Obama's $40 Million Haul (And What It Means)
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UPDATE -- 4:15 p.m.: A Clinton campaign source just confirmed to The Fix that the New York Senator collected $20 million in the month of March, roughly half the total amount collected by Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) over the same time frame. Earlier in the day Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said the campaign would not release its fundraising figures until later in the month but acknowledged that her total would not match Obama's.
The Clinton source pointed out that the $20 million haul in March represented Clinton's second best fundraising month in the campaign. While Clinton's numbers mean she will likely be at a cash disadvantage over the final two months of the nomination fight, the $20 million shows that rumors of her financial demise are somewhat overblown.
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Sen. Barack Obama raised better than $40 million for his presidential campaign in the month of March alone, bringing his total raised for the first three months of 2008 to a staggering $134 million.
"Today we're seeing the American people's extraordinary desire to change Washington, as tens of thousands of new contributors joined the more than a million Americans who have already taken ownership of this campaign for change," said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe in a release on the numbers sent to reporters this morning. "Many of our contributors are volunteering for the campaign, making our campaign the largest grassroots army in recent political history."
Obama's campaign announced his take for the month of March just moments before a planned conference call with senior advisers for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Remember what we wrote yesterday that there are VERY few coincidences in modern American politics.)
Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson refused to release Clinton's specific fundraising take on the call although he did note that Obama would outraise his candidate in March as he had done for several recent months. "We will have the resources that we need to compete and be successful in the upcoming primary states," said Wolfson -- echoing the campaign's mantra in recent days. Wolfson said Clinton's fundraising figures would not be made public until the Federal Election Commission required it be done in the middle of this month.
Obama's fundraising machine continues to churn at historic levels. In March alone, 218,000 new donors contributed to Obama's campaign and a total of 442,000 people contributed to the campaign in the last month -- a reflection of the massively broad fundraising pool from which the Illinois Senator is drawing.
We have noted before that barring an Obama upset in Pennsylvania, there are only two ways that the Clinton campaign would end before Montana and South Dakota vote on June 3. The first is some sort of superdelegate stampede to Obama, which, at the moment, seems unlikely. The second is money -- that is, if Clinton can no longer financially sustain her campaign from an ad spending and payroll perspective.
Clinton has already fought back the "running out of money" storyline following the Super Tuesday votes when it was revealed that she had made a $5 million personal loan to do what the campaign needed to do on Feb. 5.
That personal loan seemed to trigger a significant outpouring of money for Clinton from the Internet -- a phenomenon explained by some close to the New York Senator's campaign as a sign that those willing to financially support her simply didn't know she needed their dollars. In today's conference call today, Wolfson insisted that Clinton's financial support on the Internet had and would continue to sustain her campaign.
There are two things to consider when it comes to understanding how money matters in terms of Clinton's future.
The first is that money is not conclusive when it comes to results. As the Clinton campaign is fond of pointing out, she was drastically outspent by Obama in Ohio and Texas and managed to win the primaries in each of those states in spite of that differential. (Obama won a convincing victory in Texas caucuses.) Wolfson pointed out this morning that Obama had outspent Clinton by a four to one margin in Pennsylvania to date but the New York Senator remains in the lead.
The second is that perception matters when it comes to money. If Clinton is perceived to be in financial peril, she becomes a much less attractive investment for donors deciding where to give their money. By the same token, if Obama looks like the nominee, he is sure to vacuum up the campaign cash of fence sitters looking for a winner.
The Clinton campaign is right that past results suggest that they do not need to raise or spend as much money as Obama to win. But, they do have to raise a minimum amount of money in order for her to stay viable. What that minimum amount is remains to be seen, but she cannot afford to have stories about outstanding debts, staff not being paid or gross differential between what she and Obama are spending on television in the remaining ten contests.
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Posted by: mbailiff | April 6, 2008 12:13 PM
Newsweek says that only $7 million of Hillary's $20 million fund raising figure for March is available for the current Primary contest. Her big donors provided General Election dollars to boost the numbers for March. Same thing in February, only $11.5 million out of the $34.5 million she bragged about was use able in the Primary Campaign. So, for March the comparison is really $40 million for Obama to $7 million for Hillary. In February, it was $55 million for Obama to $11.5 million for Hillary.
Posted by: jthomas | April 5, 2008 4:55 PM
Chris,
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone question Senator Obama's claiming to have all these new contributors every month. If you look at the contributors names on your website, not the famours one, you'll see that the same people are giving small amounts 2 or 3 times in the same day. Using the search box, put in any common last name and you can see that this is common in his campaign. So what about his claim that they attracting all these new small donors all the time when the same people are giving say $25 four separate times on the same day?????
Posted by: uskstreet | April 5, 2008 2:20 AM
How much of the $20 M is available for HRC's use now and how much is from maxed out $2,300 donors so that she will have to use the money for the primary but, oh wait, she'll be gone then, won't she.
By the way, I'd like to see a female president as much as the next person, just not this woman. Come on everyone take a look, a long, hard look. I just can't support a woman simply because she's a woman. Integrity first for me!!
Posted by: betty_s13 | April 4, 2008 11:36 PM
How much of the $20 M is available for HRC's use now and how much is from maxed out $2,300 donors so that she will have to use the money for the primary but, oh wait, she'll be gone then, won't she.
By the way, I'd like to see a female president as much as the next person, just not this woman. Come on everyone take a look, a long, hard look. I just can't support a woman simply because she's a woman. Integrity first for me!!
Posted by: betty_s13 | April 4, 2008 11:35 PM
I TRULY BELIEVE, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF LIVING IN A COUNTRY WHERE RED MEN WERE HELD CAPTIVE, BLACK MEN WERE TRADED ,SLAVED AND SOLD, WHITE MEN LIED AND EMBEZZELED MONIES,BROWN MEN WERE USED FOR CHEAP LABOR AND DENIED CITIZENSHIP , THAT WE ARE AMONGST THE WORST OF TERROIST,MORE SO THAN THE ARAB COUNTRIES. I MEAN WHAT DO WE HAVE TO HIDE EXCEPT SHEETS AN WHITE AMERICAN PRIDE , HAIL BARACK OBAMA
Posted by: rrileyelectric | April 4, 2008 10:17 PM
Money will buy him the democratic election but I doubt that he will win the general election. Two things: first once the battle starts between parties I predict that all you will see is the Rev. Wrights' sermons, senator Obama lieing about his not hearing it(they already have one like this) plus they added the video of his not having his hand on his heart while standing with all the other democrats listening to the pledge and our song. It also includes his wife's statement about this being the first time in her adult life that she is proud of her country. The second and big factor is the vicdictive abrassive hate and trash that the Obama fans put out about Hillary. They have all done a better job of trashing one of their own candidates than the republicans can ever do. Many of the people are upset and are thinking of voting for Ralph Nater and some will not vote at all. I have never in my life seen such hate and misstatements about another candidate in my life. Where do these people come from???? I think we all loose when we do not talk issues and just trash the other party. I think people are hoping that Obama will win, I do not think that in the end that will be the outcome. Even governor Richardson has commented that Obama does not have experience and action, not words will mean more. Obama blew it by staying in a church he didn't agree with for 20 years and I think it will be hard for many to forget that. Also this fact was not know before many of the elections that he won, if it were, I do not think he would have had the wins that he did.
Posted by: chacha1 | April 4, 2008 10:12 PM
Senator Obama is spending my hard earned money. See, I want to hire him for president. The best way to do that is to give him the means to do that. So, I give what I can, (which is about $50.00 so far) knock on doors, make phone calls on his behalf. I'm sure the big donors are kicking in, but much of the money fueling Senator Obama's effort comes from me and 1.3 million other regular folks. We are making this happen. I want him to outspend, out-strategize, and out-think Senator's Clinton and McCain so that come November we can out-source the both of them.
