Pennsylvania Primary Prediction Time!
The day Fixistas around the country -- if not the world -- have been waiting for has finally come.
No, not the Pennsylvania primary -- although that is today. We're talking about the arrival of the official Fix t-shirt at the offices of washingtonpost.com. If you've already won one of our primary (or caucus) prediction contests, look for the t-shirt in your mailbox over the next few days. If you want to buy one of the coveted shirts, stay tuned as we are still figuring out how to make that happen.
If you are neither a past winner nor the kind of person who pays for t-shirts -- even those as devastatingly cool as this one -- then this post is for you.
We're looking for the candidates' order of finish and percentage of the vote from today's Pennsylvania Democratic primary election between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton. And, we also want a prediction on the dominant storyline coming out of the contest.
We'll award a Fix t-shirt to the person (or persons) who comes closest to predicting the final outcome and to the individual who most accurately describes the post-Pennsylvania media narrative.
For your pick to count, you MUST register it in the comments section by 8 p.m., when polls officially close in Pennsylvania. Picks e-mailed to The Fix will not be eligible.
Looking for The Fix's prediction? Here it is:
After you make your picks, make sure to watch this piece washingtonpost.com video journalist Akira Hakuta produced after spending a few days in Pennsylvania late last week.
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Posted by: livin_n_the_city | April 24, 2008 2:22 PM
Forget Ambercrombie & Fitch, FIX t-shirts will be all over America after delivery to everyone who got this one right.
Posted by: lappzimm | April 22, 2008 11:56 PM
Clinton 55%
Obama 43%
Storyline: Can Hillary catch Obama in the popular vote. Will it matter if she does?
Posted by: paulalgire | April 22, 2008 7:59 PM
Clinton 55%
Obama 43%
Storyline: Can Hillary catch Obama in the popular vote? Will that matter if she does?
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 7:57 PM
Clinton 55
Obama 44
Big Questions loom for Obama campaign. Can he connect with Reagan Democrats if he gets to the general election?
Posted by: GoHuskies08 | April 22, 2008 7:54 PM
Obama 50.3%
Clinton 49.6%
A Dozen Superdelegates Announce for Obama in Wake of Upset Victory; Party Elders Ramp Up Pressure for Clinton to Withdraw
Posted by: whatmeregister | April 22, 2008 7:52 PM
Clinton 51%
Obama 48%
Hillary wins the round, while Obama fails to get a knockout, but wins on points. Obama announced the nominee by split decision. Hillary: "Yo Adrian!..."
Posted by: Eric Lopez | April 22, 2008 7:50 PM
Clinton 54, Obama 48
Clinton attempts to soldier on but money running out as funding dries up
Repost with name attached
Posted by: SportsBiz | April 22, 2008 7:32 PM
Predicted %ages:
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Predicted Narrative:
Clinton touts "crucial win" and vows to keep going to the convention, Obama touts his "comeback in a state that was tailer-made for Clinton" and his continued strong lead in pledged delegates. Media groans, leaves PA and relocates to Indiana & North Carolina as the never-ending primary carries on.
Posted by: JayPe | April 22, 2008 7:32 PM
Clinton 54, Obama 48
Clinton soldiers on but money running out as funding dries up
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 7:30 PM
Clinton 51
Obama 49
Despite a bad week Obama defies expectations, denying Clinton the decisive victory she needed to justify staying in the race.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 7:24 PM
Clinton 55
Obama 43
Other 2
Clinton claims a "big" win but fails to make up substantial ground in the delegate race. Tired candidates and journalists immediately head west towards Terre Haute, Indiana.
Posted by: Jacob Geiger | April 22, 2008 7:23 PM
Obama 50.1%
Clinton 49.9%
Hillary demands recount
Posted by: Chuck OR | April 22, 2008 7:19 PM
CLINTON - 48
OBAMA - 51
HEADLINE: Paul Tewes delivers another come-from-behind victory for Obama is predominantly white state.
Posted by: JMAC (Sydney) | April 22, 2008 7:17 PM
Clinton - 54%
Obama - 45%
Clinton stays in the Race, however the Race for Delegates Remain Unchanged!
Posted by: Fred, DC | April 22, 2008 7:10 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 46
Win in PA keeps Clinton in the race, but single-digit margin fails to narrow the delegate gap.
Posted by: crodolfa | April 22, 2008 7:08 PM
clinton 52
obama: 46
other 2
edwards has strong support, obama did better than expected, clinton's not quitting without a presidential ambition patch, or at least a case of gum.
Posted by: taylor p | April 22, 2008 7:07 PM
If Obama is the nominee, he should strongly consider asking Clinton to be his VP. Let her be the one to say "no." If he can't do this, he will lose a TON of Clinton voters - and he will lose the general election to McCain.
If Clinton somehow pulls this out, she absolutely MUST ask Obama to be her VP. Then it's up to him to say "yes" or "no."
Together, they are unstoppable.
If they are not together, the Dems will have a tough time against the McCain/Crist ticket. McCain WILL go with Charlie Crist, Governor of Florida.
Posted by: Christina | April 22, 2008 7:01 PM
Obama would be an idiot not to "ask" Clinton to be his VP (assuming he gets the Dem nomination). Let her be the one to say "no" -- if he can't ask, he'll lose a ton of Clinton voters in the general election and will lose to McCain.
If Clinton pulls out the nod, she MUST ask Obama to be her VP. And he can be the one to say "yes" or "no."
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 6:57 PM
Clinton 58
Obama 42
Margin 16%
Posted by: Christina | April 22, 2008 6:54 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Clinton wins but cannot change campaign narrative. Obama still looks like the inevitable nominee. Supers still favor Obama.
Posted by: JtheMann | April 22, 2008 6:51 PM
46% Obama
53% Clinton
1% Other
Storyline: "Too little, too late? Clinton argues that another big win has given her the momentum, but are her wins large enough and her win early enough in the primary season for her to catch up?"
Posted by: Mustafa Hirji | April 22, 2008 6:49 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 44
Clinton tells Obama to drop out afer she wins big in another big state.
Posted by: bscottup | April 22, 2008 6:38 PM
Clinton 52%
Obama 47%
Clinton claims "we won and that's what matters"; Superdelegates don't see things that way and the steady trickle to Barack's column begins.
Posted by: Tom | April 22, 2008 6:36 PM
Clinton: 59%
Obama: 41%
Oldies pull Clinton through!
[Uncle Paulie is a 12 year old master predictor and politics genius]
Posted by: Uncle Paulie | April 22, 2008 6:34 PM
Obama: 50.6
Clinton: 49.4
Surprise victory for Obama puts pressure on Clinton to drop out for good of the party. Clinton backers claim Obama win still too dependent on youth, african-americans and urban voters.
Posted by: ndrwlight | April 22, 2008 6:30 PM
Clinton 52
Obama 48
Headline: Hillary Clinton win PA with non convincing margin. Hillary's is going to be out of the race tonight.
Posted by: Bee | April 22, 2008 6:26 PM
Gore would NEVER win the presidency.
Obama will not have HRC as VP.
Nader is an old fool.
McCain is a bigger than life old fool.
Posted by: Katerina Deligiannis | April 22, 2008 6:16 PM
In PA
Sen. Clinton 57.2%
Sen. Obama 42.4%
undercount/others 0.4
The story should be that Sen. Obama could not spend his to a closer loss or even a win. But, that's too difficult for the majority of the MSM sustain, so the story will go Sen. Clinton wins as expected... headlines won't even refer to being outspent.
Posted by: AndyC | April 22, 2008 6:15 PM
Clinton: 53%
Obama: 47%
Spin on both sides, but all the talk is on the math; Clinton joins Bush in "lame duck" category.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 6:09 PM
Operation Choas is going toward Obama this time.
Obama 60%
Clinton 40%
Really I think it will be
Obama 55%
Clinton 45%
They spilt WHITE MEN
YOUNGER NEW VOTERS VOTE FOR OBAMA 70% TO 30%
Her daughter has not help her very much with younger new votes. Take into consideration that some younger voters will be Voting for McCain
Posted by: MsRita | April 22, 2008 6:05 PM
Operation Choas is going toward Obama this time.
Obama 60%
Clinton 40%
Really I think it will be
Obama 55%
Clinton 45%
They spilt WHITE MEN
YOUNGER NEW VOTERS VOTE FOR OBAMA 70% TO 30%
Her daughter has not help her very much with younger new votes. Take into consideration that some younger voters will be Voting for McCain
Posted by: MsRita | April 22, 2008 6:05 PM
Clinton: 52.5%
Obama: 47.5%
Both sides claim victory, but Clinton drops out before the last state primaries.
