Can't you people see that this terrorist talk is just to makes look away from the real problems going on in the world? McCain and Obama are just puppets. The shadow government is running the world. The Bilderbergs are helping to kill all of us.

Haven't you noticed the shortage in food supplies around the world? This DOES include the USA.

Time for those that really love the USA and Freedom to wakeup.

So,not to worry as Preacher Barack Obama
will make another lofty soaring speech on
the Evils of Terrorism and his good buddy
fellow Muslim Terrorist Osama bin Laden
and all of Al_Qeada will instantly preach
Obama's Peace and Love and come bearing
flowers and gifts for everyone in the US!
..When Pigs Fly You Obamafools! ..Vote
Republican and Help Elect Sen John McCain
President so we can finally get or kill
Osama bin Laden not let bin Laden off on
some vague legal techinicality the way that
his fellow Muslim Barack Hussein Obama would do so! Say NOBAMA in 2008!

"I think he most certainly meant to say 57 states and territories. If it had been McCain, the Lib fools on this board would have never let it go."

No, he was talking about the states he had visited. All except Montana, Alaska, and Hawaii. Look it up on youtube. I thought he was talking about territories until I saw the actual clip

WHY HAVEN'T MCCAIN SPOKE UP ABOUT THIS MATTER? OBAMA HAS DEFEND HIMSELF AND MCCAIN HASN'T SAID A WORD. THATS BECAUSE MCCAIN DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RULE OF LAW. MCCAIN IS A FRAUD.

IF I WAS ANY OF YOU, I WOULDN'T TRUST MCCAIN WHO AGREE'S WITH BUSH ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. MCCAIN HASN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE ISSUE'S AND IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE HE CAN REMEMBER IT AND MAKE A FOOL OF HIMSELF TRYING TO READ IT. THE TRUTH IS OBAMA KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T. THEN HE SENDS RUDY OUT THERE TO DEFEND HIM AND RUDY HAS NO FOREIGN EXPERIENCE OR BACKROUND AT ALL. MCCAIN IS A FRAUD. OBAMA HAS BEEN COMEMNTING ON THIS ISSUE FOR 2 DAYS AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED YET. MCCAIN IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET FOR RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS JUST LIKE BUSH. NO MCSAME.

IF I WAS ANY OF YOU, I WOULDN'T TRUST MCCAIN WHO AGREE'S WITH BUSH ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. MCCAIN HASN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE ISSUE'S AND IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE HE CAN REMEMBER IT AND MAKE A FOOL OF HIMSELF TRYING TO READ IT. THE TRUTH IS OBAMA KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T. THEN HE SENDS RUDY OUT THERE TO DEFEND HIM AND RUDY HAS NO FOREIGN EXPERIENCE OR BACKROUND AT ALL. MCCAIN IS A FRAUD. OBAMA HAS BEEN COMEMNTING ON THIS ISSUE FOR 2 DAYS AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED YET. MCCAIN IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET FOR RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS JUST LIKE BUSH. NO MCSAME.

IF I WAS ANY OF YOU, I WOULDN'T TRUST MCCAIN WHO AGREE'S WITH BUSH ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. MCCAIN HASN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE ISSUE'S AND IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE HE CAN REMEMBER IT AND MAKE A FOOL OF HIMSELF TRYING TO READ IT. THE TRUTH IS OBAMA KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T. THEN HE SENDS RUDY OUT THERE TO DEFEND HIM AND RUDY HAS NO FOREIGN EXPERIENCE OR BACKROUND AT ALL. MCCAIN IS A FRAUD. OBAMA HAS BEEN COMEMNTING ON THIS ISSUE FOR 2 DAYS AND MCCAIN HASN'T COMMENTED YET. MCCAIN IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET FOR RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS JUST LIKE BUSH. NO MCSAME.

oh sandy, please do not make us wait until october for the whitey-gate on youtube. can't you just do a re-enactment for us so we can all sleep tonight. the suspense is killing me.

Nadeem Zakaria Nice attempt to portray yourself as a Muslim. I would venture to guess that you saw that last name on CNN (Fareed Zakaria)and figured he looked Muslim. Your posts are totally transparent; let's try David Duke, which is much closer to your political and religious leaning.

Obama is such a deceptive liar. Period. When the DNC was attacking Cindy McCain over the tax returns, Obama's allies at the DNC backed the attacks.

However NOW Obama is full of it - he now says spouses are out of bounds.

The truth is Obama wants one rule for McCain and one rule for Obama - affirmative action for spouses now - it is OK to attack McCain's wife but not Obama's

Can anyone else here see the hypocrisy???

Obama is a joke. The American people are slowly realizing that. Obama is thin-skinned, an empty suit, he couldn't get a job at a big corporation and he has maxed out every affirmative action program he can find. It is sickening.

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Obama is such a deceptive liar. Period. When the DNC was attacking Cindy McCain over the tax returns, Obama's allies at the DNC backed the attacks.

However NOW Obama is full of it - he now says spouses are out of bounds.

The truth is Obama wants one rule for McCain and one rule for Obama - affirmative action for spouses now - it is OK to attack McCain's wife but not Obama's

Can anyone else here see the hypocrisy???

Obama is a joke. The American people are slowly realizing that. Obama is thin-skinned, an empty suit, he couldn't get a job at a big corporation and he has maxed out every affirmative action program he can find. It is sickening.

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Dianne72 YOU are a right-wing rag

This is off topic, but I wanted to post that today Obama leads in the polls above McCain in regards to:

1. Florida

2. Pennsylvania

3. Ohio

Good news!

