Fix Pick: The Arrogance Equation
Running for president is inherently an act of egotism. It requires a candidate to believe wholeheartedly that he or she alone is best equipped to run the country.
Under the best circumstances, the self confidence required to run for president is balanced by the humility engendered by knowing the hopes and dreams of millions of Americans rest on your ability to do the job well.
The best politicians are those who rarely, if ever, let voters see the self-confidence that underpins their ability to do the job. The less skilled, however, are unable to hide a confidence that often borders on arrogance -- a trait that stokes resentment rather than respect from voters.
Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) is one of the most naturally gifted politicians on the national scene at the moment and may well be the most skilled orator since former president Bill Clinton.
But according to the Associated Press's Ron Fournier, Obama may also be a little too full of himself for his own good.
"There's a line smart politicians don't cross -- somewhere between 'I'm qualified to be president' and 'I'm born to be president," writes Fournier in his "On Deadline" column. "Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step. He's bordering on arrogance."
Fournier goes on to cite a number of examples of this alleged "arrogance," from Obama telling reporters that "to know me is to love me" to his assertion on the campaign trail that "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there."
We've written in this space about the danger of appearing self-infatuated and the power of Obama's rhetoric. The instance we cited was during a debate with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) in Austin, Texas, in which, defending himself from charges of plagiarism, Obama said this: "So what I've been talking about, in [these] speeches -- and I've got to admit, some of them are pretty good."
For those who would decry Fournier as simply an Obama "hater" make sure to read the full column. Fournier calls Clinton the "model of overbearing pride" and adds: "This is a woman, after all, who claims experience from her eight years as first lady but won't release her White House records; who trails Obama in delegates but deigned to suggest he'd be her running mate; and who has more baggage than Samsonite yet says Obama lacks 'vetting.'"
And whether you agree with what Fournier has to say or not, he is very influential. The former lead political writer at the AP and now an editor within the organization, when Fournier writes, people listen. The column on Obama sat on the Drudge Report, a must-stop for television producers, all day yesterday and was the third most e-mailed story on Yahoo News yesterday.
Given his reach, Fournier's column on Obama could well drive a day's (or even several days) worth of news cycles.
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Posted by: jreno20 | March 24, 2008 9:27 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:05 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:05 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:05 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:05 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:04 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:04 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:02 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:02 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 12:02 PM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 11:49 AM
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Posted by: rleb2002 | March 24, 2008 11:49 AM
Obama may be full of himself or "arrogant", but he also is quite "intelligent". Given our current situation of "arrogance beyond reason", and throw in the complete lack of intelligence, literacy, simple-minded mentality, cronycorruption, and most important total lack of moral values, I would take Mr. Obama's "intelligent arrogance" anyday. I bet Mr. Obama is also mentally capable of withstanding "critisism" unlike our current "idiot and chief" whose simple mind can't possible tolerate it.
Posted by: dtdebbie8 | March 21, 2008 10:52 AM
This post is just stupid.
But this is worth reading...
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/20/212221/867/53/477939
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Posted by: julieds | March 20, 2008 10:08 PM
That's all you can come up with for evidence of arrogance?! A couple sarcastic off-the-cuff comments? I've read his book A of H, watched most of the debates, and watched many speeches. BHO has never come across as arrogant.
Can anyone see Hillary NOT being pilloried assuming the position of Obama in his Vanity Fair profile, laying back feet on desk capped off with a self-satisfied smile ??
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803?printable=true¤tPage=all
Posted by: elayman | March 19, 2008 4:56 PM
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803?printable=true¤tPage=all
Get a look at this lead shot from the Vanity Fair profile and substitute Hillary reclining with a big self-satisfied smile as her feet strech up on the desk...Don't think she'd be mercilessly pilloried for that ? Or it simply wouldn't have gone unnoticed as Obama's evident satisfaction with life ?
Posted by: elayman | March 19, 2008 4:51 PM
Obama is an opportunist, he uses from other their words , ideas and solutions to the issues facing America. He has a serious problem with the fact that he is white/black and uses it to get the best of both worlds. His speeches are good , there just like the ones that people hear in church on Sunday. His friendship with Rezko , was financial. He excepted his donor money until he started running for President, then he only took Straw donor and bundlers money. Belonging to Rev. Wright church gave him access to large congregation , many votes and part of the black community. The race to the White house has always been about race (black vs white) but he wanted Hillary or the media to acknowledge it. The only reason he spoke on it was to excuse Rev. Wright rhetoric and blame his remarks on white America. So say one is judge by the company they keep, well this just might be one of those times.
Posted by: jpannebecker | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM
That's all you can come up with for evidence of arrogance?! A couple sarcastic off-the-cuff comments? I've read his book A of H, watched most of the debates, and watched many speeches. BHO has never come across as arrogant. The only ones who seem to think that are those who are miffed at his 'arrogance' for deigning to dethrone Hillary who gives the impression that she thinks she is *owed* the nomination.
Posted by: e2holmes | March 19, 2008 11:14 AM
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
"There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don't know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president." Kurt Vonnegut
As usual the incomparable Vonnegut got it right. Obama wins hands down via the process of elimination. Only fellow inmates in the asylum could even consider voting for McCain and then only as a result of being in the 'john' when the med line was assembled. Fournier's statement regarding the Clinton's right to be arrogant because they're more entitled to arrogance than is Obama is so stupifyingly stupid as to defy a reaction:
"The Clintons' utter self-absorption comes with a record of achievement and brass-knuckle passion that Obama cannot match". Incredibly, despite Fournier's history in my native state's (Arkansas) journalism circles, he must have been oblivious to the Clintons' enabling the " tainted blood" scandal, turning a blind eye to the politically connected murders of teens Janie Ward, Kevin Ives, Don Henry, all things Fahmy Malek,
carte blanche to the corporate abuses of the Tysons, Stephens, Waltons; in fact, caving to all things corporate from 1982 to the present moment.
Carolyn Baker reports; "Daniel Estulin is a Madrid-based journalist and an investigative reporter who took on the daunting and dangerous task of researching the Bildeberg Group, and who offers his findings in 'The True Story Of The Bilderberg Group', recently published by Trine Day. Equally intriguing as his harrowing tales of being followed and nearly killed on a couple of occasions while working on the book, is the manner in which Estulin connects the dots between the Bilderberg Group, world events, notable politicians and corporate tycoons and the two other secretive monsters of the ruling elite, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission (TC). The project lasted fifteen years and was motivated by Estulin's curiosity about how it is that the mainstream media has never covered in depth the meetings of the Bilderberg Group whose combined wealth exceeds the combined wealth of all U.S. citizens. "
What Estulin's book makes clear is that the group, along with the CFR and TC, has become a shadow government whose top priority is to erase the sovereignty of all nation-states and supplant them with global corporate control of their economies under the surveillance of "an electronic global police state."
The Bilderbergs, The Council on Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commission are the conjoined triplets born of the Ruling Elite/One World Government coupling. Interestingly,only two people are currently active members of all three groups: Dick Cheney and Bill Clinton. And there are still brain dead folks with Arkansas connections who still defend the Clintons, Fournier ??
Posted by: mrtshw | March 19, 2008 10:02 AM
Mr. Obama was not arrogant in his decision. He was courageous. I support someone who chooses personhood over the typical political way. It is refreshing, encouraging, and hopeful. More power to you Mr. Obama. More power to you!
