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I WAS one of KO's biggest fans. That is, until he jumped the shark over his love affair with Obama. I was channel surfing last Friday night, so I caught several Obama interviews. As I wrote to Keith, he went all "Campbell Brown" when Obama appeared. BO was pressed to answer truthfully by Major Garrett, but Keith let him off with the party line that he never hear this stuff. He lied to Keith, which became clear after his speech. Yet instead of calling him on it, Keith continued the love fest. It is sickening.

Then he went on last night for two hours about the Obama passport breach, even going so far---with pimpin' David Shuster's help---to draw a "tenuous" (by his own admission) line to the Clintons in his breathless effort to gin up the story.
The anti-Clinton bias is unbelievable. I guess women are dirt, since Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary and even Barack's grandma are just punchlines in the MSNBC world.

Olbermann's considerable gifts and his ability to cut through the rhetoric and spin seem to be fading. Perhaps he should apply for Obama's PR flack position. He's getting to be as about as trustworthy as Ari Fleischer was.

I've been watching KO for a couple of years now. Although MSNBC has had a pro-Obama tilt, KO has on his show called out a couple of his colleagues on remarks they have made. If he thinks you're wrong, he's gonna tell ya.

For me I think his special commentary put together all of my issues with The Clintons and race.(Full Disclosure: I am an african am woman who was so excited at the beginning of the campaign. Who had her dream ticket of Clinton-Obama ready to punch in her head! Oh and had a huge crush on Bill...seriously!)

But looking back I remember reading an article ( if someone can remember who the b lack chairperson was for S. Carolina was that would be helpful) This person stated the the Democrats would suffer downticket if Obama was the Dem. nominee because: whites weren't ready to vote a black as pres. Hilary didn't really respond when asked about the remarks. (of course at this point she was up double digits on Obama so no concerns right?)
But it was kinda borderline for me.But she was given the benefit of the doubt by me and my hubby (full disclosure again: he's white) because it was just one time right?

But time and time again, the borderline thing has popped up. The tipping point for Af-Am...and others was Bill when he was leaving South Carolina. (and for him to say the media made the controversy up is just pouring salt on the wound) My jaw literally hit the floor when I saw the footage. (Because the media did take the "fairy tale " remark a bit out of context to me.)
There was a backlash and the retreated from those statements but then came Ohio and Texas. And the kitchen sink along with the negative campaigning. But the most damning moment for me wasn't race: It was when she basically said McCain was more qualified to deal with Iraq because he was in the Senate while Obama "he gave a speech". Absolutely true...but how do you elevate the other party's guy against your own primary opponent? Please explain that one again...along with the Hilary at the top of the ticket despite being behind and Obama being unqualified to be CIC. I didn't know the RNC had hired her as a one-woman 527.

Is Obama perfect?....nope, he should have dealt with the Pastor thing like a year ago and preempted this brouhaha. Edwards with his 400 haircuts...no. But when you have a sibling fight (which is this primary is increasing looking like) you don't snitch each other out to the other siblings or mom and Dad..why?....cause everyone loses that way. Right now, no matter who wins the sibling fight the party loses. And I don't know if the Democrats can still win in the December. So Keith's view for me (and hubby
) was validating what we and most of our friends and family have been saying since South Carolina. That race and gender shouldn't be the issue and once they become the issue it's gonna be hard to fix. Obama's speech may have helped but if the primary continues past June and into the convention.....too scary to contemplate!

I, too, used to watch Mr. Olbermann until he exposed his lack of journalistic integrity with commentary that, to paraphrase him, arose out his anger at things said or done by others.

I agree with those who point out tha Sen. Obama will not disown Rev. Wright as he wouldn't any other member of his family--one might remember that he, of course, did not disown his wife for her lifelong lack of pride in the United States and its government.

I was struck by his proclamation of the slave and slave owner DNA of his wife that "they passed on to his two precious daughters." He did not life in the South of the 1940's, '50's, '60's or '70's and in my view is so far removed from understanding the historic plight of African-Americans that his attempts to "bridge the racial gap in this country" only pretends to relive what Americans have worked, and continue to work, to overcome.

He is cynical, arrogan, and without the sincere compassion required of the John Lewises, Andrew Youngs, or Martin Luther Kings who began and continue to lead the struggle.

Why the citizens of this country cannot see someone using the issue as a wedge more effectively than Republicans is beyond me. He is "George Bush warmed over" and will, if he continues on his current course, set race relations back 20 years.

Messers. Olbermann and Matthews should take at look at their coverage and commentary. They pretend revolutionary outrage and democratic wisdom without either. That's why I am now reduced to occasionally watching CNN where they simply spend most of their time selling CNN.

He says his words are not meant to be an "endorsement of obama"....IS HE KIDDING?? Does he honestly think he comes across as objective and free of bias?? What joke! Of course he and the most of MSNBC are in the "tank for obama"!!! That includes his guests like howard fineman. why does he think SNL came up with that skit? To use incredulous language like you do, keith....BECAUSE YOU'RE BIASED TOWARDS OBAMA AND CANNOT HIDE YOUR DISDAIN FOR HILLARY!! YOU MORON! I no longer watch keith or chris matthews and have instead watch fox so I can get a more rational analysis of both hillary and obama. I never thought I would do that! At least now we have david gregory, even though he has air america obama fawners, also...at least he does include some guests that can talk about hillary without mostly negative commentary. I'm not surprised either by the soft balls he threw at obama with NONE of the outrage he reserves for hillary (and of course, bush).

Kieth O. , Well what do you have to say about Obama's justification of Rev. Wright's anti-American and Anti-Semitic remarks. He lies to the American people , he has heard such hateful rhetoric for the pulpit and did nothing about it. Talked down about his white grandmother, but praised and excuse Rev. Wright. They say , one is judge by the company one keeps, could be true on this occasion. Between his friendship with Rezko and Rev. Wright, Obama's hasn't made good choices.

i wonder how many of the very similiar and repetitive, "i used to watch KO, but i don't now" cause he dissed Hillary, posts were actually written by Hillary staffers? one can always tell when her campaign has decided on a 'theme' or specific spin.

one can identify it easily, cause they spout those same couple lines verbatim over and over. guess they nicked that tactic from the bushies.

barack may talk about change...but as a way to convey the way he wants to address the issues.

the clinton campaign just sputters "rezko!"... "rev. wright!".... "michigan and florida!" ad infinitum.

Hopefully KO will condemn this guy who also agreed with Ferraro:

If he were white ... he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?

Senator Barrack Obama June 26, 2005
http://obama.senate.gov/news/050626-when_it_comes_to_race_obama_ma/

Is the media calling to call out Obama for his fake outrage over Ferraro when he basically said the same thing about himself? Somehow I doubt we will see a KO special comment on this.

Olbermann is a bag of hot air...the most over rated of the "kids in the back seat." The pro Obama bias is so obvious with Olbermann and Chris Mathews. Discouraging. When I'm looking for fair political analysis, I'm not looking to see who can pander the most. The worst thing NBC ever did was to pair them for election coverage. I know which network I WON'T be watching for convention coverage.

Olbermann is a bag of hot air...the most over rated of the "kids in the back seat." The pro Obama bias is so obvious with Olbermann and Chris Mathews. Discouraging. When I'm looking for fair political analysis, I'm not looking to see who can pander the most. The worst thing NBC ever did was to pair them for election coverage. I know which network I WON'T be watching for convention coverage.

