You wonder what will happen to West Virginia's tourist economy if they overwhelmingly support Hillary in their primary. She is the self proclaimed ambassador for ignorant, poor white Americans who hate black Americans. Sadly, she's proud of it. Perhaps the KKK will find it a tourist's haven.

You wonder what will happen to West Virginia's tourist economy if they overwhelmingly support Hillary in their primary. She is the self proclaimed ambassador for ignorant, poor white Americans who hate black Americans. Sadly, she's proud of it. Perhaps the KKK will find it a tourist's haven.

You wonder what will happen to West Virginia's tourist economy if they overwhelmingly support Hillary in their primary. She is the self proclaimed ambassador for ignorant, poor white Americans who hate black Americans. Sadly, she's proud of it. Perhaps the KKK will find it a tourist's haven.

Wow, is it me or has this blog gone hopelessly over the cliff? It's not just one or two days' worth; it's virtually every entry. No more debate, no more discourse.

Now it's just commercials for people's favorite pet candidates. I liked it better when rufus and che were posting (gasp)

PS This new comment mechanism sucks! Constant hangups, missed posts, or duplicate posts. WaPo, please buy yourself a real web server.

You wonder what will happen to West Virginia's tourist economy if they overwhelmingly support Hillary in their primary. She is the self proclaimed ambassador for ignorant, poor white Americans who hate black Americans. Sadly, she's proud of it. Perhaps the KKK will find it a tourist's haven.

Wow, is it me or has this blog gone hopelessly over the cliff? It's not just one or two days' worth; it's virtually every entry. No more debate, no more discourse.

Now it's just commercials for people's favorite pet candidates. I liked it better when rufus and che were posting (gasp)

Ha ha, the Clinton legacy just keeps on growing. You wonder what will happen to West Virginia's tourist economy if they overwhelmingly support Hillary in their primary. She is the self proclaimed ambassador for ignorant, poor white Americans who hate black Americans. Sadly, she's proud of it. Perhaps the KKK will find it a tourist's haven.

Evidence for the voter registration effect: A couple weeks ago I was chatting with a Rock the Vote organizer who said that huge registration swells were following the primary calendar contest by contest. Interestingly, the Rock the Vote registration web page was seeing a big surge in each state on its election day, even where (as in most states) the registration deadline to participate in the primary had long passed. All the publicity around the primaries was definitely motivating people to register.

IT'S 'DEWEY BEATS TRUMAN' TIME AGAIN -- AND OBAMA WILL GET THE MESSAGE

Progressive Democrats are coming to the realization that what the "right wing" has been saying about the "mainstream media" is true: They're a bunch of arrogant, insulated, self-important plutocrats who believe it's their right to dictate the course of American politics.

Hillary Clinton will win, and win big, in both West Virginia and Kentucky, while Obama already has ceded both states to her. Once again, she will score a landslide in rural areas and the suburbs, areas where most voters are not members of minority groups.

She's already toned down her rhetoric (something she should have done a lot sonner), so charges of "playing the race card" just won't fly.

With the demos looking very much like Pennsylvania and Ohio, the smug confidence that has pervaded the Obama camp will turn to panicked concern: What if Hillary scores big in the suburban and rural areas of a state like Oregon? What if Oregon looks more like Ohio and Pennsylvania than Virginia or Indiana?

Hillary Clinton is proving that Obama cannot compete where Democrats need to win in the fall: In the suburbs, in rural America, and in the big states.

But she's already disqualified herself from the nomination, having alienated both the party's base and its leadership with her self-aggrandizing and polarizing persona and her husband's flubbering bluster.

So where does that leave the superdelegates? Once again, the mainstream media has misread the political landscape. So Obama has pulled slightly ahead in the superdelegate count. But where is the tidal wave? It's not happening, and it won't happen. The supers are waiting, quietly, nervously.

JOHN EDWARDS TO THE RESCUE?

Just dissect what John Edwards had to say on the Sunday shows. Obama, he said, is the likely nominee. But he's withholding his endorsement. Why? Because his real message is this: Obama looks like he's ahead now, but as he continues to perform poorly among the demographics that the Dems need to win in the fall, the superdelegates will sit on their hands. And guess who wants to be available as an uncommitted party wise man when the party looks for a way out of its dilemma? John Edwards, of course.

Why else did Edwards use the Sunday shows to announce a renewed initiative for fighting poverty? He's not running for anything, right? So what's up with the poverty talk? Why were his words about Obama so cool and so measured? Why did he express appreciation for Hillary's show of "fight"?

Because John Edwards needs Hillary as his stalking horse. He wants to be the go-to guy, should the supers decide that neither Obama nor Hillary is electable in the fall.

OBAMA WILL TAKE THE VEEP SLOT TO FINISH OFF HILLARY -- AND HIS FOLLOWERS WILL GO ALONG

But what about the legions of Obama supporters, all those new voters who are supposed to be ready to vote Democratic iin the fall? Here's the calculus: They'll fall in line to support John Edwards, because Barack Obama just may decide that in the wake of Hillary victories in West Virginia, Kentucky, Montana, and yes, Oregon, he has no choice but to withdraw from contention for the presidential nomination and throw his support, and his delegates, to Edwards.

Edwards, of course, would immediately name Barack Obama -- the selfless healer -- as his pick for veepee. In terms of sheer power, this would be a co-presidency, because none of this can or will happen without Obama's enthusiastic backing. And both John Edwards and Barack Obama will know it, as will the entire
Democratic leadership.

This is the price that Obama must pay for defeating Hillary Clinton once and for all. And it is a price he SHOULD pay -- because this nation simply will not elect as their president a man with a scant three years on the national scene. Barack Obama may be a great inspirational leader, but he simply lacks the experience, as well as the political savvy, to deliver the voting blocs the Dems need to win.

OBAMA HAS CHOSEN NOT TO FIGHT FOR THE TOP JOB -- PERHAPS WISELY

Obama proved his political ineptitude by conceding West Virginia and Kentucky before a single vote was counted. Ask yourself: Is that what a Bobby Kennedy would have done? Of course not. Now Obama's rushing to West Virginia on election eve, a clear acknowledgement that his pre-election concession was a grave political error.

But it's too late. Hillary's on a roll. The only way the man Time magazine declared "the winner" can come out on top is to withdraw from contention for the top spot. Obama should do it soon, before Hillary has a chance to rack up more victories, because wiith each Hillary win, the doubts about Obama's electability will grow.

Obama could have finished off Hillary long ago if he went in for the kill. But he's proven that's not his nature. And maybe that's a good thing in the end, for this cycle - because it shows that he lacks the political will to triumph as the party's presidential nominee.

Hillary is not defeated. With each additional win, Obama looks weaker. It's time for Obama to play kingmaker, and execute the power play that will finish off Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and their machine once and for all.

It's time for Obama to let John Edwards pick up the mantle in a year that should heavily favor the Democratic nominee. The "inexperience" rap won't work if Obama runs for vice president. He'll bring along his devoted followers, and Hillary's too, except for the extreme feministas and gays who constitute her diehard core of support.

It's time for Obama to end it with a power play that will show who's got the real poltical stones.

Your move, Barack -- before the supers force you to do it.

Clinton is only doing herself a favor by staying in the race, in the hopes of keeping herself relevant in politics.

But it's for naught, just as the NY Times said earlier today, Obama is the candidate who beat the Clintons. For someone who was a political unknown just a few years ago, Obama has shown in doing this that he is the real thing, not just another politician.