Posted by: denisescreen | March 19, 2008 9:17 AM
The intent of this speech was like Oprah's appeal to female voters, it's okay, you can vote for Obama. Does anyone think for a minute that the speech was NOT intended to give people permission to vote for him; because it's time to make reparations to the Black community for all that we've done, and we can never close the divide unless we do that? It's okay that he has 99% of the black vote, isnt' that racist?
Using race to win an election is highly
ignoble.
Posted by: vammap | March 19, 2008 7:52 AM
Patrick, you may prove correct that BHO now has no chance of being selected or elected.
I read the transcript last night and BHO's was an excellent speech. Among the best I have ever read concerning race in America; certainly the best current speech on the topic.
My first statement and my second stand independently.
Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 19, 2008 7:37 AM
Obama's speach was by far the most intelligent and thoughtfull thing I have heard in this campaign by any of the candidates. I hope he wins the nomination and the presidency. But even if he doesn't he has said what truely needed to be said. He has far more integrety and honesty than either of the Clintons, or McCain.
Posted by: fred_flintstone | March 19, 2008 12:59 AM
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Has more honesty? Really. On Friday he said he never heard Wright say anything racist while in his church, yesterday he said he did. He lied. Honesty? Get a grip. This fake will never get elected. If he loses liberal NYC whites like me, what chance does he have with middle America. And as usual there are no follow ups on this from the Wa Po or NY Times, so much for fair coverage of one of the most important stories in this election.
Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | March 19, 2008 7:30 AM
What could be more arrogant than Clinton staying in the race when she has no chance of winning the most pledged delegates or the popular vote? Sheesh, Cillizza, get a grip. I wish you had gone on a couples retreat with Fournier for your vacation. You both badly need a reality check.
Posted by: Brian15 | March 19, 2008 5:38 AM
Whilst this primary fight goes forward, the Clintons are quietly and selflessly moving forward with action and green solutions, for our youth and for our country.
Described by Bill Clinton to Greta current work is underway in New Orleans to establish a New Orleans University where students come to implement new green energy and housing solutions as part of their course work, and at no cost to the students.
The project and others by the Global Initiative is so impressive, especially when he explains they encourage young computer techies to come up with new ideas and solutions to pressing problems. The University will help them implement innovative solutions to help green up America and provide efficient housing, energy and University experience for our youth.
Richard Branson pledged an estimated $3 billion to combat global warming at a Clinton Global Initiative in New York City, and said that over the next 10 years he will invest 100 percent of all profits from Virgin's transportation businesses toward tackling this international problem. During its second day of meetings, the Initiative also received monetary commitments to create safe spaces for Jewish and Muslim communities, improve diagnostic services in Uganda, and help more than 50 million people work their way out of poverty. Branson also made a commitment to develop alternative fuel for jets, for which none has yet been found.
Seeing creative economics at work again, in action, brings back fond memories of balanced budgets and innovative thinking of the 90's. The Clintons are truly about solutions, and it's a shame Senator Clinton is being scrutinized in a way that doesn't allow her genious to shine. She truly is one of the great intellects of our times. And along with her husband, the two of them make positive change for the country.
Every one indeed has amnesia if they don't remember the creative solutions the Clintons are capable of initiating, which actually produce really positive results!
Posted by: thinktank | March 19, 2008 4:54 AM
Chris,
Normally I pay attention to your comments. Even when I disagree with you I usually find something in your remarks that gets me thinking. However, in this case you really...totally...absoulutely missed the boat.
Obama's speach was by far the most intelligent and thoughtfull thing I have heard in this campaign by any of the candidates. I hope he wins the nomination and the presidency. But even if he doesn't he has said what truely needed to be said. He has far more integrety and honesty than either of the Clintons, or McCain.
Posted by: fred_flintstone | March 19, 2008 12:59 AM
drindl, thanks for digging so deeply into the conservative psyche on all our behalfs. Really original work. Whew! Like whenever I try and comprehend Kristol, I feel this overwhelming darkness, that makes me want to just murder innocent Iraqis. So I applaud you on your courage. I just hope you haven't completely been taken over by the dark side by the attempt.
Posted by: muaddib_7 | March 19, 2008 12:41 AM
ohmigod! svreader you have posted such COGENT commentary! You have just OPENED my eyes by your shear argumentative BRILLIANCE! I cannot beleive someone is able to cut and past as good as you can?! oh yes you can. oh yes you did. I am totally blown away. Really terrific stuff. Keep up the good work! You are really changin' hearts and minds with 'yer posts.
Its like on the 15000th time, it finally sinks in, like you're SOOOOOO right! You know. It's great, really great. It is so clear to me now, like Obama should have been enforcing leases and stuff and paying peoples electric bills if they couldn't take care of it themselves. Like you're right, such a hypocrite. Like, you and I, should like burn all of BO's speeches in the slums so like all the poor people can stay warm. LOL! Yeah! That would be totallly AWESOME. Like that would be 'more than just words.' He. Hehehe. You get it? (I know I am not half as smart as you--I mean, WOW!)
I wonder what his healthcare plan is like svreader? Could you give me another of your cogent overviews? I'd really appreciate it. All of us folk working the night shift over at Sparc, could really use the briefs. thanks so much for your help!
Posted by: muaddib_7 | March 19, 2008 12:34 AM
It took an awfully big ego to put a dent in Clinton's ego given that she was so "inevitable" just a few months ago. The amount of pride that labeling oneself "inevitable" takes is immense, and Clinton contributed to her own downfall by giving herself this label. And now the two uber-egos are locked in a wearying battle that everyone is beginning to become fatigued by.
Whichever of these two wins, I have to wonder if the nominee's pride isn't going to be sulking for some time after finally wrapping up the nomination, allowing McCain's equally gargantuan ego to blunder about unopposed.
And with that gaffe in Jordan today, yes, McCain's ego is blundering about.
Posted by: blert | March 19, 2008 12:32 AM
those gd uppity n*ggers. oh wait, this isn't the KKK website? my bad.
leichtman wrote: "checked bloggers at my dd and found pretty universally the Obama supporters."
Oh wow you got some info about Obama supporters from MyDD?! Was it another cut and paste job from HRC 08? I sure it MUST be true.
Posted by: muaddib_7 | March 19, 2008 12:23 AM
I suppose that's the danger of ironic humor. Not everyone GETS it.
Posted by: democraticvoter | March 18, 2008 11:49 PM
Chris,
It simply astounds me to hear journalists criticize Obama for being "cocky", when for the last 8 years, George Bush, who's most defining characteristics are arrogance and cockiness (see aircraft carrier landing in flight suit) has largely gotten a pass on this from the media. Sure, journalists recognize that Bush is cocky and arrogant, but they just shrug it off as part of his personality and sometimes even laud him for it as a sign of confidence (see fawning press coverage of carrier landing), while Obama, who is one of the more humble, sincere leaders to run for President in a while, is watched like a hawk for the slightest sign of having an ego.
Fournier takes comments that Obama clearly meant to be self-depricating attempts to poke fun at himself and falsely characterizes them as examples of arrogance.
There appears to be a double standard at work here. Can you imagine if a President Obama were strutting around on the deck of an aircraft carrier like George Bush? Is there any doubt that media would have his head?
Ron Fournier also says in his article that it's okay for the Clinton's to be arrogant because "people expect it" from them. So, it's okay for George Bush and Hillary Clinton to have large egos, but not Obama. It's hard not to see this disparate treatment as having a racial component. The message seems to be that it's okay for white politicians to be arrogant at times, but it is not acceptable for black candidates.
