually be running the OTHER way.

Perfect - The wacko Christian Evalgelicals who have one issue (Roe vs Wade) make a pact with Guiliani (Bush on steroids) who
will appoint a Conservative Supreme Court

and what do we get?

A President who:
- supports the Iraq war
- is against universal Health Care
- rewrites history and makes up facts as he goes along
- placed the Disaster Centre in the World Trade Center against all common sense advice
- wandered around after the disaster and made it look like he was helping people when, in fact, the enemy had blown up his command center and he had no other place to go
- believes and practices Corporate Welfare
- will say anything, do anything to get a vote
- has very poor personnel judgement
- has no foreign policy experience

It seems pretty logical to me. One Nazi hypocrite deserves the endorsement of another.

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FAMILY-VALUES endorses NO-FAMILY-VALUES. You just got to love these Repuke hypocrites!

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Who would want the endorsement of that schmuck? Remember his remark that we should assassinate Hugo Chavez. He is a "Christian" that endorses murder for Christ's sake. Rudy ain't getting my vote.

WV4Huckabee 12:59PM Nov 7th 2007

Well this just confirms my thought that many of the supposed conservative evangelical leaders are not truly interested in the values they preach. How can a man who has spend years pleading for Americans to fight against abortion stand in support of a man who is totally in favor of abortion rights? Does Robertson actually believe Rudy will pick Supreme Court justices who will align themselves with Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito?? How can Pat, after day-after-day telling us about the dangers of the homosexual agenda and its battle against traditional marriage, endorse a candidate who is in favor of gay unions and refuses to support -in either his political or private life- the santity of marriage? For years I have defended Robertson and his organization against people who attacked him as being a phoney. I think maybe they were right.

mcroriel, Hillary is an extremely devout Christian. She attends the same conservative prayer group on Capitol Hill as Santorum and Brownback. Her beliefs are probably a lot closer to Robertson's than Giuliani's are. Yet more proof that Robertson cares more about politics than religion.
(reference: http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html)

Pat Robertson, the preacher who has direct connections with the BIG GUY, endorsed the Rudy G? No kidding?

Well, that's good enough for me. Why, pshaw, now I'll vote for Rudy no matter what color panties or dress he(?) wears.

GAWD!!! What a crock of crap.

mcroriel - Hillary hadn't set foot in a church in years. Now, she appears in an assortment of black chruches...almost every place but a Methodist church. She has an *advisor* who is a Methodist paster. An actual honest-to-god regualr attending Methodist is John Edwrds and his wife.

Ah, the ever-present hypocracy of the "religious" right. Never had a principle they wouldn't sell out on. Robertson is a joke - why would anyone be concerned with his opinion? Oh, I remember, all those religious sheep that think all the answers come from preachers and some magic book - seems they have a bit of a problem with independent thought. THey'd have to if they followed anything this nutcase had to say.

LOL. It's the other one - the "Reverend" Falwell - who died. He's looking up at us from down below even as we speak.

This story is Shocking...Pat Robertson is still alive?? Did anyone else know this?

Well said, Bob. Apparently Robertson has now decided he hates Muslims even more than liberals and queers.

Let's get this straight. Robertson is supposedly a religious leader who supposedly cares about social values. However, Robertson now says that although he and Giuliani disagree on the issues that Robertson has heretofore regarded as paramount, he is now endorsing Rudy because the REAL issue is Islamic terrorism and on that score, Rudy is the man. This is theater of the absurd. Robertson has based his entire professional life, his entire ministry, on exhorting Americans to adhere to certain values. Now he endorses a candidate who is in complete opposition to the very values that Robertson has said for years that he stands for and the explanation is that something else is now more important? Huh? And that "something else" is terrorism, with which Giuliani has little or no experience with, unless you count his incompetent preparation and response for the 9-11 attacks on New York. What lunkhead would buy this? You'd have to have baloney for brains to believe that Robertson is anything other than a total fraud.

These two men scare the beejesus outta me

http://www.theweeklydonut.org/index.php/category/pat-robertson/
http://www.theweeklydonut.org/index.php/2007/10/29/rudy-ghouliani/

BAGHDAD, Nov. 6 -- Six American soldiers were killed in three separate attacks in Iraq on Monday, the military said Tuesday, taking the number of deaths this year to 852. The toll makes 2007 the deadliest year of the war for United States troops.

