check out www.larouchepac.com under breaking news section for the May 30 at 4:11pm, "How Soros Financed Obama's Campaign"Obama's campaign is a SHAM and he is a phoney!!! Because there are reports now coming out that both the DNC and Obama's campaign has been bankrolled by billionaire George Soro and his inner circle of millionaires since 2004 for his Senatorial campaign, 2006 to map out his presidential campaign strategy and 2007 when he announced his candidancy. Oh and let's not forget billionaire Oprah Winfrey's contributions... Apparently the exact number of super delegates Obama' needed to 'cinched' the presumptive nominee status Tuesday was specifically bought by George Soros' billions that afternoon and evening.Knowing more reports are coming out, can't help but think this is why both the DNC and Obama decides yesterday to stop accepting special interests contributions? He is a SHAM and a PHONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check out www.larouchepac.com under breaking news section for the May 30 at 4:11pm, "How Soros Financed Obama's Campaign"Obama's campaign is a SHAM and he is a phoney!!! Because there are reports now coming out that both the DNC and Obama's campaign has been bankrolled by billionaire George Soro and his inner circle of millionaires since 2004 for his Senatorial campaign, 2006 to map out his presidential campaign strategy and 2007 when he announced his candidancy. Oh and let's not forget billionaire Oprah Winfrey's contributions... Apparently the exact number of super delegates Obama' needed to 'cinched' the presumptive nominee status Tuesday was specifically bought by George Soros' billions that afternoon and evening.Knowing more reports are coming out, can't help but think this is why both the DNC and Obama decides yesterday to stop accepting special interests contributions? He is a SHAM and a PHONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come no one is asking this question to Mr. McCain, if his Experience and longevity in the Senate is to be considered a quality which will help America to move to the right direction and elects him as the president, then why are we are in this predicament? Aren't his party and their philosophy put us in this awful situation? Why do we have to believe him now after all this years of Public servant and the voice of all American people wasn't he suppose to make the difference, what has he done?

Or is he saying this to be elected and then go back to the same old Washington politics.

How come no one is asking this question to Mr. McCain, if his Experience and longevity at the Senate is to be considered a quality which will help America to move to the right direction then why we are in this predicament isn't his party and their philosophy put us in this awful situation. Why do we have to believe him now after all this time he has served as a Public servant and the voice of all American people why did we not see any progress what so ever? And infact we regressed as a Nation.

1. Obama's fundraising pal, Tony Rezko is found guilty for corruption charges, mainstream media reports....

2. Carolina Kennedy on Obama's VP search team may coincidentally appear to pick billionaire NYC Mayor Bloomberg because she works for him and this would follow the Anglo-Dutch oligarghy's agenda to install corporate fascism in the U.S. with the supportive of like-minded U.S. politicians and wealthy business people. Corporate fascism is the privatization of the U.S. government and the people's sovereignty is destroyed. Corporations and wealthy people will run the country.

3. McCain has challenged Obama to 12 town hall style debates WITHOUT teleprompters, LOLOL.... Guess everyone knows his secret, the inability of speaking publicly without teleprompters, LOLOL......

1. Obama's fundraising pal, Tony Rezko is found guilty for corruption charges, mainstream media reports....

2. Carolina Kennedy on Obama's VP search team may coincidentally appear to pick billionaire NYC Mayor Bloomberg because she works for him and this would follow the Anglo-Dutch oligarghy's agenda to install corporate fascism in the U.S. with the supportive of like-minded U.S. politicians and wealthy business people. Corporate fascism is the privatization of the U.S. government and the people's sovereignty is destroyed. Corporations and wealthy people will run the country.

3. McCain has challenged Obama to 12 town hall style debates WITHOUT teleprompters, LOLOL.... Guess everyone knows his secret, the inability of speaking publicly without teleprompters, LOLOL......

LaRouche Denounces British Imperial Drive to Control U.S. Presidential Elections
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June 3, 2008 (LPAC)--Lyndon LaRouche today denounced growing evidence that there is a British imperial drive to control the U.S. electoral process, particularly the U.S. Presidential elections.

``The evidence, as presented to me, is compelling. Foreign interests, specifically the British imperial interests, are playing a treacherous hand, attempting to shape the outcome of this most crucial Presidential election in the postwar period.''

Indicative of this effort, LaRouche elaborated, are the actions of George Soros, a product of the Anglo-Dutch offshore financial system, created in the wake of the destruction of Franklin Roosevelt's Bretton Woods financial system, to control the Democratic Party, through the spreading of massive amounts of cash, to contaminate the delegate selection process, and otherwise steer the Democratic Party into a self-destructive corner. ``Just look at Soros front groups, like MoveOn and his Democracy Alliance,'' LaRouche further explained. ``I am receiving reports that enormous amounts of money--the ill-gotten gains of Soros' career in offshore speculation and currency manipulation--are going into the pockets of some leading Democrats, in an effort to shut down the still-ongoing campaign for the Democratic Presidential nomination. The parallels to the 1932 Democratic convention, when the British-aligned J.P. Morgan interests literally attempted to buy control of the Democratic National Committee, to block the nomination of Franklin Roosevelt, are precise. Soros' Howard `Scream' Dean is the latter day John J. Raskob, the Morgan/DuPont retainer, who was installed as Democratic chairman to destroy FDR.

``I have warned,'' LaRouche continued, ``that the British are committed to eliminating Hillary Clinton from the Democratic Presidential nomination. They have no intention of allowing Barack Obama to actually win the Presidency. If Hillary Clinton were to be eliminated, the British would proceed, post-haste, to destroy Barack Obama, under a mountain of scandal, or by other means. Right now, the British imperial faction is profoundly upset at where things stand, because on this final day of the Democratic primary vote in South Dakota and Montana, there is no clear Democratic Presidential nominee--and that was not supposed to have happened. I have warned, repeatedly, about this British interference in the internal political affairs of the United States, a country that still retains a semblance of national sovereignty.

``We are,'' LaRouche concluded, ``already in the midst of the worst financial and monetary collapse in modern history, a collapse brought on by the British destruction of the Bretton Woods system, and the takeover of the U.S. Dollar by an Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy, based in London and in offshore financial centers, like George Soros' Dutch Antilles and the Cayman Islands. We must return to the American System policies that were last fully implemented by President Franklin Roosevelt. The stakes have never been greater than they are in this Presidential election, and I call on all patriotic Americans to join in defeating this latest British imperial treason.''

Moveon.org, Built on Soros Money, Campaigns for Pelosi Against Clinton
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June 1, 2008 (LPAC)--The Web-based organization moveon.org is running a pressure campaign against "millionaire donors" who support Hillary Clinton. The initiative is the more shameless in that it was notoriously one particular billionaire who pumped up moveon: George Soros.

The current moveon pitch is as follows:

"Stand up for Democracy in the Democratic Party.

