Well I guess it's official this paper and web site as well as many other's where I have been critical of the media wouldn't print my post either, can't take the heat huh? Maybe it's you guys that need to stay out of the kitchen and the news business!

Last Wed Obama supporters claimed here that he should be the nominee because of his vast support from Independent voters:

"Obama no longer has an edge over Clinton among independent voters. In head-to-head match ups, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain wins independents by a 4 point margin over Clinton (42-38 percent) and by a 10 points over Obama (47 percent to 37 percent)."

It's interesting how badly the Republicans and the Clinton's BOTH do not want Obama to recieve the nomination. They are practically in bed with eachother. You have Rush Limbaugh telling his followers to support Hillary Clinton, you have the Clintons receiving an endorsement from one of their conservative arch enemies for decades, AND GLADLY ACCEPTING IT. And Fox news connot do ANYTHING but try to tear Obama down. They even hired good old Carl Rove for his expertise.
CAN'T DEMOCRATS SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?The Republicans are absolutely PETRIFIED about Obama. They want Hillary Clinton to be the nominee because they believe they can beat her! The Repbulicans and the Clintons have litterally thrown everything at Obama to stop him, HAVING TO REACH FOR PETTY STUFF MOST OF THE TIME.
THE REPUBLICANS AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN ARE FEEDING OFF EACHOTHER! What does this say about the Clinton's?
Obama not only has the attacks of one campaign to deal with, he has TWO at the same time!
The fact remains that Obama came out of nowhere, took on the Clinton machine, (the strongest machine in the Democratic party), and came out ahead of them!
The fact remains that Obama's campaign took in $40.000.000, in March alone, 96% of those donations came from individuals donating $100.00 or less.
The fact remains that Obama has drawn more people than anyone in recent history to register to vote and become politically active. This is hundreds of thousands of new voters who would have otherwise not participated.
And after all this the Clintons are trying to convince the Democratic Party that Obama is not electable? With Obama being under such attack by both the Republicans and the Clinton Campaign, this says alot about what a powerful force he will be in November.

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The reason Misha why commentors here have mentioned the African-American vote at all is because unlike all other races the African-American voting pattern is 90 to 95% along racial lines when a African-American is running against a non-African-American. It is the African-American voters in fact that are NOT voting on issues and are NOT voting for what's important to all Americans. Their loyalty is to their race first and formost and everything else is secondary.

Let's not make this an election about who the African-Americans want for President. This should be about ALL Americans. What is in the best interest of ALL Americans? To heck with what is best for one community. And to heck with what state has more African-American voters and what states Obama can win based on this demographic. Let's talk issues! Who can win based on the issues?

Not to get back to the topic or anything, but does anyone else find it hilarious that the ad bleeps out the word "damn?"

Obama says "And I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad that he can get them to pull it down, since he's their nominee and standard bearer."

As the Democrat standard bearer, Obama might want to watch his own words a little more carefully. His assessment of small town Americans as bigoted gun-toting, bible-thumping anti-immigrant xenophobes who are all just typical white people is not something you would want in a 'standard bearer', imo. Those were HIS OWN WORDS!

Additionally, Obama is always saying that you shouldn't judge HIM by other people's words or other people's actions, so why is he trying to do the exact same thing to McCain now?

He's a liar and a duplicitous slimeball politician who is willing to use whatever associations and power that will benefit him until it's no longer convenient, then he calls it "just another distraction".

If you can't see through his b.s and see the absolute hypocrisy of his comments here, then wake the frick up and stop drinking the Koolaid.

Who cares about Black Theology? Even if it teaches black people (who want to listen), that their problems are because of "white" people, so what? Are you so insecure in your own racism that black people blaming white society for their ills bothers you so? Is it beyond your ability to maybe, just maybe, understand/believe that many "black" problems really are, in fact, due to the awful experience of slavery and then the awful treatment since. Are you so white you can't see, somewhere in your own experience, in your own town, that white racism has limited black educational opportunities, access to capital, access to jobs and a meaningful wage, access to decent housing and healthcare, access to the friggin' water fountain? Sure some may use it as an excuse. Some may use it to rile up their congregation. Why does that matter to you? As free citizens of the U.S. they are intitled to their belief. One's understanding can only come from their personal experience. What has theirs been? What has yours been? Did you listen to the Rev Wright's sermon or just the snipet on Fox News? He was railing against the presence of drugs in their community. So what if he holds to the belief the government makes sure they there "to hold them down". Right or wrong who cares? He was railing against the 3 strikes and your out (in prison) law that disprortionally affects blacks because of access to legal representation and equal treatment by judges. Is he wrong? He was also railing against this rediculous stupid war in Iraq. Is he wrong? No. You may be wrapped tight in a flag blind gingoism but all he said was our foreign policy behavior in the world maybe just maybe has created our enemies. Can't you understand that? You reap what you sow. It must bother you alot that not everyone likes us. It must bother you even more to realize it's not an accident. Do you think the native America Indians would be saying "god bless America" or "G.D. America"? What has their experience been with the US government?

Everyone is turning a blind eye to this because it means nothing to anyone but racists who somehow feel threatened, perhaps suffering from their own guilt.

Who cares about the Rev. Wright words? I DON'T!!!

"He will lose Indiana and win NC by less than 3 points -and then lose every large race from there except Oregon. The DNC will give Clinton Florida as is and allow Michigan delegates to vote their conscience at the convention in a second round after an inconclusive first round that frees pledged delegates from their pledges"
THIS IS SO MUCH CR*P!
Obama is almost 16 points ahead in North Carolina. Depending on the poll, he is currenly either 5 points ahead or only 2 points behind in Indiana.
Florida may get their place in the sun, but Michigan will never be allowed. No one was on the ballot except Hillary and she lied about THAT! She agreed that all would take their names off, and then conveniently left hers on. Now she is counting those votes and saying she is ahead in the popular vote (if you count what is not allowed to be counted.)She is like a spoiled child who expects do-overs in basketball.
There was a time when both Clintons said it was all about delegates. NOW, of course, they say it's about the popular vote. And if she loses both, she will simply say he is a "damaged" candidate. Yes, she has tried to damage him, but he has taken the higher ground and she keeps trying to pull him into the mud with her.
This is how you Clintonistas want our government to be run? Good luck!

