The real subtext of the ad that aired immediately before the Pennsylvania primary is that "Obama," may well be "Osama" -- i.e., a subversive terrorist in disguise. Accordingly, if you vote for such an "unknown" candidate in the polling booth (as opposed to the "known" Clinton brand), the end result may be the scenes that appear in that ad.

Hillary Clinton and her campaign continuously have created an association between Obama as a "terrorist in disguise" from the very outset, when Judy Rose, a senior staff person in Hillary Clinton's Iowa office, circulated the "Barack Obama is a Muslim terrorist in disguise" email. That email is alive and well -- indeed, it circulates in every state the week before each state's primary, along with the unpatriotic email. Then we add the Somali dress, the alleged Weathermen connection, the failure to wear a flag pin, etc., etc. Today, 13% - 16% of voters openly admit that they think that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

I canvassed for 4 days in Philadelphia, and can therefore attest that many working class voters, who did not follow the campaign as closely as others, felt uneasy with an unfamiliar name like "Obama." Hillary Clinton seized on such fears, which her campaign both ignited and continues to fuel.

I was naive when I thought the campaign would be run on the issues rather than on character assassination right out of the box.

I've been reading these blogs for several months now. I see Obama people criticize Hillary and Bill all the time. They say the Clinton years were a failure, that we don't want to go back to the way it was during the Clinton years, and so forth. With all due respect, those of us who have been following politics and government policies for twenty or thirty years or more know that this point of view is simply wrong. I'm not beholden to the Clintons, but I think they have done a great job for their country. The Clinton Presidency was a tremendous success, and we'd do great to have eight more years of that success.

It strikes me that I have never seen any pro-Obama entries that make a persuasive case that their man has the experience and expertise which qualifies him for the most important job in the world. He's an American Idol contestant. He's photogenic and a talented speaker, but that doesn't qualify him for this position. We need to send the best person up for this job, not the flavor of the day.

If someone wants to make the case that Obama is well-qualified, I'm willing to read what you have to say. Just give me a break with the empty, phatic remarks that Obama is great and that Hillary is a witch. It may make you feel good to vent, but you aren't going to convince anyone with those meaningless entries.

I've been reading these blogs for several months now. I see Obama people criticize Hillary and Bill all the time. They say the Clinton years were a failure, that we don't want to go back to the way it was during the Clinton years, and so forth. With all due respect, those of us who have been following politics and government policies for twenty or thirty years or more know that this point of view is simply wrong. I'm not beholden to the Clintons, but I think they have done a great job for their country. The Clinton Presidency was a tremendous success, and we'd do great to have eight more years of that success.

It strikes me that I have never seen any pro-Obama entries that make a persuasive case that their man has the experience and expertise which qualifies him for the most important job in the world. He's an American Idol contestant. He's photogenic and a talented speaker, but that doesn't qualify him for this position. We need to send the best person up for this job, not the flavor of the day.

If someone wants to make the case that Obama is well-qualified, I'm willing to read what you have to say. Just give me a break with the empty, phatic remarks that Obama is great and that Hillary is a witch. It may make you feel good to vent, but you aren't going to convince anyone with those meaningless entries.

Umm, apparently Osama bin Laden is quite perturbed by Hillary's use of his photograph and has expressed his unrending support for Barack Obama: http://www.236.com/news/2008/04/23/236_oped_bin_laden_knows_whos_6026.php

It is sad that Hillary has allowed her campaign to go negative. She would be ahead at this point if she let the voters see her as she was at the the Faith Forum on CNN. She has displayed at various times a genuine likable persona that I have come to admire - even though I am supporting Obama. She is eminently qualified to be President. But this Country needs more than a qualified President. We need an inspirational leader that will unite us in our common causes and Barack Obama is the only one of the candidates that fills that bill.
The Obama organization has been superior to Clinton's and that has caused the Clinton camp to go negative and for that I cannot give her my support. It was unnecessary and while Obama has taken the high road I must continue to help get the vote out for him.
The Republicans vitriolic attitude toward the Clintons will keep our Government in gridlock if she were to be elected.
She would make a wonderful Secretary of State or perhaps even Secretary of Defense.
Unfortunately for her - no one really expects she couls get meaningful legislation through Congress.

It is sad that Hillary has allowed her campaign to go negative. She would be ahead at this point if she let the voters see her as she was at the the Faith Forum on CNN. She has displayed at various times a genuine likable persona that I have come to admire - even though I am supporting Obama. She is eminently qualified to be President. But this Country needs more than a qualified President. We need an inspirational leader that will unite us in our common causes and Barack Obama is the only one of the candidates that fills that bill.
The Obama organization has been superior to Clinton's and that has caused the Clinton camp to go negative and for that I cannot give her my support. It was unnecessary and while Obama has taken the high road I must continue to help get the vote out for him.
The Republicans vitriolic attitude toward the Clintons will keep our Government in gridlock if she were to be elected.
She would make a wonderful Secretary of State or perhaps even Secretary of Defense.
Unfortunately for her - no one really expects she couls get meaningful legislation through Congress.

Senator Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate. Senator Barack Obama is weak. He cannot handle tough questions. He looks petulant, tired and stressful. His old slogan "ready to go and fired up" no longer is true. Senator Obama suffered a shock. Even his hair looks with silver spots. Check new videos. Vote smart. Vote for Senator Hillary Clinton.

harvard school of medicine's definition of being racially black,

"a person who's geneology is somewhere between 1% and 99% white"

harvard school of medicine's definition of being racially white,

"a person who's geneology is cleansed of all non-caucasian genes"

so there you have it, Acadamia's viewpoint on race in America, a white person is so supreme, that the very existence of one drop of non-white blood, and you are not white.

no wonder we have a problem in america. what's wrong with calling all the multi-cultural people persons of mixed race?

OBAMA PAID $300 BILLION FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ. AFTER PAYING $20 MILLION TO LOSE THE PENNSYLVANIA PRIMARY AGAINST HIS OPPONENT HILLARY CLINTON, WELL IT'S NO WONDER.

NOW OBAMA HAS LEFT PENSYLVANIA AND IS TOO CHICKEN TO DEBATE HER. BOO HOO MR WHIMP.
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IF OBAMA CAN'T DEBATE CLINTON HOW CAN OBAMA CONFRONT OBAMA?
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Because I am a patriotic American if HRC wins the Democratic nomination, I will campaign and vote for McCain.
Here's why.
The Clintons have taken $15 million (w/ ano 20 on account) from the Emir of Dubai. This occured while HRC sat in the US Senate. Dubai is a repressive antiSemitic anti Israel oligarchy and no friend of the US. Nor does the Emir give away money out of the goodness of his heart. He owns the Clintons. This is not influence peddling. It's treason.