Another recent example of this attitude was exemplified by Newsweek's Evan Thomas on PBS's "Inside Washington" recently, when he stated that the Obama's were "99 percent attractive, but 1 percent cocky. And they need to watch that." Does no one recognize the almost comical disparity here in the standard Obama is being held to? Just substitute the word "Bush's" for "Obama's" in the above statement to see how ridiculous that sounds.
Before you or any other journalist criticize Obama for being cocky, I suggest you try a thought experiment and ask yourself if a white candidate (Bush, Cheney, Hillary, Guiliani, Schwarzenegger, et. al) did or said the same thing how you would percieve it.
By the way, Fournier also dismisses Obama's initial speech against the war by falsely stating that there was no political risk to Obama at the time. Quite the contrary, Obama was in the middle of a very tough primary fight to be the Democratic nominee for the Senate in IL -- a race that he wasn't expected to win. It's hard to understand how a political journalist like Fournier could have not been aware of this well-known fact.
Posted by: CBS64 | March 18, 2008 11:34 PM
checked bloggers at my dd and found pretty universally the Obama supporters concluding "maybe we can stop Michigan revoting in the credentials committee".
And they attack karl Rove's tactics. This is not a high school footbal game.
Posted by: leichtman | March 18, 2008 11:15 PM
Louise Fletcher,
Arrogant can be defined as too prideful. What Hillary said is that she would prefer that Michigan is counted as is. Barak would prefer that Florida and Michigan are not counted so that he could not have to lose 9/10 largest states, or potentially the popular vote- and could keep his argument as to why the superdelegates should support him. It's politics dear, not pride. The other stuff, said both publically and privately by Barak is arrogant. Arrogant is thinking because you are Barak, you can equate a one time- not even entirely untrue but politically disadvantageous quote by an associate of Clinton's in a small CA newspaper to your twenty year relationship with a guy who has said some pretty awful things- let's go back to Baraks premise- what kind of judgement is this?
Pretty arrogant to think a pretty speech should erase lack of judgement
Leon
Posted by: nycLeon | March 18, 2008 11:03 PM
so wpost I know you are an Obama apologist, then you are comfortable with the Obama campaign playing a game of chicken(Chuck Todd's characterization) with the millions of voters in Michigan and Florida, right? If your candidate still manages to get the nomination I would highly recommend that he stay out of those 2 states in the general election.
Posted by: leichtman | March 18, 2008 8:20 PM
Hello Russia, Communist China!
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LOL. Talk about zealotry! Once again, we find ourselves in a histrionic high school drama.
Posted by: wpost4112 | March 18, 2008 8:04 PM
With the exception of the lunatic fringe, I can't see how Obama is going to remain ahead when the supposed uniter wants to disenfranchise anyone who doesn't support him. Hello Russia, Communist China!
It's been all over the media, Obama finally came out and admitted his 15 year relationship with Rezko and admitting he did take $250,000 in campaign contributions. Obama's response to Rezko's shady dealings was similar to his response to the Pastor's un-Americanism.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/obama-admits-more-extensi_n_91652.html
Obviously zealots need a lot more than spoon feeding, they call it force feeding.
Posted by: vammap | March 18, 2008 7:24 PM
FWIW, I searched "Obama Rezko 1997" -- the key words in the quote svliar SAID came from the Chicago Sun-Times. The purported article didn't show up. matter of fact, I couldn't find the article despite repeated combinations of keywords.
So I'll be interested to see if svliar can, for once, back up his claim.
Posted by: gbooksdc | March 18, 2008 7:13 PM
On MSNBC Chuck Todd just stated that the Obama campaign plans on playing a game of chicken with Michigan and Florida voters. That is exactly why Michigan did not hear from them today regarding a Michigan revote supported by Michigan Governor Granholm.
That pretty much summarizes the word arrogant, and tells us that the campaign of hope and changing politics as usual has now been replaced with political cynicism.
When I posted that yesterday, I was met with Senator Obama's campaign would never do this. Chuck Todd by his comment a few minutes ago on MSNBC just told us that that is in fact his campaign's strategy.
Posted by: leichtman | March 18, 2008 7:12 PM
drooler, you really should put "ignore moonbats on" before you start flooding the boards with responses to moonbats.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 7:10 PM
Chris,
So you have a schoolboy crunch on Mr. Fournier and all things political written by this meritorious scribe.
When a reporter or a commentator becomes the story, that is the definition of professional arrogance.
Mr.Fournier in becoming the story, what an arrogant critic on arrogance. Cheer him on at your own peril.
I rate a piece of writing two ways. Either it is so good I rate it a keeper and I copy and paste it to my computer or when finished reading I am so annoyed by the inherent contradictions, the contorted mess of it all to get nowhere, that idotic is the adjective best suited to send it off into abjection, never to be remembered.
The Fournier article you refer to is not a keeper.
Are you in agreement with Mr. Fournier that the Billarys have a birthright to arrogance and Mr. Obama is some sort of uppity nincompoop? Now, who's the arrogant.
Posted by: rfpiktor | March 18, 2008 7:01 PM
svliar:
You've posted about Rezko and Obama over 110 times. What state or local or federal agency has accused Sen. Obama of wrongdoing? What reputable newspaper has done so? In other words, what do people who are not Clinton partisans have to say about it?
PS You know I'll check anything you post, so provide cites.
Posted by: gbooksdc | March 18, 2008 6:54 PM
Cite, svreader. Because it's not beneath you to lie and call names.
Posted by: gbooksdc | March 18, 2008 6:51 PM
Words matter. What a person actually does matters much more.
We've seen case after case where Obama has come out with a flowerly speech to try to cover the smell of a very bad decision.
Words, no matter how inspiring, cannot warm the people who froze in "Obama's Slums"
How do you explain away the fact that Obaama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?
From the Chicago Sun Times:
For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.
It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.
Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.
But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....
The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.
"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''
Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....
Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.
Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:
* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.
* Six buildings are currently boarded up.
* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.
* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.
* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.
Posted by: svreader | March 18, 2008 6:45 PM
Poor old LOUD and DUMB. flummoxed again by the evil zouk.
if you want to have a battle of the wits, it would be best to borrow some.
but as a favor to the less fortunate, I will return to ignoring you from now on. take on someone more your style and speed - ignorant and slow. Perhaps rufas will return or maybe drindl turns you on. Oh... except you are all carbon copies of each other. too bad.
//ignore moonbats on//
ttfn
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:36 PM
right about now LOUD and DUMB is scouring previous message boards for my claim to own a buggatti. He won't find it and the topic will drop, once again exposing the fool.
Easy prediciton - two line insult to follow. signed Spectator aka LOUD and DUMB. Isn't that great when a nickname fits so well?
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:27 PM
so you can't find the link? is that it? I don't suppose this is the first time in your life that your big mouth and your boasting has painted you into an uncomfortable corner of your own making.
did they pick on you as a kid? Was it cause you were scrawny or dumb or both?
It is amazing that drindl and LOUD and DUMB know all about what house you live in, what car you drive, what education you have, what job you have, etc.
I guess anything to avoid their own pitiful unfullfilled lives and the miserable failures they are. If you are so liberal, why the obsession with material things? how could you possibly know anything about any anonymous poster on this board? your claims make you look even more silly, if that is even conceivable.