Consider what some members of this blog have been posting - that Obama's tactics and contradictions have been tearing the party apart - good thesis.

The problem at the moment is that the partisans within the democratic party really can not see what is going on - and alot has gone on.

The truth is that Obama's contraditions -

first post-racial, then the blacks are all for him,

first he is standing by Wright, then not,

first he is for Black Liberation Theology, taking his children to the church, then no one wants to believe it.

first he is for the bitter guns statement, then he didnt mean it

This is the kind of stuff that NO ONE wants in a Presidential candidate.

This country has gone through Bill Clinton, then Bush.

The Obama people are desperate for a fresh approach, a fresh face - that is clear - however Obama is not your guy for that

Obama is not.

The last time the democratic party fractured, there was a civil war in this country and millions of people died.

Let's be serious and honest - the democratic party went through the 2002 and 2004 elections in support of the war.

To then blame Bush is a little well, you come up with the adjective.

If you look back at the 2006 election, the democrats could not even come up with a clear anti-war position then, their position was hazy at best.

Obama is not your guy to fix any of this.

Obama's little game of being post-racial however not practicing it - is tearing the democratic party apart.

Worse, it is distracting the party from a clear message.

Governing the country effectively and properly comes in a distant last in all this craziness.

I think it is great for Obama that the race continues, and it will give him a huge advantage going into November. This is true for a few reasons: vetting, organization, and Democratic party messaging. First of all, the things that have all come out about Obama are things that Republicans would not hesitate to use in November. This is still a time when the general electorate isn't paying attention. He is able to deal with things and get the media frenzy out of the way in front of a friendly crowd of Democratic primary voters. The Reverend Wright story will have no more legs in the media during the general election. Second is the huge national organization he is building. Because he will run in all 50 states, he will have organizations in every precinct in the country already. We already know that Obama can run an amazing GOTV effort, and now in the general election it will be with experienced staff in all 50 states. Voter registration and party organizations has gone through the roof in competitive primary states. This will be a huge asset for a general election campaign. In addition, he has been on TV in almost all 50 states already. While targeted to primary voters, general election voters have already been made aware of who Obama is and have a general idea about his campaign. This runs into my next point, messaging. Clinton or Obama are polling way ahead of John McCain in both Ohio and Pennsylvania, but not so much in Florida. I think this has something to do with which state's had competitive Republican primaries. The Democrat's have been able to spend millions of dollars and have received free media bringing their issues to the table. The general electorate in all these states has seen a debate on different degrees of universal health care or the dismantling of NAFTA, or Democratic economic ideas in general. Either way, they are all Democratic talking points. The point is, when John McCain has to start telling people about market based solutions to health care or why free trade is actually good, the messaging battle has already been won. Extremely competitive primaries in swing states have created a huge Democratic party machine, increased voter registration, and a favorable climate to their issues. As long as they can keep it positive, a June 3rd end to the race would definitely favor Obama's chances for a November success.

An interesting question to throw out there: who are all these Clinton supporters who claim they won't vote for Obama in the general? I don't know entirely how to interpret this phenomenon, which is documented very clearly in the exit polling. Do they really find him that distasteful? Are they just bluffing?

I'm inclined to think the latter.

Nah, let Hillary end this with dignity. No harm there.

I stand by my assumption: Barack Obama will win in the fall. Not to sound glib, but neither the RNC, right wing talk radio, the McCain campaign, the droves of "talking points" Republicans, nor John McCain himself have convinced me that he is going to win in November. I hate to sound cavalier, but I'd hardly be excited if I were supporting McCain. It will doubtless be close, but it plays like Bob Dole. Bob Dole & Jack Kemp are both good guys, decent people. But they lacked that "agency," as I like to call it, Which George W. Bush possessed, and still possesses, I think. John McCain is an avuncular figure, and a refreshing aside from most politicians on TV. But in the end, McCain is a country club Republican. Again, a good guy, many would rightly say a great man, but not the right guy. He's clearly well liked, well respected, and will probably continue to be. But he is not activating anyone in the way that George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or Ronald Reagan have (or do). This strikes me as problematic. The right wingers on TV are getting really excited at premature polling, and singular slices of the electorate. Meantime, the Obama campaign and people like me are seeing the bigger, broader picture: this is going to happen.

Three worst issues for John McCain this fall, in increasing order of importance: 1) "...the economy, stupid!" This really holds up. This more than anything else engenders my confidence in Obama. He's going to look like the resident expert next to John McCain. McCain's admitted deficits regarding the issue of the economy provide me with little confidence in his ability to steward the ship. This is transparent to me, and to Joe Six Pack, Mike Middle Class and Bonnie Broke. The right wing talking heads on tv & radio have more faith in their own ability to race-bait and play McCarthyism. I welcome the challenge, dear friends.
2) The Iraq War. BOOOOHH!! People are done with this war. It has been managed ineptly at best. People need to hear that this thing is coming to a close, not that the RNC & John McCain know what victory really looks like, and that they'll tell us when they think they see it.
3) Abortion. Obama is definitely carrying the under forty crowd this fall, but by how much. This issue could be more helpful for Democrats this year. Firstly, President Bush has recently appointed two very right wing Supreme Court Justices in John Roberts, and even more so in Samuel Alito. These men are hostile to Roe v. Wade and John McCain says they're his model. That means John McCain is hostile to Roe v. Wade, which means he is hostile to women in support of their own personal right to choice, and privacy. John McCain is very vulnerable here because it hurts his image as a maverick, an independent. Women would be wise to re-evaluate how important this issue is to them in the fall. Do two or three more Samuel Alitos on the Supreme Court leave you confident that Roe v. Wade --a woman's right to privacy-- is safe in the hands of John McCain. Not me, and I have a penis.

Barack Obama is going to win.

New York City Secession 2010

YOU All HAVE BEEN PLAYED

Obama started off as the post-racial candidate, stating all this lofty trascendent storyline -

however the truth soon came out -

Obama planned this early on - he planned on taking some innocent thing that Hillary or Bill Clinton said - and he planned on starting a whisper campaign to unite the black community in a racial way

This was completely at odds with his orginal campaign theme.

The way they planned this: they had to wait until right before SuperTuesday to pull this - so has to maximize the whisper campaign but not give the national media enough time to catch on.

well

Then the Obama campaign was ready in Virginia and Maryland - to score big wins based on a RACIAL CAMPAIGN - all the while deceiving white voters that he was running a post-racial candidacy.

It is pretty apparent how much of a fraud this was.

This complete contradiction was carried through to Wisconsin, where the progressives bought this wacky story.

The schedule provided Obama with some opportunities - however they PLAYED everyone.

This is more of a fraud than clever politics - and to be honest the people on this blog and others who claim that Obama is the one who is destroying the democratic party are not too far off.

After the nation was able to fully examine what had happened in the front-loaded primaries - Obama lost Ohio, the popular vote in Texas, Pennsylvania and Indiana. This week will provide more losses for Obama.

This is hardly a mandate for Obama - Obama has a narrow, narrow lead which was built upon a fraud and quirky democratic rules which obviously need repair.

The question is does the democratic party want to implode over Obama? Everything else is hard enough - the mixed feelings from the Clinton years, the facts that the democratic party supported the Iraq War in 2002, 2004 and who knows what their position was in the 2006 election however it SURELY WAS NOT clearly anti-war.

The democratic party is indeed in a mess - and it is hard to see how the party does not undergo severe strain with either candidate as the nominee.