Posted by: Iconoblaster | April 22, 2008 5:55 PM
Clinton: 54
Obama: 46
Storyline: Comeback Clinton to fight to Convention; Win seen as swaying superdelegates
Posted by: Dan | April 22, 2008 5:48 PM
Hillary 52.7
Obama 47.3
"Hillary wins, just barely - vows to continue to the convention."
Posted by: Peter L. of Sun City Roseville CA | April 22, 2008 5:48 PM
Clinton 52
Obama 47
Headline: Clinton holds on to win PA
Dominant narrative: Why can't Obama close the deal?
Posted by: Candy | April 22, 2008 5:42 PM
Clinton - 56%
Obama - 44%
Headline: Will Clinton's Win Equal omentum Heading into NC and Indiana?
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 5:38 PM
Clinton: 50%
Obama: 43%
Posted by: Michael | April 22, 2008 5:37 PM
Hillary Clinton - 54%
Barack Obama - 46%
Clinton wins close race, but money woes may force her out.
Posted by: FXSJ | April 22, 2008 5:35 PM
Clinton: 49%
Obama: 44%
Headline: Clinton Wins PA, Sort Of; Little Change in Obama's Delagate Lead. But, Clinton vows to "Fight Until The Convention"; Obama Begins Campaigning In Indy. John McCain rips on Both Dem Candidates
Posted by: rth122 | April 22, 2008 5:23 PM
Clinton 53.5%
Obama 44.8%
Posted by: Kevin Armstrong | April 22, 2008 5:18 PM
Clinton 56%
Obama 44%
With deadlock convention looming and rancor growing between Clinton & Obama supporters, draft Al Gore campaign gains momentum.
Happy Earth Day.
Posted by: curtflood | April 22, 2008 5:16 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 46%
Wolfson and Axelrod spinning furiously.
Posted by: tedjv | April 22, 2008 5:09 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 45
With the voters not helping to decide the contest conclusively, calls mount for the remaining superdelegates to show their hand - but this is more a hope than an expectation.
Posted by: David Gallagher | April 22, 2008 5:09 PM
Clinton: 51
Obama: 48
Two victory speeches, two story lines, same result - a non-result.
Posted by: mschmidt73 | April 22, 2008 5:09 PM
What the heck ...
HRC: 52.7%
BHO: 45.8%
Other: 1.5%
HRC +14 delegates.
Headline: PA votes, glad to send the campaign to NC and IN. Loss of political spending sends PA economy into further tailspin.
Posted by: mnteng | April 22, 2008 5:04 PM
Obama will lose by a small margin ... leaving Hillary to live a few more episodes in the twilight zone ... the t.v. show was a mix of sci-fi, fantasy, and horror ... a world not to unfamiliar to the Hillary's campaign these days. If your interested, read more regarding Hillary resurrecting Rod Sterling on ... http://whatsmybeef.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Stevo | April 22, 2008 5:03 PM
Clinton 55
Obama 45
The struggle continues and continues and continues.
Posted by: wes | April 22, 2008 4:58 PM
Clinton 52.5%
Obama 46.5%
Other 1%
The Show Must Go On!
Obama substantially closed 20% gap in last 6 weeks, but Clinton still wins Keystone State. PA delegates awarded almost equally; spin wars continue; effects on Dem nomination campaign inconclusive. National Dems nervous; calls for Hillary to step down go unheeded; remaining primaries set to continue for 6 more weeks.
Posted by: David in Durham, NC | April 22, 2008 4:57 PM
78% White 58%-41% Clinton
17% Black 89%-10% Obama
5% Other 59%-39% Obama
Total:
Barack Obama 50.1%
Hillary Clinton 48.9%
Clinton to drop out
Posted by: jr1886 | April 22, 2008 4:57 PM
Clinton 53.2
Obama 46.8
Clinton ekes out a win in Pennsylvania, but with her campaign broke, will it make any difference?
Posted by: rippermccord | April 22, 2008 4:51 PM
Clinton 58%
Obama 42%
Voters have no confidence Obama can win general election.
Posted by: raisa_dudu | April 22, 2008 4:50 PM
Luke's Prediction:
*Obama: 50.1%
*Clinton: 49.7%
*Headline: "Obama Upsets Clinton in Keystone State; End to Nomination Fight Now in Sight!"
Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | April 22, 2008 4:49 PM
Clinton 57.2
Obama 42.1
Posted by: ccarter | April 22, 2008 4:44 PM
Clinton 54.3
Obama 45.0
Clinton wins, nomination battle goes on... and on... and on...
Posted by: Daniel | April 22, 2008 4:38 PM
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Not in a million years. I don't want to get shot.
Posted by: Sam in Harlem | April 22, 2008 4:32 PM
Clinton 50.5, Obama 48.5. Storyline: on the one hand Obama can't close the deal and hasn't won a big state outside Illinois. On the other hand, HRC didn't do enough to make a dent in Obama's lead and is running out of time.
Posted by: Sean Wright | April 22, 2008 4:30 PM
svreader wrote:
"Even if it gets nasty, we can swallow anything that come our way, either that or spit it out."
Just don't let it get on your blue dress. I here its a mess to get out.
Posted by: johnny five | April 22, 2008 4:28 PM
Clinton 53.5
Obama 46.5
Headline: Clinton Does Well Enough to Keep Going.
Reality: Clinton Hangs On For 7 Point Victory
Posted by: john91011 | April 22, 2008 4:27 PM
Clinton 49.4
Obama 48.6
Posted by: Billy from Odenton MD | April 22, 2008 4:26 PM
C:52
Mr. O:47
The headline: PAIN in Pennsylvania. Blue collars got the blues, Obama says he "pities those fools" and moves on to North Carolina. 'Pitty-gate' quickly overwhelms the news-cycle after HRC's win. Hillary releases last ditch ad titled: "(Although he doesn't have a mohawk and gold chains) Don't you realize he's black?"
A-Team makes a resurgence, only good outcome of the never-ending Dem race.
Posted by: muaddib_7 | April 22, 2008 4:23 PM
Clinton gets her double digit margin and claims big win. However, HRC does not make up significant ground in delegates and questions arise about whether she'll have the resources to compete. Gore endorses Obama.
Posted by: JT | April 22, 2008 3:39 PM
-------------------------------
I agree with your numbers but if she gets double digits she'll raise the funds, especially if the MSM makes Obama fading a story for the next two weeks. Add another mistep and it could do him in.
As for Gore, I doubt he or any large amount of the supers do anything until voting is over in June. If they didn't come forward after Dean and that mess Pelosi told them to I don't see it happening before then.
One who may come forward is Edwards before NC, especially if Hillary does bad. If she does not, anyone who wants to cash in on a Clinton White House will stay quiet.
Posted by: Patrick NYC | April 22, 2008 4:22 PM
Obama - 51
Clinton - 49
Headline Will be "Hillary Chokes on a Philly Cheesesteak"
Posted by: JJ from Malvern, PA | April 22, 2008 4:20 PM
Clinton -- 53
Obama -- 45
Headline WILL be: Hillary wins Pennsylvania, says she has the momentum. (substory: how much did Obama's bitter "gaffe" hurt him?)
[Followed in the next few days w/ more superdelegates announcing for Obama]
Headline SHOULD be: Clinton's presidential hopes continue to wane: Hillary wins PENN, but fails to significantly narrow delegate lead.
Posted by: No Cal | April 22, 2008 4:11 PM
Obama: 51%
Clinton: 47%
Others: 1%
Headline: "Pennsylvania Oblitares Clinton's Hopes for Nomination"
Report: "Last minute change of heart among white female babyboomers clinches the deal for Obama. According to one report, Pennsylvanians - whose state has given more of its fair share of sons and daughters to the Iraq invasion -were aghast at Senator's Clinton's belligerent rethoric about Iran. As one lady put it: "Obliterate is the language of deranged tinpot dictators, not of a potential US President".
Posted by: piul05 | April 22, 2008 4:09 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 43
Other 1
Clinton's line that Obama can't win large battleground states starts to gain some leverage with media and superdelegates.
Posted by: Sully | April 22, 2008 4:06 PM
Clinton - 56%
Obama - 41%
Storyline...."Not so fast, Sen. Obama!" PA as a state has a hard time voting for an African American (witness Lynn Swann last year). It is a taylor-made state for her--older, working class and not as many kids. Hillary is in it to the end and gathers momentum in final primary states. IS it enough? Probably not.
Posted by: Larz13 | April 22, 2008 4:03 PM
Clinton: 54
Obama: 45
Clinton parries a knockout once again; Obama insists that he will win on points.
Posted by: JakeMac | April 22, 2008 4:03 PM
Hillary's pick-up of 18 more delegates than Obama will be poo-pooed by his designated mouthpieces, and related media talking heads.
After all, can't she see that she's out of time? She barely beat him by double digits.