I have got to kick this bad habit of engaging moonbats. Starting tomorrow.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:23 PM
" while you are driving in your little old Honda civic "
Hey man, don't dog my highly efficient, low maintenance driving machine.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 6:18 PM
People who speak about themselves in the third person are definately arrogant.
Not to mention a little creepy.
Posted by: slbk | March 18, 2008 6:16 PM
I pay little attention
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 06:03 PM
Indeed. while you are driving in your little old Honda civic out to your townhouse in the boonies down 66, waiting hours in traffic for the rest of the rubes to get out of your way, I can imagine you think up all sorts of clever one liners to spring on the Fix when you get home.
all that unrecognized "genius" at work can finally be displayed and fulfilled with the cute two-line schoolyard insults and repartee.
why do you think the name LOUD and DUMB stuck so well?
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:16 PM
right SFB, I'd make up your hilarious misspelling of the car you claim to own.
Buggati. Now that is hilarious. Almost as hilarious as you continuing the "I have a very expensive car" charade. Give it up, little boy. No one believed you the first time.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 6:13 PM
'Awesome timing, Chris.
Did you hear his speech today?'
Pretty funny. I wonder if the Fix knows how bad this story looks today.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 6:10 PM
Of course you did. Unlike you, I don't make things up.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 06:01 PM
Show me the link if you are so sure. why would I make up the car I drive - to impress you?
not all of your lives are as pitiful as yours. don't project your weakness and envy on the rest of us. Only Libs appreciate that sort of feebleness.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:09 PM
svliar:
Where that lawsuit? You said yesterday I didn't know how much trouble I was in! Was that _just another_ of your lies? Are you being represented by the fictional lawyers that work for the fictional publisher of the fictional book you said you held in your own little hands? And why DID you stop posting about "Obama's Slums"?
Oh, right, I/m gay. That's a hell of rebuttal to nearly a dozen fact-based indictments of your honesty. Geez, that's as lame as hitting on commenters (care to deny you've tried to do THAT?).
Posted by: gbooksdc | March 18, 2008 6:07 PM
"So why spend all this time & energy whining about double standards? Did you even bother to read or listen to the speech?"
Actually, I did read the speech.
And I'm getting a little tired of you accusing me of being uninterested, uninformed, or lazy, just because I don't say something you agree with.
Get off your soap box
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 6:06 PM
"LOUD and DUMB:
It must really burn you up with envy that your entire day is consumed with zouk's car. I guess the part about being smarter, richer, better looking, more adroit, more educated, funnier, clever, witty and original is just too much to hope for in your case. Yeah, you're right. it is way beyond any reasonable expectation for you to ever attain my level. Stick with hoping for a Porsche. you could start with a ten year old boxster. you, like all Libs, are just a victim, it is not your fault you are so dense."
LOL Nerve struck. Job complete.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 6:06 PM
Awesome timing, Chris.
Did you hear his speech today?
Posted by: abt16 | March 18, 2008 6:05 PM
LOUD and DUMB:
It must really burn you up with envy that your entire day is consumed with zouk's car. I guess the part about being smarter, richer, better looking, more adroit, more educated, funnier, clever, witty and original is just too much to hope for in your case. Yeah, you're right. it is way beyond any reasonable expectation for you to ever attain my level. Stick with hoping for a Porsche. you could start with a ten year old boxster. you, like all Libs, are just a victim, it is not your fault you are so dense.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 6:04 PM
Mike: From what I have read of them, pretty pathetic. But then again I'm not big on preachers and I pay little attention to what any of them have to say.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 6:03 PM
howdy999 writes
"If Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, you can expect endless display of right-wing swiftboat ads on his controversial relationship with Wright. At the same time, the GOP will paint McCain in glowing patriotic colors. Who do you think is going to win?"
Obama, hands down. When Sen 'Foreign Policy Experience' McCain has to be reminded by Joe Lieberman the distinction between Shiite and Sunni in Iraq, its not a good sign for his credibility. If the GOP keeps harping on the Wright comments and trying to guilt Obama by association, the Dems & the swing voters are going to choose optimism over pessimism. They did it with Reagan, Clinton & even GW Bush, though to a lesser degree.
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 6:02 PM
"I never said I had a bugatti, nincompoop."
Oh please, you sad sack of crap. Of course you did. Unlike you, I don't make things up.
Now get back to work, it's dinner time and cars are backing up, ace.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 6:01 PM
"Now we're talking about double standards."
Double standards exist everywhere. If I call HRC a 'itch, I am called a misogynist pig. If Tina Fey calls her the same thing, its comedy.
I thought Obama made a very perceptive comment in his speech today about middle and low income white people who wonder why black people get the breaks from affirmative action programs (and other things). He talked about addressing the systemic issues that are making the lives of low and middle income people of all races difficult, by working together.
He also made the point that comments by his former pastor are part of the problem. Sen Obama wants to work on solutions that will work for Americans of all types, whether grouped by race, gender, economic status or religion.
So why spend all this time & energy whining about double standards? Did you even bother to read or listen to the speech?
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:57 PM
I never said I had a bugatti, nincompoop. Is that why you come here? I thought you said you have a life, numbnuts? anyone spill anything on you at the drive-thru window today. I hear that is the new prank.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:55 PM
Spec,
without flames, I'm curious - what did you think of Pastor Wright's comments?
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 5:54 PM
This debate will never get back to what matters and that's the environment, the economy, health care and energy. If Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, you can expect endless display of right-wing swiftboat ads on his controversial relationship with Wright. At the same time, the GOP will paint McCain in glowing patriotic colors. Who do you think is going to win?
Posted by: howdy999 | March 18, 2008 5:54 PM
I have come to the realization that zouk probably does drive many fine cars.
Of course, it's always preceded by, "Here are the keys, boy, we'll be done with our meal in two hours."
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 5:53 PM
"LOUD and DUMB - took you all day to come up with that? even more inane than usual."
Um, no, ace. Unlike complete losers like you, I have a life
"why would I step down into a Lotus or Maseratti? I am considering a Ferrari or a Lambo."
Your attempts at humor are breathtaking in their ineptitude. Try at least spelling the name of your alleged car right the first time, clown.
"Not surprising that your total ignorance didn't stop you from making a fool of yuorself, as usual."
The little boy who talks about his "Buggati" thinks other people are making fools of themselves? Now that's funny.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 5:51 PM
bsimon - you might have a point as well. Unfortunately, shocking and ugly only works if people don't take you out of context.
For example, sometimes Rush is shocking and ugly. As is Ann Coulter. What kind of treatment do they get? Letters of condemnation from the Senate Majority Leader, who never took the time to listen to an in-context quote.
Now we're talking about double standards. And the one time a liberal's shock and ugliness is heard without context, we just don't know what to do!
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 5:49 PM
LOUD and DUMB - took you all day to come up with that? even more inane than usual.
why would I step down into a Lotus or Maseratti? I am considering a Ferrari or a Lambo. Not surprising that your total ignorance didn't stop you from making a fool of yuorself, as usual.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:48 PM
Mark -- your French, and humor, are not wasted. I am much amused.
Are you really a lefty?
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 5:46 PM
"I suspect you'd agree that 'most reasonable people' would agree his statements were shocking and ugly, if only sound bytes."
They are, on their face, shocking and ugly. From all appearances, they were intended to be shocking and ugly. Sometimes people are deliberately shocking and ugly, in order to make a point. By focusing on the shocking nature and ugliness of the comments, people are missing the point.