'Memo to Rudy Giuliani: Jokes about torture are not funny or wise, especially when one of your presidential rivals was a victim of torture himself.

The ex-mayor learned that the hard way Tuesday after an ally of John McCain - the Arizona senator tortured as a Vietnam War POW - demanded that Giuliani apologize for recent comments comparing his campaign schedule to "sleep deprivation."
"His hyperbole is an insult to all American soldiers who have had to endure real torture," said retired Marine Sgt. Maj. Paul Chevalier, chairman of McCain's New Hampshire Veterans Advisory Committee.

Giuliani earned the bitter slapdown after seeming to belittle Democrats who called sleep deprivation a form of torture.
"They talk about sleep deprivation," Giuliani told Iowa voters two weeks ago. "I mean, on that theory, I'm getting tortured running for President of the United States. That's plain silly."
Orson Swindle, a McCain friend and fellow prisoner in Vietnam, says he underwent sleep deprivation for up to 20 days, and considered that torture.

McCain had already rebuked Giuliani for expressing uncertainty about whether waterboarding - a form of simulated drowning used since the Spanish Inquisition - constituted torture.'

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/11/07/2007-11-07_john_mccain_unamused_with_rudy_giulianis-3.html

I bet Pat Robertson looks delightful in a dress and wig, too.

Has anyone noticed that Hillary's a devout Methodist? Pat Robertson would make an endorsment of Satan himself if he though it would beat Hillary.

This is not religion, these are the old southern democrats rebranded as republicans full of the same hate and ignorance in the name of Jesus

Leon

You sure have a lot of time to rant incoherent, and make unfounded assumptions, don't you?

'So tell me Claudia - how would you propose stopping these
attacks? How would you propose developing intelligence?

You are against wiretapping the communications of suspected terrorists. '

No, I'm all for it. Just get a warrant so we stillhave a 4th amendment.

'You are against detaining and interrogating suspected terrorists.'

Wrong again. 'Suspected' means having some proof, not a sweep of an entire area. Interogaton is fine, torture which produces false results is not.

' You are obviously against any use of force against suspected terrorists. '

No-- but there better be proof, as was the standard in the past.

'According to you, we can't take pre-empting, or preventative action. '

That's worked really well in Iraq, hasn't it. Whci was never a threat to us to begin with.

'Besides - our military is hopeless broken according to you.'

Ask the military. they'r the ones saying it.

'We could have a smoking gun, and you would be against taking action.'

We don't have a smoking gun, do we? And we certainly didn't in Iraq, did we?

'I'm sure you are going to say that capturing Bin-Laden will automatically put an end to any and all terrorist attacks, and if that is what you intend to say - I suggest you think again.'

No, but it might help to stop ignoring him while he buildsup al queda in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It might help to actually go after the person who caused 9/11, mightn't it? Might show the world that we are actually competent, and interested in something besides oil.

It might also help to hold the Saudis accountable, since they claim they knew 9/11 was coming and didn' tell us about. But no,, instead they come here and get a big hug and kiss from their old friend, gwb.

vegasgirl1 - Correction. Political operatives like Rove and Matlin and Clinton's James Carville have. Thy gin up the partisans in these cultural rows, very much like the one we are embarked upon here, and the mud get slung and people express hatred and bigotry from all sides without looking at what each other are saying. I'm no fan of the Fundimentalist movement and especially of the leaders like Dobson and Robertson, but the people that more or less follow them are generll pretty decent folk. We need to recognize that. They do a lot of good and their hearts are in the right place. They are misled, at times, but so are we. The Kennedy's and Clinton's have the same devisive mesage as the Robertson's of the world and are just as wicked and stupid and self serving. Give me a rufus or a KOZ or a claudia or mark_from_austin any day over one of them or the fanatical sorm troopers that tout their meaningless propaganda and talking points.

The notion that only "Christians" do selfless things for their community is absurd, mibrook. I can't believe that's actually your point. If that's what you actually believe, I feel sorry for you.

Brittman1 _ Duh! I'm an angry liberal, not one of those "people of faith". I am merely pointing out to you that those "peple of faith", en mass, show more concern for their fellow men than liberals like you ever have. Sending money to some pro-abortion group or some feminst cause, to a local arts council or an NPR membership drive, is a far cry from spending time in a soup kichen feeding he homeless. And, that is exactly what thousands of those people of faith do every day. You rarely, if ever, will encounter some left wing twit there. Sort of makes your series of posts appear rather cravn and self serving and igotted and just plain stupid.