Hillary 55.7%
Obama 44.3%
Posted by: leecb1 | April 22, 2008 3:58 PM
Clinton - 54%
Obama - 45%
Pressures grow for Clinton to leave the race after major donors start to balk and Obama chalks up couple more high profile endorsements... but she won't.
Or ---
Clinton camp leaks false rumor that Obama campaign had hired "fat lady" to sing, then accuses Obama of being "fat-ist"
Posted by: msheik | April 22, 2008 3:55 PM
Clinton: --*%
Obama: --*%
* What's the point of the numbers? The story line is the same:
Clinton wins by the slimmest of margins, claims victory despite being broke (errr . . . "being outspent by a large margin")
Despite her increasing negatives - says that history will be the judge of her campaign.
The infamous "Nazi Teddy Bear" add will debut in Indiana. It's a split screen add with one side comparing Obama to Hitler, the other side Hillary hugging a fuzzy teddy bear.
Posted by: Steve | April 22, 2008 3:48 PM
Clinton 56%
Obama 44%
Posted by: Martin Tollén | April 22, 2008 3:48 PM
Clinton 56%
Obama 43%
Storyline: Clinton vows to fight all the way to the convention in Denver; Obama makes no headway among less-educated/lower-income Reagan Democrats; superdelegates wring their hands.
Posted by: harlemboy | April 22, 2008 3:48 PM
Obama 43%
Clinton 48%
Other 1%
PA is a tough state for Obama and journalists as well as those folks who live in PA know why but NO one wants to say it and Hillary wife of Billy keeps trying to push Obama to fess up, maybe people like Chris Matthews should be the one to fess up.
Posted by: Janie | April 22, 2008 3:47 PM
Obama: 50.87
Clinton: 48.63
other: 0.5
Posted by: Stuart | April 22, 2008 3:47 PM
I would like to see Barack Obama pull off the upset so I hope I'm wrong even though that will mean I won't get a Fix t-shirt.
I am calling it 51.3% for Billary Clinton & a respectable 48.7% for Barack Obama
Posted by: charles laffiteau | April 22, 2008 3:47 PM
Clinton: 53
Obama: 46
Narrative: Young voters don't turn out for Obama as much as expected. Clinton stays in the race claiming a blowout.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 3:47 PM
Clinton wins by 9 points.
Next day headlines:
1. Status quo - we know nothing more than we knew yesterday, and the race continues. Howard Dean is heard screaming, "Ahhhhhhhh....when will it end!"
2. "Cillizza Terrorizes North Carolina and Indiana." Much like in a Godzilla movie, the natives of North Carolina and Indiana run wild after seeing famed Fix reporter Chris Cillizza march through town and sample the best foods those states have to offer. Shouts of Cillizza (sounding like Godzilla) are heard. News at 11!
Posted by: IowaShouldBeFirst | April 22, 2008 3:44 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 47%
Clinton wins but its Obama rolling on to Indiana and North Carolina
Posted by: Paul UK | April 22, 2008 3:44 PM
Clinton 53.5
Obama 46.5
And this whole mess begins all over again with nothing really changed, much to the Republicans' delight. On to Indiana and North Carolina for Rocky XII.
Posted by: Andy | April 22, 2008 3:43 PM
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Posted by: The Quaker | April 22, 2008 3:41 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 43
Clinton gets her double digit margin and claims big win. However, HRC does not make up significant ground in delegates and questions arise about whether she'll have the resources to compete. Gore endorses Obama.
Posted by: JT | April 22, 2008 3:39 PM
I'm hoping for an Obama upset, but here's my real (still hopeful) prediction...
Clinton: 50%
Obama: 48%
Other: 2%
Clinton vows to fight on, despite narrow victory.
Posted by: Redline | April 22, 2008 3:32 PM
Clinton: 51
Obama: 49
Clinton wins the primary, but Obama walks away with more delegates.
Posted by: paul | April 22, 2008 3:21 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 45
Other 2
Posted by: ucla84 | April 22, 2008 3:20 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Clinton campaign vows to keep fighting; announces endorsements by superdelegates Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and HardcoreConservative ForMcCain
Posted by: iainspapa | April 22, 2008 3:11 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Media spin: A Google News search on Friday for "Democratic" and "stalemate" will turn up at least 1,000 hits.
Posted by: RossPhx | April 22, 2008 3:05 PM
Clinton: 54%
Obama: 45%
others: 1%
or
Clinton: 58%
Obama: 41%
Others: 1%
Posted by: Joe | April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 46
Other 1
Clinton Camp Claims a Win is a Win. Most media analysts desperate to keep their gig of covering this election going (despite significant fatigue among most voters in the country who just want to see this whole ordeal over already) accept this spin and report that Obama has failed to seal the deal with the Democratic party still and thus that the race will continue through June.
Ignored at least until about a week later will be the fact that the margin of victory is not nearly enough to make up Obama's lead in pledged delegates or popular vote and that few remaining states will favor her enough demographically to make up the leads anywhere else. Slowly, we'll start to see stories that point these facts again, usually appearing on Take-out-the-Trash Friday/Saturday editions of papers or on late night posts to political blogs when bloggers are running out of other frantic nonsense (like flag lapel pins and Hillary's bar escapades) to talk about.
Obama's campaign will lamely try too late to play the expectations game to paint a 7-point loss as a victory and thus will be left to roll out a handful of new superdelegate endorsements that do little to change the popular narrative or conception of the race. Both candidates will target Indiana, as NC still skews too far in Obama's direction.
Hillary and Ed Rendell will be cocky at the victory speech. Wolfson and others will start hammering Obama on conference calls for reporters on Wednesday for not agreeing to a debate in NC.
Posted by: pgboger | April 22, 2008 2:59 PM
Obama 52%
Clinton 48%
Headline - "PA is Temple of Doom for HRC; leaves her Jonesing for an Indiana win."
Posted by: bondjedi | April 22, 2008 2:58 PM
also, Obama camp and pundits begin to question claims of Hillary's wins in states where Limbaugh Democ-rats crossed over or registered as Dems to vote in Operation Chaos
Posted by: newddle | April 22, 2008 2:57 PM
I forgot the post-election media narrative:
Obama fails to close the deal;
Hillary stays in the race;
media people begin to report that some Democrats avoid "encouraging" Hillary to withdraw because that only eggs her on;
stories begin to emerge that Hillary's toughness and perseverance are not only assets but also millstones around her neck;
Obama takes a vacation befor Indiana and North Carolina;
Obama pivots more to McCain, which prompts Hillary to attack Obama more; Hillary cries in disappointment and disbelief
Posted by: newddle | April 22, 2008 2:53 PM
Clinton 52%
Obama 47%
Media headline: "Clinton working class hero claws to victory in the Keystone state primary."
Despite record turn-out and vote totals in southeastern PA by Sen. Obama, the white working class woters in the, where else, rural and small town PA hand Sen. Clinton a victory, her cash strapped campaign badly needed to fight another day.
I predict that the May 6 primaries, in Indiana(leaning Obama) and North Carolina(strongly Obama) will be the final curtain on the "dead-enders," both inside the Clinton camp and in the media, who think Sen. Clinton can still, pull out a victory in either pledged delegates or popular vote.
Posted by: remjones | April 22, 2008 2:53 PM
Obama: 58%
Clinton: 42%
Hillary Clinton enters deep depression. Bill holidays in Caribbean.
Posted by: Jack | April 22, 2008 2:50 PM
Clinton 55, Obama 45
Posted by: newddle | April 22, 2008 2:45 PM
Clinton 53.5 Obama 46.5
Narrative: All that money, all that time, and we're no closer to closure. Hillary can't win the nomination, but it will take a loss in a state she's expected to win for her to drop out. Next possibility: Indiana
Posted by: rich^kolker | April 22, 2008 2:39 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Clinton slogs on
Posted by: jmh | April 22, 2008 2:39 PM
results:
Clinton 55.9
Obama 43.3
Headlines:
Clinton trumpets win while highlighting her strengths and doubts about Obama. Obama highlights a lead that's still nearly out of reach and the contests that lie ahead. Pundints find late push to Clinton still a major problem for Obama.
Posted by: tidoublegerpb4 | April 22, 2008 2:35 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 46%
Although Clinton wins the PA primary by a comfortable margin delegates split almost evenly
Posted by: nic.roxylife | April 22, 2008 2:34 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 46%
Although Clinton wins the PA primary by a comfortable margin delegates split almost evenly
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 2:33 PM
Clinton: 51%
Obama: 47%
Headline: Clinton Wins Pyrrhic Battle, Obama Nomination Inevitable
Posted by: bb | April 22, 2008 2:28 PM
Obama 51
Clinton 49
Hillary drops out and the first sign of true positive change occurs!! Bill and Hillary vacation to the Cayman Islands to check on their bank account balances and pay see if they have enough to cover the campaign debt. They write the trip off on their taxes as a business expense.