Reading these posts reminds me of angry parents at their children's soccer match, ready to pull each other's hair out...

It's unhealthy and disturbing....

Clinton clearly is not the choice. She is a republican anyway ...maybe she can be McCains running mate...we do not want her in the Democratic Party she is so pathetic, she must know where Bin Laden is since she voted for the war to capture him and he is still out there she ..... lets not forget her husband is the most disgraceful President ever.... since she have so much experince for pres by being a first lady then one can only conclude she approved it , thats woh you want for Pres? I hope the DNC kicks her out of the party her and Bill are a disgrace...anyone want to join the petition......she is hurting our party lets voice it. Obama has already won she cannot overturn the numbers or the will of the people dont think for one minute the DNC is that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!

G.W.BUSH FOOLED EVERYONE AROUND TO GO FOR THE INTRICATED WAR IN IRAQ. IS THE HILLARY CAMP TRYING TO USE THE SAME TACTICS TO GET A DESPERATELLY NEEDED 2 DIGITS WIN IN PA.?

this just in. Julie Nixon Eisenhower has endorsed Barack Obama.

"I wonder what the percentage of Shaniquas and Tyrells will vote for ole Purple Lips?"
Posted by: Nadeem Zacharia

Good one, Nadeem. Written like a distinguished speaker of broken English. Bet you wouldn't say anything like that to any of your targets' faces. Nice Arabic name, I see. Yours?

LIBERAL:

Little, Ignorant, Bastards, Every, Real, American, Loathes

Let's see,

We have about 30 million democratic votes, many of them Rush's OC people and temporarily disgruntled Independents, who have voted so far.

Now, about 100 million voters participated in the last Gen. Elec. '04.

So, that leaves us with 70 million American still MIA.

And, given that this primary is like no other, with allll the media hype, allll the controversy, alllll the African-Americans newly registered voters, and allll the new college children who recently registered, and allll the Hannity comments....

My calculations reveal a simple truth, that unless 20 million Independents come rushing over to the left, McCain will have a cake walk, come Nov.

"who's gotta quota, you gotta quota, I never said I need no damn quota!"

harvard school of medicine definition of being racially black,

"a person who's geneology is somewhere between 1% and 99% white"

I think we could take any hip hop star or the latest rage in Hollywood, dress them in a suit and they would pull the votes of the young and uninformed, the haters, the liberal lattes and the bloodtypes. I would much rather have a President with experience that has as a spouse a former President and Rhode Scholar, then someone with limited experience that took a lot of bucks from a slum lord. Now a harder choice is McArdane McCain versus the Clinton crw.

Now that I've watched the videos, I can't help but come to the conclusion that Sen Clinton thinks the world is going to hell in the next 4 years.

The more posts I see from svreader, the more convinced I become that we should make an IQ test a prerequisite for voting privileges.

By the way, the anoymous commenter idea started with the delphi method created by the Rand corp and used by DOD.

It has real disadvantages over other methods, because it prevents people from skipping over my repetitive comments.

My bet is that svreader is a sock puppet living in his mother's basement.

Bad news for America. He's got a computer and an internet connection.

Lets hope his mother takes away his computer privileges ...

Vanmap...
Using a story by Michael John Gerson, an Evangelical Christian op-ed columnist and a man who served as President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter from 2001 until June 2006, and as a senior policy advisor from 2000 through June 2006. Is downright laughable. A member of the White House Iraq Group, Gerson was called "the conscience of the White House" by some admirers. Wow you really made the case with that source. Is that anything like the assertion that Hillary is resorting to GOP tactics? Sourcing a GOP to make her point sure sounds just like that.

Vanmap...
Using a story by Michael John Gerson, an Evangelical Christian op-ed columnist and a man who served as President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter from 2001 until June 2006, and as a senior policy advisor from 2000 through June 2006. Is downright laughable. A member of the White House Iraq Group, Gerson was called "the conscience of the White House" by some admirers. Wow you really made the case with that source. Is that anything like the assertion that Hillary is resorting to GOP tactics? Sourcing a GOP to make her point sure sounds just like that.

Vanmap...
Using a story by Michael John Gerson, an Evangelical Christian op-ed columnist and a man who served as President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter from 2001 until June 2006, and as a senior policy advisor from 2000 through June 2006. Is downright laughable. A member of the White House Iraq Group, Gerson was called "the conscience of the White House" by some admirers. Wow you really made the case with that source. Is that anything like the assertion that Hillary is resorting to GOP tactics? Sourcing a GOP to make her point sure sounds just like that.

The more posts I see from Obama supporters, the more convinced I become that we should raise the voting age and bring back the draft.

By the way, the anoymous commenter idea started with the delphi method created by the Rand corp and used by DOD.

It has real advantages over other methods, because it prevents people from pre-judging comments based on who they come from.

My bet is that most of the Obama supporter posts come from a single person or a small group of young kids.

Good news for America. It looks like he's going to lose in Penn.

Lets hope he drops out after that...

VAMMAP-"The scrapping of the April 27 debate leaves the prospect for further showdowns between the two candidates unclear."

The performance of Obama during the PA debate left the prospect for further showdowns between the two candidates crystal clear - there will be no more debates.

There should be no period in Harry S. Truman

Puritanical Dems are doing what they do best; reaching for their feinting couches.

Personally, I don't see anything objectionable in the add, whatsoever.

I may be gay, but I'm not a p#ssy!

Hate to say it because we are close in age, but I think not only is John Sidney McCain III, to old to be President, but that Senator Clinton is too. In light of the sheer number, depth and importance of all the problems facing our country I would prefer someone younger with more energy to tackle the job.

Excellent, Hillary! You DO have what it takes! Many have tried to knock you down - year after year after year. But you keep bouncing right back up - time and time again! You have tenacity - which is what we need NOW in the Oval Office>

Hillary CAN take the heat! Over and over and over again! She's a fighter!

Hillary Clinton will be our next President!

Mark your calendars for January 20, 2009!

Madame President - Hillary Clinton - will step into the Oval Office for the first time!

The Hillary lovers that like to bash Obama about Guilt by association may want to watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo7fIPW8Tu0

svreader=VAMMAP

Guilt be assocation twice removed; give us a break. We're talking about an association of choice.

A Speech That Fell Short
By Michael Gerson

WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama has run a campaign based on a simple premise: that words of unity and hope matter to America. Now he has been forced by his charismatic, angry pastor to argue that words of hatred and division don't really matter as much as we thought.