Barack Obama is a liar

To all
Obama speech ,,,, Not sure if you caught Not only did Obama,,, Refuses to denounce him,, but even More,, He say in his own words,,,
Barack Obama was in church when Jeremiah Wright,, was spewing Anti-American, Racist ism ,,,, Those were his own words,,, barack was there
After going on keith Oberman ,Show obama said he would denounce that if he heard that language he would leave and not tolerate it , and denounce it
After he went on MSNBC,, he went on FOX CNN ABC< all the news station saying he was never there,,, in his church when he said these things,,
But Now today during his speech,,He states flat out Say's HE was there,,, Last week Barack Obama Lied,, went on all the news stations, and Lied,,
But your not reporting that,,,, You can rest assure,,, cnn ,,, Fox , ABC,,, Msnbc,, are getting more on this ,,, they will be reporting on this, and we will see
If you chose to report, Obama Lying on tv,,, If this was Hilary clinton lying and caught lying on all the new station,,, you can be sure,, you would talk about it every hour
people will be on your station debating this,,,, people analysing , if it is hilary clinton but it was not her it was Barack Obama, ,, it bad enought He lied, about being in church
With Jeremiah Write, when he said these anti american ,,,,,and still refuse to denounce him...all the news agency want to do is speak on how good his speech was,
Not that he lied,,, Last week on all the news agency ,, He was never there today in how own speech He say I was there,,,,should play all Obama videos from last week
stating he was not there,,, or heard any of the anti-american Jeremiah Write, said in his church then play his speech today saying he was there and he did hear him in church and refuse to denounce Jeremiah Wright,,,

For the first time since I've tuned in, KO delivered a fair and balanced assessment of how the Pastor Wright situation has damaging potential for Obama. I was impressed.

I was more impressed by Bill Clinton's interview with Greta Van S. which featured the current work underway in New Orleans and other Global Initiative work, gathering ideas from young techies and applying them to help green up America and provide efficient housing, energy and University experience for our youth. It's awesome seeing Bill's creative economics at work again and in action, demonstrating they really are all about solutions. He talked about English Billionaire
what's-his-name?, Virgin Air?, who has donated and made a commitment to develop alternative fuel for jets for which none has yet been found.

So glad to hear that so many other people have stopped watching KO.

Chris, you should jump off that burning ship before it sinks.

The guy along with the rest of MSNBC have completely blown it. I don't think it matters whether Senator Obama is nominated or elected, there is no way I ever go back to watching these guys again.

Religion and Politics should NEVER mix. That was true with hate talk from Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, and Wright, etc. They should stay in their pulpits, and shut up about important political issues. Or, all preachers/ministers and their churches, should have their tax exempt status taken away, so the American tax payer can stop subsidizing them.

Olbermann is a hack. Anyone who puts any stock in what he has to say is just as mindless as the legions of O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Hannity fans.

Olbermann and the right winger talkers represent much of what is wrong with the American news media of today. Instead of examining facts and issues in an in-depth and unbiased way, that spout polemic rhetoric that divides our country and distracts their followers from the real problems and the important issues.

Do yourselves a favor, save the money that is wasted on cable television and watch some real news for free on PBS,(The News Hour with Jim Lehrer, anyone?)

P.S. Olbermann also annoys the piss out of me on Football Night in America...

For the posters here who reference the comments of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson who said that 9/11 happened to America because we have become the new Soddom and Ghamorrah, that is, we brought 9/11 down on ourselves, what happened to them?

They were ridiculed, they lost their credibility to speak to national issues, as once they did because of their ridiculous statements coming from the Right. They in effect said, that because American has embraced Left wing ideology, God sent his punishment on 9/11.

What did Wright say: Because America has espoused Right wing ideology, God sent his punishment on 9/11.

One version is as ignorant as the other and both sets of preachers, the ones on the Right and on the Left ought to be sent to the Exits for spewing such poison.

If a Presidential candidate signed on to the Pat Robertson version of God's wrath, what chance would he have to win national office? Not much I'd say.

We need to get all of these preachers out of the politic business. Its bad for politics and worse for religion. Its why the wise founders put into the First Amendment that the state should not support any religion, a separation.

If you want to comingle church and state, go to Iran. That is the perfect example of what government looks like when the Supreme Leader is the one who claims to talk to God on a regular basis.

Well I watched Olbermann last night just to see if any of this has sunk in yet. He had his usual segment called 'Worst Person of the Day' and went over some poor schmuk.

Did he ever put Rev. Jeremiah Wright into his "Worst Person" catagory??

The MSNBC boys all seem hunkered down, hoping upon hope that Obama can pull their chestnuts out of the fire today in Philadephia.

Afterall, they have all jumped on this guy's bandwagon placing their credibility into the hands of a political candidate whom they all hardly knew.

It is the first rule of journalism -- to maintain one's objectivity. They all lost it and in losing it, they all now have to find some way to come crawling back in off of that limb to which they have all gotten off on.

What can Obama say today -- Condemn the message but not the messenger. Try to explain that this is what America looks like to Black folks in the Black experience.

How would Obama know. He was born in Hawaii, raised in Kenya and Indonesia, brought back to Hawaii and then found himself in Chicago somehow, the record is not clear and at 27 years of age did not have any sort of idea about religion until he met up with Jeremiah Wright and started to buy into Wright's ideas about Christianity.

Having attended Black church services many times in the south, not in Chicago, I can tell you that there is no such thing as any sort of hatred toward anyone that comes from the Black pulpits. The African Americans are the most religious people that one encounters in the South, it is the source of much of their ideals of social justice and the heart of the progressive movement in the South. They hate no one, they are trying mightily to build each other up, but would never do so by tearing anyone else down.

If Obama had been a part of the Black experience in the United States during his formative years, he would not have this skewed idea that all of Black America is as angry and put out as his Chicago congregation.

As has been said, Rev. Wright has every right to preach the Gospel as he sees fit and the good people of that church have every right to attend and believe as they see fit, this is America and America is big enough to include and embrace all people, even those who hate her.

But we are not talking here about the freedom to worship or freedom of speech. That is not the issue. The issue is whether someone from that world view and perspective can or should become elected President of the United States.

His platform has been that he bears the unique ability to bridge gaps to bring different people together and to end divisions in the country. His membership in this church has certainly exposed him and educated him to people with a world view that white people are oppressors and are evil and in the business of keeping other racial groups repressed.

But the question is, what has Obama done in that church community to reconcile it to the larger White and Black communities that do not hold that world view or perspective. Obama has had 20 years to have some sort of positive unifying impact on his church community.

What has he done other than attend the church and give it money and remain, as far as we know, uncritical of Rev. Wright and his version of the Gospel?

If the point of view expressed by Wright is a legitimate statement of the Black experience, why should Obama distance himself from it? Is Obama not a product of the Black experience in America? What does that say about Obama that he would turn his back on his fellow parishioners for the past 20 years for the sake of feeding his ambition to become President of the United States? That he would castigate their preacher in the same tones as Rush Limbaugh does?

Obama is in an impossible spot. If he condemns the preacher, then Obama turns his back on who he is. If Obama justifies his preacher, then he stands against the vast majority of Americans Black and White and how can he do so and win election to the Presidency.

I don't think there is enough snake oil that you can put even on his silver tongue to get him out of this spot.

There are too many editorialists and too few reporters in the media. The truth is, the whole issue of racism is exacerbated by the candidates themselves, their parties, and the media who scrutinize race, religion, gender and ethnicity constantly in polling that divides the electorate along these lines and indeed does. Why is it racist if someone says it but not racist when pollsters ask it?
The statements Geraldine Ferraro made were no more racist than the "demographics" referred to in practically every campaign analysis. She was just too blunt. But blunt beats what that pastor Wright was spewing any day. And so I am tired of everyone yelling race and racist. The pollsters should stop pidgeonholing the voters. Obama should stop pretending his race has nothing to do with his present position and that he's not using it as a cudgel. And the people should look at the merits of the candidates, not their color, not their spouses, not their gender. The only legitimate "category" that one could use in choosing the President is religion -and that because his or her beliefs can fairly be expected to influence how the person thinks and reacts.

