Three guesses who took Barack Obama to that "hate YT" (that's ebonics text for "hate whitey") mininster's church and the first two don't count. Michelle Obama is an angry woman who hitched her wagon to what she thought would be her meal ticket to bigger and better things. When that didn't happen fast enough to her likeing, Michelle got angry, resentful and dare I say it: bitter. The word on the street is Michelle got on Barack's butt to do better financially, so politics becames Barack's (and Michelle's) means to an end.

One of the reasons they are both out of touch with most Americans is they're both Ivy League educated elitists who believe (read that: KNOW, as in "legend in their own minds") they are better, smarter and know more than practically all of us. Part of their education was socializing with other young people who more likely than not came from well-to-do backgrounds. So you can't really blame them for internalizing that kind of "better than you," "holier than thou" attitude (typified and epitomized by the use of the term "Typical White Person"), that's just what they were taught and, as they keep telling us, they were good students. It is we the "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" that do most of the heavy lifting, the Michelle and Barack Obamas of our country do most of the talking and telling what to do. They feel that is their "place" and we, the working class, are where we belong in their eyes: they were born to lead and the rest of us to follow.

Who's idea do you think it was to buy that $2.65 million house and property (that Obama got for $1.7 million partially subsidized by Tony Rezko and his wife)? The Obamas probably have no idea what it's like to go without or do without because you've got to fill the gas tank to get to work five days a week. So it's easy to not relate to average people when you live that kind of lifestyle; for most elitist liberal types like the Senator and Mrs. Obama, their reality is completely the opposite of the everyday working stiff.

Barack Obama has been saying anything to get your vote, not doing anything though because he doesn't have it in him. (Can you believe he really bowled a 37?) When offered free coffee at a campaign stop in Indiana, Obama declined and said, "do you have any orange juice?" In Philadelphia, when Obama was offered a cheese steak (which pretty much is a ritual or rite of passage in Philly), he said, "maybe next time." Bill Clinton ate one at a campaign stop in '92 and won over the crowd. What's the point? Obama isn't the "everyman," he and his campaign staff would like you to believe, think elitist snob and you're closer to the mark.

They say behind every successful man is a woman, it would be an abomination to have that woman in the White House as the first lady of our country.

Obama to rich fundraisers:

Small Towners cling to Guns, Religion, and AntiImmigration and they are just Bitter.

By how many points bonjedi will Obama carry Pa and small towns in Pa?

His response; we can't confirm or deny the recording.

And that message will sound wonderful to small towns in wouthern Ohio. They are BITTER Sen Obama you owe thes folks an apology, now sir rather than looking down on these folks. People turn to Religion b/c they are bitter and frustrated with their lives?

Michelle Obama is a "Titanic" waiting to happen. I've noticed that she has been kept off the main stage lately, precisely because she is not only angry she is racist. How could any mother(and father) take their children week after week to listen to a man, Wright, (who denigrates another race and blames them for every terrible thing that has happened in the world and the USA) at a time when they are most vulnerable and are in their formative years. If we are to have a racial dialogue, it would be nice to have
people in that discussion who have not already been brain washed about everyone else (not like them) and taught to blame every evil on earth to that other race? This goes for both sides.Discrimination is discrimination no matter what the color of our skin and Michelle needs to take the high road, and stop her little rants of blame against whites and America.
I have had a gut feeling from the beginning about this lady
(and certainly about Obama)which not only make me uncomfortable, but raises questions about exactly who she is, and what her beliefs about being an American stem from. She echos what I've found so disturbing about Obama-who is this man and is his being black more important than being American? She projects the same.
It sounds like a broken record, but why
isn't the media digging into her background (and most particularly the land deal with the indited felon,her bank accounts, where she gets her money),
with the same avidity that they do with Bill C. But wait, they are so enthralled with Obama that that would be heresey. I have lost all belief that the press can and will report the unvarnished news and can keep the heck out of the campaign, with
very few exceptions. Thank God for Helen
Thomas, an old fashioned reporter who still writes it like she sees it-without prejudice.
Michelle Obama is a loose cannon and I don't want to think about that kind of angry personality who obviously has a lot of baggage she hasn't come to terms with, playing that out as first lady.

The number of comments here speaks for itself: She will never be a First Lady of whom we as Americans can be proud. She is an angry person and most of us cannot figure out just what it is that she has to be angry about. Ivy League education, married to US Senator, has high paying job of her own, young, healthy...what is she angry about? For all of her education and training, she has not learned when to close her mouth so as to let others wonder if she is really as foolish as she appears. She speaks and we are certain that she is a fool. No wonder the campaign keeps her somewhat in the background.

In October when the Republicans start raking Michelle over coals. We Democrats will find out some unplesant things about Michelles time at Princeton, which the mainstream press has been hiding. When the Republicans start the "swift boating", her papers from Princeton will be on every news media and McCain will walk into the White House. Somehow I knew the Democrats would find a way to lose the election!

We used to have a comedian who frequently shouted: " I have a BIIIIIG mouth. My guess is that if (God forbid) Michelle Obama becomes First Lady, we will hear that saying frequently. She "speaks her mind regardless of the consequences." That, for a politician OR the wife of a politician can be dangerous and could ruin a Presidency. I hope that, for the good of the country if Obama does win it all, the people around them will be smart enough to put a big mussel on her.

The reason Barrack Obama attended a church of black anger was because his wife insisted on it. The weak answer he gave for not rejecting the hate America stance of Reverend Wright indicates a reluctance to reveal the motive behind his temerity. And what would motivate a person to stay where he knew he would face a political barrier if he was to seek national office? He had only the pacification of his wife to gain.

I forgot to add, Michelle doesn't like America and isn't proud of it unless she is the wife of a man who could be president. I don't want her in my White House nor Reverend Wright.

I believe Michelle Obama is an example of affirmative action. She has had the best of everything in this country, even though she married a man who was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii and never really was exposed to all that except that he got the benefit of affirmative action. His scholarship to Harvard (he is smart), and that offer of that job with that really great law firm that brought him to Chicago where he met Michelle. Of course, he (like Clarence Thomas) won't admit the benefits he received from affirmative action. He says he did it himself. He claims he went to Chicago for the Steelworkers. That is blatant propaganda.

If you listen carefully to the clip of Michelle Obama, you will hear that she didn't say "really proud". That is spin put out by her husband's supporters. She just said "proud".
Why don't you discuss her dissertation written at Princeton. It is available on the web?
Why don't you discuss the number of people she's fired as a hospital administrator?
There are people mad at her for being fired both in Chicago and in Colorado.
Why don't you discuss the fact that she was on the board of a supplier of Walmart? I looked at her husband's financial statement for the Senate. They own a number stocks of that supplier, but somehow weren't able to determine the worth of that stock. I thought you had to declare a value every year when you file income tax.