Obama's Philadelphia speech made this argument as well as it could be made. He condemned the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's views in strong language -- and embraced Wright as a wayward member of the family. He made Wright and his congregation a symbol of both the nobility and "shocking ignorance" of the African-American experience -- and presented himself as a leader who transcends that conflicted legacy. The speech recognized the historical reasons for black anger -- and argued that the best response to those grievances is the adoption of Obama's own social and economic agenda.

It was one of the finest political performances under pressure since John F. Kennedy at the Greater Houston Ministerial Association in 1960. It also fell short in significant ways.

The problem with Obama's argument is that Wright is not a symbol of the strengths and weaknesses of the African-American community. He is a political extremist, holding views that are shocking to many Americans who wonder how any presidential candidate could be so closely associated with an adviser who refers to the "U.S. of KKK-A" and urges God to "damn" our country.

Obama's excellent and important speech on race in America did little to address his strange tolerance for the anti-Americanism of his spiritual mentor.

Take an issue that Obama did not specifically confront in Philadelphia. In a 2003 sermon, Wright claimed, "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/new_wright.html

Can Barack truly embrace everyone? Even those who have antipathy, according to him, for people who aren't like them, to middle class whites who cling to guns and religion? It appears not.

Hillary is right. It shows exceptionally poor judgment to have someone officially part of your campaign who praises Louis Farrakhan.

Watch the video here:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA

"The party also cited worries about "party unity," after last week's combative debate in Philadelphia, a focused grilling of Senator Barack Obama on topics he would have preferred to avoid."

Preferred to avoid? If he is the nominee he won't have a choice; he won't be able to avoid those topics. That was a tactical decision to shield him. That's an extremely arbitrary move on their part. What this essentially says is, we are protecting him.
How do you think that flies with at least half of the Democratic electorate, who have supported Clinton?

'McCain will wage a campaign critical of Wall Street and corporate crooks and against "free trade". '

LOL. what a dope you are. McCain is in the pocket of Wall street and corporate crooks and 'free traders' and neocons. he may well
campaign against thm, altho I doubt that. but once in office, he will be their sock puppet, same as bush. Follow the money.

He really is McBush.

Did the ad mention the $15 million that the Clintons received from the Emir of Dubai over the past 10 years, or the Emir's visits to Bin Laden in Afghanistan?

VAMMAP:

As if Katie Couric needed any more bad news ...

Would you have wanted to see another debate anyways?

The more posts I see from svreader, the more convinced I become that we should bring back the automated sign-in.

"The North Carolina Democratic Party has dropped plans for an April 27 debate, which would have been moderated by CBS's Katie Couric.

Clinton had agreed to the debate; Obama did not, and the party said in a statement that the clock had run out to organize a debate. The party also cited worries about "party unity," after last week's combative debate in Philadelphia, a focused grilling of Senator Barack Obama on topics he would have preferred to avoid.

We regret to inform you that the proposed Democratic Presidential Debate scheduled for April 27 has been cancelled due to time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large, national event.

You have shown tremendous passion and interest in being a part of history as Democrats are poised this year to elect the first female or African-American President. However, there were also growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity.

The scrapping of the April 27 debate leaves the prospect for further showdowns between the two candidates unclear.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/No_debate_for_Couric.html

The more posts I see from Obama supporters, the more convinced I become that we should raise the voting age to 25 and bring back the draft.

Man, things have gotten really ridiculous.

It's OK for HRC to say, "McCain has experience, I have experience, Obama has a speech." But God help Obama for saying that even McCain would be better than Bush.

If we started making a list of who in politics/government would be better than Bush, we wouldn't have time for anything else.

She. Is. Absolutely. Shameless.

PLEASE, PLEASE, Pennsylvania! Deliver us from her!

Lets bring back the draft.

Its just what Obama supporters need.

What would svreader or his illk do without someone else's work to copy off of?????

They'd be still in middle school.

Obama copies other people's work and calls it his own.

He's hopeless without his teleprompter.

What would he or his supporters do without someone else's work to copy off of?????

They'd be like a deer in the headlights, just like he was in the debate.

We will not vote for him.

svreader doesn't have a record of delivering pizzas or anything else.

He was a failure in grade school and he's been a failure in the at McDonald's.

svreader loves Obama because of his race, his age, and his sex.

All of those are valid reasons to put Obama's poster over your bed.

This isn't a game.

WarCraft is.

What would he or his supporters do without someone else's work to copy off of?????

They'd be like a deer in the headlights, just like he was in the debate.

svreader and his ilk underestimate Obama.

Hillary Doesn't.

She can mimic the Republican attack machine.

Obama can't

She can lie through her teeth.

Obama can't.

Obama can hire Howard Wolfson after Hillary drops out.

He won't hire her Speechwriters.

svreader needs to grow a brain.

Hillary can't beat McCain.

Obama can.

Obama doesn't have a record of delivering change or anything else.

He was a failure in Chicago and he's been a failure in the Senate.

Obama's supporters support him because of his race, his age, and his sex.

None of those are valid reasons to support him over a far better and more qualified candidate.

This isn't a game.

If he's the nominee, he will lose by a landslide.

Obama's ad is excellent: an intelligent, swift, pointed, and positive response to the latest flaccid scare tactics from Clinton. It is so good to see a candidate who is not afraid to riposte with power and talent.

Obama will not be 'swift-boated' this fall!

Obama is a political rookie. He couldn't handle the truth in a primary; you can be sure he'll be hammered ad nauseum about Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright and "cling" comments by various swiftboaters.

But maybe the real issues, according to Susan Jacoby, the author of "The Age of American Unreason," who writes on the op-ed page of The Los Angeles Times. "This absence of curiosity about other points of view is the essence of anti-intellectualism and represents a major departure from the nation's best cultural traditions."

What Obama has not been able to embrace is that "people want validation for opinions they already hold." Hillary offered that; Obama is telling them THEY NEED to CHANGE. THEY meaning middle class white Americans who hold to certain cultural and societal customs and beliefs.

It's on this discord with the people that his candidacy hangs...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/?hp

Obama supporters are destroying the Democratic Party.

The superdelegates have to decide if they're willing to destroy the Democratic party just to satisfy a bunch of cult followers.

Mainstream Democrats will not vote for Obama.

We will not "close ranks to support our party"

The Obama nuts didn't support us, why should we support them?

If the Obama nuts take it over, its not our party anymore, anyway.