Why want anyone WANT Pat Robertson's endorsement? I am sorry, but I do not agree with your assertion that Pat Robertson is influential. I think he lost all respect and credibility a long time ago. I was baffled to see Guiliani with him today. I do not understand how anyone can take Pat Robertson seriously.
He exploits people who have real faith. His faith is fake. He uses prayer and healing as a money-making tool. He helped his son Gordon cheat on his wife. He is prideful and boastful and his self-aggrandizing makes me sick. He is a gossip monger and a meddler. He is totally immoral and they all feign holiness on that tv show for money. They are sleaze. As a Christian, it hurts to see so many faithful souls looking to them for prayer and healing and sending them money. I will not be voting for Giuliani, not now, no way.

The GOP has given us eight long years of incompetence and intolerance. They have screwed up virtually everything they touched.

Democrats Try To Defund War In Iraq - Again Congressional Democrats on Tuesday set in motion another showdown with President Bush over the Iraq war when they advanced a military spending bill without extra funds for the conflict

Republicans Keep Cheney Impeachment Alive House Republicans on Tuesday prevented Democratic leaders from blocking a resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney.

Roadside Bombings At Three-Year Low Roadside bomb attacks receded to a three-year low last month while weapons cache finds have doubled from October 2006, Multi-National Force-Iraq officials said Tuesday

See what the Dems give you vs what the GOPs give?

In response to mibrooks27: No one denies the good work Christians do to help the poor, and they have my deep respect for it. It's people like Robertson and his ilk (and their naked hypocrisy). Too bad you don't apparently understand that.
As for you, kingofzouk, you want to talk about moonbats? Just look at the GOP; it has more than its share.
You might recall how ridiculous the right acted during the Clinton years. Sorry, but the GOP helped create the poisonous, partisan atmosphere we live in today. Deal with it.

The list? A seemingly unending series of bad policy proposals and loopy values that liberals have championed during the course of decades. What all of these subjects have in common is that they upended common sense in favor of a fit of moral superiority and emotional feel-goodism. They are a history of liberal disasters. All backfired or were proved dead wrong. Sometimes they were outright lethal. Collectively they are part and parcel of the real reason the once honorable term "liberal" has won such disdain from so many Americans when it isn't being hooted out of a serious policy discussion with laughter. And lying just under the surface of all the current crop of polls that predict a Democrat victory in the race for the White House is the lurking reality that any candidate who makes a point of flying the liberal flag stands a serious chance of being defeated outright. Why, after all, do you think Senator Clinton hemmed and hawed her way through the driver's license issue in last week's debate?

Here's just a handful of my personal favorites:
Forced School Busing
Welfare
Luxury Tax
Alternative Minimum Tax
Bringing Peace to Vietnam and Cambodia
Free Love
Drugs
TOO SUM UP: Whether it was education policy, welfare policy, economic policy, foreign policy or social policy, time after time after time what became the guiding lights of modern American liberalism proved to be utter disasters. Obvious consequences were ignored and unintended consequences were rampant. All too frequently people who were supposed to be helped -- African-Americans, the poor, the Vietnamese and Cambodians, women, the young -- were severely harmed. Most disturbingly, the proponents of these policies seemed to simply shrug their shoulders at the results and move straight on the next disaster.

Bereft of common sense, wreaking havoc on whole sections of the American and global population, it is still being championed by followers utterly oblivious to the consequences already long on the record.

"I have a million ideas," Senator Clinton said recently, thoughtfully adding that "the country can't afford them all."

http://spectator.org/util/print.asp?art_id=12269

I am registered as an independent, but I'll admit I tend to lean towards the democrats. Before this revelation, if the presidential race had ended up as a contest between Giuliani and Clinton, I would have seriously considered Giuliani. Some of Clinton's socialist policies are scary.

However, now Giuliani's willingness to be associated with a religious nut like Robertson concerns me. I wonder how much influence these religious people have over him. Will he maintain his reasonable stance on social issues like abortion and gay rights or will he start making decisions based on what the religious right wants? Government by religious nut policy is more scary than socialism.

If you want people to read your posts, cjohnson, perhaps you should try making them a wee bit shorter than book length.

