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*****MEDIA ALERT*****

VOTERS RECLAIM THEIR VOICES AND VOW TO "JUST SAY NO DEAL"

Explosion of rogue grassroots organizations coalesces overnight to form Mega-Coalition: JustSayNoDeal.com

- Online, in Washington D.C. and Nationwide-- Growing exponentially -- individually, but infinitely together in one unifying mission -- they are Senator Barack Obama's gravest concern. On the evening of June 8, 2008, dozens of grassroots organizations and political activists convened a conference call and formed a coalition: Just Say No Deal. Its goal? : To turn the current race on its head and remind voters that all options are on the table this November.

Just Say No Deal is an umbrella organization giving voice to over 80 grassroots organizations, blogs and millions of self- professed PUMAs (Party Unity My A_ _) intent on one mission: NOBAMA! Coalition members are pushing varying agendas and voting strategies, but the factions are united in their unwavering decision to not "fall in line" by supporting Barack Obama.

Concerned citizens have come out of the woodwork to express their distaste for and frustration with party leaders and the outcome of the nominating process. The Just Say No Deal website offers those voters an array of choices to assist in their decision-making process. The coalition will continue to organize in pursuit of its mission of keeping another unqualified candidate from inheriting the Oval Office.

LIST OF JUST SAY NO DEAL COALITION MEMBERS:

writehillaryin.com
clintondems.com
swingcrats.org
hireheels.com
hillarysupporters.com
clintons4mccain.com
hillarygrassrootscampaign.com
riverdaughter.wordpress.com
hillaryclintonforum.net
womenforfairpolitics.com
donedems.com
pumaparty.com
hillaryunited.com
savagepolitics.com
seatourdelegates.com
noquarterusa.net
liberalrapture.com
nowewont.org
shutthefreudup.com
pumapac.org
petitionforhowarddeantoresignasdncchair
petitionpledgetovoteagainstobama
petitionhillarydontbevp
millionwomenmarch.blogspot.com
obamawtf.blogspot.com
rezkowatch.blogspot.com
pumapac.blogspot.com
clintondem.blogspot.com
fair-reflection.blogspot.com
bluelyon.blogspot.com
comealongway.blogspot.com
reflections-in-tyme.blogspot.com
mccaindemocrats.blogspot.com
worstlittlecaucusintexas.blogspot.com
caucusconfession.blogspot.com
caucuscheating.blogspot.com
florida-michigan.blogspot.com
floridavoters.blogspot.com
hillaryorbust.blogspot.com
politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com
independentsformccain.blogspot.com
americaforhillary.blogspot.com
whatsuddenly.blogspot.com
panmetron.blogspot.com
typicalpawhitewoman.blogspot.com
politicallizard.blogspot.com
nobamablog.blogspot.com
investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com
hillarygreenmountain.com
floridademandsrepresentation
latinosforclinton.com
paresidentsforhillary.com
hillary-clintons-voice.com
walkamileinourshoes.org
misshillaryclinton.com
democrats-against-obama.org
writeinpartyusa.org
knowobama.org
reclusiveleftist.com
givemehill.com
helphillary.org
hillary-wins.com
sugarnspice
bitterpoliticz
insightanalytical
perrylogan
paganpower
4hillaryweblog
mudanpoliticalblog
mccainb4obama.com
citizenpressroom
justwatchmeburn.livejournal.com
capitalhillforum.com
hillaryisourchoice.com
no-obama09.com
f-u-dnc
hcsfjm.com
lobbydelegates.com

People of all stripes were sick to death of the Clintons long before the year 2000. In 2007-08, Hillary played a true to life Dick Nixon, wearing a pantsuit. She was a fringe candidate at best. But in the words of California Senator Dianne Feinstein: "No one brings to a ticket what Hillary brings." Ditto that: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Bravo Grandfunk! Somebody fanally said it.

A quick read of this article in the Post and you see none of Hillary's supporters seemed to care a thing about her issues. Just she was a woman. It was a sadly run campaign with her depending on winning based on non issue platform other then being a woman.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801817.html

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Hillary and Obama are bith democrats and support all of the same views. The race is over. It was not personal it was about getting a demarcate elected. The problem with the voters is they take it personal. They support a candidate and not what the candidate stands for or their issues. You heard it with all the women who said. they wanted to see a woman president in their lifetime. They didn't care if she even stood for anything just it be a woman. These people should not get involved in politics, it is not personal.

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I just saw a replay of Face the Nation from this morning which had Howard Wolfson as one of the guests. It was so weird hearing him promoting Obama. I felt like I was in some alternate universe.

Posted by: HonestAbe | June 8, 2008 8:23 PM

mnteng my vote in Nov will be a protest vote and a vote for McCain the man and his experience, not his policies. Since Tx is clearly not in play unlike in Ohio or Fla it will not matter how I vote here in Tx., however I can tell you that many of my Fla family members were deeply upset to have Sen Obama visit their synagogue and suggest that if they refused to vote for him they must be racists. They are Fla Ds who will also be voting for McCain b/c of those kinds of insulting statements. Its getting a little tiresome to hear that garbage.

As to Healthcare I direct you to 2 editorials in the last few weeks one by Krugman and another by Froma Harrop July 8, entitled: "Where is the commitment to Universal Healthcare, are you listening Barack Obama?" which sets out why his program will not reach universal healthcare and why he has deliberately left coverage gaps to accomodate his genY voters. That is noble that he is following Sen Kerry's Kid's First Agenda but that does nothing for my family. His model also follows all of the flaws in Sally Mae which makes no sense.

I am deeply disappointed but expected the state party to accomodate the Obama delegates at the state convention this past week, and put off debating the end of the flawed 2 step process til 2010. Another slap by our state chair at the HC delegates. They never learn.