George Will on elitism...hmm, an area of hi greatest expertise. A brilliant man and excellent writer... and a man who should avoid writing about elitism and...hip-hop.

i'm not quite sure why the obama campaign is so worried about this ad (and i'm an obama supporter).

maybe i didn't read my roland barthes correctly... but it's clearly an ad in support of harry truman, is it not? :-)

P Diddy - Here are two citations.
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/obama-donations-show-strong-wall-st-support/?scp=4-b&sq=Obama+finance+Wall+Street&st=nyt

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_ignored_bundlers.php

One is a NYT piece on bundled donations to the Obama campaign back in 2007. The other is from last week (with references to a WaPost article on this, too). Both expose Obama's claim that most of his donations are in the $120 or less amount from ordinary voters to ridicule. In actual fact, well over 50% of Obama's donations are from wealthy Wall Street sorts, with the bulk of them coming from buy-out artists and the high tech industry (aka - "Age/Family Discrimination 'R Us", aka "Indian and Chinese Indentured Servants 'R Us"). Basically, the most recent article calls Obama and his campaign liars....and they are!...a corporate owned and funded hack, a raw and brash crook, no different than anything we have seen in the past.

Further, to call Will a pantywaist would be an insult to pantywaists.

Dave! writes
"I would have to agree with you on Buckley, however..."

I think Will aspires to reach a level of pretension that came naturally to Buckley.

Till then, some of us have second jobs to go to. Fun stuff.........

Dave!'s comments were facetious and I appreciated the humor in which they were given :-)

Gatorskinz...you caught me moonlighting on The Fix. I'll be back on RI soon enough :-)

P Diddy - "Is there a more "elitist" commentator than George Will?"
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Dick Cavett?

bsimon - "Dave, he asked for commentators."

I fully realized that. I answered as such because I believe that while politicians are on the campaign trail, they are in many aspects closely related to, if not part of the family, of a commentator (giving stump speeches, commenting on current events, etc). I would have to agree with you on Buckley, however...

That was supposed to be DT by the way.

So P.Diddy,

What you are suggesting is that the Redskins trade down in the draft and go for some linemen to protect Campbell? What about a new bookend on defense and Maybe a D to get some push up the middle? Also, how would you address the concern that the lack of a big possession type receiver is hindering Moss's ability to break free more often?

Gatorskinz2k

DAve! answers the question "Is there a more "elitist" commentator than George Will?"

with the suggestion
"Barack Obama?"

Dave, he asked for commentators. Sen Obama is not, therefore removing him from consideration. I'd say the late William F Buckley gave Will a run for the money, if not leaving Will in the dust of elitism.

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That is simply a great ad. Powerful, hypnotic, and emotional. I have watched it over and over. I hope it is effective. Go Hillary. Lead us.

Ad shows how much of a Sewer Rat Hiliary is, with her gutter politics. All she brings to the table is her experience of lies, more scandal and Clintonic business as usual. PA voters! DON'T screw up this time with a wasted vote. Send her Packing!!!!

The Novak piece I quoted from contains some of the most impartial things Robert Novak has ever said. And we have to consider that he just may be speaking authentically in an impartial voice, because after all he's not writing it about Hillary or Bill Clinton. That's his irrational Acchilles Heel...

"The reputation you develop for intellectual and ethical integrity will be your greatest asset or your worst enemy. You will be judged by your judgment. ... There is no victory, no advantage, no fee, no favor, which is worth even a blemish on your reputation for intellect and integrity. ... Dents to [your] reputation are irreparable."

Hillary, you should have listened to Vince.

All I can say is politics makes strange freaking bedfellows.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_endorsement

To the former "SVreader": posting under a new name doesn't disguise the fact that you are clearly unhinged.

Give it a rest and get a life. Hillary can't win. It's over. You want to go vote for McCain, that's fine. There are plenty of voters ready to elect Obama.

P Diddy - "Is there a more "elitist" commentator than George Will?"

Barack Obama?

Hillary wasn't even ready to run a proper primary campaign. She is 10.3 million dollars in debt! It is clear she doesn't have what it takes.

Bob Novak, George Will, and Charles Krauthammer are hardly impartial observers in the Democratic race. Will's comments about the "elitism" charge were, in particular, ludicrous. Is there a more "elitist" commentator than George Will?

In the Washington Post, Novak writes:
"Now, they wonder whether the appealing unifier is really a divider."

"Obama is trying to change the subject, but he lost his cool demeanor when ABC News questioners Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos returned to his San Francisco statement, among other difficult issues, in the debate. In watching campaign debates dating to Kennedy-Nixon in 1960, I never before had seen a candidate criticize the moderator or challenge his premises so often (at least eight occasions). "Look, let me finish my point here, Charlie," said Obama, after Gibson interrupted him following a 126-word answer. "

"The other unprecedented element was the deluge of abuse heaped on the two ABC moderators by media reporters, television critics and political writers."(by Obama campaign)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/20/AR200804...

Play or get out of the kitchen: Obama is hurtling those pots and pans as if he had something to worry about tomorrow!

There are two good arguments for some sort of national health insurance. The first, the "liberal" argument is that it is the moral thing to do. The second, however, is strictly an economic argument. We currently spend 19% of GNP on health coverage, an unsustainable amount, as it is increasing at better than 10% per year. No other Western country spends more than 5% of GNP on health coverage and those with single source, single payer programs have both better service and their costs run more to 3.5% of GNP. We will, like it or not, be forced into a single source Scandinavian style system within 10 years simply becasue private business cannot afford to offer medical benefits and our country cannot afford to pay 20% or more of GNP on it. ALl of this, though, assuming we even survive the Second Great Depression, which is very much in doubt.

mlbrooks, do you have source citation for this comment: "all of those speeches about the average contribution being from ordinary people, when they really come from Wall Street"

I do agree that McCain is moving to position himself as a "true conservative" in the center-right mold. Remember, however, that his primary is over and his pandering to the right is also over. Obama, once he dispatches Clinton, will be able to move closer to the center as well when his primary pandering to the left is no longer necessary. This is presidential politics in a nutshell.

I haven't completed my analysis of state-by-state voting yet (yeah, I'm a real politics nerd), but there are some Southern states (MS, LA, SC) that could go Obama if he can get a 15% greater African American turnout. The others are solidly GOP. MS, in particular, was (relatively) close in the last election. I think OH goes Republican, but PA will go Democrat. FL, as usual, is anybody's guess. The elderly vote there is too unpredictable in a McCain/Obama matchup. I have to believe that McCain did himself no favors with his Medicaid Prescription Drug comment on "This Week" yesterday.

I think the close Democratic states (IA, MN, MO, MI) could stay Obama. The thing that REALLY should piss off Obama voters (I'm one of them) is Clinton's disingenuous assertions about MI and FL votes. Her re-vote proposal was unfair and she knows it, yet when she went "nuclear" on Obama and cast him as "disenfranchising" MI and FL voters, she could have poisoned him in the general. That's a close one to watch, and I hope pollsters keep track of Clinton voters in those state and where they go. If she costs Obama the 2008 election (by causing him to lose MI) because of her actions in the primary, she would be screwed in 2012.