Kinda puts the lie to the "Repubs are most afraid of Hillary" line. They want her to win so mcuh they're running ads for her.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 24, 2008 1:51 PM

Yes, the Repubs are scared S***less about Obama. They know he is the real deal. He is like the best of RFK and JFK rolled into one. They have good reason to fear him.

He will trounce them in November. Landslide. The victory will be so great and overwhelming that the House and Senate are going Dem bigtime.

Time to cry in your beer and pee your pants you reactionary Republican neocons!

"...timid John McCain stays "above the fray", Obama, Hillary, and the Democratic Party--controlled MSM will assassinate his character, honesty, and reputation ad nauseam."

Posted by: madhatter | April 24, 2008 1:06 PM

You are RIGHT, madhatter. McCain is too timid to lead our reat and powerful nation.

We need someone with cajones like Hillary!!!

Kinda puts the lie to the "Repubs are most afraid of Hillary" line. They want her to win so mcuh they're running ads for her.

Hillary people are losing site of the fact that Hillary signed a document with the Party agreeing that no candidates would campaign in either Fl. or Mi. and NONE of the votes from their technically "illegal" primaries would be counted. None. EVER. It's the price paid for breaking the rules. The fault is with the state parties, ignoring the wishes of the national Party, and moving up anyway.

What's the problem? Hillory's losing. For you all, do rules only apply to others? For you all, breaking rules should be condoned and rewarded? Are you parents? Did your parents never follow thru regarding penalties for breaking rules?

It's over. Fl. & Mi. are in time-out.

Republicans for Hillary 08!

Hillary for McCain 08!

Both against Obama 08!

They don't call it the "White House" for nothing, you know!

One thing that many people outside of North Carolina probably don't know is that while NC is a Red State and did send Jesse Helms to Washington for 30 years (and currently has two Republican senators), somehow the Democratic Party has maintained control at the state level to up to the present day. The NCGOP positions itself pretty far to the right, perhaps because the Democratic party takes up most of the ideological middle ground here (there are very few truly liberal politicians here, except in municipal governments like Chapel Hill's). So this ad, a sort of desperation tactic, is intended to stir the pot for a party that can't seem to connect with it's natural constituency, conservative voters. The Governor's mansion has been in Democratic hands for 16 years, and the NCGOP must feel that the current Republican gubernatorial candidates aren't going to get there running a clean race. Also, NC would never go for Clinton in a general election, but it could go for Obama, so that's naturally part of the strategy as well.

McCaine should STFU . He will have no coatails and we already know he has no loyalty to the party . North Carolinians are a self reliant lot and know what they are doing .

The NC Republicans latest tactic might have worked in Pennsylvania, but in North Carolina it will be rejected for the racist, ignorant blather that it is.

Clinton only won PA by 9 points and will lose NC by double digits, despite these Republican efforts to soften up Obama for her. Indiana is a toss-up. But since in all previous races, Clinton has declined rapidly as the voting nears (see Ohio, Texas, New Hampshire, PA), I think it is fair to guess that Obama wins in Indiana too.

John McCain's dumb idea distancing himself from the North Carolina GOP's use of Jerimiah Wright's hateful and racist anti-white and anti-America sermons that Barack Obama and his family halejuhad and amened to for 20 years, plays right into the Democrat Party's hand, and may cost McCain and the Republicans the WH in '08. The Democratic Party and their propaganda arm, the Democratic Party--controlled MSM, love it when their opponents try's to play nice and play the gentelmans game while they can use any means to an end--which they will. While timid John McCain stays "above the fray", Obama, Hillary, and the Democratic Party--controlled MSM will assassinate his character, honesty, and reputation ad nauseam.

This ad show the Republicans (not all Repubs, I admit) True Colors.

This tactic will backfire.

It might have worked 20 years ago, but there is a new generation of voters who are not racist like the previous generations.

I think of my own kids NOT understanding the premise of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" without me sitting down and explaining it to them.

This generation will view this ad as despicable. And so will millions upon millions of other Americans.

The NC Republican Party thinks they "got one" here, don't they? Truth is, this ad will make them look like they have white hoods on...

This ad show the Republicans (not all Repubs, I admit) True Colors.

This tactic will backfire.

It might have worked 20 years ago, but there is a new generation of voters who are not racist like the previous generations.

I think of my own kids NOT understanding the premise of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" without me sitting down and explaining it to them.

This generation will view this ad as despicable. And so will millions upon millions of other Americans.

The NC Republican Party thinks they "got one" here, don't they? Truth is, this ad will make them look like they have white hoods on...

I believe that McCain opposes the ad -- I mean, I believe that he is genuine.

Although, he does get the best of both worlds. He gets to appear as Taking the High Road. Yet, the nasty ad still gets aired.

Obama is carrying more baggage than an Airbus with a full load. Either he is Rip Van Winkle sleeping though 20 years of hate speeches or he is Pinocchio lying through his teeth. I am a Democrat but my party has a death wish - give me Obama and give me defeat. He would carry only Washington, D.C. in the fall.

ATTENTION JACKSMITH :-)

If you think you can make people listen to and believe your poorly-phrased, poorly-reasoned partisan attacks on Barack Obama,

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama's EXTENSIVE experience as a civil rights attorney, activist, community leader, state legislator, and U.S. Senator (MORE years in elected office than Hillary) is outweighed by her 35 years as a lawyer for WalMart (a few years), political wife (35 years), and U.S. Senator (a few years, during which she lay down for W on Iraq!) (see the difference?)