I am concentrating on our State Senate which currently effects my family and law practice more than the tort reform agenda of Sen Obama. Chris Bell is an honorable warrior and hopefully I can help him retake the Kyle Janeck State Senate seat here in Houstont and start changing our state legislature. For that the Obama supporters here will call me a R traitor.
Unless HC is put on the ticket and put in charge of healthcare reform, which has maybe a 1% chance of happening, I really have no interest in the future of Obama, none, and only hope that our email addresses and phone numbers are not shared with his campaign.

Fix is really full of Himself. He has not earned anything as a reporter but reaps the benefits of others. Case in point the article slash ad for himself. I say as punishment, he should have to participate in commenting. That is real and you can't hide being a corperate sell out for long. If you are only in this for fame and money it will show. He acts like he is hard hitting and not just any typical reporter. But he does not want the responsibility of reporting. There are many stories here that could be written. I know average people have brought some information to his attention in these comments. But he just takes his paycheck and goes home. Why? There is something disturbing about someone who has a blog and ignores it.

Leichtman:

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear that you're still staying involved, albeit on a more local level. I don't know much about Noriega, but he's got to be better than Cornyn, right?

I'm sorry to hear that your vote is going to be an "anti" vote, whether it is due to the posters here or BHO himself. I'd much rather hear that you will vote for McCain because you believe his health care proposals, foreign policy, and economic ideas are the best thing for this country. Which, given your impassioned defense of HRC's proposals, I don't believe is the case.

Ouch! Good one. I to think there will be limited debates this election year. I'm not a fortune teller but do notice Obama's patterns.

Susan, Debates ain't Obama's thing. You sound like Obama has already made up your mind. It's a good thing. Because if it were up to Obama there won't be any debates to be had for us non sheep to be won over on.
Anyone else but Obama 08!

"We can then replace McCain with Sen. Hillary in 2012."

So you want the cockroach QUEEN in, ey?

It's amazing how brainwashed the Clinton sheeple are.

mnteng I have contacted Chris Bell who I know and trust, running for State Senate in my neighborhood. I have been talking with Lampson's new campaign mgr for the last 2 months and asked him why when almost all of his volinteers in the 06 were wkg at the HC Navigation office in March he was still withholding his endorsement. His campaign is well funded and except for a depressed hispanic vote he is in good shape for re election. The fact that he has ignored hus voters and volunteers wishes is bothersome. I have left numerous emails with Sue Schecter Noreiga s Houston campaign mgr and waiting to see if they can raise at least 5 million the threshhold for any serios state race. Chris Bell's State Senate race is the only D race I can get worked up over because I truly believe in his character and decency. Sorry to disappoint you about Obama this may be the first time I have ever voted R in any election in my lifetime. Obama has disappointed me on so many different levels. His only redeaming feature is being a D and that alone will not sway me unless he choses HC. My hunch is that will never happen. He and his supporters only want to use rhe Clintons and if they still lose blame them. If they win I expect them to tell them get lost, go away,what we have constantly heard here.

YAWN.

Can't wait to see the first debate between McCain and Obama!

Once the Clinton Circus fades a bit, the massive differences between the two nominees will be very clear and it will be no contest.

Obama all the way.

On MTP this morning the commentators were saying that Bill was having a harder time dealing with this than Hillary. Bill blames the Obama campaign for painting him as a racist. The next big meeting will be between Obama and Bill.

I just saw a replay of Face the Nation from this morning which had Howard Wolfson as one of the guests. It was so weird hearing him promoting Obama. I felt like I was in some alternate universe.

I think Obama believes beating McCain will be easier than beating the Clintons. Obama had to be so careful not to offend Hillary or her supporters. Also, he and Hillary were not that far apart on issues so the debates focused on minute policy details and political philosophy. With McCain Obama can let it rip and define the stark differences and voters will respond.

Leichtman:

Off the topic ...

Are you planning on working for Noriega? There are a bunch of polls showing he's within striking distance of Cornyn without even having started campaigning.

How's the Lampson race shaping up?

Every time I hear about Obama being some kind of movement. I feel like having a movement. A bowel movement. In Illinois we know all about the "Chicago way". Corruption, is Obama claim to fame in Chicago. Insiders have helped his carear since the beginning. You may not know that his newfound friends in Chicago kept opponents of the ballot so he may run unopposed during his rise. And that he now owes our Governor and local Unions big time. He has even learned a few of our Gov's campain tricks. No debates or limit them to non existent.

Since Obama's resume is so thin and weak we need to be able to evaluate him based on his actions this year in this campaign.

1) He committed FRAUD against his own campaign theme in South Carolina

2) He falsely accused Gerry Ferraro of making "offensive remarks" and then carried on as if she had made horrible racial slurs to his face.

3) He attempted to win over Superdelegates with a racist argument that there would be "riots in the streets" if the superdelegates did not vote for the black man.

4) His conduct on several occassions was disrespectful, for instance going on stage while Hillary was still speaking so the networks would go to him - this was rude conduct

5) He ran his campaign in a racially divisive way - he sought to bully the whites into voting racially, and seeking out and making up FALSE CLAIMS OF RACIAL OFFENSE while seeking to unite the black community behind him along racial lines.

All I can say Obama is you can not have it both ways, you look like a complete hypocrite and a fraud.

We can add to that the OFFENSES AGAINST DEMOCRACY of Obama seeking to prevent the revotes in Michigan and Florida - and instead his supporters wanted those states to count HALF, instead of FULL, if those revotes took place - while that may look smart on the surface, it shows that his tactics are more SOVIET STYLE seeking to limit elections rather than empower people.

See, there are two strains within the BLACK community, one seeks to empower people, the other seeks government programs, hand-outs and is bascially more socialist. Clearly, Obama comes from the higher tax, socialist part of the black community.