So here let me make your choice very simple

Obama = Surrender to Osama bin Laden

McCain = Catches Osama bin Laden

McCain = Hero

Obama = Zero

There wasn't that easy for you? NOBAMA!

"what power, what mastery, what control

what an arrogant idiot."

zoukie I love it when you thrust that big chest out and strut your stuff!

Sandy - NBC News did an extensive investigation of the claim that Michelle Obama used the term "whitey" and found that there was not just no recording, there is no witnesses to it ever having happened. They conclude that it is actually a part of a smear campaign by far right fringe elements. So... please desist. It isn't going to work here.

I do not want my fellow Muslims seated behind me. Off with their heads!

If anyone asks questions, tell them:

a - my staff did it
b - this is a distraction
c - that wasn't the same person I once knew

DETROIT - A young Muslim woman said she and another woman were refused seats directly behind Barack Obama -- and in front of TV cameras -- at a Detroit rally because they wear head scarfs

this is the new politics? even the clintons were not this calculating. I smell landslide defeat for this fake.

I think he most certainly meant to say 57 states and territories. If it had been McCain, the Lib fools on this board would have never let it go.

the point is that he has a LOT to learn. His arrogance doesn't help him. his extreme liberalism and total lack of experience along with his tainted associates will bring him down a notch.

"I know that let's out the current Lib candidate who thinks we have 57 states"

I finally listened to the clip of him saying 57 states. I was wondering where he got the 57 from. Seemed like an odd error to make. He meant to say 47.

Dianne72, you racist piece of sh*t. you can keep harping on that "hussein" crap all you freaking want, but "shaniqua"?
you hate mongering klan member.
her middle name is "LaVaughn," not that it matters since your point is simply to scream - over and over - "HOLY CRAP! THEY'RE BLACK!" as if we are all blind.
way to racebait. you know the south lost, right? you know why? because hate makes you weak.
Go back to the 1850s and may you choke on your own white sheets...

american patriot -
you are exactly right. the question is not necessarily how do we protect ourselves from an attack, but what do we do to prevent them from happening and whether Rudy, McCheney or Duya want to admit it or not, al qaida has reasons (and not single a one of them is because they hate our freedom) and until we address those, we will always have to watch our backs.

I am sure Obama bin laden feels utterly vanquished everytime he pokes his head out of his cave to take a pee. Any moment could bring death from above on his 10th century world.

I am equally confident that Iran is not feeling so powerful these days. anyone with any sense of geography and military would understand (I know that let's out the current Lib candidate who thinks we have 57 states and that Afghanistan and Iraq speak the same language) that Iran is now surrounded by hostile powers, and to spice up the equation, ewo democracies which are US allies. that would make anyone feel pretty hemmed in.

Unless, of course, the next doofus in power promises to retreat and give up ASAP. now that would make my evil Persian heart jump. and even better, his name is Osama hussain. what could be better?

McGeezer has already demonstrated the onset of senility. He can't remember who is fighting whom. He can't remember what side of an issue he's on. WATCH HIM ON TV! He has "Senior Moments" every time he's on. Old is fine, I'm getting old, but I'm not running for President. His timeworn ideas have been proven not to work many times over the years. All he has to sell is fear it's self, the same old stinky bush cheese.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday he would bring Osama bin Laden to justice in a way that wouldn't allow the terrorist mastermind to become a martyr, but he may be killed if the U.S. government finds him.

what power, what mastery, what control

what an arrogant idiot.

gooch73,

"Obama is the new George McGovern, only without the military expierence".

You are right.

Obama is so far left that he has left America. Only few left over "GD America" crowds are still on this blog.

Poor Zouki, I'm sure, besides wetting itself in terror every time the words "liberal", "terrorist" "Muslim", "Islam" or Obama are posted or uttered, Zouki must hate the knowledge that the ONLY entities emboldened by the most disastrous decision in US history-the Iraq invasion and occupation-are Usama bin Laden and Iran.

Now, as opposed to Ahmadinejad's being able to publish an itinerary days in advance when visiting Iraq, Bush Jr can only sneak into Iraq like the most cowardly thief in the night, IE with no more than a 5-minute "heads up" to the Iraqis. That he's also avoided giving a speech in the Iraq Parliament shows just how much he values the Iraqis when making his decisions.

And as shown with the atrocious Federal response to Katrina, there's not much point of "fighting terrorists over there" when you don't do a damn thing to protect US lives on US soil, "over here".

Zouk, if you support McCain and Bush Jr, then you support Usama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, those thugs who supposedly "hate our freedoms", as it's Bush Jr who's been raping and subverting the very source of our freedoms, the US Constitution, ate every possible opportunity.

BTW, are you comfortable with a President Obama having the SAME unchecked, imperial powers at his disposal as Bush Jr claims?

And what makes you think, logically-I know, a word that doesn't apply to blithering Bush Jr lackeys like yourself-that McCain has ANY chance of getting anything but totally crushed in this election, or have you forgotten just how badly the voters across the US smacked down your viewpoint in the 2006 elections?

And to echo other readers here, there is NO video showing Michelle Obama yelling "Whitey", if that was the case, it would have been publicized and shown already by those Dem voters bitter about Hillary not getting the Dem nomination, and they would have shown it BEFORE Obama clinched the nomination.

Too bad, so sad.

We might ask if Republicans are so good at fighting terrorism why have we yet to win The War on Terror. As I recall we did win World War II in about 4 years. If we really were safer, McCain shouldn't need to make arguments for gutting the Constitution.

Further, I don't understand how anyone can say that Senator Obama doesn't want to deal with Terrorism--he clearly does and he clearly has no compunctions about using force to do it. There's a difference between being vigilant and being trigger happy. In enhancing our security, we might want to consider using the most powerful weapon in our arsenal--our intelligence.