If any one word can describe Keith Olberman, it is "disingenuous." The man seems constitutionally incapable of a sound argument. In view of the pulpit he has been given, one can only believe that his arguments, veritable showcases of every species of logical fallacy known to man, are deliberately crafted to mislead and misguide. Of course, the necessary want of discretion that alone allows progressive thought to persist explains why Mr. Olberman's audience hasn't noticed yet that the man has no clothes.

Rank stupidity is the first predicate of the socialist progressive. Mr. Olberman is the very genius of the type.

KO IS a fanatic! and he's been apologizing for Barack since day one.
Sorry, but Ferraro's comment was true - Olbermann should move beyond his white guilt and educate himself - read Shelby Steele's book on Obama - the 'bargainer'. I no longer watch KO and have given his book to Good Will. His zeal only comes from a poisonous white guilt and the rage fueled by that defensiveness drips from each melodramatic phrase.
Rather than a rational spokesman, he has become O'Reilly or Limbaugh - Soap box standing and irrational - he's over for me and many.

Like so many who have commented, I used to watch Keith Olbermann all the time. His coverage of the Bush administration and all related issues was excellent and he had interesting guests like John Dean among others. It was one of my favorite shows.

Since KO turned into a spokesman for Obama in the last few months, I and many have tuned out. I don't watch KO any more and agree that MSNBC in general has a real issue with fairness and balance when it comes to the democratic candidates. The MSNBC team for the most part are a bunch of loud mouth fraternity boys. One the other hand, where's the scrutiny of John McCain. Oh, he's one of the boys so he too gets special handling.

Why is it ok for Barak to question Hillary's "judgement" and equate it to McCain and Bush- for the last year and 3 months, but when she says that 2 of the candidates are experienced- everyone jumps on her and says she is endorsing a republican. Isn't this a similar attack?

Why is it that when Ferraro points out that she (as the first woman but a candidate with little experience) was destroyed by the media, while he (as the first AA candidate with a chance) has gotten a pass on similar experience, credentials and scandals- it is called racist on behalf of the Clintons (and she is only an associate of theirs)- While it is OK for Rev. Wright to say directly racially charged things (AIDS/Crack invented by US govt., Clintons racist, etc.)when in his autobiography Obama calls reverand Wright inspirational and says that he helped him find his direction, when he has had an 18 year relationship with the guy, when he has donated over 10000 to the organization and when he is involved in every aspect of Obama's family life- clearly Barak knew the things Wright had said- he said them many times over a course of years, it's not like they were in some California based newspaper interview...

Why is it that there are constant attacks on her for being so ambitious and political when he is so much more ambitious and political? Is it just the rhetoric?

I am a lifelong leftist and I am disappointed in liberals for backing a guy whose policies are actually to the right of hers. Why weren't the liberals behind Edwards whose policies matched liberal ideology the best? Currently I am disgusted with the party- whomever is the candidate has my vote and efforts this time but I am done with the Dems.
Leon

I think the major problem with Hillary's campaign is this: we all know her so-called "experience" is bull. She's been an elected legislator for a shorter a period of time than Obama. She's basically running on her husband's name.

Okay, fine. The thing is, since she's a former first lady, she has to prove doubly that she's up for the job. That means distancing herself from Bill and proving she can win the election without him stumping for her.

There was a similar problem with Mitt Romney. Mitt's rich. If he really wanted to prove he had what it takes to be president, he would have capped his spending to at least match the next highest spender in the GOP. Instead he spent crazily and still lost to John McCain. His "economic expertise" he pushed got discredited; he was shown to have made a bad investment in Iowa, losing to Mike Huckabee. As Obama said, he didn't get much on his return.

Hillary has to prove she's not just the former first lady, that she's not running on her husband's name. To do this, she has to keep Bill away from the press. Otherwise, she's just a fake feminist, preaching empowerment but acting on dependency. She needs to show real independence and make us believe she would have been in the running even without her husband's success to back her. So far, she hasn't done this. That's a problem.

I would prefer that Keith would not rant in a manner that should be reserved for Fox. However, it may have been the only way to get the attention of the Clinton campaign, which seems to have decided that nothing is out of bounds in the campaign.

Remember when a renown professor apologized for calling Hillary a 'monster'. But that wasn't good enough for Hillary. Sadly, Hillary has become a monster in her willingness to do anything to win a primary campaign that she has already lost.

Remember when the press repeatedly told us that Democrats where happy with their list of candidates and would willingly support any of them in the general election. It was the Republicans that did not like any of their choices.

IMHO Keith's anger at the Clinton campaign was because he thought her willingness to do anything to win the nomination would result in too many Democrats not enthusiastically supporting the Democratic candidate in the general election.

After the last few weeks, I can only wonder which president she is married to.

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I have been listening to all the networks and reading all the comments by the reporters and the various blogs just to see if finally they would be fair and balanced as they claim to be, I find that the Washington Post is the most fair of all if you can do a pole, I want the bloggers to again I say read and learn, this is a transcript of a comment made was after 9/11 by Rev. Jerry Faldwell and Pat Robertson, and as I am not condoning any of it, you have not heard any comments on this, why? because they are from the moral majority of the Republicans, was it okay for Trent Lott to state that the United States would have been better off if then-segregationist candidate Strom Thurmond had won the presidency, is anyone questioning McCain, or qestioning Bill Clinton's mentor J. William Fulbright of 30 yrs who was a segregationist and voted against the civil rights act.

Now is this fair and balanced, Barak Obama is one of the best candidates and person that I have seen in my lifetime, has denounced many times what his pastor stated, and as he has stated judge him on his own merits, is it that the Republicans and the Billary team feel so threatened that he will win and they have searched and searched and not want to do a character assassination of Barak Obama, the politics of the Old and not the new, I still believe that most in this country are not so narrow minded.

Here is the transcript:

These words were spoken by Jerry Falwell on September 13, 2001, as a guest on Pat Robertson's The 700 Club. The transcript:

JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected
us so wonderfully these 225 years.

And since 1812, this is the first
time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results.
And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld,
the Secretary of Defense, said
yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare
available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats
-- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if,
in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow
the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the
antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to
the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But,
throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system,
throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked.

And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the
finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system.

JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU and all the
Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in
prayer and sang "God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged".

In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God. ~~~
PAT ROBERTSON: Amen

These comments were made on September 13, 2001, on national television for public consumption. The White House's response: "[Bush] does not share those views, and believes that those remarks are inappropriate." It was good enough for America. Whatever we think of George W. Bush, we never supposed that he agreed with every last thing that the clergymen who support him said. (but for Barak Obama it appears that he is held to a higher standard, I would say if it was okay that Bush said it was inappropriate then Obama saying that he denounces the statements THAT SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH).

Then there's Rev. John Hagee, who said:

Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist. [God's Profits: Faith, Fraud and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, Sarah Posner]

And...

All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that. [NPR Fresh Air, 9/18/06]

John McCain's response:

Well I think it's important to note that pastor John Hagee who has supported and endorsed my candidacy supports what I stand for and believe in. When he endorses me, it does not mean that I embrace everything that he stands for and believes. And I am very proud of the Pastor John Hagee's spiritual leadership to thousands of people and I am proud of his commitment to the independence and the freedom of the state of Israel. That does not mean that

I support or endorse or agree with some of the things that Pastor John Hagee might have said or positions that he may have taken on other issues. I don't have to agree with everyone who endorses my candidacy. They are supporting my candidacy. I am not endorsing some of their positions. [McCain Media Availability, 2/29/08]

Now tell me is this fair and balanced

At one time I enjoyed olbermann-he was a voice for change--now he is a public relations director for obama and has fawned over his black candidate,afraid to treat him like Clinton because the ultra left like olbermann are afraid they'll be called racist--sad but true,olbermann is a fake and a coward-his attack on Clinton showed that--go back to sports for the good of our party--we don't need you anymore!!!

