Hillary needs to get out of race. Bill and her daughter looked in tears while she begged for monedy tonight...get out please

Hmmmmm. Not a single precint has reported yet for Lake County (that would be Gary and Hammond). That's very big Obama territory. That margin for Clinton is going to be very small in Indiana.

Sorry, 1992 was Perot's moment in the sun. In 1996, times were good, Perot was an afterthought, and Dole fell off a podium -- which was the highlight of his campaign.
Look at the electoral college vote...

reason: Your 9:53PM Post s fairly accurate, but what you miss is the EC map, and by every "Reasonig" I can think of, McCain will win Pa, Fla, and Ohio if Obama is the nominee, and if if Hillary is the nominee, she wins all three and POTUS. I have studied the EC map since at least June of last year and on 15 June 2007 I came up with Hillary winning 309 EC votes and any other of the Dems then running could barely reach 200 against any of the viable Repubs, and I still am pretty sure I was ACCURATE then as I am now.

How is Obama doing in the white suburbs and rural areas of Indiana? The cable guys aren't telling me. Apparently, he got about a third of the white vote in NC, which is better than he's been doing in recent contests, but is it enough to negate the Clinton mantra that Barack can't win the white vote?

Tonite's results will not end Hillary's quest, but her ability to capture the nomination by way of the supers has been dealt a serious blow. Obama's victory speech exceeded expectations; he certainly has taken the high ground and is schooling Hillary on statesmanship.

But can he deliver the white suburban and rural votes? Jury is still out, but tonite, in terms of his battle against Clinton, it's advantage Obama... even Lanny Davis called his speech "gracious." Coming from Davis, that's high praise.

malis: I wish you could support your 9:06PM Post which I doubt. I think you may be referring to I would support the Dem nominee, This has changed for me since I have found my "Feelings" about this guy as to "Something BAD wrong about him" have been PROVEN to be ACCURATE. I am still waiting for the total in NC and if Hillary can come within 5 or 6% it would be, in a sense, a victory. With all The Media supporting him in their effort to stop Hillary in a certain victory for McCain in November.

P. Diddy, Donna Brazille should be careful. She is an overweight black woman...with that type of anger, she is prone to a stroke or heart attack!

Also, P. Diddy wrote

"Obama will win PA handily, be VERY competitive in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, North Carolina, and Virginia. He will hold Iowa and Minnesota.

He will likely lose Ohio.

And, I do think Florida goes for the septuagenerian against Obama."

Of these Montana, Wyoming, North Carolina & Virginia are all McCain states in November easily. I hope Obama does waste money in these states, but McCain wins. I agree that Obama will keep Minn. & Obama will win Iowa, which went Bush in 04. I also agree that Florida & Ohio will go McCain. I agree that Colorodo will be very competitive. Also, there is a close Senate race in Colorodo R's are gonna struggle to keep & D's are hoping to pick up.

Hmmm...here are the election results for 1992 and 1996:
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1992&f=0
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1996&f=0

Who is the funny eared little guy? :-)

I think Perot may have had more to do with victories over GHW Bush and Dole than Clinton being anything particularly great.

Hey JakeD...if Clinton wins IN by the margin of Rush voters, will CinC USOC give you a promotion?

Lyle,

Read and pity the fool:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/new-hillary-clinton-loan_n_100492.html

Diddy, it's likely to be a Dem year, but the selection process has resulted in a pair of candidates that are about as far left -- and with about as many negatives -- as one can afford.
November could have been -- easily -- a remake of Clinton-Dole in 1996; not even competitive. I still think it'll be a Dem win, and if McCain stumbles at all late it could end up as a wide margin, but if Obama stumbles...

Glad to help. Gotta sign off, have fun folks. Be excellent to each other.

p diddy, I'm not an LOL type of guy but I allow myself an occasional quiet grin

lylepink has stated in the past, under pressure, that he'll vote for Obama over McCain (remember lyle, back in the days when your FACTS and "feelings" told you with absolute certainty, that Clinton was an easy winner in the Primaries?)

lyle will have the pleasure of celebrating along with the rest of the Ds, when the candidate he voted for wins the Presidency.

Or, a wacky scientist with a predilection for time travel.

Or, a failed Redskins wide receiver.

Or, you're the charming gay assistant to a powerful Hollywood agent.

crt12 and Boutan, since my middle name is LLOYD, I assume JakeD is absolutely certain I must be somehow involved in the design of houses in the Prairie style.

Lyle,

Incorrect. Primary results and general election results have very little to do with each other. It's comparing the Research and Development department's internal quibbling about two different designs for their product with the Marketing department's sales pitch for the final design vis-a-vis competitor's products. Or apples and wheelbarrows. Whichever simile you like.

Do you have real numbers lylepink? If you overlay new Democratic voters in each state (60-65% break for Obama) on top of the 2004 election results, Obama will win PA handily, be VERY competitive in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, North Carolina, and Virginia. He will hold Iowa and Minnesota.

He will likely lose Ohio.

And, I do think Florida goes for the septuagenerian against Obama.