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, facing an economy on the verge of collapse, could not handle the situation at least as well if not better than Hillary Clinton. Who also has no experience, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) lucked into the greatest economic expansion and prosperity in American history (due primarily to the advent of the Internet which he didn't invent, and the end of the Cold War with which he had nothing to do) - largely irrelevant because HE IS NOT THE CANDIDATE

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama's realistic approach to health care is not as good as Hillary Clinton's poll-driven election year contrivance - she, Who delayed this current health care debate back in 1993, when she - alone, because she would accept neither advice nor criticism from anyone, let alone Democrats in Congress - failed to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, with the experience of having been one of only a few political figures to appreciate the disastrous mistake we were making in Iraq, cannot better manage that situation than can Hillary Clinton, Who voted to invade Iraq when Bush asked so that she would look strong enough on defense to run for president, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced by polls that the American people thought he absolutely had to - and who, once again, IS NOT AND CANNOT BE THE CANDIDATE

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama cannot be at least as effective at saving the environment as Hillary Clinton - with no experience saving the environment, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office having presided over the most dramatic increase in carbon emissions in American history, and who did not raise mileage standards for his entire Administration

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, graduate of Columbia and Harvard Law (where he was President of the Law Review) and sometime professor at the University of Chicago, is not substantially better-informed than Hillary Clinton, Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) presided over yearly increases in the cost of higher education which were much greater than inflation -

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no federal experience but a first-class mind will not be FAR better than Hillary Clinton, who spent 8 years on the right hand side of the bed of President Bill Clinton (OK, more like 6 1/2) Who is one of only two Presidents in American history ever to be impeached

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with the narcissism and political cynicism of two people who have never worked other than as politician (well, one mostly as a politician's wife) but who still want you believe they are ON YOUR SIDE, like Hillary and Bill Clinton, rather than with inspirational ideas and conversations from and with Obama, ..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Clinton in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are NOT doing so at the suggestion of Rush Limbaugh...

Best regards

Jacques Smith

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the ego to try to drum up massive amounts of new business for the health insurers in the name of "affordable, universal" health care for everyone, ignoring the research - which she had to have seen - which said that the only useable and effective model for universal coverage is SINGLE-PAYER... NOT a giveaway to Aetna, Met, etc.

[QUOTE]
DO you Even know how he got his state senate seat?
He SUED< SUED< SUED everyone else off the ballot.
Posted by: call your granny a racist day | April 24, 2008 7:57 AM
[/QUOTE]

Well, well, well. It looks like Obama *can* stand the heat of the kitchen after all. And he did it without whining.

ATTENTION JACKSMITH :-)

If you think you can make people listen to and believe your poorly-phrased, poorly-reasoned partisan attacks on Barack Obama,

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama's EXTENSIVE experience as a civil rights attorney, activist, community leader, state legislator, and U.S. Senator (MORE years in elected office than Hillary) is outweighed by her 35 years as a lawyer for WalMart (a few years), political wife (35 years), and U.S. Senator (a few years, during which she lay down for W on Iraq!) (see the difference?)

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, facing an economy on the verge of collapse, could not handle the situation at least as well if not better than Hillary Clinton. Who also has no experience, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) lucked into the greatest economic expansion and prosperity in American history (due primarily to the advent of the Internet which he didn't invent, and the end of the Cold War with which he had nothing to do) - largely irrelevant because HE IS NOT THE CANDIDATE

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama's realistic approach to health care is not as good as Hillary Clinton's poll-driven election year contrivance - she, Who delayed this current health care debate back in 1993, when she - alone, because she would accept neither advice nor criticism from anyone, let alone Democrats in Congress - failed to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, with the experience of having been one of only a few political figures to appreciate the disastrous mistake we were making in Iraq, cannot better manage that situation than can Hillary Clinton, Who voted to invade Iraq when Bush asked so that she would look strong enough on defense to run for president, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced by polls that the American people thought he absolutely had to - and who, once again, IS NOT AND CANNOT BE THE CANDIDATE

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama cannot be at least as effective at saving the environment as Hillary Clinton - with no experience saving the environment, and Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office having presided over the most dramatic increase in carbon emissions in American history, and who did not raise mileage standards for his entire Administration

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama, graduate of Columbia and Harvard Law (where he was President of the Law Review) and sometime professor at the University of Chicago, is not substantially better-informed than Hillary Clinton, Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) presided over yearly increases in the cost of higher education which were much greater than inflation -

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no federal experience but a first-class mind will not be FAR better than Hillary Clinton, who spent 8 years on the right hand side of the bed of President Bill Clinton (OK, more like 6 1/2) Who is one of only two Presidents in American history ever to be impeached

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with the narcissism and political cynicism of two people who have never worked other than as politician (well, one mostly as a politician's wife) but who still want you believe they are ON YOUR SIDE, like Hillary and Bill Clinton, rather than with inspirational ideas and conversations from and with Obama, ..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Clinton in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are NOT doing so at the suggestion of Rush Limbaugh...

Best regards

Jacques Smith

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the ego to try to drum up massive amounts of new business for the health insurers in the name of "affordable, universal" health care for everyone, ignoring the research - which she had to have seen - which said that the only useable and effective model for universal coverage is SINGLE-PAYER... NOT a giveaway to Aetna, Met, etc.

Welcome to North Carolina, folks, where the techniques used by Karl Rove were first forged and refined -- by Jesse Helms.

Helms first got into the dirt bag business by distributing a pamphlet to voters suggesting a Democratic candidate fathered a black child. Sound familiar? It happened in the 1950's.

In the 1960's, WRAL-TV5 in Raleigh, in the interest of "equal time" gave Helms a few minutes, several times a week, to editorialize his passions against integration, for school prayer and other conservative talking points. This was before cable and folks only had 2 or 3 stations to watch. This gave Helms a platform that would make Rush Limbaugh envious today. Quite a fear-mongering broadcast pioneer, that Jesse Helms. While moderates laughed off Helms' caveman politics, he was building a base. Duh.

Helms, through the direct mail fund-raising and newslettering of the "Congressional Club" found disgruntled dixiecrats in the 70's and converted them to funding and supporting Republicans. These "news letters" would make an awesome museum somewhere, as they are full of fear and nonsense.

Helms ran the famous "hands" ad to play up fears among rural and blue collar whites that minorities were taking their jobs. (are you starting to see a pattern?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk

In one Congressional Club ad campaign, then-Governor Jim Hunt was painted as a "Mondale liberal" -- bingo. That's the meme being used today with Obama and the Dems running for Governor today.

That's right. North Carolina. Where people vote against their own interests in each and every election!

If that ain't mind control, then I don't know what is.

