Should Clinton drop out of the race? No need to. should she start campaigning like a democrat? Yeah. This is a primary between two democrats during an election year where winning the white house back for the dems is more important than it's been in decades. And she is campaigning like she is in a general election. She needs to stop using the Tonya Harding approach if she is going to stay in. No one would be calling for her to drop out if she was campaigning like Huckabee did after it was mathematically impossible for him to win. He campaigned with honor and integrity and didn't try to ruin McCain for the general election. Let her stay in forever, for all I care. But someone needs to remind her that she is a democrat.

Should Clinton drop out of the race? No need to. should she start campaigning like a democrat? Yeah. This is a primary between two democrats during an election year where winning the white house back for the dems is more important than it's been in decades. And she is campaigning like she is in a general election. She needs to stop using the Tonya Harding approach if she is going to stay in. No one would be calling for her to drop out if she was campaigning like Huckabee did after it was mathematically impossible for him to win. He campaigned with honor and integrity and didn't try to ruin McCain for the general election. Let her stay in forever, for all I care. But someone needs to remind her that she is a democrat.

Hillary is not going to drop out until she raises enough money to pay herself back the FIVE million dollars she loaned to her campaign. In trying to buy the office of the President, she called the five million dollar loan a "good investment." She now finds it may not be such a good investment after all. But she will hoodwink the working class women that her husband Bill is seducing to send to Hillary their hard-earned dollars, so the Clintons had get back their millions invested in her campaign. They still have multi-millions, but, hey, the hedgefund company Chelsea works for on Wall Street may not be making that much money of late. Just like the sub-prime loan company that Hillary's campaign manager, Williams, was on the board for is now in trouble for its dealing with minority house owners in the sub-prime meltdown. The Clintons's corrupt fingerprints are everywhere. And they still want more from our posckets.

> "less than one percent of the popular vote
> are all that separate Clinton from Obama"

Is it too much to ask that those in the news media (i.e. Cillizza) point out that such statements regarding the "popular vote" effectively ignore the voters in the 15 Democratic caucuses -- regardless of which candidate makes such claims.

This is indeed another Clinton strategy. Senator Leahy made the comment and they are now running with the line and the lie that everybody wants her to quit who's not a supporter.

It's amazing that the American voters, especially after the Bosnia lie, cannot see through this. Pay attention people! Ask Hillary to list the names of the people calling for her to quit. I'm so sick and disgusting with Hillary's negative, divisive and dishonest campaign tactics. This is merely a trick to get sympathy. Ask to see a list of those who are calling for her to drop out.

Posted by: Debmood | March 30, 2008 11:24 AM
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You've GOT to be kidding me!

This is indeed another Clinton strategy. Senator Leahy made the comment and they are now running with the line and the lie that everybody wants her to quit who's not a supporter.

It's amazing that the American voters, especially after the Bosnia lie, cannot see through this. Pay attention people! Ask Hillary to list the names of the people calling for her to quit. I'm so sick and disgusting with Hillary's negative, divisive and dishonest campaign tactics. This is merely a trick to get sympathy. Ask to see a list of those who are calling for her to drop out.

mark_in_austin:

Thanks for the information. I was looking at the txdemocrats.org website last night, but they didn't seem to be updating.

I wonder if WaPo is blocking all hyperlinks or just outside URLs.

Hi mteng -

The WaPo would not let me post a website, so I have extracted this from the Austin American-Statesman article.
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Barack Obama's campaign proclaimed the senator from Illinois the winner Saturday night of the most delegates from Texas to the Democratic Party's national convention after an estimated 100,000 high-spirited Democrats gathered at regional conventions to choose nearly 7,300 delegates to the state party's June convention in Austin. Obama claimed a 38-29 lead in pledged delegates, meaning he would overtake Clinton with a projected cushion of five pledged delegates from Texas.

Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's national campaign chairman, stopped by Saturday's conventions in McLennan, Williamson and Travis counties.

Even if Obama ends up with more Texas delegates, "we have millions of people yet to vote," McAuliffe said Saturday afternoon. "Hillary will be in until the end of the process," through the last primaries June 3 in Montana and South Dakota, he said.

Obama, who won the primaries in Travis, Hays and Williamson counties, took 501 of 750 delegates to the state convention awarded at the counties' conventions Saturday.

The final sorting of Texas delegates to the party's national convention in August will depend on outcomes of the state convention June 5-7.

I've been dedicating a couple of dollars to Hillary's campaign for every offensive, arrogant, patronizing slur from Obama, his surrogates, or his media groupies in the MSM and Blogosphere. My donations are adding up fast, and I appreciate how Obamaphiles are effectively motivating Hillary's fundraising effort. Our goal is to teach the would-be messiah and his crew a lesson in humility, a virture they've evidently missed out on.