Obama all the way!! =-)
Posted by: Lynne in Indiana | April 22, 2008 2:28 PM
Obama 634%
Clinton 159%
Obama declared winner, but mathematicians called in from MIT to figure out what went wrong with Diebold calculations.
Posted by: Einstein | April 22, 2008 2:24 PM
Clinton 52%
Obama 48%
Exit polls show that Obama makes better-than-expected gains with white male voters (especially the bitter ones).
Posted by: Brian H | April 22, 2008 2:24 PM
Obama: 50
Clinton: 49
Clinton concedes Wednesday morning.
Posted by: Harrison Case | April 22, 2008 2:21 PM
And the winner of the PA 2008 Democratic Primary is ... John McCain.
Hot job growth area for a McCain candidacy - manufacturing gas station signs that accomodate prices from 10.00 a gallon on up.
Posted by: bondjedi | April 22, 2008 2:19 PM
I think Clinton wins by 5.5% (52.75% to 47.25% if no other Democrats are officially still on the PA ballot, i.e. Edwards or Kucinich). The margin won't be large enough to justify her staying in the race so most media organizations will be delivering her campaign's obitiuary on her behalf. FOX News won't join in as loudly because they want the race to continue.
Posted by: Jesse Curry | April 22, 2008 2:18 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 46%
Clinton wins poplar vote, but huge turnout in Philly allows Obama to nearly break even in delegates
Posted by: Ryan | April 22, 2008 2:17 PM
Obama 50%
Bill Clinton's Wife 48%
Write-in 1%
Woody Woodpecker, Jack Daniels, and Heywood Jablowme write-in efforts doom Hillary's PA effort.
Hillary, unable to move goalposts any further, invents the Fifth Quarter.
Posted by: TheTruth | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM
svreader, you are a sick dude.
Obama: 45%
Clinton: 44%
Lancelot Link: 11%
Posted by: goodie two shoes | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 46%
Clinton 'victory' clouds picture.
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008 2:14 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 47%
Clinton Win Steels Supporters for Battle Ahead
Rendell Scores Point in VP Stakes
Posted by: Michael Shapiro | April 22, 2008 2:14 PM
53-47, please make her go away
Posted by: Nclwtk | April 22, 2008 2:13 PM
Who cares. Neither Obama nor Hillary can win in the general election. McCain will be sworn in in '09.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 2:12 PM
HRC: 51
BHO: 49
Philly landslide for Obama. Little shift in pop vote; Clinton nets 3 delegates.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 2:12 PM
Obama 83%
Clinton: 17%
Obama reels in young hotties' votes
Posted by: Gobama! | April 22, 2008 2:12 PM
Clinton 53.4%
Obama 46.7%
Storyline:
Clinton wins, but not big enough to make a real dent in delegates or popular vote. On to the Tarheels vs Hoosiers.
Substory line: massive turnout of new voters, mostly for Obama, is what kept it as close as it was. Lookout GOP in the general!
Posted by: Erik | April 22, 2008 2:10 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 47%
Hillary claims victory, Obama touts the fact he reduced a 20 point lead to 6. Attention immediately turns to Indiana and NC.
Posted by: sth85 | April 22, 2008 2:10 PM
Clinton 58 Obama 42
Obama Reeling after Pa. Blowout
Posted by: Niall | April 22, 2008 2:09 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 45%
Both sides spin a victory to the tune of the Pennsylvania Polka.
Posted by: Curt Lader | April 22, 2008 2:08 PM
Clinton 51
Obama 49
Clinton wins but not convincingly; stays in race despite widespread calls to drop out
Posted by: sprout | April 22, 2008 2:08 PM
Obama 49.99%
Clinton 48.98%
Albert Jezerra: 1.03%
People of PA tire of being cast as stoopid rednecks and cast votes for elite!
Posted by: Snaggletooth Seahag | April 22, 2008 2:06 PM
Apparently I can't count Obama should have 45%.
Posted by: JNoel002 | April 22, 2008 2:06 PM
Clinton: 50
Obama: 47.5
Other: 2.5
Race much closer than everyone thinks, Edwards endorses Obama, Clinton drops out by the end of the week.
Posted by: Kurt | April 22, 2008 2:05 PM
Obama 42.3%
Clinton 57.7%
20 uncommited superdelegates including John Edwards endorse H.C. and H.C. raises $5 million over next 48 hours.
Posted by: Leichtman | April 22, 2008 2:04 PM
1) Clinton = 55.4%
2) Obama = 44.6%
Dominant Storyline: " 'Clinton' as Rocky: Lives to Fight Another Day"
Posted by: scout4blue | April 22, 2008 2:04 PM
Clinton 55%
Obama 49%
Storyline:
Clinton wins "big"...states. Makes her plea to supers that only she can deliver "big" victory in November.
Posted by: JNoel002 | April 22, 2008 2:03 PM
Clinton 50.5
Obama 49.5
Statistical tie in the Keystone State proves to be the end of the Clinton campaign.
Posted by: Matt Fairley | April 22, 2008 1:59 PM
someone purporting to be JD writes
"Is it just me, or is Chelsea starting to look HOT with that long blond hair?"
That has got to be a spoofed post...
Posted by: bsimon | April 22, 2008 10:47 AM
You got it, completely spoofed. Unfortunately, I don't see any defense against it.
Posted by: JD | April 22, 2008 1:58 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 46%
You ask for "order of finish and percentage." This would be Clinton in first place, Obama in second.... (Do I win because no one else noted this?)
Story line:
"Clinton wins, but stalemate continues"
fading into...
"Obama projected to win more delegates in North Carolina tham he lost in PA" and "Delegate Math insurmountable" (Clinton needs to win remining contests by more than 40% to catch Obama in pledged delegates.)
Posted by: MrMatttt | April 22, 2008 1:56 PM
Clinton 53
Obamba 46
Clinton barely stays alive. But the question remains whats wrong with Barrack Obamba can't he win a primary in a large state even being the presumptive nominee and out spending his opponent.
Posted by: Robinhood | April 22, 2008 1:55 PM
clinton 53.3
obama 46.7
story line: dems tearing themselves apart; clinton can't win but won't quit; obama can't close the deal.
Posted by: Charles | April 22, 2008 1:54 PM
Clinton 52
Obama 48
Clinton becomes first candidate to drop out of race after winning a primary
Posted by: EMHMD | April 22, 2008 1:52 PM
Hillary 56/Obama 43.5
Posted by: douglasmintz | April 22, 2008 1:49 PM
People are focusing far too much on the demographics of Pennsylvania and completely ignoring national issues. Here's a link, I feel, that sums it up the problem in a very humorous way:
http://www.236.com/blog/w/jake_goldman/obama_and_hillarys_primaryeve_6013.php
Posted by: LordFlashheart | April 22, 2008 1:45 PM
I predict 54.8% for HRC and 45.2% for BO.
Posted by: Russell in NY | April 22, 2008 1:38 PM
Obama 51
Clinton 49
Record turnout spurs narrow Obama victory. Team Clinton huddles the night of and vows to remain in race. However, limited cash flow and increased pressure forces her to drop out a few days later
Posted by: zbaron | April 22, 2008 1:34 PM
1000 suicide attempts a month by Iraq war vets -- and the VA tries to cover it up. And John McCain refuses to support a bill to fund mental health care for out troops. Remember that come November:
"Yesterday marked the opening day of a class action lawsuit brought by Iraq and Afghanistan veterans against the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), arguing "that failure to provide care is manifesting itself in an epidemic of suicides" among veterans. The VA denies the charges, pointing to increased resources devoted to mental health.
Today, CBS News reports that the VA apparently concealed veteran suicide statistics, and fed the news organization faulty data for a story on the issue. The VA told CBS that there were 790 attempted suicides in all of 2007. Yet shortly after, the VA's head of Mental Health, Dr. Ira Katz, wrote in an e-mail to the VA's top media adviser that there were "about 1,000 suicide attempts per month among veterans we see in our medical facilities."
'Katz had attacked CBS last November, after a report exposed 6,200 veteran suicides in 2005'
More than 6000 bet suicides in one year, and McCain wants to continue the madness, occupy Iraq forever, and to hell with our troops.
Posted by: Cal | April 22, 2008 1:33 PM
Obama 51
Clinton 49
Hillary accuses Bill of sabotaging her campaign and files for separation. Rumors swirl of a secret affair between Hillary and Ellen. Hillary drops out and Obama announces selection of Senator Byrd as his running mate to woo the over 80 crowd.
Posted by: Joe M | April 22, 2008 1:32 PM
OBAMA 52%
CLINTON 48%
Storyline: Clinton drops out on thursday. She sheds some tears in the process.