One thing is for sure - the democratic party looks like it is on the verge of getting torn apart - the coalition of groups which make up the democrats have driven out white males through a hostile work environment and what is left is a coalition of groups which really do not appear like they want to work together.

The women want to make "history" the blacks want to make "history"

Anyone want to govern properly ???

The answer is no, they just don't care - these people are all losing it -

Have you seen these Obama people - somehow their hatred of Bush, their hatred of the war has driven them to Planet O and they do not appear to be thinking clearly.

The Hillary people are equally blinded by their drive for a historic year, and I don't hear too much about them caring about governing for the good of all.

Send us a candidate who wants to be President for everyone.

Obama is not the post-racial candidate - he is not for everyone - take a rational and objective look at his associations over the years.

His resume is not even close to the kind of experience or knowledge of the workings of Washington which he needs for the job. He got to Washington and immediately .... didn't do his job, he went on a book tour.

If Obama came into your office for a job interview, is he qualified ? Not for the top job.

Anyway, Obama's campaign has been a disgrace - and after much thought I do submit for discussion that it has been a fraud on the American people.

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Hillary is toast now and Obama will be toast come the general election in November.
While Obama's love affair with the racist white and America--haters Jerimiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan, and his association with Weather Underground America-hater Bill Ayers and criminal Tony Rezko don't make much difference to the mostly like-minded liberal blame-America-firsters Democrats during the D's primaries they're killers in the general election with the rest of the American voters. Add to that that there are millions of racist-Democrats who give lip-service support for Obama because he's a politically correct black candidate, but once in the voting booth change their minds (called the Bradley Effect) and you have someone who is un-electable.

I have mixed feelings about whether she should drop out now or play her hand through the end. However, in my mind, if she stays in, then what is important is how she behaves. Tuesday night when I watched her speech, I thought it would be okay if she played it out. Wednesday morning came the "hard working white people" comment.

That kind of campaign is destructive to the party. It is destructive to Obama's ability to win in November. It is destructive to the Clintons. I for one am sick of it. I have lost all respect I had for the Clintons. So if she continues on in this type of campaign, then I am against it 100%. If she continues on as Huckabee did, well then I am okay with it. As of today, five days after the vote on last Tuesday, I'm certainly not okay with her or her campaign. And I have little hope that she will change for the last three weeks at this point. It is really quite sad when you think about it.

Bottom Line: Hillary Democrats, please recognize that, should Hillary lose the nomination, under established rules, that she (nor any politician for that matter) is worth cutting off your nose to spite your face - especially when there is so much at stake. If you don't get your preference, will you stay at home, or vote for McCain, thereby allowing the Republicans to finally get complete control of the Supreme Court (bye-bye, Roe v. Wade, Griswold (privacy) and any assortment of civil liberties), to continue monetary policies that will further burden "hard-working" Americans, to continue to overextend our military and fail to go after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan, or pressure their financial support in Saudi Arabia, etc.? Get a grip. If you are willing to risk all that you claim is important by failing to support Barack if he is the nominee, then you are no Democrat at all. If Hillary is not the nominee, and she fails to support Barack whole-heartedly, then she is no better than Nader - a limousine liberal for whom this politics thing is all a game because, no matter how large the stakes to us common folk, s/he can afford (literally) to go against our best interests because the consequences will never really affect him/her. I remain hopeful that, if she loses, Hillary will remember that this is about so much more than her. It's about all the Democrats who have gone before and created an America where she, and Barack, could compete for the party's nomination - and about preventing their legacy from being further eroded by the Republicans.

bonjedi -

You say meaningless WV primary - that is no different from what Bill Clinton said after South Carolina - and the Obama campaign went on a vicious and evil whisper campaign calling the Clintons racist and saying that they offened the black community.

That was THE disgrace coming from the supposedly "post-racial" candidate - who with that episode bascially proved that he was full of a load of crap.

Well bonjedi, your statement is nothing less than racist against whites - to say that their votes do not matter.

I say their votes do matter.

Hillary still has a chance, especially since your candidate has zero chance of winning in the swing states, the superdelegates would be wise to think carefully about this post-racial fraud.

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bonjedi -

You say meaningless WV primary - that is no different from what Bill Clinton said after South Carolina - and the Obama campaign went on a vicious and evil whisper campaign calling the Clintons racist and saying that they offened the black community.

That was THE disgrace coming from the supposedly "post-racial" candidate - who with that episode bascially proved that he was full of a load of crap.

Well bonjedi, your statement is nothing less than racist against whites - to say that their votes do not matter.

I say their votes do matter.

Hillary still has a chance, especially since your candidate has zero chance of winning in the swing states, the superdelegates would be wise to think carefully about this post-racial fraud.

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Do you feel you owe the American people anything? Why would you vote against your own interest just for spite? That is the question I would have to ask people who say what you do?

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Happy: its interesting you are rich and can't wait to pay 28% in capital gains as though 20% was not enough. Last year I received repeated emails from moveon and DFA insisting that I support Obama or leave then repeated calls inisting that I contribute to Obama when they knew I was a founding member an a HC supporter. For 2 months every HC supporter here was constantly insuled including repeated racists posts pasted with HC supporters names to drive voters to believe that HC were racists when it was determined that those posts were actually being generated by Obama supporters.And you think it was acceptable for a GenY Obama supporter in W. Va to personally interrupt and insult a former Pres. and use vulgar names against a 28 year old Chelsea and former First Lady? And then the thugs in Gary Indiana who deliberately in co ordination with David Axelrod withheld Gary votes until 2 am that all surrounding mayors reorted on MSNBC had been delivered at 7:30 pm but deliberately withheld until after HC's 10 pm speech to create maximum damage to her campaign. Next was Obama's comment to Chris Wallace how surprised they would be how he supports comprehensive tort reform after insisting just weeks before that friends of mine who are trial lawyers and did not know of this sentiment that they max out for Obama; how cynical.

I spent 6 weeks in Denver with the Kerry/Salazar legal team, at a high level in Shaker Hts with the Strickland campaign and made 1700 virtual calls in Richmond, all at huge expense to my legal practice so please don't lecture me about what I have done for the D Party or the country, I could certainly ask you the same.

16 million Clinton supporters owe Sen Obama absolutely nothing for this abuse.

Posted by: Leichtman | May 11, 2008 7:39 PM

Do you feel you owe the American people anything? Why would you vote against your own interest just for spite? That is the question I would have to ask people who say what you do?

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Happy: its interesting you are rich and can't wait to pay 28% in capital gains as though 20% was not enough. Last year I received repeated emails from moveon and DFA insisting that I support Obama or leave then repeated calls inisting that I contribute to Obama when they knew I was a founding member an a HC supporter. For 2 months every HC supporter here was constantly insuled including repeated racists posts pasted with HC supporters names to drive voters to believe that HC were racists when it was determined that those posts were actually being generated by Obama supporters.And you think it was acceptable for a GenY Obama supporter in W. Va to personally interrupt and insult a former Pres. and use vulgar names against a 28 year old Chelsea and former First Lady? And then the thugs in Gary Indiana who deliberately in co ordination with David Axelrod withheld Gary votes until 2 am that all surrounding mayors reorted on MSNBC had been delivered at 7:30 pm but deliberately withheld until after HC's 10 pm speech to create maximum damage to her campaign. Next was Obama's comment to Chris Wallace how surprised they would be how he supports comprehensive tort reform after insisting just weeks before that friends of mine who are trial lawyers and did not know of this sentiment that they max out for Obama; how cynical.