"A group of millionaire Democratic donors are threatening to stop supporting Democrats in Congress because Nancy Pelosi said that the people, not the superdelegates, should decide the Presidential nomination.

"They're Clinton supporters and they're trying to use their high-roller status to strong arm the Democratic leaders.

"So let's tell Nancy Pelosi that if she keeps standing up for regular Americans, thousands of us will have her back.

"A compiled petition with your individual comment will be presented to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leadership.

"Full petition text:

"The Democratic nomination should be decided by the voters--not by superdelegates or party high-rollers. We've given money--and time--to progressive candidates and causes, and we'll support Speaker Pelosi and others who stand up for Democracy in the Democratic Party."

Embarrassingly, since Hillary Clinton has been moving ahead of Barack Obama in popular votes in the primaries, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has reversed herself and said only delegates, and not popular vote totals, are significant.

George Soros is acknowledged as the leading contributor to moveon.org. The group was formed in 1998, but Soros' big public arrangement with them was five years later.

In 2003, George Soros met with Moveon.org founder Wesley Blade at Soros's New York home, and arranged that Soros and his associates would lavishly fund Moveon. In the next few months, George Soros contributed $2.5 million, his son Jonathan Soros contributed $101,000, and these contributions came from the arrangement: Peter B. Lewis, $2.5 million; $971,000 from Peter Bing; and $100,000 from Lewis Cullman.

Thus the total put together by Soros in this one deal in 2003-2004 was just short of $6.2 million - one of the all-time largest "soft-money" packages ever. In 2004, just after this arrangement was made, George Soros began his personal sponsorship of Barack Obama's political career.

Reality Check to Chris, the DNC and the MSM - Hillary Clinton has been badly treated...she doesn't have to make the case - the biased media did it for her...contrary to the media's indoctrination...the public isn't as stupid as they think...even the hicks from the hills...we can see fairness and we can see bias...and we can see a media that is in the tank for one candidate...

trust me...it will be the democratic base that will be saying "We Told You So" when the democratic party goes over the cliff once again...it will be the democratic base that is becoming independents, will be staying home or those that became McCain democrats...the DNC and Obama camp think they can charm the Clinton wing of the party or scare the little women with Roe Vs Wade...guess what, this is not 1973...we have come a long way and if it means walking away from a party that does not even honor the votes then bye, bye...

We told you so...you would not listen...

So the Clinton's are dividing the party and thus making it harder for Obama to win, so that they can come back and say I told you so?

I AM RETARID FROM THE US ARMY I LOST ALOT OF FRIENDS WHO ARE HEIOS TO ME BECAUSE THEY GAVE THERE LIFE FOR OUR COUNTRY.....OBAMAS WIFE SAID THIS IS THE FIRST IN HER ADULT LIFE SHE IS PROUD TO BE A AMERICAN WHY DID SHE STAY IN THE USA ???I DONOT KNOW WHO I WILL VOTE FOR BUT YOU CAN BE SURE IT WILL NOT BE OBAMA...I KNOW A LOT OF WAR VET. THAT FEAL THE SAME WAY BUT THAT IS WHAT McCAIN IS COUNTING ON RIGHT OBAMAS WIFE IS A B***

The problem is that the Dem's have no winner takes all approach on the states. If that was the case Hillary would have buttoned this one up a long time ago. She still feels she won on Super Tuesday and now she is the "President in Exile".

Michigan and Florida would have more power now if they moved their elections to June.

Once again - Florida is a joke. When will they get it?

Now there's Bill - He just wants his free jet back. He should just keep his mouth shut because he is ruining her chances. We don't need Two President's in Charge.

No experience = Lose in November
Obama will not win.

I thought Hillary had too much baggage. Obama would be charged thousands of dollars by the Airlines for all that excess baggage he carries with him. To bad the so called News Media is carrying water for him - he would have been out of this race in Iowa. He has just started to be vetted.

A little late for the real contenders.

Interesting that when reading many of the Hillary supporters and their unhappiness with the Democratic Party and Obama, they claim that they generally and Hillary specifically have been "disenfranchised" and "hosed", among other critiques. I have yet to see one credible instance.

I supported Edwards, he lost so now I support the next best candidate. And so it goes until a Democrat is elected president.

What I look forward to seeing what all of these "hosed" Hillary supporters have to say when Hillary is out everyday on the campaign trail advocating for... Obama.

Found this on another blog and there are a great many women who are feeling disinfranchised by the coronation of Obama... I highly concur with her:

"Women have been messed over for many years by the Democrat Party and it appears that millions of "US" will be returning the favor, should this primary season continue on its current path. Hillary Clinton is clearly the best choice to be our party's nominee for President. As a life-long Democrat, age 55, I think the way my party has hosed Hillary and their most loyal and largest voting block; women intolerable. I am confident the Democrat Party will pay a severe price for this blatant assault on women in November. Cry all you want about this being "sour grapes" but little good will result from your on-going efforts to rally Hillary's staunch supporters around your chosen candidate instead of the people's choice. Now, the Democrat Party leaders want women to get their pre- selected from the start, elite, wimp, Barack Obama elected in November. It will be cold day in hell before I comply and I also hope Hillary walks away from this Party. Most of the women, and many men as well, with whom I have contact are finished with the Democrat Party, now and forever. Also, many of "US" are starting a grassroots movement to insure these kind of sorry tactics employed by my now soon to be former party, never happen again. This clear favoring of Obama, making him the nominee because the party doesn't want a woman, especially a Clinton woman, is more that I can tolerate. Of all the gall, the Democrat Party now expects "US" girls, including Hillary, to turn over our undying support to Obama. Sorry guys, this is not going to happen. Obama has no shot of winning in November without Hillary's help and all of us, her supporters. Not on your life or in your wildest dreams is this going to happen."

Talking points....

*Over the last three months, Hillary has won more contests, more votes and more earned delegates than Sen. Obama. More Americans have voted for her than any other candidate. In fact, more people have voted for Hillary than any other primary candidate in history - some 17 million people.
*We expect to maintain our lead in the popular vote after winning Kentucky Tuesday - a state that President Clinton carried in 1992 and 1996.
*And despite what the Obama campaign may say, declaring Mission Accomplished does not make it so. This race is very close, and there are enough delegates remaining to deliver the nomination to either candidate.
*We are making the case to superdelegates that they have a responsibility to nominate the candidate who is best positioned to win in November and best prepared to serve as President of the United States.
* Hillary has won the key swing states of MI, FL, OH, PA and WV and runs ahead of Sen. Obama when matched up against Sen. McCain nationally and in battleground contests.
*She is clearly the most electable candidate: She has won 16 of the 20 Republican-leaning House districts won by freshmen Democrats in 2006. And in a survey of rural districts in more than a dozen swing states, she runs far ahead of Sen. Obama against Sen. McCain in head-to-head matchups.
* America is fighting two wars abroad and facing a recession at home - Democrats need a nominee who is ready to address those challenges on day one.
* Hillary has made a commitment to the people of every state to give them a say in the Democratic process. And she is committed to ensuring that the delegations from Florida and Michigan are fully seated at our convention.
* The American people have not quit on her and she will not quit on them.