Posted by: drcalm | April 4, 2008 9:19 PM
Oh well it's sad how much these Toxic Kool
Aid Drinker Obamabotics Cultists and WAPO
could learn about how sleazy arrogant con
artist cheap Chicago political hack phony
Barack Hussein Obama and his crooked felon
Chicago slumlord Tony Rezko really raised
that $4o Million Dollars,by reading the
Chicago Tribune or Sun Times, and finding
out all about Tony Rezko Lavious hotel
drug parties,while his slum properties
tenants went without heat and Rezko was busy raising political campaign money for
Barack Hussein Obama,that is coming out,
during Tony Rezko Criminal Trial and you
can sure bet Barry Obama was at those
drug parties and getting all the cocaine
Obama wanted. Wise up people Obama is a
fake and fraud and tied to sleazy crooks
in Chicago and big time drug dealers.
Posted by: redheadclaudine | April 4, 2008 6:30 PM
Quote: "Her ideas, her comeback in New Hampshire and strong showing in Nevada, her new openness to explaining herself and not just her programs, and her abiding, powerful intellect show she is fully capable of doing just that. She is the best choice for the Democratic Party as it tries to regain the White House."
svreader, you post this as a reason that Clinton should be the best choice? New Hampshire and Nevada were months ago. A lot has happened since then in case you have been on another planet.
Posted by: wly34 | April 4, 2008 4:28 PM
LOL!!! What it means? It reverses Clinton's prior assertions about electability.
And reflects - I think - the general level of enthusiasm of the backers.
Pretty much ends the hope that the delegates will dare change the outcome of the nomination.
"I have more people voting for me, and more people giving me money - and you think that you can give the nomination to Hillary? Let me just email my donor list . . . "
Posted by: DonJasper | April 4, 2008 4:17 PM
From the NYT --
Editorial
Primary Choices: Hillary Clinton
This generally is the stage of a campaign when Democrats have to work hard to get excited about whichever candidate seems most likely to outlast an uninspiring pack. That is not remotely the case this year.
The early primaries produced two powerful main contenders: Hillary Clinton, the brilliant if at times harsh-sounding senator from New York; and Barack Obama, the incandescent if still undefined senator from Illinois. The remaining long shot, John Edwards, has enlivened the race with his own brand of raw populism.
As Democrats look ahead to the primaries in the biggest states on Feb. 5, The Times's editorial board strongly recommends that they select Hillary Clinton as their nominee for the 2008 presidential election.
We have enjoyed hearing Mr. Edwards's fiery oratory, but we cannot support his candidacy. The former senator from North Carolina has repudiated so many of his earlier positions, so many of his Senate votes, that we're not sure where he stands. We certainly don't buy the notion that he can hold back the tide of globalization.
By choosing Mrs. Clinton, we are not denying Mr. Obama's appeal or his gifts. The idea of the first African-American nominee of a major party also is exhilarating, and so is the prospect of the first woman nominee. "Firstness" is not a reason to choose. The times that false choice has been raised, more often by Mrs. Clinton, have tarnished the campaign.
Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton would both help restore America's global image, to which President Bush has done so much grievous harm. They are committed to changing America's role in the world, not just its image.
On the major issues, there is no real gulf separating the two. They promise an end to the war in Iraq, more equitable taxation, more effective government spending, more concern for social issues, a restoration of civil liberties and an end to the politics of division of George W. Bush and Karl Rove.
Mr. Obama has built an exciting campaign around the notion of change, but holds no monopoly on ideas that would repair the governing of America. Mrs. Clinton sometimes overstates the importance of résumé. Hearing her talk about the presidency, her policies and answers for America's big problems, we are hugely impressed by the depth of her knowledge, by the force of her intellect and by the breadth of, yes, her experience.
It is unfair, especially after seven years of Mr. Bush's inept leadership, but any Democrat will face tougher questioning about his or her fitness to be commander in chief. Mrs. Clinton has more than cleared that bar, using her years in the Senate well to immerse herself in national security issues, and has won the respect of world leaders and many in the American military. She would be a strong commander in chief.
Domestically, Mrs. Clinton has tackled complex policy issues, sometimes failing. She has shown a willingness to learn and change. Her current proposals on health insurance reflect a clear shift from her first, famously disastrous foray into the issue. She has learned that powerful interests cannot simply be left out of the meetings. She understands that all Americans must be covered -- but must be allowed to choose their coverage, including keeping their current plans. Mr. Obama may also be capable of tackling such issues, but we have not yet seen it. Voters have to judge candidates not just on the promise they hold, but also on the here and now.
The sense of possibility, of a generational shift, rouses Mr. Obama's audiences and not just through rhetorical flourishes. He shows voters that he understands how much they hunger for a break with the Bush years, for leadership and vision and true bipartisanship. We hunger for that, too. But we need more specifics to go with his amorphous promise of a new governing majority, a clearer sense of how he would govern.
The potential upside of a great Obama presidency is enticing, but this country faces huge problems, and will no doubt be facing more that we can't foresee. The next president needs to start immediately on challenges that will require concrete solutions, resolve, and the ability to make government work. Mrs. Clinton is more qualified, right now, to be president.
We opposed President Bush's decision to invade Iraq and we disagree with Mrs. Clinton's vote for the resolution on the use of force. That's not the issue now; it is how the war will be ended. Mrs. Clinton seems not only more aware than Mr. Obama of the consequences of withdrawal, but is already thinking through the diplomatic and military steps that will be required to contain Iraq's chaos after American troops leave.
On domestic policy, both candidates would turn the government onto roughly the same course -- shifting resources to help low-income and middle-class Americans, and broadening health coverage dramatically. Mrs. Clinton also has good ideas about fixing the dysfunction in Mr. Bush's No Child Left Behind education program.
Mr. Obama talks more about the damage Mr. Bush has done to civil liberties, the rule of law and the balance of powers. Mrs. Clinton is equally dedicated to those issues, and more prepared for the Herculean task of figuring out exactly where, how and how often the government's powers have been misused -- and what must now be done to set things right.
As strongly as we back her candidacy, we urge Mrs. Clinton to take the lead in changing the tone of the campaign. It is not good for the country, the Democratic Party or for Mrs. Clinton, who is often tagged as divisive, in part because of bitter feeling about her husband's administration and the so-called permanent campaign. (Indeed, Bill Clinton's overheated comments are feeding those resentments, and could do long-term damage to her candidacy if he continues this way.)
We know that she is capable of both uniting and leading. We saw her going town by town through New York in 2000, including places where Clinton-bashing was a popular sport. She won over skeptical voters and then delivered on her promises and handily won re-election in 2006.
Mrs. Clinton must now do the same job with a broad range of America's voters. She will have to let Americans see her power to listen and lead, but she won't be able to do it town by town.
When we endorsed Mrs. Clinton in 2006, we were certain she would continue to be a great senator, but since her higher ambitions were evident, we wondered if she could present herself as a leader to the nation.
Her ideas, her comeback in New Hampshire and strong showing in Nevada, her new openness to explaining herself and not just her programs, and her abiding, powerful intellect show she is fully capable of doing just that. She is the best choice for the Democratic Party as it tries to regain the White House.
Posted by: svreader | April 4, 2008 3:08 PM
Quote: "PS... Obama won TX? If mob rule wins, democracy looses... is that what you want? Were you at the precinct caucuses? He can have the caucus vote, it would never hold up as democratic. Talk about winning at all costs, he will even sacrifice democratic principles to win. Hillary won the popular in TX vote fair and square."
Yes I was, and it was all fair and square . If it was not in your caucus then it is the fault of your chairman and lack of planning. Does this mean that I favor the Texas two step. No, I don't. It's an odd way to run an election. But it was set up many years ago to help Jimmy Carter by the democratic party. It has been in effect for decades and has just not mattered till this year.
Posted by: wly34 | April 4, 2008 2:58 PM
leichtman. I was reporting the results of the exit polls, nothing more, nothing less. No matter what you think, rant on, and vote for the proven liar. Take a look at her record with education in Arkansas. Take a look at her record with health reform when she was too stupid to consult with her own leaders and turned them off to the point where her health reform was laughed off the board.
Take a look at the records of her attending pro-NAFTA meetings while she was "against" NAFTA all along. Take a look at the statements of dodging sniper fire at the airport in Bosnia, while the other side of the screen showed her being greeted by a long line of people including a little girl. "That's the way it happened" she said, while the comedian with her said the only "red phone moment was deciding where to eat next".
Take a look at all this and then vote for Senator Clinton if you wish, and then deny that it doesn't reflect on your judgement.