I spent 6 weeks in Denver with the Kerry/Salazar legal team, at a high level in Shaker Hts with the Strickland campaign and made 1700 virtual calls in Richmond, all at huge expense to my legal practice so please don't lecture me about what I have done for the D Party or the country, I could certainly ask you the same.

16 million Clinton supporters owe Sen Obama absolutely nothing for this abuse.

Posted by: Leichtman | May 11, 2008 7:39 PM

Leichtman

I seem to recall you claimed to be a member of the bar. I presume you practice neither corporate nor tax law, since you are apparently paying 5% more in capital gains tax than the rest of us.

I also note that you cite no -- zero -- evidence in support of your smears of Obama supporters.

You've certainly been liberal with your comments here. It's time to put up or shut up. Do you have anything other than gossip to rely on?

Most would have the number of people who still believe that Hillary has at least a miniscule chance at becoming the nominee at two - Bill and Hill. Apparently there are still some deadenders here who have been away from newspapers for the last week.

Nice to see Leichtman, hanging in there, energized by the meaningless WV primary. Where were you in the days after Clinton got clobbered this week and Obama wrapped up the nom? Caw caw caw!

Leichtman

I seem to recall you claimed to be a member of the bar, yet you cite no -- zero -- evidence in support of your smears of Obama supporters.

You've certainly been liberal with your comments here. It's time to put up or shut up. Do you have anything other than gossop to rely on?

As far as I'm concerned, Barack Obama is the only one inflicting serious damage on the Democratic Party. The sooner he's gone the better. I'd love to see Senator Clinton take the nomination, but there's always Al Gore, Bill Richardson or Chris Dodd. I'd take them over Obambi any day. I'll be writing in one of them on my ballot come November.

As far as I'm concerned, Barack Obama is the only one inflicting serious damage on the Democratic Party. The sooner he's gone the better. I'd love to see Senator Clinton take the nomination, but there's always Al Gore, Bill Richardson or Chris Dodd. I'd take them over Obambi any day. I'll be writing in one of them on my ballot come November.

As she long overstays her welcome, she continues to damage herself, while ironically helping Obama. I used to blame Penn for this strategy, but he's been under the bus long enough for her to really "own" the master plan. I also assume Bill has a significant say in what happens as well, which I attribute to seeing a second Clinton presidency too irresistible to analyze logically. Problem is, her attacks have provided Obama fertile ground to grow in nuance in his repetoire of responses to these real world challenges, an opportunity lost if she had withdrawn earlier. Also ironic, he has the chance to be the next "teflon" president, just like Reagan, who Obama quoted oh so many months ago (seems like eons).

Happy: its interesting you are rich and can't wait to pay 28% in capital gains as though 20% was not enough. Last year I received repeated emails from moveon and DFA insisting that I support Obama or leave then repeated calls inisting that I contribute to Obama when they knew I was a founding member an a HC supporter. For 2 months every HC supporter here was constantly insuled including repeated racists posts pasted with HC supporters names to drive voters to believe that HC were racists when it was determined that those posts were actually being generated by Obama supporters.And you think it was acceptable for a GenY Obama supporter in W. Va to personally interrupt and insult a former Pres. and use vulgar names against a 28 year old Chelsea and former First Lady? And then the thugs in Gary Indiana who deliberately in co ordination with David Axelrod withheld Gary votes until 2 am that all surrounding mayors reorted on MSNBC had been delivered at 7:30 pm but deliberately withheld until after HC's 10 pm speech to create maximum damage to her campaign. Next was Obama's comment to Chris Wallace how surprised they would be how he supports comprehensive tort reform after insisting just weeks before that friends of mine who are trial lawyers and did not know of this sentiment that they max out for Obama; how cynical.

I spent 6 weeks in Denver with the Kerry/Salazar legal team, at a high level in Shaker Hts with the Strickland campaign and made 1700 virtual calls in Richmond, all at huge expense to my legal practice so please don't lecture me about what I have done for the D Party or the country, I could certainly ask you the same.

16 million Clinton supporters owe Sen Obama absolutely nothing for this abuse.

CC, that's the question you and others should have been asking a month or two ago. It doesn't really matter at this point whether Hillary stays in or not. She's done, and everyone but her loyal dead-enders know that now. Everything she does and says now is seen through the prism of the defeated candidate. Even a 30-point win in West Virginia.

What matters now is how gracefully she bows out and how enthusiastically she endorses Obama. And then whether she takes to the elder statesman role and makes herself scarce until the convention. So that's the question: how much grace does Hillary have? We'll know in the next week or two.

I should add, they have plenty to be worried about after seeing what he did to Clinton. She ran a bad campaign but didn't collapse by any means. She got BEAT plain and simple. And the machine is only getting stronger

I should add, they have plenty to be worried about after seeing what he did to Clinton. She ran a bad campaign but didn't collapse by any means. She got BEAT plain and simple. And the machine is only getting stronger

I should add, they have plenty to be worried about after seeing what he did to Clinton. She ran a bad campaign but didn't collapse by any means. She got BEAT plain and simple. And the machine is only getting stronger

I should add, they have plenty to be worried about after seeing what he did to Clinton. She ran a bad campaign but didn't collapse by any means. She got BEAT plain and simple. And the machine is only getting stronger

They know they have a weak candidate but all that stuff is a little silly anyway who they run against. The election will happen and there will be a winner regardless what we say here.

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happy: What you are others are missing is from the very start of this 2008 campaign for Prez, the Repubs pretty well KNEW they could not beat Hillary in the GE, and they could beat any of the others. Then comes their thinking of Obama being the weakest of all the rest. They then launched this strategy to vote for Obama in their hope of stopping Hillary and having the WEAKEST of the Dems as their opponent. This has worked very well so far, and it should also be noted that there is a whole bunch of the "Far Left Wing" of the Dem Party that are HELL BENT on destrpying the party, this includes Move-On, Huff-Post, The Nation Magazine, just to name a few. These folks are considered by most as being "Communist/Socialist" leaning. The Media, especially NBC/MSNBC , and all the others are almost 100% in favor of Obama, contrary to most Dems that have and in FACT support Hillary. My contention about these FACTS cannot be denied or disputed in any way shape or form.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 6:13 PM

They know they have a weak candidate but all that stuff is a little silly anyway. The election will happen and there will be a winner regardless what we say here.

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happy: What you are others are missing is from the very start of this 2008 campaign for Prez, the Repubs pretty well KNEW they could not beat Hillary in the GE, and they could beat any of the others. Then comes their thinking of Obama being the weakest of all the rest. They then launched this strategy to vote for Obama in their hope of stopping Hillary and having the WEAKEST of the Dems as their opponent. This has worked very well so far, and it should also be noted that there is a whole bunch of the "Far Left Wing" of the Dem Party that are HELL BENT on destrpying the party, this includes Move-On, Huff-Post, The Nation Magazine, just to name a few. These folks are considered by most as being "Communist/Socialist" leaning. The Media, especially NBC/MSNBC , and all the others are almost 100% in favor of Obama, contrary to most Dems that have and in FACT support Hillary. My contention about these FACTS cannot be denied or disputed in any way shape or form.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 6:13 PM

If Hillary wants to continue campaigning, then let her. She's effectively marginalizing herself and ruining her chances for any future run.