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:46 PM
Shouldn't you be out driving your "Buggati"? If that one's in the shop, maybe they can loan you a Lowtus or a Mazzerati.
Posted by: Spectator2 | March 18, 2008 5:43 PM
illinois2 -- I appreciate the exercise, but it doesn't go far enough in explaining away the insanity of this man.
Sometimes, if someone seems vile, hateful, and ignorant (like drindl), that's what they really are. No need to search for a hidden genius wrapped up in filth.
I'm with Proud - not only is there no excuse for what he said, but to defend his GD America statement is in itself ugly.
I suspect you'd agree that 'most reasonable people' would agree his statements were shocking and ugly, if only sound bytes.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 5:42 PM
Remember my monster movie prediction:
Sen. Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Sen. Barack Obama in the Pennsylvania Democratic presidential primary battle, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Sen. Clinton now leads Sen. Obama, 53 to 41 percent among likely primary voters, the poll said. (Snip) In the latest survey, the split between black and white voters has grown. Sen. Clinton has widened her lead among women likely Democratic primary voters and narrowed Sen. Obama's lead among men.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:36 PM
actually, I meant glowering metaphorically. but the more I think of it, perhaps he was just posturing for Israel.
Syria is their big pain in the, uh... neck.
Posted by: AdrickHenry | March 18, 2008 5:28 PM
Mike, I didn't initially respond to your other two points because I didn't go back to see if you had responded until after I wrote something about GD America.
Sorry if you don't think explanations are a worthwhile venture... I just think that people think about and express things in radically different ways, based on very different life experiences, and that when words seem to come from out of left field (if they seem shocking, or ignorant, or crazy), it's worth giving the words some thought before you dismiss a person as evil or nuts or whatever.
Posted by: illinois2 | March 18, 2008 5:26 PM
As a southpaw with two left feet, I have been constantly aware of the linguistic savagery that kept me from achieving my potential. How was I to overcome being thought of as "gauche" and "sinister" by my teachers and school mates?
Learning to come off the mound quickly, to bend to pick up the spinning bunt, turn 180, set, and throw to first was so overwhelming.
And then three years of mechanical drawing - 1958-60 - with india ink! Can you feel my pain as I drew every simple machine and turbine, every office building and airplane schematic, from the backhanded position?
Oh, woe is me. Gauche and sinister.
And scissors? And the placement of the toilet paper? It was all so Unfair!.
You "droits" have it so easy.
Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 18, 2008 5:25 PM
"did it seem to you that he was casting a "glowering eye" at Syria?"
That's how he always looks.
(I'll have to review the coverage to provide a more serious response)
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:22 PM
"gauche - another good word from the French for left... Funny how the truth penetrates the language so well."
Glad to see I was right. You might call it an adroit prediction. What amuses me is your predictability.
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:21 PM
Americans have a right to own guns, Supreme Court justices declared Tuesday in a historic and lively debate that could lead to the most significant interpretation of the Second Amendment since its ratification two centuries ago.
Oh no another leftist position crumbling. what is a tired old, smelly 60s hippie to do. drindl??????
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:20 PM
not sure the DNC wants to bring up knowledge of Iraq/Iran/ ME/SW Asia. Obambi can't even find the committee room for his Afghan oversight hearings. busy, busy. going to church, voting present, not deciding, giving speeches, covering errors.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:18 PM
bsimon, but did it seem to you that he was casting a "glowering eye" at Syria?
Posted by: AdrickHenry | March 18, 2008 5:16 PM
gauche - another good word from the French for left
In english it means rude, uneducated, clumsy, drindlesque
In French,right is droit - in english adroit means capable, nimble, clever.
Funny how the truth penetrates the language so well.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:15 PM
"Anybody else see that article that just came in from Ass. Press about McCain accusing Iran of aiding al-Qaeda?
I view it as he just mispoke, although I'm sure his opponents will try to make more of it, saying he doesn't have a grasp of the realities on the ground."
You're probably correct, on all counts. The article I scanned implied he was mixed up about Sunni vs Shiite loyalties & connections to Iran.
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:14 PM
"Interesting word - sinister"
If you like 'sinister', you'll likely find 'gauche' amusing as well.
Posted by: bsimon | March 18, 2008 5:11 PM
I've been listening to Iran for over 20 years and believe me, they have never said anything I wouldn't want my small daughter to hear. It is all out of context and nothing more than local bravado.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 5:09 PM
Anybody else see that article that just came in from Ass. Press about McCain accusing Iran of aiding al-Qaeda?
I view it as he just mispoke (I hope), although I'm sure his opponents will try to make more of it, saying he doesn't have a grasp of the realities on the ground.
What caught my eye, was that he seemed to be warning Syria.
Anyone else pick that up?
Posted by: AdrickHenry | March 18, 2008 5:06 PM
USMC_Mike and illinois2:
Sadly, I haven't taken the time to see all of Wright's rants.
The AIDS/HIV thing is clearly stupid, but to give him the benefit of the doubt, he might be mixing the Tuskegee syphilis study with the Tuskegee airmen -- obviously two different things. There's no excuse for the Tuskegee syphilis study. But we have come a long way since then, or else we would have rounded up all the Arab-Americans after 9/11 and sent them to internment camps in the Southwest.
Posted by: mnteng | March 18, 2008 5:04 PM
Interesting word - sinister
It now means something evil and lurking. It comes from the italian for "from the left".
Perfect
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:59 PM
Thanks for the answer Mike.
It's interesting that you bring up syphilis and AIDS...
A number of years ago, I met an applied anthropologist who was hired to find out why a group of black IV drug users in D.C. were surprisingly resistant to getting AIDS tests. He found that many of them believed that when their blood was drawn, they were being infected with the virus. He asked what would make them think that public health workers would do such a thing and, among other things, they told him about the government syphilis experiments at Tuskegee.
The government did not infect the men at Tuskegee, but they did withhold promised treatment and watch them suffer horrible deaths in the name of research that lasted 40 years (1942-72). (Pres. Clinton officially apologized to the few that survived in 1997).
The stories about AIDS sound like paranoid conspiracy theories and I certainly don't believe them, but I think real experience has taught some people that trusting the government doesn't make sense. It strikes me as more tragic than foolish or hateful.
Posted by: illinois2 | March 18, 2008 4:59 PM
Obama is right about one thing: We are losing yet another opportunity to talk honestly about race, to hold all Americans to the same standards of public ethics and morality, and to emphasize that no one gets a pass peddling vulgar racism, or enabling it by failing to disassociate himself from its source -- not Rev. Wright, not even the eloquent, but now vapid, Barack Obama.
VDH
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWVkMThjN2RjNDU2N2EzODE1YWRmZmQwMTE0YWFkMzg=&w=MQ==
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:56 PM
"Reasonable interpretation?"
Absolutely not. He said "God Bless America? No, No NO, God Damn America! That's in the bible"
fyi, it's not in any Bible I've ever read, and this is a far cry from the gospel message. Trying to parse these extremely offensive statements in order to logically explain them is in itself offensive.
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | March 18, 2008 4:54 PM
leichtman, "proud" would be the best person regularly posting here to reply about McC-and-the-Beach Boys, but I have truly respected and liked McC ever since he became a reform minded conservative after Keating. I sent him money both in 2000 and now.
I wish McC had not sung "Bomb...". But I do not weigh it heavily in the scale of gold- and-scheiss. I lean toward McC now.