Posted by: wly34 | April 4, 2008 2:33 PM
Quote: Do you want the Feds spending 4 times as much...."
No I want them to pay their bills which Hillary Clinton is not doing to save money because she believes that she should be the ordained president:
Quoting: "Clinton's camp has put off paying bills for months, earning campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.
Hillary Rodham Clinton's cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months -- freeing up cash for critical media buys but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.
A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community -- and anyone else who will listen -- to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter."
Posted by: wly34 | April 4, 2008 2:25 PM
Quote: "I think everyone is going to be sorry if he wins the Primary and the Nov. election! Black on white this time around if he wins!"
Another under-educated Clinton supporter. Which primary? They are almost over and he leads.
Posted by: wly34 | April 4, 2008 2:04 PM
Sen. Clinton came into this campaign with the Clinton name, entire Clinton campaign machinery, and senior member of the party supporting her. She was expected to overwhelm to opposition. The campaign projected invincibility. With that in mind, consider what Sen. Obama has achieved over the last 4 months. He has raised over 200,000 millions dollar outside of the traditional party fundraising machine, won more popular votes and delegates to date. He has to outspend her to compete with her because she is the establishment candidate.
Moreover, his fundraising achievement in March is simply astounding given the negative media coverage he has received for something he did not say. Still, he must close out Senator Clinton to win the nomination.
P.S to all those supporters of Clinton and Obama who said they will for McCain if the person you are backing does not win, remember the President select Supreme Court Judges, the Attorney General and has the ability to veto legislation that might be beneficial to average Americans.
Posted by: wblair1 | April 4, 2008 1:57 PM
There's a tide in the affairs of America today, and Obama is riding high on the crest. America is voting with its pocket book. And the whole world can't wait to see a positive change. The world has often looked up to America for intellectual, economic, democratic, and cultural leadership. The events in the past 6 or so years, have crippled America's prestige in international affairs. Both the world and American consensus seemed to favour Obama in leaps. Let's give him our blessings for a fresh, new world.
Posted by: gateinstitute | April 4, 2008 1:35 PM
As someone who donates to Obama's campaign each month, I can tell you that McCain needs to worry. Our donations will really start kicking in when the fight with the Republicans begins. As for those of you who say you will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination, I hope you are on board for the war with Iraq and Iran, the draft, and more economic disaster in our country. Yeah four more years of Bush policies!
Posted by: mbpotter84 | April 4, 2008 12:36 PM
My only disappointment in Obama's policies is leaving the medical needs of the country in the hands of the insurance companies that were greatly responsible for the dismal state of health care in the US, which has a very adverse effect on quality of life compared with any other developed country.
I am lucky, I moved to St Petersburg Russia and have been able to have high quality personalized treatment, a total hip replacement, for $6000 And full coverage insurance for $28 a month. Compare the long waits, high hospital infection rates, overstressed staff, and impersonal service in the US with, say, Finland or Denmark or France or where ever you look. Single payer is the only system that can fix what the "unfettered marketplace" has done to the middle class, working poor, quality of life, and hope in the US since Trickle Down Economics became the ruling policy of the land.
I sent my contribution to Obama, the first candidate that excited me enough to get involved again, and will return to the States just long enough to help any way I can to make Change a realty through a grass-roots driven sweep of both houses and the office of president. I will work against dems as well as republicans who supported the war, the give-away to the corporations and supported trade policies that have ruined the hopes and dreams of a decent secure life, with a good job for millions of Americans. The war, the economy, corporate take over the government, criminal foreign policy, corruption of the current administration and second class education systems are all going to change or the US is finished as a power. This really is the most important election is a hundred years.
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Posted by: curt.1 | April 4, 2008 12:17 PM
Why isn't someone questioning where Obama's donations are coming from? Are they all legal, he surely cannot collect that much money from the internet so where is it coming from? Make him disclose WHERE and How MUCH. I also want to know WHAT CHANGE! Change WHAT? What is in His WALLET? His wife does not sound like a person who should be a First Lady in this Great US of A.
He has friends that are crooks and you are seen as with the company you keep. He is lazy and never accomplished anything so where did the money come from to buy his house? Someone that didn't have much and buys a big expensive house which was discounted for him. I think everyone is going to be sorry if he wins the Primary and the Nov. election! Black on white this time around if he wins!
Posted by: alfredarodgers | April 4, 2008 12:14 PM
Hillary's $20 million is even less impressive since it comes from fundraisers - big donors. Many of these people have already maxed out their $2300.
It continues to baffle me how her fanatical supporters online never seem to translate into major online donations. I'm sure Hillary would rather you guys cut her a cheque, rather than just coming online and badmouthing Obama.
Some people say Clinton's financial mismanagement of her campaign is a bad omen for her management of the economy. What about her healthcare plan? Hillary promised all her campaign workers health insurance as part of their packages, but the premiums are more than two months in arrears.
Would the insurers pay up if a Clinton staffer got sick now? Or would it all collapse in a big mess like her other healthcare plans?
Will she tell her loyal workers, sorry, I spent your healthcare premium on advertising?
PS Nice going Rugman, you misspelled "Iraq", "Saddam", "Muslim" and even "Freedom"!
Posted by: Bud0 | April 4, 2008 12:04 PM
WELL' MR.CILLIZZA, YOU CAN DO HAND;S-
SPRING;S NOW SOME-THING YOU AND OPRAH]
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SOME-TIME,
NOW, PROVING THAT YOU DONT EVEN HAVE
TO BE AN AMERICAN; IF YOU HAVE THE
MONEY; YOU CAN DO ANY-THING, OBAMA IS
A MUSLIN' I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU AND
OPRAH; ARE BUT YOUR HEART IS BEHIND
[SADAM]I HAVE NEVER HEARD TELL, OF
ETHER ONE OF YOUR-BUNCH HAVE IN THE
GUT;S TO PUTING THE UNIFORM OF THE
U,S,A, AND FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU CALL FREDOM. TO SPOUT ANY THING OUT
OF YOUR, CHICKEN-CHIT;; MOUTH; WHY DONT
YOU GO TO IRAK' I GUESS YOU COULD
FIND 1000;S THAT WOULD TRADE THEIR
WEAPON. FOR YOUR TYPE-WRITER..
Posted by: rugman | April 4, 2008 11:49 AM
money is freedom
Posted by: nclwtk | April 4, 2008 11:38 AM
Maybe the Republicans have figured out something that
you have not figured out. Everybody send him ten bucks.
Go McCain
Posted by: alrascal11 | April 4, 2008 11:07 AM
The selfish, arrogant Clintons, Shrillary & slick Willie, and their so-called political gurus devised a Shrillary primary strategy based on the "inevitability" of her winning the nomination by Super-Tuesday.
Therefore, the entire Shrillary campaign was based on this stategy; in other words, Obama and the rest of the primary candidates would have been history by Super-Tuesday. Moreover, the expenditure of their campaign war chest was based on this strategy, with a substantial share of their war chest spent by Super-Tuesday.
The same so-called political geniuses never counted on Obama igniting a powerful political movement before it was too late, and he decisively won 11 primaries in a row. Significantly, the upstart Obama planned for a long run in the primaries and figured out how to use high-tech in raisng money, i.e., the INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now the Clintons and their gurus are frantically trying to stay in the race, and stooping to smear tactics in a feeble attempt to oust Obama.
Here you have a candidate, Shrillary, who professes to be the strongest Demo candidate, with her questionable 35-years of experienc, but she cannot even manage her campaign funds purdently.
And she wants to manage the entire multi-billion federal budget as Prez? Give us a break. GO OBAMA GO. Forrest Gerard
Posted by: fgerard | April 4, 2008 11:05 AM
Doesn't change the facts- fact, Hillary stands up while Obama clams up. www.politicalamnesia.blogspot.com
Posted by: darlamc | April 4, 2008 10:42 AM
LeftWithNoChoice said,
"I doubt even the DNC likes Obama raising this kind of money. This kind of grassroots power has got to worry them."