So much talk about Clintonites would not vote Obama come November, fine! keep your votes, hence your votes couldn't help elect Hillary as the nominee how much more Obama in the falls.

No wonder this country is in such bad shape. Look at some of these posts. The blog is becoming a dumping ground for "I'm right, you're wrong" comments. If some of you would back off and take a look at what's really going on around you, you might learn something. There's a lot more going on than what appears on the surface. Try looking beyond the media hype sometime.

To DSR:
Do you have any idea how many white women already support Obama? There are millions of us. I guess you don't get out much, if you don't know any of us. But just in my own family, we range in age from 21 to 82.

The electoral argument has "real merit?" Please. You embarrass yourself.

I guess, TIML, if "you're" (not your) not smart enough to know basic English, "you're" the bone-smokin' stupid one. P.S. I cast my first vote in 1978 and have NEVER voted for a Democrat. (Never will, either.)

"Maybe we should split the country by common sense and IQ scores."

If the exit polls are any indication, Obama would win this election in a landslide. Both against Hillary and McCain.

Isn't that the argument Clinton is making? Only the smart people are going for Obama. The regular folk like her.

Sen.Hillary Clinton is the STRONGEST candidate to win the Presidency. Party leaders and Superdelegates need to endorse her or the Republicans will win once again.
The Repubs. and Dems are responsible for the Fla & MI mess. Counting 50% is unacceptable.

Preying in on naive college students is pathetic. Lots of Black people are RACISTS. They hate whites. Obama is looking for Black Power in this county. He is not a President for All. Beware of the Preachers: Obama and in particular Rev. Wright and his followers.

What effect should "campaigning" in Michigan-VOTE NON COMMITTED- have on the delegate/voter count? What "penalty" should the "accidental" Obama campaign ad have on the Florida delegate/voter count?

Cillizza contiues to unimpress...so much for the WaPo's high standards.

god - who are the freaks like Rich who come up with this insane stuff?

i guess if youre dumb enough to be suckered in by team obama , i guess your dumb enough for anything.

stupid down to the bone...

To Alex and anyone else who thinks that the Clintons give a rat's a$$ about you - think again. She's an actress at best. She runs alongside Schumer in NY and takes credit wherever she can, even and especially if she's done nothing for it. She's unaccountable and has a very spotty memory. She cried to get votes, as pathetic and childish as it was. Her experience? What exactly has she done? She's a US senator from a state that she "lives" in only because it suited her needs to be a US Senator. She loves NY so much that she lives in one of the wealthiest towns, too. Right - she really "gets" the middle class. It's all an act to get what she wants. It's why she stayed with a cheating, lying husband. It's why she went after a senate seat in a state she never lived in, and it's why she will do anything, say anything to sabotage the Democratic Party's bid for the White House. She has her eyes on the prize 4 years from now since all logic dictates that this election is not for her.

I'm a working mother, have a college degree, live in a suburb, and am of Western Europe heritage. Parts of my 'profile' should lump me into her support base yet I cannot, with a clear conscience, trust her as far as I could throw her. Ever since Bill was elected President, she has done little to convince me that she ISN'T a clueless know it all, elitist and shameless conniver.

To: NotAlex

Interesting, very analytical. You care to try and qualify your statement?

Name calling comes very easily. Try and at least back up your statement.

If I were to delve that low, I might assume you're one of the brilliant people that voted for Bush twice... lol

i could give a crap if hillary is 2% better in the polls vs McCain in late May. picking the nom isnt just about polling, its about picking someone that'll actually do anything.

and i dont think Hillary will do a thing. I think she just wants to sit on the throne and cackle.

Wow...that "Alex" guy who posted below is a true nutjob. What a moron.

Oh please give it a rest Clinton supporters. No one has hurt Hillary more than herself. Nobody in the party has treated her badly, and she has done nothing but embarrassed herself by the constant stupid comments she makes every week. It's an absolute disgrace anyone with half a brain would even vote for this lady after half the things she has said, and ran her campaign.

I would vote for Obama and I want him to win but I would be just as happy to make sure she's not there and Obama lose because she's a disgrace to the United State of America. There's not a snowballs chance in you know what that I would EVER vote for this lady. Before you guys write another stupid piece like this actually talk about where things ACTUALLY stand right now. Hillary has NO shot to win this nomination, and put the blame where it truly belongs, on Hillary Clinton.

Looking forward to the fat housewife smackdown on Saturday in NYC. C'mon Hillary supporters...we've got the fire hoses and eggs ready for you!!

The Democratic party - especially the party elders - HATE the Clintons. They always have. Evidence the primary battle of '92 and the things that were said of 'ole Bill then. Reigle, Biden, Levin, etc. can't stand Bill and hate his husband, Hillary, even more. When she lost in Iowa, the chance was finally there to ditch Bill and Hill. The only Clinton backers now are those who they "own." I really wanted to see Bill go apoplectic when Gore sided with Obama, but I think big Al was keeping his options open for a convention-snatching nomination for himself. He doesn't have to decide publically at all anymore. (Too bad.) I realize that in politics a person has to be unscrupulous, but the Clintons are downright Machiavellian liars, who only care about their legacy. 'Ole Bill went to the polls every time he wanted to say something, just to be sure he'd get it right for the media-induced-ignorant masses' tastes. Funny how Bill hasn't got his husband to do the same things. Could it be that their "machine" has abandoned them? I said this eight years ago - the Democrats will not let Hillary run. And also this - Two years from now, Hill will be divorced from "fat-butt" and will cross the aisle to the republicans - where she belongs. Maybe then, she'll join the republican ticket in 2012 as V.P. What fun U.S. politics are right now. Two-hundred years from now, the history books will devote entire chapters to the first two decades of the 21st century. I can't wait.

Experience does not mean good judgment. Clinton voted to send 4100 Americans to their death in Iraq without reading the intelligence report on Iraq. Clinton voted to send hundreds of thousands in Iraq to their death without having anyone on her staff with security clearance high enough to read the report for her. Clinton voted to spend trillions on an unnecessary and unwise war without spending ANY effort to understand the consequences of her vote. Voting to go to war in self-imposed ignorance should be an act of treason.

Some of these remarks sounds like they are being written by a child. If so and so don't win - I will vote republican. Are you voting for the sake of the country or just like the Clintons - for selfish reasons. It don't matter how you vote - You will have 4 years of either one or the other. All of this bickering back and forth - is very sad.

I'm ashamed of our Country.

If they say told you so, a large percentage of Democrats will come back with 'you CAUSED this'.

if america confesses to true democracy and a democratic process then why hate a guy (Obama) who has gone through the rigorous of the electoral process and seems a likely winner? for the clintons they didn't see this coming...they banked on big states and ignored the small state...this is a new world order where micro (small) stuff has the last laugh.