Sherry Kay , too funny...I agree...quite creative

Like Michelle Obama, I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. My parents worked hard, raised respectful kids, went to church, instilled a love of our fellow man and learning. No Ivy League schools came looking for us. We were white. It was a struggle but we managed to graduate & become a doctor, physicist, teacher and engineer. The whole race thing needs to stop. It is about class. It is about culture. Just look at how many Vietnamese kids came to our shore without a word of English & end up as Valedictorian several years later. We must all, every "group" in America, concentrate on learning. No excuses!

mnteng- Agree Completely

Associated Press in the Star Tribune, Minneapolos, St Paul today.

HUGE MO FOR HILLARY- Stops short of endorsement, but I think it's going to make a difference, up her numbers...

Elizabeth Edwards endorses Clinton's Health Care Plan-

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/17420424.html

Don't like her.

RACE is not the issue.

Michelle Obama brought it into the campaign.
She gave impressions of black anger, Wright advanced it,

Obama is a flat tire.

We do not need the racial divide he will bring (altho he is white, he is part of a belief system that dislikes the white race). He is simply not worth the risk in a Presidency. His performance is too unknown.

Michelle is not in the league of FIrst Ladies (again, no matter the color) ... she has expressed a DISLIKE for a faction of this country's citizens. Poor judgement.

A person's future actions are measured by their past actions. She has no apparent history of social work to demonstrate that she CARES about the citizens of this country...OTHER THAN racial issues.

This country is bigger than that.

I am Native American Indian descent.
It has to be said that anger is not productive.

Much in this stream represents what is worst about american politics in the hate and disregard for or even worse the distortions of facts here. Thus people who have never heard Michelle Obama speak and know no one who knows her, think they know all about here based on a few words she have uttered. Those words were a political blunder precisely because of they way they allow partisans to characterize her based on almost no information What have we heard from Michele that has been angry, and why should she be with a job that pays $300k, two lovely children and a husband who may be President But we live in a world where truths people don't want to hear, whether uttered by Clinton,McCain or Obama or his wife get pounced on rather than carefully considered and responded to with thought rather than hateful emotion. This, of course, answers my question above. Michele should be angry and all decent people should be too because of the trashing she is taking from people who know almost nothing about her and don't really care about her but have a passionate desire to prevent her husband from being President. Our political discourse is thus substantially by people who care only about power and not a whit about truth or fairness, as much of this stream emphasizes. And it is not just the would-be Obama destroyers who do this. McCain and Clinton have also been targets though as of this point of nothing as extreme as the vituperation and distortions directed at the Obamas.

The interesting issue for discussion on which this conversation began is whether the Obama campaign made a mistake in lowering his wife's profile. Given how people seem to react to her in person, I think they did but views can differ.
Then there is the defender of McCain's health insurance plan who uses the example of a person earning $100,000 to support his argument, perhaps because the person earns so much $100000 seems like a normal average income. In fact, it would probably place a person in the top 5% of all earners. An insurance program that will work in this bracket won't work for most people.
Finally, there is the much mooted question of Christ's middle name. The "H" stands for Hallmark, as everyone knows, because God cared enough to send the very best.

the DEMs have one ticket to the Presidency.
Hillary Clinton.

PAY attention to the clues, voters.

Clinton is soft on Obama missteps. GOP will not be.

RACISM will not be tolerated in the 21st century. TOO much hard work has been done to eliminate it.

Obama is racist (heed the clues). He's not worth the risk. He has NO history of substance to bank on for this Presidency. It's a herculean task and a time when we need solid leadership most.

What a puff piece. This should be held up as an example for lefties in journalism school.

Michelle Obama: First Ho.

It makes me sick to my stomach that such a misguided woman could actually represent U.S. Very telling that she's out of the spotlight. I'm sure the handlers don't want the American people to have too much information about her until after the primaries.

vammap:

You're right -- for the majority of white Americans, race is not the issue. But if race affects 5% of the white voters (Rendell's estimate), that can be the difference between winning and losing a state, especially since whites make up ~85% of the electorate, as you point out. Rendell's 5% would never vote for a black person, regardless of who it is.

Blacks certainly are entrenched as well, and the Democrats should be thankful for that -- they have been a very reliable vote for the Dems for decades. But they've never had the chance to vote for a viable black candidate for President, so their flocking en masse to Obama is not surprising. Especially for the older ones who grew up in segregated America.

"Largesse vs. cost-effectiveness. That is the real choice here."

When you factor in the waste in our expense budget, the astronomical sums being spent annually on bases, arms, etc..
beginning a program to make sure everyone in our country is covered by some health insurance program, particularly our fighting men and women, our children, families in need, it makes the Republican position atypical .. when it comes to providing at any cost..for the few, not the many...
Congress has a health care plan; Americans must have one too..

Didn't read the article.

Blacks are just as entrenched. We tend to vote for people we feel aligned with..

My point is that a different Black candidate might be able to jump the divide in PA and in other states where he did not do as well with white voters.

I really believe that for most Americans, white Americans, particularly Democrats, race is not the issue.

vammap:

Did you read the article and my post? My comment had nothing to do with either candidate, but entrenched views of the voting population in PA.

From the article:
"Whites who said race was their top consideration or an important factor preferred Clinton over Obama by 63 percent to 32 percent. Those who said race was not consequential backed Clinton by a narrower 11 percentage points."

And if Ed Rendell is saying that there is a significant population in PA that won't vote for a black person, who are you to question him? He's probably one of the savviest politicians ever to come out of PA. Are you saying you know his state better than him?

Thasan--

There was no OOOOOOO or AHHHHHHHHH about the statement when it came out of her mouth.

I think you're beyond help......

"Sad, but true. The Commonwealth founded by William Penn still breeds intolerance."

Black 10.7%
White 85.7%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42000.html

These are pretty close to the USA breakdown.
Your statement is ridiculous. Whites dominate demographically. The problem is that Obama JUST isn't crossing racial lines. He isn't cutting the mustard and breaking out because that demographic has yet to be changed..meaning he may not be the Black candidate to do that. He's already showing himself as much less the hope and much more the audacity.

I would like to try to give some clarity to Ms. Obama's controversal..please excuse my typing.. i dont have much time...