So you people are now calling hate speech "satire" huh? Isn't that special? :)

Claudia Long,
I thought that liberals didn't understand "satire", and typically show the rest of America how thin-skinned they are - especially when a demented crackpot like Anne Coulter goes off on one of her satiric riffs against liberalism.

Of course - liberals like you would stop at nothing to shut a loudmouth like Anne Coulter down, because quite frankly - its only acceptable when a liberal does it.

And since you are on the topic of civil rights - people like you believe in civil rights only for the type of people that you deem acceptable - mainly left-wing agitators.

People like you view the right as fascist, yet - people like you also advocate silencing any opinion, any voice that you disagree with.

People like you love to criminalize political disagreements.

Its as though only those on the left could possibly ever tell the rest of us the truth.

I'll take your spew on Bin Laden. Of course, being the left-wing ostrich that you are - you seek to legitimize the view points of Osama Bin Laden by alleging that he accomplished what he wanted to accomplish - with help from the "fascist right wingers" who control this country.

You state that civil rights in this country have been destroyed.

You state that a huge increase in military spending has destroyed our economy.

You state that our military is broken.

You state that we are stuck in an endless quagmire.

The only thing you said that makes any sense of all is the threat of a future attack, possibly involving nuclear weapons and that we have 300 unguarded ports.

So tell me Claudia - how would you propose stopping these attacks? How would you propose developing intelligence? You are against wiretapping the communications of suspected terrorists. You are against detaining and interrogating suspected terrorists. You are obviously against any use of force against suspected terrorists. According to you, we can't take pre-empting, or preventative action. Besides - our military is hopeless broken according to you.

We could have a smoking gun, and you would be against taking action.

So tell me - Claudia -- in your infinite, liberalism infused intellect - what you would do to stop these future terrorist attacks.

I'm sure you are going to say that capturing Bin-Laden will automatically put an end to any and all terrorist attacks, and if that is what you intend to say - I suggest you think again.

'How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11? None. What is the reality of that? How many attacks are currently being planned? None of us know'

Um, that comment was made by Stephen Colbert, not me. It's what we call 'satire'. You may have heard of it. I have tried to make sense of your incoherent ramble, but your point eludes me, except that is an attack of some sort on me.

What is the reality of no attacks since 9/11? Umm, they achieved what they said they wanted to achieve, which was the destruction of civil rights in this country and a huge increase in military spending, which would eventually destroy our economy, like Russia did during the cold war? Did you ever listen to what bin Ladin actually said? He got what he wanted... our military is broken, we are embroiled in an endless quagmire, we are in debt for generations to come.

and how many attacks are being planned? who knows? but there is no doubt they will come from pakistan or afghanistan and will probably involve nuclear weapons. and we have 300 unguarded ports.

Claudia Long,
I thought that liberals didn't understand "satire", and typically show the rest of America how thin-skinned they are - especially when a demented crackpot like Anne Coulter goes off on one of her satiric riffs against liberalism.

Of course - liberals like you would stop at nothing to shut a loudmouth like Anne Coulter down, because quite frankly - its only acceptable when a liberal does it.

And since you are on the topic of civil rights - people like you believe in civil rights only for the type of people that you deem acceptable - mainly left-wing agitators.

People like you view the right as fascist, yet - people like you also advocate silencing any opinion, any voice that you disagree with.

People like you love to criminalize political disagreements.

Its as though only those on the left could possibly ever tell the rest of us the truth.

I'll take your spew on Bin Laden. Of course, being the left-wing ostrich that you are - you seek to legitimize the view points of Osama Bin Laden by alleging that he accomplished what he wanted to accomplish - with help from the "fascist right wingers" who control this country.

You state that civil rights in this country have been destroyed.

You state that a huge increase in military spending has destroyed our economy.

You state that our military is broken.

You state that we are stuck in an endless quagmire.

The only thing you said that makes any sense of all is the threat of a future attack, possibly involving nuclear weapons and that we have 300 unguarded ports.

So tell me Claudia - how would you propose stopping these attacks? How would you propose developing intelligence? You are against wiretapping the communications of suspected terrorists. You are against detaining and interrogating suspected terrorists. You are obviously against any use of force against suspected terrorists. According to you, we can't take pre-empting, or preventative action. Besides - our military is hopeless broken according to you.

We could have a smoking gun, and you would be against taking action.