DSR,

Please do not lump all white women in with you. I'm one, and would not vote for Hillary under any circumstances. She is a divisive, deceitful racist who is an embarrassment to her gender.

I don't believe, however, that she is looking to run in 2012. What is she going to do, dance back into Iowa and other caucus states after talking about how unimportant they are this time around?

Hillary, Clinton and Her Husband remind me of a Mussolini quote; either you are with me or against me no other choice in between. They do not care about America, all they care is how to control this country power after all corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, their attitude has become, we want WIN no matter what, we will do anything to get what we want. Is like a child who wants some candy and when the parents say no, the child will throw a fit. This kind of obsession is dangerous the least.
I will get what I want no matter what is what history tell us to be aware, Prince Machiavelli, definition was by all means reach your goal no matter what! scary proposition.

Hillary will not help Obama in the fall. She may give him a token endorsement but she'll do exactly what she did in 2004 to John Kerry: She'll stay quiet. She didn't help Kerry because she didn't want to be faced with him winning and, thus, running for re-election in 2008. The same will happen this time around. She is already planning her 2012 run with the "told you so" argument in this article and, again, in 2012 she doesn't want a fellow Democrat running for re-election. Clinton Inc. cares about nothing but its legacy and will stop at nothing to achieve its manifest destiny of both Hillary and Bill serving as President. Obama is a fundamentally flawed candidate (Wright, Ayers, "guns and religion", etc.) but he's done a service by knocking Hillary out of the race (this time).

PS - Here's a shout out to "Alex" and his belief that only people who think as he does should be allowed to vote. Very sophomoric to say the least - there's Post Election Stress Disorder counselors out there for people like you.

Did anybody notice? There are only about 200 undecided superdelegates left, but Hillary still needs another 300 delegates to win. Even if all remaining superdelegates would vote for her, it wouldn't help her any more. So screech your heart out outside the Rules Committee meeting -- it's over!

I liked Clintons even with all the scandals. I would have voted for them any time and did in senate races. Contributed too. But this primary has soured me. She is willing to sacrifice the interest of party and nation ( supreme courts etc) for her gain. All her tactics of belittling fellow democrat by comparing with Mccain is last straw. She has shown to be racist too. Win at any cost dimnishes her.

I may still vote for her if she is candidate but without any happiness or enthusiasm except to make sure Supreme Court is not ruined for next 30 years.

I CTFU at those who said Hillary is being mistreated. IT'S NO ONE'S FAULT BUT HER OWN. She and Slick Willy pranced around like the Presidency was an entitlement that no one but her deserved. She thought that after Super Tuesday this thing was a wrap, and instead she got caught with her pants down. And because she feels she has an elitist entitlement to the office she will burn the whole house down if she doesn't get the key. I am amazed at how many people say that Obama is so inexperienced and unworthy, and that he has robbed Hillary of the nomination. Well if he is so inexperienced how the hell was he able to beat out a woman that so proudly touts her 35 years of political experience? Those who scream they will go republiKKKan and vote for McCain would have never voted for him in the first place because all they see if the color of the man's skin, and his middle name. YOU BUTT MONKEY'S FORGET THE MAN'S MOTHER IS WHITE!!!!!(Shes got Jungle Fever she's in love). So vote for McCain and get 4 more years of Bush policies, but rest assured Hillary WON'T GET THE NOMINATION IN 2012 because she will NEVER GET THE BLACK VOTE AGAIN. And there aren't enough uneducated "HILBILLARIES" up thurr in dem hills to vote for her. She is political toast...(PUT A QUARTER IN HER AZZ BECAUSE SHE PLAYED HERSELF)....

It is strange but true that Hillary Clinton is trying to do everything to win the nomination, even if it is disadvantageous to her party and even when it is contrary to earlier agreement reached by herself. I am not American, but I can see the fact that she is too selfish.She has inspired changing rules mid game. I also find it possible that, her husband is on a mission of remotely ruling again. This is the motive behind, of which many have not recognized. He is the biggest pusher behind doors.

I don't have anything to do with your country because I don't live there, yet there's only one thing I want to say to the American people especially those supporting Clintons: Aren't you tired of the Clintons dominating the American politics ever since?! I watch your "Election 2008" closely and I am proud to support BARACK OBAMA though I can't vote for him. I wish i can though!

I would vote for Independent Hillary in a heartbeat.

It's actually sad that there are millions of people that would vote for her just because she is a woman... Obama simply because he is black... or McCain simply because he is a republican...

The truth of the matter is the only person that should win the vote is the most apparently qualified and promising candidate.

That being said, we should probably have more choices than say.... 2 or 3...

Things being what they are... we can't afford to experiment with newbies... The business of America is failing, in case no one noticed... I predicted this back when I was trying to explain to people why voting for Bush would be a terrible mistake... Of course this fell on dumb, deaf ears.. Well.. you people reap what you sow... You wanted him so badly, don't sit there and whine about it now, or your gas prices, etc.
Somewhere between the people that always vote republican and democrat, there are large numbers of uneducated people that are now endorsing a totally inexperienced "likable" black guy to office. Well, if he gets it, when he stumbles, because he has no experience and has to rely on his advisers and others with their own agendas, I don't want to hear you people whining about it later.
Read my lips, he has NO resume in comparison to either of the other two. We are in a dangerous time where the country is going down the tubes, and instead of choosing between the only two people with a real resume, if you choose him because he is black, he has a nice smile, or some other nonsense, you are no different than those that voted for an unqualified Bush. Mr. War president.
Now we have Mr. sit down with the enemies president. You people are so clueless you actually deserve to go down the tubes, the problem is you always bring the rest of us down with you. Maybe we should split the country by common sense and IQ scores.
I will repeat. I support Hillary because out of the 2 qualified candidates, everything points to her possessing the right skills and best interest of the people in mind.

Anyone voting for Hillary simply because she is a woman is an idiot, as is anyone voting Obama because he is black.

This is really no big deal in most pars of the world, people. Other countries have women and blacks for presidents. It's really not a big, huge deal. The U.S., land of the free and all, is just sadly slow with these things.

What do all those blacks I hear on the train saying "When he is president.." When he is president... what? The man has nothing in common with the brothas, no matter what finger motions on his shoulder he makes. What do black people think is going to happen? Their incomes will shoot up an extra 20K? You think that when we DON'T have universal healthcare, being black with a "black" president, will pay for the bills? Do NOT whine about this later...

(I am a "minority" myself, by the way)

The problem with Democracies is this: There are at any given moment, more uneducated people than educated, intelligent people (I dont just mean school, for all you college students), and so they are prone to self destruction.