If KO really wanted John McCain for the next President he couldn't do a better job. I have never voted for a Republican for President, but this angry spewing by KO may convince me. This man was clearly losing it He is also dishonest. Why not have the guts to come out and say he supports Obama. If this anger keeps up the Republicans will lose. Either Clinton's or Obama's supporter will stay home. Republicans have to love this guy.

I thought I was a democrat because democrats were so much different than republicans!
After reading the narrow minded bigoted posts here, I can't see the difference in the two major parties!
The inaction and helplessness of the newly elected democrat congress should have convinced me long ago that the NO SPINE democrats are not up to the job of "turning our country around" as they always say at election time!
I am not going to waste my vote!... I am voting GREEN!

Keith needs to man up and come right out and say he endorses Obama. His softball questions to Obama regarding Rev. Wright and his hate filled speeches deserves his "Worst Person in the World" award. Keith lost all credibility to me weeks ago and I turned his show off and won't be watching again. Unfortunately, Keith has turned into the Bill O'Reilly of MSNBC.

Keith still pretending that he is unbiased in the Democratic race??? He drug himself in Friday night, apparently sick, to soft-ball interview Obama on his "spiritual advisor". In spite of Olbermann's love for Obama and soft, leading questions, the truth continues to come out. Used to watch Olbermann and Matthews regularly, but I really cannot anymore. Watching hours of essentially political advertising for Obama and the anti-female bias, in general, is just too much! I vote Keith Olbermann the Worst Person in the Woooorrrllldddddd!!!!!

This weekend I reviewed Olbermann's comments about the Ferraro debacle as well as the Rev Wright fallout. Olbermann isn't endorsing Obama? Please. He makes it a point to berate Clinton over comments made by Ferraro, yet gives Obama a softball interview in response to his 20 year pastor's hateful and divisive remarks. C'mon Keith...if you endore Obama, fine. At least be honest about it. Your attempt to disguise your preference is so transparent. That's why I don't watch you anymore. I caught your ridiculous "Special Comment" on YouTube and read the transcript of your coddling interview with Obama.

Obama may not win Pennsylvania, but for the poster(s) who continue to believe that the Clinton's did so and so for the black community, time for a reality check. What they did was institute policies that helped American people (not only black). It was the Clinton's policies who sent more black non-violent men to jail than anyone. The consequences have been devastating to our communities. Some people progressed and others didn't. I am 46 and I owe Geraldine nor Hillary nothing, absolutely nothing! This is the last time that I will be registered as a Democrat regardless of what happens. The Democratic Party just likes to get our votes and do nothing for their most loyal constituents. They should be feeling the heat right about now, because if Hillary steals this election or continues to inject race into the race, not only will black people stay home, so will people who are sick and tired of being taken for granted. She will lose anyway. I would not be surprised if John McCain winds up picking up a bigger percentage of the black vote than GW. Yeah, it is interesting! I believe Obama will pick up enough delegates in PA to keep her coming up with ways in which to win the nomination. Too bad we don't have any statesmen in the Democratic party to stand up to the Clintons!

Olberman had a strong liberal following, his clips were often You Tubed on some of my blogs. His ratings were not that good and he will suffer from his hits on Clinton. I'll never watch or listen to what he says again.

I don't usually watch Olberman. Does he have a big viewership Does it really matter what he says? How much influence has he? He makes a very unfavorable impression on me.

PatrickNYC1 - Ha.

merch61- you should go and listen to the Clinton's pastor. They attend the Methodist Foundry Church in Washington DC and you could find no pastor more in favor of diversity and fairness. He has even begun to perform committment services for gay couples. So go get some of his remarks and judge the Clinton's by them, I think they would be proud to stand by him any day of the week.

The issue of Olbermann is that he is just as much of a blowhard on the left as Limbaugh or any of the people on the right. The fact that our media today is made up of so many of these blowhards is a sad state of affairs. We have Olbermann, Matthews, Russert and the gang at Fox and CNN all telling us what we should be thinking and why. Too much time on their hands - too much airtime to fill- to much bs comes from all of them. It is a sad state of affairs for the nation and the public has to sift through all the crap to get at any real facts.

Olbermann on Clinton and Ferraro was rediculous. Farraro was 100% accurate in what she said only I think she said it wrong. And by the way she didn't say it to a public meeting or a Hillary rally but a paid speech on politics today.

What she should have said was that race and gender do make a difference in politics today. Obama himself said upon his election to the Senate in 2004 that he wouldn't run for President because he wasn't ready. That is on tape. But he did and his eloguence has gotten him to be where he is along with his being Black.

His huge pluralities in the Black vote wouldn't be there if he was just an eloquent white guy. But then Hillary wouldn't have her higher numbers among women if she wasn't one. But Hillary would have run and it was predicted based on her experience and then election and reelection to the Senate.

Ferraro didn't remind people that Obama made the 2004 speech at the Kerry convention because they were looking for a strong Black voice. So what? That is fine and moves our nation forward. But why would we pretend it is not the case.

I have lost jobs that went to a Black candidate or to a woman. That is part of life today and I actually think it is important to give those who have not had a fair chance before a chance now.

But Ferraro's remarks in essense were totally on target and correct- it was her way of phrasing them that wasn't politcally correct.

On the other hand Olbermann can be as much of a blowhard as he wants to and he gets the last word as he is the media.

Obama is a liar.

Agent of change?

What a joke.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | March 17, 2008 02:29 PM
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When you have die hard dems agreeing with you mike you know he's toast.

bryant_flier2006

Good point.

How many days has it been since he promised to come on? 300+?

Obama is a liar.

Agent of change?

What a joke.

I would be cautious about just how much influence Olbermann has. I'm curious as to what the female demographics for the show are. I used to be a fan but had to stop watching when he became so vitriolic about Clinton. Many of my friends (Clinton and Obama supporters alike) can't watch Olbermann or MSNBC anymore. And we're progressives. It borders on the misogynistic with its anti-Clinton rhetoric. Almost clown-like at this point.

When will Obama grow the grapefruits to sit down with Fox News Sunday, as he promised he would? His campaign is based on fast sound bites & lies that, perhaps even Obama himself, actually believes. He's a dilussional liberal.

This article ends with a vieled threat that the Clinton campaign should dismiss Olbermann at their own peril? Ha! Olbermann incenses his female viewers at his own peril. Just ask Chris Matthews.

Posted by: brigittepj | March 17, 2008 02:13 PM
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His male ex-fans as well. What a douche.

Until recently, I was a huge fan of Keith Olbermann and looked forward to watching him every evening. During the past few months, his blantant sexism and downright bias against Clinton has left me no longer able to watch him without cringing.

His pompous rant against Geraldine Ferraro was entirely off the mark. She told the truth and if Keith believes that a white man or any woman who announced their candidacy for president after spending one year in the US Senate would still be in the race, he's a complete moron.

This article ends with a vieled threat that the Clinton campaign should dismiss Olbermann at their own peril? Ha! Olbermann incenses his female viewers at his own peril. Just ask Chris Matthews.

That's the point Spectator.

You don't need a "black caucus" to be inclusive.

In fact, having a "black caucus" IS racist.

We shouldn't be recruiting members of congress because they are black. Nor should we hire, fire, promote, or demote for the same reason.

Only Democrats make issues into racial issues. Like when a black man runs for President.

Clintonista's need to come to reality. You people are as divisive as HIllary is. You need to look at the good interest of the party, and how we can get a democrat in the White House.