BUT - he has recently added a group of neocons to his foreign policy team. I was made aware of this last night. I think Bill Kristol is one offer of advice away from our next disaster, and we may not have nine lives to give in the cause of the Wilsonian march to enlightenment by force.
So that we are clear, Jim Baker advising McC or Powell advising McC or Lugar advising McC would rectify my new "issue".
I will watch this development closely.
Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 18, 2008 4:51 PM
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cosmic_cointelpro_1935.htm
"1935
The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations. "
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:50 PM
"God Damn all this conservatives who are trying to destroy Obama. Their racism and hate that whites are voting for this man is clear to the eyes to see. The wrath of God will destroy this evil men and women. From O'reilly to Hannity and the empty skirts on fox news and radio."
Wow.
He truly is Messianic.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:46 PM
Chris, I rarely take time from work to comment on article. I've often enjoyed your perspective, even those I disagree with. I recognize that, yes, indeed, Obama may appear to some to be arrogant. But i find that your angle on this post to be so off the mark, so deaf, so missing the 'big picture' that I'm compelled to tell you that I'm very, very, very disappointed with the timing of this perhaps meritorious story. I've come to expect much better analysis from you.
Sincerely,
Steve in Upstate NY.
Posted by: smikulen | March 18, 2008 4:45 PM
"triggering speculation"
that's good enough for me. If drindl says it, and it is sinister, it must be true.
I think she is getting battier by the minute. what was the triggering event? speculation is that her roadie husband is stepping out on the old bag.
probably can't stand the stench of fetid swamp.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:44 PM
HA HA HAHAHAH..
USMC boy doesn't want to admit that over the years, the US has indeed engaged in experimental and forced research on minority/ ethnic populations.
private mike doesn't even try to make a useful case otherwise, because he isn't capable, just falls back on his parrot/zouk/clown routine.
'http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/'
don't even know where you came up with that, clown. ain't
mine. pulled it out of your as* like everything else i guess.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:44 PM
"Reasonable interpretation?"
Perhaps, of *that* comment.
You can't cherry-pick. What about the other 2 I listed?
How about we play a game.
I paste a comment, and you give a lengthy, unbelievable explanation.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:44 PM
God Damn all this conservatives who are trying to destroy Obama. Their racism and hate that whites are voting for this man is clear to the eyes to see. The wrath of God will destroy this evil men and women. From O'reilly to Hannity and the empty skirts on fox news and radio.
Posted by: lumi21us | March 18, 2008 4:43 PM
Uh, aren't you suppose to be on vacation?
Posted by: kelly | March 18, 2008 4:42 PM
So, one of the Wright comments that's gotten a lot of play is the "GD America!" one that lots of people say is anti-American. Looking at a bit more of the statement, though, Wright is talking about drugs, prisons, illness, and suffering. I think he is coming at the Beatitudes ("Blessed are the merciful, they will obtain mercy. Blessed are the poor... etc.) from the opposite direction we often hear. I think he's trying to say that we only have to look at our society to see that we are not as merciful or kind as we should be, and that we have to strive for those things if we want to be blessed. He may not be expressing it very clearly, but I don't think he's saying, "Screw America." I think he's saying we have to earn God's favor and that we're not doing all that well with our efforts right now.
I am white and Catholic, but it sounds like pretty standard fire and brimstone stuff to me (ala Sodom and Gomorrah). Reasonable interpretation?
Posted by: illinois2 | March 18, 2008 4:40 PM
Proud: You are agreeing with me more and more about the hyprocy of this guy. The issue of Race is the only thing he has going for him, and from the beginning he has used this as an issue, and at the same time denied it. My quote "Accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing so you will know what you are doing." My! My! Amazing how accurate/correct I have been all this time.
Posted by: lylepink | March 18, 2008 4:39 PM
1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:39 PM
HA HA HA HA HA
drindl copy+pastes from the first google hit:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/
From this website:
"Agents of the world's elite have been long engaged in a war on the populace of Earth. Greed is the motivation for this war, a greed so pervasive that it encompasses the planet and all of the beings on it, but in recent times a philosophy has been used to justify that greed. It is the philosophy of mass control, that ultimately aims at dictating every aspect of human life - even remolding man's perception of reality and himself."
general dimwit doesn't even check a source.
She just copy+pastes, without thought.
And conservatives have no original thought?
HA HA HA HA HA
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:38 PM
didnt obama give a major speech on race in america today? this is the article you took a break to cover? wow. in any event if you decide to do some extra research into obama you might discover a lack of arrogance
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/17/0031/18073/736/478265
most of this "arrogance" seems like projection to me. people cant imagine that obama could actually be different so they look for stuff to call "gotcha". you know what, obama is smarter than me and you. he is a self made man who earned scholarships to the top schools in the country. he was a constitutional law professor. he is not arrogant and does not lord his accomplishments over everyone. if he is arrogant i cant imagine the baseline for humility.
Posted by: uclazy31 | March 18, 2008 4:38 PM
another clinton mystery:
Clinton Library Builder's CFO Disappears Amid Audit - CFO John Glasgow has been missing since Jan. 28, with his car found abandoned the next day, and family and police say it's impossible to tell whether he killed himself, was abducted or left to start a new life elsewhere.
when you cozy up to a clinton you get the Sopranos ending - death, jail or witness protection.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:37 PM
1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.
1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:36 PM
1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:35 PM
Dow Skyrockets - Up 420 Points Reacting to a key interest rate cut, the Dow Jones Industrials skyrocketed 420 points in late afternoon trading
It seems drindl's doom and gloom must wait for another day. It is statistically impossible to be wrong so many times in a row. Is this phenom similar to hillary's cattle trading? what are the odds that a single demented individual could be that outlandish and peurile?
I guess you would have to know our drindl to believe it.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:34 PM
1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:33 PM
Hey Chris,
When's the last time you know of a politician with the "arrogance" to discuss so thoroughly a speech on race in America??? And not only that, but to do so so thoughtfully and sincerely??? You're way out of tune here.
-jr
Posted by: squashrichardson | March 18, 2008 4:31 PM
'1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.'
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:30 PM
This man is supposed to be a "Christian" "Minister" -- yet he is full of hate, full of hype.
It would be bad enough for a bum to stand on a park bench and scream this crap.
It would be worse for your parents to do it.
And for an advisor for the leading Democrat candidate to do it is unbelievable.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:28 PM
drindl - "...confront you with the facts".
"Facts" from the OP/ED pages of the WaPo? While there may be some factual content, Dionne is an opinion writer who writes opinion pieces on the opinion pages of the post. Get your facts strait.
Posted by: dave | March 18, 2008 4:28 PM
Today, Vice President Cheney spoke to U.S. troops at the Balad Air Force Base in Iraq. During the speech, he defended the war in Iraq as part of the "long-term struggle" that "became urgent on the morning of September 11th, 2001." He also argued that the longer the war goes on, the more Iraqis "trust" and feel "better" about Americans:
In reality, the longer the United States stays in Iraq, the more frustrated Iraqis become. According to a BBC/ABC/ARD/NHK poll released yesterday, the number of Iraqis who don't have "very much confidence" in U.S. occupation forces is at 33 percent -- the highest point since 2003. Forty-six percent of Iraqis have no confidence at all, compared to just four percent with a "great deal of confidence."