This is why we don't just run on a popular vote, and have dumb party systems, imagine running the country on an open popular vote, the really qualified person would never get it, just the most popular one. It's comparable to how the geeky quiet guy that is trying to cure a disease makes only so much money and someone whacking a baseball with a stick makes millions.
If it werent for the fact I'm in the boat too, I'd be happy to see Obama win so we can watch him accomplish absolutely nothing.

We got change, change millions believed in.

P.S. You people that voted for Bush twice, shouldn't even get to vote at all... You've done enough damage to the country, don't you think?

P.P.S. Obama - If you really love this country and its people, I think YOU should drop out. Spend some time, build up that resume, do the country some good, and come back and earn it later. Sniping the presidency now, when the country is going down the tubes, won't do us, or ultimately, yourself any good... You'll go out like Bush, with lots of promises and little to show for them.

Good night, and Good Luck

I see why now they call this the fix. Your piece is nothing more than mindless and un-evidenced conjecture of a very bad kind indeed. I never figured 'journalists' to be so unabashedly conspiracy theorists. What exactly is the point of this article ... that anything Clinton says has some predetermined meaning for the press? Yeesh. Go back to traffic reporting or something more reality based.

After the Kennedy coments by Clinton I did some research and this is what I found out: She is capable of doing what she implied, that woman is racist otherwise she should have bowed out:

This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :
1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee
Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual
harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's
Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact
in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated,
and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization
died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in
Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot
wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed
Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his
car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously
removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people
which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported
to have ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in
her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula
Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling
of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a
tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena
Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney
General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time
of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,
1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development
Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "
October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had
delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death
from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
Guarantee scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her
office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security
clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee,
died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left
at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his
report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may
have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report
of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain
before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come

before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural
causes."
34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37
- Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William
Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve
Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who
might damage the Clinton machine

Posted by: Concerned John | May 29, 2008 1:25 AM

No hold, is a really angry american. How you let anger build up that much to strongly hate Mr. Obama is amazing to me. Truth be told, Mr. Obama has been nothing but kind to the Clintons. The gentleman has been the underdog. The fact that the underdog has beaten the Clintons, the Clintons!?!, make think about November

Being unfairly treated by the media isn't what killed Hillary's chances. She and her husband did it all by themselves. It's been her(and his) own words and deeds that have doomed her. First, there's the fake crying and the "I found my voice"(in an obviously phony voice). Then the "iron my shirt" fiasco. Then Bill's fairy tale comment. Then there's the phony story about how she landed in Bosnia under sniper fire, her flippant dismissal of the incident(she didn't misspeak or make a mistake--she outright lied about it), and Bill's lies about how she only said it once(it was at least three times, if not more). Now, they're trying to change the rules in midgame by doing everything they can to get the Florida and Michigan delegates fully seated, even though she was fine with them not being counted before(and even signed something stating so). And that's by no means a complete list. There's no way I could ever trust her with my country now, and don't see how anyone else could either.

The only way to truly honor Michigan's vote is to look at exit polls, because Obama did the right thing and removed his name from the ballot.

Exit polls show that if Obama had been on the ticket, Clinton would have received about 271,000 votes, and Obama 206,000 votes. Put these into the vote totals, and Obama still leads the popular vote.

By ignoring these figures, Clinton is becoming numbingly akin to George Bush in her stance of boldly stating what she wants people to think repeatedly, loudly, and without any wavering, so that her preferred positions can be echoed round the media, and have a chance of becoming acceptable premises.

Even more akin to George Bush, and I've only come to this view in the past 2 days, is the fact that Clinton's statements only make sense when you figure in complicated strategic calculations or hidden agendas, such as are laid out in the above post. Otherwise you have to think she's deluded.

As we see from McClellan's new book, the answer in George Bush's case is that he was deluded. Maybe this is the answer for Hilary Clinton as well. Maybe we should call it as it looks.

i will both not vote obama hussien, and will also switch paries should hillary not win.

Oh please...this piece should have never been written. It's based on a false premise and the logic is flawed.

The Bush-McCain primary (and McCain's response thereafter) cannot in any way be compared to the Obama-Clinton primary!

It was the Bush campaign and his supporters who ran the scorched earth/kitchen sink campaign that year - NOT the McCain campaign. So when McCain, who was on the RECEIVING end of "the kitchen sink" reached out to the Bush administration, he clearly was operating from the moral high ground - showing he was the better man. McCain had no image to repair.

This year, it's the Clinton campaign that ran the scorched earth/kitchen sink strategy. No matter what she does to support Obama, she will NOT be operating from the moral high ground - because HER task (unlike McCain's) is to REDEEM her image, if that is even possible.

Cilizza, you blew this one!

We have seen a lot of desperate Democratic leaders suddenly scrambling to "unify" with Clinton's supporters, now that they realize that their snow job of an election has caused turmoil and will lead to an Obama boycott in November.

The classic response to our anger says that we need to relax, take a deep breath, not let emotions cloud judgment, and to think about Roe, your uterus, Third World uteruses, Iraq, thousands of dying soldiers, the economy, Bush III, and many other desperate pro-Obama/Democrat talking points designed to crush the boycott and instill fear.

Well, here's a strong response. First of all, I do not need to clear my head and take a deep breath. I did not start voting yesterday, unlike many of Obama's supporters. Instead, I am a lifetime Democrat, and I have been voting for Democrats locally, state-wide, and nationally since 1978.

I am very experienced having my candidate lose, but then moving on to support the party ticket. I get the idea of party unity, so stop treating me like I'm an idiot.

Second, my vote in November goes beyond the liberal "issues" you describe: it protests liberal hypocrisy. The party espouses equality rhetoric but has been completely dishonest and contradictory during this election.

The party has bashed poor white people and people whose last names are Clinton. The party has ignored Latino voters because recognizing them challenges the "only racists vote for Clinton script."

The party has invented claims of racial injustice to demonize the Clintons, when it's clear the black people are the racist. The party has ridiculed "uneducated" voters, even though Democrats supposedly represent disadvantaged people. (Where do I fit in)?

Male party members and liberal media have constantly called for Clinton to drop out -- starting after Iowa -- in order to place an aura of doubt around her campaign. The party has ignored voters in Florida and Michigan in order to legitimize Howard Dean's bad judgment.

The party has completely ignored or even denied the sexist treatment of Clinton, while responding with absolute venom to any real or imagined "racism" directed towards Obama. The party has allowed Obama to wear multiple racial hats -- the nonracial black man, the just black enough to be an historic black president, and the black racial victim -- to secure votes.

If Clinton deviates even slightly from a prior script, she is portrayed as a horrible witch who would do "anything to get elected." I refuse to join this madness.

When Obama won Michigan he referred to Clinton's win as winning a "Beauty Contest", In April, Obama pranced around and described Clinton as "Annie Oakley" gunning her way through Pennsylvania for votes.