Posted by: Lumi | April 22, 2008 1:31 PM
DEMOCRACY??? Democratic Party???? Election decided by the SUPREME COURT (9 judges) Not by the peoples VOTE,. Now!! it will be a primary decided by SUPER(MAN) DELEGATES, That its to contra de votes on the people!!NOT COUNTING THE REAL PEOPLES VOTES< LIKE IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!! It's also a contrary to democracy should be!! (DEMOCRACY) Isn't it?????
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 1:26 PM
Clinton: 49%
Obama: 46%
Headlines:
Clinton's attempt to recreate "3AM" surge in PA comes up short
Clinton camp claims win, vows to battle on, looks for bump in IN; Obama mum on Clinton quitting
Dean continues to press superdelegates
Edwards rumored to endorse soon
Posted by: Wild Pikachu | April 22, 2008 1:26 PM
Predictions? That is as trivial at this point as tea leaves at a county fair. Here is the real practical question.....
I would like to inject a sense of realism into a passionate and often ugly debate that rages here on Wapo blog boards on a daily basis. Truth is truth, and math does not lie. In order for Hillary to win the nomination she MUST win ALL the remaining 10 states by a margin of at least 12-14 percentage points (62-64%) and then she must win 64% of the superdelegates. All this talk back and forth cannot change the math. Hillary's efforts to get the nomination will be an exhaustive uphill battle. Before all you Hillary folks start to jump down my throat you should know I LOVE Hillary. I am constantly pleading for unity within the Dem party. I do not have a bias. What I have is a calculator, and a willingness to add things up the way they are, not the way I want them to be. Use this delegate calculator below and do the math yourself. Adjust the slider to 62-64% wins from here on out and see what you get. The delegate count used is the same as MSNBC and CNN
http://www.slate.com//id/2185278/
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 1:25 PM
Obama 49
Clinton 46
Media Narrative: Youth vote in record turnout grossly undercounted in polling due to cell phone/landline issue; Clinton vows to fight on, says real test is Indiana.
Posted by: chouteau | April 22, 2008 1:23 PM
Clinton 54.7%
Obama 45.3%
Clinton claims mandate to continue campaigning through North Carolina and Indiana while chorus of calls for her to drop out mount.
Posted by: brentb52 | April 22, 2008 1:21 PM
DEMOCRACY??? Democratic Party???? Election decided by the SUPREME COURT (9 judges) Not by the peoples VOTE,. Now!! it will be a primary decided by SUPER(MAN) DELEGATES, That its to contra de votes on the people!! If Super MAN is goin to decide!! then, what kind of democracy is this?
Posted by: rleb blco | April 22, 2008 1:21 PM
Clinton: 56%
Obama: 43%
Obama still unable to close the deal with white,working class voters. Democratic race remains mired.
Posted by: markw | April 22, 2008 1:20 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 44
"big Clinton win still might be too little too late. Both camps start hunting for Hoosiers"
Posted by: JMOToole | April 22, 2008 1:19 PM
Clinton 55.6%
Obama 44.4%
Clinton Wins Decisive Victory in Pennsylvania, Vows to "This Race is Just Beginning!"
Posted by: ClintonFan40 | April 22, 2008 1:16 PM
Clinton 56
Obama 44
Whoever thought a boxing match had 16 rounds?
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 1:16 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 46%
Clinton vows to fight on, becomes apoplectic arguing that MI and FL delegates should be seated.
Posted by: PhilD | April 22, 2008 1:15 PM
Clinton 54%
Obama 45%
1. "Clinton Hangs on to Continue Fight"
2. Bradley Effect
Posted by: TomSeattle | April 22, 2008 1:11 PM
Clinton - 52
Obama - 47
Others - 1
Like Rocky, Obama wins by losing. Clinton makes aggressive victory speech but superdelegates are not convinced.
Posted by: Chris Ferry | April 22, 2008 1:11 PM
Clinton - 53
Obama - 47
Democratic Nomination Remains Muddled After Modest Clinton Victory In PA, Campaigns Prepare For Final Showdown In Indiana
Posted by: Alexander J. Cronon | April 22, 2008 1:10 PM
Third try to make it complete!
Clinton: 59
Obama: 39
Other:2
Headline: Clinton claims Obama can't win general election if he can't win in large states.
Posted by: DutchStudent23 | April 22, 2008 1:09 PM
Clinton 52.7%
Obama 46.1%
Clinton wins narrow victory, vows to fight on
Posted by: JKC1967 | April 22, 2008 1:07 PM
Clinton: 57%
Obama: 42%
Other: 1%
Clinto scores a huge victory and Governor Rendell once again shows his value in democratic Politics. Rumors of a Clinton/Rendell ticket quickly spread.
Posted by: BattleGroundiowa.squarespace.com | April 22, 2008 1:07 PM
Hillary 54%
Barack 46%
Hillary takes Pennsylvania on her strength with blue collar white males.
Posted by: gerard karcher | April 22, 2008 1:05 PM
Whoops--math typo on my original submission. The correct one is:
Clinton--52%
Obama--45%
Other/Don't Know--3%
Clinton Vows To Continue Fighting Until the Convention
Posted by: JH_Law | April 22, 2008 1:05 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 45
Clinton declares major vicory, claims supers must fall in line behind the big state champion. Obama camp says nothing has changed and supers must support popular and elected delegate victor which will be him.
Posted by: Photoman | April 22, 2008 1:02 PM
Clinton--48%
Obama--41%
Other/Don't Know--3%
Clinton Vows To Continue Fighting Until the Convention
Posted by: JH_Law | April 22, 2008 1:01 PM
Clinton: 52
Obama: 48
Young "cell phone" voters not reached by polls; close the gap for Obama.
Posted by: I'm here because of Ashley | April 22, 2008 1:00 PM
HRC 60%
BHO 39%
Super delegates alarmed by Obama's inability to attract "RWR Democrats."
Posted by: Varnerism | April 22, 2008 12:56 PM
Clinton - 53%
Obama - 47%
Obama spin - "time for her to drop out"
Clinton spin - " In it til the end" followed by an insensitive (possibly racial) comment by one of her spinmeisters on CNN/MSNBC. Comment gets 24 hr coverage for the next week
Press spin - "Hillary wallows in hate", "Obama can't close the deal" "McCain the only patriotic choice" "ABC debate was a 'turning point' Press is vindicated".
(aka - nothing changes)
End result - HRC drops out by Friday (4/28 - after 6 P.M.) blaming BHO and MoveOn for intimidating "real Americans" and sopping up all the money.
Posted by: jjemcm | April 22, 2008 12:55 PM
O: 47%, 75 delegates
C: 52%, 83 delegates
Despite modest win and dwindling warchest,
Clinton vows to "fight on to Denver"
Posted by: converse | April 22, 2008 12:53 PM
Obama: 110%
Clinton: -10%
Hillary Clinton climbs into bunker with inner circle of supporters. Considers calling the Clinton Youth into service. James Carvelle seen naked performing self-flagellation on National Mall. Oh the humanity!
Posted by: The end of the world as we know it | April 22, 2008 12:53 PM
Clinton 48
Obama 46
Story line: Pressure on Hillary to withdraw.
Posted by: The Professor | April 22, 2008 12:50 PM
Obama wins by 1 point.
Contest over. Hillary out.
Posted by: Anis Shivani | April 22, 2008 12:50 PM
Pennsylvania Results:
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Headline: "Is It Enough? Can the Clinton Campaign Spin a 6-point Victory into Enough Cash and Superdelegates to Fight On?"
Headline of the Week: "Gore Endorses Obama!"
Posted by: murawski27 | April 22, 2008 12:48 PM
Obama 50, Clinton 49
massive number of people voting
Posted by: abseconfamilylawyer | April 22, 2008 12:48 PM
I JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS THAT THE VOTING MACHINES ARE BREAKING DOWN PHILADELPHIA AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING IN THE BLACK AREAS OF PHILADELPHIA IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING IS GOING ON LIKE IT DID IN NEW YORK AND NEW MEXICO AND NEW HAMPSHIRE THE FIX IS ON FOR HILLARY IN PENNSLYVANIA
(Earlier post from Ken, which prompted Scrivener's post, above...)
Posted by: scrivener | April 22, 2008 12:48 PM
Dear America,
What has become of democracy?
Results in 2 states going down the tubes, because of organisational faults.
And now the voting machines collapse in another state.
Are you using the same "dedicated" team to organise these democrat elections ?
And you call Zimbabwe a banana republic democracy!
All a joy to hear.
Good to find that the blank voting paper trick works. Please send the team here for my election rerun.
R.M....... President Elect[ed]
Posted by: presidentelect almost | April 22, 2008 12:48 PM
Clinton 51
Obama 46
Posted by: anticlimacus | April 22, 2008 12:47 PM
prediction:
W speaks about trade and economy today.