We might ask if Republicans are so good at fighting terrorism why we have yet to win The War on Terror. As I recall we did win World War II in about 4 years. If we really were safer, McCain shouldn't need to make arguments for gutting the Constitution.

Further, I don't understand how anyone can say that Senator Obama doesn't want to deal with Terrorism--he clearly does and he clearly has no compunctions about using force to do it. There's a difference between being vigilant and being trigger happy. In enhancing our security, we might want to consider using the most powerful weapon in our arsenal--our intelligence.

You think those two young Muslim women would get a seat behind John McCain? They wouldn't even be allowed in the same room.

kingofzouk wrote:

the last nail in the coffin will be when Obama is embarrassed into the town hall and someone asks this - if you want out of Iraq so bad, why stay in Germany and Japan?

the answer - I umm, you see, you know, well, it's like, umm, let me say, well, because....ummm. this is just a distraction. that wasn't the war I knew back then.
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Zouk, you are really grasping at straws if you think this sophomoric question will trip up Senator Obama.

I don't think you've been paying much attention but our presence in Germany & Japan was and is justified. Unlike Iraq.

I happen to think you are not dumb as some of the posters here claim. I do think you are trying to hard to prove your conservative bona fides. I say this because you consistently take indefensible positions to defend neo-con policies and say some of the most ridiculous things to attack the liberals on.

But you are an interesting study. I look forward to reading your posts. Seriously, I mean this. I find it quite interesting the things you choose to say in an attempt to demonize the left and defend the right.

Cry Babies....... Get a life.

Sombody explain to me how 5 yasrs in a prison gives one EXPERIENCE to be commander in Chief. I've got 1600 potential commanders at the prison where I work.
McSame has the same type EXPERIENCE as Harding, Hoover, Cooledge, Nixon, Reagon, Bush, and Lil Bush. All were disasters and and McSame would also be a disaster, both foreign and domestic.
Hitler and Tojo had EXPERIENCE for Christ sake!

What's objectively true is that Bush and Cheney are liars and have supported torture, brought us into an illegal war, are failed strategists, have killed Iraqi women and children and US soldiers without a decent reason, and are interested in controlling the oil in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hard to believe Giuliani was a US attorney, his integrity is now virtually non-existent.

HM Moderate wrote: Only in John McCain's warped world is the notion of enforcing the constitution (ie. habeaus corpus, due process, humane treatment of prisoners, etc...) considered "un-american".

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Because McCain wants somebody-anybody..to shed blood for his stay in Vietnam. He is the one who really is saying G-Damn America and the Troops with his attitude...he sees blood and revenge and he is a dangerous man.

DETROIT -- A young Muslim woman said she and another woman were refused seats directly behind Barack Obama - and in front of TV cameras - at a Detroit rally because they wear head scarfs.

Yet again, Barry Hussein throws more Muslims under the bus. Hold on America, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

You inaccurately suggest here that Democrats deny that Iraq is a front in the "war on terror." In fact, most liberals deny only that Iraq was a center of al-Qa'eda before the Bush invasion. It is indisputable that the invasion and the ensuing unrest have created new opportunities for extremist groups in Iraq.

Obama is the new George McGovern, only without the military expierence.

Only in John McCain's warped world is the notion of enforcing the constitution (ie. habeaus corpus, due process, humane treatment of prisoners, etc...) considered "un-american".

Am I missing something in Rudy's message, or did the 9/11 attacks take place under the watchful eyes (and noses) of a Republican administration? Thank you Mr. Mayor, but I'm not certain I want or need your version of protection. What I fear far more than terrorism is another 4 years of Republican rule with "Pop Gun" McCain's finger on the "nukuler" (sorry, couldn't pass it up) button.

Obama will keep us safe because terrorists know that they are safe in Hussein regimes.

It might be hard to find bin Laden in Rove's bedroom. There are so many guys hiding there. You have Jeff Ganon, the gay hustler that they let pass as a news reporter. Scott McClellan, who is now on the outs but I bet he stops by for some luvin. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Rev Haggar, ken Melman and the list goes on and on.

Four more years of Bush/McSame is far more frightening than terrorism. Just think if we had competent people in charge of Homeland Security, FIMA etc. etc. etc. instead of incompatent cronies!

America started out as a great experiment that they said could never work. No nation could function on the principle that all men are created equal--and without even a monarch. We love our constitution. We have fought many battles to protect and extend our basic belief that all men are created equal. Either America works or it doesn't. I think it does. The words, "all men", are not ambivalent. All men doesn't mean everybody except the crooks, thieves or terrorists. I believe our nation is based on a constitution that works. And if that is true, then we can deal with wrong doers within the framework of it's guide lines. Our government has been acting as if we can't trust the constitution; as if it's OK for regular people, but it's precepts aren't strong enough for really bad people. I think our constitution has proven itself over time. It's way of law is strong enough to deal with "all men". We should start acting like we believe it.

There is only one place left to look for Osama bin Laden and that's in Karl Rove's bedroom. It's the only place we haven't searched yet in the entire world. Everyone else is has either been searched or is being spied on so it must be that Karl is hiding his turbaned lover.
OH and don't even try to say Karl isn't a closet homosexual, isn't it obvious that he is?! He's what 50-55 years old and has never been seen in the company of a woman. What do you think?

zoukie I just love reading your posts! My day isn't complete unless I hear from you here. Really. If you didn't post I'd have to read all these well-reasoned and solidly well-informed liberal rantings. It's, I dunno, like there's this passionately lunatic right wing fringe crowd and then there's you. Do you recite the R's daly talking points that got discarded because they were just really TOO stupid for anyone to believe? Tell us your secret to this wisdom zoukdude.