When Sen. Obama first announced he was running for Pres. I and thousands and thousands of Black people did not know, or care. I didnt find out until a week before the first primary..and even then the general concensus was -who is this Black guy kidding? America isnt gonna vote for him! He's Black! He cant be a President of USA.. White people aint havnt it!..Of course.. it was inevitable that you'd hear the man speak eventually and after that:::hook, line, sinker. Period.To top things off.. Sen Obama started winning even the most "whitest" of white states.. States where i've personally have been racially attacked..This alone changed the the opinions of many.. including myself.. And i thought.. whoa.. maybe America is ready, maybe he has a chance, and for the FIRST TIME IN MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE.. i was proud of America..more and more by the day in fact. Now. Me saying that statement doesnt have the OOO and AWW impact as when she said it because my husband is not running for president.. nor is my husband rumored to have Evil Muslim ties, or Anti-American/NonPatrioticness in him. No one is looking for a guilt free reason not to vote for MY husband based on his skin, and blah blah blah... No..No one is taking my comments(the same as hers) out of context here because I do not pose a threat to what some Americans are used to. And she is saying in spite of all that.. America is still supporting him and that he may likely.. no.. he WILL be the next Pres.of the United States because there are Americans who are craving change and are broad-minded and have evolved. THIS IS WHY SHE IS PROUD!!! please quit getting it twisted! In fact, it was mainly because of this woman and they way her face lights up and the stong way she supports and speaks about this man(that i've never met or probably ever will)is why he has my vote..This woman has the kind of pride for her man in her eyes that Bill could never have!Thank you for your time

IF' MRS, OBAMA,, DONT WATCH OUT THE SOFT MONEY THAT COMING FROM [OPRAH]
MEAN ONE THING MRS, OBAMA. IS SOON
TO BECOME MISS, HOUSE-KEEPER; IF SADAM
IS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF A COUNTRY HE
HATE.S HIM AND HIS HIGH PREACHER, WANT;S TO RENAME IT LITTLE AFRICA,
THEY WERE TOO SORRY; TO FIGHT FOR IT
NOW TGEY WANT TO PUT BRO, WRIGHT AS
VICE PRESIDENT. AND [OPRAH] AS FIRST
WOMAN THAT EVER BOUGHT A SEAT' FOR
HER AND[ SADAM HUSSEIN OBAMA]

Only in America,would we have a totally
psychotically insane,hateful mouthy black
racist,black panther wannabe like Barack
Hussein Obama's wife Michelle Obama out
running her crazy big mouth and spewing her
endless racism and anti-American and her
open hatred of white people and get away
with it and all only because her husband
that pathological liar cocaine user loser
Barack Hussein Obama is running for President and I for one damn well donot
want either one,Barack Obama or Michelle
Obama ansering the hotline phone at 3am or
do I want "Uncle" (Rev) Jeriamiah Wright
Sleeping In The Lincoln Bedroom and old
Windsurfer John Kerry as Sec of Defense,
and Democrat Congressman Cold Cash Jefferson as Sec of Treasury and Chicago
Slumlord Tony Rezko as Sec of Housing and
Urban Development among others, do you?
Just say NO to Obama and Obama and Stooges.

"Need More Whites'

By Jake Tapper

The problem, and it seems to be one they both own is that the larger % of the pop, which is white, DO NOT feel at home with either of them.
Obama has a significant white problem!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/we-need-more-wh.html

Posted by: | April 9, 2008 10:33 AM

Since dropping two whopper comments that have turned many Americans off to her husband, the campaign has relegated her to a lower profile, much like Elizabeth Edwards and Theresa Kerry before her...

She's not running, so the only thing that matters is that we know, she, like many other blacks, or people who feel they have been disenfranchised, carry with them a kind of belligerence..not a positive..but certainly she'd have to overcome that to truly be a role model...

"Need More Whites'

By Jake Tapper

The problem, and it seems to be one they both own is that the larger % of the pop, which is white, DO NOT feel at home with either of them.
Obama has a significant white problem!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/we-need-more-wh.html

MarkInAustin:

You asked a couple of weeks ago about voter racial preferences in PA. Looks like the pollsters heard you ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/07/AR2008040701422.html?tid=informbox

Also, I saw a quote where Rendell speculated that if Lynn Swann were the same candidate, except white, he would have done around 5 points better in the PA governor's race in 2006.

Sad, but true. The Commonwealth founded by William Penn still breeds intolerance.

drindl, bsimon,

The Money.com article says this about the plans that Clinton and Obama have proposed:

"In practice, the system would quickly swell the ranks of Americans with government-paid health care. Remember, health-care costs are rising far faster than wages, so companies have a strong incentive to pay the tax and erase that rapidly growing burden from the books.

It's also likely that the government plan will offer better benefits than many, or perhaps most, corporate plans. In fact, the Democrats call for rich standard benefits packages based on the plan offered to federal employees.

Those packages would have deductibles of just $300 and offer prescription drugs, mental health benefits, and "spinal manipulations" (i.e., chiropractic services), among a cornucopia of other benefits. As a result, the federal plan, potentially packed with new benefits pushed for by lobbyists for various medical specialties, will quickly cause an exodus from employer plans.

The standard benefits package isn't just a bad idea because it will substantially raise the cost to taxpayers. It will also make it virtually impossible for Americans to buy insurance tailored to their needs.
(This is what you were arguing about over McCain's plan, drindl)

Suppose you're one of those 25-year-olds. You probably don't want to spring for a full-blown plan that covers old-age diseases like Alzheimer's and would rather save some money and go with a low-premium, high-deductible plan.

But the Democrat approach requires that any competing plans be "actuarily equivalent" (Clinton's term) to the federal employee plan - which translates as a generous minimum standard for health insurance. "With that mandate, you rule out high-deductible plans," says Gruber. "It would make it very difficult to design one that would qualify."

The Democrat proposals have some additional drawbacks. First, the Dems want to heavily regulate the insurance industry by limiting everything from profits to marketing expenses.

If the earning power of insurers is determined by federal regulators, their pricing will be too, and thus they will evolve into the equivalent of public utilities. Would you rather have medical prices set by fiat or by nationwide market competition?

Second, the Democrat plan exacerbates the fundamental problem in the American health-care system, which is that no one has any incentive to care about price. (How much is that MRI center charging for your ankle scan? Who cares? Just hand over the $50 co-pay and never you mind.)

Creating a huge new medical superstructure would shift far more spending to third-party providers, chiefly the federal government, giving consumers even less incentive to concern themselves with the price of an MRI - or any other service, from an elective wart-removal procedure to a life-saving heart bypass.