I've been dedicating a couple of dollars to Hillary's campaign for every offensive, arrogant, patronizing slur from Obama, his surrogates, or his media groupies in the MSM and Blogosphere. My donations are adding up fast, and I appreciate how Obamaphiles are effectively motivating Hillary's fundraising effort. Our goal is to teach the would-be messiah and his crew a lesson in humility, a virture they've evidently missed out on.

THE CLINTON INSURGENCY IS IN FULL SWING

WHAT ARE WE LOYAL DEMS PREPARED TO DO?

Fueling the current Clinton Insurgency against Obama AND the entire DEM party is the Clintons' belief THEY were robbed of this nomination.

This belief provides them internal psychic comfort and external rationalization for ANY and EVERY behavior we have seen and will continue to see RIGHT THROUGH 2012.

Only the naive think this ends at the Convention. After losing there, the Clinton Insurgency goes underground to further expand their support of McCain's candidacy. If unsuccessful, it moves to the Senate where Hillary as Lieberman REDUX, will practically caucus with McCain to deny President Obama any success.

Between Super Tuesdays Obama won 11 straight states; and the Campaign to Elect Hillary morphed into the Campaign to Defeat Obama via this new political Insurgency we are witnessing daily.
Indeed, Hillary's campaign is an undeclared death-struggle to deny Obama not the nomination (she knows that's already lost), but the Presidency and any media coverage that would aid him.

The goal is no longer winning. Victory is in prolonging the battle and denying the favorite his expected result, while spoiling it so that ultimate victory is worth less each day the Insurgency continues. This new Clinton campaign can only be by design of our Chief Democratic Architect, former President Bill Clinton, himself.

We all know this in our hearts. The only question facing loyal DEMS, to paraphrase Sean Connery from "The Untouchables": What are WE prepared to do?

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race... Several sources in her own camp admit that she has virtually no chance of winning the nomination except if she succeeds in finding James Hoffa's body and moving it in Obama's flower garden to put the blame on him.

Since there is little chance for the body to be found, she makes all these negative assertions. The goal seems to be the 2012 election. By putting enough doubts on Obama, Hillary is hoping that he will lose to McCain and that she or Chelsea (who is also an experienced leader after her journey at the White House mansion) will be able to run in 2012. The Clintons might then be able to capitalize again with the rental of the Lincoln Bedroom to big lobbyists.

Whatever happens, since the Judas story with Richardson, we know that Hillary believes in ressurection; she or her husband Bill would be Jesus if I understood correctly the story. So, we can assume that Hillary will not hesitate to play the kamikaze with this election or the next one since she will probably reborn again, as the savior.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race before she hurts herself or others.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race... Several sources in her own camp admit that she has virtually no chance of winning the nomination except if she succeeds in finding James Hoffa's body and moving it in Obama's flower garden to put the blame on him.

Since there is little chance for the body to be found, she makes all these negative assertions. The goal seems to be the 2012 election. By putting enough doubts on Obama, Hillary is hoping that he will lose to McCain and that she or Chelsea (who is also an experienced leader after her journey at the White House mansion) will be able to run in 2012. The Clintons might then be able to capitalize again with the rental of the Lincoln Bedroom to big lobbyists.

Whatever happens, since the Judas story with Richardson, we know that Hillary believes in ressurection; she or her husband Bill would be Jesus if I understood correctly the story. So, we can assume that Hillary will not hesitate to play the kamikaze with this election or the next one since she will probably reborn again, as the savior.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race before she hurts herself or others.

svreader, vammap, leichtman, and the rest of you dirty lying swine - we want your take on Texas, ANOTHER OBAMA VICTORY!

OBAMA '08! OBAMA '08! the dirty pigs are filled with hate! OBAMA '08!

-- There's a silver lining in every dark cloud, or at least that's the approach Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign is taking when it comes to recent comments made by surrogates for Barack Obama that Clinton should drop from the Democratic presidential race. --

I am NOT a surrogate, and I think she should face reality and graceful bow out of the race for the sake of the party.

-- "Have you noticed the pattern?" Clinton asks in the message, adding: "Every time our campaign demonstrates its strength and resilience, people start to suggest we should end our pursuit of the Democratic nomination. --

What fantasyland does Clinton live in? How has her campaign been demonstrating strength? The whipping she was supposed to give Obama on March 4th end up being a "Big Whoop" as she gain practically no delegates on Obama, and then he trounced her in the next two contests. In fact Obama is the one with the momentum and the most recent wins. Clinton hasn't got a chance to win the nomination without essentially tearing down the party in the process. Any "victory" will only be a Pyrrhic one.

-- "Those anxious to force us to the sidelines aren't doing it because they think we're going to lose the upcoming primaries. The fact is, they're reading the same polls we are, and they know we are in a position to win." --

There are 10 upcoming primaries, are they saying they're going to win them all, and by the necessary 60+% in them all needed to catch Obama? Nope. They're just looking at a few states and coming up with more "new math" as to how we should measure the contest, disregarding all that matters are the delegate counts and Obama leads by an insurmountable margin in a proportional system as the Democratic race uses.