Keith Olberman has done more for the news/media industry than any of these right wing commedians. Rush Limbaugh is crazy, and Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reily are from another planet. Keith is a breath of fresh air which is hard to find on the tv. Keith matched with Chris Mathews are the best one two punch out there. Don't you people see the chain of events that has taken place to direct rational minded people like Chris and Keith to not support Hillary? Has Hillary done anything that will benefit the Democrat party in the general election in November? This is a historic race, and both candidates need to be very careful not to point out these differences. These differences have begun to consume the race after events such as Geraldine Ferraro's comments. Another example, Ohio demographics for voting, race played a factor to these voters 28% i think. Wisconsin race played a factor 11%. When these differences are pointed out whether it be race, or gender than voters focus on the wrong reasons not to vote for a candidate instead of the right reasons to vote for a candidate. Hillary needs to drop out of the race and save the Democratic Party before it's too late. The Democratic Party will not achieve victory in November with Billary as the nominee.

Sorry, but Olbermann is a joke. And he's creepy too.

"Myth: Only Republicans are racist.

Fact: Democrats are the true racists.

Imagine, a black man challenging a Clinton!

The Audacity!

Not only has race politics torn the Democrat party apart,"

Mike: Can you tell us when the Republican Congressional Black Caucus will be holding its next meeting? Thanks.

Myth: Only Republicans are racist.

Fact: Democrats are the true racists.

Imagine, a black man challenging a Clinton!

The Audacity!

Not only has race politics torn the Democrat party apart,

But gender politics has as well!

The American people can see how racist these people are.

We're the party for minorities. We want affirmative action, welfare, and hand-outs. We want your votes.

But we don't want you to run for office.

Especially against a Clinton.

The exploitation of minorities for votes and power is both shameless and morally repugnant.

The Democrat party is bankrupt. At this point, neither can beat John McCain (who is on his 8th visit to Iraq.)

So long, Hillary. See you in 4 years, Hussein Obama. Maybe by then the Democrat party will be purged of their closet (and open) racists.

Unlikely.

Chris, I know this will disappoint you and the Washington Post, but the comments reveal 90% opposed to Olberman's hysterical rant and 10% in favor.

I used to watch Olbermann every night. It was a relief to know that someone was paying close attention to the mischief in the White House. However, I haven't been able watch lately as there seems to be an palpable undercurrent of (yes) sexism. On Keith's part, and almost every other male journalist. They seem to be amazed that they still have to cover this woman's (the nerve!) campaign. It has been very disappointing to see such a boy's club mentality clearly on view. I have started watching Dan Abrams instead. Dan is on after Keith. He is very smart and seems to be the only person covering both sides of the Democratic campaign. Thank you Dan Abrams!

Olberman's claim that he was somehow reluctant to rant and rage is certainly belied by his vehement, near hysterical rhetoric. It is Olberman who has done the greatest harm to the Democratic party and its chances for the presidency in Nov. There are people who listen to you and believe...who have not read, heard, or understood the facts of the case. YOU, Olberman, give them their opinions, just as Limbaugh gives the right their opinions. Reluctant to rant and rage?! You looked forward to it. When you decide to endorse a candidate, will we be surprised if it is Obama?

Obama's whiney wife Michelle says that her husband's election as president would be the first reason to have "pride" in America, and complains that this country is "downright mean" and that she's having difficulty finding money for their daughters' piano lessons and summer camp.

Poor Michelle and Barack. Between the two of them, there's enough ivy-league and prep-school education for a small village.

Between them, Mr. and Mrs. Obama earn $480,000 a year (not including book royalties from The Audacity of Hype), but they're whining about how tough they have it to couples (of all ethnicities) who earn 48 grand -- or less.

Yes, we can! But not on a lousy half-million bucks a year.

Chris, you are the major reason I read the Washington Post.

I have to disagree with your opinion of Olberman. His ranting is despicable. He is not a balanced reporter at all. When he rants, I turn off the sound until it is over.

I can give him credit for having Obama explain his ties to Wright. What he did NOT do was question how a smart man such as Obama can be in church for 20 years and NEVER hear the pastor utter any of the remarks that have caused such a furor.

He needs to tone it down or get off the air.

another one about to go down:

'SINGAPORE (AP) - Shares of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. plunged in premarket trading Monday after a news report that Southeast Asia's largest bank instructed traders in an e-mail not to do business with the bank.'

and more good news from Iraq:

KERBALA, Iraq (Reuters) - A female suicide bomber killed 25 people and wounded 16 in an attack in the holy Shi'ite city of Kerbala in southern Iraq, police and health officials said on Monday.

The attack took place in a cafe in the centre of the city close to Shi'ite shrines, among the holiest sites in Shi'ite Islam, police said. Provincial governor Aqeel Khazali confirmed that a woman had carried out the bombing but had no further details.

I love Keith Olberman--he's the most talented broadcaster on TV these days. He is opinionated, but good for him. He's had the guts to speak the truth about this dreadful, deceitful Administration and God bless him for that! Even though I still will vote for Hillary if she's our nominee, I think her campaign has not served her well and I think Obama will likely emerge as our candidate.

Dear Chris and Commenters, Thank you for this enlightening exchange; I thought I was the only one who is deep in depression over the betrayal by Olberman. Many of the commenters in this discussion are the balanced people who should be conducting the coverage of this campaign. It is official. Olberman is Limbaugh. He isn't a counterpart; that would be fine. But he is Limbaugh.

Why is life so unfair?

If one were to collate the reverend's views on what his congregation should think of the United States, and, further, his writs against Americans as "selfish, self-centered egotists who are arrogant and ignorant" with Michelle Obama's own astounding statements that hitherto she had no pride in the United States, and considered America "just downright mean," and Americans "guided by fear" and (in the words of the New Yorker profiler) who summed up her views as 'we're a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents' the echoes are eerie.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmE1M2U2NmQ3NzFlNDE1MmNlZDZkYjBjZjhiY2ZiYjQ=

I think his campaign has seriously underestimated the effect of the Wright tapes on the average American voter.

Despite the serial profession of a new politics, there is something Nixonian about Obama's recent disclaimers over his racist pastor's diatribes. At first he tried to blame the messenger:

"Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor."

The problem is not cherries, Senator, but an entire orchard.

Nice try to change the subject, proudt2bdumb. but it doesn't work.

Your party is corrupt to the core. Vince foster? Oh my god -- that old joke? You are more pathetic than i thought posisble. Is there any propaganda you fools won't fall for?

"Republicans so greedy they even steal from themselves"

Dems only steal from the taxpayers, which gives them the moral superiority argument, I uess.

Having $90,000 in the freezer is ok if you're a lib. And paying $80,000 for prostitutes is ok if you're a lib.

Don't challenge the progressive agenda, or you'll get end up shooting yourself in the back of the head or thrown under the bus. Just ask Vince Foster or Joe Lieberman.

Back in 2000, John W. McCain had an unintended moment of honesty and said:

'They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country.

Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.'

...and ever since, McCain has shamelessly tried to disassociate himself from his own words, while the media helpfully looks the other way. He "mended fences" with Jerry Falwell, abandoned his own religion, now pretending to be a Baptist, and he "proudly" accepted the endorsement of John Hagee; a man who not only called the Catholic Church "the great wh*re" who conspired with Hitler to exterminate Jews, but who believes Hurricane Katrina was a righteous punishment, sent to the people of New Orleans for their sins.

And there's another endorsement McCain received that has been flying under the radar. Last month, McCain:

...campaigned in Cincinnati, where he appeared with the Rev. Rod Parsley of World Harvest Church of Columbus. McCain called Parsley a "spiritual guide," while Parsley later labeled McCain a "strong, true, consistent conservative."