Dow drops 200 points.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:47 PM
Clinton 52, Obama 48
A narrow victory for Clinton keeps her shot at the presidency alive (for now), and both campaigns spin this as a victory for their candidate. Obama heads to Indiana to try yet again to knock Clinton out in two weeks.
Posted by: TMBJon | April 22, 2008 12:47 PM
Clinton 56%
Obama 43%
Clinton's win gives superdelegates second thoughts over electability, especially in swing states.
Calls for Gore to be the compromise candidate start to become a bit louder.
Posted by: jimoneill50 | April 22, 2008 12:46 PM
>
(earlier post by KEN)
Here's my today story from the Northern suburbs of Philly: A guy in an Obama tee-shirt raps on the door, asks by name for my two grown kids who haven't lived in PA for years, says he has them down as Obama supporters when in fact at least one of them is avidly for Hillary.
Suspecting that this guy is not who he says he is, I say I'm not interested. He's overly solicitious: "Oh, I'm so sorry to bother you, sir..." and all that okie-doke.
He leaves a piece of campaign literature which is blurry, looks like it came off a color Xerox and not typical offset printing.
I go back outside to ask him how he can have my kids listed as Obama supporters. He smiles and says, "Oh sometimes the information we're given is wrong." Then I look down at his clipboard, where he had written, "Father was very hostile."
I ask him why he's remarking on his perceptions of my demeanor. What kind of campaign volunteer does that? Again he's soliticious and says, "Oh, I'm so sorry, I'll just scratch that out."
As the song goes: "Somethin's happenin' here, what it is ain't exactly clear."
Operation Chaos may extend much deeper than Election Day. Perhaps this is a 21st century version of Donald Segretti-Plumbers dirty tricks? Kind of like the jugheads in camo jackets and bright white sneakers who show up to "cheer" Obama while taking digital photos of faces in the crowd...
Are politically aware Americans being targeted by a domestic Blackwater? Anyone else experience any such Election Day strangeness?
Posted by: scrivener | April 22, 2008 12:46 PM
Obama 51
Clinton 49
Clinton continues until she loses Indiana.
Posted by: NoBillary1 | April 22, 2008 12:42 PM
SEN. OBAMA's prediction: "Well, you know, I wouldn't be campaigning here if I didn't think that we could win"
My prediction is that his prediction will be shot down in flames as PA voters reject him and his gun-clinging, religious-nut, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-trade comments about small town Americans.
Obama did and NPR interview yesterday, in which he once again espoused support for a ban on handguns. I guess the junior Senator doesn't think the rubes in flyover country are listeneing to NPR, so he's safe to prattle on about his elitist liberal views; sort of like that fundraiser in San Francisco at the billionaire's house where he didn't think the average voter would find out what he really thinks.
"MS. BLOCK: Do you have a position on the D.C. hand-gun ban, the case that has gone before the Supreme Court?
SEN. OBAMA: You know, my general view - and this is colored by having taught constitutional law for 10 years - is that as a constitutional matter, the second amendment probably should recognize an individual's right to own firearms. But just because you have an individual right doesn't mean that the public at large doesn't also have a countervailing right to protect the public safety.
I mean, we all have rights to own private property, but that doesn't mean that zoning laws are unconstitutional. And, you know, I don't know all of the details and specifics of the D.C. gun law, but I do know that local communities as well as states and the federal government can institute some common-sense gun laws that will survive constitutional scrutiny."
His position is to say whatever is politically expedient at the time and to avoid direct answers to tough questions at all costs. The bottom line is that Barack Obama supports a handgun ban, but he'd rather vote 'present' when the decisions are hard and have consequences.
He'd rather the average American doesn't find out what he really thinks - that he knows better than all of you typical white xenophobic gun-toting religious nuts out there. Just vote for him anyway.
Posted by: proudtobeGOP | April 22, 2008 12:42 PM
Obama 49.5
Clinton 49.3
Other .2
Storyline - Cue the music, turn out the lights, the party is over .... but she does not drop out till the weekend.
Posted by: Gatorboy50613 | April 22, 2008 12:40 PM
Clinton 52.5%
Obama 47.5%
Storyline: Obama makes up ground with voters from the middle and West End of the State. Hillary fails to gain any significant margin in the popular vote.
Posted by: Randy S - Minneapolis | April 22, 2008 12:38 PM
McCain wins the Pennsylvania primary by a thumping majority.
Posted by: Jim DiPeso | April 22, 2008 12:36 PM
Sen. Clinton 53.5%
Sen. Obama 46.5%
No he can't (seal the deal). UpHill battle continues.
Posted by: ANS | April 22, 2008 12:36 PM
Obama 50.8%
Clinton 49.2
Game Over
Posted by: ORJay | April 22, 2008 12:34 PM
Clinton 55.5
Obama 44.5
They're starting to hum "Hail to the Chief" in Ballston.
Posted by: Fleur du Mal | April 22, 2008 12:32 PM
55-45 Clinton.
PA Voters Bitter about Barack.
(suburban/exurban women -- watch the sep pa counties)
Posted by: David | April 22, 2008 12:31 PM
Obama 50%
Clinton 49%
Other 1%
Regardless of the outcome, Hillary won't go away.... she's the "Freddy" factor!
Posted by: Truth Hunter | April 22, 2008 12:28 PM
can dejtio get a t shirt?
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:28 PM
Clinton 52, Obama 48
Clinton vows to take it to the Supers. Next stop, Denver.
Posted by: wmi02000 | April 22, 2008 12:27 PM
PS
Posted by: KEN | April 22, 2008 12:15 PM
Ken, we can't hear you, could you speak up?
Posted by: jd | April 22, 2008 12:25 PM
Clinton 54, Obama 45.
Media narrative: This is a much-needed win for Hillary Clinton. It raises doubts about whether Obama can connect with working-class voters. Some sad little pundit will suggest that Obama closed the gap by over 10 points, but that will be ignored as Wolf Blitzer shouts about Clinton's resurgence and the Democratic Party's disunity. "Elitist" will be thrown about repeatedly. Clinton will make a hoarse, smug victory speech in which she declares that the people of Pennsylvania know the value of her experience and her tough life. Obama's speech will include an inspiring line that will cause Chris Matthews to reach a state of ecstasy rarely seen without the use of illegal drugs. McCain will continue to be irrelevant.
Posted by: ABP | April 22, 2008 12:25 PM
I predict the Caps will beat the Philadelphia Flyers 3-1, to complete their incredible comeback and advance to the next round.
(Hey, you said Pennsylvania prediction...)
Posted by: JD | April 22, 2008 12:24 PM
Clinton 55.3
Obama 44.7
I think it will be a surprise that the spread will be as large with all the money Obama spent. Big returns with women and white men will send her just barely into double digits.
Posted by: KK | April 22, 2008 12:23 PM
I am working as a volunteer for Senator Hillary Clinton. She will win Pennsylvania in a big way. Senator Clinton keep moving forward.
Posted by: Maria | April 22, 2008 12:23 PM
Clinton 55.4
Obama 44.3
... Stayin' alive, stayin' alive...
Posted by: AnthonyJBrady | April 22, 2008 12:22 PM
Night and day service
TV screens
Ballot machines
Ballot papers.
No job too big or too small
We fix everything !
Posted by: acmetvrepair | April 22, 2008 12:21 PM
The Latest Proof that the Karl Rove Playbook Has Become the MSM's Bible
The mainstream media seems intent on confirming that it has so internalized the Right's framing and messages they have now become part of its DNA. The first of the latest round of exhibits proving this was offered into evidence during last week's ABC debate. This was followed by the New York Times' epic revelation of the unseemly complicity between the Pentagon and the media in delivering the Bush administration's talking points on Iraq via "a kind of Trojan media horse" -- Pentagon-approved, prepped, and financially-enriched "military analysts" dutifully parroting the Bush party line, with nary a raised eyebrow from the TV stations and newspapers offering these highly-decorated sock puppets their prestigious platforms. And it's not just the media. Witness Hillary Clinton repeating the Rove-promoted lie that MoveOn was against intervention in Afghanistan after 9/11.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:20 PM
Clinton 0%
Obama 0%
Alvin " Muskrat" Bodine 100%
Intense media pressure depresses the PA vote to a trickle, Diebold does the rest as Republicans use the PA primary as a dry run for the presidential election.
In the end, the state is won by a homeless tin can collector from Germantown on the strength of a single write in ballot completed with an aqua-marine Crayola crayon. Muskrat immediately signs on as Baraks Vice Presidential candidate but alas, it's not to be.
On the eve of the general election with rioting in the streets and class warfare raging in the heartland, Canada invades the US using a vast 5th column they have been building here for years.