It is not that these war hawks fail to get it that bothers me, it is that when they do and the American people buy into that yelling fire in a crowded theater American troops DIE. Death meaning final, life no more. They have no respect for our troops.

So, here, they attempt to spoon feed a heavy dose of fear to the American people in hopes that they might somehow squeeze out an ouce of desperation from the electorate.

Truth is, they will go down in history as the party that manufactured lies to start a unilateral war against a sovereign nation assassinating their president.

Lets' see the Republicans rejected Giuliani as their candidate, but now we're supposed to embrace his 9/11 rhetoric? Ridiculous. The McCain Bush strategy of stay the course is a failure, period.

Rudy better be careful about what he says about 9/11. Rudy and the former Governor rubbed the victims of the money they were to get. When the investigation is done on what happen with the 9/11 victims money you'll see Rudy will be sent to jail. Rudy has more crimes then any Republican looking to be VP. A cross dresser, mistresses and a strange love relationship with Bernard. Something is really wrong with Rudy but he does fit in with the GOP group of Vitters, Craig and Foley.

Joseph McCarthy would be proud of the contemporary GOP, using fearmongering, smear tactics, false accusations and avoiding most major issues of importance to most Americans. The Republicans are truly showing their desperation this year, realizing any discussion of substantive domestic issues will doom their chances of keeping the White House and minimizing losses in Congress.

They seek to dupe as many Americans as possible who may be guillible to such unpatriotic propaganda. Elect McCain if you want to stay indefinitely in Iraq and perhaps Iran next, continue the trampling of civil liberties, as well as the Constitution, neglecting domestic problems, especially health care and high inflation.

This Week in Afghanistan, courtesy of WashPost.com:

TODAY, Page 07: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061700261.html

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/18/AR2008061800742.html?hpid=moreheadlines

JUNE 17: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061700220.html

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061700372.html

JUNE 16: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061600856.html

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061601991.html

JUNE 15: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/14/AR2008061401639.html

JUNE 14: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/13/AR2008061303501.html

Have Hypublicrits nothing but to offer but fear?

BE AFRAID PEOPLE BE VERY VERY AFRAID!

Chris...even McCAIN said Rudy had ZERO foreign policy experience.

How can you not mention that Rudy IS NOT a terrorist expert...far from it.

From McCain, Sept. 4th, 2007:
"I think the nation respects the mayor's leadership after 9/11, and I do, too, and I think he displayed leadership at a time that Americans needed some steady hand, and I think that his conduct was very laudatory following 9/11," Mr. McCain said, when asked why so many voters identify Mr. Giuliani with the issue of terrorism.

But he went on to say: "I don't think it translates, necessarily, into foreign policy or national security expertise. I know of nothing in his background that indicates that he has any experience in it, with him or Romney."

I think the last comment really hit Rudy's style dead on. Something tells me, though, that after branding himself as one of the most inept national politicians in recent decades (i.e. his deeply flawed presidential strategy), his pull with voters has been greatly diminished. It's also worth noting that the idea of a Republican arguing that he/she is in touch with the "politics of reality" is itself laughable. Seriously.

So..stuck in an ill advised and ill planned war 5 years later we should believe now that the same shortsighted fear mongers who got us in this mess are the best ones to protect us now?!? If anyone buys that then..but wait they bought that B.S. in 04. I'm scared.

hazwalnut,

I'm worried about your IQ. These suicide bombers, or "them," aren't state actors. If you say Iraq or Iran, fine, but you can't then link them to all terrorists every where. Let's get the hell out of Arabia. You're a true internationalist if you believe it is this country's job to police the globe, especially in ARABAIA!!! What about Pakistan? They're undemocratic. Saudia Arabia is one of the most autocratic regimes on earth, and our President was just there brown nosing. This is the same Saudi Arabia that is home to 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists. Should we invade Saudi Arabia, too? What about the Sudan? Libya? How come Iraq? Doesn't this all strike you as sort of left field. Non-state terrorists attack us, so we invade Iraq. Why? Because Saddam Hussein was a liability with all that oil. I'm not an apologist for Saddam, but the Sauds wanted him gone because they dominate OPEC, and they knew Saddam would exceed his OPEC quota and drill more of Iraq's oil. This, my friend, diminishes Saudi Arabia and George Bush's friends in Houston's ability to dictate global oil prices. That's all there is to it. That's why your party and the media tell you Hugo Chavez is an awful dictator. Granted, he's a moron. But the media and your party dislike him because...GUESS! That's right, he, too, exceeds his OPEC quota and sells discount heating oil to low income families in the Bronx and other areas of America that George Bush's tax cuts have done wonders for. This isn't just lefty Luke telling you this, ALAN GREENSPAN has said the same, albeit less bombastically, since he left the Fed. Do you really believe your vote is saving the world? It isn't, and neither is mine, but I'm humble enough to recognize as much. Your party and John McCain are going down this fall. And you really need to lose. You've really damaged this country. Wall St. won't let John McCain win, at this point even Republicans are bad for business. Their platform is a box full of 8th grade ideas packaged in McCarthyism. Thanks but no thanks. I hate to be so partisan, but for Christ's sake you guys need to hear it.

New York City Secession 2010

zoukie sounds stressed out, his insult to content ratio is sky high, could be he's afraid of the Obama man.

..Didn't 911 happen on Guiliani's watch? and how much did he spend in his campaign to get 1 delegate? he should go into hiding and keep his mouth shut..

I don't think that anybody really takes 'one-note Rudy' seriously anymore.