As to the Hillary supporters who express the fervent desire to see this through to the end to give the remaining states their say, the Republicans seem just fine with their choice being determined early and without the wear-and-tear and financial drain of a drawn-out primary election.

happy: What you are others are missing is from the very start of this 2008 campaign for Prez, the Repubs pretty well KNEW they could not beat Hillary in the GE, and they could beat any of the others. Then comes their thinking of Obama being the weakest of all the rest. They then launched this strategy to vote for Obama in their hope of stopping Hillary and having the WEAKEST of the Dems as their opponent. This has worked very well so far, and it should also be noted that there is a whole bunch of the "Far Left Wing" of the Dem Party that are HELL BENT on destrpying the party, this includes Move-On, Huff-Post, The Nation Magazine, just to name a few. These folks are considered by most as being "Communist/Socialist" leaning. The Media, especially NBC/MSNBC , and all the others are almost 100% in favor of Obama, contrary to most Dems that have and in FACT support Hillary. My contention about these FACTS cannot be denied or disputed in any way shape or form.

I think it is good as well. Both Hillary and Obama can use it as the lead up to the GE and concentrate on Mccain and not each other to get the ball rolling.

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It's good for the Democratic Party for all states to be contested at the primary level. Acropolis Review has a summary of some good reasons to consider supporting Obama. Feel free to share with friends in West Virginia and Kentucky:
http://acropolisreview.com/2008/04/top-reasons-to-give-barack-obama-your.html

Posted by: Tina | May 11, 2008 5:11 PM

It's good for the Democratic Party for all states to be contested at the primary level. Acropolis Review has a summary of some good reasons to consider supporting Obama. Feel free to share with friends in West Virginia and Kentucky:
http://acropolisreview.com/2008/04/top-reasons-to-give-barack-obama-your.html

Why would you say that? Even the republicans think they have a very up hill task to get this weak flawed candidate elected. I mean you can be a cheer leader all you want but you need to have a base in some kind of reality. Getting Mccain elected is going to be a monumental task against the political machine being assembled by Obama. You saw what he did to Clinton and she was a strong worthy opponent. He will destroy Mccain. You have to be kidding.

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JoyceV: Look at FACTS about the Rush Chaos and when it was revealed, as A JOKE. I Posted the Repub Strategy in January of this year, 2008, as to how the stop Hillary at any cost/price, was being done. This included voting for Obama in the X-over states and the changing of Registration in the non X-Over states. This has been very effective, and I commend those that have used this tactic. There is no way I can see Obama winning the GE and I also have stated from the beginning, IMHO, Hillary was the only Dem that could win in the GE in Nov. 2008. Look at the EC map and you will see how I have maintained from the start, Obama has ZERO chance of winning in 2008. Everything I can see NOW proves how ACCURATE I have been from the beginning. About the only thing I have been off on are the % of the votes cast and there is no way of KNOWING how many of these were in the stop Hillary category.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 4:55 PM

JoyceV: Look at FACTS about the Rush Chaos and when it was revealed, as A JOKE. I Posted the Repub Strategy in January of this year, 2008, as to how the stop Hillary at any cost/price, was being done. This included voting for Obama in the X-over states and the changing of Registration in the non X-Over states. This has been very effective, and I commend those that have used this tactic. There is no way I can see Obama winning the GE and I also have stated from the beginning, IMHO, Hillary was the only Dem that could win in the GE in Nov. 2008. Look at the EC map and you will see how I have maintained from the start, Obama has ZERO chance of winning in 2008. Everything I can see NOW proves how ACCURATE I have been from the beginning. About the only thing I have been off on are the % of the votes cast and there is no way of KNOWING how many of these were in the stop Hillary category.

No you will have made your bed. I am a wealthy man, it doesn't matter to me if gas is $50.00 a gallon. If you want the average person to suffer though just because of your spite, you are one sick individual. By the way, are you typing with your feet or something?

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Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

Posted by: LEICHTMAN | May 11, 2008 4:43 PM

No you will have made your bed. I am a wealthy man, it doesn't matter to me if gas is $50.00 a gallon. If you want the average person to suffer though just because of your spite, you are one sick individual.

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Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

Posted by: LEICHTMAN | May 11, 2008 4:43 PM

No you will have made your bed. I am a wealthy man, it doesn't matter to me if gas is $50.00 a gallon. If you want the average person to suffer though just because of your spite, you are one sick individual.

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Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

Posted by: LEICHTMAN | May 11, 2008 4:43 PM

Something interesting, My mother-in-law was a Hitler youth. What would it mean if I was running for office? That my wife must be a Nazi?

appy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more entitlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

You have it backwards. The phony votes were for Hillary not Obama and he would be even farther ahead. I would say they did not account for even 1% if that. How could you get it so backwards?

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I will remind you again, the votes cast must be counted, and as of now Hillary is about one hundred thousand [100,000] behind. This is with the X-Overs and Repubs that changed their Registration and voted for Obama in their all out effort to stop Hillary, because they "Feared" she would beat them in the GE. I cannot even give an ACCURATE estimate of how many Repubs did this but I think it is well within the 25% range. All these things considered as anywhere even close, then Hillary would be way ahead in the Popular vote when the Repub votes, and they will never vote Dem in the GE, are taken as not a vote for Obama, but as a vote against Hillary. I KNOW it is hard for you younger folks to understand this, but give it a couple of minutes and think about it, and then you will understand.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 3:14 PM

Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made your bed.

You have it backwards. Ther phoney votes were for Hillary noy Obama and he would be even farther ahead. I would say they did not account for even 1% if that. How could you get it so backwards?

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I will remind you again, the votes cast must be counted, and as of now Hillary is about one hundred thousand [100,000] behind. This is with the X-Overs and Repubs that changed their Registration and voted for Obama in their all out effort to stop Hillary, because they "Feared" she would beat them in the GE. I cannot even give an ACCURATE estimate of how many Repubs did this but I think it is well within the 25% range. All these things considered as anywhere even close, then Hillary would be way ahead in the Popular vote when the Repub votes, and they will never vote Dem in the GE, are taken as not a vote for Obama, but as a vote against Hillary. I KNOW it is hard for you younger folks to understand this, but give it a couple of minutes and think about it, and then you will understand.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 3:14 PM

You have it backwards. The phony votes were for Hillary not Obama and he would be even farther ahead. I would say they did not account for even 1% if that. How could you get it so backwards?

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I will remind you again, the votes cast must be counted, and as of now Hillary is about one hundred thousand [100,000] behind. This is with the X-Overs and Repubs that changed their Registration and voted for Obama in their all out effort to stop Hillary, because they "Feared" she would beat them in the GE. I cannot even give an ACCURATE estimate of how many Repubs did this but I think it is well within the 25% range. All these things considered as anywhere even close, then Hillary would be way ahead in the Popular vote when the Repub votes, and they will never vote Dem in the GE, are taken as not a vote for Obama, but as a vote against Hillary. I KNOW it is hard for you younger folks to understand this, but give it a couple of minutes and think about it, and then you will understand.

Posted by: lylepink | May 11, 2008 3:14 PM

Happy
Your sidw has been abusive to Bill Hc and Chelsea have abuse the D Party with Fla Michigan and Indiana and played the race card lile a Stratavarious callwd us old evil and dinosaurs.
Don r you dare play the guilt game. Youe side also told Boomers to leave the D PARTY.
We now are taking you and ypur campaign ay its word so don t think further insults or abusive cenY behaviors will win you more enritlents or our votes. GROW UP. You made ypur bed.

The one thing that I would like to clarify about my comment below is that, when I wrote that the dream of Clinton's candidacy was irrelevant to the rest of the country, I meant her personal dream. The dream of a woman's election to the oval office is relevant to all of us, and her candidacy has brought us a step closer to that.

jedwards posted this:

"...but even so, Obama will eat McCain alive. It's going to be Kennedy vs Nixon."