Hockey becomes the national past-time, we all get health insurance and a government issued snow mobile. Needless to say, with the end of the US as a sovereign nation, our commitment to Iraq becomes moot, the troops come home, their is a celebration to rival VE day until the domestic supply of Molsen is exhausted, we all sing " Oh Canada" and then go home to bed, tomorrow is another working day after all.
Ten years from now, the Canadian eject us from their federation telling us "If we'd known what monumental idiots you people were we'd never have invaded you" and Jeb Bush is elected the first president of the new republic. Oddly, he too fails to ever take office as he is shot by his brothers ex-vice president at the inauguration when the doves are launched at the end of the new Presidents speech.
In the end, we decide we really don't need a president and make Nancy Pelosi our collective biatch, putting her in charge of domestic policy and governance. As for foreign policy, we just leave that up to the americans traveling oversees, which works quite well until a family from Abilene Kansas embroils us in the Pan-Lutheran attack on Monaco, but that's a prophesy for another blog.
Posted by: Dijetlo | April 22, 2008 12:18 PM
Clinton 53%
Obama 46%
"Clinton Wins PA, But Is It Enough??"
"Obama Closes Gap; Continues to Have Trouble with Blue-Collar Dems"
Posted by: JohnnyMcNugget | April 22, 2008 12:16 PM
50.5 Obama
49.5 Clinton
Rust Belt the difference, Better not Bitter, it's over!!
Posted by: Roger | April 22, 2008 12:15 PM
I JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS THAT THE VOTING MACHINES ARE BREAKING DOWN PHILADELPHIA AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING IN THE BLACK AREAS OF PHILADELPHIA IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING IS GOING ON LIKE IT DID IN NEW YORK AND NEW MEXICO AND NEW HAMPSHIRE THE FIX IS ON FOR HILLARY IN PENNSLYVANIA
Posted by: KEN | April 22, 2008 12:15 PM
Clinton 55
Obama 43
Clinton by 12
Obama can't close the deal. Doubts among superdelegates grow as to whether Obama can carry enough of rural, small town, and middle America to win in general election.
Posted by: Paul Denbaum | April 22, 2008 12:15 PM
Clinton 54.3 (including the maggot vote fro Scaife)
Obama 45.6
Too Stupid to Know How to Vote: .1
(that is, besides the Billary voters)
What the Story Line Should Be:
1/3 of white Dem voters in Pennsylvania Vote Racist & Support Clinton (another 1/3 Clinton white voters pretend they're not being racist)
I'll take a double XX, I'm a fat ass as well as a fat head
But I don't really expect any of the white talking heads to acknowledge this elephant in the room, what they'll do is
"Our Drab Lives Mean Nothing, We'll Keep Pretending Billary Has a Chance to Win the Nomination"
Posted by: livin_n_the_city | April 22, 2008 12:14 PM
Dear Robert
Thank you for the support.
Will let you know if I need help with the supers.
Regards H.
Posted by: acrossthepond | April 22, 2008 12:11 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Headline: Hillary wins moral victory, but can't win nomination.
Posted by: John Schroeder | April 22, 2008 12:11 PM
Obama 51
Clinton 49
Headline: "Obama Scores Upset, Likely Headed Towards Nomination"
The narrative in the MSM involves how you guys messed up so bad ala New Hampshire. You're not too hard on yourselves, declaring that the entire race has been unpredictable and your expectations of a Clinton 6 (or so) win were reasonable.
Meanwhile, you try your hardest to figure out how Obama did it. You figure out that 1) all that money he raised didn't just go to ads, it helped with organization and he had a superior GOTV operation; 2) the polls weren't completely accurate because those who don't have landlines tend towards Obama; 3) MOST IMPORTANTLY, you finally reject the "Obama blew it" narrative of last week's debate, you watch it again through the eyes of a normal (non-Beltway) person and realize that, objectively speaking, Obama got piled on in a way that Clinton never had, and that Clinton fed into it. You'll realize how sickening the debate was, how representative it was of a crappy old politics, and how people just want that stuff to be over with because they have real problems and want those discussed.
Meanwhile, the pressure on Clinton to drop out will reach a deafening volume. Scores of superdelegates will come out for Obama. Perhaps party elders will as well. She'll either drop out, or Obama will completely ignore her and begin general election mode. If it's the latter, Clinton will turn into a selfish joke.
Posted by: Nathaniel Holton | April 22, 2008 12:10 PM
Obama: 49%
Clinton: 49%
Story: Recount goes on for days, calls for Clinton to drop out grow louder and louder; she drops out on Friday and Obama begins courting her as VP.
Posted by: Sally | April 22, 2008 12:09 PM
Hillary Clinton is a great politician. I wish I was as good at getting votes as she is.
Posted by: Robert Mugabe | April 22, 2008 12:07 PM
Clinton 52
Obama 48
Clinton narrowly wins the Keystone State, pressure mounts for her to pull out, but campaign continues to look towards the convention.
Posted by: ObamaFan | April 22, 2008 12:06 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Clinton delegate gain immediately wiped out by Obama superdelegate wave
Posted by: Josh K. | April 22, 2008 12:06 PM
Clinton 53
Obama 46
Its on to the Tar Heel and Hoosier states- Clinton faces money and delegate crunch. Can she get enough of both to win?
XL please!
Posted by: P Mac | April 22, 2008 12:03 PM
Changing my estimate because of the broken machines and the ballot papers without candidates names
Obama 48.0
Hillary Clinton 45.0
Bill Clinton 1.0
Chelsea Clinton 2.0
The Lone Ranger 1.5
pi$$ed off/ Mugabe/ Monica/ other 2.5
Posted by: overthe pond | April 22, 2008 12:01 PM
Politisite Political Projections
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Polls track Senator Clinton Lower than she produces in final results. Senator Obama tracks higher than he produces in final results. Real Clear Politics has Hillary Clinton winning by 5.7% . Obama has produced some real negitives during this campaign cycle. Politisite projects Senator Clinton to win by 8-12 percentage points. Hilliary Clinton wins by 54-56% to Obama's 42-44%
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Posted by: Albert N. Milliron | April 22, 2008 12:01 PM
PA:
Clintn 49.7%
Obama 49.2%
Clinton edges out Obama, but the race is written up as an essential draw. Pundits argue that Clinton's window of opportunity is closed, and the calls for her to drop out begin.
Posted by: faberman.jason | April 22, 2008 11:59 AM
Clinton - 55
Obama - 44
Storyline: Big Victory for Clinton, but it probably won't be enough. Campaign moves onto last stand in Indiana.
Posted by: Kristin | April 22, 2008 11:55 AM
yes steve..Let us pray...god certainly is on Obama's side..
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 11:53 AM
I thought this was a joke. I guess it is, only the joke is on us:
"Somewhere in between the parade of busty women in low-cut gold lamé minidresses and contestants spinning the wheel, George Bush made a star turn.
"I'm thrilled to be on 'Deal or No Deal' with you tonight," Mr. Bush said from a giant screen in a cameo taped for the Monday episode of one of NBC's most popular prime-time shows. The president paused a beat. "Come to think of it, I'm thrilled to be anywhere with high ratings these days."
Elitism is to the 2008 campaign as communism was to 1950s politics: a career breaker."
Posted by: omigod--life has turned into The Onion | April 22, 2008 11:53 AM
It doesn't matter who wins Pennsylvania. The media has already decided it for us. They will destroy whoever the Dem nominee is -- as they always do. All that's left is the coronation of McCain, who will once and for all, destroy this country--what 'conservatives' desire most, for far from being patriots, they HATE government, which is, after all, what makes America America... soon we'll be just another banana republic.
'In a blunt piece inside, the WSJ says that the tax cuts Sen. John McCain is vowing to push through as president "would either cause the federal deficit to explode or would require unprecedented spending cuts."
He has proposed a total of more than $650 billion in tax cuts a year that would mostly benefit "corporations and upper-income families."
Details are scarce, but he has promised deep cuts which would equal $160 billion a year, which was "the total budget in 2007 for the departments of Education, Energy, Homeland Security, Justice and State."
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 11:51 AM
Obama - 51%
HRC - 49%
Pressure For HRC to End Run.
Obama Over The Top w/ Superdelegates!
Let us pray...
Posted by: steve nc | April 22, 2008 11:50 AM
Clinton 58
Obama 42
Clinton blows out Obama, but still quite far behind in the delegate count.
Posted by: Brian Adams | April 22, 2008 11:50 AM
Obama - 45%
Clinton - 54%
Other - 1%
"Senator Clinton Wins, Feels Need to Torture Us Further"
Posted by: Kev | April 22, 2008 11:49 AM
59.5% Clinton
48.6% Obama
Obama can't seal the deal, Clinton can't make up the delegate deficit. Where do we go from here?
I covet a Fix shirt, as long as Chris didn't make the age-old campaign mistake of only ordering larges and XL's.. skinny guys like politics too.