Presumably the speech included the following excerpt:

"Nine eleven, folks. Nine eleven nine eleven; NINE ELEVEN! If nine eleven nine eleven, then nine eleven nine eleven JOHN MCCAIN nine eleven. Nine eleven Barack Obama nine eleven? Nine eleven. Nine eleven!"

I am so excited! I am anxiously awaiting the fallout from the "Larry Sinclair-Gate"...

"Whitey-Gate" in October!

Here we go again. The same old Republican party scare and we'll keep you safe tactics. We had that for seven years. And look what its gotten us.

John McCain desperately needs the American people and the media to pay some attention to him. The only thing is that every one already has a good grasp of what a John McCain presidency would mean; in fact, this is one of his campaign's selling points. The reality is that the country would look like this , or, even farther to the right economically. Unfortunately for John McCain, their ideas are worn out. We get it, only you guys know what victory looks like, and only you guys hate terrorists, now wander back to your caves, please. Barack Obama is going to knock McCain in the dirt, and God I can't wait. I want Republicans to lose. If ever a part and a man deserved to lose, It's John McCain and the Republican party. They need to work on that platform of theirs.

P.S. To all of these people who think drilling in Alaska and off-shore will decrease the price you pay for gasoline, you're stoned. This is the Republican Party telling you that we need to hand over more money to Exxon Mobil. Come on, folks, don't be an apologist for the rich. It is commodities brokers on Wall St. artificially driving up the price, which is what George Bush, Newt Gingrich and John McCain want, because this helps Big Oil. And big oil bankrolls all their campaigns, so they're in the interest of giving more money to Big Oil. This is like, me robbing you, and then coming over later and asking you for money. Wake up, America! The Republican Party represents the oil companies. Have they really given you any reason these past 7.5 years, or sinbce 1994, to trust them? Why doesn't President Bush, John McCain and the Republicans in Congress re-direct the $14B subsidies currently lining Big Oil's pockets, and invest that money in biofuels? Why don't they actually regulate oil & commodities markets? The reason is that this was their plan. And now they're offering more of your tax dollars to big oil. Grow up, kids!

New York City Secession 2010

I don't think people trust Senator Obama to keep us safe. I think the people who say that believe Obama's contention that he can "talk them out of it."

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle...surely Senator Obama is not so naive as to believe that some of the people who wish us to be obliterated from the earth will listen to reason. They kill themselves they are so dedicated. For heavens sake, are there that many people out there who are buying the "talking" argument. Of course, you need to carry on a conversation, probably not the president, but people representing the US.

If there are those who believe suicide bombers can be talked out of their mission, I'm getting really scared about the IQ of the average voter.

Of course, the polls are way off and will be right up until the election. The pollsters have become so political, they provide figures based on what they want to happen, not what the voters may feel.

Where can you watch or listen to larry sinclair at National Press Club today?

It is on at 3 PM.

Guliani was a popular non-partisan hero until he began cashing in on 9/11. Didn't the facade crash down during the Republican primary? How does he have any credibility?

Can't you just see Giulianii standing there
screaming the same thing? Did everyone laugh?

Wasn't he thoroughly rejected in primary votes?

Isn't it just breathtaking that the Rovians are going to try one more scare round, atleast one more?

The correct question is:

WHY DID 9/11 HAPPEN in the first place.

Irrelevant statement:
There was no attack since 9/11

Oh boo hoo! Any form of media that doesn't give Obama a glowing review is consider a right-wing rag or called racist. You people really need to clue on reality. McCain is working at a disadvantage both by loving coverage they shower on the annointed one and the amount of money he has in his campaign coffers.

The arguement was presented that Hamas and the terrorists favor Obama. That defies logic.

Logic would have it that terrorsists would favor that which forwards their agenda. What has been the single greatest recruiting tool for the terrorists? The policies of GW Bush. Since McSame promises to keep going strongly down that blind alley, naturally the terrorists will want John-boy to win.

To that end, don't be at all surprised if Al Quaeda does McSame a favor and tries to stir the pot by staging some sort of "event" timed to assist McSame in the election. And don't be surprised if the Bushies are complicit in this attack the same as they were for the last one. Because that forwards THEIR agenda. Gotta keep the sheeple-pople in a state of constant fear, or else they will start to remember that the president's primary duty is NOT to keep them safe. Read the words of the oath of office: The ONLY duty of the President spelled out in the oath of office is to preserve, protect, and defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC. Fine job the republocons have been doing of that, eh?

Nadeem Zakaria is an Anti-American paid swiftboater

Does anyone ever step back and take a moment to reflect on 911?

If our airline security had been up to snuff, none of the planes would've been hijacked. The WTC would still be standing. Bin Laden would be sitting in a cave gazing at his navel. The Taliban would still be building it's version of Islamic paradise in Afghanistan by taking it back to the dark ages.

But, men with razor knives / carpet cutters were allowed on planes, and from there they cut the throats of the crew, took control and flew the airplanes into buildings.

Airline security was watered down for years, contracted to foreign firms so that our needlessly bankrupt airlines could shave a few bucks off cost structures. Total deregulation of the airlines took the rate floor out from under airline fares. The rate floor assured minimal profitability, on the premise that a profitable airline is a safe airline. Once the rate floor was gone, everything else got dumbed down in the insane search to save a few bucks for the sake of low fares. We did this to ourselves. Our own nation is 50% culpable for 911.

We let Bin Laden get away at Tora Bora when Rummy decided to let the Afghan warlords finish him off. Instead, Bin Laden and 5000 of his pals walked out by paying bribes to the warlord's "troops" who were/are dirt poor and have no allegiance to anyone but themselves. We had the Army's 10th Mtn Division sitting at Kabul airport, who would have been glad to annihilate Al Queda, the Taliban and Bin Laden at Tora Bora, but Rummy wanted to do all of this on the cheap. On the cheap. One the cheap. Cheap airfares led to pisspoor airline security. Cheap warfare led to letting them walk over the border to Pakistan.