Kennedy vs.Nixon was a very, very close election, jedwards. Kennedy did not "eat
Nixon alive."

Polling indicates a Democratic year but McCain running ahead of his Party. Considering his excellent service to the country he should run ahead of his party.

While it may appear that McCain cannot overcome the tide, he will surely be competitive.

I think that it would be appropriate for Clinton to finish out the primary season, given her stature, the historic nature of her campaign, and her success as a candidate (the math may be impossible, but she did get a lot of votes and win a lot of big states). That said, I hope to see her treat these last weeks as a valedictory and conduct herself graciously, rather than continue to tilt at windmills and scorch the earth with incendiary attacks on Obama. And I expect that, when it's over, she support Obama's candidacy with full-throated ardor.

I understand how difficult it must be for her to watch the fading of a dream that was within reach of being realized. But that is of no relevance to the rest of the country. Similarly, I understand how difficult it is for her supporters to witness that same dream die. As much as I disliked much of the way she conducted herself throughout the campaign, she remains a forceful proponent of what I consider to be the right (as opposed to the Right) values and the right way of governing and leading this country. And she would very likely have made an excellent president, particularly in contrast to John McCain, who strikes me as a catastrophe-waiting-to-happen.

But Obama appears to be the winner of this contest, and he, too, stands for what I (and, I think, the Democratic party) believe. I also think that he will make a superb president, but even as just a figurehead, a symbol of who we are and who we aspire to be as a people, he is worth his weight in gold many times over. And so I hope that even Clinton's most vociferous and angry and disappointed supporters will rally behind Obama. Bruised egos and personal rancor shouldn't be writ large on the national (or the world) stage. The consequences are too potentially calamitous.

Sorry, I forgot to put my name on it until the last one, so I thought only that one would go through.

lylepink 3:14pm,
Have you heard of Rush Limbaugh's Chaos plan? You really think the cross over Republicans have been voting for Obama? You need to do some homework!

lylepink 3:14pm,
Have you heard of Rush Limbaugh's Chaos plan? You really think the cross over Republicans have been voting for Obama? You need to do some homework!

lylepink 3:14pm,
Have you heard of Rush Limbaugh's Chaos plan? You really think the cross over Republicans have been voting for Obama? You need to do some homework!

lylepink 3:14pm,
Have you heard of Rush Limbaugh's Chaos plan? You really think the cross over Republicans have been voting for Obama? You need to do some homework!

lylepink 3:14pm,
Have you heard of Rush Limbaugh's Chaos plan? You really think the cross over Republicans have been voting for Obama? You need to do some homework!

Since about 1 March, extrapolation yielded that Mr. Obama would be the nominee. I suppose, like Tommy Lasorda on TV, saying "so your team isn't in the playoffs, watch the champions", heightened interest in the primaries should translate into turnout in November. Current polls are immaterial; handicapped with his Republican baggage, there's no way Mr. McCain can beat Mr. Obama.

I will remind you again, the votes cast must be counted, and as of now Hillary is about one hundred thousand [100,000] behind. This is with the X-Overs and Repubs that changed their Registration and voted for Obama in their all out effort to stop Hillary, because they "Feared" she would beat them in the GE. I cannot even give an ACCURATE estimate of how many Repubs did this but I think it is well within the 25% range. All these things considered as anywhere even close, then Hillary would be way ahead in the Popular vote when the Repub votes, and they will never vote Dem in the GE, are taken as not a vote for Obama, but as a vote against Hillary. I KNOW it is hard for you younger folks to understand this, but give it a couple of minutes and think about it, and then you will understand.

So you are not a true demarcate.
So you don't care about the country beyond your own selfish wants.
So you don't care about the war and the number of guys who will die if you aid in helping Mccain win.
So you don't care about the economy.
So you don't care about gas maybe going to $8.00 a gallon.
By the way Hillary said just yesterday that she believed gas will be over $5.00 a gallon by this July.
So do what your heart tells you if your hate goes that deep.
I think you need to take a long hard look inside yourself.
If Obama wins you will still benefit even though you did little to help your fellow Americans when they needed you.
Last but not least, your comments are pretty much what I would expect from a Hillary supporter and that is exactly what Obama has been running against from the beginning.
I feel sorry for you.

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Catherine I share your sentiments 100 per cent. For 2 months I have been here begging the Obama supporters to back off and show some respect to their opponents or they will permanently destroy the party. Obama supporters have repeatedly said in a gestapo manner to either get in line or lea ve the party. So after spending 30 years as a paety activist I have decided to accept their challenge. I won t be a part of a party of teamster thugs who deliberately hold back the vote in Gary til 2 am to control the primsry spin and deliberately stop a revote in 2 of our largest states. These know it all Obama supporters will deserv e the wrath they will get from 16 million HC supporters. And after tues I suggest they not wate their time or energy in W Va who will totally trounce him. Proud you now have another supporter. At least they have had better since then to tell the Huckabee and Romney supporters to leave the party as expressed by the totally obnoxious Obama campaign. Don t gravel when you need our votes in Nov.We warned you and your response was to tell us to go to h+++.

Posted by: Leichtman | May 11, 2008 10:23 AM

'JD the thing is the democrats who supported the Clintons and supported all their trade deals and lobbyist sell-outs - they are all with Obama now !!!'

Another slam at Clinton supporters turning to McCain, not smart.

'The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,'

DON'T LECTURE US THEN BEG FOR OUR VOYES !!!

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

For those caught up in the moment and unwilling to step back to engage the sense of history in the making I repost:

As I posted yesterday, HRC's candidacy has proven to be a world changer whether you were for her, indifferent, or against her. Proud disagreed, but she was only posting the obvious truth that the quality of the candidate was paramount. I was arguing that even a high quality female candidate never had a chance before and now that mindset is GONE. HRC was, in that sense, the right woman at the right time, and when she loses, even if ungraciously, we are all talking seriously about women as VPS in both parties as if that were the norm; which of course it should be.

Ferraro's nomination and the candidacies of Chisolm and Braun added together did nothing for women compared with the coming out party of HRC. If Rice or Palin or Sebelius or McCaskill do not end up on a ticket this time they will be front and center again next time and so will others whose names do not come as easily to the mind and keyboard.

This historic fact alone means that no one else should pressure HRC except her closest advisers and friends. Anything else is too much of a reminder of what was behind the corner we just turned.
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I will add that there is a great distinction to be drawn between political differences and even doubts about character, on the one hand; and the sort of misogynist name calling that not only Leichtman deplores, but that makes every decent American, R, D, I, male or female, have to think twice about the cost borne by HRC just to get us to the point where we
no longer think Gov. Sebelius is a "novelty".
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bsimon asked whether BHO will symbolize turning the corner for America with regard to race in politics. Will there be many fewer stupid remarks about the next national candidate of color?

What do you think?

SUNDAY READING

Today's Sunday reading is a story about Obama's friend Bill Ayers - who started the Weather Underground - let's just have a short story about Bill:

Just so everyone here is up on the details we must review US History 101:

The founding document of Obama's friend Bill Ayers' Weather Underground called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."

Apart from an apparently accidental premature detonation of a bomb in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion which claimed the lives of three of their own members, no one was ever harmed in their extensive bombing campaign, as they were always careful to issue warnings in advance to ensure a safe evacuation of the area prior to detonation.

Nevertheless, their activities have often been characterized as domestic terror. Also included with the evacuation warnings issued in their communiqués were statements indicating the particular event to which they alleged to be responding. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a statement saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos."