So tell me - Claudia -- in your infinite, liberalism infused intellect - what you would do to stop these future terrorist attacks.

I'm sure you are going to say that capturing Bin-Laden will automatically put an end to any and all terrorist attacks, and if that is what you intend to say - I suggest you think again.

'How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11? None. What is the reality of that? How many attacks are currently being planned? None of us know'

Um, that comment was made by Stephen Colbert, not me. It's what we call 'satire'. You may have heard of it. I have tried to make sense of your incoherent ramble, but your point eludes me, except that is an attack of some sort on me.

What is the reality of no attacks since 9/11? Umm, they achieved what they said they wanted to achieve, which was the destruction of civil rights in this country and a huge increase in military spending, which would eventually destroy our economy, like Russia did during the cold war? Did you ever listen to what bin Ladin actually said? He got what he wanted... our military is broken, we are embroiled in an endless quagmire, we are in debt for generations to come.

and how many attacks are being planned? who knows? but there is no doubt they will come from pakistan or afghanistan and will probably involve nuclear weapons. and we have 300 unguarded ports.

Yes, fortunately, Mitt has more mainstream supporters - like, you know, Larry Craig.

Pat Robertson just showed his colors as a through-and-through neo-con rather than an evangelical conservative. Social issues (like abortion) "pale in significance" to the fight on global terror and against radical Islam? For decades, the leading evangelical call is that the scourge of abortion has killed more than all of the wars in history combined. Robertson now jettisoning that belief for an emphasis on the war on terror alienates him from the roots of the movement and probably from a large number of evangelical Christians.

I hesitate to make the pronouncement early, but I suspect that evangelical conservatism has just died.

This will work in Romney's favor. Robertson has consistenly shown a mean-spirited unwillingness to tolerate those with values different from his own. He has also proven himself time and again to be among the worst critical thinkers of our time. Mitt's got to be glad he won't be associated with crazy-man Robertson. Phew!

Thank you for so vividly proving my point, dear mibroooks27, that "people of faith" are indeed people who hate. For evidence, I suggest you read your own posts.

John Kerry Ready To Take On Swift Boat Vets Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry claims he's now armed with materials that will make war record critics from his 2004 presidential campaign go running tail between legs.

In a related story - hillary proclaims she is now finally ready to defend us against any Arabs who want to fly into buildings.

kingofzouk has swiftly proven that he should not comment about local Virginia politics, about which he knows nothing.

For example, Cuccinelli's district is far more conservative than Devolites Davis's. Anyone around here knows that. Secondly, Cuccinelli's opponent was so lackluster that even the WaPo couldn't bring itself to endorse her. And even then he has to sit through a recount.

As for Devolites Davis, her constituents simply rejected her "transformation" into a liberal.

In short, apples and oranges.

For another example, the GOP lost a safe seat in Hampton Roads -- and thereby control of the Senate -- when it nominated a very conservative Club For Growth righty over a moderate incumbent Republican in a very GOP-leaning district. Clearly a major blunder.

In short, the VA Senate will not be more conservative than in years past. The VA GOP caucus will be more conservative, but it's now the minority party.

Should anybody be surprised by this? No, of course not: When it comes to these hypocrites (and Robertson is one of the biggest offenders), it's power or (Republican) Party over principle every single time. Forget about real Christian values.

claudialong - Guliani *has* publically stated he has reservaions about our free trade policy and about globalizaton. Hillary Clinton has never uttered one word of criticism of tis disaster.

Brittman1 - "people of faith = people who hate". How trite! And I've never heard you uter one word of criticism for your feminist fellows regular snide remarks about men. Male bashing is as loathsome as racism and the Clinton candidacy has brought it out from under it's rock. It's ain't pretty and it IS hate speech, even if it's uttered by a presidential candidate!

As for people of faith being filled wih hate, who do ou think funds most of this country's soup kitchens, homless shelters and the like. I'm a liberal, but I'm flat out ashamed of how shallow and insipid your remarks are. Go look up the stats on giving, even secular giving. Red states and those "people of faith" provide the vast majority of money for the poor and desparate. Liberals give to "the arts" and "NPR", and even then are stingy! Tose people of faith, by their actions, sow more concern for their fellow man than any collection of left wing twits I have ever encountered.

The Republican Party and/or some/many of it's members is in dire legal trouble if the Democrats take it all next November.