The clear headed portion of the black community believes

1) One does not mix the gospel with politics.

2) Empowerment is the key to advancement

3) Working hard, getting ahead, without affirmative action or other hand-outs is the path out of poverty and the bad neighborhoods.

4) This group takes personal responsibility.

5) The empowerment people are personal-based, they do not care about Jim Crow or and they are not seeking compensation for something that happened to their grandparents or great-grandparents.

Obama is a confused man, not a leader.

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And once again the coorupt Clinton Bunch
and especially Sell Out Hillary Clinton have shown us just exactly why we cannot
trust any Democratic National Committee
Political Machine Presidential Candidate
like Hillary Clinton or Loser Barack Obama
to be President and Commander in Chief of
our military and especially so when the US
is fighting two major wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan and the Nancy Pelosi and Harry
Reid Do Nothing Congress all combine to
prove the Extremist Lefty Liberal Democratic Party losers donot deserve to
win the 2008 Election. As the 2008 Democratic Presidential Nomational should
have been settled at the 2008 Democratic'
National Convention in Denver not by blindly voting for real losers like the
Phony Messiah Barack Hussein Obama or Sell
Out Hillary Clinton and the Pelosi,Dean and
Reid Political Machine. No to Obama in 08!

Has he suddenly become a senior senator, an ex governor, a foreign diplomat, a sponsor of major policies in the US Senate since yesterday afternoon?
Is Pres. Carter's failed policy director Brazinsky no longer in that position role?

Has Sen Obama suddenly backed down on doubling cap gains tax rates and has he decided that GenY voters should not be permitted to opt out of any healthcare and game the system and by the way was he just joking when he told Chris Wallace that he would be shocked to learn that he was a major supporter of conprehensive tort reform? Have pigs learned to fly since yesterday?

so many of the comments left on here are vicious toward anyone who supported Obama, while commenting about how vicious Obama supporters are. I wish you would actually READ the words written before you attack.

anonymous says he is god, a movement, etc. that I can't stop. In jest? Why would you think any of us would want to 'join a movement'
Can someone please explain how this state Senator who avoided every tough vote in the Ill Senate and US Senate is suddenly qualified to be POTUS? Has he suddenly become a snior senator, an ex governor, a foreign diplomat, a sponsor of major policies in the US Senate since yesterday afternoon? Us Carter's failed policy director Brazinsky no later in that position. Has his calling Fla Jewish voters racist suddenly ended? Has something changed about Sen Obama in the last 24 hrs that we all missed? You are right when you post that Sen Obama will win without the support of the 18 million Clinton voters. I can t wait to see how that works out for you in the fall. By the way did I miss Michelle telling Sen Obama that she would be OK with HC on the ticket since yesterday since we all know she is calling the shots for VP?

Of course we all know according to Bob at least that the media favored HC and that JFK was a lightweight after a mere 13 years in Congress.

Repukes also had a big hand in screwing Florida, Michigan. Two states in which Obama used rules to his advantage great guy. They set it up the Democratic voters and he takes advantage to win. I agree things will be diffrent in november.

Attention all pissed-off Clintonites:

You can waste your time arguing with Obamabots or you can take action. Come join us!

http://blog.pumapac.org

Obamabots, this is a moderated site, so don't waste your time.

Yea. in mostly Rep cucaus states with a fraction of the people and activists crammed in tiny rooms. Whole states vote in november no intimidation allowed ya goof.

To some people he is! White people set up the rules and he still beat them. First Miracle. You can't stop this or him.

Dangerous. To say OBAMA is a god. More like a "false prophet."

We know the "deal" the DNC made.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/08/barack-obama-we-know-the-deal/

Leichtman Obama does not need those fools anyway. Why do think he is were he is. It's his time. You can't stop him now. He is a movement or haven't you heard. Maybe even a god!

KY, Jimboy.pcor must all be a part of team Obama's unification message. Its amazing that no matter how gracious HC is, the Obama supporters will continue to throw out ugly rants against her and her supporters. Personally I will not even consider voting for him until he tells his juvenile supporters to shut up. I have been bombarded by every HC suuport site imaginable with emails since Sat. imploring mr to support him I chuckle when I read those emails and then come here to remind me of the vitriol behind the Obama campaign. It convinces me that HC supporters are smart to stay as far far away from the Obama campaign as possible. No one deserves to be exposed to that kind of vitriol. It will be curious if that continues post convention.

MY DREAM LINES FROM OBAMA
As we pursue change in America, let us start by changing from the old way of condoning internal partisanship towards the new way of harnessing diversity towards partnership. Let us work for change not by breaking from the past but by blending what's brilliant in it to what's transformational in the future. Let us effect change not with fear and suspicion but with confidence and reconciliation. Let change start with us Democrats and America will follow. And so today, I set the tone for inclusive change and real unity in my choice for vice president -- Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I am not here to vent my anger because Hillary lost. As a Democrat, I am here to prevent the cockroach infestation that has infested the Democratic party and all media from spreading to the White House; to hopefully convince my fellow Dem's to clean up our party, so we and our future generation can proudly vote a Democrat into the White House again; and finally to put Hillary in the White House in 2012. To do this, we should PRUDENTLY vote out Kerry, Waxman, Wexler, Pat Lahey, and Ms. Pelosi; and finally, to vote McCain even though he is also a cockroach. Once we get rid of Obama, it will be 1 down and 1 more to go. We can then replace McCain with Sen. Hillary in 2012. But if we vote Obama, then we will then have 2 cockroaches (McCain and Obama) to deal with; and we will not be able to place Sen. H. in the White House till 2016. This is the only way we can restore morals to our party.

'I believe the media was more biased towards Hillary recently'

obviosly Bob you have not heard the daily rants by Olberman, Matthews or Mikka when you post such silly comments.