Good pointed video Kreuz.
I thought it was very polite of the presenter to ask her first. Some of us still live in the world of "ladies first". Opening doors, giving up ones seat in a crowded bus/ metro.etc etc
But maybe this lady must push the "man thing", to become Commander in Chief. Others point out that her husband will become the first Laddy.
Should that happen, there will be a major american market for both male and female asbestos pantsuits next year. Diaper pouch or other included.

Obama's whines:
1. Annie Oakley"
How exactly does pointing out that someone long associate with the left who was, if we are to trust her White House years as experience, party to some of the toughest gun control legislation signed at the federal level, suddenly acting like she's a big advocate of guns and a longtime huner, constitute whining. He was seriously laughing at her while saying it, how does that constitute whining?

"2. ABC's questions were too hard (x5)"
Ohh, please give me a single cite for this one. He's never once uttered that.

"3. Hillary is mean to me (x10)"
So now the whole dynamic of change and hope and a new politics is whining? Because that must be the only place you're going here.

"4. White people, unlike black people, vote on the basis of race"
This is just another ridiculus comment, and your follow up just makes it look even dumber. Where has he evered anything remotely resembling either of these comments. Again, give me a cite, not just another strawman.

"5. I didn't know Wright hates America, and besides, my grandmother is a racist, too."
Even if this is what he said, which it isn't, it's still not whining. Thanks for proving my point, though. BTW: This is whining:

http://showhype.com/video/hillary_clinton_recalls_snl_parody_does_obama_want/

"[QUOTE]
So much for Obama's new politics.
Posted by: nclwtk | April 23, 2008 6:02 PM
[/QUOTE]

Followed by:How do you expect things to change if you don't vote for change?

Obama , whose use of race and sexism isn't a change. He's as dirty a politico as they come.
DO you Even know how he got his state senate seat?
He SUED< SUED< SUED everyone else off the ballot.

AJ --

Get what right? The good reverand is an extremist who's gotten away with his trash talk for too long.

So what if he served in the military?

Obama seems to think he's running for city councilman, not president. I agree with others--if he can't take the heat from Hillary Clinton and ABC News, how would he fare in a crisis? Stamp his feet?

Obama had better get used to it, because this is what the Republicans do. Bush used to say he didn't condone the attack ads either, but he just stood back in the wings as the attack machines roared on, and he benefitted.
It happens in EVERY Presidential cycle whether Obama wants to admit it or not.
If it's the truth, it's fair game and the truth is that Rev. Wright IS a racist and Obama refuses to distance himself from that racism. Obama himself and his wife Michelle even bring up the "black man" race card in their speeches, making them racist. Politics has never been pretty and if Obama can't take the heat, he had better get out of the kitchen.

Still not sure what is "wrong" with attacking Obama's Wright problem, since Obama admits knowing Wright's extreme positions for many years but kept him as a close advisor. For that matter, Obama was finally dragged, kicking and screaming at a national debate, into rejecting Farakhan, a rabid anti-semite. This is all part of who Obama is. An attack on his character, by pointing out his feelings and his positions, is so legitimate that it's impossible to understand how it can be claimed to be "unfair".

From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/04/best-way-for-obama-to-go-negative-go.html

"Wednesday, April 23, 2008
The Best Way For Obama To Go Negative: Go Positive

The WP, via CNN, reports that there is now a discussion in the Obama camp as to whether he should go negative in Indiana.

Simply going negative would be a critical error, opening Obama to charges that he would be contradicting the very messages that have inspired his efforts and undergirded his campaign. This is a gap that the Clinton team would surely leap through. He would be further drawn into the swirling chaos that the old politics has created--as the Clinton camp would sure wish-- further enveloping and distracting voters from the fundamental messages of his campaign.

The best way for Obama to go negative is to go positive--clearly, strongly, and powerfully contrasting the method of "kitchen sink" politics, where any statement or position--even statements that are diametrically opposed; any claim, no matter how false; and any trivial distraction can be used simply in the effort to win at any cost, with the genuine effort to move the nation into a more substantive and honest politics--and into an Administration that will be grounded in these principles, rather than the very same methods and distortions that we can so easily see having been employed over the past seven years.

He should relentlessly tie the former method to the politics of the past--and to indicate the consequences for the nation that these politics have wrought--in the loss of national stature, Constitutional and moral authority, economic stability, and our most important treasure, the lives of our sons and daughters to a cause borne of such distortions.

I.e.:

"We have had enough of the negative campaigning of the past. We have seen what it has done to us over the past years--the "kitchen sink" politics of distortion and falsehood, of being willing to make any claim--no matter how true, false, inconsistent or contradictory--to put forward one's personal agenda, has threatened to take this great nation down the drain--financially, in terms of our standing in the world; in terms of our most important and basic treasure--the lives of our sons and daughters--the very future of this nation.

Do we want the same result? The same candidates, using the same old tactics, leading to the same outcomes of the all-too-recent past? Those who will do or say anything to be elected--and then will do or say anything afterward to justify their mistakes?

I say: We need a change from the politics of the past. We need someone who will say enough of the politics of the kitchen sink, of trivia and distortion. It's time to drain the sink. It's time for someone who , instead of fighting to divide the nation in pursuit of victory, will fight for you by saying: We will not play the same old games. That's the old politics. That's the politics that led us into Iraq, that left Osama Bin Ladin free, that led to violations of the Constitution that we solemnly pledge to uphold for this nation, and that has led us to be faced each day with the loss of promise that each new American life represents.

We can be seduced by politics of tactics, of fear. We've seen it before. And we've seen what happens after.

Will you join me in putting this era of old politics behind us, into a new future where you, your country, and the needs of your family and your future come first? Where we step beyond the tactics, distortion, and trivia of the moment, that too often have led to a long and difficult future for our nation, into to a time when the genuine needs of our nation and our country matter most?

Change is never easy. But when it is difficult, it is what we most often need. Will you join me in saying "No" to the kitchen sink politics of the past, to putting the era of old politics, of trivia and tactics, sniping and distortion, behind us? In saying "Yes" to a new and honest future, dedicated to the real needs of the American people, and not to the trivial battles that have divided and distracted this country for so long? To the real changes that this country has needed for the past 7 years, rather than to a continuation of the politics of the past? Will you join me? Can you join me? Let me hear it:

Yes we can (etc.)"