Clinton is practicing her own version of March Madness. She's down by too many points with too little time left on the clock. It is time she stopped committing fouls and hoping for a miracle, and conceded.

wpost; for 3 weeks Obama supporters(not you) have told me that if I am not supporting him I am a Bush Republican. After 35 years of working my heart out to elect Dems, can you kind of understand my being just a little p.o. with these Obama purist. Receiced that exact same message from moveon and DFA members via emailsvand calls.

and mark this kinf of slanderous GOSSIP is beneath you;

' We have heard reports that misinformation is being spread about tomorrow's County and Senate District Conventions, perhaps using the name of the Texas Democratic Party. Some delegates have reported receiving emails saying that conventions have been cancelled. We have also heard unconfirmed reports that someone is placing robo-calls, claiming to be from the Texas Democratic Party, suggesting that county or district conventions have been cancelled.'

lightbearer wrote: "But her contributions to her own campaign are "loans," while the working class, uneducated, blue collar people she's appealing to are making genuine gifts. She'll pay herself back with the money poor people think is going to help a viable, serious campaign to win."

If after the general election and Hillary wins the Presidency, she'll raise more campaign donations and probably pay herself back, but they won't be from the poor people like me who donated to her campaign.

Despite your thinking, it was after Hillary loaned her campaign 5 million dollars to be competitive for Super Tuesday that the donations from us poor people started pouring in in greater amoounts to support her, so your implication that we poor people are being taken is wrong.

We're supporting her, and we know what we're doing.

Hillary '08

It would seem to me she has two very ligit foes right now: Liberal Democrats first .....
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ROTFLMAO
Posted by: wpost4112 | March 29, 2008 09:45 PM

Who knew the day would come when I'd be included in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?

The Clintons have been playing their donors for suckers anyway, so this is no surprise. They're multimillionaires, though they won't release their tax returns to show how that happened. But her contributions to her own campaign are "loans," while the working class, uneducated, blue collar people she's appealing to are making genuine gifts. She'll pay herself back with the money poor people think is going to help a viable, serious campaign to win.

It would seem to me she has two very ligit foes right now: Liberal Democrats first .....

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ROTFLMAO

The problem for Obama is that he has done the ONE thing he said he wouldn't do and that's practice the old divisive politics of Washington.

One shammer is just like any other shammer regardless of party affiliation.

That puts him right back where he started in the eyes of many Democrats. He's an unknown quantity with a zillion endorsements propping up his candidacy.

No one really knows what he stands for: his policy positions have changed; his allegiances are untrustworthy; he's shown that his principles are overshadowed by his White House quest; he's disenfranchised his brothers and he's been dishonest about his feelings about race.

Instead of indicting Clinton for wanting the votes to count, for remaining in the race, we should be talking about why her adversaries in the Democratic party are DEEPLY afraid she could pull out a win.

It would seem to me she has two very ligit foes right now: Liberal Democrats first and then Republicans, next.

Hi mteng - The County Conventions do Party business. In my Precinct Convention, 57 Resolutions were proposed. However, they were wisely tabled. Enough of the 350 Precincts in Travis County actually passed Resolutions that I will bet more than 100 were debated at County. When the County Convention resolutions hit the floor at the State Convention, those that pass get into the State Dem Platform and get proposed by the TX delegation to the National Convention.

The resolutions can be ridiculous or sublime. They give the delegates a sense of ownership of the Party.

The Rs do this in TX, as well.

In addition, "seeks to cash in on Dropout talk" is hardly fawning. Just good hard reporting.

rd

trmasonic wrote: "when is the last time you parroted an Obama e-mail as the substance of your post?"

He wasn't parroting Clinton emails, he was reporting the nature of what the Clintons are doing internally with their support base in reaction to these calls for Hillary to withdraw.

I'm a Hillary supporter and get the emails, but I found Chris' take, and the opportunity of others here in the thread, to be of intersst.

I'm not on Obama's email list (or any other politician, I dropped off Kerry's when he endorsed Obama instead of Hillary), and I would find a similar report of Obama campaign communications to their base to also be of interest. For example Obama has a phenomenal small donor base (like me, I'm not wealthy) and the communications his campaign has with them to maintain that base would also be interesting.

I get my news from the Washington Post, ABC News.com, and now Fox News cable believe it or not after finding these few media sources to have info versus Obama brainwashing sessions in this primary season. For example I voted in Florida and only Fox gave the results. They've earned my respect fior their coverage during this primary season.

In contrast, I will never turn on MSNBC again, for example.

So thanks for the many interesting political coverage posts here on the Washington Post in the Fix, Trail, and feature articles, Chris.

rd

Please join me in approving that post.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 29, 2008 04:50 PM
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Agreed! I also get pretty annoyed with some of these idiots as well...

There is very little policy differences between those of Hillary and Obama so long as there is a democrat in the White House come January, I will rest assured that the future of our country is in good hands...