Interesting after months of HC supporter bashing we see them now sucking up thinking we will forget those ugly comments and constant references to racism. Don't hold your breath. Nothing has changed. Sen Obama is still devisive and his 2 years in the Senate makes him no more qualified then he was a week ago. His trip to Fla voters 10 days ago to label them as racists shows he still doesn t get it. Nothing has changed other than proof how desperately he need HC's 18 million votes in the fall.

It is not about the past, it is about the future. If you all, including the Republican party want to cling to the past ways that have led to a government that is despised by the people then go ahead and continue to spout all that anger and visciousness. The rest of us hope that the election of Obama and like minded others will lead to a change in direction in this country. Since 70% of Americans dont like the direction we are headed why do you persist in pushing all this anger and division.

The primaries are over. The voter spoke, Obama won fair and square and Hillary lost. Its time now for contemplation and scrutiny of the positions of both McCain and Obama so as to determine what kind of country we are going to have. All this I am going to vote for McCain cuz Hillary is not the nominee is foolish beyond words. Why not admit you would vote for the devil just to make ;your selfish, selfinterested point.

We need discussion about the policies that are going to affect our lives and less of this mudslinging. You get what you pay for, and I personally dont want to have my country spoiled by petulant people who think only of their emotional neediness.,

Obama's nomination is TAINTED by Obama's actions seeking to prevent a revote in Michigan and Florida.

Obama's nomination is TAINTED by Obama's running of a racial campaign in South Carolina which made his campaign theme which was supposed to be post-racial a complete FRAUD.

Obama's nomination is TAINTED because of Obama's racist approach to the Superdelegates AND the failure of the Superdelegates to evaluate the strength of the two candidates, instead subtituting essentially racist movitation into the last lospided 230 - 40 Superdelegate votes.

Obama also made a mockery of Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy.

Obama's nomination rests on 48 states and some half votes - the rest of the votes they believed they had to hold back because they were afraid they would be enough for Hillary to win the nomination.

Does that makes sense?

Why should a major party nominee seek to be the nominee of only 48 states - AND then press through a fantasy plan of the votes in Michigan using fake numbers?

Sorry, Obama is THE MINORITY candidate - a minority of votes too.

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clinton certainly was ambiguous in her speech. clinton never once mentioned mccain or the consequences of a mccain presidency.

it was not long ago when clinton stated explicitly that mccain was more suited for the presidency than obama. according to clinton all obama had ever done was "give a speech".

in my opinion, clinton had an obligation to undo the damage she created during the primaries. on too many occasions clinton implied mccain was more qualified for the oval office than obama.

equally surprising about clinton's address was that the pundits (including you, chris) never seemed to notice this glaring omission.

by not stating anything negative about mccain clinton only went half way in her endorsement of obama. could 2012 be the reason?

So here is that lying sell out phony loser
Hillary Clinton's so-called "Legacy"after
Clinton sold out to that False Messiah,
total phony,arrogant,smirking,cocaine snorter,elitist,liberal loser empty suit
Barack Hussein Obama,and it's called,
"Hillary Clinton the Gutless Sell Out"
as Hillary Clinton has lost millions of
Independents like myself and even millions
of her own Democrats who donot want that
empty suit loser Barack Hussein Obama and
his racist wife Michelle Obama in the
White House under any circumstances. Your
doing a heck of a job here Sell Out Hillary. Just say No to Barack Obama.

One of the most prepared , and talented leaders in our life time has just been forced out from the race.

The corrupted media in this country just claimed another victim

People

"Universal" and "Free" are two different words.

Go look it up in the dictionary

Since Obama's resume is so thin and weak we need to be able to evaluate him based on his actions this year in this campaign.

1) He committed FRAUD against his own campaign theme in South Carolina

2) He falsely accused Gerry Ferraro of making "offensive remarks" and then carried on as if she had made horrible racial slurs to his face.

3) He attempted to win over Superdelegates with a racist argument that there would be "riots in the streets" if the superdelegates did not vote for the black man.

4) His conduct on several occassions was disrespectful, for instance going on stage while Hillary was still speaking so the networks would go to him - this was rude conduct

5) He ran his campaign in a racially divisive way - he sought to bully the whites into voting racially, and seeking out and making up FALSE CLAIMS OF RACIAL OFFENSE while seeking to unite the black community behind him along racial lines.

All I can say Obama is you can not have it both ways, you look like a complete hypocrite and a fraud.

We can add to that the OFFENSES AGAINST DEMOCRACY of Obama seeking to prevent the revotes in Michigan and Florida - and instead his supporters wanted those states to count HALF, instead of FULL, if those revotes took place - while that may look smart on the surface, it shows that his tactics are more SOVIET STYLE seeking to limit elections rather than empower people.

See, there are two strains within the BLACK community, one seeks to empower people, the other seeks government programs, hand-outs and is bascially more socialist. Clearly, Obama comes from the higher tax, socialist part of the black community.

The clear headed portion of the black community believes

1) One does not mix the gospel with politics.

2) Empowerment is the key to advancement

3) Working hard, getting ahead, without affirmative action or other hand-outs is the path out of poverty and the bad neighborhoods.

4) This group takes personal responsibility.

5) The empowerment people are personal-based, they do not care about Jim Crow or and they are not seeking compensation for something that happened to their grandparents or great-grandparents.

Obama is a confused man, not a leader.

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"I doubt that McCain will choose an anti-abortion Supreme Court judge if he has to. Remember he has 2 or 3 young daughters."

So does the current president. That didn't stop him.

WillytheKorn

I believe people should stop pretending they are "offended" - your post mentions "deeply offensive" things that were said - another level higher.

well

What makes our democracy strong is tolerance - of which the democrats have little.