"The Clinton and Obama plans would enormously increase total health-care spending, but disguise the extra costs by shifting them to taxpayers," says John Sheils of the Lewin Group, a research firm that does statistical modeling for health-care plans.

Despite all that, the Democrats' plan probably beats McCain's if you're scoring on political viability.

Their program doesn't involve anything that smacks of a cut in benefits, and it's just easier to win with largesse.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/tully_healthcare.fortune/

Largesse vs. cost-effectiveness. That is the real choice here.

Me too!

Unfortunately I broke mine whilst between jobs and medically uninsured, and I couldn't afford the costs of repair.

It's why I'm so angry.

proudtobeGOP posts, from CNN
"Employers would no longer be able to buy more health care with $9,000 of their employees' money than the workers could buy on their own. The raison d'être for corporate health benefits would vanish."

That is not necessarily true. The tax incentive is only one reason employers are able to offer better healthcare at a lower price than is available to individuals. The second reason is pooling. Insurance rates drop as the coverage pool expands. Most insurance companies define pools based on insurance plan, which are typically all the employees of one company. So large companies enjoy low costs due to large pools. Small employers have higher costs because their coverage pools are smaller. Individuals pay the most because their coverage pools are smallest. The McCain plan, as it stands now, doesn't address this aspect of insurance pricing. As Mark in Austin notes, its a better start than the Dems are offering, but it requires additional tweaks before it'll be something worth implementing.

Her 'finally proud' comment aside, Michelle strikes me as angry. It tends to turn people off when an ivy-league brat really has nothing to be angry about. (Imagine the opportunity she's had, that many of us never/will never had/have!)
__________________________________________

Envy is one of the seven deadly sins.

"Imagine the opportunity she's had, that many of us never/will never had/have".

How about, the opportunity she EARNED, that many of us never/will never DESERVE.

I have family from Michelle Obama's neighborhood. These are middle-class/professional-class blacks for whom education is the mantra. Michelle Obama's no ghetto denizen who got in on AA. She's a smart woman who did well enough at Princeton to merit admission to Harvard Law. And she's black -- deal with it.

As for her anger -- should she give a pass to America's sorry racial history (and, judging from some of these posts, present) because by dint of her hard work and native intelligence, things are working out pretty well for HER?

So ironic -- Hillary's a congenital liar who gets a pass from CC and most of the media most of the time, while Michelle Obama is excoriated for being brutally honest. And Bill is a man of basically no morals whatsoever, but the media gets on Obama because he hasn't kicked cigarettes. Yeah, that's evenhanded treatment.

PS CC, do you EVER plan to examine the disconnect between extolling universal health care and not paying the health care premium for your STAFF when you've got $5 million to lend your campaign and you've got $109 million in income over the past seven years? Or are you just waiting for another video of Obama Behaving Badly? And THIS is the paper that won six Pulitzers. What are the standards at the losers?Sheesh.

obama's are liars,here are a few examples
OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES as of April 03, 2008
(68 lies and counting)
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife's pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it's $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said "Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did."
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton's and McCain's more than a year before!
60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.
61.) My wife didn't mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe's comments perfectly sync with Wright's, Meeks', and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren't there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama -- the day after sitting for the interview -- filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama's own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama's pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the "black" candidate. Read more here
66) I did not take money from oil companies: - LIAR - [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama doesn't take money from PACs. He also doesn't take money from lobbyists.
But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama's presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center's totals.
Two of Obama's fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News
67) "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial," Obama said at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. - LIAR - But yesterday, he told a different story. "Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes," he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.
68) Look at my education record in Illinois - LIAR - In reality, Obama never really championed the local councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf. When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate--against protecting principals from unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what. In the end, the resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn't alleviate anyone's concerns. Instead, it prolonged a turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since. Read more here. Source: slate.com

The Obama campaign has her chained up some where. As Willie Brown said, Obama won Iowa and lost NH because there Obama brought out his wife and children and the public couldn't take it.

She will help him lose in November, but I would put my money on it that Hillary will be the nominee. See the polls yesterday. White America is not going to vote for Obama.

you want to know who Michelle Obama is?

www.obamatruth.org

Do yourself a favor and become educated.

She's a angry,un-american racist.

Since dropping two whopper comments that have turned many Americans off to her husband, the campaign has relegated her to a lower profile, much like Elizabeth Edwards and Theresa Kerry before her...

She's not running, so the only thing that matters is that we know, she, like many other blacks, or people who feel they have been disenfranchised, carry with them a kind of belligerence..not a positive..but certainly she'd have to overcome that to truly be a role model...

'Say you're earning $100,000 a year '

exactly, proud. this apparently is your idea of an average salary in america. you're dreaming. the average american makes far less than this. no average person will ever in their lifetimes be able to set aside enough savings to pay for even one serious illness. you, like most republicans, live in lala land. you have absolutely no grip on objective reality.

mccain's 'plan' would do nothing but what it's supposed to do -- provide yet another tax break for the well off and screw the middle class out of what they have now, so that even fewer americans get any health care whatsoever.

any 'market-based' solution based on buying health care as individuasl will screw EVERYONE but the young and healthy-- and the middle-aged and chronicallly ill and disabled will just be left to die by the side of the road.

but that's just fine with republicans, that's what social darwinism is all about. it's a lot like eugenics. they beleive only the young, healthy, and wealthy deserve to live. and every social proposal they put forth reflects this.

As usual, lots of MSM sheeple commenting here, drawing conclusions about complex people based on MSM-decided sound bites and the revisionist history and civics taught in government schools.

SOMETHING ABOUT BARACK MAKES ME FEAR FOR OUR FUTURE, HIM AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN WIFE ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS ELECTION TO THE REPUBLICIANS, THE WHOLE PRIMARY STINKS BAD, like B O (body odor)

it Isn't odd that all the Hillary supporters are using the 'angry' word about Michelle? Glad to see they all got their orders from headquarters okay. Or is it one supporter with multiple names? ;-)

Everyone who keeps up knows Michlle is not an angry person, she's proud of her country, and she'll make a terrific First Lady.

Fascinating that some people believe Michelle is a hater. Watch her speak for forty minutes or so and get back to us on that. Here's the link to a RealOne Player video stream on C-SPAN's CampaignNetwork.org Web site.

rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/c08/c08_123107_obama.rm

Michelle regularly says in her speeches that the opportunities she enjoyed coming from a working class family would be impossible in any other country in the world. The "proud" comment that some enjoyed misunderstanding as a general statement, was clear to me to be referring to this country in a political context. But hey--if someone wants to believe the Obamas hate the U.S., they have no business voting for them.