Posted by: wpost4112 | March 29, 2008 07:28 PM

Why the hostility? And, again, why does the "abuse" from anonymous bloggers, who could be Republicans making trouble, figure into any serious political decision?
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Just to provide you an assist on this! I also get pretty annoyed as well with some of these idiots posting stuff that's not even remotely connected to the topic being discussed.

We democrats can agree to disagree and even fight among ourselves but I certainly do not appreciate these other idiots trying to yank our chain.

Sure she can stay in the race but there will be a cost to her. Her prestige is diminishing; if and when she finally does end her campaign, she will be a diminished figure. She is a very junior senator so she will not be going back to the Senate as a big shot.

"What ye sow is what ye shall reap.

Too many of us see through Obama's duplicity. Here's a snipet of goings on at Buzzflash....

According to politicos in the act of party abeyance, "Senator Hillary Clinton has violated that cardinal rule again and again as she personally vouched for the readiness of John McCain to assume the presidency, while belittling Barack Obama as nothing more than a speech. [writer]

Buzzflash has Hillary and John running together on the same ticket;(not so far-fetched) the general tone of the site is anti-Clinton, anti McCain, pro Obama.

I'm not sure what they mean by Cardinal rules, but it would seem that for Barack Obama to recruit Republicans to beat Republicans was probably the first Cardinal rule broken.

Nobody seemed to mind that, now Buzzflash says Bill Clinton is campaigning for McCain, which of course breaks the rules, because it's Obama's rules.

I'm not sure why they have rules at all, because most of them are broken anyway.

McCain didn't stick to campaign finance rules; Obama wants to pick which rules he wants to uphold, like not counting votes and which ones he doesn't, like superdelegates voting as delegates and Hillary just wants the votes counted.

On BuzzFlash's Lighter Side, it's all Hillary and McCain jokes; but it might not be a joke if in fact Clinton and McCain became a team. It would turn the first women, first black man contender race on its head, with instead, the first Democrat and Republican ticket, in history?

Barack keeps on talking about changing the old politics, well that implies breaking some of the old rules...

If Barack can break the rules so can Hillary, Bill and everyone else...

test

1.
There you and your side go calling Clinton supporters Bush Republicans.
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huh? It's curious watching you twist my words. I haven't called Clinton supporters Bush Republicans. My question is how can anyone committed to Democratic Party policies switch to the Republican party? I don't understand all the Democrats supporting Clinton or Obama saying they will switch if their candidate of choice doesn't get the nomination. Seems like political hari-kari.

2.
I am working with the Noreiga and Lampson campaigns how does that make me a Bush Republican.

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Well, since I never called you a Bush Republican, it doesn't apply.

3.
I will wait for your answer which I am sure will be that is not pure enough.
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Assume what you will. I don't know where this notion of purity entered the picture, but I still don't find the link between a Edwards/Clinton supporter and a McCain supporter.

4.
One more time Obama supporters; Keep abusing Clinton supporters and IF you are the nominee you will have ZERO CHANCE IN Nov, Zero.

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Why the hostility? And, again, why does the "abuse" from anonymous bloggers, who could be Republicans making trouble, figure into any serious political decision? And why associate that same anonymous behavior with Obama?

Why not just decide on the issues/policies?

mark_in_austin:

Wow. Do all the delegate conventions last 8 hours? Hats off to the people who are excited enough about their political party to select county delegates for that long.

Is there confirmation that HRC's supporters were behind the e-mails? Sounds kind of like payback for the tricks BHO's supporters supposedly did during the caucuses.

'If you have substantive reasons, based on policy issues etc, I can understand.'

I have posted my policy differences at least 10 times and as usual you close your ears and scream no you can t believe that.

I contributed $500 to the Edwards campaign so yes I was a supporter of JE.'

' I just don't see how a fervent supporter of Edwards, as I believe you once described yourself, can embrace the McCain/Bush viewpoint.'

There you and your side go calling Clinton supporters Bush Republicans. Its old, its stale and insulting from someone claiming to be a reasonable Obama supporter. I am working with the Noreiga and Lampson campaigns how does that make me a Bush Republican. I will wait for your answer which I am sure will be that is not pure enough.

One more time Obama supporters; Keep abusing Clinton supporters and IF you are the nominee you will have ZERO CHANCE IN Nov, Zero

And jack keeps saying the dnc rules prohibit a revote in Fla and Mich which is utter nonsense. If that is true then why has Howard Dean said he will go along with whatever the 2 cndidates agree to. Why is it so hard for the Obama supporters to just admit That Sen Obama just doesn t want it and will find any excuse to avoid it now matter how run even the firehouse primary he originally supported. MSNBC ran a story interviewing an Afican Amer state rep who claimed he waa on Obama s steering committee and that it was not in Sen Obama s political interest to have a revote. He was smug about it but honest.

And why was Sen Obama claiming to be like Kennedy,Reagan an George H. George H is a nice enough gut but his admin and more importantly his economic policies were a disaster especially in comparison to Clinton"s.