On the cheap is going to kill us all someday, not just the 911 victims.

Let's give credit where credit is due. The main reason we are safe is because of the hard work of the FBI, CIA and local law enforcement, not the politics of the moment.

No presidential candidate is going to change that calculus.

But perhaps, if we did better in the war on terror itself, we might be even more safe than we are now. On that front, Obama wins hands down.

On Cilizza's blog, the only comments published are anti - Obama. WaPo has realy become a right-wing rag. It now ranks with The Sun in the U.K., or any of the trashy papers owned by Murdoch. Time to boycott this sleazy rag!

Rather than saying "the race has turned into a referendum on which candidate can keep Americans safe from the threat of terrorism" it would make more sense to say that the McCain campaign is trying to achieve that, since there is no evidence the majority of Americans are actually responding.

Barry Hussein throws a billion Muslims under the bus. Hold on America, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

I don't know how Obama can say we are less safe than we wher pre 9/11, but according to the scoreboard I watch it has been 2,472 days since we where last attacked here. What scoreboard is Obama looking at?

If you moonbats are this angry, crazy, demented, illogical, vindictive, ignorant, stupid and in denial now, I can't imagine how over the edge you will be after you lose another presidential election, based on those exact qualities you offer the voters.

the hillary voters saw it, now the moderates will get a chance to see you in the light of day. even the lackeys at the MSM can't conceal this. that moveon ad was so idiotic I am sure it will go down in the annuls of ignorance. do you really need to misrepresent to win, because it seems when you tell the truth, you get laughed at.

Why is it that every time a Republican says a word about Obama, it winds up as a headline on the Post, but St John never is questioned?

This is the reason the WaPo is continuing its steady decline. How about some balance? BTW-Your CW remains out the mainstream because you are no longer the filter...people know McCain's positions, regardless of how WaPo tries to propogandize the public with little more than daily stenography of McCain conference calls with a bunch of losers who have been wrong for the past 20 years.

Get ready folks. Larry Sinclair is now at the National Press Club and will be divulging the lurid details of his special "relationship" with Barry Hussein. No wonder Michelle Shaniqua Obama reminds me of a man...

He and Mccain would be perfect together. Two guys whose lives have been complete disgraces except of one incident in their lives that they have tried to live off of. Mccain was a military disgrace. Rudy except for 9/11 was a disgrace.

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Looks like Rudy is going to run as VP. What a pair of geezers they make. It's time for Obama to go negative. We need to counterpunch those lying SOBs.

Posted by: Yuri Lipitzmeov | June 18, 2008 2:42 PM

Comments have to be approved? Excuse me? WaPo is supposed to be an independent newspaper, where every reader should be able to contribute without censorship. There is still such a thing as free expression in the US. Or has it been overturned by Presidential decree when I was asleep last night?

Cirilla never had much credence, being such an obvious tool of the Republicans. Now, he has really crossed the line. And so has WaPo to allow this censorship to happen.

Rest assured, WaPo editors, that this will generate a huge backlash against your "newspaper". There is a huge community out there that is going to put pressure on your advertisers. Good luck fighting it.

Obama's position on habeas corpus for prisoners is so outlandish that a Supreme Court composed of 7 of 9 members appointed by Republican presidents agree with him (albeit by a 5-4 margin).
As does George Will (read yesterday's column), who, as a true conservative, understands the importance of maintaining the constitutional limits of governmental power.

Shouldn't presidential candidates be required to understand the document that outlines our freedoms and the processes by which those freedoms are defended?

And, yes, you can defend our national security and the constitution at the same time.

the last nail in the coffin will be when Obama is embarrassed into the town hall and someone asks this - if you want out of Iraq so bad, why stay in Germany and Japan?

the answer - I umm, you see, you know, well, it's like, umm, let me say, well, because....ummm. this is just a distraction. that wasn't the war I knew back then.

Here's a you tube for you Sandy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo

"The last nail in the Obama coffin will occur when the Republicans post Michelle Obama's "whitey-gate" YouTube on October."

Posted by: Sandy | June 18, 2008 2:46 PM

Total lie, no such tape exists
fightthesmears.com

If you want to win the election, this is a hell of a way to do it. Pathetic. This will drive independents away from the GOP en masse.

"Whitey-Gate" teaser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNPVpXTrX0A&feature=related

The only terror people need to be afraid of is Mccain. He can do more damage to our country then terrorists.

If it existed it would already have been sold to a tabloid for a million. Sorry, it doesn't exist.

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The last nail in the Obama coffin will occur when the Republicans post Michelle Obama's "whitey-gate" YouTube on October.

Posted by: Sandy | June 18, 2008 2:46 PM

The last nail in the Obama coffin will occur when the Republicans post Michelle Obama's "whitey-gate" YouTube on October.

Don't underestimate the power that the 3 supporters of Giuliani have in this election. Well, Bernie Kerik is one of them... is he a convicted felon yet? Make that 2 supporters. They could easily swing an election somewhere.

I find it fascinating that the constituencies who adamantly insist that Obama's policies will not keep us safe are mostly concentrated in areas that have never been threatened by Islamic jihadists. Meanwhile, the areas that HAVE been attacked seem to overwhelmingly support Obama and his approach.