The democrats appear to have this reasoning: if someone says something offensive, they should be villified and shunned, however crack addicts should have reduced sentences.

The democrats want to be easy on everyone except the people they choose to label with "offensive remarks" To be honest I am offended because this entire exercise is counter to the First Amendment and tolerance of a range of ideas.

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As a Clinton supporter I am not dwelling on the past. I am looking to the future. If Obama were elected this country would be imperiled due to his ham-handed naivete' in dealing with foreign and domestic matters in which he has no experience or creibility.

Can't vote for Obama- my first Republican presidential vote since 1980 will happen in November.

Gary K.

I am not happy with the way you spoke to the other poster - it is inappropriate to belittle another poster by calling him a 4th grader or calling him kid or kiddo.

So Gary, stop bothering other posters.

If you have a real disagreement, you can say it nicely without being mean.

I guess democrats are mean by nature.

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Gary K

Leave Nobama alone - that is a clever name and I think he should keep on using it.

Also, Obama took on the Change slogan - which was Bill Clinton's 92 campaign theme.

Obama is so pathetic that he cant even come up with his own slogan, he has to take Bill Clintons.

so stop bothering other posters

Think of something else to write on the board.

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To the "Nobama," person:

Sloganeering is for weak-minded individuals who find presenting a cohesive argument too difficult. Let me explain something to you kid. Your comments and the lack of logic therein are the caliber I'd expect of a 4th grader. I wish I had the time to explain the incongruence of each quasi-point, but its finals season and I have too many papers to grade.

But, I'll leave you with something to consider, though:

1) How was Hillary going to raise enough revenue to supporter her universal health care proposal? And you think cutting spending will suffices, you are dumber than I thought.

2) Your small list of complains against Obama look like quintessential Hannity and Limbaugh talking points; even if you aren't a Republican, you certainly sound like one.

3) The expiration of the Bush tax cuts are de facto tax hikes. Obama has made no insinuation (that I know of) beyond ending letting them expire thus raising rates on the highest wage earners. Yet, you hypocritically rail against Obama for allowing these rates to go back to the pre-2002 levels, yet simultaneously praise Congress and Hillary for promising to do just that. Bias much?

Kiddo, you are a walking, talking contradiction. And even if you are not registered, you are a Republican in sheep's clothing. Hillary would be ashamed to have you as a supporter.

BTW, I never voted for Obama or Clinton; I voted for Edwards.

Hillary's a liar and a crook. I didn't think much about her until seeing her in this campaign. Her and her husband deserve the dust bin of history. A women should be President. Just not her.

Tom, I already said both candidates (and their campaigns and supporters) have said things that were deeply offensive to the other. If you choose to believe that was true only of Obama and his minions, you're entitled to, but with respect I think you're deluding yourself.

And for the record, I have listened to many Clinton supporters. I am currently listening to you.

As for the unparalleled attacks against a candidate, you have no further to go back than 2004 to see the hatchet job the Republicans did on Kerry, or 2000 to see the hatchet job Bush did on McCain. Those weren't very pretty, either.

As for selling racist images, how about the t-shirts with Curious George the monkey on them reading "Obama '08"? Is that racist enough for you? You're right about the media, too. Rush Limbaugh thought them rather funny.

If you think this primary was rough, just you wait until the Republicans start their routine with the 527s and swiftboating and all the rest. They have planned since the beginning to make this primary look like the Summer of Love, no matter who the candidate turned out to be.

All the same, I respect your views and respect even more that you will vote for Obama in spite of them.

Tom, I already said both candidates (and their campaigns and supporters) have said things that were deeply offensive to the other. If you choose to believe that was true only of Obama and his minions, you're entitled to, but with respect I think you're deluding yourself.

And for the record, I have listened to many Clinton supporters. I am currently listening to you.

As for the unparalleled attacks against a candidate, you have no further to go back than 2004 to see the hatchet job the Republicans did on Kerry, or 2000 to see the hatchet job Bush did on McCain. Those weren't very pretty, either.

As for selling racist images, how about the t-shirts with Curious George the monkey on them reading "Obama '08"? Is that racist enough for you? You're right about the media, too. Rush Limbaugh thought them rather funny.

If you think this primary was rough, just you wait until the Republicans start their routine with the 527s and swiftboating and all the rest. They have planned since the beginning to make this primary look like the Summer of Love, no matter who the candidate turned out to be.

All the same, I respect your views and respect even more that you will vote for Obama in spite of them.

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GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO OBAMA, NO OBAMA, NO OBAMA, NO OBAMA!!!!

I doubt that McCain will choose an anti-abortion Supreme Court judge if he has to. Remember he has 2 or 3 young daughters. Also, I thing until recently he had been pro-abortion.

With all due respect, Willy, I wasn't trying to teach you anything about grief. (I'd rather rely on satire than a purely didactic approach.)

Listen, man, my point is that grief is personal. When I held my college friend, I didn't offer platitudes. I knew enough about white privilege to keep my mouth shut and listen and support her. Now, by your own admission, you are not a Clinton supporter. So I think you need to find someone who is and listen to them.

You know, one key difference between Clinton and the Obama/Jackson candidacy: Obama and Jackson didn't have vendors hawking racist images of them chomping down on watermellon. Clinton has undergone excruciatingly blatant attacks on her character and personhood. It's unparalleled that a candidate - a CANDIDATE - for president would be so wickedly derided. If anyone dared to SELL racist images of Obama at the five and dime, they would pay dearly. But the media's response? "Isn't that funny?!"

So, give Clinton supporters some room. I for one am NOT running over to McCain. God, I loathe the Republicans. But Obama will have to work hard to win my respect. I doubt he'll be able to do so in time for the election, but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him. Call me a "Democrat-by-attrition".