As for me, I wait excitedly for the day when Michelle is First Lady, and those two girls of theirs are running around in the White House. That's going to be a strong positive message the rest of the world will understand, even if some U.S. haters can't.

Yes Red Sky, my brother, praise be to Chris Dodd! There is a place for him along side the Holy Ghost.

The statement"..Adult life, first time proud..." says it all for me. These folks are "Haters" is the only word I can come up with that describe them and some of the people closely associated with them. Even though this story has been out for more than a month, very few know about it due to the lack of it being reported to any extent by The Media.

Clearly Americans are afraid of strong women. The Obama campaign has capitalized on it for the primaries- but she is likely to face very similar scrutiny to what Hillary did do to the fact that she is very similar to Hillary in many ways. A strong, outspoken woman, proud and unafraid of pushing back when the "boys" push her around. I am an HRC supporter- but have nothing against Michelle- just note that the free ride is over if and when he is the nominee.

Clinton Campaign Owes UC Davis Money
Campus May Turn Debt Over To Collection Agency
Reporting
Steve Large DAVIS (CBS13) ― Bill Clinton may have charmed the crowd at UC Davis in January, when 7500 people showed up to see him, but charm has not covered the Clinton campaign bill.

The University of California in Davis is ready to take the Clinton presidential campaign to a collection agency if they do not pay back the thousands of dollars they are still owed.

Here's a breakdown of expenses:

- The UC Davis Marching Band cost $500.
- Cleanup services after the rally cost $250.
- UC Davis Police officers didn't come as cheap. The security bill is more than $5,600.

"I'm more than willing to be held accountable for it, because that's the way life is," Hillary Clinton said to a Montana crowd on Monday. There is no word whether she'll apply that philosophy here, or if she even knows about the outstanding debt.

Her Sacramento campaign office closed its doors after Super Tuesday, and her campaign spokespeople didn't return my calls.

UC Davis is planning to put its final bill out this week, and if the debt has not been settled within a month, they are going to turn the matter over to a collection agency.

(© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

Who is Michelle Obama?

Who cares!

Miao, Chris. I read through the 10 pages of the article, which depicted an admirably intelligent, open, and focused woman.

Which one would expect of a girl with no money and the extra handicap of race who managed to get into and thrive at Princeton, Harvard Law, and a big law firm.

Curious that the three quotes you took out emphasize only the drive. You've criticzed sexism in press coverage of HRC, but you don't see the mote in your own eye?

The McC healthcare plan is a welcome threadjack from a now threadbare topic.

I think McC's starting point is better than the Ds' b/c it moves us away from employer based health care and makes American industry more competitive. But I do think it needs
eventual tweaking.

This will be a difficult debate b/c the analysis is not sound bite simple.

your message svre was enough about GOP/McCain healthcare proposals, stick to the topic proudGOP.

my post this morning was that Michelle's relevance is that she is about as impt to this campaign as her kids. that's my story and I am sticking with it svre.

"McCain has put forward a comprehensive healthcare plan that is better than what the other two have proposed, according to many objective experts.

McCain's main pillar is the elimination of a tax break that employees receive if their employer provides their health care."

Objective experts like the Heritage Foundation?

Sounds like a huge tax increase and forcing employers out of providing healthcare not a union issue but a corporate compensation issue. Once again TAX manipulations do absolutely NOTHING to control costs nothing. There is nothing here that reduces premiums one penny or healthcare costs from rising 15% per year other than telling people not to use their healthcare for silly things like mamograms and colonoscopies. Its just if you are young we will let you buy cheap catastrophic coverage; if you are over 50 there is nothing to prevent Bluecross from denying you coverage b/c of pre-existing conditions, or allowing your carrier to negotiate for lower bulk purchases of drugs or to not have to pay $18,000 in premiums, maybe a tax deduction that will allow you to deduct your healthcare premiums instead of the 7.5% requirement for those itemizing, big whoop, but 1. Why are you so determined to end a corp benefit and 2. What does any of this have to do with the subject at hand. Last time I checked it was about Michelle Obama not the Heritage Foundation's latest tax stunt.Healthcare providers wouldn't like not having 'er provided coverage and there is no way these credits would provide anywhere the coverage of employers and end up pushing the uninsurred from 47 million to 100 million. Thanks a lot.Companies won't like it, healthcare providers won't and when the public learns their employer provider healthcare is gone you will see riots.

Two Dogs, About those bets... yeah, I lost it all on a lacrosse game, but it's a gonna be a great year. And I want to thank our local congressman, Chris Dodd, for giving us that lovely freeway off-ramp which got everybody to the casino in record time tonight!

Chris is this the Indiana Senator you suggested this morning as moving towards supporting Sen Obama? huh

Clinton's first Indiana campaign ad, which began airing this week, features Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.

Bayh says Clinton has a "spine of steel" and the nation needs a leader who'll fight for good jobs, for changes to trade deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, and for tax cuts for middle-class families.

I can verify for the living that Jesus's middle name is indeed Harold.

I can also fill you in on this: Obama will take the general election and Michelle will be the first black first lady. Do not place any bets. God gets pissed when you show up with such things on your permanent record.

The Tartan, Carnegie Mellon's student newspaper, reports on a campaign event featuring Michelle Obama: http://www.thetartan.org/2008/4/7/news/obama

"While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama's event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama.

The Tartan's correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, "Get me more white people, we need more white people." To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, "We're moving you, sorry. It's going to look so pretty, though."

"I didn't know they would say, 'We need a white person here,' " said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. "I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn't know it would be so outright."

The Obama campaign discriminates against people of color, and their own supporters no less, in what is presumably a misguided pander to white voters. Very strange, but perhaps Obama's candidacy really has transcended race in America (surely this is a first).

Alternatively, the campaign may just plan to stage-manage it out of public view."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#6345

We live in the 21st century, but many of our social norms languish in the 18th century. It is outrageous that we continue to demand silent obedience from our First Ladies.

I remember Barbara Bush being hushed when she said machine guns should be banned; and again when she remarked with some admiration that only in America can 300,000 women march on Washington in support of Roe vs. Wade.

Americans has been fortunate to have had many educated and intelligent First Ladies. With rare exception, rigid social norms silenced them on political and social issues that Americans grapple with every day. Any woman in America may voice her opinion--except, heaven forbid, the First Lady.

I welcome an intelligent, candid First Lady in 2008--be it Michelle Obama, Cindy McCain, or Bill Clinton.

leichtman, McCain has put forward a comprehensive healthcare plan that is better than what the other two have proposed, according to many objective experts.