Fifty-six percent of Iraqis also believe that the overall security situation in Iraq would be better if U.S. forces left entirely, compared to 29 percent who believe the situation would get worse. Additionally, 53 percent say that Bush's "surge" has "made overall security worse, not better."
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:27 PM
ALBANY, N.Y. - The state's new governor revealed Tuesday that he had affairs with several women, including a state employee. The confession came a day after he took over from former Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who was driven from office amid a prostitution scandal.
Another day, another Dem. the culture of perversion.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:26 PM
"I have been mulling over what an Obama foreign policy would look like for several months now."
dave, You're right to worry; he's been very light on substance, and his track record is consistent liberal.
Even the liberal journals have serious doubts about this guy:
"Obama's rhetoric is wonderful--but the specifics of the change he promises are fuzzier. In an entire speech about race in America, Obama never so much as mentioned affirmative action.
He laments the state of our disgraceful public school system--yet his own platform doesn't promise the kind of revolutionary (and expensive) overhaul that system requires. Making decisions about the allocation of resources is where things get really tricky, but Obama steered away from those questions."
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=cfa88bd9-5eba-4bfc-b775-62079514d9d9
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | March 18, 2008 4:26 PM
"USMC_Mike (or anyone who is willing give an honest, serious response):
Which of the Wright statements did you think were particularly offensive? Do you think other people could reasonably interpret them differently than you did?
Have you ever said things that other people misunderstood?
Do you think that you can accurately assess, based on a minute or so of tape, a lifetime of someone's words?
These are sincere questions... my take on them is below."
First, no doubt the Trinity church did some good for the community. Uplifted blacks, all that. (You have to begin by acknowledging this).
Second, you're right about sound bytes. They are no good most of the time.
However,
Never, even when taken out of context, have I said anything quite as shocking.
-The US government created AIDS to kill blacks
-The US infected black soldiers with syphilis
-Not God bless America, God d*** America
etc.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 4:25 PM
USMC_Mike (or anyone who is willing give an honest, serious response):
Which of the Wright statements did you think were particularly offensive? Do you think other people could reasonably interpret them differently than you did?
Have you ever said things that other people misunderstood?
Do you think that you can accurately assess, based on a minute or so of tape, a lifetime of someone's words?
These are sincere questions... my take on them is below.
Posted by: illinois2 | March 18, 2008 4:21 PM
So....basically you gave your opinion on another editor's opinion. Wow! You're a genius with original material. And HRC don't have an arrogant bone in her body; although, she is running her whole experience gab on the 1st lady tenure. How conceited is that? I'll take Barack's arrogance over you and HRC's ingenious commentaries any day. Her Iraq speech yesterday was laughable (cold, unbelievable and dry to say the least) and your opinion reeks of stupidity. When you don't have anything valuable or new to say...just don't say anything.
Posted by: rmw145 | March 18, 2008 4:21 PM
John McCain foreign policy: 'Iran is bring al-queda in, training them and sending them back to Iraq'
After Liberman whispers in his ear -- Uh, Iran is not training al-queda.'
The man is senile.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:20 PM
I find it fascinating that the left wing mind is so rigid that they not only can't they seem to have original thoughts, they even all use exactly the same language. You could write a dictionary of their kneejerk rhetoric.
Posted by: dave | March 18, 2008 4:18 PM
Seems to me the cons never really wanted to face Hillary--they were hoping for Obama all along, confident that they could incite enough racism to bring him down. And look what a job they've done.. James Wolcott speaks of it:
'Case in point, consider the backflip performed by William Kristol in his dirtbag birdbath on the Times op-ed page.
Here's how Bill Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard and Fox News' prized analyst, opened his first New York Times op-ed column in January: "Thank you, Senator Obama. You've defeated Senator Clinton in Iowa. It looks as if you're about to beat her in New Hampshire. There will be no Clinton Restoration. A nation turns its grateful eyes to you." Kristol went on in that column to cite Obama's "ability and charm" and likened the Clinton slayer to Bobby Kennedy in another, calling him "charismatic" twice in the same paragraph, as well as "a skeptic of simple ideological stances, a gifted politician and an anti-politician."
[snip]
Of course, once Kristol concluded that Obama had the nomination in the bag, he delivered an extraordinary hit piece of his own in the Times. On February 25, Kristol clobbered Obama for removing his lapel flag pin, saying that Obama was "impugning the sincerity or intelligence of those vulgar sorts who still choose" to wear one. He also derided Michelle Obama's statement that she was "really proud of my country" for the "first time" in her adult life. "It is fitting that the alternative to Obama will be John McCain," he said, rushing into the general election as precipitately as he rushed into Baghdad. "But could the American people, by November, decide that for all his impressive qualities, Obama tends too much toward the preening self-regard of Bill Clinton, the patronizing elitism of Al Gore and the haughty liberalism of John Kerry?"
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:15 PM
leichtman - "You won't agree with me for sure but his response was late and weak."
I actually agree with this totally. Months ago, when Obama was riding high and people were fainting over his soaring rhetoric and brilliant campaign, I said that Obama was eventually going to lose some of the luster once the press started to focus on him. That has finally happened. What is bothering me is that this is his normal strategy for dealing with various people with different beliefs. That is to talk with everyone but make your points and take issue with things you disagree with. Now I think we can agree that he failed in this instance of taking issue with the Pastor's warped views (or the fundraisers down in SC). So is the strategy itself wrong (should he have just left and dropped the Pastor) or did he just not completly execute it correctly (by staying but not taking issue with the Pastor)?
I have been mulling over what an Obama foreign policy would look like for several months now. Aside from the judgement questions this raises about him, it leaves me more worried about an Obama foreign policy.
Posted by: dave | March 18, 2008 4:15 PM
can't someone wipe the drool off his face?
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 04:03 PM
With writing like that, we can clearly see why you have so much free time. I think you have reached your ultimate level of creativity and originality (again) and can now consider retirement, after a job well done.
where are your fawning jackels today claudia? too much hate even for them it seems. We are all tired of you. It gets old fast. kinda like your candidates.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:13 PM
Barack Obama took the stage this morning to give what was billed as a "major speech on race." It was, of course, an attempt to rescue his campaign from the revelation that his so-called spiritual mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, espouses a virulently anti-American and antiwhite worldview called "black liberation theology."
Here is the part of the speech that bothered us most:
I can no more disown [Wright] than I can my white grandmother--a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
Our first thought was that it was pretty low of Obama to exploit his (still living) grandmother in this way. Is it really necessary for the whole world to know about her private expressions of prejudice? Doesn't simple decency dictate that a public figure treat embarrassing facts about loved ones with discretion?
Obama was trying to accomplish something very specific by dragging his "white grandmother" into this political mess. He was trying to diminish Wright's hateful theology by implying that it too is a private matter. Said Obama:
For the men and women of Rev. Wright's generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.
That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician's own failings.
And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews. The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Rev. Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning.
Note how Obama elides the difference between a comment at the "kitchen table" and a sermon delivered to a congregation of thousands and recorded on DVD.
Obama rightly faulted his spiritual mentor for using "incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation." But he tried to treat Wright's most outrageous comments as if they were aberrations rather than the most extreme expressions of an extreme ideology:
...Obama said this morning, "I have asserted a firm conviction--a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people--that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union."
But if he cannot speak out unequivocally against the public, organized bigotry of his spiritual mentor, how can he possibly live up to this promise?