But when he came out looking like Steve Urkel bowling and drinking Yuengling for votes in the same state, the media and party ate it up -- another "precious" Obama moment. Recently, CNN.COM posted footage of some mesmerized journalist covering Obama's jeans. Why should I have to endorse this mayhem?

Third, I am unmoved by the progressive issues that the pro-Obama side uses to scare us into voting for him.
But you got to love "the horror":

If you vote for McCain or don't vote for Obama, the Supreme Court will overrule Roe, thousands of men and women will die in Iraq, poor people will remain poor, the environment will decline, we will not achieve peace on earth and domestic tranquility, and you will deprive "our children" from having a "great country." I feel a tear coming! I don't buy it.

These are just Karl Rovian "red alerts."
Obama is not entitled to our votes. He did not earn my loyalty.

Whatever loyalty the party had from me prior to this election has been destroyed.

Earlier on when we wanted to discuss progressive issues, the Obama camp and the media silenced our efforts and instead focused on the big rock star pep rallies, Obamania, Camelot, weeping college students, and a host of other unimportant concerns.

People could not tell us specifically why they supported him, but they knew that he was the best and that he would bring "change." They told us that we and Clinton were cold and unhopeful and that emotions and inspiration were more important.

Clinton was a mere "policy wonk," while Obama made people "feel good again." Well, enjoy your Hallmark moments and stop being two-faced.

Suddenly, you want to talk about the issues because it benefits Obama.

Earth to my fellow Democrats:
Obama's snow job does not dictate the way I vote.

Very troubling is our Democratic leaders went right along with the Obamania. Disregarding a very strong, competent, qualified WOMAN, with 35 years of political experience, that has a proven record of changes she has made, for a MAN with little to no experience that has a background that includes a very radical left agenda, and had a former Terrorist conduct a fundraiser for him.

As a woman, I find this completely insulting and a disgrace to the Democratic Party.

I am still focused on issues, but topics beyond their "red scare" alerts are important to me as well. My vote responds to a party of hypocrites who dismiss loyal Democrats, bash and disregard older folks and women, and manipulate race - while calling it "progressive."
My protest is about not wanting to be a part of a vote that legitimizes sexism. I do not wish to condone the younger Democrats' misunderstanding of the Republican witch hunts that hurt all Democrats in the past -- what they call "Clinton scandals," when every honest person recalls them as Ken Starr scandals! Where was the "education" on this issue by party veterans?

The DNC rushes to bash McCain for his 100 years comment, which reputable entities like Factcheck.org say was not even true, but Clinton is misrepresented abundantly and all we get is silence. Party leadership and the media sharply denounce anything that could negatively impact Obama.

They describe legitimate and fair criticism of him as racist, mean-spirited, evil, or "Clinton politics."
Clearly the party leadership has determined that anytime he looks weak, the "boys" will endorse him or call for Clinton to leave because she is "hurting the party" and "kneecapping" the "first viable black presidential candidate" - as if Clinton alone should bear responsibility for remedying the country's history of racism which has kept people of color out of high office.

Well, party leadership and media, you made these rules; suffer the consequences. To paraphrase Obama, don't tell me my disgust with your behavior doesn't matter. Don't tell me sexism doesn't matter. Don't tell me liberal hypocrisy doesn't matter. Don't tell me fake racial politics doesn't matter. Don't tell me I must vote for Obama in order to be a "real" Democrat.

If being a real Democrat means disregarding and bashing women, the poor, and the elderly, manipulating race, ignoring Latinos, and stifling dissent, then I respectfully resign my membership!

Achieving justice requires sacrifice, brutal honesty, and passionate commitment. I will not "endorse anything to get a Democrat elected," and neither should you.

HILLARY or McCAIN NEVER NEVER HUSSEIN!

I'm amazed at what's being said about Hillary. Not the negative ones, but the positive ones. Though I was troubled by some of the things they did, my impression of the Clintons was still positive overall.

That has completely changed during this primary season. Starting with her "I found my voice" comment and the "iron my shirt" incident, both so obviously fake, my opinion of them has gone downhill in a hurry. The impression I get from both her and her husband is one of deceit, phoniness, vindictiveness, and a willingness to do anything to win, no matter how unethical or what the consequences may be. I certainly wouldn't want anyone like that in my personal life, and don't want them running my government either.

I have my doubts about Obama also. He gives a great speech and says all the right things. Whether that will translate into being a great leader for this country has yet to be determined. I'd much rather give him a chance and find out how well he can do than see Hillary, whom I already can't tolerate, get elected.

The media is not fair to Hilary, no mistake about it. That's why I stop reading the Time magazine one of them, and also I go to Yahoo which has fair reporting than CNN and MSNBC. The Daily
Review issued many gaffes made by Obama, yet none of these was ever mentioned at CNN news or MSNBC. The media who's portraying Obama as a good candidate for President of the US will not persuade me to vote for him. I don't trust your reporting anymore. I am changing my party affiliation if Obama wins the Democratic nomination.

No matter what happens, Clinton will win. She is the best canditate.

Clinton has now taken Kentucky ... Nevertheless, Montana, South Dakota and Puerto Rico are still to come.

The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive and most likely to be decided by superdelegates If you haven't done so yet, please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

If you're tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support either Clinton or Obama

Hey Clintonistas! Did you here how Clinton got her Michigan and Florida wotes? These states decided to move primaries for earlier time. Democratic commity panish them and strip off their delegates,ALL democratic candidates including Clinton agreed that this is against the party rules and condemned this practice. All of them removed their names from the ballotts in this states. All of them but Clinton!
She changed her mind! This is excellent example of this family - their minds are very flexible. They have no strong convictions - political or otherwise. Do you want this strong feature in your future president, a person whose word is nothing? watch out - she will damp you too.

I know that Clinton will be out there boosting Obama and trying to get her voters to vote for him. She has to, to keep her bonafides with the party, and if the exit polls on election day show that her voters gave him the edge in the swing states, she will retain a great deal of her influence within the party.

I think she has to be a big supporter of his agenda in his first year, especially the issues she cares about.

But I think Obama will falter once he gets in office. He is too green and doesn't know Washington and he is arrogant enough to think that doesn't matter. And once he loses his surefootedness, the media will turn on him like sharks. Nothing gets them going like blood in the water.

If his first year is full of blunders and failure then he will lose a lot of his mojo because there is not enough history of him taking care of other pols to make them stay with him. Plus I get this feeling there has been a lot of strongarming and intimidation from his campaign to the party elites and those who experienced them will do their paybacks once he is no longer seen as the "Phenomenon".

Then Clinton has a chance to redefine her brand in the party, perhaps begin to champion the issues Obama has dropped or mishandled.

Of course that presupposes that she has the talent and surehandedness to execute her moves masterfully, qualities she has unfortunately not shown much in this primary season.

"I do not want Clinton 4 years from now after 4 years of McCain. I want Clinton for President NOW!"

NOW! NOW! NOW! ME! ME! ME! WAAAAAAAAAAH!