McCain's main pillar is the elimination of a tax break that employees receive if their employer provides their health care. That may not sound like a shocker, but it is. The exclusion dates from World War II, when the federal government imposed controls on wages, but allowed companies to compete for workers by offering tax-free health benefits in lieu of pay. The law is largely responsible for the nightmarish patchwork of corporate-provided medical plans we enjoy so much today.

Employees and their unions demanded richer and richer packages, and employers complied, since they could buy far more benefits for their employees than workers could buy with after-tax dollars on their own. Americans have paid a steep price, however, by sacrificing their raises as corporate insurance bills exploded, never more so than now.

McCain suggests that we junk all that. Say you're earning $100,000 a year and your company provides about $9,000 toward your $12,000 family premium, which is about average. Today you're taxed only on the $100,000. Under McCain's plan, you'd also pay on the $9,000.

That could mean an extra $3,000 or so in federal taxes alone. To compensate for the extra levy, McCain would provide a $2,500 federal tax rebate for individuals and $5,000 per family, meaning a family would simply subtract $5,000 from its tax bill, the equivalent of a big cash payment.

Here's where it gets interesting. Employers would no longer be able to buy more health care with $9,000 of their employees' money than the workers could buy on their own. The raison d'être for corporate health benefits would vanish.

Employers have another compelling reason to pass the ball to the employee: While wages are rising around 3% ayear, their health-care costs are growing at three times that rate. "I predict that most companies would stop paying for health care in three to four years," says Robert Laszewski, a consultant who works with corporate benefits managers.

Hence, an employer that pays $9,000 for your benefits would simply pack an extra $9,000 a year into your paycheck. (Why? Because in a competitive labor market, companies would have to hand over that cash to employees or risk losing them.) So you'd have $6,000 after tax, plus the $5,000 family credit, to buy insurance.

That's $11,000 in new cash that employees can set aside for health care.

So what types of policies would they buy? Employees (and their families) with corporate plans - about 150 million Americans - would probably rush toward high-deductible, low-premium insurance, and use what's left over to pay cash for routine procedures.

They would couple those high-deductible policies with Health Savings Accounts, which allow families to put away up to $5,800 ayear, before taxes, for medical expenses. Those plans cost about $10,000. That's not a huge saving from the typical $12,000 corporate plan, but it's a start.

More than four million Americans already have HSAs, and the McCain plan would make portable, high-deductible plans the product of choice for a new generation of healthcare consumers.

Besides eliminating the employer exclusion, McCain's plan boasts another nice feature. It would allow consumers to choose an insurance plan that suits their stage of life.

If you're young and healthy, for example, you probably want the cheapest plan you can get. If you're 45 and have four dependents, maybe you want something a bit more expensive and generous. Nine states, including New York, California, and Texas already require that as many as 50 benefits be covered, a list that ranges from in vitro fertilization to mental health services to prescription drugs.

These requirements increase the cost of insurance; they're a major reason young people have dropped their coverage. Under the McCain plan, insurers in any state would be free to offer the plans with a vast variety of deductibles, co-pays and benefits.

UnitedHealthcare and Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans already provide a menu of packages tailored to groups as varied as Gen Xers and retirees.

As for the Democrats, the core of their plan is a "pay or play" option for employers. Large companies would have the choice of either providing benefits for workers or dropping their coverage. If they chose the latter, they would pay a mandatory payroll tax to support a new government-administered system.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/tully_healthcare.fortune/

The difference between McCain's plan and the Dems mandated and/or govt run plans are profound. What McCain is proposing is a lot more cost-effective and is a better longterm solution.

I have a few thoughts please bear with me:
If the country you lived in was responsible for slavery and racism against your people you'd have very little to be proud of too. These postings are indicative of the racist sentiment that this country still breeds.
Despite what religious group someone comes from or what opinions those around the Obamas have about race, it is unfair to assume that they share those thoughts. Their are many Christians who sit in congregations and are feed homophobic messages, who don't necessarily ascribe to those beliefs. So give me a break you can't possibly believe that race is the only thing that this pastor ever spoke of.
It would be interesting for citizens to begin to think beyond the racist and political barriers that have been set and actual respond to real questions.
Do you want change in America? If so why or why not?
If u don't want change, examine your priviledge, the priviledge of your people.
Then ask yourself are you being fair to minorities, to the poor, to the children who will lead this country in the future?
Ask yourself if every child has the same eduucational oppotunity from start to finish? Whether housing and health care is affordable for all?
Please dont be selfish, your duty as a citizen is to protect all not just the future of your own.
McCain was born in 1936, at the height of the civil rights movement he was an adult, where do you thinl he fell on the issue, has he ever responded with care or concern for the impoverished?
For all McCain supporters please tell me how McCain has been involved with US politics since 1983 and has no clue about ecomonics...What?!!! Thats crazy as all hell! At some point he should've learned something and that's scary, what can we expect from him in a 4 year term, now with the effects of old age impeding his comprehension.
Fear has hindered progress in this country for far too long, I charge you all to turn off the TV, eliminate the politcal jargon and get down to the heart of the matter, We need a change, one that McCain or the Clinton's cannot offer, Obama has a vision and the capacity to go beyond the norm that can be attributed to McCain and Clinton. Release all racist and religious
fears so that this country can move towards a stronger democracy and away from the fascism that has been practiced throughout our history!

THIS IS STUPID AND BIASED PIECE IN MY VIEW.

CHRIS YOU ARE BECOMING VERY ANTI-OBAMA BY THE MINUTE, YOU CAN'T EVEN HIDE IT ANYMORE.

ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE "NOW PROUD OF AMERICA" SMEAR

..........WHAT ABOUT CINDY McCAIN?

DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CINDY McCAIN?

CURRENTLY, McSANE IS CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENCY THAN CLINTON OR OBAMA SO WHY NOT TELL US ABOUT CINDY McCAIN AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, DO THE WRITING YOURSELF

THIS IS STUPID AND BIASED PIECE IN MY VIEW.

CHRIS YOU ARE BECOMING VERY ANTI-OBAMA BY THE MINUTE, YOU CAN'T EVEN HIDE IT ANYMORE.

ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE "NOW PROUD OF AMERICA" SMEAR

..........WHAT ABOUT CINDY McCAIN?

DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CINDY McCAIN?