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http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | March 18, 2008 4:12 PM
' that George bush personally saw to it just to stick it to drindl and her pack of yelping jackels. funny, ha ha.'
can't someone wipe the drool off his face?
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 4:03 PM
He is a liar and a fake.
Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | March 18, 2008 03:56 PM
Unfortunately, so is the other Dem. what is a good Dem to do?
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:03 PM
can't they seem to have original thoughts, they even all use exactly the same language.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 03:51 PM
you mean like cutting and pasting tome after tome directly from the leftist hate sites every day - Kos, Nation, moveon, huff?
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 4:00 PM
Reporting latest poll here in WV. Hillary leading Obama by a 2 to 1 margin, but this is only 500+ in the survey and was taken [I think] before the Pastor flap. Another thing is the Mi. and Fla. redo is vehemently opposed by the Obama campaign for the most obvious fact that Hillary got the most votes [WON] in these two critical states.
Posted by: lylepink | March 18, 2008 4:00 PM
Wall street F us.
They play heads I win Tails you lose. Then take too much money for the service when they win or lose.
The problem is WE HAVE TO BAIL THEM OUT. If we don't we get major depression like the 1800s. They know that and game the system.
This is not the Free Market - that is a big lie.
Posted by: mul | March 18, 2008 3:58 PM
kneejerk rhetoric.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 03:51 PM
you mean like the daily report that the sky is falling. that George bush personally saw to it just to stick it to drindl and her pack of yelping jackels. funny, ha ha.
Posted by: kingofzouk | March 18, 2008 3:57 PM
Barack directly challenged the black Baptist congregations in SC about their homophobia. I've never heard any other politician do that.
Posted by: wpost4112 | March 18, 2008 03:48 PM
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He should have fired them. He is so good at talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He didn't even own up this morning to having lied Friday that he never heard any racist comments when he was in the church. He is a liar and a fake.
Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | March 18, 2008 3:56 PM
The last few days its been all about Mr. Audacity and his hate spewing minister..Hillary is not getting balanced attention! ..She seems to be on the trail talking about real issues..
Posted by: laurenr1 | March 18, 2008 3:54 PM
wpost:
no intelligent american ever thought he was a muslim.
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There's a difference between intelligent and informed. Did you watch 60 minutes? Plenty folk think he's Muslim. Of course, Hillary doesn't..."as far as she knows."
Posted by: wpost4112 | March 18, 2008 3:53 PM
I don't know what happened to us.
But we are Putting UP HRC who has kick some VRWC a&& for years and years and years and years. Plus 7 years in the Senate.
Posted by: mul | March 18, 2008 3:53 PM
I find it fascinating that the right wing mind is so rigid that they not only can't they seem to have original thoughts, they even all use exactly the same language. You could write a dictionary of their kneejerk rhetoric.
Posted by: drindl | March 18, 2008 3:51 PM
"Obama seems a nice guy with decent rhetorical skills. But he's a FIRST TERM SENATOR!"
Someone commented that Hillary is an "adult".
I agree.
Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 18, 2008 3:48 PM
I didn't agree with him when he used that excuse with the bigoted homophobic preachers who he put in charge of his fundraisers down in SC and I don't buy it here. There is no room at the table for hate mongers and bigots.
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Barack directly challenged the black Baptist congregations in SC about their homophobia. I've never heard any other politician do that.
Posted by: wpost4112 | March 18, 2008 3:48 PM
LOL - dave. confront you with the facts of how your greedy overreaching corporate criminals have caused a fnancial meltdown in this country and you laughably call it 'class warfare.' That's what you ALWAYS say -- but it's
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Obama's efforts to connect to the Republican Party, specifically Bush, and Dick Chaney, of the Halliburton Company, dates back to the Presidents Grandfather, Prescott Bush, and indeed Chaney was once an executive officer of Halliburton.
The American military pounds Iraq with Artillary, bombs, and the like, destroying large sections of cities, and infra-structures, then Halliburton comes in to rebuild. Halliburton and Halliburton associated companies have raked in ten's of billions.
Obama is just like the BIG HALIBURTAN. Haliburton has contracted to build detention centers in the U.S. similiar to the one in Quantanammo Bay, Cuba. Halliburton does nothing to earn the Two Dollars for each meal an American Serviceman in Iraq eats.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
Halliburton was scheduled to take control of the Dubai Ports in The United Arab Emiirate. The deal was canceled when Bush was unable to affect the transfer of the American Ports.
Now we see what some might suspect as similiar financial escapading from the Democrats.
Two years ago, Iraq's Ministry of Electricity gave a $50 million contract to a start-up security company - Companion- owned by now-indicted businessman (TONY REZKO) Tony Rezko and a onetime Chicago cop, Daniel T. Frawley, to train Iraqi power-plant guards in the United States. An Iraqi leadership change left the deal in limbo. Now the company, Companion Security, is working to revive its contract.
Involved along with Antoin "Tony" Rezco, long time friend and neighbor of Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, and former cop Daniel T. Frawley, is Aiham Alsammarae. Alsammarae was accused of financial corruption by Iraqi authorities and jailed in Iraq last year before escaping and returning here.
LIKE FATHER LIKE SON --
Recently, Obama's campaign staff have been vetted by the IRS to disclose his connection to the criminal money generating underworld. Besides, his connections to the REZCO MAFIA types, his up-coming tax fraud charges -- Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and disclose Obama's MUSLIM Farrakhan mob connection to Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church are trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. Obama should stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke "GLORK" Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He is MAD!!! --
OBAM YOU'RE NO JFK --
"GLORK" Obama looks like Alfred E. Newman: "Tales Calculated To Drive You." He is a MUSLIM "Glork" He's MAD!!! Alfred E. Neuman is the fictional mascot of Mad. The face had drifted through American pictography for decades before being claimed by Mad editor Harvey Kurtzman after he spotted it on the bulletin board in the office of Ballantine Books editor Bernard Shir-Cliff, later a contributor to various magazines created by Kurtzman.
Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek.
Michelle Obama should be ashamed.
"GLORK" Michelle Obama should be ashamed of her separatist-racist connection to Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. If Michelle Obama new what her husband -- the Hope-A-Dope, Fonster Monster -- Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama did in Harlem, she would wash her wide-open, Hus-suey loving MUSILM mouth out, with twenty-four (24) mule-team double-cross X-boX-BorraX. He is a MUSLIM "Glork" It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He's MAD!!!
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
THE SPEECH --
The Apologia has arrived and once again the self-indicting, separatist-racist Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama, promises to heal the wounds of the world. The speech is the rude awakening of mass messianism of his campaign. Apologetically, Obama the MUSLIM double-cross X-boX-BorraX has an astonishingly empty two-prawn echelon explanation of his misjudgment.
In the first prawn: with regard to his connection to separatist-racist Rev. Wright; Obama summons voodoo and juju to express slavery as beginning and ending with the Rev. Wright.
In the second prawn: Obama's speech takes credit for Ashley's dream. A dream of unity Martin Luther King, Jr. borrowed from Ashley for his historic "I Have A Dream" speech. In Obama's speech, the connective bond Ashley, the elderly black man and Obama's grandmother share; represents Obama's self-indicting rise to the Harvard Yard. For Obama, the grand flag of language is the semi-fore of words, bestowed upon our nation by the messiah-alumni from Harvard. Obama's Swoon-Song Apologia to the nation represents a failed hymn -- a hymn that fails to heal the nation, repair the world, or make this time different than all the rest. Obama's speech is a brilliant failure.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/