I think Hillary should stay in the race. There are only 10 more states/territories to go, and June is right around the corner. We can hang on that long.

Besides, the longer Hillary runs, the higher her negatives rise. Therefore, Hillary staying in the race until June helps Obama by making his case that she is less electable and more divisive.

Works for me.

all of the

"vileness," here today, is repulsive scammer based....

it's what they do. People that don't lie for a living, think it has something to do with being a bad person...it's their lifestyle...

crab grass doen't have morals or scruples, termites and roaches are just insects that are in the wrong place...

republicans are a diseased tribe, cut them out of the herd...

banish them for a generation or two, take their money and influence away, give them resumes with the words TRAITOR marked on them, and let them hunt for work...

Jail the KAGANS, RICHARD PERLE, PAUL WOLFOWITZ, NEGROPONTE, PORTER GOSS, Douglas Feith, Dich Cheenie, Donald Dumbsfeld, James Baker III...and others...

keep AMERICAN free from DISINFORMATION...it's fraud in the real world.

during the 1972 McGovern Nixon challenge, McGovern was considered the stronger challenger

and so the repulisive scammers used character assassination to defeat McGovern, much as you see Hillary being attacked now...

Hubert Humphrey was put forward as "the more reasonable," what they really meant was Hubert was the "more defeatable,"

Obama is the weaker candidate.

SEARCH on 1972 KARL ROVE, McGovern.

Plus for every degree of anger between people voting for either Hillary or Obama the repulsive scammers can count on a swing vote or a non vote if their candidate doesn't get nominated.

I would say that about 40 PERCENT of the VILENESS and INNUENDO from posters here is repulsive scammer based.

I recognize a lot of the posters as being repulsive scammers, you can tell from their mode of attack....

it's usually spin and "appeal to emotion," very little logic

just name calling and playground tactics...slime, innuendo, impugning character,

EXAMPLES: purple lips, ankleless Annie

that kind of thing.

it's what they do. They have been doing it here for the last 4 years.

as bushCO and CRONY _supporters_

just because george w. is gone doesn't mean bushCO and CRONYs disappears.

the BUSH FAMILIES AND SAUDIS

Carlyle Group is going to buy part of Booze-Allen-Hamilton and Sprint

Rumsfelds' Bechtel is still a heavy player in the world of Consulting/Contracting

Cheneys Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater is going gangbuster and just got two new congressional lobbyists

"the past" ????

if that's "the past," O baaa baaaaa man is talking aobut....why are they still here to day,

and why will they be there when the new president is inaugurated ???

DA,

meester o BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAA man....

.

Chris, I think we need a list of fundraising email categories, just as we do for endorsements. I can think of 4 off the top of my head:

* The "something great has just happened for us" fundraising email. (These come out after a primary win, or a big speech, or a big endorsement)

* The "everyone is trying to screw us so help us stick it to em" fundraising email. (This one from Hillary is a great example. They come out after the other side does something nasty or things turn against them. Obama has had a few of these too.)

* The "time is running out! Quick, donate!" fundraising email. This one usually comes before a deadline or a primary.

* The "help us reach a big freaking goal" fundraising email. This one usually coincides with the previous category.

All of them are effective on different levels. I guess only the campaigns know which ones work best...

Posted by: citystreet | March 29, 2008 05:48 PM

Obama should have been seriously wounded with the Pastor Wright's fiasco. However, after looking like he was going into a free fall in the polls, his numbers quickly recovered and he surged ahead of Hillary.

Citystreet brings up an intriguing point. The questionable poll that's being referred to from one media outlet to the next, receives mention with no name, or affiliation now, its become just, THE POLL.

And it miraculously, counterintuitively suggests that instead of people being offended, they are now changing candidate allegiances and leaving Hillary in droves for Obama while at the same time Reverend Wright is receiving standing ovations at his home Church, he's had to cancel sermons at other churches around the country.

Does this jive?

This weekly turn around in his favor doesn't add up. It reminds me of GWB debates with Kerry. He was an utter disaster, but his numbers kept rising anyway, as if they were being artificially inflated..through something akin to multilpier effects...

The CLINTONs SAY:

---People forecasted our demise 3 times, and we came back (at least they think so)

--- Now again people say the same, but we will come back again!!!

BUT, DEAR CLINTONS: Now it is not "people"
saying that, but COLD MATHEMATICS within any plausible scenario TELL THAT NOT YOU "WILL", BUT YOU "ARE ALREADY" DEAD !!!

The fable of "come back kid" is only good for your irrational fanatics, enhanced by
the interested MEDIA, which EARN A LOT OF MONEY with any hour this bickeing goes on.

I keep thinking that a Hillary/Obama Obama/Hillary ticket is the answer. Not absolutely clear what the question is, but pretty sure it's the answer. Still think they should flip a coin.

Am 95% certain I won't vote for McCain now.