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This is the take away message. Obama has raised this money, largely, through grassroots efforts. His campaign is supported by plain folks, like you and me, not by big corporations and lobbyists. There's also a generational dynamic at play here that we shouldn't lose sight of. Obama's campaign represents a shift in the power dynamics in Washington. Whether he'll be ultimately be successful or not does remain to be seen. But, he has thus far proven himself to be a force to be reckoned with, primarily due to his ability to motivate grassroots financial and political support.
Posted by: CarolBG | April 4, 2008 10:35 AM
amazing how much $$$ is used for these campaigns....wasted much of it.
Also, anyone interested in politics/presidential race should definitely check out http://www.savagepolitics.com
Their articles are like nothing I have read in any of the current media outlets. It is brilliant writing plus it offers a great community in which to discuss. The editor actually takes time to answer and the political humor section is awesome!!!
Posted by: elsylee28 | April 4, 2008 10:32 AM
obama is never called on regarding his lies.he said the Kennedy's helped his
gamily financially to come to america from kenya.he said they personally helped him...a lie he was over here a year before the kennedy's got invloved with bringing blacks over from kenya...lies...lies...lies.
judgegment,ayrs,rev wright,renko......but his cult followers are believers and give money.....
Posted by: miller.teresa | April 4, 2008 10:32 AM
Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson refused to release Clinton's specific fundraising take on the call although he did note that Obama would outraise his candidate in March as he had done for several recent months.
"We will have the resources that we need to pay me and my pathetic loser colleagues, who organized and ran this half-as sed campaign. But then again, don't criticize us, our candidate lies all the time, just like me!!!"
Posted by: queenskid | April 4, 2008 10:29 AM
Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson refused to release Clinton's specific fundraising take on the call although he did note that Obama would outraise his candidate in March as he had done for several recent months.
"We will have the resources that we need to pay me and my pathetic loser colleagues, who organized and ran this half-as sed campaign. But then again, don't criticize us, our candidate lies all the time, just like me!!!"
Posted by: queenskid | April 4, 2008 10:28 AM
The HRC campaign at least paid off her past due employee health insurance bills. That was way too embarrassing for her to leave go any longer. But many old bills remain unpaid. She still owes Cal State Northridge over $13,000 from a campaign event there in January during the run up to the super Tuesday California primary.
Posted by: snodman | April 4, 2008 10:14 AM
"By the way, this Democrat will vote for McCain over Obama any day."
Sockpuppet alert!!!
Posted by: JEP7 | April 4, 2008 10:09 AM
By the way, this Democrat will vote for McCain over Obama any day. One is a hero. Obama was selling drugs on the streets while McCain was being beaten in Vietnam!
Posted by: afellow1 | April 4, 2008 10:05 AM
By the way, this Democrat will vote for McCain over Obama any day. One is a hero. Obama was selling drugs on the streets while McCain was being beaten in Vietnam!
Posted by: afellow1 | April 4, 2008 10:04 AM
Why would anyone give money to an unknown candidate such as Obama. He has absolutely no track record in the state or U.S. Senate, but he can talk. A lot of horrible leaders in the world were good talkers. When this much money is going into a campaign it says two things: first, someone wants something (perhaps his indicted friend) or second, the Republicans see him as an easy target to beat in the fall. Simply, Obama is a menace and a very fearful one at that. Beware!
Posted by: afellow1 | April 4, 2008 10:02 AM
Money does not guarantee success at the polls. However, money certainly helps the cause.
Money gives the candidate and his/her spouse the time to campaign; small bank accounts force candidates to spend precious time at fund raisers, rather than with voters.
Money makes extensive grassroots operations possible (volunteer recruitment and training, voter registration, get the vote out operations, message outreach, etc.). Such efforts require multiple campaign offices per state--expensive operations to say the least.
No doubt, Obama's fund-raising wizardry and extraordinary resource management are major factors in his success.
But make no mistake, Obama's success goes beyond great resource management. Obama's campaign is very well managed. His camp created an identity people could relate to; his camp has effectively handled the most controversial and contentious of issues head on; his camp retains control and order in the house--his campaign staff exercises extraordinary discipline and cooperation. Overall, his campaign team is pretty remarkable.
Posted by: txgall | April 4, 2008 9:13 AM
hillary supporters are not just saying if she doesn't get the nominee they will vote for mc cain....we are truthful. i have been and have voted democrat for years now.i am a typical middle age "white" female. but if obama wins this nominee i will and I know alot of others that will do what they say and not vote for obama.its not we will cool down....wake up, hillary supporters are telling the truth. mccain would be far better than obama. i will also leave the democrat party. too many new members that are way too liberal for me. obama is way to liberal and DOES NOT tell the truth...plus the good ole boys in the democrat party are
getting too old and not in touch with reality.
Posted by: miller.teresa | April 4, 2008 9:09 AM
I find velostrummer's comments very offensive. its people like you that makes this world a bad place.how dare you make such nasty comments.In my opinion the obama supporters are rude and mean. i think the issue is more than raising 40 million, he made raised 55 mil in february which is a shorter month, so I would say his raising money for his campaign is down,but I realize he is the saints of all saints.wholly than god. noone can say anything against him or you'll be called a racist.i can't wait to see how he detroys this country and what all you supporters will be saying, you bought into bush now this man.wake up america your choices are ruining our country..take a look at this website.he says one thing to the public and another things in private.wake up.....
electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml
Posted by: miller.teresa | April 4, 2008 8:58 AM
Putting this in its proper perspective...How elementary is it to base the "hiring" of the most important job in this country (which by the way, does not list a "must-have" requirement for fundraising experience) on the amount of money that someone has raised. It's been established that he's a great motivational speaker, but what has he done besides talk?? What can he bring to the table, besides saying grace? I see the significance in the timing of the news analysis that a growing number of the recent generations of our students aren't graduating, which is the same growing number that we have entrusted to make an intelligent vote. Based on this analogy, I just don't believe that my 10 year-old daughter who sold the most Girl Scout cookies in our area should be Troop Leader. I just don't think she's ready.
Posted by: MsAh1on1 | April 4, 2008 8:58 AM
I think Oprah just bought herself a president. Hope he doesn't turn out to be another Dr. Phil or the plagaristic author.
Posted by: consignjp | April 4, 2008 8:10 AM
Yes there is no doubt about it - we get the best candidates that money can buy.
Posted by: consignjp | April 4, 2008 8:07 AM
What does it mean? You might consider adding this to your list, Chris: it means that there are over a million people (like me) all across this nation who are already so invested in Barack Obama's campaign that we will work to protect that investment in the future not only with an unprecedented and ongoing donation stream - what's a million times $2,300? (and the number of donors just keeps growing) - but also with boots on the ground whenever needed.
Just loving springtime walks, I'm already held discussion groups the last couple of weeks and have signed up to canvas my whole subdivision (and we don't vote till May). This is bottom-up politics, Chris, in a way that I've not seen before (in all my 59 years) and I'm LOVIN' it! It's rewriting the book, hon. Watch and learn!
Posted by: miraclestudies | April 4, 2008 7:40 AM
harlemboy: While I wouldn't totally disregard the GE poll numbers, at this early date they don't mean a whole lot. Why? Because they're undoubtedly skewed by the hard feelings of Clinton supporters, who haven't had the opportunity to cool off. That's why it's critical to get this mess resolved as soon as possible and get everyone back under the big tent.
Telling a pollster that you'll vote for McCain is a no-cost way to act out. It's a very different matter when you're thinking it over in October, after all of the ghouls and zombies have come pouring out of the GOP caves to threaten us with 4 more years of destructive policies.
Posted by: zoot1 | April 4, 2008 2:03 AM
blarg, you do not know rich people then if yo think that they donate more $$. Liberals are not known to be generous, and there are several reports about it in the news. Ask George Will..
Posted by: leisa23 | April 4, 2008 1:44 AM
PS... Obama won TX? If mob rule wins, democracy looses... is that what you want? Were you at the precinct caucuses? He can have the caucus vote, it would never hold up as democratic. Talk about winning at all costs, he will even sacrifice democratic principles to win. Hillary won the popular in TX vote fair and square.
Posted by: leisa23 | April 4, 2008 1:31 AM
Hello... Saturation can become sickening... for a man that says too much money is a bad thing, he sure does not seem to mind using it. Look at how much money he has given to the super delegates compared to Clinton...