For the bombing of The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the Harry S Truman Building housing the United States Department of State, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

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SUNDAY READING

Today's Sunday reading is a story about Obama's friend Bill Ayers - who started the Weather Underground - let's just have a short story about Bill:

Just so everyone here is up on the details we must review US History 101:

The founding document of Obama's friend Bill Ayers' Weather Underground called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."

Apart from an apparently accidental premature detonation of a bomb in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion which claimed the lives of three of their own members, no one was ever harmed in their extensive bombing campaign, as they were always careful to issue warnings in advance to ensure a safe evacuation of the area prior to detonation.

Nevertheless, their activities have often been characterized as domestic terror. Also included with the evacuation warnings issued in their communiqués were statements indicating the particular event to which they alleged to be responding. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a statement saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos."

For the bombing of The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the Harry S Truman Building housing the United States Department of State, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

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SUNDAY READING

Today's Sunday reading is a story about Obama's friend Bill Ayers - who started the Weather Underground - let's just have a short story about Bill:

Just so everyone here is up on the details we must review US History 101:

The founding document of Obama's friend Bill Ayers' Weather Underground called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."

Apart from an apparently accidental premature detonation of a bomb in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion which claimed the lives of three of their own members, no one was ever harmed in their extensive bombing campaign, as they were always careful to issue warnings in advance to ensure a safe evacuation of the area prior to detonation.

Nevertheless, their activities have often been characterized as domestic terror. Also included with the evacuation warnings issued in their communiqués were statements indicating the particular event to which they alleged to be responding. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a statement saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos."

For the bombing of The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the Harry S Truman Building housing the United States Department of State, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

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YES A CALL FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Florida and Michigan have the ball in their court now - the Democrats don't want the voices of Florida and Michigan citizens to be heard while the democratic nomination is still being decided?

How about if there is a movement within Florida and Michigan to deny the democratic party nominee ballot access in November in return ????

There is no way that the democratic party should expect ANY cooperation from Florida or Michigan.

Florida and Michigan have the CONSTITUTIONAL POWER to set the rules for their own elections.

If the democrats do not want to respect Florida and Michigan, it doesn't have to go the other way either.

Make a law that states that no political party can have its nominee on the ballots in Florida and in Michigan if the delegates selected are not counted BEFORE the nominee is decided, in this case when one candidate has the majority of delegates.

Obama has only himself to blame for actively attempting to PREVENT re-vote in Florida and Michigan.

Did you know that Obama's friend William Ayers was part of the WeatherUnderground - here is the quote from their papers:

Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."

Just would like you Obamaniacs to know what you are supporting.

'The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,'

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

Tom J

THESE ARE SERIOUS FIGHTING WORDS DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DISCO.

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Che Tortoise and the Hare
The Clintons looked at Obama's ears and decided he was the Hare and Hillary was the Tortoise? All she had to do was stay in? Maybe Bill believes in fables, if not fairy tales.

There are lots of hardworking, white Americans who are working hard to elect Barack Obama. Between Clinton's comment about them, and her 'gas tax holiday' debacle, she's simply not the candidate for 2008. (And the sniper fire and NAFTA didn't help.) It's like disco. Fun at the time, but we look back and wonder what on earth the attraction was.

The Party isn't being hurt. The Clintons are destroying their own reputation and legacy. Obama may be helped in the longer run because Clinton is losing her supporters not because of technical reasons and counts, but because of the above reasons. There's a difference.

p.s. Good job on Meet the Press today!

The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

I am a lying sack of, uh, 'spit', and my opinion is worth far less than an invitation to the Hillary Clinton 2008 Inaugural Ball.

The sooner Clinton realizes this and begins working to unify the party and bring her supporters on board for the fall campaign,

Once again the Obama suppporters call us evil have called Hc and Chelsea bitcvhes and .onsters then have the audacity to tell us WE OWE YOU OUR SUPPOET

That sense of entitlement is typical of genY and the Obama campaign. The more I read that garbage the more certain I am that this Yellow Dog will be working for McCain. Keep alienating,Obama supporters,that shpuld work out just great for your candidate.

To Joyce: I reposted what you wrote below but you may not know that it is a fact Barack Obama toured Walter Reed Long before any scandal broke.
Believe me I know my Senator better than most... And have the current honor of being discriminated against by him in Illinois just becuase I am Hispanic. What a way to unify our country.

THANK YOU HARRY!
156 to go...

I'd like to thank my own Congressional Representative Harry Mitchell, who endorsed Barack Obama today with this statement:
"I'm proud to support Barack Obama for President. Senator Obama and I worked together last year to improve care for our soldiers and veterans in the wake of the scandal at Walter Reed, and I know that, as President, he will work hard for our men and women in uniform. Like the primary voters of my congressional district, which Senator Obama carried, I am inspired by Barack's vision for America, his ability to unify our country and bring much-needed to change to Washington."

Posted by: Joyce | May 10, 2008 9:20 PM

JD the thing is the democrats who supported the Clintons and supported all their trade deals and lobbyist sell-outs - they are all with Obama now !!!

How can one separate the Obama people from the Clinton people??

Over half the Clinton administration rats have jumped ship and are now on the Obams ship, waiting for their next lobbyist deal.

Can anyone take these people seriously ?

JD the thing is the democrats who supported the Clintons and supported all their trade deals and lobbyist sell-outs - they are all with Obama now !!!

How can one separate the Obama people from the Clinton people??

Over half the Clinton administration rats have jumped ship and are now on the Obams ship, waiting for their next lobbyist deal.

Can anyone take these people seriously ?

To Joyce: I reposted what you wrote below but you may not know that it is a fact Barrack Obama toured Walter Reed Long before any scandal broke.
Believe me I know my Senator better than most... And have the current honor of being discriminated against by him in Illinois just becuase I am Hispanic.

THANK YOU HARRY!
156 to go...

I'd like to thank my own Congressional Representative Harry Mitchell, who endorsed Barack Obama today with this statement:
"I'm proud to support Barack Obama for President. Senator Obama and I worked together last year to improve care for our soldiers and veterans in the wake of the scandal at Walter Reed, and I know that, as President, he will work hard for our men and women in uniform. Like the primary voters of my congressional district, which Senator Obama carried, I am inspired by Barack's vision for America, his ability to unify our country and bring much-needed to change to Washington."

Posted by: Joyce | May 10, 2008 9:20 PM

JD the thing is the democrats who supported the Clintons and supported all their trade deals and lobbyist sell-outs - they are all with Obama now !!!

How can one separate the Obama people from the Clinton people??

Over half the Clinton administration rats have jumped ship and are now on the Obams ship, waiting for their next lobbyist deal.

Can anyone take these people seriously ?

JD the thing is the democrats who supported the Clintons and supported all their trade deals and lobbyist sell-outs - they are all with Obama now !!!

How can one separate the Obama people from the Clinton people??

Over half the Clinton administration rats have jumped ship and are now on the Obams ship, waiting for their next lobbyist deal.

Can anyone take these people seriously ?

The reason I think that it's useful for her to be in the race, but positive, are two-fold:
1. She'll win WV/KY by large margins, which would be bad for Obama if she's not in the race.
2. It's better if the supers don't step in and endorse Obama en masse until he clinches the pledged delegates (either 5/20 or 6/1, depending on whether or not MI/FL are counted). By waiting for this milestone, the supers avoid the political issue of appearing to have decided the nomination.

Note: These are both conditional on her campaigning without negative attacks on Obama. If she attacks him, the supers will step in.