To Christina & flyfisher,

Both of you said you donated to help Sen.Clinton retire her debt. If so, you have my serious respect. Good for you to back up your support for Hillary with financial action. Only hope that other Clinton supporters follow your example and show her their gratitude for a strong campaign.

(No sarcasm intended... I'm a Canadian who admires Obama but respects Hillary Clinton.)

You may not believe this but a lot of people are going to miss old George when he is gone.All of his funny 'Bushisms',the man was always up,always smiling.

Too true! But God bless Youtube - we can watch him over and over again. I will miss his malpropisms.

But just because we've rejeceted the putative Clinton Dynasty doesn't mean we have to reject the Bush Dynasty. Imagine, Jeb in 12, and George the 3rd in 20. Yep, now that we've trashed Hillary, the Bushies are planning their "revival."

Don't laugh! I really do think Jeb will run in 12.

"vote for John McCain, a patriot that loves America!"

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." - Dr. Johnson

Tom wrote:

"Where were you in 88? Where were you when I held my housemate grieving over Jackson's second loss at a presidential bid and his eventual withdrawal from the race (which wasn't until late in the primary, as I recall)?"

I was there Tom. I came of voting age in 1968, and watched the candidate I supported get assassinated at the moment of his greatest victory. I revered Martin Luther King and watched HIM get assassinated the same year. I voted against Proposition 13 in 1978 and have had to watch as its passage trashed what at one time was the best public K-12 education system in the country. I've been a liberal Democrat for all the years since 1968, and have had to endure Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and the Bushies. With all respect, you don't have a single damn thing to teach me about grief.

The point of my comment was simple enough. What has happened has happened. I did not support Senator Clinton in the primary but I would have voted for her, worked for her, contributed to her campaign, because she is incomparably better than John McCain, and so is Senator Obama.

Have all the grief you want folks. I can feel your pain, because I've been there often enough. But we just don't have thee luxury of taking our marbles and going home because it didn't turn out the way we wanted. As Senator Clinton pointed out herself, in the last 40 years the Republicans have held the White House for 28 of them. America has not benefited from this.

I repeat, it's time to get to work!!

Hillary, NOONE can change the fact that you have written new history regardless what happens. That is a fact. You could run again. It's not the end of the world. Right now, we DO need to focus our energy on what is at stake here. Thank you for not dropping out of the race earlier. Most importantly, thank you for your backing. We're on the same team, for the same causes. Lets do it!

You may not believe this but a lot of people are going to miss old George when he is gone.All of his funny 'Bushisms',the man was always up,always smiling.Where else are we going to find a President whose biggest kick in life is riding a bicycle on a an old dirt path.Obama will overwhelm us with his heaviness and McCain is an absolute fossil and if anyone thinks that all of our problems will disappear with the departure of old George,they better think again.

Just another ukulele (jumping flea) who wants to join "GD America" crowd.

Shame on you.

Posted by: | June 7, 2008 7:15 PM

Whatever your name is, If I am the flea, YOU must be the rabied dog and I am definitely happy to be free of you. Shame on you for posting such a rediculous comment without a name, what a coward.

All right, children. Have you all finished venting your spleen yet? I certainly hope so, because it's time to get to work and elect a Democrat to the Presidency. And many more Democrats to Congress.

Dude!

Where were you in 88? Where were you when I held my housemate grieving over Jackson's second loss at a presidential bid and his eventual withdrawal from the race (which wasn't until late in the primary, as I recall)?

The fact is, black folks didn't "get over" that loss in 88, though many, many continued to support the Party. Women and men who feel justifiably hurt by the nastiness of this campaign (by 1. the Media, 2. Obama headquarters, 3. the DNC and its arcane rules) are not going to "get over" it either. I imagine most will begrudingly cast a vote for Obama. But, listen, you can't sweep grief under the rug. There are "steps" to the process. Women have lost their best hope for the presidency so far and it will take time. And remember, Clinton is a symbolic figure in this campaign. She wasn't just running for herself but for millions of women. Let's give the grief its due.

Who should I vote for? Should I vote for Obama who wants to sacrifice many American lives so we can fight Israel's war against Iran or McCain who wants to sacrifice American lives so we can afford cheap oil? Someone sure have their priority mixed up.

All right, children. Have you all finished venting your spleen yet? I certainly hope so, because it's time to get to work and elect a Democrat to the Presidency. And many more Democrats to Congress.

The fact is both Clinton and Obama were brave and committed enough to do something that has never been done before. Clinton and Obama were both targets of hate and derision at the hands of ignorant vicious yahoos who would do America a big favor by going out and playing on the freeway. (Come to Southern California, ignorant vicious yahoos! We have MANY freeways for you!!)

The fact is that both Obama and Clinton said things about the other which were not especially "nice". This is part of political competition. If their supporters can't handle that, they ought to consider getting out of politics. Neither Clinton nor Obama got to where they are now by being thin-skinned.

Senator Clinton understands all this, even if some of her supporters do not. Senator Clinton knows that an Obama Presidency will be far better for America -- AND for the issues she cares about -- than a McCain Presidency, and she has the class to do what was needed to help make an Obama Presidency happen.

Clinton supporters, the decision has been made, and your candidate has asked you to work for an Obama victory. If you don't, you will not be honoring her efforts on your behalf over the last 16 months.

Obama supporters, your candidate will not win without the wholehearted support of those that voted for Clinton. If you don't stop your sniping and insults and gloating, you will not be honoring his efforts on your behalf over the last 16 months.

This is politics, children. You don't HAVE to like each other. You just have to work together to achieve your goals.

Let's give up the bullsh*t now and get to work!

Hillary's speech right there tells you what went wrong in her campaign. She should have made more hopeful & inclusive speeches like this, and not the alienating divisive ones which were meant to shore up her so-called core constituents.