Both Obama and Clinton will be unelectable in the Fall if we don't come together. I assume we will.

Posted by: birdman | April 21, 2008 4:20 PM
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Amen. Both canidates will also work to elect the winner, too much as you say is on the line with McNasty.

Canada's health care is the best north of the US. We re proud of our x-ray machine and have our eyes peeled for a good used MRI.

Like everyone following the primary, I am getting tired of the sniping, negativity, arguments about electability, etc.

I prefer Obama and will be voting for him in the South Dakota primary BUT I will vote for whichever is the nominee. Either would be heads and shoulders better than McCain and endless war, endless tax cuts and deficit spending, far right supreme court justices and whatever other issue is important to you.

Both Obama and Clinton will be unelectable in the Fall if we don't come together. I assume we will.

Greg in Canada, I would be interested to know how satisfied you and your family are with the govt run healthcare there in Canada.

Do you think it's a good value for the huge tax burden you pay?

Like everyone following the primary, I am getting tired of the sniping, negativity, arguments about electability, etc.

I prefer Obama and will be voting for him in the South Dakota primary BUT I will vote for whichever is the nominee. Either would be heads and shoulders better than McCain and endless war, endless tax cuts and deficit spending, far right supreme court justices and whatever other issue is important to you.

Both Obama and Clinton will be unelectable in the Fall if we don't come together. I assume we will.

I am always wary about old people's cooking. They tend to forget to wash their hands after using the bathroom and head straight for the cookie dough. Vote Obama. Clean hands and great jump shot!

<<Former White House press secretary and Fox News Channel host Tony Snow is joining CNN as a political contributor, the network announced.

<<"In the White House, Tony brought a remarkably human touch to the discussion of public policy, which he will continue to do as part of the best political team on television," CNN president Jon Klein said announcing the move. "He will contribute a unique breadth of political and journalistic expertise to what is already the most provocative and wide-ranging political analysis on the air."

First Bill Kristol to the NY Times, now Tony Snow to CNN.

Seems that MSM is covering its bets on McCain, doesn't it?

I love it that svreader's credibility is so low, even HE has taken to not signing his posts with his real signature.

He's the perfect running mate for "Run Hillary Run" Clinton.

The Daily Kos, a Liberal media venue, Pro-Clinton blogger Tom Watson writes:

"A writer's strike at DailyKos is the latest symptom of a fast-moving infection in the progressive blogosphere - the all-too-real political fissure driven by online bullying that shows no signs of healing by August. Does this virtual walk-out presage the real thing in Denver? Too early to tell, but the real anger among Democratic bloggers who do not ardently support Barack Obama swats down the dismissive conventional wisdom of "they'll come back in the end" - at least for now."

Watson details the larger issue:
"The resentment among non-Obama backers is growing rapidly - you can see it in the comments here, and I can see it in my emails. There's a real split among party activists, and it's getting wider.
Some of it is motivated by the media's love affair with one candidate - and hatred for the other; Keith Olbermann's embarrassment drove many over the edge. But much of it comes from boorish, Stalinist behavior online - the kind of "you're either with us or against us" attitude we saw so much of when the Bush crowd was flying high. It's disturbing, particularly because so many of the targets are women. This is not the Democratic Party many of us have worked for; this is not the progressive blogosphere we've supported.
On the other hand, bitterness in this race can be seen all around. Where progressive and moderate bloggers and commenters used to get worked up arguing about George Bush, there is now a real angry, scolding tone in many comments left by Clinton and Obama supporters."

http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/hillary-clinton/18411/daily-kos-blo...

Technically, this ad represents a major flip-flop for Hillary Clinton. In the early 90s she stated that if you can't stand the heat maybe you should get INTO the kitchen and bake some cookies.

The "powerful and moving images to again raise questions about Sen. Barack Obama's readiness for the job of president" should have included Hillary Clinton running low, gun in hand, across the tarmac with Chelsea and Sinbad in tow to avoid, and possibly return, sniper fire.

She'll be that kind of president you know - ready on "DAY ONE"!!! We'll be in good hands.

Hiliary knows her constituency well. The only place that ad could work for her is PA. Their history of voting for fear mongers is part of the record. Reagan, Bush and Bush. But I would hope that PA voters after, all the lies and let downs they have had with their previous election choices, will be more savvy that Hiliary has calculated. Vote smart this time PA!

Who needs liver pills! Vote Obama!

Interesting that Hillary would approve an ad that brings up the two wars that we're fighting....she does realize that she's partly responsible for our presence in Iraq, right? Or is she still claiming that her vote on the "AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ" was really a vote for enhanced diplomacy?

Nationwide market competition leaves many people uninsured, and allows the insurance companies to decline coverage because of pre-existing conditions (many of which, because of cost constraints, are becoming increasingly ludicrous and touching an increasing number of Americans). This is the current state, and is an untenable position.

There has to be a middle ground between full entitlement program (Obama/Clinton plans) and total free market (current state of affairs).

Again, I think Americans SHOULD pay for health care, and I don't think garnishing wages or creating a program that dispenses health care is the right thing. Creating a program that enforces a law which ensures equity seems to me to be a prudent thing to consider.

If I were the Obama campaign I'd take her Bin Laden ad and run it nearly as is, except I'd add the debate clip of her whining about "always get the first question".

Just to let everyone know I did not post this below. Wait for my response next post.

VAMMA
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If you are not a feminist, bad things happen. Look at the YFZ women. Hillary told you women 15 years ago that it is bad for women to stay home and bake cookies. Did the YFZ women take her advice? Where did that end them up?

Pennsylvanians - many of you are Amish. I have seen "Witness." Listen to Hillary, or you will all be like the Amish.

Posted by: VAMMAP | April 21, 2008 4:06 PM
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The last thing America needs is a depends malfunction during an important moment at 3:00 AM. Stay clear of the oldies and vote Obama.

more con lies - "Reality: Most of the tax break will go to corporations, not families."

Most tax breaks tend to go to those that pay the taxes. Over the past five years, Exxon Mobil's total U.S. tax bill exceeded its U.S. revenues by some $19 billion (in 2007 Exxon's tax bill was about 30 billion in taxes). That's billion with a "B". To further put it in perspective, according to the IRS, there are about 134 million individual income tax returns filed yearly, and the amount of federal income tax collected by the bottom 50% (67,000,000 taxpayers) is about $28 billion per year. Therefore, Exxon Mobil pays about the same amount in taxes as 67 million individual taxpayers! It is about enough to fund the combined budgets of the Department of Agriculture ($19 billion), the FDA ($2 billion) and the EPA ($7.6 billion) or equivalent to the entire GDP of countries like Luxembourg, Guatemala and Qatar.