Who is Rod Parsley? An Ohio pastor whose $600 million ministry's finances is cloaked in secrecy, a man who sells ""covenant swords" and "prayer cloths" -- that he claims will bring...freedom from financial problems as well as any physical or emotional ailments," a man who calls himself a high priest who only has to blow in a whistle to have "every demon is coming off your shoulders, outta your mind, outta your finances," and who wants to "restore Godly presence in government and culture and...will tear down the church-state wall."

Whoa -- it's hard to overstate how bad the audit findings are for the poor, beleaguered NRCC, which just lost Denny Hastert's old seat in a special election, too. You just have to wonder, how is it possible the NRCC's treasurer stole one million dollars and nobody noticed anything?

The Post story notes this fact:

However, [the auditor] said that the year-end report filed with the Federal Election Commission in 2006 overstated the NRCC's actual cash on hand by $990,000.

What the story doesn't say is that the NRCC's stated cash on hand was only $1,401,618 -- meaning that if the discrepancy represents what the treasurer stole, which it likely does, then he simply stole most of the NRCC's money. Kind of makes you think of a high school election in which the candidate's buddy makes off with the cash box, except it's not a high school candidate, it's a national party.'

Republicans so greedy they even steal from themselves. LOL.

Senator Obama, whose campaign only last year said that he was "proud of his pastor and his church," is now saying that he wasn't aware of the angry, reckless, anti-American, and racially divisive comments by Reverend Wright.

But that claim stretches credulity.

Reverend Wright, after all, is not a stranger who is offering up a presidential-year endorsement. Wright has instead played a pivotal role in Obama's life -- including marrying Barack and Michelle Obama, baptizing their two children, and inspiring the title of Obama's second book, The Audacity of Hope.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTM4MGVjNzBhMDMxYWI3NjA3NTkzNTA0NjQ0NWJjMDM=

Maybe Obama was considering using "God Damn America" for the title of his book, but it didn't focus-group so well.

And on the matter of "guilt by association," here's a thought experiment. Assume that the spiritual leader and pastor of the church George W. Bush or John McCain attended was, say, a white supremacist or an anti-gay bigot. Do you think that there would be any hesitancy among the press to push the "guilt by association" storyline?

I rather doubt it.

A NEW DAY, A NEW HIGH FOR OIL, A NEW LOW FOR THE DOLLAR.

Get used to it folks. This is what Republican rule has done to us. Destroyed not only our own ecomony but on the wya to destroying the entire world's.

Source: Reuters

'TOKYO (Reuters) - Oil jumped to a record above $111 a barrel on Monday, as a surprise weekend cut in the Federal Reserve discount rate and the fire sale of stricken U.S. investment bank Bear Stearns (BSC.N) sent the dollar to all-time lows.'

Keith is the lowest-rated cable news show in that time slot.

Hardly an "icon".

This article is a joke.

Keith sportscaster is a joke.

Can we get back to some real issues?

You are fawning over Keith. Please. Enough already. The man has no one on his show that does not agree with him.

Yes, I became familiar with you from his show. But I am done with him. My whole family is done with him.

He has his nerve to attack Ferraro and Clinton and accuse them of divisiveness? What does he think he has done? He is a joke. He is in love with Obama.

As a previous poster pointed out, he attacks Clinton and Ferraro with his self-righteous rant, but with Obama, he simply gives him a forum to try and explain away the most recent bombshell.

Had Clinton been exposed as attending such a racist, divisive church, Olbermann probably would have attacked her -- as he has for months -- but because it is his little Obama, he offers him a slot to talk things out.

I used to love his show, and I loved MSNBC. I loved Chris Matthews. But they are ridiculously irresponsible in the way they have latched onto Obama.

Had they done their job, the public would not just be finding out about Obama and his radical background, but no, they were so busy drooling over him, that if he winds up being the nominee, the White House is lost to the republicans. Middle America is not going to elect a black man who is a member of a radical black church, as they should't. Just as they should not elect a white person that attends a "White Pride" white-supremacy church.

And you can blame the press for that. I have never been so disgusted in my life as I am about their behavior in this election. I hope Olbermann tanks. I am sure he has lost half of his audience.

Oh Goracle, You are the only one who can help rescue the party from this quagmire of our nominating process. This must be our just payback, this wrath you have called down on us eco-sinners.

We have not acted in the new socially correct green fashion. Please forgive us, Oh Goracle, for consuming the things we ought not to have consumed, for telling little green lies, and help bring peace and love to the Dem party forever.

Signed, the Libs

'Marc Ambinder reports Bill Kristol's NYT column today contains "a major, prejudicial error." Kristol asserts that Obama "was in fact in the pews" when pastor Jeremiah Wright blamed the "arrogance" of the "United States of White America" for much of the world's suffering. Kristol's "source" for the claim is a story reported by the right-wing publication Newsmax. Ambinder writes:

The error is in trusting the source without checking.

The truth is that Obama did not attend church on July 22.

He was on his way to campaign in Miami.

(Here is some video evidence.) This was before he signed an agreement forbidding himself from campaigning in Florida.

Sadly, this isn't Kristol's first error. He misattributed a quote in his first column for the paper.'

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/kristol-commits-major-error-in-nyt-column/

gee i thought we were leaving iraq when they wanted us to:

'McClatchy reports on these "worms in the water" five years after "liberation":

To them, the real crime is that five years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, they still swelter in the summer and freeze in the winter because of a lack of electricity. Government rations are inevitably late, incomplete or expired. Garbage piles up for days, sometimes weeks, emanating toxic fumes.

The list goes on: black-market fuel, phone bills for land lines that haven't worked in years, education and health-care systems degraded by the flight of thousands of Iraq's best teachers and doctors. [...]

In some poor areas of Baghdad, militias or Iranian-backed charities have become the main source of propane tanks, food staples, garbage collection and other services that the government should provide.

A new poll for BBC, ABC, ARD and NHK finds that a majority of Iraqis [72 percent] oppose the presence of coalition forces in Iraq and believe that these troops are making the security situation worse. A plurality want foreign forces to leave immediately.'

'Signed, The Libs'

truly pathetic. go back to your coloring books..

328 comments? Wow, this is a hot topic, for sure. Sorry I got in on the bottom.

For anyone who previously doubted that the Republicans are voting for Hillary in the primaries, as a tactic to make sure they will have her around to beat on after the convention, just go to this Boston Globe article.
http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=352464978493976133

This alone should make every loyal Democrat determined to support Obama, and not in disrespect for Hillary, but in simple, logical strategy intended to beat Mccain and his Rovian puppet-masters.

And calling Keith "sexist" because he took Hillary to task, is a knee-slapper.

'Obama's a liar, and a conceited liar at that.'

you mean ' uppity' right? just say it.

Again, when you Dems have dicided on a nominee...anyone, someone, for the love of Pete!...then get back to us about the general election issues.

Until then, you are stuck in your own mud and your immediate attention is needed.

Oh great and mighty DNC leader Howard Dean, please save us from ourselves.

Signed, The Libs

And John McCain is the biggest hypocrite, flipflopper and panderer that's ever run for office.

And anyone who would read the incoherent babblings and rantings of Kristol has an advanced case of brain rot.

Back in 2000, John W. McCain had an unintended moment of honesty and said:

'They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country.

Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.'

...and ever since, McCain has shamelessly tried to disassociate himself from his own words, while the media helpfully looks the other way. He "mended fences" with Jerry Falwell, abandoned his own religion, now pretending to be a Baptist, and he "proudly" accepted the endorsement of John Hagee; a man who not only called the Catholic Church "the great wh*re" who conspired with Hitler to exterminate Jews, but who believes Hurricane Katrina was a righteous punishment, sent to the people of New Orleans for their sins.