To wit:
(percentages from fivethirtyeight.com)
NY (attacked in '93 and '01, one site of anthrax attacks) - 97% likely to go to Obama
MA (where the 9/11 planes took off) - 97% likely to go to Obama
DC (proximate to Pentagon attack, one site of anthrax attacks) - 100% likely to go to Obama
VA (nominal site of Pentagon attack) - 59% likely to go to Obama
CA (destination of 9/11 planes, alleged target of another attack) - 93% likely to go to Obama

So let me get this straight - the residents of these states, the people under actual threat of terrorist attack thus far, overwhelmingly support Obama, but they are somehow deluded or naive? I guess the residents of the heretofore-unattacked-by-Islamic-extremists Plains and rural Southern states are the ones who REALLY understand the implications of global jihad.

Give me a break.

Ah yes, the good old politics of fear . . . Al Queda is JUST around the corner kiddies, so send us your money, your votes, and YOUR sons to go to war and we will keep you safe (snicker snicker). Meanwhile our economy slips into third world status and ever closer to the unthinkable, the U.S. Government defaulting on its obligation - bankrupt as the mortgage bundlers of Wall St.

I'm sure a million bloodthirsty killers from Al Queda are waiting just out of sight off the coast of Myrtle Beach in an armada of invasion ships that would dwarf our D-Day invasion of France, and at the right minute they will storm ashore and lay to waste to the 129 golf courses of the Grand Strand and filet Pat Robertson to deep fry (Calabash Style, of course) with hush puppies.

Then there's Rudy, still a 1-trick pony: 911, 911, 911, 911, 911.

I'm not sure the campaign has morphed into a referendum on terrorism, but I will agree the GOP is TRYING to take it there, after all, fear of the unknown and the unseen is a great way to milk votes and money out of people, as the NRA, the anti-abortion crowd, environmentalists, and religions everywhere have known for centuries. This is the only topic the GOP has on its side, and its a week argument at best. The real war/terrorism argument is about getting OUT of Iraq and finishing the job in Afghanistan / Pakistan.

The economy, energy, health care and other SERIOUS topics are the real issues this year, not terrorism, not Gay Marriage, not flag burning.

They dragged rudy out? They must be desperate.
Rudy G. a 9/11 one hit wonder.

Losers both.

Looks like Rudy is going to run as VP. What a pair of geezers they make. It's time for Obama to go negative. We need to counterpunch those lying SOBs.

Typical Republican logic: "Gee, there sure are a lot of people here who disagree with the Republican party. Somebody must have summoned the LOONY LEFT from MOVEON.ORG! And also George Soros must be involved! But it couldn't possibly be a sign that public sentiment is turning AWAY from the GOP!"

Your carter references are failing miserably. You must be trying to appeal to aged McCain voters. Try some alf landon references.

King of Zouk:

I've MISSED you baby! You haven't been posting much lately, what happened?

Oooh, I just want bend you over that keyboard and grab ahold of those cute pot-bellied love handles of yours.

Call me.

XXOO

Well, obviously, the fear - mongering is not getting much traction any longer, except with ignorany yahoos with the I.Q of a grapefruit.

As for Rudy "9/11" Giuliani, -- being his usual exhibitionist and power-craving psycho -- he is desperate for attention. His "all terror all the time" presidential campaign landed him in a ditch. He ought to just shut up, and rake up the speaking fees that he needs to keep his trash-to-riches wife the way she has now become accustomed to be kept. What a loser. He and his trashy wife deserve one another.

"There seems little doubt that the question of who can keep America safe from another domestic terrorist attack will be front and center in the minds of many voters in the fall campaign." - CC

I disagree, respectfully.

Absent another terrorist attack before the GE there seems grave doubt that this issue will be front and center in the minds of even a few voters.

Not only was Bush in office HE had info PRIOR to 9/11 which he ignored.

Libs have no shame - they should.
Posted by: libs = america last | June 18, 2008 12:51 PM READ:
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-adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
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-noun 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
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McBrainless as viewed by Eiet Nam Veterans:
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So, let me get this straight:

Rudy Giuliani, who wanted Bernard Kerik to be in charge of Homeland Security, and who spent 57 million dollars to win one delegate to the Republican National Convention, wants us to listen to him when it comes to issues of national security.

After the debacle of his presidential campaign, Rudy's previously lucrative "consulting firm" is going bankrupt.

No wonder he's sucking up to McLame.

The notion that security concerns or terrorism will define this election is a GOP fantasy. Americans are concerned on overwhelming numbers about the economy, jobs, the mortgage crisis, burgeoning gas prices, the faltering dollar, and soaring food prices.

Bush/McCain's insane war on Iraq comes a close second in our interest as we want a rapid and sure way out of that quagmire.
Rudy Guiliani has only one drum to beat -- 9/11 --and he beats its incessantly. McSame is nuts to hope that trotting out that discredited strategy will help him win in November.

Obama is a strong leader whose firm and reasonable approach to international relations will ensure our nation's safety and prosperity. His vision is what we need to restore our security in a dangerous world.

Posted by: star | June 18, 2008 12:21 PM

Obama has already given up on winning in FL and OH. He seems to think that an extreme liberal can win in VA, when even DINOs barely go over 50% (52% in the last election with the maccacca wind at his back).

So once again Obama proposes to win by losing. How stupid and gullible do you have to be to fall for this boulderdash?

Oh, I know, you have to be a Lib. then facts, figures and reality simply don't matter.

When all else fails throw in the great standbys, like "weak on terror." As if weak on age, weak on getting up in the morning, weak on fixing the economy, and just weak period were not the standbys of old McCain. What doesn't seem to soak in with most voters is that policy makers and boiler room consultants make the presidents think. Presidents rarely go it alone. McCain is no different. He's just slow and old.