If you are not a feminist, bad things happen. Look at the YFZ women. Hillary told you women 15 years ago that it is bad for women to stay home and bake cookies. Did the YFZ women take her advice? Where did that end them up?

Pennsylvanians - many of you are Amish. I have seen "Witness." Listen to Hillary, or you will all be like the Amish.

P Diddy writes "nor do I believe the government should be in the business of health insurance. I stated that unequivocally."

And yet, also advocates this

"- Create a completely independent National Health Board that will set a national rate schedule for the maximum an individual can pay for basic coverage

- Have the same National Health Board set a national rate schedule for the maximum an individual can pay for the same coverage Members of Congress get."

So....you don't want the government to be in the business of healthcare, but you want to create a new, gigantic beaurocracy for the govt to be in the business of healthcare.

Is this some kind of post-healthcare healthcare plan? Sort of like Obama's post-partisan, partisan politics?

Here's the point - if the earning power of insurers is determined by federal regulators, their pricing will be too, and thus they will evolve into the equivalent of public utilities. Would you rather have medical prices set by fiat or by nationwide market competition?

Chief Jimmy Joe Red Sky, we play-um fair and square. Yes, yes, yes, many thanks to Chris Dodd.

To the ignorants who are posting about Socks and Buddy ... so? Are you really saying that you can judge someone's character by the way they treat their pets?

I have kicked my dog many times - Hillary clearly understands that is what they are for.

P Diddy - A prediction. The economy will *dominate* as no other issue in this country's history come November. McCain will wage a campaign critical of Wall Street and corporate crooks and against "free trade". No one believes this right now, but McCain is already making remarks like this and is moving this direction. Pay attention! Obama will be the nominee and all of those speeches about the average contribution being from ordinary people, when they really come from Wall Street, will come back and bite him along with his "bitter" remarks. I expect him to be utterly destroyed in the general election. To be perfectly fair, the same thing would happen to Cltinon, only more so.

Desperation, sometimes brings the worst out of people. Political desperation, always bring the worst out of people.
The Clinton's could write a book about it!.

The first sign of self distruction is the allergice reaction to the truth.

Men are vile pigs! Rise Hillary, rise.
Clinton '08

"Indeed, the only management experience she does have, managing the campaign, has been a mess." This is a patently false statement. She also has significant experience managing an executive effort to reform health care.

Leichtman, I think he was responding to my post above.

KITCHEN SINK

Speaking of.....Michael Moore came out for Obama today, calling Clinton's tactics "digusting."

The ultra-Lib Huff Post came out with the endorsement today-- right before PA-- just another hefty appliance to add to the kitchen sink of endorsements, another weighty consent in an attempt to blow Clinton off the electoral map.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/21/michael-moore-endorses-ob_n_977...

I thought Obama didn't do kitchen sink?

Who should win the Democratic Nomination?

Facts:

Who has run a better campaign?

Who has lost more advisors during their run for the White House?

Who should have won already with all that experience?

Who has paid their bills to vendor's on-time?

Who has fabricated so many stories that they have no credibility anymore?

Whose spouse ran for President as Two for One? We can expect the same again.

Who is willing the drag the Democratic Party down?

Just my thoughts

I guess the winner is BILLARIES CLINTONS
THEY ARE OWED THE NOMINATION NO MATTER WHAT.

See you guys at the convention.

Her Delegates for the 37th District in California wont be able to attend the Convention because they sent their 73 people to the wrong place the seat the delegates. Obama had 311 people voting. I just happen to meet a young lady from the Cliton site and she told me what happened. She was trying to see what happened with Obama so she could go report back after I told her how may people we had she put her head down and put a sweater on and went in to see for herself.

Obama 3 delegates will be there since wee took the time to check the zip-codes for everyone that came to vote before giving them a ballot.

Damn can anyone in the Clinton campaign do anything right?

Paradox of the Day:

Clinton berates Obama for saying McCain would be an improvement over Bush; meanwhile, with her shameless Be Afraid tactics, she proves she would not.

Has any one seen my wits around here. I am afraid I cut and pasted them during my rounds?
I can't find them anywhere. My husband says i never had any but I didn't marry him for his intellect either.

snObama, if I promise to leave my bitterness and religion behind, can I move to the big city and become one of your favorite people? would I have to shave?

Sorry, typo in my last post..."340,000" should read "300,000".

exactly where is this coming from, obviously not from anything I or any blogger has posted here?

"So, according to the liberal worldview, insurance companies (who are actual - brace yourselves- comanies designed to make money) are not allowed to use risk evaluation to determine rates."

Conservative view of insurance carriers: they are allowed to collect premiums and raise them even when someone does not have an auto wreck or their community has not been in a hurricane for 10 years like mine, but the h*** with the homeowner or an injury victim of DWI accident who should dare make a claim. My first hand experience with insurance carriers who snicker when processing claims, b/c they know they currently have the GOP in their back pocket and know they currently can do whatever they want to claimants.

I just got the same data, 2012...looks like a victory for Clinton is assured at this point. If numbers so far have been accurate, about 60% of the 200,000 new voters are Obama supporters. That puts Clinton's victory in the 340,000 vote range. If you estimate 2M votes cast (aggressive), that's in the 2-4% range. To be safe, I'll put my bet on a 5% victory for Clinton.

I did not get data on a District-by-District basis, as that's where the money really is: PA awards delegates by District, I believe.

Either way, as with all primaries to this point, Democratic turnout will be huge. More Americans are engaged and involved with this election than ever before, and they lean Democratic. I still can't foresee a scenario where McCain is competitive in November (absent a huge Swiftboating).

So they already stole the "red phone ad," and now they are stealing Johnson's nuclear fallout ad. What a joke. These two are the ghosts of pathetic politics past dry humping the corpse of Lee Atwater.

Now raising more money is a sin. Hillary is a truly dispicable candidate - the kind I hope America never sees again. Her campaign has dented my faith in human nature badly and I just want her GONE.

Obama and his supporters underestimate McCain.

Hillary Doesn't.

She can stand up the Republican attack machine.

Obama can't

She can think on her feet.

Obama can't.

She can hire David Axelrod after Obama drops out.

She can hire Obama's Speechwriters.

Obama can't grow a new brain.

Hillary can beat McCain.

Obama can't.

And the other King of WAPO Pro Barack Obama
Spin Chris The Jerk is hard at work to do
his idiotic best of making Obama the New
Messiah and Hillary Clinton the Devil in
person,so that WAPO Fearful Leader Freaky
Freddie will be happy again today..Yep
Chris you silly gurlyman you living proof
that even Fox News is more "Fair and Balanced" then WAPO! Where's Osama bin Laden? Ask fellow Muslim Barack Obama and
Obama is not telling! No to Obama in 2008.