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I know exactly what you mean. I even told Hillary, "Now remember, you're a lady, so be sure to talk pretty and keep everybody happy. Men like it when you boost their self-esteem. I know, I know. You want to discuss policy, and your health care plan, and your desire to end the war in Iraq. That's all well and good but it's not what the people want to hear. They want someone who can smile ... a lot (kind of like the folks on the Weather Channel). They want you to bake 'em cookies and tell 'em stories and make promises you can't keep. In other words, try not to act too much like yourself. I believe there's a script out there that should teach you how to stifle every impulse you have, and acquiesce to the public's desire for a soft-spoken and demur lady candidate."

But, you know what...she didn't listen to me.

5. I'd love to see Obama offer a Supreme Court seat to Hillary and she accept it. It's time to see a really strong liberal voice there. Can you see her take on Scalia, etc. What a legacy she could leave.

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This is so insulting! She doesn't need any damn consolation prize or Mr. Obama's pity. What a patronizing, despicable comment! My God, how I wish Obama had lost and some poor, white soul wrote in, saying: "Golly! I feel kind of bad for old Obama. Wouldn't it be swell for President Clinton to offer him a seat on the Supreme Court? Geez, there aren't many of those black folks there anymore, so he may be just the ticket. And think of the sparks between him and Clarence Thomas. It'll be so much fun to objectify a losing candidate for our own sadistic pleasure. HA HA, HE HE!

5. I'd love to see Obama offer a Supreme Court seat to Hillary and she accept it. It's time to see a really strong liberal voice there. Can you see her take on Scalia, etc. What a legacy she could leave.

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This is so insulting! She doesn' need any damn consolation prize or Mr. Obama's pity. What a patronizing, despicable comment! My God, how I wish Obama had lost and some poor, white soul wrote in, saying: "Golly! I feel kind of bad for old Obama. Wouldn't it be swell for President Clinton to offer him a seat on the Supreme Court? Geez, there aren't many of those black folks there anymore, so he may be just the ticket. And think of the sparks between him and Clarence Thomas. It'll be so much fun to objectify a losing candidate for our own sadistic pleasure. HA HA, HE HE!

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Venkat,

You could not be more spot on. I guess Obama's supporters think bashing Clinton unites the Democratic party.

But I suspect Obama will lose the election even with my vote.

When is President Obama going to get it?! Americans are sick and tired of his corrupt administration, grounded in four years of failed leadership and non-stop lies. He should have listened to the people telling him to drop out of the race after his humiliating defeat in Iowa. But his arrogance is unabated. He thinks that because he holds the presidency he somehow has the right to assume a second term. Think again! Americans are disgusted by this self-absorbed, narcissistic, annoyingly self-righteous "b**ch" (substitute appropriate racial term) who thinks because he's a black man he can run this country. No sir, Democrats have wised up, Mr. Obama.

Every four years or so, we turn on our fellow Democrats and eat them alive. And, Mr. Obama, it's your turn. The Republicans are right. We have no scruples just an insatiable appetite for novelty. We decry discrimination except when we practice it ourselves.

Thanks to the lovely posts on this site for providing most(though not all) of the adjectives used in this note. God, aren't you just proud of the Democratic party?! What a joke we've become. Ladies and Gentlemen, you have my blessing to vote for McCain.

Hillary's speech right there tells you what went wrong in her campaign. She should have made more hopeful & inclusive speeches like this, and not the alienating divisive ones which were meant to shore up her so-called core constituents. Anyone who can make such a captivating speech, is still going to play a very high profile and important role in years to come, and it would be great to see her as running mate, using the same powerful rhetoric heading into November. Glass ceiling?? What glass ceiling. She didn't lose this race because of her gender. She got more votes than anyone except for Obama. He happened to play the better cards that's all and in hindsight she could have played a better hand. But she says focusing on lost opportunities of the past is wasting time going forward, and that is telling. Also, she says if you're knocked down, you get straight back up. That's why she'll be a great running mate and who knows whatever role she plays that inspires hundreds of millions around the world, with such excellent philosophy.

Heard a women, who called herself a Clinton Democrat, expound on how she wouldn't vote for Obama. However, she twice used the limbaughesgue phrase, Democrat Party, sounds like a typical Republican dirty trick.

Just a few thoughts:

1. I'm sure the vast majority of Obama supporters, voted for Obama not against Hilary.
2. I'm sure the vast majority of Hillary supporters, voted for Hillary not against Obama.
3. If you voted for Hillary and Obama and won't vote for Obama in the general election, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot now because if John McCain wins women's rights will be set back twenty years. How many Scalias can McCain appoint to the Supreme Court in the next 4 years? That's just for starters.
4. Some say that Obama is not experienced enough to be in President. The Democratic Primary was Hillary's to lose, and she lost it. Obama had enough experience to put together a team together that came from behind with a grass roots winning campaign. I'd say that's a person with experience and leadership.
5. I'd love to see Obama offer a Supreme Court seat to Hillary and she accept it. It's time to see a really strong liberal voice there. Can you see her take on Scalia, etc. What a legacy she could leave.

I see much people mentioning polls. I have been monitoring these polls for this entire race on the Internet. Almost all of them was wrong. For some reason, the few that was wright was the ones that showed Hillary ahead by big margin. I might be wrong, but most major polls used to be close to actual results in past few election. However, in this election most was much off actual. Point is that I would not put much faith into these polls, and something seems fishy about this Democratic primary results.