This should help to lead voters away from the churning pool of chaos and incitement, the distracting, impulsive song of the Clinton camp that, in its vague insinuations, pulls people to the seeming attraction and safety of the old--and will to help lead them towards an era where we can leave this ill-thought trivia behind for a considered, honest and principled statesmanship.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/04/best-way-for-obama-to-go-negative-go.html

DEAR AMERICA, not forgetting CC,
Thank you for the absorbing commentary on this, and all blogs.
Many people with their hearts pinned to their sleeves for their favoured candidate, others pouring gas on the fire ,often getting burned themselves.
The 1.47 comment got me to thinking about birds in general.
Your candidates:-
Mccain - nice old guy, ex war hero, but in the present day, does america and the world need a HAWK with temper tantrums to follow the present lame DUCK. Offers only a 4 year term. Doubtful but not impossible, with a good team behind him holding the button out of reach.

Obama - A FLEDGLING in the nest, already being attacked by the CROWS. Good words, offering hope and change against a corrupt system. His message of talking enemies to death appears a superior argument for both the USA and the world in the present day circumstances that we all are aware.A thinker as POTUS would also be a change but will his ideas polish the EAGLE image that one should expect of an american president for a 8 year stretch, or could he be a 4 year ALBATROSS. Also not an impossible candidate with a good team behind him, but this would require a united party, not one falling apart at the seems due to infighting. Only time will tell should he obtain the big prize.

Clinton - Queen of the birdcage. Sings a different song every minute,knows how to avoid gunfire, claims her preening is losing her time to sing, mostly out of tune. Doubtful pedigree, especially hoping that the impeached COCK of the henhouse whose pastime is chasing all the CHICKS, and spreading the SEED will be joining her. Running about like a headless CHICKEN threatening to bomb all and anybody who gets in her way. With her experienced team of bought VULTURES and COOKOOS you can more or less guarantee that she will rent out, or even sell the cage. Improbable but its you that are voting. This foul FOWL could come swooping back in 2012.

Although many will feel that I have been harsh on the last candidate and that her supporters would like to make 2 + 2 equal 5, rehash/ remash the F & M figures, tilt or move the barnyard, suggest Obama gave her the BIRD, and bring the Wright FLOCK argument into the equation [because they can not be bothered to read the full context of his speach] until their wishes are met, I would suggest they go look in the mirror.
The OSTRICH with its head in the sand is you.

To Barack Obama, Jeremiah Wright and the Democrat Party: "Your chickens...are coming home...to roooooooost!

People are losing site of the fact Hillary would be ahead if Micigan and Florida voters were counted. They will be in November and they will remember being disqualified.

Racism, yes it's alive and well and has been taught at Trinity church since 1979. Black Theology has been taught there since 1979. Black Theology teaches black people their problems are because of "white" people. Look it up, please. Also look up Nation of Islam, wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam, Black Muslim
and read the platform, this is in line with Black Theoeogy. Look at this link it shows Trinity has been teaching/preaching :http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/000316/hopkins.shtml , Why is everyone turning a blind eye to this?

Black Theology and Black Muslim have nothing to do with religon. Black Theology and Black Muslim is a MOVEMENT. Please read the links and decide for yourself. Black preachers of all dominations are teaching Black Theology, again, not a religon a movement.

WORDS OF WISDOM: read this

People are losing site of the fact Hillary would be ahead if Micigan and Florida voters were counted. They will be in November and they will remember being disqualified.

Racism, yes it's alive and well and has been taught at Trinity church since 1979. Black Theology has been taught there since 1979. Black Theology teaches black people their problems are because of "white" people. Look it up, please. Also look up Nation of Islam, wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam, Black Muslim
and read the platform, this is in line with Black Theoeogy. Look at this link it shows Trinity has been teaching/preaching :http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/000316/hopkins.shtml , Why is everyone turning a blind eye to this?

Black Theology and Black Muslim have nothing to do with religon. Black Theology and Black Muslim is a MOVEMENT. Please read the links and decide for yourself. Black preachers of all dominations are teaching Black Theology, again, not a religon a movement.

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I was in jail because I declasified the doccuments. May be it worth. But the extermination regime of Romanian authorities in my case is sclavery also.
Best regards,
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Words of Wisdom,

You really couldn't tell from his speech whether he believes in Black Liberation Theology? I guess it's because he spoke to you like an adult.

Typical of the Clintons ... they take a leak on the Democratic Party and its chances in November, and claim they are rainmakers and that they've turned a tide ...

Great work, Full Metal Jacket Hillary (the Bosnia heroine) and The Dear Hunter Bill (would be First Philanderer)!

You've gone from tilting windmills against the "vast rightwing conspiracy" to being the Democratic team touted by the Republican talking heads as the toughest candidate McCain could face ...

and they do it with a straight face.

Obama's pretty much got the nomination wrapped up. Once he's in the general election, the Reverand Wright controversy may actually work in his favor. The black voters will see Wright spouting off a radical black agenda and they'll know Obama's their candidate. The local black leaders will do his campaigning for him. Obama can then focus solely on appeasing the white voters. He'll get the angry black voters, the upbeat black voters and the white voters as well. The more publicity the better.

The William Ayers thing is much more damaging. It's a connection to a man who committed domestic terrorism. The Republicans would do well to let Obama win the nomination, then bring it up. Sean Hannity is a fool for sounding off on it before Obama has the nomination.

Obama's pretty much got the nomination wrapped up. Once he's in the general election, the Reverand Wright controversy may actually work in his favor. The black voters will see Wright spouting off a radical black agenda and they'll know Obama's their candidate. The local black leaders will do his campaigning for him. Obama can then focus solely on appeasing the white voters. He'll get the angry black voters, the upbeat black voters and the white voters as well. The more publicity the better.

The William Ayers thing is much more damaging. It's a connection to a man who committed domestic terrorism. The Republicans would do well to let Obama win the nomination, then bring it up. Sean Hannity is a fool for sounding off on it before Obama has the nomination.