I am a firm believer in a balance of power when it comes to government. The Country is never well represented when one party or the other has a President, Senate and Congress all sharing the same party. That's a powerful love fest, and a dangerous environment where extremist policies are more likely to succeed. Keep that in mind no matter which party you tilt towards supporting.
My strategy is to vote for a Republican President when the Democrats have the power in Senate and Congress, and vice versa. This year I will be voting for McCain. Not my first choice, but he is the Republican Candidate.
I will say this about McCain. At least he HAS a track record of crossing party lines to work WITH the Democrats. Much to the horror of the Republicans. That speaks volumes about his character, more than you can say about Hilary or Obama.
What HAVE they done actually? Anybody out there really know?

I will dump the Democratic Party if they screw Clinton over by forcing her out. I do not want Clinton 4 years from now after 4 years of McCain. I want Clinton for President NOW!
Yes Clinton should run as independent just as Joe Lieberman did to win. I will vote for Clinton as President and no one else.
I hope Bill and Hillary are talking this over. After the way the DNC treated Hillary, they should turn their back on their corruption and inadequacy, run as an Independent and kick those Democratic scum to the curb. This terrible treatment of Clinton has backfired just like a shot of bad karma, the media and the DNC will find out that the people have spoken and the people choose Clinton. Obama is a sinking ship and boy I can't wait to see that ship sink after the crap he's pulled.

I hope Obama and minions are listening, your candidate will lose because your candidate did not win the nomination, it was stolen. Clinton should NOT under any circumstances support Obama. First, it wouldn't change any one's mind about why they do not want him to be President. Secondly, Hillary would win if she runs as a rival Independent.

Why does she need to deal with Democrats at all? Joe Lieberman didn't it. Hillary should dump the Party just as many voters have already done after seeing such terrible treatment of such a force of good in this country. A third Party created? Good.

Oh and get this. Clinton did not cause an division in the Party by finishing the race. To say such a thing is LUDICRUS! Obama and his disgusting racist campaign, and the media attacks on Clinton are why Obama is so hated by so many Democrats. This is a recipe of their own making. So I'm hoping for the fissure to break wide open and Clinton to win as an Independent. Then all of these whiners about 'party unity' can go take a hike.

Come on, the only reason Billary is fighting for Mich and Florida's votes is because she is losing. The DNC, Clinton, and Obama agreed to punish those states for violating the DNC rules, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballots, If Billary was winning, this wouldn't be an issue!!!!! The power hungry, Clintonite just can't accept losing. Enough Clinton's, no more!!!!!

Really Chris Cilliza is one of the very few commentators worth reading with respect to American domestic politics. The sign of a good political journalist is not being able to guess which candidate he would vote for. My guess is that he would support a democrat (c.f. ability to carefully assess each political moment, not just to jump to a cheap headline!). Anyway, keep it up. Hopefully Hillary is smart enough to look to the future come early June. She needs to do exactly what Chris suggests.

Perhaps if she doesn't then my assessment of how wonderful I think she is was wrong.

Wake up, Clinton True Believers; uncommitted Superdelegates are hanging back only to "show respect" for the futile effort of Hillary Clinton. As soon as the final primaries are over next week, the rush to Obama will begin.

This thread is absolutely wonderful!! Liberals, Socialists, Blacks, Feminists, Wackos and other left wingers gnashing at each others throats. Chaos reigns within the Democrats

Being an Obama supporter, I am happy he will be the next Democratic nominee. That being said, if Clinton did get the nomination, I would vote for her in a heartbeat over McCain, and I completely fail to see why large portions of Clinton's supporters wouldn't. I seriously feel like I'm taking crazy pills or something...

Obama will NOT win in Nov. This country is not ready to elect a black pres. This may not set with an individual(s), but that is the truth. Cut out the fantasy and look at the overall fact. We will most likely have another Repub. pres (oh no), but Obama will not be back in 2012 or later. Stick a fork in that turkey because it's done in 08

This is curious. Obviously each candidate has extremely loyal supporters. Both candidates are very close on the major issues like the war, the economy and healthcare. So, one of the candidates will be the nominee and one will not. Very simple. Let's say it will be Obama, just like the math says. Now why won't a Hillary supporter vote for Obama who is essentially carrying the same platform? If they vote McCain, do they believe in the republican platform? Will Obama be so bad that they would give up their beliefs and values? Do they want a continuing war? Do they support a failed economic policy that is tied to the war? Do they like it when America's image and standing in the world has deteriorated? Of course some will say yes but I'd guess the majority will say no. They will also say no when you examine McCain's blatant flip flops that will tell you that he has no real convictions. Its just politics.

I am ashamed of many comments posted on this blog. One person cannot hold the the whole nation to ransom over her presidential ambitions.I clinton claims to be more electable, she should have shown it by winning the Democratic primaries.She did not.All she wants to make sure is that Obama does not win the general election.Else why is she referring to race? (white)uneducated and blue collar jobbers? Is she a socialist?
Even the gambler knows the rules;for he saith,
You've gat to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em.
Know when to walk away,
know when to run..........

I am ashamed of many comments posted on this blog. One person cannot hold the the whole nation to ransom over her presidential ambitions.I clinton claims to be more electable, she should have shown it by winning the Democratic primaries.She did not.All she wants to make sure is that Obama does not win the general election.Else why is she referring to race? (white)uneducated and blue collar jobbers? Is she a socialist?
Even the gambler knows the rules;for he saith,
You've gat to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em.
Know when to walk away,
know when tor run..........

Clinton lost the nomination, so she could not possibly be "screwed out of it."

This story is a crack-up. If Obama loses, in what is so obviously a year for Democrats, Clinton will take the blame for it, after her comments like she and McCain are fit to be Commander-In-Chief, but Obama wasn't, or that she can win - basically saying that she doesn't think Obama can. She will become a political pariah to the Party if everything she has done to try and split the Party and divide Democrats ends up in the Democrat candidate not winning the general election. No one in the Party leadership will be interested in any "I told you so" comments...it'll be more like the Party telling her "It was your fault." Her political career will be over.

I confess I'm bewildered by the number of women who are voting for Clinton simply because she's a woman and for no other reason. She has an unbelievable sense of entitlement which her supporters accept without question. Why? Why exactly is she entitled to country-wide acceptance as THE Democratic candidate? What exactly is so extraordinary in her CV that, after more questionable gaffes concerning truthfulness and integrity that I can count, those who question her abilty for the job are fanged as followers of the anti-Christ? I believe a lot of people who are not going to vote for her would love to see a woman President, but not this woman. The turn-off is not what sex she is, simply what she is.

How is Hillary being "screwed out of the nomination"? She's still lagging far behind, even if Florida and Michigan are included. I'm all for a fair fight, but they shouldn't change the rules midstream just to make it look better for her. THAT, would be cheating someone out of the nomination.