Sure, they're shredding and deleting and trying to find old tapes of emails to destroy and put judges in place that won't hold them to account, but if Democrats take the White House and the Justice Department back, there's a trail that will show who told who to do what and when.

Until then, the guilty parties remain silent, torture is OK'd, the leaders bluff their way through another day, the dollar goes down, oil goes up, the poor get poorer and sicker, while friends of the President and Vice President just keep getting richer and richer.

In light of this, it is in the best interest of the GOP to cheat it's way back... and they will. They've done it before and they have succeeded before so why stop now when it is the most vital?

This is what the Christians brought to the table; they enabled the stench of the GOP to grab onto America and make it choke. They are short-sighted and feeble-minded, and they were had.... and now they're quite OK with having everyone else pay for what they can't hide.

I will never listen to one again.

Well said bpai_99. By allowing itself to become a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican National Committee, Christian America has cheapened itself and Christianity.

The damage will be very long term.

While not every person belonging to a Christian demonination that I have met hates others who don't share all their beliefs, I have to admit that the overwhelming majority of them do.

It's always striking to me how the most unChristian behavior I have seen has been committed by people who wear their "devotion" to Christ on their sleeves.

I honestly can't understand why Robertson would endorse Rudy. Oh, right: Iran...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

"People of faith" = People who hate.

Wrapping your bigotry in the trappings of Christianity doesn't make you a Christian, Pat.

While the MSM is spinning the results as a rejection of Republicanism, it is important to note that this is not a rejection of conservatism. In fact, conservative Republicans like Ken Cuccinelli fared much better than liberal Republicans like Jeannemarie Devolites Davis. In the case of Cuccinelli, absentee ballot votes made him the winner by 72 votes (although his opponent is calling for a re-count). Conversely, Devolites Davis, a self-proclaimed "RINO" garnered only about 45 percent of the vote. Other conservatives who lost still fared better than their more moderate counterparts who also lost ...

It could be argued that the VA State Senate will actually be more conservative next year than it has been in the past. Of course, the problem is that the Democrats now have a lot more say in redistricting (Republicans still control the House).

Either way, it would be wrong to conclude that conservatives are dragging the GOP down. In fact, the results demonstrate quite the opposite is true.

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/bb1320d8-ba2d-4a10-ab77-6ae022b0fe0e

'Even Rudy Guliani has expressed concern and a willingness to make changes'

Not on your life, Mike. Don't be naive. Rudy has no concern for anyone but Rudy, and he is making a ton of money from globalization, outsourcing, governmlent contracts, etc. He will be gwb2 - he will do absolutely nothing different.

Kudos to Pat Robertson! Why is it that so-called liberals don't give the Reverend credit for such things as endorsing a pro-choice Guiliani or saying the US should whack Hugo Chavez? He's only admitting what is obvious to all but the most naive social conservatives - the overriding goal of the conversative coalition in America is to secure and exercise power in the pursuit of self-interest.

Principles can and will be cast aside when they become detrimental to that objective. It's all about power, and Pat Robertson knows that as well as any politician, only he is more skillful in harnessing the support of the gullible by cloaking his ends in religious terms.

Instead of applauding Robertson for his realpolitik, liberals castigate Robertson for being a hypocrite, which is merely the outstanding trait of a true politician. He can't win.

I see the moonbats are out in force today. all because a religious leader endorses a candidate. I think your level of outrage is becoming laughable. Is there anything that happens on a daily basis which doesn't outrage you? Maybe some anger management. I think it stems from your total loss of power which stems from your total lack of any sense of proportion.

you keep losing major elections because of your policies. your books don't sell, your TV shows go unwatched, your radio staions go broke, your legislation goes no where. there is a message here if anyone would settle down long enough to listen to it. Most normal people think you are kooks, and that goes for you Paul supporters too (aka Ex Nader supporters). But soon you will have your Rosie back on MSNBC and all 200 of you can watch her every night right before Krazy Keith, from whom you obtain your "news". Meanwhile O'Reilly will have viewers in the millions and book sales on the NYT best seller list - even if they won't review it.