Several military analysts who respect Petraeus expressed concern that his promotion to Central Command will end up placing the needs of the Iraq war above the broader U.S. interests in the Middle East -- including the Afghanistan war, and the reemergence of Al Qaeda in Pakistan. They also sound worried that the new Iraq commander Bush nominated, U.S. Army Gen. Raymond Odierno -- Petraeus' corps commander in Iraq -- is not up to the task.

Petraeus's name is synonymous with counterinsurgency.
"Both Petraeus and Odierno are, for understandable reasons, very invested in Iraq," said Colin Kahl, a counterinsurgency expert at Georgetown University and the Center for a New American Security. "Putting an 'Iraq guy' in charge of Centcom and pairing him with a field commander that, historically, has endorsed maxing out our presence in Iraq may make it more difficult to shift needed resources to Afghanistan.

Justin Logan, a foreign-policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, agreed on this. "It may be time to change Centcom's name to 'Iraq Command,'" Logan said. "The move also raises concerns whether the White House expects Petraeus to mount a propaganda offensive against Iran." Fallon fell out of favor with the Bush White House over Iran, while Petraeus has cited Iran as a major source of concern during his two rounds of congressional testimony.

Yeah, NCGOP while you are running this ad why don't add that Rev. Wright was in college and was inspired by JFK. So Wright left college to join the marines. After a few years Wright became a corpman and trained to become a cardiac-pulmonary technician and has received letters of commendations for attending to President Lyndon B. Johnson.

While Rev. Wright was serving his country, Bill Clinton, GW Bush, and Dick Cheney used college student deferments/family connections to stay out of the military!!

Get it right mclovin...

Obama whine Number 4, would be better said:

4. Nobody can say that I'm black, unless they're black too. If they do, they're playing the race card-unless they vote for me, in which case they're progressive. If they're not black and they don't vote for me, they're rednecked crackers.

Obama's whines:

1. Annie Oakley
2. ABC's questions were too hard (x5)
3. Hillary is mean to me (x10)
4. White people, unlike black people, vote on the basis of race
5. I didn't know Wright hates America, and besides, my grandmother is a racist, too.

Hey chris...I am wondering about this story that I read at Huffington Post. According to this author, the popular vote might not bne a very good metric to measure the democratic race by because of the near impossibility of counting caucus voters, which would seem to disadvantage Obama. Here is the link...I wanted to know if you could comment on it and help clear up this confusion. If it is true, then it seems like this could be major, especially since the Clinton campaign is increasingly relying on this metric to make their case.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shawn-christensen/dont-be-fooled-obama-is-a_b_96118.html

Thw question posed is whether the ad featuring Rev. Wright, who Obama has chosen to stick by, is fair game.

How could it not be???

Would anyone care to tell me how Obama's speech does not indicate that Obama was supporting and justifying Black Liberation Theology and its belief system??

I would like to hear Obama on that one.

Seriously, I read the speech and all I saw was that Obama was in support of Black Liberation Theology.

NOOO Obama is not a Muslim, (he believes in Black Liberation Theology) If that is not Clintonian, I dont know what is.

The clearest proof that hillary is the weaker candidate against john mccain is that Fox News and Republican talking heads are all siding with Hillary now.

flarrfan:

When is your shift over at Obama headquarters???

I guess I intended to get a discussion of the issue - instead of stating a position and actually supporting it, you chose to attack.

Is this the new Obama strategy ? No more issues, just attacks?

Quite a different Obama from before, HUH?

What happened the one we have all been waiting for, who transcends race

Sure looks to me like "transcends race" means all the blacks vote on the basis of race, and all the whites are bullied into being colorblind.

Group to Air Obama WILLIE HORTON Ad. - 04/21/08- 8:34PM
Floyd Brown, a longtime conservative strategist who heads the conservative National Campaign Fund, said he is launching the ad to EXPOSE HBO's WEAKNESS on gang violence. The ad draws a parallel between Obama's weakness on gang violence and the war on terror, said Brown. http://election.newsmax.com/ncf_obama/

'A revote would have been fair though and let the chips fall where they will, but that is no longer a possibility'

no longer a possibility now isn't that convenient. Many of us posted here 7 weeks ago that Sen Obama's campaign would object to every proposed revote proposal including his beloved firehouse primary that was agreed to and paid for. Most of us are not surprised with that outcome in Fla and Michigan.Isn't that convenient that they ran out the clock until the 2 state legislators said times up. The Obama campaign never had any intention of approving any form of revote likely not even a revote caucus. And it is exactly that political stunt that will likely lead to millions of HC supporters to oppose Obama in Nov.A likely large Fla revote loss to HC would have likely changed the direction of the nomination and the Obama campaign has known that all along. As a HC supporter an Obama vicory in a Fla revote would certainly have motivated me to then support him in Nov rather than just not voting for the top of the ticket.

By shifting his emphasis on McCain, Obama rolls out his new strategy, "Ignore the troll."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/us/politics/23obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The ABC news article on this stated that the reporter sought comment from 3 different communications staffers for the Clintons, but after several hours heard no comment.

For a campaign that can respond in seconds when it wants to attack, why the silence?

McCain and the RNC both come out issuing condemnations... but the Clinton's sit quietly and watch (presumably rubbing their hands with glee).

I don't for a minute believe they are personally racist.

But I DO believe that they will happily let others cause race divisions if it benefits them politically.

To be honest, I'm not sure which is worse.

On September 18, 2006, Pastor John Hagee -- whose endorsement Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said this past Sunday he was "glad to have" -- told NPR's Terry Gross that "Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans." "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God," Hagee said, because "there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came."

On his radio show yesterday, right-wing talker Dennis Prager asked Hagee to respond to "the various charges made against him" in a fact sheet put out by the Democratic National Committee. Asked about his comments on Hurricane Katrina, Hagee said "the topic of that day was cursing and blessing":

HAGEE: Yes. The topic of that day was cursing and blessing. ... What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God, in time if New Orleans recovers and becomes the pristine city it can become it may in time be called a blessing. But at this time it's called a curse.