I HOPE that people will start looking at facts, figures and actions before they believe words... best of luck to you all.
Posted by: leisa23 | April 4, 2008 1:27 AM
Where did her huge war chest go? Well, she was so sure that the nimination would be a cake walk that she spent like a drunken sailor on shore leave---staying at the Ritz and only having the best of everything. Now she can't pay her bills or her staff's healthcare premiums. Wonder how she would run the country??
Posted by: clsvt | April 3, 2008 10:59 PM
wly34: I usually type on a pda, sorry if my typing doesn't measure up to your Obama standards, obviously another cheap shot by you to show your superiority.
You knew exactly what you were doing when you posted that polls show HC voters are uneducated. Again it is exactly that type of arrogance and superiority that have the HC supporters totally fed up with your supposedly uplfiting campaign. It has absolutely nothing to do with issues or policy differences its just another in a long line of cheap shots. Personally I see it yor's as an elitist campaign that shares some of the elements of W's philosophy of our way or the highway. Perhaps that is why Sen Obama is turning off blue collar voters in Scranton, Gary and Youngstown places your campaign has done extremely poorly. In fact one of your supporters actually used that totally arrogant message here yesterday, leave the Dems Party doesn't need the HC supporters, clever. Many of us in the HC campaign have been involved in and run Democratic campaigns for 20-30 years some of us at very high levels in the party, but yet we are treated by our opponents as "scum and traitors" and told we are nothing but a bunch of uneducated country bumpkins that just fell off the turnip truck who can't possibly be smart enough to appreciate the attraction of your candidate. Many of us have read his books, read his policy positions and attended his speeches(I traveled to Austin UT to find out what his alure was and kept back sorely disappointed.)
Last night HC debated Jim Cramer on Mad Money about hedge funds, the sovereign funds,Carry Trade, and Bear Sterns bailout. You see many of us follow economics and markets were impressed with the breath and debth of her understanding of these complex issues, and don't just gaga when we hear the word Change.
HC supporters are uneducated, right. Tell that to my rabbi, the neurosurgeon,investment bankers, lawyers and accountants at my neighborhood precinct caucus last month supporting HC and willing to take their weekend to attend our Distrit Convention they are nothing but uneducated HC supporters.
I have read your post quite carefully and understand exactly what you were getting at by telling other bloggers that the polling shows that the HC voters are uneducated. We understand, we get it you want to run an elitist superiority campaign that puts down 13 million HC supporters, white collar and blue collar.
See how far that strategy gets you IF your candidate outmuscles his way to the nomination. HC supporters are already fed up with constantly being maligned and denigrated. Keep it up with such post and you will lose the entire 13 million of us. Lets see how far that sense of arrogance gets you. My guess, not very far.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 9:46 PM
baa baa, the same way God used Pharoh to finance Josephs dream , it will be your money that finances Baracks dream, then he will sit back puff a cigarette , bowl a strike and it will be GODD DAMNN WRIGHT! from P>riley as whitegirl
Posted by: rrileyelectric | April 3, 2008 9:09 PM
baa baa, the same way God used Pharoh to finance Josephs dream , it will be your money that finances Baracks dream, then he will sit back puff a cigarette , bowl a strike and it will be GODD DAMNN WRIGHT!
Posted by: rrileyelectric | April 3, 2008 9:06 PM
Nubby sees it clearly. Obama's appeal to actual Americans, the kind who have jobs and actually care enough about their country to throw $100 at a candidate, is not just going to work wonders for the DNC. The one good thing Bush has done for this country is convince us that we can't afford to let the gold brickers and lobbyists treat DC as their litter box anymore.
It's going to open a lot of eyes to see how much better this "inexperienced" President Obama is going to be, compared to the bloated bumblers and corrupt incompetants in there now!
Posted by: gerold.firl | April 3, 2008 8:46 PM
Come on people, $40 million? Look at the other months! CNN just reported that over 1.4 million people contributed to Obama, and the average investment is around $96 bucks. I don't think people in DC even know what a real Grass Roots wave looks like anymore....that kind of fundraising would do wonders for the DNC. Don't let cynicism get in the way of the obvious-Obama is the peoples candidate!
Posted by: nubond | April 3, 2008 8:11 PM
I wanted to add my Rx's for February was over $700.00 and I paid less than $25.00, this does not include my Oxygen machine at home and the Tanks I use whenever I go out. My speed buggy [Battery Powered Wheelchair] has a built in place in back where I can put the tanks , for which I pay nothing, and they bill something around $400.00 a month, but accept what Medicare and Medicaid pays.
Posted by: lylepink | April 3, 2008 7:18 PM
And, leightman, with all of that education, you should learn how to punctuate.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 7:00 PM
leichtman, you are hilarious. I don't care how educated you and your wife claim to be, that doesn't change the exit polls. That's what they say, not me. But if the shoe fits, wear it.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 6:58 PM
wly34 I have a JD and my wife 2 masters;how about you turkey have you made it out of high school yet?
'living proof that the Clinton supporters are the least educated as the exit polls show.'
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 6:53 PM
Quote: "He cannot. Supers will decide. If Hillary
ends the primaries with more votes (sorry,
NotGonnaQuit... ;-), Obama's "will-of-people"
argument is over.
Hillary Clinton won't even be in the race for the super delegates to decide. The upcoming Clinton fraud trial will take care of that.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 6:28 PM
The health care issue is something I KNOW just a tad about. These past few months I cannot even think most of you would have any idea of the cost involved when a serious illness is suspected and the amount of tests involved. The cost of all the tests I have been through is staggering. A PET-scan and CT-scan are the most expensive ones, but when you figure in all the X-Rays, Breathing tests, Stress tests, Blood tests, and other tests I can't think of off hand,and so many Dr.s are involved with reading/evaluating them. I have both Medicare and Medicaid and I pay nothing out of pocket. My covered Rx's are covered as well with my cost a little over $3.00 for a 30 day supply. This is what most of us think "Single payer" is about and should be available to everyone.
Posted by: lylepink | April 3, 2008 6:22 PM
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Posted by: jon.morgan.1999 | April 3, 2008 6:20 PM
Is it just me or do the Clinton's remind you of Mugabe. I mean, they had an election in Zimbabwe that he lost, but rather than just go, he is wrecking the entire country, "fighting to the last man", demanding a revote, even claiming some region where some of his mythical supporters are was unfairly excluded or undercounted. I'd bet he thinks he's Rocky Balboa, too.
Posted by: mibrooks27 | April 3, 2008 6:19 PM
"In today's conference call today"
I think accuracy needs to be prioritized more at the Post, and speed less. I'm seeing more and more basic errors on this site.
Posted by: jon.morgan.1999 | April 3, 2008 6:18 PM
Dream on straighmedia. Learn to read. Oh I forgot, living proof that the Clinton supporters are the least educated as the exit polls show.
All this is moot when the democratic party forces her out when the Clinton fraud trial in California starts. She will be one of the witnesses along with her Hollywood supporters. Hilarious. But the Clinton's have lied under oath before.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 6:16 PM
"straighmedia, funny that Obama wound up with more TX delegates than Hillary, even when Hillary won the popular vote. Why? Because Hill's people did not figure out the Texas Two-Step until late in the game while Obama's folks studied and dissected the process a year ahead the more arcane rules of TX electioneering. That is called "due diligence" in legal circles."
Ain't it the truth. Hillary claimed such surprise to learn of the Texas two step. It existed in both of her husband's elections. But she is so "experienced". Yeah right.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 6:11 PM
Here is my personal voting rule. My only one. NEVER vote for a candidate that has endorsements from both The New Black Panther Party, and Ludacris. Just something to think about - http://nationalsquib.com/index.php/barack-obama-ludacris/
Posted by: marcusn1 | April 3, 2008 5:59 PM
since you Libs have such trouble thinking for yourselves, here is a new name you can call me. simply highlight the text, hit CTRL-C then go down to the entry box and hit CTRL-V. but as a member of the drindl pack of jackals, I am sure this is one skill you need no instruction to accomplish.