CURRENTLY, McSANE IS CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENCY THAN CLINTON OR OBAMA SO WHY NOT TELL US ABOUT CINDY McCAIN AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, DO THE WRITING YOURSELF

GOP ever been unemployed, have COBRA end and have to turn to a state pool for covereage? Don't act like we are all idiots and have no idea how the healthcare system works. $18,000/yr for basic coverage with high dedutibles is insane again unless you are young and can buy cheap coverage the rest of us are otherwise drowning in healthcare premiums as is corporate America. Right GOP we are all out buying big screen tvs instead of healthcare, do you have any idea whatsoever how offensive that comment is?

The better question is "WHERE is Michelle Obama?" Seems like she has disappeared from the media coverage. Maybe the campaign is keeping her quiet since she is such a contrast from her husband, much more negative, angry.

first of all GOP a lot of companies don't
even offer hsa s unless you are young and healthy and with a minimum of $1100/mo in premiums, and they do little to pay our $1400/month premium. That is pretty arrogant of you to think that $18,000 in premiusms with high deductibles is chump change that skipping a burger will pay for. We can afford that but for most working Amricans that would amount to 1/3 of their income. Claims under hsa s are still claims for which hsa s do nothing to control or reduce costs of claims only to reduce necessary care, not just urgent cae, something the GOP has doesn't even comprehend about our current state of healthcare.

Leichtman

first of all GOP a lot of companies don't
even offer hsa s unless you are young and healthy and with a minimum of $1100/mo in premiums, and they do little to pay our $1400/month premium. That is pretty arrogant of you to think that $18,000 in premiusms with high deductibles is chump change that skipping a burger will pay for. We can afford that but for most working Amricans that would amount to 1/3 of their income. Claims under hsa s are still claims for which hsa s do nothing to control or reduce costs of claims only to reduce necessary care, not just urgent cae, something the GOP has doesn't even comprehend about our current state of healthcare.

Leichtman

Why in heaven would you write a blog on an article that is more than a month old? I can only think of one reason: Besides the MSM's promotion of Barack Obama, you want to up the ante and point your readers to a very favorable Michelle portrayal in The New Yorker.
What is going on here is too obvious.

drindl, I have been uninsured before. How about not expecting the government to fix everything, how about some personal responsibility, like USMC said... "Everyone who wants insurance ought to be able to get it, if they are willing to pay for it."

If people are unwilling to forgo what was once considered luxuries -like having the latest cellular phone or ipod or plasma tv or video game- instead of saving money in a health savings account to provide for their own healthcare expenditures, then that's not every taxpayer's problem.

The liberal idea of a single payer plan is a bad one. If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free.

I just find it interesting that they have kept Obama's wife out of the main stream media. I know she just started to campaign again, but outside of a local PA station she has not gotten interviewed about what she heard in that church. I know she's not running but she was his witness and if you google or search YouTube there are none.

JB should have been the D nominee.

We absolutely agree on that sentiment and why he should either be VP or secy or state.

And W is ready for more executive orders or signing statements HC asked about to bind the next administration mark.

leichtman

"BHO asked a good question, IMHO."

How are we safer?

I agree. It's a fair question.

Watched the SFRC all afternoon. JB should have been the D nominee. As always, I am impressed with Dick Lugar, and with George Voinovich. The witnesses were operating at an altitude where they had no authority in the sense that they do not make policy.

BHO asked a good question, IMHO.

"The truth is, if you don't have a job which provides health care in this country, you are up Sh*t Creek. No paddle provided."

I agree.

We need a solution.

In the period in between comissioning and going to TBS (my next stop), I had to wait 6 months. During that time, I was not paid by the USMC, nor was I covered. I took a temporary job in accounting, and I was uninsured.

It was a terrifying time because I had no savings (just student loans), and no insurance. I knew that if I broke my arm, I might not make it to/through TBS, and I'd be S.O.L.

Luckily, I never sustained an injury, but if I had, it would have been devastating.

I don't think government is the solution.

I'm (not-so) patiently waiting for a R to put forth a viable, market-based solution.

Everyone who wants insurance ought to be able to get it, if they are willing to pay for it. Several things need to happen first.

Maybe we don't know much because there isn't anything there. Let's all lay off, you know?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

...but to wrap up my point, I think it's true that she's angry at our society, and that there's lots of room to disagree with that - I do in many ways, despite my overall respect for her.

Yes, it's certainly easy for someone who has ironclad [free] health insurance to talk about what a great health system we have here.

Try being uninsured with a pre-existing condition sometime, proud, and then tell me about it. Try paying $5000 a month for crappy coverage and then tell me about it.

The truth is, if you don't have a job which provides health care in this country, you are up Sh*t Creek. No paddle provided. And there are fewer jobs like that all the time.

Just a minor major point. Michelle's anger (which I think is a very interesting theme harlemboy) does not amount to her "playing the victim card."

I can understand taking issue with her anger because you have a rosier vision of America and you think blacks get too many breaks. However, I've never seen her whine or cry about being victimized herself. The whole "victim card" meme has been applied too broadly in this election every time someone turns a critical eye on some aspect of our country. It's also facile to imply that she is an affirmative action case who has been "given" anything when much closer to the truth is that she's a standout human being on spine and intelligence who may not have risen against all odds, but had to make her own way nonetheless. Whether you agree with her views or not, I've never heard a whine out of her.

As a postscript, I think Hillary whines and it is disgraceful, but even with her, she is labeled that way in every case, and it isn't always true.

"Let me tell you, don't get sick in America," Michelle Obama says about health care, despite the fact that countless people from all over the world actually come to America for the sole purpose of being sick here. She forgets that even Canadians would rather spend their savings in U.S. hospitals rather than suffer through Canada's "free" single-payer health care system, which, incidentally, Obama's plan moves a step closer to.

That's Michelle Obama...proud of this country for the first time in her life, maybe even proud of the typical white people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4

JD, that will go down, way down, with "Deck the halls with Boston Charlie...".

"As in, "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name"

funny, JD.

the H in Jesus H. Christ stands for Hussein. His parents were going to name him Jesus F. Christ but a Republican owned the local paper and refused to print the birth announcement.

Posted by: major teddy | April 8, 2008 5:03 PM

Actually, it stands for Harold.

As in, "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name"

Name didn't appear on last post for some reason.

One can't play the victim card when there still exist in America Civil rights laws to protect people of color from White folk who feel entitled to think they are superior. That's not having a chip on ones shoulder or playing the victim card. That's just attesting to the hard Truth, of the still existanceof Civil Rights laws, the EEOC for both people of color and women of all colors.