Gorgeous Spring day here in Richmond VA. Yard work, yard work, yard work.

rahaha, I see that the Clintonites have found a way to continue to insinuate that Obama is a Muslim while also saying he's a crazy Christian. Good work.

Clinton said it would be nice to have two people who loved America in the race.

Here's BHO's resume:
1) stopped wearing american flag lapel pin as US Senator, stating it was 'false patriotism'
2) chooses to leave islam to worship with Rev Wright for 18 yrs, who encourages congregation to sing "g-d d-amn america'
3) Ivy league wife of ivy league senator BHO gets a $200000 raise the day he is elected to the senate as a 'community outreach' officer for a Chicago Hospital. When her hubby wins the Iowa primary, she states she is proud of America for the first time in her life.

So it appears BC was right this time. BHO is professional chip on shoulder type.

svreader writes: "The issue here is rights and priorities.

The most important rights are rights of the voters and the most important priority is that they be given a chance to have their votes count."

Party primaries are NOT the constitutionally protected voting rights you are failing in your attempt to identify. Our founding fathers did not contemplate our modern party structures nor provide for them in our Constitution. When we succeed in surmounting the roadblocks the Bush Justice Department has used to suppress general election turnout, it is then that we exercise our sacred right to vote. It is a pity you didn't take tutelage from any of the Harvard Law grads laboring under your great shadow before dismissing them, no doubt for being incomprehensible to you.

Hey Chris,

I think Hillary has every right to stay in the race until it sinks in that she is 100% defeated and absolutely cannot win it. However, when is the last time you parroted an Obama e-mail as the substance of your post?

I'm sure it helps Hillary's fund raising when she has members of the media doing the hard ground work for her. Equal time and exposure for all please.

Nice to see most are in a good mood today. I don't have a clue about how these Endorsements will play, but I think they should not have been done. So much more information is surely going to come out in the next few weeks, and this is where the undecided, at this time, will be so important.

The phenomenon worth noting is voter's refusal to let any of the two candidates fall out of the race. Obama should have been seriously wounded with the Pastor Wright's fiasco. However, after looking like he was going into a free fall in the polls, his numbers quickly recovered and he surged ahead of Hillary.

As a strong Obama supporter, I am slowly starting to believe that the contest should play out to the end as well.

The final solution may be for both of them to be on the same ticket. In order to win the general election, who's on the top or bottom of the ticket may be a mute question at this time.

thank you chris cillizza for prominently publishing the clinton talking points line for line.

i've been paying close attention to you and howard kurtz' columns and am thrilled that you both continue to give the benefit of the doubt to backwards logic.

Me thinks they do protest too much. Leahy and Dodd must be hearing things inside the party that the infatuation with Obama is subsiding and the future contests might not go well for him. Every time Hillary gets some positive poll numbers the calls for her to quit become louder and more frequent. The party elites must be afraid some more dirt is getting ready to become public about Obama. Anyone else hearing rumors of risque behavior about Obama during his Chicago senate days? The longer this race goes on the more worried the Obama campaign becomes.

Dear WaPo - Tesla AKA "a_bigone" is gay bashing again; see its post at 5P.

Hi mteng -

The County Conventions are today. Travis should run for about 8 hours from 10A to 6P.
If the State D Party or the bigger counties post their results, I will post the websites; but I suspect the AP will have it by 10P EDT.

I turned down the "opportunity" to attend.

You might be interested in the tricks some HRC supporters may have instigated. The TX D PArty sent out this email Friday:
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Unfortunately, that enthusiasm may sometimes lead people to act irresponsibly. We have heard reports that misinformation is being spread about tomorrow's County and Senate District Conventions, perhaps using the name of the Texas Democratic Party. Some delegates have reported receiving emails saying that conventions have been cancelled. We have also heard unconfirmed reports that someone is placing robo-calls, claiming to be from the Texas Democratic Party, suggesting that county or district conventions have been cancelled.

mark_in_austin:

Wish I were pool cleaning -- bright, sunny day outside and I'm in here at work on the computer.

Isn't there a Texas delegate convention going on today? Any idea how to access the results?

I agree that it is nice to see svreader being positive again.

"a line featured prominently in the e-mail"

When you've fed the line to the reporter in the first place, it's no problem to have it ready to go out in your fundraising emails.

let's get real here.

the only one who wants Hillary to drop out are the REPULSIVE SCAMMERS...

like allenridge .....

Why, they don't want to lose their place at the feeding trough.

If Al Gore had taken his rightful place in history, IRAQ would have never happened...

The OIL WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE.

We would have been steered towards conservation and renewable energy sources.

BUSHes family and friends, including the SAND BROTHERS UAE / KUWIAT / SAUDI ARABIA

had plans for IRAQ, and the ZIONISTS in Israel provided them with a reason to take IRAQ...

the nebulous terrorist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

threat, aka the B.S. ploy.

AL GORE DIDN"T GO THROUGH WITH THE VOTE COUNT BECAUSE THERE WAS PRESSURE FOR HIM NOT TO...