Clinton's speech was respectful and encouraging. But for women to advance in US politics, her defeat tells us that radical change is the only way to go. We need a new fervor and spirit to trample the patriarchal strangle hold. Men like Obama will continually vanquish women and call 'em "sweetie" only to advance a pattently sexist and discriminatory agenda. Obama and his ilk have no desire to reach out to the millions of women who supported Clinton, so women must take it upon themselves to fight. If they don't resist, they will succumb to the kind of America Obama believes in: a hegemonic dynasty that systematically excludes women from achieving their full potential. He and others will stop at nothing to destroy the character of women, until they are reduced to nothing. Now, women of all races must come together to stop him from carrying this any further.

Now, if that sounds ludicrous to you, substitute an appropriate racial category and compare it to the rage expressed by so many women in this country. Bombast aside, you (yes, you, Chris Matthews) might begin to understand the betrayal women (and some men) are feeling today and their seething anger over the treatment Senator Clinton received in this campaign. And even if you don't understand, the rage will still be there.

Vote for Obama if you want the following:

-- Intimidation politics
-- White, White people in cages
-- No breaks for anyone non Obama
-- Labeling America racist to explain why some do not agree with Obama

Clinton's image is dinged only because of the machinations of the Obama camp in the nastiest race I've ever seen. As far as I'm concerned, it's all over. The Obama/McCain matchup will be a sleeper,a real bore; the best candidate just bowed out. So, duke it out, boys. Have a ball. You're both ill-suited to the position to which you now aspire. But that XY chromosone combination is working wonders for you.

I'm voting for anybody but Obama! This is a scary place with him in it.

Betty America is cleansing itself! Obama's kind of change maybe scary at first but he has the right views on race. They are a long time in coming. Signing off.

Hillary thinks that she has achieved something by staying in the race. Her speech is full of self praise. People are forgetting that every other candidate who ran for the democratic nomination had an uphill battle. She was the only one who went up the hill on a ski lift (holding onto Bill's coattails) and slid all the way down with all kinds of stumblings on the way. Now she thinks she achieved something. Geraldine Ferraro already broke the female glass barrier for Hillary to run. We are essentially looking at an ego maniacal Hillary still trying to claim victory over Obama. She definitely leads every other presidential candidate ever run in the largest debt in a primary category. Everybody knoew she was going to lose a few months ago. She was in debt at that time and she racked up more debt. That is what she accomplished by staying in the race.

There is a fture for America because the Clinton's have been brushed aside now.

That is such bull! Obam has us all feeling racist if we don't vote for him. Whether it is intended or not is not going to work on America. He has his own race issues! Jerk

Posted by: Bob, DC | June 7, 2008 9:32 PM
"Obama will have no trouble beating John McCain in November."

Doubtful. It's become obvious that Obama was essentially "given" the candidacy before he even started to run. No one is going to be able to buy him the Presidency.

Posted by: D.B. | June 7, 2008 10:11 PM

Obama has already won. Those people that are guilty and do not want to continue being racist will do the right thing come november.

It was not a glass ceiling. Quit using feminism to cover a poor campaign.

Posted by: Bob, DC | June 7, 2008 9:32 PM
"Obama will have no trouble beating John McCain in November."

Doubtful. It's become obvious that Obama was essentially "given" the candidacy before he even started to run. No one is going to be able to buy him the Presidency.

Nyguy please be quiet. Obama will deal with the troublemakers. I'm sure of it. You all had your chance to stop him. It's over you lost. Hail King Obama.

What about the Mcain bashing that sounds Demo. I say there is much on both sides. So what!

Posted by: nyguy | June 7, 2008 9:51 PM

it has become crystal clear to me that a large percentage of the comments on this and other blogs are being written by people intent on making mischief, either to help the Republicans or to serve some twisted agenda of their own -- I think Democrats need to take everything with a grain of salt and not draw conclusions based on any post or even group of posts -- some of these people are posting multiple times, I am sure this could be shown using the right textual analytic tools -- let's not be suckered by the hateful any more! for example, does anyone know who the two young men were who hollered "iron my shirt" at Hillary in New Hampshire? I would bet anything they weren't Obama supporters, more likely Dartmouth Republican Club troublemakers

Vote for Obama if you want the following:

-- Intimidation politics
-- White, White people in cages
-- No breaks for anyone non Obama
-- Labeling America racist to explain why some do not agree with Obama

Posted by: Dilbert | June 7, 2008 9:27 PM

Dilbert
I was laughing until I really started to believe it could happen. Makes you think!

Obama will have no trouble beating John McCain in November. Obama is already beating McCain in most polls of most of the critical states and should get a nice boost now that Hillary is out. The GOP is toast in Nov -- it is a shame many of the bitter turncoat Hillary supporters wont be able to join us in the victory celebrations.

To those who are taking cheer from what they see as a Democratic Party in disarray, as a minister and counselor I can tell you from personal experience that what I see is a healthy (if sometimes nasty) hashing out of family divisions.

With just a modicum of good will, it will heal and be even healthier.

The Republicans, on the other hand, simply try to pretend their divisions aren't real.

For families, parties (and nations) that latter way leads straight to hell.

As proof of what I'm saying please take note that Sen. Obama's website has set up a page for his supporters to send positive messages of their appreciation for all of the things that Sen. Clinton fights for and represents. I have already sent my message of support to her as one small gesture of good will that I am absolutely certain will, in time, lead to that healing.

For any other Obama supporters who are interested in sending such a message to Sen. Clinton, the webpage is:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/thankyouHRC?source=feature_thankyou?source=feature_thankyou

Vote for McCain if you want the following:

-- 100 years in Iraq
-- Bomb, bomb Iran
-- tax breaks for the wealthy
-- Overturn Roe v wade

Posted by: Bob, DC | June 7, 2008 9:07 PM

I thought I spoof this fearmongering with an equal possiblility.

Vote for Obama if you want the following:

-- Intimidation politics
-- White, White people in cages
-- No breaks for anyone non Obama
-- Labeling America racist to explain why some do not agree with Obama