Did I hear a toilet flushing? Oh, it's just the Clintons taking their new place in the party.

I hope Hillary remembered to darken Obama's skin tone in the video, like she did in that other ad.

Clinton will score a clear victory tomorrow. Clinton will win PA by 357,000 votes.

Internal from both camps are showing undecided vastly moving towards Clinton than Obama.

Biggest remaining caveat in PA has to do with about 200,000 new registered democratic voters. How disproportional these new voters will move to Obama?

People shouldn't feel sorry for ME. People should feel sorry because many people in this country are denied coverage outright, which is amoral, to say the least. I am fine, and will be forever. It does not mean I should sit on my butt while insurance companies rape and pillage those less fortunate.

Again, I do NOT believe the government should be handing out health insurance, nor do I believe the government should be in the business of health insurance. I stated that unequivocally. I am a free market capitalist, but I also understand and appreciate the government's role in ensuring that the free market is equitable.

To answer "proudtobeGOP"...As a successful businessperson, I can assure you that even with restrictions placed on the level of its greed, the insurance companies can STILL find ways to create differentiated offerings and market them effectively to people. All companies have to evolve with the times, and there's no doubt that the climate at present means that either the insurance companies give a little now, or they'll be forced to take on a health care entitlement that I (and many others) feel will be a disaster for this country and future generations.

(BTW, I'm glad to see a good discussion on this topic rather than the usual shouting across one another...I am very open to other ideas here, as, I hope, the eventual president will be as well)

Too bad John Edwards was not supported... he'd be a better candidate against McBush.

Trailing in PA, Obama put on his old Washington style political flip-flops and began bad-rapping his opponent, again.

According to the New York Times, "his willingness to air negative attacks in recent days suggest[s] he harbored hope of ending the Clinton campaign here or avoiding a major loss that would keep the race alive."

It demonstrates an obvious double-standard: say one thing, do another, right out of a political textbook: school yard, she did, he didn't.

The Wash Post says he is "Rewriting his script?" How about more tail-gating in backless rubber sandals--because, the Obama camp was double standarding way back in January.

Susan McDougal, still in jail for refusing to testify to a grand jury investigating the Whitewater scandal, is said to have been "Bonking Bill's" lover.

Posted by: Rob L. | April 21, 2008 2:22 PM
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Try checking your facts before you post.

'From September 9, 1996 until March 6, 1998, McDougal spent the maximum possible 18 months in prison for civil contempt.'

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We all need to FLOOD the internet with
details of the ((Balanced Budget Act 1997))
as to how inhumane much it has been
to the suffering poor of this Nation!
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JP2 - We can only hope you are wrong. And, BTW, the stats and info about hording and food shortages are from the European press (written by American's, they were censored from our corporate managed newspapers and television). Both Obama and Clinton are "free traitors" and are in hock to Wall Street and corporations up to their eyeballs. In his "bitter" remarks, Obama came right out and admitted that his campaign statements about "free trade" were simply empty nonsense, designed to appease the working class bubbas" that have seen their jobs outsourced. Well, again in the European press, there is a movement underway to peg oil to the Euro. It will take place this very summer and spark a panicky stampeed of foreign investment and Wall street capital from this country. Look for China and India to dump as much of their U.S. cash reserves as possible, as fast as they can, and watch our economy sink like a rock. The government is powerless to do anything in the face of this sort of collapse. It simply doesn't have the money. We will exit Iraq becasue we cannot afford it and the troops will be needed here becasue of food, racial (illegals will be scape goats), and job riots. This isn't science fiction, it is our immediate future, and no one from either party has any concept of how to deal with it. I figure John McCain might, and I mean only might, be able to salvage our nations survival. With either Obama or Clinton (or *any* other Democrat with the exception of John Edwards) you will get a lot of dead people and North America's own Somalia. Either way, "liberalism" and "neo-conservativism" and all of the other political blather is dead. By the time November rolls around, *everyone* is going to be trying to figure out a way to dodge catastrophy. You fools have no idea of the tomorrow you have created.

It's 3 am, and Hillary "misspoke" into the phone. Her husband says that's okay, because she's 60 and tired. Do you really want these two back in the White House?

She has the wrong kind of experience. We don't need more of the same old dishonest politics. Experience means little when character is lacking.

Enough of the Clinton campaign. First President Clinton with the race card, 8 close ups of her daughter during the horrible ABC debate to play the maternal card,now the scare card that the media will give her credit for working. She is supposed to win Pennsylvania and the numbers should not change her ability to receive the nomination. The math, the popular vote, the delegates, whatever are not there. Senator Clinton is standing in the way of history. Either Obama, or the oldest candidate McCain, that is the history naturally in progess to take place, not Senator Clinton as the first woman. There are plenty of women in politics who are better prepared than she to be President. She needs to get out of the way and let those women come forth. Democratic party has been held hostage by the Clinton mystique that is no longer there. Let them go.

Obama's campaign posted this video response to Hillary's bin laden ad. Why does The Fix link Hillary's ad but not Obama's rebuttal---hmmm.

YouTube - President Clinton responds to Hillary's "Children" ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW0m2nWB_M

Does anyone know any really filthy and hateful sites i can visit. As you know I cut and paste from all sorts of detestable places for your reading pleasure. I rarely offer anything original since my addled brain seems to be short-circuited. I am not sure if being a lib caused it or it caused me to be a Lib, but they are certainly related.

If you can't help, i will just continue to post from Kos, huff, Nation, Move on, media matters and the bottom of the hate barrel - olbermann. In a real pinch i often just scroll up a few posts here on the fix and use that with the names cleverly changed. Aren't I smart? who would have thought of that?

for example, if someone rites "obama is dumb"

I can change it to "bush is dumb" Isn't that the coolest thing you ever saw. LOL! sometimes I laff so hard I wet myself. No one seems to notice.

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

Obama can't win the national election.
What will he say when asked in a debate with McCain -

"Mr Obama, how many times did you purchase or use 'hard drugs' like Cocaine?"

Most Americans put cocaine in the same category as crack and heroin, they are "hard drugs"

Unless all Democrats care about is "making a statement", electabiliy is what matters in the end.

I'm one of millions of Democrats that will vote for McCain, and will strongly consider leaving the Democratic Party completely, if Obama is the candidate.

He does not represent "hope" to me, he represents shame.

I'm disgusted that the press treats him like a saint and a savior when his record both in Chicago and the Senate is based on taking credit for bills he never worked on, as documented by articles in the WP and the NYT.