Posted by: Misha | April 22, 2008 11:47 AM
Obama 52%
Clinton 48%
Clinton vows to fight on. Obama is the one who will receive the most pressure to accept a brokered deal: supers decide to throw Hillary over by stgrongly suggesting to Obama that he throw his delegates to Gore and accept VP slot.
Obama will sit on the demand for two weeks, then make a grand announcement with Gore that finally drives Hillary out of the race and gives the party a realistic shot at re-taking the White House.
Obama the Kingmaker is hailed as a healer, a peacemaker who has unselflessly put the interests of his party first, before his personal ambitions. But in the long-term calculus, he has set himself up for a possible 16 years in the White House.
He also in one fell swoop erases concerns about personal arrogance and mitigates any doubts about his electability. He finishes off Hillary while curing his own problems, giving the nation eight years to really get to know him before he vies for the top job.
Gore and Obama embark on a whirlwind campaign tour de force across the nation. The polls show the Dem ticket solidly in the lead over a fading McCain, whose own problems and peccadillos finally gain serious media scrutiny.
Gore and Obama are elected in a landslide.
Hillary and Bill retreat to Chappaqua, where Hillary once again takes to throwing the good china at him. Bill blames Hill for squandering his legacy; Hill blames Bill for doing himself in. They finally decide to divorce and begin separate lives.
Hillary faces a stiff challenge from a progressive Upper East Side Dem for renomination to the Senate. Totally fried and exhausted, Hillary decides not to run, but to back daughter Chelsea, who will go on to be elected to her Senate seat and preserve at some of the Clinton political legacy.
Hill moves in with a longtime woman friend and continues advocating for causes with which she's long been associated.
Bill takes up with a 30-year-old starlet, moves to Hollywood and takes a position as a studio executive in charge of evaluating "talent and acquisitions."
Posted by: scrivener | April 22, 2008 11:46 AM
I'd like to amend my original estimate (I miss counted delegates)
Popular Vote
Clinton: 52%
Obama: 46%
Other: 2%
Delegates
Clinton: 92
Obama: 96
The media will flaunt Hillary's major victory. Hillary will say the people have chosen the candidate they know is ready on day one. Hillary will leave a huge debt behind in Pennsylvania and immediately fly to Indiana and really start slinging mud. She figured it worked well in Pennsylvania.
Posted by: MikeMcNally | April 22, 2008 11:45 AM
Clinton 52%
Obama 47%
Edwards 1%
Storyline - Because of a pledged delegate gain of less than 10, Clinton limps into IN/NC with money drying up and the 10 delegate gain being cancelled out by super delegate announcements for Obama prior to the May 6th vote.
Obama 10% or more wins in IN + NC, a new round of Obama super delegates and accumulating debt makes Clinton suspend campaigning on May 8th.
Posted by: wirro | April 22, 2008 11:44 AM
Clinton 53
Obama 47
Storyline: The Beat Goes On
Posted by: broxocrat | April 22, 2008 11:43 AM
On CNN, Hillary stated: She will continue on if she loses in PA; she will continue on until Michigan and Florida are resolved (I thought they were); and she will continue on until all of the superdelegates vote. This takes us up to the convention, of course.
And now Bill says he wants the votes counted the way the Republicans count them. (Wow.. all that and meeting with Dick Scaife, too???)
This was quite a surprise (nearly as big a surprise as her declaration that we would provide a "nuclear umbrella" for various Arab States - many dictatorships).
Does this remind you at all of Bush's changing goalposts in the Iraq War (read Bush's War)? 1) There are weapons of mass destruction; 2) We need to get rid of the horrible dictator Saddam Hussein; 3) we need the Iraqis to stand up so we can stand down; and 4) we need to get rid of Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Also, can you see this attitude of Hillary's changing goalposts carrying over into her administration (if she miraculously succeeded in all of the tenets of my first paragraph and won)? If so, how?
Posted by: Richard | April 22, 2008 11:41 AM
Clinton 53.1%
Obama 46.9%
Posted by: HK Mason | April 22, 2008 11:41 AM
buzzardist asks
"What's her position on Iraq again?"
Which position will garner her more votes?
Posted by: bsimon | April 22, 2008 11:40 AM
Clinton - 55.1
Obama - 44.9
Clinton continues... Fox and replublicans persist to bash Obama, in turn, weakening him for the general election.
Posted by: Alatise | April 22, 2008 11:39 AM
Clinton: 53
Obama: 46.5
Headline: With no clear winner, Obama, Clinton vow to keep fighting
Implied headline: OMG, will she just quit, already?
Watch for: Indiana becomes the new Pennsylvania becomes the new Ohio/Texas becomes the new California becomes the new New Hampshire becomes the new Iowa.
Posted by: Joseph L. Chambers | April 22, 2008 11:39 AM
Clinton: 50%
Obama 48%
Storyline: With a 33% margin in November and now barely scraping a won, how can Senator Clinton justify staying in the race? Did Obama's bitter comments stop him from winning Pennsylvania? Will I break the bank to buy a awesome Fix T-Shirt?
Posted by: Fix T-Shirt Winner | April 22, 2008 11:37 AM
Clinton 53.5
Obama 46
Storyline: No end in sight.
Posted by: Bethany | April 22, 2008 11:36 AM
Clinton 48 Obama 46
Despite the win, did Clinton do enough to stay in the race?
Posted by: Ben Weagraff | April 22, 2008 11:34 AM
Clinton 52.8
Obama 47.2
Clinton vows to stay in race and declares intent to arrive in Denver and argue on behalf of FL and MI delegates. Howard Dean unleashes hip new "hrryyyaaaaaghhh!" though from a completely different emotion than before ... and his head explodes.
Posted by: Kurt | April 22, 2008 11:34 AM
It's curious that international news (namely, the BBC) has the lead story on its website about Clinton's saber-rattling against Iran, with a vow from Clinton that the US will attack Iran if she is president and if Iran attacks Israel.
In all honesty, probably any president would be forced to attack Iran in that situation, but Clinton goes farther, talking about the US ability to "obliterate" Iran.
Clinton is sounding more and more like John McCain all the time, a social liberal and a war hawk. What's her position on Iraq again?
Posted by: buzzardist | April 22, 2008 11:32 AM
OK: Hillary wins by 8%, both sides spin it as a game ending result; Obama spins his loss as a delegate-clinching triumph while HRC notes that she has won all of the big states ands that the super's need to think of the party, not the stupid voters in non-Hillary states.
The race still goes on...
Posted by: matt | April 22, 2008 11:31 AM
Clinton 58, Obama 41.
Obama running out of steam? What's the end game? Frenzy of breathless speculation by cable-channel anchors, renewed talk about brokered convention, Dem leadership angst.
Posted by: billmcg | April 22, 2008 11:31 AM
Clinton 52.5%
Obama 47.5%
Clinton drops out of the race on Wednesday or Thursday.
Posted by: Joe | April 22, 2008 11:30 AM
Obama: 54%
Clinton: 46%
The youth vote propels Obama to win in Pennsylvania and nomination. Clinton drops out.
Posted by: Charley | April 22, 2008 11:28 AM
The truth is that Obama does not right now have the delegates he needs to call it a victory.
Take a look at Obama's totals.
If one calculates out an amount of delegates in a low range that Obama should win in the remaining primaries, Obama still needs 100 - 130 superdelegates to win.
So go out and get them.
This race will end when Obama can secure 100 - 130 more superdelegates - that is what he should be doing - he has the added incentive of telling them that when he gets to that number, it will be over.
It's that simple.
Or is it?? There are indications that 70 - 100 superdelegates simply would prefer not to make a decision. OK
And there are still those add-on superdelegates which have not even been selected yet, so its difficult to get a commitment from someone who hasnt been selected as an "uncommited" delegate.
Obama and his people need to get 100 - 130 more superdelegates - go get them.
Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 22, 2008 11:27 AM
67% - Obama
33% - Clinton
1 % - Jack Benny
There are plenty of "Typical White, Rural, Grandma, Gun Owning Church goers" that sure as hell ARE "bitter," but they were too lazy to get up in the morning and vote in PA, and elsewhere. She is fully cooked!
Posted by: Marbles | April 22, 2008 11:26 AM
Clinton: 54.5%
Obama: 44.5%
Other 1%
"Obama is looking less like a Wiz and more like a 'Whiz Wit' after this loss."
Posted by: TNSlim | April 22, 2008 11:26 AM
Clinton 57.5
Obama 42
Others .5
Posted by: jessem | April 22, 2008 11:25 AM
Clinton 53. Obama 47. The prevailing story will be the Senator Clinton's lost, last best chance, but the tenacity to carry on. It will be known as Hillary's Quixotic Quest. North Carolina will end it all, but negotiations will begin tomorrow for her speaking spot at the c
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