I am more appalled than usual at Rudy. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell said that 9/11 was justified and Rudy is basing his entire campaign on it

JasonL_in_MD - Me 1, you "loopy". The economy, and in particular opposion to free trade, has been rising in voter concerns and is now the number #1 issue. What you fail to acknowledge is that the current crop of polls show voters as perceiving Clinton as wedded to globalization and free trade at precisely the time when voters, in increasing numbers, are opposing it! If you think Bill and Hillary's *ownership* of a firm that provides outsourcing services and H1-B and L-1 guest workers for Amercian companies, her trips to India, her heading the Senate Indian-American business group, and her being called "the Senator From India", aren't going to be *major* issues, you are simply being delussional.

Now, Mr. Huckabee is on record as oppossing outsourcing and free rade as it has been practiced under the Bush-Clinton presidencies. So is Fred Thompson. Even Rudy Guliani has expressed concern and a willingness to make changes. Not your corrupt Ms. Clinton! She makes too much money, well over half of her campaign contributions, and most of here p[ersonal fortune, come from the globalization crowd (some analysts think it is more than 2/3...a lot of it foreign money being laundered through SF and NY dish washers and Indian immigrants).

Now, voters can be fooled for a while, but they are waking up and I fully expect Clinton's poll numbers to drop like a rock. If her campaign machinations to move the primaries to an earlier date succeed in fooling enough voters to win her the nomination, by the time the general election rolls around, the economy is going to be such a mess that even a lot of current CLinton cheerleaders wont vote for her.

Thank you Pat Robert$on!!! You have no idea how you have helped narrow down the choices of who NOT to vote for. Any friend of yours has sold out the rest of us.

Praise the lord!

It looks like Pat Robertson has decided to jump on Rudy's bandwagon out of political expediency. Sensing that true Christian candidates like Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee were dead ducks (Brownback has already withdrawn from the race), Rev. Pat decided to back what appears to be the sure winner despite his extensive moral shortcomings. I guess traditional family values have been scrapped or will be redefined to make two divorces and adultery morally acceptable. The Republicans will be unable to make any political capital out of Bill Clinton's moral shortcomings in 2008.

Politics sure makes for some strange bedfellows.

The "Reverend" Jerry Falwell must be looking up at this in horror.

Why does everyone who quotes poll numbers always quote those from the Liberal-based media? There are plenty of pollsters out there that are not tied to a party but clearly CNN and Newsweek are tied to the left.

woooow!!! what's either one gonna do with that? Guiliani "see america...i'm god's man"

Robertson "he sounds tough to me"

hahahahahahaha.

now all Guiliani needs is an endorsement from Clarence Thomas, Alberto Gonzales and Ann Coulter...

This confirms my faith in Christianity and Pat Robertson. Support the Presidential candidate who will carry on the Bush policy that war and more killings is the way to deal with terrorists and radicals
of another religion. If you asked Pat, I am sure he would support bombing Iran tomorrow. Onward Christian soldiers marching into war.

'We get just as much crazy as we used to.'

prolly a link to drudge or something.. this topic certainly brought them out.

As one who knows the conservative church intimately, it is my conclusion that history will judge most harshly the leaders who turned the religion of love over to an alien hate philosophy of a tribal, racist religion. Billionaire Robertson better enjoy his treasure and ego on what little they've left of the earth. This cult makes Joseph Smith look like the height of scriptural coherence.

Y'all knw why Pat wanted to kill Chavez, right? He's in the oil business, you see. He wants Citgo.

This kiss of death for Rudy!

Thank you Pat!

How two faced can you be Pat?

This man surely doesn't represent family values.

Well it looks like the new sign in procedures have stopped working. We get just as much crazy as we used to.
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"As i you didn't need another reason to vote for Clinton, the Senator from India, a new poll from CNN has the overwhelming majority of voters (80%) more concerned about the economy than any other issue, including Iraq, "choice", terrorism, health care, Iran, taxes and illegal immigration." -MikeB

I know I shouldn't bother debating this with you but I'm going to anyway.

What the poll says was that the economy is extremely or very important to 80% of voters. It beat Iraq by only 2 points.

What you really should be looking at is a recent Newsweek poll. That also showed the Economy being the number one issue, but only for 22% of voters. Iraq and health care weren't far behind and people concerned with both of those issues lean towards Dems.

It's also important to note that when asked what they'd like to hear candidates talk about Iraq came in with 26%, health care with 25%, and the economy with only 11%. That means that the issues that are strongest for Dems are the ones that Americans want to hear about the most.

Me: 1 You: 0