And there's another endorsement McCain received that has been flying under the radar. Last month, McCain:

...campaigned in Cincinnati, where he appeared with the Rev. Rod Parsley of World Harvest Church of Columbus. McCain called Parsley a "spiritual guide," while Parsley later labeled McCain a "strong, true, consistent conservative."

Who is Rod Parsley? An Ohio pastor whose $600 million ministry's finances is cloaked in secrecy, a man who sells ""covenant swords" and "prayer cloths" -- that he claims will bring...freedom from financial problems as well as any physical or emotional ailments," a man who calls himself a high priest who only has to blow in a whistle to have "every demon is coming off your shoulders, outta your mind, outta your finances," and who wants to "restore Godly presence in government and culture and...will tear down the church-state wall."

"This doesn't mean that Obama agrees with Wright's thoroughgoing and conspiracy-heavy anti-Americanism. Rather, Obama seems to have seen, early in his career, the utility of joining a prominent church that would help him establish political roots in the community in which he lives.

Now he sees the utility of distancing himself from that church.

Obama's behavior in dealing with Wright is consistent with that of a politician who often voted "present" in the Illinois State Legislature for the sake of his future political viability.

The more you learn about him, the more Obama seems to be a conventionally opportunistic politician, impressively smart and disciplined, who has put together a good political career and a terrific presidential campaign.

But there's not much audacity of hope there.

There's the calculation of ambition, and the construction of artifice, mixed in with a dash of deceit -- all covered over with the great conceit that this campaign, and this candidate, are different."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Obama's a liar, and a conceited liar at that.

Your post is as outrageous as Olbermann's rant. His ratings like all of MSNBC's are at the bottom of the cable ratings. You fail to mention that he has lost probably half of his audience over his biased reporting of the Democratic campaign. I stopped watching at least 5 weeks ago and in reading blog traffic note that many others have also. He can rant and rave about O'Reilly all that he wants, but O'Reilly is still on top and Olbermann is losing viewers. Your appearances obviously aren't helping either. I am a lifelong Democrat and really resent what someone like Olbermann is doing to the party.

and john mccain wants this preacher thing to go away as well -- because he's got a big problem too if the press wants to continue to talk about it. his preacher supporters are equally big-mouthed and racist -- indeed, they are CULTISTS. but there's a few STATES he will lose if he repudiates them.

'I'm not sure if this will work or not. But here's a youtube of John McCain essentially saying, "I do know Senator Obama, he does not share those views." This is on Fox directly to Sean Hannity's face.

He goes on to say that there are a lot surrogates that say things on both campaigns that the candidates clearly don't agree with. In fact, at one point he sighs as he seems annoyed that this is even an issue.

I have two thoughts on this. One, McCain is trying the good cop/bad cop thing where the 527s will be the bad cop. Two, he actually is annoyed that this is an issue - he himself has a problem with it as well.

If that doesn't work, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQquSOnlxJ8

Shame on the brainless republicans who keep flogging this stupid, trivial story when our financial markets are melting down and our people are still being pointlessly sacrificed in this savagely pointless 'war.' and Cheney is over in Iraq, begging Iraqis to do american oil companies bidding -- but the Iraqi government is too corrupt and self-interested to do that anymore... and of course he's over there at the same time as McCain, using taxpayer money to help the repulican, of course... corruption as usual.

'The Iraqis do not yet have a law for sharing the nation's oil wealth among the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, a law that the Bush administration believes will trigger multinational energy companies to invest in exploration and production in Iraq.

Also unfinished is a plan for new provincial elections. Iraq's presidential council, which must give its nod to laws passed by the Iraqi parliament, rejected a plan for new elections last month, shipping it back to the legislature.

The rejection, a setback to the U.S. campaign for national reconciliation, came despite Cheney's last-minute phone call to the main holdout on the three-member panel: Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi, a Shiite. Cheney was expected to speak with Abdul-Mahdi and the other two members of the council, President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, and Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi, while in Iraq.

The war is entering its sixth year.'

"It's becoming clear that Obama has been less than candid in addressing his relationship to his pastor, Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.

For example, Obama claimed Friday that "the statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity."

Obama was in fact in the pews at Trinity last July 22. That's when Wright blamed the "arrogance" of the "United States of White America" for much of the world's suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.

In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright's preaching and their centrality to his worldview, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

When you Dems have finally decided on a nominee, perhaps you can join the conversation about important issues.

Until then, carry on with your identity-politics and nominating process SNAFUs. It's all working out so well.

Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

Contrary to Senator Barack Obama's claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the world's suffering, especially the oppression of blacks. . . .

In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the "United States of White America" and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened.

Hearing Wright's attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

Obama is now a proven liar. He was sitting there and nodding in agreement at the racist black-separatist Anti-American rhetoric coming from that preacher.

He was nodding and clapping for 20 years at the disgusting divisive, non-unifying, non-Christian, non-patriotic message that Jeremiah Wright has inculcated the black community with.

Shame on Wright for brainwashing those parishoners against their own country. And shame on Obama for listening to it and for nodding in agreement.

Even Oprah Winfrey stopped going to this church. Obama hasn't the courage to really stand up against any of it.

'Now last evidently you didn't have anyone that died on those planes or in the buildings how about those little kids that were killed when the plane crashed into the Pentegon, shame on you for thinking its alright to dam America'

this is the level of illiteracy attained by republicans. amazing they can even manage to tie their shoes.

First of all I used to watch MSMBC I thought they were more fair but then watching them for a while ,all the programs are one sided so I watch Fox
If you think that obama did not know what his pastor preached from the pulpit only whhen Obama wasn't there you are short of a full deck Now last evidently you didn't have anyone that died on those planes or in the buildings how about those little kids that were killed when the plane crashed into the Pentegon, shame on you for thinking its alright to dam America

five years later and Iraq continues to deteriorate...

'On April 1, 2007, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) strolled through the
open-air Shorja market in Baghdad in an effort to prove that Americans are "not getting the full picture" of what's going on in Iraq. In a press conference after his Baghdad tour, McCain told a reporter that his visit to the market was proof that people could "walk freely" in parts of Baghdad.

What McCain failed to mention was that he was accompanied by "100 American soldiers, with three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships overhead." He also appeared to be wearing a bulletproof vest during his visit.

Since that trip, McCain has claimed that the situation in Iraq has improved even more. A few months ago, McCain claimed that "we've succeeded militarily" in Iraq. Things, of course, are going so well, that he wants to keep U.S. troops there for at least 100 years.

McCain is now back in Iraq for a "surprise visit with Iraqi and American diplomatic and military leaders." He is joined by fellow Iraq war defenders Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC). But it's unlikely they will be visiting the Shorja market again. Today, CNN reported that they tried to visit the Shorja market, but it was too unsafe and they were unable to go:

We got close to that marketplace today, Jim, but our own security advisers here in Iraq did not want us to go there. They didn't believe it was safe for an American to be in that area'

You see, it's now controlled by Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi army, like much of Iraq.

'If the tables were turned and a Republican had a similar relationship with an equally racist white preacher, the media would be all over it. Instead, Obama is allowed to get away with this.

Part of the problem is, the 'church' the guy leads is non-denominational; all of the doctrine and direction comes from the pulpit, the cult of personality embodied by the preacher.'

McCain has sucked up to and sought the support of several 'preachers' of the most vile, hateful cults of 'personality' imaginable. Theology-school dropouts and garden variety self-annointed sleazy money-grubbing Elmer Gantrys. Catholicc and oman-hating, racist, sexist end-times lunatics. And, oh yes, the Confederate flag, he has embraced that too, now. And the media has barely mentioned it. Yet this Wright thing is all over the front pages. Naturally. He's a democrat, the media can't wait to slime him.

As for Olberman, how can anyone complain about him when there are legions of ranters far worse than him on the radical right? And of course, the slimy Drudge.

As for you proud, 'stoopid' says it all.