Prager followed up by asking if all natural disasters are a result of "the divine hand" and if there is "any natural disaster that is not the result of sin?" Hagee responded by saying "it's a result of God's permissible will" and "that there was going to be a massive homosexual rally there the following Monday," which he said "was sin":

PRAGER: Right, but in the case, did NPR get, is this quote correct though that in the case of New Orleans you do feel it was sin?

HAGEE: In the case of New Orleans, their plan to have that homosexual rally was sin. But it never happened. The rally never happened.

PRAGER: No, I understand.

HAGEE: It was scheduled that Monday.

PRAGER: No, I'm only trying to understand that in the case of New Orleans, you do feel that God's hand was in it because of a sinful city?

HAGEE: That it was a city that was planning a sinful conduct, yes.

On Feb. 4, Fox News began promoting former White House adviser Karl Rove as its newest contributor. On Feb. 5, Rove made his first appearance in his new job, providing Super Tuesday analysis. Since that time, Fox has refused to disclose that Rove has been described as an adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and reportedly provided electoral maps to the campaign.

Once again, Rove's ties to McCain went undisclosed during last night's Pennsylvania primary coverage. Throughout the night, he was introduced as a "very frustrated Karl Rove," a "very happy Karl Rove," and "Fox News political analyst Karl Rove."

During this time, he was free to criticize Barack Obama ("His personal instincts don't put him in synch with these people"), Hillary Clinton ("Now we're starting to see doubts on Barack Obama's supporter's part about Clinton"), and the Democratic party generally ("First of all the Democrat rules are so messed up it's impossible for somebody to secure the nomination relatively early in the process").

Coincidentally, Rove was also able pump McCain's strategy, which the senator shared with Rove during a recent "private gathering."

McCain to skip vote on pay discrimination.
Today, the Senate plans to take up the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, "rectifying the Supreme Court decision in Ledbetter v. Goodyear that made it much harder for women and other workers to pursue pay discrimination claims." While Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL) are expected to return from the campaign trail to Washington to vote for this bill, Politico reports that McCain will skip the vote. McCain has missed more Senate votes than any other presidential candidate.

UPDATEMSNBC's First Read points out that McCain has missed "a staggering 58 percent" of 110th Congress votes. "McCain has now missed more votes than Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota, who suffered a brain hemorrhage in December 2006 and was unable to return to the Senate until fall of last year. McCain has now missed nine votes more than Johnson."

Some may know this but the argument Clinton wants to spin about Florida votes counting because both were on the ballot doesn't hold water. What the fact is is, the ballot had a property tax initiative to change the state constitution one of the most important votes in years. With the hurricanes driving the insurance rates sky high and taxes tripling in just four years people turned out in force to vote. The problem is, they were older people and property owners and they made a primary vote even though it didn't count just because they were already there. In other words, Hillary got votes just by default. Young people who don't own homes or property, didn't bother to even go to the polls. They are a big part of what would have been Obamas voting base. He might as well not even have been on the ballot. The result is a falsehood and an illusion if you know the facts. Of course, Hillary never let a small thing like facts stand in the way. A revote would have been fair though and let the chips fall where they will, but that is no longer a possibility so we are just stuck with thing like they are.

Just for the record, Hillary did not achieve a double-digit victory in PA. According to the Pennsylvania Department of State elections page, with 99.51% of the votes counted, Hillary has 54.6% to Barack's 45.4%. That is 9.2%, which rounded down is 9%. I know it's trivial and that Hillary will be perceived as a double-digit winner, but technically she was not. Not that it really matters.

Although Obama appears intolerant of small town people who hunt and go to church, he appears very very tolerant of Rev. Wright and Black Liberation Theology. It's an issue and Obama's people are fooling themselves.

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 23, 2008 6:37 PM

"Words of Wisdom" should call him/herself "TWISTED Words of Wisdom" or "OUT-OF-CONTEXT Words of Wisdom."

Obama represents the alternative to what is. And what is really is pretty bad. If you think living in the US is great these days then fine, but the conservatives own our standard of living and war -- both bad. The people who are posting against him sound like Nazi's. God bless Barack, hope he becomes President and cleans up this country's big mess.

How many people who know politics, Chicago "South Side" Jesse Jackson, old school race-baiting, affirmative action politics would be surprised by Obama????

Obama is a 60's retread, repackaged for the neophyte newbies to the utter delight of leftist faculty of college campuses. He's like "Walk This Way" remade for the umpteenth time, rebranded for a teenybopper.

He's a sexist, racist, ageist bigot of the Far Left. Abortion, anti-gun, anti-white, anti-elderly, anti-everything except Starbucks and Al Gore.

What were you thinking, DNC?

The truth hurts.

Chris:

There is something wrong with the democrats' supposed proportional system - if you look at the popular vote the two candidates are only 1.7% apart - however the pledged delegate totals are over 5% apart.

WHY is THAT ???

If there was a real proportional system, the two candidates would be 51 pledged delegates apart.

What is wrong with this picture????

Something is wrong. Pennsylvania a win with such a massive margin only yields + 15 delegates for Hillary? That can not be, compared to the results in the other states. How does Idaho yield + 12 , Minnesota, Georgia and the other small states have magnified results.

Ultimately, in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve. Which is a sad commentary on what we've deserved of late. Lots of people were swayed by the whole swift boat smear ads and the fear mongering and as a result we got George Bush. A man who lied us into a war we didn't need to fight and said to the terrorists flooding into Iraq in the aftermath of our invasion "bring it on." They did and thousands of American servicemen died as a result. Maybe people will be wiser this time. But I have my doubts.

Hillary keeps arguing that Obama isn't electable, but is she? Half the country won't vote for her. All the GOP needs to beat her is to move 2-5% of the undecideds into their camp.

The best thing that HRC can do is withdraw and endorse Obama. That's our only hope for 08.

Obama whies too much? can you even point to one example of Obama "whining?" I can point to at least five of Clinton doing so (referencing Saturday Night Live did give it a nice touch, though...)

what an absolutely idiotic comment.