"Zouk is a loony moonbat Lib."
don't worry about the meaning of the words, hillary can alter those meanings for you later.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 5:10 PM
trying to speak Latin will not eliminate the 'simple simon' moniker you richly deserve.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 5:07 PM
Upon review, I retract the pejorative 'king of jackals' and instead submit a proposal that you henceforth be referred to as 'Lunus Chiroptologist'. One who studies moonbats.
Posted by: bsimon | April 3, 2008 5:01 PM
Chris Cilliza...you are slow dude.
A Clinton campaign source places Hillary's March 2008 fundraising haul at $20 million. There was no discussion as how much the dollar split between primary and general election funding.
Usually about one-quarter of Hillary's funds raised are in the general election category. So Hillary actually raised $15 million for the primary in which $9 million has to go to past debts which means Hillary's April 1st cash-in-hand to spend going forward was about $6 million.
Obama raised $40 million in which 10% goes into the general election fund which means Obama raised $36 million for the primaries. Obama had less than a million in debt on March 1st means Obama has $35 million cash-in-hand to spend going forward.
By the end of April Hillary will probably raise total $10 to %15 million!
Hillary is plan is simple. Stay in the race long enough to pay down all her debt and loans, then she will look for the campaign exit door after May 6th.
Posted by: ajtiger92 | April 3, 2008 4:59 PM
King of jackals, thanks for your input. I will give it the consideration it deserves.
Posted by: bsimon | April 3, 2008 4:54 PM
I congratulate you on your willingness to challenge your own preconceived notions, biases and misperceptions.
Posted by: bsimon | April 3, 2008 04:47 PM
Actually, since there is little known about Obama, a preconcieved notion is not possible. a bias, I presume, is anything that is not extreme left and what you call a misperception seems to be perceptive enough to me.
Perhaps you should consider your own advise before doleing it out to others.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 4:52 PM
straighmedia, funny that Obama wound up with more TX delegates than Hillary, even when Hillary won the popular vote. Why? Because Hill's people did not figure out the Texas Two-Step until late in the game while Obama's folks studied and dissected the process a year ahead the more arcane rules of TX electioneering. That is called "due diligence" in legal circles.
Posted by: meldupree | April 3, 2008 4:49 PM
with that logic meldubree we would have Pres. howard Dean, John Kerry, John Connally and Phil Graham all prolific fund raisers.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 4:48 PM
"And here I thought all along it was shaped by leftist professors, hatemongering preachers, dreamy-eyed acolytes, a yen for raising taxes, and an urgent need to shake hands with dictators."
Its good of you to keep an open mind, regarding how much you don't know, or are mistaken about.
I congratulate you on your willingness to challenge your own preconceived notions, biases and misperceptions.
Posted by: bsimon | April 3, 2008 4:47 PM
brigittpj, yeah Obama's campaign took in $15M less than last month. According to sources quoted by WaPO, so did Hillary. Now if you were a CEO of a company or organization (profit or non-profit, your choice), would you pick the person who raised $40M or the person who raised $20M. You make the call. . .
And Hillary has more debt in her campaign than Obama ($8.7M versus $625K, respectively). Who is the better manager of funds?
The numbers make it a no-brainer.
Posted by: meldupree | April 3, 2008 4:46 PM
Apparently there's more to a certain candidate than meets the eye.
The teaser for an upcoming episode of Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel:
"As Senator Barack Obama continues his campaign for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, his every move is scrutinized in detail. To truly understand this rising political star... it's essential to understand the importance of basketball in shaping his identity."
Huh. And here I thought all along it was shaped by leftist professors, hatemongering preachers, dreamy-eyed acolytes, a yen for raising taxes, and an urgent need to shake hands with dictators.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#6270
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | April 3, 2008 4:43 PM
what drives the Obama supporters nuts is that HC has actually been a bipartisan Senator sponsoring tricare to reserves and expansion of rural healthcare, with Lindsy Gramm and worked with McCain on immigration reform and Hatch for stem cell research. Its one thing mark to call yourself bipartisan HC has actually been there. Againn her reaching out to Republicans has upset the Obama supporters who claim they want more bipartisanship but when they see it they scream traitor.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 4:39 PM
Mark - do you really think the Libs want to compare issues, facts and figures. that is surely a losing proposition for them. Better to stick with lies, promises, wild stories, attacks, smears and don't forget hope.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 4:38 PM
-- Sen. Barack Obama has won the overall delegate race in Texas --
-
Golly. That would even matter, if Obama
could reach 2025.
He cannot. Supers will decide. If Hillary
ends the primaries with more votes (sorry,
NotGonnaQuit... ;-), Obama's "will-of-people"
argument is over.
Supers will slide to her in that event -
more votes / tougher fall candidate / no Wright
albatross / Obama on her undercard / unity /
party set up for 16 years
Meanwhile, Obama did not "win Texas". He lost.
This is what happens, when you receive fewer votes...
-
Posted by: straightmedia | April 3, 2008 4:38 PM
I think JEP makes a very valid point regarding the different level and kind of experience between Obama, Hillary, and McCain. McCain and Hillary dropped into DC with golden parachutes, rather than working their way up from the grass roots. Obama is a real person, who just happens to be a brilliant political leader. HRC and McCain are manufactured political products. The donors rolls reflect that reality.
Posted by: gerold.firl | April 3, 2008 4:35 PM
I did not mean to sleight HRC.
Please go to
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd
and type in "Clinton". She has a fine record for a second term junior.
But again, compare to "McCain".
Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 3, 2008 4:31 PM
actually mark the sun New York Times did a detailed front page story a month ago having spoken to many of the Senators who have endorsed Sen Obama and who concluded that Sen Obama's accomplishments were very thin and nothing to write home about. I point to Sen Robt Byrd, the dean of the Senate's comparitive description of HC's time and expertise in the US Senate where he concluded that her service and leadership in the US Senate was extraordinary. I am sure that you can find a link to that front page analysis
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 4:23 PM
JEP7 -
Please go to
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd
Type in "Obama".
Read about his Senate record. It is good for a first term junior.
Then go back and type in "McCain".
Read about his Senate record. Look at how much legislation he as passed on his own. Then call up the bills he has cosponsored.
Notice how many were actually cosponsored with Ds.
If you want a working American government where the extremes of ideology get stifled but where something useful actually gets done, you might want to reconsider the guy who has cosponsored bills across the aisle.
Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 3, 2008 4:15 PM
jellybean1, sounds like Hillary needs a plumber (oh I forgot, she might stiff the plumber, too!) Drip, drip, drip. . .
OBAMA as President on 20 January 2009. I'll be there!
Posted by: meldupree | April 3, 2008 4:14 PM
JEP7
Your assessment of their experience couldn't be more defferential to Obama in its classic reference to Obama having been "places they only read about."
This is reverse racism.
It's fair to say that Clinton and McCain have more Washington experience, and whether you like it or not, when you go to Washington you have to learn the game before you can possibly know who to change it.
Not a great attempt at making a point. Instead you have come off like most Obama supporters on this blog: disdainfull of others and factually bankrupt..
Posted by: vammap | April 3, 2008 4:13 PM
4% points and 101,000 votes according to YOUR spin is a narrow margin. "Clinton narrowly won the popular vote in the state's primary March 4,"
Perhaps your campaign's incessant desire to discuss our month old story is meant to distract us from upcoming elections in Pa, W Va, Ky and Puerto Rico where you know that you are likely to lose substantially even after outspending HC by 3X1, whoppi what a great success story.
Don't understand this absolutely fanatical obsession here for a Texas vote that was split. You lost the direct vote by 4% and won a caucus by spitting and misinformational robo calls by a handfull of delegates. SO WHAT!
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 4:11 PM
JEP - you can shrike that nonsense to the high heavens. No one is going to swallow that, not even a clinton intern.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 4:09 PM
My last comment before I depart. I promise...
The Hillary/Mccain "experience R us" mantra
has been challenged today by a very solid line of reasoning.
Obama started at the local level, went to the state level, then ontoo the national level, with over 4,000 parliamentary debates and hundreds of sponsored bills along the way.
McCain started at the top, using his wife's family money to get elected to the house as a carpetbagger Republican in Arizona (check how long he lived there before he ran)then using even more of it to get to the Senate.
Hillary went directly top the senate, and anyone who denies it was on Bill's coattails is pretending.