'Probably because most "Progressives" are selling drugs, being prostitutes, or standing in WIC lines. Too busy to watch the news.'

And you cons? Too stupid to understand the news. Hell, you can't even stay inside the lines in your coloring books.

Olbermann is nothing but a sportscaster douche bag and we all know it.

If he had half the viewership of OReilly, maybe we can call him "Iconic".

Too bad "Progressives" just don't possess the part of their brain that allows them to think, discuss, listen, and argue. Hence, no talk radio. It's too advanced for the "Progressive" (liberal) mind.

His show is a joke, Chris. I'm sorry you have to go on it. Maybe you should consider spending time with real journalists.

NBC, MSNBC is a joke. It's the least-watched cable news network. Probably because most "Progressives" are selling drugs, being prostitutes, or standing in WIC lines. Too busy to watch the news.

Many Republicans are voting for Hillary:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_clinton_to_boost_gop/

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.

The Republican meanness is alive and well. They won't prolong the Dem battle and leave the spotlight off the 100-year-Iraq war-loving, in-bed-with-lobbyists, "let them eat cake" McCain.

Obama supporters are infantile.

The cover their eyes and ears to keep out information they don't want to hear.

I and other readers have posed links to news reports from Chicago TV and newspapers about Obama's slums.

No matter how much evidence Obana's supporters see, they just cover their eyes and ears and sing "LA LA LA"

The truth is in the public record.

The evidence has been posted over and over.

The truth will be the end of the "cult of Obama"

Posted by: svreader | March 15, 2008 08:59 PM
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Classic self fulfilling prophecy.
If one denies a truth often enough they become convinced that that truth is actually a lie.
As far as Obama is concerned? He would be a successful actor in Hollywood. Maybe he would consider joining L. Ron's exclusive "club" by donating what ever is left from his campaign ride? Since his blathering mouthed "uncle" is retiring he needs to find a new male role model.

Deval Patrick, you know the Gov. of Mass. that his good friend Obama plagiarized in his inspirational speeches, said yesterday on Face The Nation that the super delegates should vote supporting their district voters. So Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Gov. Patrick will vote for Hillary Clinton, right? She did win in the Mass. primary didn't she? Two will vote according to their spoken (Obama) commitment, one will vote according to cultural (Obama) similarity.
A man of honor keeps his word. So what happened to the Mass. voter support Patick spoke about today? So much for honor.

Drindl, you made a point worth addressing when you brought up McCain's wife and her drug problems. Had Michelle Obama went through a drug addiction phase like that, it would have been bad - very, very bad for Obama's presidential ambitions.

I think it's interesting to consider how different things would be if we were talking about Michelle Obama. There would undoubtedly be a lot prejudice aimed at her.

I would like to see some more coverage on Cindy's past drug problems. It's an important issue, I think, because it raises questions about McCain's character. Who among us would stay married to our spouse if we found out they had such serious problems with drugs? Not me. Her behavior was totally inexusable.

Olbermann really is an ideologue. I hope nobody mistakes his views for objectivity. I think he's being honest when he denies he's stumping for Obama. Olbermann, like most liberals, has become so sensitive to any possibility of racism, no matter how small, that he dismisses an entire argument without thinking twice about it. This is insane. There were a few problems with Ferraro's comments, but she nevertheless raised an interesting point.

But in all fairness to Olbermann, I think the comparison to Rush Limbaugh is a bit over the top. One would be hard pressed to find an analogue to Limbaugh. Sometimes I wonder how he's managed to keep it together for so many years. I'm always expecting to hear of him having a nervous breakdown or something.

Olbermann, in my opinion, seems more like a left-wing Bill O'Reilly. Much more tame, much less deluded than Rush. But whatever one's view of the Limbaugh comparison, CC has a point when he says, "...underestimate the power of Limbaugh at your own peril."

I love how the Obamabots come on here and make accusations that they can never prove about the Clinton's but when FACTS of Obama's friendship with a black militant separatist that hates the US and Isreal not to mention white people, they say "Oh but look at what the Clinton's did! The Clinton's didn't go to KKK rallies and if they did I would ask them to step out of the race> they didn't, so I'm asking Obama's racist sermon listening ass to get out. Democrats want the white house and the road doesn't lead through Obama anymore.

I am with the multitude who agree with Ferraro's observation.

I am not a white person, but I can't help but further notice that the mentality among a number of black voters is that if one doesn't like Obama, the person is a racist. But if 90% of black voters vote for Obama, are they not being racist themselves? Is racism only one-way, that is only directed among blacks?

Something to think about... personally, I think the Obama supporters are starting to bully the rest of us.

Keith O. is a subpar imitation of what a true professional commentator should be. I remember when he was the up and coming super analyst in ESPN. About the only good thing he has going for him is that he dislikes Clinton. And that for me is enough not to totally bash the guy. At least for now.

The main thing right now is to continue the push of eliminating Hillary Clinton from the democratic race. If enough people are persuaded not to vote for Hillary then all the better.

FORGET CLINTON/OBAMA DISCUSS OUR PRE-ORDAINED FUTURE OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY.

We are one diverse nation united by our ability to protect ourselves by the best and very

effective means: Our Defense Department. Our most important institution: the U.S.A

Defense Department was and is still the leader in all economic and civil rights

advancement in our society. The best way to strengthen our money: the mighty U.S dollar

at home and abroad, while regaining the confidence of a great majority of our citizens

(black, white, green, blue and red), investors and bankers is through the unabashed

display of our innovatively strong and overwhelming military might.

The next President of the USA, should bomb Iran back into the Stone Age. He, who is

most likely to be our own war hero, the wise visionary, President McCain should show

no mercy, whatsoever. Scorch all Iranian territory; a brilliant war policy that will require

no boots on the ground, which would save us blood and treasure, and just as importantly

no nuclear armed Iran. Well President McCain is no great singer: "Bomb, Bomb Iran"

(Barbara Ann song), we should be elated that this song will be our humbled rallying cry

for permanent and lasting peace in the Middle East. For our children's future and for

the sake of affirmatively securing long-lasting peace President McCain should do

relentless aerial bombing raids to rid us of this axis of evil Iranian problem, thus all

neighbors of Iran will come to fear our ruthless stick it to you diplomacy and dutifully

fall in line and obey the future we envisioned for them. To be loved and feared is ideal

but in our present reality there is only one option now and the near future and the best

option for us is to be greatly feared. Subsequently, President McCain should allow the

Jewish Israelis to push back and remove all Palestinians out of the Holy Land once and

for all eternity, even the treacherous enemy within: so-called Arab-Israelis. Let the Arabs

find room among their population for those Palestinians and those duplicitous Arab-

Israelis. If we don't support President McCain in this very solemn but resourcefully self-

preserving patriotic resolve, the chickens from the decades of failed Middle East policies

will surely come home to roost on us all.

No more 911s, pre-emption is the best prevention!!!

.... I agree with everything Ferraro has said about Obama...100%, If Obama were a white man...with the same record he wouldn't have gotten this far.

Posted by: tmcinroy | March 15, 2008 03:30 PM

Let's say that everything about Obama is the same: same abilities, talents, experience, 2 years in Senate, 8 years in the Illinois legislature, Constitutional lawyer, community organizer - even his faults. The only thing different is Obama is a white man. I disagree with Ferraro and you. Hillary would be but a memory. Obama would have all the delegates he needed to get the nomination and take the presidential election by 30 points. Geraldine Ferraro is so angry and frustrated that Hillary is not the inevitable candidate she expected her to be that she brought up the same argument against Obama that she brought up against Jesse Jackson when he was running. She has definite racist tendencies.

If anyone speaks the truth to the Clintons, there is always h*ll to pay. I watched both nights when he scolded Cli