HILLARY IS BEING PRESSURED THE SAME WAY NOW, in the same manner...

The reality is, more people are registering to vote, and Mc Cain is getting

no coverage, no one will know who he is by November, anyone saying other wise is selling a slice of B.S. Pie

don't buy it, it won't taste as good as it looks.

Hillary needs to finish. O mama, will be gone in 5 weeks.

Count on it....

Revelations will shake his camp regarding some of his private parties.

.eat that.

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who wants Hillary to drop out ???

bush CO AND CRONYs...

why? they don't want to lose their key to the pork room.

VOTER REGISTRATION IS UP.

McCain isa "who cares," the complexity of the drama is requiring people to pay attention.

THE ROVE based propagandists told Al Gore to

"not be a spoiler,"

they too, accused him of saying something he didn't he didn't say:

"I invented the internet."

spin is on the move and taking your choices away.

the F ups say: "play fair," as they molest children in the whitehouse...

SEARCH on CALL BOYS SCANDAL, Washington Times, Regan Bush

SEARCH on GEORGE W. BUSH, Jeff Gannon, Guckert, Victor Ashe, Lips, Karl Rove, Ken Mehlman, ALL GAY

these people are poisonous, and deserve to be removed from any social interactions ever again.

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Oh, and as a South Dakota resident, I am one of those MILLIONS of people who have yet to vote... I feel no need to "weigh in" on a contest that is already popularly decided with 95% certainty. With Hillary's reasoning, why didn't the other 7 candidates stay in until June 3rd?

The issue here is rights and priorities.

The most important rights are rights of the voters and the most important priority is that they be given a chance to have their votes count.

If the state party leaders screwed up, keel-haul them, but don't punish the voters.

Its not their fault.

Presidential elections only come by every four years.

It would go against what our founding fathers risked their lives for to deprive Americans of ther right to vote.

Let the chips fall where they may.

I sent Clinton's campaign $25 on receiving the above-mentioned email yesterday, and will send her another $25 today after reading this article. Clinton supporters are not intimidated by the media.

Elephants caucused in Washington D.C. for their favorite presidential candidates this week, no dragged out ordeal.

Although there was a surprise ending, it was inconsequential because, of course, elephants don't vote-- how lucky they are.

Democrats do and they have a lot of rules to do it. some of which change half way through a process, and that's alright, others which supposedly can't be changed and that's not alright?

And the changes are interchangeable, because ones that used to apply, no longer do, and one that didn't used to apply, now do.

So, that's why Elephant caucuses were so successful?

And when it comes to the Superdelegate rule, Obama made dirt out of it, a big part of every elephant's diet, however inadvertent.

"Meanwhile Obama is being quite the hypocrite, but then talking out of the side of his mouth is rapidly becoming one of his specialties..."

"On the one hand Obama is saying that voters should decide and the superdelegates should follow that lead, while at the same time he's aggressively trying to woo superdelegates to choose him, irregardless of the popular vote."

"Not surprisingly, Obama is missing the entire point of the superdelegates as well - which is no surprise and quite convenient since he hopes to end up with the most votes, but it certainly shows a gross disregard for the democratic process set forth in the nominating process rules."

whizbangblue

According to the Baltimore Sun, "Unlike members of Congress and governors, most of the largely anonymous DNC members lack significant experience in national campaigns. They haven't had to worry about whether an unpopular presidential nominee could sink their own careers because not many hold elective office."

According to one Superdelegate its a "philosophical question" as to whether other factors might also influence his vote, such as the interests of his trade association. This Superdelegate runs a lobbying arm of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, and "if your employer came to you" and expressed an opinion for one Democrat over another, he acknowledged, "you might take that into account."

Baltimore Sun

So, for the race to go on it weakens Obama's position and strengthens Clinton's. We all know that; at least all of us who aren't eating dirt!

The Clintons are getting desparate and ridiculous. She has every right to "Huckabee" up, but unless we find out that Obama partook in Michael Jackson's famous sleepovers, there's no way she's going to win by the 30 percent margins she needs. In the final contests.

Here's an example of the Clinton's stringing supporters along:

>>>"In it, the former president reminds people that 130 pledged delegates and less than one percent of the popular vote are all that separate Clinton from Obama. 'Millions of voters have yet to make their voices heard,' Clinton adds. 'This election should be about their choice.'"<<<

What a clever play on words. "Only 1 percent" and "only 130" pledged delegates separate the two-- but MILLIONS (millions!) have yet to vote. The conclusion they are trying to railroad you into is that Hillary can still close the popular vote and pledged delegate gap when the MILLIONS of people vote. The reality is SHE CANT.

drindl, because we are trying to condition the "bashers" on this site to post positively about their candidates of choice, we must approve of the tone and quality of the 4:42P post.

Please join me in approving that post.

'Leave it to the Democrats to create rules that no one can possibly follow...'

i get the feeling that a lot of obama and hillary bashers on this site are actually republicans...

Most people who are against Hillary don't really know very much about her.