So it is quite safe to say that, in terms of multi-level and comprehensive experience as a lawmaker, Obama has them both out-experienced, hands down. He's been places they can only read about.
If you think only DC parliamentary experience equals "experience" you 've been eating too many cocktail weenies.
Obama is by far the most experienced of the three, by any measure but partisan opinion and campaign spin.
Posted by: JEP7 | April 3, 2008 4:05 PM
GREAT THOUGHTS OF RONALD REAGAN
"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?" -- Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966
"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980
"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas." --Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965
"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers." --President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985
"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal." --Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976
"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." --Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)
"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders." --California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966
"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet." --Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964
DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON BUSH!
Posted by: rippermccord | April 3, 2008 4:04 PM
straightmedia, read it and weep.
WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama has won the overall delegate race in Texas thanks to a strong showing in Democratic county conventions this past weekend.
Obama picked up seven of nine outstanding delegates, giving him a total of 99 Texas delegates to the party's national convention this summer. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the other two, giving her a total of 94 Texas delegates, according to an analysis of returns by The Associated Press.
Texas Democrats held both a presidential primary and caucus. Clinton narrowly won the popular vote in the state's primary March 4, earning her 65 national convention delegates to Obama's 61.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 3:59 PM
I am a yankees fan
i never told anyone to lie
I did not share cigars with that woman
that girl at the Mayflower is my cousin
I don't know where those FBI files came from
I didn't fire those travel office workers
I got lucky on futures trading
I have white house experience
I brought peace to Ireland
that money in the freezer is from cookie sales
Just too easy
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 3:55 PM
ANNOUNCING THE JACKSMITH1 BOOK TOUR!
Proving once again that he doesn't know his cousin, Jack S---, Mr. Smith is re-posting the 1 millionth copy of his one-page book, titled "I'm an Idiot, You Might Be."
Mr. Smith has been hard at work for the last year on his eagerly anticipated sequel, a BRAND NEW multi-paragraph insult, expected soon. Don't miss it!
Posted by: rippermccord | April 3, 2008 3:53 PM
Thanks Jack, you got on before me!
In talking about numbers here's an interesting analysis of Obama's weakness as a nominee in November:
There's no way to discount Obama's $40M haul in March, except to say that it provides very little indication where these donations are coming from. Because we already know that Republicans have played a huge role in Obama's caucus victories, there is nothing to say that there isn't the same concerted effort by Republicans to pad his coffers.
Obama has made no secret of building a new kind of coalition which includes disenchanted Republicans, but one would have to be pretty naïve to think that Obama's coalition doesn't also include a hefty number of Republicans hoping that he wins and runs against McCain, not Hillary.
The wisdom of this thinking is verified by recent polls that show Hillary winning over McCain, in November, not Obama. Hillary is not a candidate Republicans would want to boost by giving campaign dollars to, not just because of the Clinton-hate-on, but because she will be the tougher opponent in November.
The other not-so-far fetched numbers issue was brought up by Talking Points Memo. Understanding what the voting demographics will be in a national election as compared to the primaries is important in figuring out which candidate will have, not necessarily more bucks, but a better chance of winning in November. The two are mutually exclusive.
With caucuses removed from the measurement [in order] "to control the distorting effect there may be from this different method of holding the contest, "it was determined that 'racially polarized voting increases with the size of the black population in a given state. That's pretty elementary. It means in states like Louisiana and Mississippi, black voting is disproportionately higher, thus white voting for Obama appears to be much less in comparison.
Because his wins in states with a large black population are primary wins, not the general election, they are not key indicators, because those are GOP states which are most always in the red column. That "means that in most cases the percentage of the black electorate is roughly double [in a primary] than what it is in the general election."
There are three factors which are important in determining whether Obama's lead is concrete enough to become the President in November:
1. Caucuses are not a reliable measurement of an outcome, this year more than ever before, because his campaign is composed of a new untested coalition of voters, many of whom voted intentionally to keep the race going, to vote against Hillary, or to simply become part of the wave. How many of them will vote the same in November? That's a big if.
2. Since the black vote alone can not garner a victory in November, how many cross over Republicans will continue to vote for Obama and how many moderate Democrats will become McCain Democrats?
3. There are a lot of holes in Obama's coalition that even $40M can't erase. Despite spending three to one in PA, though he is getting closer he still hasn't shown he can pull it out. That's the standard he has to meet in PA to fortify his relevance in a campaign where he has not been able to pull ahead in traditional blue states with larger populations that include the traditional Democratic base, other than Black Americans.
Posted by: vammap | April 3, 2008 3:52 PM
why republicans lie about stuff that doesn't even matter.
Like:
I dodged snipers
I invented the internet
I am a war hero
my parents met at a peace march
experience doesn't matter
I listened for 20 years but didn't hear
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 3:52 PM
DON'T BE DUPED !!!
Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.
But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. "Carpe diem" (harvest the day).
I think Hillary Clinton see's a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it's time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children's future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.
Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton's offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama's place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.
"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith...
Posted by: JackSmith1 | April 3, 2008 3:50 PM
and the truth is, once you really look into his record, he was never what he seemed like.
Posted by: drindl | April 3, 2008 03:39 PM
so you admit that you don't consider any facts before shooting off your foul mouth?
you see, we all already knew that, but it is good you are becoming self-aware, through all the hate.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 3:49 PM
drindl,
This looks like a case of your adversaries bringing a spitball to a gunfight.
Posted by: rippermccord | April 3, 2008 3:47 PM
jep7 I too was an Edwards contributor. Has HC caught up in the $10-$100 contributions, I never ever suggested that. But I have daily checked their contribution meter and seen a 5 fold increase in their small contributions which started out woefully small in january. that was my point that you insist on twisting to fit your now mesianic love of Sen Obama. She is doing considerably better with her own small contributors, since Jan and I am sure the facts bear that out. Catching up was a reference to her own base of contributors which is about 30% smaller and not catching up to the larger Obama base or $40 million. I am sure you can slam that comment as well if it gets you going, but is a total waste of my time.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 3:47 PM
drindl's confusion about self and other persists. all those wicked thoughts have perpetrated a fog of confusion on the stilted brain of the moonbat.
Posted by: kingofzouk | April 3, 2008 3:45 PM
KOZ,
I will say this in small syllables so you can make sense of this:
Where is your Mommy? Is she coming back?
Posted by: rippermccord | April 3, 2008 3:45 PM
YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith...
Posted by: JackSmith1 | April 3, 2008 3:44 PM
-- and she LOST in Texas --
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Actual, real TX election / source CNN.com -
Clinton
1,459,814
Obama
1,358,785
Vocal-minority-dominated TX Caucus
Obama
23,918
Clinton
18,620
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Anyone who can't add these up, let me know...
;-)
Hint: Obama received fewer votes.
Darn those facts!
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Posted by: straightmedia | April 3, 2008 3:43 PM
'Is Proud a KOZ sockpuppet? Shades of 2006!'
they share the same 'brain'
Posted by: drindl | April 3, 2008 3:40 PM
'koz, drindl has consistently said she would vote for Mccain over Hillary, going back to last year.'
nope, total lie. what i don't understand is why republicans lie about stuff that doesn't even matter. however the truth is, I USED to respect McCain. But that was before he flipflopped on every possible issue and became nothing but a mindless tool of the neocons.
and the truth is, once you really look into his record, he was never what he seemed like.
Posted by: drindl | April 3, 2008 3:39 PM
Is Proud a KOZ sockpuppet? Shades of 2006!
Posted by: JEP7 | April 3, 2008 3:38 PM
another arrogant Obama supporter who knows everything with certainty. Apparently whatever is best for the Obama campaign is best for the state party who weren't too thrilled with the caucus chaos. Buy hey you are an Obama supporter you know everyone in the party and everything about state politics who are we peons, like our next speaker of the house, to argue with you.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 3:37 PM
Leightman,
OK, here's some cuttin' and pastin'.
...your naive, but refreshingly hopeful "I believe that HC is finally catching up in the $10-$50 contributions" flies in the face of this simple fact, reported by our own intrepid host in this very article..