Clinton lost the nomination, so she could not possibly be "screwed out of it."

This story is a crack-up. If Obama loses, in what is so obviously a year for Democrats, Clinton will take the blame for it, after her comments like she and McCain are fit to be Commander-In-Chief, but Obama wasn't, or that she can win - basically saying that she doesn't think Obama can. She will become a political pariah to the Party if everything she has done to try and split the Party and divide Democrats ends up in the Democrat candidate not winning the general election. No one in the Party leadership will be interested in any "I told you so" comments...it'll be more like the Party telling her "It was your fault." Her political career will be over.

Clinton lost the nomination, so she could not possibly be "screwed out of it."

This story is a crack-up. If Obama loses, in what is so obviously a year for Democrats, Clinton will take the blame for it, after her comments like she and McCain are fit to be Commander-In-Chief, but Obama wasn't, or that she can win - basically saying that she doesn't think Obama can. She will become a political pariah to the Party if everything she has done to try and split the Party and divide Democrats ends up in the Democrat candidate not winning the general election. No one in the Party leadership will be interested in any "I told you so" comments...it'll be more like the Party telling her "It was your fault." Her political career will be over.

I'm tired of everybody picking on Clinton, if the democratic party tries to screw her out of this nomination, than I would advise her to run in the National Election...as an Independent Candidate...stranger things have happened...like a presidential nominee named Obama....lol
That's RIIGHHHTTT....If Hillary ran as an "Independent" Candidate in the fall...gee, I wonder who she would pull votes from? "Obama-quin" or McCain? Who's side would she be tugging votes away from...Obama's done...You guys should do yourselves a favor and get the false messiah there to move aside and let Clinton take what's rightfully hers...the Democratic Nomination...

"Concerned John | May 29, 2008 1:25 AM"

So?

1 - Stu Sutcliffe, band member, died of "brain hemorrhage" before the Beatles hit the big time.
2 - Pete Best, original Beatles' drummer replaced by Ringo. Didn't die, but became a nobody.
3 - Brian Epstein, Manager, committed "suicide".
4 - Mal Evans, Road Manager, shot to death by police
5 - Paul Is Dead conspiracy, was supposed to have died in 1968, replaced by imposter
6 - John Lennon, killed in NYC by crazed gunman
7 - Maureen Starkey, former wife of Ringo Star, dies of "cancer"
8 - Rob Orbison, Traveling Wilbury, performed with George & Ringo, dies of "heart attack"
9 - Linda McCartney, wife of Paul, died of "cancer"
10 - George Harrison, dies of "cancer"
11 - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Beatles' transcendentalist dies of "old age"

Coincidence? I think not. Must have been the Clintons as well.

And what about Elvis?!

I laugh every time that I read "Nobody trusts Hillary."

Nobody? Has she not won the popular vote, which SHOULD include Michigan and Florida (not -- I repeat NOT the voters' faults) by over 100,000? Did I miss something here?

Obama will not win against McCain. When (not 'if' -- WHEN) this happens in November, you may humble yourselves quietly.

If by some miracle he DOES pull it off? I will apologize until my tongue falls out.

He's not going to win.
It's not going to happen.

Hillary WOULD win, if the DNC would only do the right thing.

Look, when Bill Clinton was president, i think we can all agree that we had a good country, economy, budget etc. Now back then, ALOT of people said hillary was really running the country and making the calls. So, if we had a great time then, and Hillary was really calling the shots, then WHY is she not the nominee already? Stop voting for a race and vote for an actual CANIDATE!!!!!

Did some body used the word appeaser. President? I don't trust any one who signed a document without reading it. Did some one used the word treaty. I only hope that our nice President would not have to sign any treaty. We would want to know one year later a treaty show up saying Hawaii was given to china, and was signed by our nice President. Before we think about what he can't do, let us think about what we can do. Mrs. President please read before you sign any document. PERIOD. You could have solved MI. FL last year if you had only read before sign. Don't feel too bad facts are facts.

By Patoir..CA

hello
new congrulations all the best.

Hillary can campaign as long as she wants to, the delegates
doesn't matter to the people,
our votes are what counts.
Stupid people made up the delegate game,we sure didn't.
And we do not want a corrupt
muslim for president, who is getting funding from syria, and has been involved with Rezko ( foreigner ) from syria
and has been on trial in chicago on 24 counts of fraud and corruption.
He helped Obama get his home in chicago and has donated huge amounts to his campaign, and has helped in other corrupt ways when Obama was senator in illinois.
Obama is a muslim and muslims
never change their beliefs.

Hillary needs to tell the Democratic party to shove it and run as an independent. She deserves better than the way many in the party have treated her. That way Obama can have the liberals and the black vote and Hillary can represent the rest of America that noone seems to care about!

Not a soul in this whole long trail of comments has said the obvious--if we want to win in November we should just get together. I would prefer Clinton as the nominee, but it looks like Obama has it, so let him chose Clinton as Veep. Then we can all pull together for what should be a huge victory.

Winning at any cost is the motto of Clintons. They would rather Obama lose in 2008 so that they can run again in 2012. They know McBush is at best one termer.
For Clintons rules are not important, for example Florida and Michigan votes should be counted for them, even though they broke the rules. Leaders like Clintons and Bush give bad name to USA, bacause they believe in winning at any cost.

Don't expect this "hard working" black voter to vote for HRC. I'll vote green for Mckinney. You should beware that she is an african-american strong woman candidate.

Strangely enough, the same demographic (blue collar and uneducated) who put Pres. Bush in power for 8 years are the same backing up Sen. Hillary Clinton!!!
I don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the link here!!!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! LET'S HAVE SOME EDUCATED PEOPLE RUN THE WHITEHOUSE AT LEAST IN THIS CRITICAL TIME FOR THE US!!! ENOUGH NONSENSE PEOPLE!!!

This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :
1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee
Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual
harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's
Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact
in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated,
and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization
died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in
Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot
wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed
Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his
car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously
removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people
which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported
to have ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in
her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula
Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling
of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a
tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena
Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney
General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time
of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,
1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development
Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "
October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had
delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death
from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
Guarantee scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her
office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security
clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee,
died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left
at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his
report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may
have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report
of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain
before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come

before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural
causes."
34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37
- Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William
Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve
Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who
might damage the Clinton machine

Senator Clinton owes Obama nothing. He has messed up his chances of becoming President all by himself. He is unelectable. She is one of the best candidates we've ever had, but the media and the DNC have worked against her from the beginning.

I am angered by the actions of the DNC and it's lack of leadership. If their lunacy brings us an Obama nomination, Senator Clinton should quietly go back to her job as Senator and continue her superior work and NOT ENDORSE OBAMA. He does not deserve the Presidency, nor is he ready for it. How can they possibly discredit her so bad during the campaign, and then expect her to help. The gall. The utter, vicious, gall.

Obama and the DNC