The anger is stemming from angry white men who for the first time in their existence have less of an ability to commit social injustice and have the law turn a blind eye. If you are not Black, you cannot say Racism doesn't exist for you have no point reference to what Black people go through in the country still today, from housing to schooling to banking to employment to equal pay. If you are not a Woman, you cannot say Sexism doesn't exist for you have not point of reference to what Women go through still today, from housing to schooling to banking to employment to equal pay.

Angry is the White male, not all, but still far too many who for generations were taught they were above all others. The saddest part of this commentary that in this the 21st century there are still too many of those who still believe the same.

For you angry White male Christians, read your Bible...'the first shall be last and the last first,' 'the sins of the fathers bear fruit upon the children for four generations and beyond,' 'what you do in the dark comes to the light,' and finally blessed are the pure in heart...blessed is the peacemaker' and so forth and so on.

Simplicity is this..."YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH." The real other truth is that their is not one White male who would trade places with a Black, Hispanic, Mexican, or Asian person. Nor would he trade places with a woman of any race. The truth is in the light. If you were once blind, now you see. Choosing to accept the truth is a whole different subject.

Michelle Obama sponsors Pastor Wright for 20 years.

Well, Chris, you're increasingly grasping at straws to try to keep the race going, aren't you? Michelle Obama is, at this point and likely far into the future, a non-issue. Only people who are oppose Barack and are searching for some new justification for their position would/will care a whit about his spouse and the dearth of negative information on her. Persons who will or might support Barack won't be influenced by obtuse speculation about what his wife may or may not turn out to be. Running a column on a month-old fluff piece is beneath you and the Fix. It's better to print nothing at all than print non-stories. Come back when you have something relavent. Perhaps you could do a story on a candidate's wife who, subsequent to having an affair with a married man whom she convinced to divorce his ailing wife in favor of her, has criminally diverted drugs from a non-profit organization for her own use, despite having enough money to buy the Medellin Cartel. Now, that might be a story, although I'm much more interested in how any given political wife's spouse will proceed in Iraq, address the economy, and manage the nation's health and education needs.

Hey, hey, Mike and bsimon -

Take it easy, folks! It's only April. At this rate you'll both have strokes well before the election!

the H in Jesus H. Christ stands for Hussein. His parents were going to name him Jesus F. Christ but a Republican owned the local paper and refused to print the birth announcement.

Mike, I think you have a selective memory.

Posted by: bsimon | April 8, 2008 4:49 PM

You sound like my wife! :)

It sure seems as if they are hiding Michelle these days. I guess she did too much damage with her mouthing off about never having been Proud of America. Wake up America read between the lines. Obama has ties to too many communist. His close friendship to Rezko who has close ties to Sadams money launder Auchi. When will the media report on the real Obama.
If Michelle cannot conduct herself properly on the campaign trail how will she be with dignitaries thru out the world. Heaven help us. She is way too Militant just like Rev Wright.

Silly piece Chris...

I remember only a few weeks ago, Anderson Cooper did a piece on AC360 about the "Is Cindy McCain the perfect political spouse?"
The mere fact that AC360 would consider Cindy McCain "perfect" is disturbing and typical. She is a blond (not as blond as she is now) attractive 50-year old heiress who has enjoyed the perks of inherited wealth.

Mike, I think you have a selective memory.

This is as much a non-story as it was when Elizabeth Edwards started speaking out on issues. Teresa Kerry, Michelle Obama, even Hillary Clinton. Every time the media acts in complete surprise that a woman who happens to be the spouse of a politician doesn't just sit quietly. "Oh, look what uppity women are doing now: Thinking!" This country never fails to disappoint in making a fool of itself when it comes to gender issues.

usmc's a man who's been given every advantage and he still plays the victim card.

"michelle's a woman who's been GIVEN every advantage and still plays the victim card (she and Barack are two peas in a pod).
They epitomize what's wrong with the Democratic Party."

Because Princeton and Harvard Law School are just giving those degrees away, especially to low-income African Americans.

What you meant to say is "Michelle's a woman who has made the most of the poor hand dealt her, yet refuses to play the victim card (she and Barack are two peas in a pod). They epitomize the future of America."

"Oh, I forgot. Only white working class males have a chance in this country.

Unless they apply for a job, an appointment, or a degree."

Oh yes, boo hoo. You never see a white face at a board meeting or an ivy-league graduation or expensive spa or restaurant any more. Those angry black people have taken it all!

And me, I'm just a poooooor whining white male victim. I'm a victim, dammit! Rush tellls me so. Every day.

"Are you posting in the hope that nobody responds? Or that you only get responses that agree with you?"

I'm merely pointing out that, with the exception of various disagreements in the past, you generally ignored 40-80% of my posts.

As I have been skeptical of B. Hussein Obama Carter, you now ignore 0-5%.

Coincidence?

I think it happened the day I questioned why Obama got 80% of the media coverage over a two-week period. You responded that he had been winning primaries. I pointed out there were ZERO primaries in that period. You responded he just deserved it for being the Messiah he is. I called you on it.

michelle's a woman who's been GIVEN every advantage and still plays the victim card (she and Barack are two peas in a pod).
They epitomize what's wrong with the Democratic Party.

I've met Michelle at a number of Democratic Party functions. She's a real breath of fresh air -- not phoney like so many people involved in politics can be. I hope she continues to speak her mind. I'd be disappointed if she turned into a plastic candidate spouse.

harlemboy: How about the anger generated when ever that stinking has-been turncoat moron Ralph Nader opens his mouth?

harlemboy - Your post actually seems like a good idea!

Who cares who Michelle Obama is? She's never been proud of her country.

"Why are you so eager to respond to everything I post?"

Does that offend you? I would challenge the 'eager' characterization, of course, but ignoring that, does it bother you that I respond? Are you posting in the hope that nobody responds? Or that you only get responses that agree with you?

The Fix should blog about "the anger factor," which is seeps into almost every aspect of the presidential race this year:

-- McCain's anger management problems.
-- Michelle Obama's inability to swallow her anger in the interest of her husband's political fortunes.
-- Jeremiah Wright's angry tirades.
-- Hillary's flashes of anger in debates, especially over media bias.
-- Bill Clinton's angry outbursts, as with his recent meeting with California superdelegates.
-- James Carville's anger toward Bill Richardson.
-- Geraldine Ferraro's angry rebuttals to charges of racism.
-- The anger in the blogosphere, especially in the way Obama and Clinton supporters attack each other.

The list goes on.

In fact, I think this theme would make a great cover story for Time or Newsweek.

People who are calling Michelle angry haven't read the article. C'mon folks, it's a month old already. Get with it.

But Chris Cillizza is working his subtle magic, by dragging MO into this. First a post about C