"In March alone, 218,000 new donors contributed to Obama's campaign"
Can you find me any of Hlllary's numbers (no,not $ totals) that can point to anywhere near those numbers for NEW contributors?
And do you somehow suppose those were all $1000 doners? That would be billions, so simple logic dictates many of these, probably the vast majority, were small donations.
I'm not trying to embarrass you here, but your logic is skewed by at least a hundred thousand head, maybe 200,000. I would almost bet Hillary may have had 20,000 NEW donors, which itself is historically phenomenal, but not hen compared to Obama's conscience-shattering totals...
Seriously, How can Hillary be catching up in small donations with these kinds of overwhelming numbers for Obama, your argument is sadly desperate.
Some of you know me from past eras, and know I was an Edwards supporter, who was commited to supporing whichever Dem won the process, so I am no cult Obama supporter. But I'm also practical enough to see the obvious, and like I said, believing a proven falsehood is delusional, and it is a proven falsehood that Hillary is catching Obama in small-dollar donations.
Or don't these numbers make sense to you? If not, you need to reconsider with an open mind, because the difference is not just big, it is STAGGERING! You are literally hoping against hope here.
And as for "dollars never won a race," go tell that to the Bushes.
Posted by: JEP7 | April 3, 2008 3:35 PM
proudtobeGOP wrote:
According to ripper, the consequences of surrender to AlQaeda and handing them a victory are the same as defeating them and sending a message of our committment to our allies around the world.
Wow! Maybe you should go to work with Gen Petreaus and offer him some of your brilliant advice on how to achieve the best long term outcome in Iraq.
The reduction in violence in Iraq has become incontestable. THAT is the consequence of our efforts and the results of the surge, along with the political reconciliation and achievement of benchmarks. To state that the consequences of our premature withdrawl woudl be the same as our continued support of stability in the region is ludicrous.
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I'll let you and Sen. McCain mistake Shiitte extremists for al Qaeda. I suppose you also wage war on your boxer shorts.
As for your "incontestable" reduction in violence, maybe you missed that thing about Basra and the fact that American casualties have been climbing the past several months. All of which shows that the American occupation is only delaying the bloodbath to come when American forces leave and the retribution of the Shiites will hurl Iraq into the orbit of Iran.
Of course, YOUR expertise is valued about as much as George "Mission Accomplished" Bush, dick "Greeted with Flowers" Cheney and Donald "What? Me Worry" Rumsfeld.
Posted by: rippermccord | April 3, 2008 3:34 PM
koz, drindl has consistently said she would vote for Mccain over Hillary, going back to last year. Back when a Hillary victory was all but certain, drindl had no candidate of preference, except Al Gore. Now she's latched onto Obama out of opportunism more than principle. With friends like her, Obama doesn't need any enemies.
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | April 3, 2008 3:34 PM
leichtman, I know exactly who he is and his statement doesn't make any difference. I have talked to my state representatives and they say, Sorry, it ain't going to change any time soon. The legislature hasn't a thing to do with it.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 3:29 PM
It will all be moot when this trial starts, probably in May. Clinton's own party will force her out in disgrace.
Quote: "As Hillary Clinton's belief in the inevitability of her 2008 ascension to the Oval Office is being shattered by the voters, the landmark civil fraud suit against Bill Clinton, with Hillary as a material witness, is proceeding to discovery and trial in California this Spring."
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 3:26 PM
poor zouk. can't get a job, doesn't havy any friends, has no life at all except to sit on this blog from 12 to 7 every single day and dream about me.
Posted by: drindl | April 3, 2008 3:26 PM
wly if you are from Texas you obviously know who Silvester Turner is, an African Amer. Houston State Rep and Obama delegate who is running for speaker of the house. I believe him over you when he demeaned the 2 step caucus in a Houston Chronicle interview on March 5, and vowed to end it going forward. My resolution at my pct caucus to end the 2 step process was seconded by an Obama law student who agreed that our system is undemocratic and violates the 4th amendment and was approved by unanimous vote; an Obama supporter's speech to our pct not mine. It will not exist in our next election, it was universally condemned by all but the most extreme partisans at least in Harris County one of the largest population masses in the country. For this election it is what it is but it will not exist going forward.
Posted by: leichtman | April 3, 2008 3:24 PM
koz, I sure do remember. drindl was the first to go jackal on McCain, and then the rest followed suit...even the vaunted "independents". Their objectivity has now gone out the door thanks to the Grand Poobah of Hope, aka gutterball.
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | April 3, 2008 3:24 PM
The lie John McCain is telling about a link between al-queda and Iran:
"This isn't the first time Zawahiri has criticized Iran, either. In a videotape released in December, he said that "Iran has stabbed the Muslim Ummah [nation] in the back" during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan.
"It caused itself and the Shiites following it a historic disgrace. The signs of this stab will remain vivid in the Muslims' memory for a very long time. The strange paradox to which I would like to draw attention is the fact that Iran permitted the Crusader troops to enter Iraq, recognized the agent government there, and pushed its militias to participate in this government's army, security services, and police force."
Posted by: drindl | April 3, 2008 3:24 PM
"she was drastically outspent by Obama in Ohio and Texas and managed to win the primaries in each of those states in spite of that differential."" --
Really, I saw more Clinton commercials than I did Obama commercials in Texas, and she LOST in Texas. Obama took the most delegates. Sorry.
Posted by: wly34 | April 3, 2008 3:20 PM
-- The first is that money is not conclusive when it comes to results. As the Clinton campaign is fond of pointing out, she was drastically outspent by Obama in Ohio and Texas and managed to win the primaries in each of those states in spite of that differential. --
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That's right. 1 creative 3 AM ad, trumps
10 Obama "I opposed NAFTA (not really)"
ads...
And you have free media. You work the
local news geeks when you come into town.
They show up and they are easy.
And it comes down to message resonance.
Huckabee proved that early, Obama showed
it early, Hillary has been doing it lately on the
readiness question and also the Known Fighter
aspect. I think working-class Dems are
responding to that.
-- By the same token, if Obama looks like the nominee, he is sure to vacuum up the campaign cash of fence sitters looking for a winner. --
Like Big Oil bundlers of "individual"
contributions...
I think Wolfson is right for now. Most
of the big-check staffers will take an
IOU, and the funds will be there to
keep going / compete. All this Quit
Now garbage hardens her supporters,
and I expect money comes in right off
of that.
Win PA in double-digits - with exit
polling showing Caucasians leaving
Tent Obama - her money goes up,
his starts fa
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Does anyone else remember when Obama was saying that he was postive that Hillary supporters would vote for him but he did not believe that his supporters would vote for Hillary? I laughed hysterically when the gallup pol came out last week and showed that 19% of Obama supporters would not vote for Hillary and 28% of Hillary supporters would not vote for Obama. I found those numbers to be very telling and I think more people should think about those numbers. I hope that after learning everything we possibly can about both of these canidates that the superdelagates will get together and evaluate all of the election results and then make a judgement based on which canidate would be the best leader at this very important moment in our American history. We have an ecconomy that is in a very scary slide, a rising homeless rate, a rising unemployment rate, inflation rising at unprecedented rates, a war that we need to very carefully extract ourselves from in a responsible way not just quickly pulling troops out without regard to their saftey or to the stablization of the Middle East. We need someone who is a known quanity with experience not an unknown quanity who has the potential to be great and the potential to be an absolute disaster all at the same time. Yes I am a Hillary Clinton supporter. The Clintons are far from perfect but I like the devil I know. I am now only begining to learn about the skeletons in Obamas closet. Why did we not hear more about Trinity Church earlier in the campaign? Obama loves to tell people that he was a community organizer helping the less fortunate but what he does not tell you is that he was a community organizer working out of an office in the Trinity Church and the people he was helping were the almost 100% black population on Chicagos east side. This is a community full of drug users and gang bangers who go to Trinity Church on Sunday to hear there pastor tell them that white people are responsible for holding them down. People like reverend Wright are the ones who are holding back there mostly black congregations by perpetuating hatred and keeping their congregations from joining mainstream America. It is not ok to "speak black" the youth need to learn proper english they need to go to school and graduate from high school and then go on to college. The people like reverend Wright who encourage the youth to not lose their heritage should teach them to overcome their heritage instead.