I'm disgusted by the behavior of the members of the far-left cult of Obama joining with the members of the far-right to destroy the center by lumping Bill Clinton's administration with George Bush's.

I'm disgusted by Obama's below-the-belt attacks on Senator Clinton and by Obama's supporters relentless attacks on individual Clinton supporters.

I'm disguested by the Obama campaign's attacks on ABC for the "crime" of asking tough questions.

Obama is an arrogant incompetent.

He didn't do his job in Chicago and didn't do his job in the senate.

I don't trust him to have his finger on the button and neither do millions of other Americans.

I trust Hillary. I trust John McCain.

My loyalty is to America, not to any one political party.

If Democrats nominate Obama, they'll telling everyone like me who is in the center and believes that Bill Clinton did a great job for America that they don't care about us or our votes, just like they don't care about the people of Florida and Michigan.

I'm angry and bitter, but not because of anything Bill or Hillary Clinton did.

I'm angry and bitter that my party, the Democratic Party, has stabbed Bill and Hillary Clinton in the back and thrown them under the bus.

I'm angry and bitter that my party, the Democratic Party is so in love with he youth vote that they've lost all perspective and that they don't care about experience and competence.

I'm angry and bitter that the Democratic Party has been taken over by "moonies" and forgotten about the middle class and what we want.

I'm angry and bitter that David Axelrod has played the press like a cheap violin.

Did anyone else notice that the headlines about the race are identical in both the NYT and WP -

"Obama sharpens is tone"

Yeah, right.

If Obama's the nominee, McCain's the next President.

"P Diddy wrote: When I retired recently, I looked into purchasing coverage on the individual market. Because I take Zocor, I was denied and elected COBRA from my previous employer instead (at 3X the cost of an individual policy). Those insurance companies that do not outright deny coverage will instead charge a higher premium for those with pre-existing conditions. If you're older (I'm 34 and in perfect health otherwise"

So let me get this straight, you're 34, in perfect health except for high cholesterol and you recently retired (pause for dramatic effect)... you're RETIRED AT THIRTY FOUR and you want people to feel sorry for you because you have to pay too much for health insurance?! Go back to work F#$%Nuts

So, according to the liberal worldview, insurance companies (who are actual - brace yourselves- comanies designed to make money) are not allowed to use risk evaluation to determine rates.

Here's a hint libs: The leading cause of death in this country is Heart Disease.

ergo- if you take medication because you have atheroscleortic plaques in your coronary arteries, then you have heart disease and are at a greater risk of dying.

Under the lib logic, auto insurance companies shouldn't charge more if you drive a Porsche than if you drive a Cavalier.

Under the lib logic, people's whose homes are directly on a flood plain shouldn't have to pay more for homeowner's insurance and if their house got washed away 5 times before, they should never be denied coverage.

The federal govt should do something!
Barack Obama should fix all this, so people never have to pay anything ever again for what they want.

'It is not germane to the issues in this election.'

it IS germane because McCain is hiding his wealth, his many conflicts of interest and his elitism. This guy owns 8 homes and he calls Obama 'elite.' He's a poser and hypocrite.

I have no life. I just lurk on this board all day long. I am completely paranoid and loony and that's why I can't get a job. I obssess on imaginary people. I am an empty cipher.

Isn't being a republican drone fabulous? I say whatever rush tells me to. I really am that stupid.

The Cindy McCain issue is a red herring. John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry did the same thing. It is not germane to the issues in this election.

The portion that IS germane is the source of contributions to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Presidential Library. If you dig deeper, you'll find lots of connections to the Saudis and other oil billionaires. Further, the amount disbursed by the Clinton Foundation is pretty small. I'm not sufficiently well-versed on charitable foundations to determine if that's par for the course, or something devious. Someone else may be able to comment on that.

I love no sign in. It lets me be as loony as I want and bounce around from falsehood to fakery without attribution. I can be as many different kooks as I can imagine in my little pea brain, and that's a lot, there are so many voices in there. and the best thing is, none of it has to make any sense at all. Isn't being a Lib wonderful? you can be as stupid as you want and everyone just expects less.

Look for my ever so clever names in upcoming posts. I amuse myself all day like this. Fascinating aren't I? that's what they said at the institute also. but they couldn't hold me.

VOTE FEAR!
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Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.,and his wife Cindy speak at a press availability in Toledo, Ohio. Thursday, Feb. 21, 2008.
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Reading Sen. John McCain's, R-Ariz., personal tax returns, which the White House hopeful released today, you'd never know he's the Senate's eighth wealthiest member.

McCain's returns show he earned about $400,000 last year. That's well above the poverty line -- but well below the $27 million to $45 million reflected in McCain's Senate financial disclosures.

The secret? The vast majority of the McCain family wealth comes from Cindy, McCain's second wife, who is heiress to a fortune from her father, a beer distributor, whose firm she now chairs. Unlike the Obamas and Clintons, the McCains file their taxes separately -- and Cindy's returns are off-limits to the public, the campaign says.

and I would throw in the thousands spent for donuts for volunteers. But that was before a change in campaign management to be fair.

The Pentagon Channnel launched in May 2004. The idea was to provide military news and information to people on military bases. But the channel now reaches millions of households through commercial satellite and cable systems. Most recently, they announced a video-on-demand deal with Time Warner.

Most of the fare on the Pentagon Channel is harmless, and occasionally it can be quite interesting: profiles of service members, stories about life on the base or in Iraq, etc. The shows are anchored by active duty military personnel.

But increasingly the Pentagon is using this platform the way other governments -- say, North Korea's or Russia's or Cuba's -- use state-controlled television: as a tool to disseminate official information without any interference from a free press. This is actually happening more now, under Secretary Robert Gates, than it did under Rumsfeld.

Kind of sad that Obama doesn't have to wait until the general election to see the kind of scare tactics the GOP will use against him. This past month it seems more like two GOP candidates going against Obama than one GOP and one Democrat. The "well the republicans are going to do it to you, so I may as well first!" argument.

1) uses fear to tear down opposition; check

2) uses lies to project a false image; check

3) manufactures controversy out of thin air to avoid talking about the real issues; check

4) refuses to acknowledge that what you are doing is hurting, more than helping, that which you profess to love the most; check

GOOD JOB HILLARY!!

Retail gas hits record $3.50 a gallon as oil marches higher
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Was looking into Obama's social security comments (raise the limit on taxable revenue subject to the Social Security 6.2% tax) and found this:

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourmoney/socialsecurity/articles/eight_ways_to_keep.html

Anyone have enough experience to comment on how accurate the pro/con list is?

C'mon PENNSYLVANIA!! Give us a GREAT MARGIN!!

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