Bottom line: this is a Democratic year. The new voter rolls, the energy and attention this primary has generated, the genuine excitement among Congressional candidates worldwide (who see local trends in much more minute detail than these national polls), and the strength of BOTH Obama and Clinton cannot be denied.

CBS calls Indiana for Clinton

Boutan, thanks for bringing me back to earth.

The tone to the network coverage leads me to believe there's a blowout in NC and IN is closer than it currently appears. The coverage of Obama during these roundtables has been generally unfriendly during the last two election nights--"Why can't he close the deal?" "What about Joe Six Pack?" "Did Reverend Wright make the average voter vomit, or just pull the Hillary lever?"

Tonight, though, even some of the stir-the-pot talking heads on CNN (John King and Bill Bennett most notably) have been slamming Clinton all night. Lou Dobbs was his typical identity-politics self; but even Begala seems resigned, if not defeated. I don't think they'd be this haughty about their hype if they didn't have some data to make them feel confident about the result. That could mean only one thing: exit polling and crosstabs exceed expectation for Obama.

I knew Donna could lay wood. What a mensch!

IMHO, The support for Obama is mainly in the areas of the higher educated, higher income, first time voters, Socialist and Communist leaning, and most of all the RACE "Factor". Each and every one of these "Factors", and again IMHO, these folks are hell bent on destroying the Democratic Party. There is no way he can win the GE, and I have given him every benefit that I can think of in his favor. I will say again if he is the Dem nominee, McCain will be the next POTUS. The EC vote map is quite clear, Obama has ZERO chance of winning the GE in 2008.

Apart from the inane middle name capitalization thing, JakeD is not as bad. Nowhere near as bad as, say, svreader, Thinker, or that "idiot" jacksmith. Those guys have no original thoughts. At least JakeD is a real person defending his thoughts live and in person. svreader, Thinker, and jacksmith can only cut and paste BS.

I still can't tell if JakeD is a Republican, Independent, Democrat, Hillary supporter, Obama supporter, McCain supporter, Paul supporter, whatever.

Every time I think he's just a gadfly, he comes up with something that makes me think he's a lifelong Democrat (in response to one of my posts about the calcified group of Baby Boomer party activists backing Clinton, he mentioned, "This isn't our first rodeo").

In any event, he's nowhere near as bad as some of the truly idiotic people who post here and offer nothing to the exchange of ideas.

Donna Brazille laying the wood on EVERYONE. Love it!

crt12... Please don't feed the animals at the zoo...

We all know why he does it. And we all know he didn't go to Stanford.

So let's just ignore him, and actually engage in serious discussion.

Will be interesting to see how much of a margin Obama can run up in the north of Indiana to close the gap.

It is also VERY interesting to hear the commentary on CNN... Clinton is gone... they are all mocking their recalculations of what a "win" means. Best quote so far "Clinton will soon be claiming she is ahead in States that have 3 or more syllables".

Donna Brazille laying the wood on that pinhead Paul Begala. Love it.

JakeD,

I've seen you write that you're a Stanford educated attorney. I've also seen you capitalize the middle name of all three candidates' names. You claim that capitalizing the middle names of all three candidates makes such a convention fair, and that no candidate has anything to hide when it comes to their middle name.

Even accepting that premise as true, my question is: why do you do it? As a colleague of yours, I have to imagine that Stanford Law taught you that unnecessary capitalization is distracting to the reader. So, I'm left to conclude that you either think the middle names are important for some reason, or that you just aren't that good of a writer. Can you explain your use of this convention in a manner that resolves my confusion?

Clinton needs better spinmeisters on MSNBC. None of them are making any sense. Her folks on CNN are much better.

There will certainly be some group of African Americans who will perceive Clinton as having stolen the nomination. Similarly, there will be some elderly white voters who will simply not vote for Obama. This should surprise no one.

The 30% number is inflated. It's merely a byproduct of the heat of the race. MOST Democrats (by a large margin) will vote Democrat in November. Everything else is posturing and immature behavior ("I'm taking my toys and going home!")

The one group that should worry Democrats is the new Democrats. These mostly young voters for Obama will not be able to comprehend why their candidate did not win the nomination despite leading in popular votes and delegates. It will turn off the entire next generation of Democratic voters.

According to the exit polls today, Obama was wrong to say that he would likely get most of Clinton's supporters, and that Clinton would be less likely to get his supporters in the General Election

Taken from CNN.com:

According to early exit polls, half of Clinton's supporters in Indiana would not vote for Obama in a general election match up with Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

A third of Clinton voters said they would pick McCain over Obama, while 17 percent said they would not vote at all. Forty-eight percent of Clinton supporters said they would back Obama in November.

Obama got even less support from Clinton backers in North Carolina where 45 percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for him over McCain. Thirty-eight percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for McCain while 12 percent said they would not vote.

Obama voters appear to be more willing to support Clinton in November. In Indiana, 59 percent of Obama backers said they'd vote for Clinton, and 70 percent of Obama backers in North Carolina said vote for her against McCain.

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Congratulations to Barack HUSSEIN Obama!!!

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