She's a great Senator.

Here's her Senate Bio --

Hillary Rodham Clinton was elected to the United States Senate by the people of New York on November 7, 2000, after years of public service on behalf of children and families. She is the first First Lady of the United States elected to public office and the first woman elected independently statewide in New York State. A strong advocate for New York, Senator Clinton works with communities throughout the state to strengthen the economy and expand opportunity. The Senator supports a return to fiscal responsibility because she knows that wise national economic policies are essential to protect America's future.

She serves on the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; the Environment and Public Works Committee; the Special Committee on Aging; and she is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Senator Clinton worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to rebuild. She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero. She continues to work for resources that enable New York to grow, to improve homeland security for New York and other communities, and to protect all Americans from future attacks. She has introduced legislation to provide for direct and threat-based homeland security funding to ensure that first responders and high-target communities have the resources they need.

In 2004, Senator Clinton was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. She has visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan; at Fort Drum in New York, home of the 10th Mountain Division; and at Walter Reed Military Hospital to learn first hand the challenges facing American combat forces. She is an original sponsor of legislation that expanded health benefits to members of the National Guard and Reserves.

In the Senate, she has continued her work for children and families by leading efforts to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Pediatric Research Equity Act; working to strengthen the Children's Health Insurance Program, which increased coverage for children in low income working families; and helping schools address environmental hazards.

Senator Clinton continues to work to increase access to health care. She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve recruitment and retention of nurses, to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs, and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism. She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment against Global AIDS, and is now leading the fight for expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs and reduce medical errors.

To encourage business expansion, Senator Clinton co-sponsored legislation enacted in 2004 to extend tax credits to communities in regions designated as Renewal Communities. She has sponsored conferences and business development tours throughout the state aimed at attracting new investment; introduced legislation to increase access to broadband technology in rural areas; and serves as chair of the advisory board for New Jobs for New York.

Senator Clinton has spoken clearly about the importance of protecting our constitutional rights, respecting such landmark Supreme Court decisions as Roe v. Wade. Her commitment to supporting Roe and working to reduce the number of abortions, by reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, was hailed by the New York Times as "frank talk... (and) a promising path."

Strongly committed to making sure that every American has the right to vote in fair, accessible and credible elections - and that every vote must be counted, Senator Clinton introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005, to provide a verified paper ballot for every vote cast in electronic voting machines; set a uniform standard for provisional ballots, and require the Federal Election Assistance Commission to issue standards that ensure uniform access to voting machines and election personnel in every community.

Senator Clinton was born in Chicago, Illinois, on October 26, 1947. She is the daughter of Dorothy Rodham and the late Hugh Rodham. Her father was a small businessman and her mother a homemaker. She is a graduate of Wellesley College and Yale Law School. She is married to former President William Jefferson Clinton. They have one daughter, Chelsea.

Senator Clinton is the author of best selling books including her autobiography, Living History; It Takes A Village: and Other Lessons Children Teach Us; Dear Socks, Dear Buddy: Kids' Letters to the First Pets; and An Invitation to the White House as well as numerous articles.

The topic of dicussion is meaningless, because the important issues aren't being discussed, like changing the rules to fit one candidate and not another..Obama does not want votes counted and he wants to change the Superdelegate rules.

According to Whizbangblue, " for instance the rule about "superdelegate" rules have been in place for 25 years now, and to hear superdelegates saying they intend to rubber stamp the decisions of others is downright scary - but not surprising. "
"This IS the Democratic party, after all - and this year it's our election to lose. To hear Obama advocating that we ignore the nominating rules is not surprising in the least."

"Back in February, 2008 when Clinton was leading in Superdelegates, Obama wanted to change the rules. Reflecting the will of voters by rubber stamping the most popular candidate isn't the intent of the rules establishing superdelegates either, or why would you need the "superdelegate" category anyway? "

So, it would appear that not only are the Superdelegate rules being intentionally mangled to fit one political agenda, the rules are as inscrutable as they are intractable. Leave it to the Democrats to create rules that no one can possibly follow...

hey mark, you should get one of those irobots -- poolcleaners. very cool.

As an Obama supporter, I find these calls for her to drop out to be premature and sort of pointless. She should continue campaigning until she runs out of money.

The tenor of her attacks is problematic, but I think it's good to get all this out now against Obama to blunt it's impact in November.

It also exposes her and her aggressive supporters for exactly who they are....and depending on how you view politics and how you want politics to be in the future, this is either a good thing, or a bad thing.

'Given the Clintons' high standing in the party, '

Not any more, CC. Her tactics, the tenor of her campaign, has turned a lot of diehard dems and former supporters away. I can't even stand Bill now.Sad but true.

There is no obvious reason why HRC should withdraw. If the so-called pros got the two D campaigns to fire outward while standing back-to-back that would make sense, but for a candidate with 49% support to quit early makes no sense.

I suspect that there is not much cohesion among D pros. What else is new?
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