'Apparently, Hillary Clinton supporters in North Carolina are contributing to the NC GOP to keep the ad on the air to allow their candidate to fight in Indiana.'

why don't you post what you delusionally believe that the Clintons are racists and that is why they are paying for this disgusting commercial. Smart but cynical strategy to gin up hatred for HC. Is that what you mean by bringing the country together or is that just rhetoric for the masses? Thing is we see through this cynicism.

"The pastor at the church that Clinton did once attend has expressed public support for Wright. He's proclaimed it a "grave injustice" to make a judgment on Wright based "two or three sound bites," and criticized those who "use a few of Wright's quotes to polarize."

"The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize."

Pastor Of Clinton's Former Church: Don't Use Wright To Polarize
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

One thing is vert clear, Hillary is in it to stay, at least until the votes are totaled in June and if the delegate count is not enough for either, it will go to the convention and Hillary will win in a second vote.

There is no doubt that race plays a big part, as does sexism.

I think it's too soon to tell. But people who think Wright's comments don't count because "only white people were surprised," may be in for a surprise themselves. Michelle's "proud," Wright's "goddam," Obama's "bitter"--and this race isn't over.

If Hillary pulls this off, I think Obama will join the Independents, a la Lieberman, and run that way.

I've got to admit, I think Obama is a weak man. He whines too much, and so do his supporters. We've already had a marshmallow for president for the last eight years; we don't need another whiner.

"...Clinton will pick a Southern Governor as a running mate and Blacks will record the lowest turnout in a general election in a generation. A Republican will ascend to the White House..."

I hope that doesn't occur, and if it does, this nation will suffer mightily, domestically and abroad, for not being "ready" to elect a Black president, which is what this is all about. The Democrats are divided again just like in the 60's and '70s pre-Jimmy. Not good.

asja- dude, puff-puff-give!! You must have some pretty good stuff to come up with that scenario!

I'm a fan of Obama and I can tell you, I now think Clinton will take the nomination. Picking Obama as VP "to lock the Black vote" is not going to happen.

He will lose Indiana and win NC by less than 3 points -and then lose every large race from there except Oregon. The DNC will give Clinton Florida as is and allow Michigan delegates to vote their conscience at the convention in a second round after an inconclusive first round that frees pledged delegates from their pledges.

With everyone on the floor voting freely, some of Obama's superdelegates will vote against him and deliver the nomination to Clinton.

Clinton will pick a Southern Governor as a running mate and Blacks will record the lowest turnout in a general election in a generation. A Republican will ascend to the White House.

Back in the Senate, Obama will write another book and run for a second Senate term, lose narrowly and retire to speeches and teaching at the University of Chicago.

Assistant Vice President to Hillary and Bill Clinton? Never gonna happen.

Sorry, mean't to say 'Reductio ad absurdum," we'd need a few mor levels of separation to rise to the 'reductio ad nauseum' standard.

when I heard their chairwoman interviewed on POTUS this afternoon it reminded me a lot like she was rerunning the Jessie Helms hand and pink slip commercial decades ago or Coker call me Harold strategy. Let's just see if McCain can stop it it looks unlikey that anyon will slow her down, This chairwoman was saying the heck with McCain this commercial was a local ad for their gubentaorial campaign and he has no say. Its disgusting and I am sure that McCain will want to distance himself from these tactics but effectively can not do anything to stop it. In reality it will likely hurt McCain more than Obama.

Apparently, Hillary Clinton supporters in North Carolina are contributing to the NC GOP to keep the ad on the air to allow their candidate to fight in Indiana.

Hillary doesn't have enough money to fight both states so they believe the ad will dent Obama's victory margin or even sink him if enough older people participate on May 6th.

It's obvious now that Obama is a damaged candidate because of the Rev Wright and small town bitterness comments.

The Democratic party will face another McGovern type disaster if Obama is the nominee in the general election.

This fear will drive many of the super delegates to Hillary in June and force her to pick Obama as her running mate to hold the black vote!

I actually think this is good for Dems overall, it actually is unintentially a reductio ad nauseum on the part of the Republicans trivializing the whole issue. It has been tough enough to make a case quesitioning Obama's character based on his relationship to Wright, but to take it to another degree of separation just makes it look nuts.

'Can you trust the judgement of a man who trusted in the judgement of a man who trused in the judgement of the man who once said "God Damn America!"?' Really? Is that all they have to run on?

I still have not seen an adequate statement from Obama as to whether he believes in Black Liberation Theology - because from his speech it appears that he does.

Obama's silence on this subject is a subject for concern.

This matter has not been put to rest - just to the contrary - if one reads Obama's speech more carefully one will have MORE questions about Obama's belief in Black Liberation Theology, not less.

In fact, Obama appears to be defending the justifications for Black Liberation Theology.

Although Obama appears intolerant of small town people who hunt and go to church, he appears very very tolerant of Rev. Wright and Black Liberation Theology. It's an issue and Obama's people are fooling themselves.

[QUOTE]
So much for Obama's new politics.
Posted by: nclwtk | April 23, 2008 6:02 PM
[/QUOTE]

How do you expect things to change if you don't vote for change?

1. It cannot be denied that this election is making America see the racism that still exists in our country. Let's thank Obama for that. Even before becoming President his effect has been transformational.

2. As has been noted by others, Rev. Wright's comments are shocking and surprising only to whites. (Most) Blacks were already familiar with the kinds of sentiments he expressed.

3. Nominating Clinton lets the Democrats avoid engaging the racists in the GOP. Of course, this primary campaign has brought out the racists in the Dems. So maybe it's a wash.

'That fact is both a good and a bad thing. It's bad in that state parties and outside organizations can confuse and counter the message McCain's campaign is seeking to put out. But, it's good in that these outside groups can also carry a controversial message (like Rev. Wright's fiery sermons) that could well help Republicans at the ballot box but that are too hot for McCain to touch.'

CC tells us it's a 'good thing' that these secretive outside groups can be McCain's surrogates to slime/swiftboat Obama without McCain having to soil himself with them.

Gee, let me guess -- who does CC want to win?

It's pile on time. All the nastiness grows worse as the big egos fall over themselves to ruin each and every person on the way to hell. So much for Obama's new politics.

The name of that group should always be written: Swift Boat Veterans for So-Called "Truth"

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