The reason I think that it's useful for her to be in the race, but positive, are two-fold:
1. She'll win WV/KY by large margins, which would be bad for Obama if she's not in the race.
2. It's better if the supers don't step in and endorse Obama en masse until he clinches the pledged delegates (either 5/20 or 6/1, depending on whether or not MI/FL are counted). By waiting for this milestone, the supers avoid the political issue of appearing to have decided the nomination.

Note: These are both conditional on her campaigning without negative attacks on Obama. If she attacks him, the supers will step in.

I'd guess the country is getting tired of the Clintons. Maybe their legacy wasn't all that plus a bag of chips. Otherwise, how to explain HRC losing a one-time sure thing, Al Gore losing, etc.

To Everyone and flarrfan :

If you do not believe this story about Obama's house please feel free to search the archives of the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune and verify for yourself.

This character Obama is in with a bunch of very very bad people.

To Everyone and flarrfan :

If you do not believe this story about Obama's house please feel free to search the archives of the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune and verify for yourself.

This character Obama is in with a bunch of very very bad people.

To Everyone and flarrfan :

If you do not believe this story about Obama's house please feel free to search the archives of the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune and verify for yourself.

This character Obama is in with a bunch of very very bad people.

Additional response to flarrfan

Stop the deception right now - Since you decided to point this out.

When Obama decided to buy his house, the story is the house next to Rezko was for sale.

Obama said he could not afford to buy the house. So Resko offered to buy the empty lot between the houses. HOWEVER, the story is that Rezko OVERPAID $300,000 FOR THE EMPTY LOT.

That transaction allowed Obama to get the house for $300,000 BELOW MARKET VALUE (in addition to the reduction by the proper value of the empty lot.)

NOW why in the world would someone enter into such a transaction if there were not alot of shady deals going on between the two and amongst their friends ????

This in the neighborhood of William Ayers - so Obama jumped through a bunch of hoops to get closer to William Ayers the terrorist who bombed America.

NOW the story gets deeper: the title for the empty lot has apparently been transferred back to Obama, but the mortgage is still being paid by the guy on federal trial.

How this guy is paying the mortgage and the lawyers at the same time, who knows.

The story is there are now TWO deeds for the property, the one supporting the mortgage is not the strong one. So the mortgage has to be reviewed.

OK flarrfan let's tell the truth - stop with your deceptions and lies.

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Catherine I share your sentiments 100 per cent. For 2 months I have been here begging the Obama supporters to back off and show some respect to their opponents or they will permanently destroy the party. Obama supporters have repeatedly said in a gestapo manner to either get in line or lea ve the party. So after spending 30 years as a paety activist I have decided to accept their challenge. I won t be a part of a party of teamster thugs who deliberately hold back the vote in Gary til 2 am to control the primsry spin and deliberately stop a revote in 2 of our largest states. These know it all Obama supporters will deserv e the wrath they will get from 16 million HC supporters. And after tues I suggest they not wate their time or energy in W Va who will totally trounce him. Proud you now have another supporter. At least they have had better since then to tell the Huckabee and Romney supporters to leave the party as expressed by the totally obnoxious Obama campaign. Don t gravel when you need our votes in Nov.We warned you and your response was to tell us to go to h+++.

Response to flarrfan

Birds of a feather flock together. Rezko is a good friend of Obama who is on federal trial in Chicago.

The whole thing stinks from A to Z.

I really do not appreciate you attempting to make light of these serious charges or attempting to deceive people about the relationship to Obama.

Take your lies elsewhere.

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Your post exemplifies what happened to Hillary. Times have changed. Those races were run at a time when all people knew was what they learned from the 6 o'clock evening news. The campaigns ran almost in a vacuum as far as most voters were concerned. This is today. 24 hour news in an instant on at least 5 cable channels. The candadets get almost complete saturation. There is no need any more. Nothing new is to be learned from the candidates. Not running a campaign geared to the 21st century in terms of the internet, fund raising, youtube, ability to see through lies. Hillary learned that with the sniper story. She has been used to BS people and then, DENY, DENY, DENY, DENY, DENY. I am sorry, Hillary and Bill don't get it anymore and they are paying the price.

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et's see:

Reagan in 1976
Ted Kennedy in 1980
Gary Hart in 1984
Jesse Jackson in 1988
Jerry Brown in 1992

All stayed in the race long after it was clear they wouldn't win, some to the convention. They didn't face this barrage of calls to quit - which Hillary started getting even while her candidacy was viable.

There has been a double standard applied to Hillary, and it's because she's female. A female has upset the status quo far more than a black candidate has. Women don't fit the paternalistic norm of a US president. People obviously are uncomfortable with a woman in power. That should be the story.

Posted by: Yappa | May 11, 2008 9:52 AM

flarrfan

I hate to tell you, however if you are implying that McCain is a status quo candidate, you are out of your mind.

I suggest you read a little about McCain before typing.

The democrats have already started their campaign of lies about McCain and to be honest after all the complaining about swiftboating, it appears they are first in line this time.

Your post exemplifies what happened to Hillary. Times have changed. Those races were run at a time when all people knew was what they learned from the 6 o'clock evening news. The campaigns ran almost in a vacuum as far as most voters were concerned. This is today. 24 hour news in an instant on at least 5 cable channels. The candadets get almost complete saturation. There is no need any more. Nothing new is to be learned from the candidates. Not running a campaine geared to the 21st century in terms of the internet, fund raising, yuotube, ability to see through lies. Hillary learned that with the sniper story. She has been used to BS people and then, DENY, DENY, DENY, DENY, DENY. I am sorry, Hillary and Bill don't get it anymore and they are paying the price.

++++++++++++
et's see:

Reagan in 1976
Ted Kennedy in 1980
Gary Hart in 1984
Jesse Jackson in 1988
Jerry Brown in 1992

All stayed in the race long after it was clear they wouldn't win, some to the convention. They didn't face this barrage of calls to quit - which Hillary started getting even while her candidacy was viable.

There has been a double standard applied to Hillary, and it's because she's female. A female has upset the status quo far more than a black candidate has. Women don't fit the paternalistic norm of a US president. People obviously are uncomfortable with a woman in power. That should be the story.

Posted by: Yappa | May 11, 2008 9:52 AM

What is astonishing is that many Obama people are not aware that one of Obama's close friends is on trial on federal charges.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 11, 2008 7:52 AM

The Rezko trial is NOT about Obama, and just about the only evidence against him has been supplied by a credibility-challenged GOP operative who worked closely with Rezko on patronage schemes involving Illinois politicians with no direct connections to Obama.

Paul vs. Clinton is all about Billary. On the slim chance that blog regulars here are not familiar with the case, Google is your friend.

The democrats seriously made a mistake with Michigan - Florida is lost I can tell you that.

Michigan the democrats need to win in November.

Think about it - what was so bad about allowing Michigan and Florida to go ahead like Nevada and South Carolina ?

Now the democrats may have ruined their chances to put forth the strongest candidate.

If Florida and Michigan's delegates had counted for Hillary all along, Obama's lead would be extremely different, it would be much smaller.

The Obama people are lost.

I'm sure any of the Obama people who take their minds off of Plantet O may believe they can win without Floriday, however Michigan is a whole different story.

The truth is Bill Clinton and the democrats pushed through all those trade deals which hurt Michigan - its a plan to limit the voice of Michigan to complain about the free trade deals.

Why do you think Ohio was buried so late in the democrats' schedule ???

It was a plot t