Obama needs to employ a two front strategy against McCain. The Obama campaign should attack from the left by expanding the debate. Bring in energy security, Russia, Iran & Venezuela with $200/barrel oil, North Korea, competition from China & India. Don't let them focus on terrorists and terrorists only.

The second front is supporting Bob Barr from the libertarian right. Set a goal of Barr grabbing 5-10% of the vote in red states. Have Obama's supporters give to the Barr campaign and let him loose attacking McCain as the enemy of freedom. There are plenty of libertarians who will never vote for Obama but would willingly vote for Barr. Just like greens who voted for Nader. Increased turnout for Obama coupled with a drain of support to Barr, could tip some of the reddest states blue.

There is another post which I echo; just because McSame and the Republicans claim this raice is a referendum on who makes us safer, it does not mean that this race is about such a choice. Don't buy the talking points; this election is about the economy, Iraq, and a new direction for this country.

Posted by: Truthpatriot | June 18, 2008 12:20 PM

Wow Obama's comments have been spun way out of control. He was referring to the detainee's at Guantanamo and other prisoners held in foreign countries when he touted the use of the American criminal justice system in fighting criminals.

Now those comments are interpreted as Obama doing nothing to "fight terrorism". Its not like no president "fought terrorism" before Bush. Post 9-11 we've seen improvements such as the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the restructuring of the intelligence community, and a shift in emphasis from the Cold War mindset. Obama has not once mentioned repealing these steps forward.

Back in the day terrorism was seen as a series of isolated incidents, most of which occurred in foreign countries, and was the work of criminals. This is still true today, but in the past no one recognized the scope of the threat or how ineffective the measures we took were. The Bush administration was correct in their identification of Islamist terrorism as a unifying ideology among the more high-profile terrorists of the world. Many of the steps taken immediately after 9-11 were well thought-out, effective, and legal. What has come in the years since is a parade of measures that undermine the constitution of our nation and threaten to turn us into the enemy we thought we were fighting.

In short, as long as Obama doesn't propose to stop the initiatives that are actually stopping terrorist attacks (I truly doubt that 6 years of torture in Guantanamo has stopped a single attack), then will everyone just shut up and acknowledge that respecting the constitution comes first? thats a conservative principle at its finest, one that John McCain seems to have forgotten.

In the land of the FREE and home of the BRAVE tell me why are there these FEAR Mongers .... Trying to scare us into WHAT? What about the crime here in the US Fix that? Terrorism is in one's mind. Being an MIA and POW he will always be fearful.....He needs a Psyc.... Mc Cain, Guiliani, Bush, Cheney, just want to keep getting PAID off of us being afraid. NO,NO,NO we are not afraid. I'm afraid that these kids that are fighting this illegal WAR are losing their lives BASED ON A LIE.........I'm afraid that this GOV'T won't take care of them once their F**Ked UP by their OWN GOV'T History is repeating itself.... Wake UP America DON'T BE AFRAID CALL there Bluff.....

FH - way too complex for the liberal mind. do you have something they can chant? if it rhymes, even better.

there must be a link directly from moveon.org, Daily Kos or huff post today. All the most extreme irrational liberal haters and mindless america-last buffoons are present here today.

Please don't bring up economics, foreign policy, taxes, facts, or any other actual issue. It only sends them into a frenzy,as you can readily observe.

Posted by: kingofzouk | June 18, 2008 1:44 PM

then why dont you bring up McCain's policies? or better yet do it under one of your sockpuppets? or better yet cut and paste a article from world net daily or the national review?

king of zouk: the 3 things he says are a noun, a verb, and libs.

A noun, a verb, and 9/11.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 18, 2008 12:03 PM

John - If I found out a fact, I may have to amend my leftist Carter-era positions. That is the same reason I refuse to go to Iraq, meet with generals, talk to the press, go off the teleprompter, etc. I am having enough trouble already shifting over from my win-the-primary positions to the convince-the-idiots stances I will be taking for the general.

Rudy Guiliani did not keep anyone safe from terrorism. His city was attacked on his watch. The buildings where he had chosen to locate his emergency command center were destroyed.

He gave speeches afterwards, and people respected his calmness and resolve. But he did not and never has kept people "safe from terrorism."

Posted by: BB | June 18, 2008 2:03 PM

"The politics of reality seems to be saying that, after 6 and a half years of combatting terrorism, we're no further along than we were on Sept 11, 2001. Perhaps its time to try a new approach.

Posted by: bsimon | June 18, 2008 1:11 PM"

When I look at this entire thread, it honestly makes me sad all over...but I will take this specific quote to discuss.
First, on Sept. 10th terrorist camps in Afgahn. were churning out terrorists. That's not happening now. You can argue that the camps have been moved to Pakistan, which is a fair argument, but the same level of freedom to operate has certainly been diminished.

On Iraq, it's easy to criticize the Bush decision to go to war, but it is near ridiculous to absolve the dems. from the votes they cast to authorize the use of force. They made many of the same arguments that Bush makes today to justify those votes...and rightly so. There were many reasons to bring Saddam down, unfortunately for Bush his primary focus to the American people turned out to be wrong. (WMD) But, again, the dems, using the same basic intelligence Bush had, came to many of the same conclusions as the POTUS with regards to Saddam after 9/11.

Ironically, I believe the decision to go to war in Iraq has benefited our fight against terror in ways we did not count on. Afghanistan is a terrible place to fight a war. The Soviets threw everything they had at an unconventional enemy in the 80's and just got their butt's handed to them. All the jihadi's that flocked to Iraq, instead of Afghanistan, have mostly found death. The terrain in Iraq is much easier to navigate than in Afghanistan. Also, the tactic of large scale killings of innocent Muslims to inflict damage on the Coalition has mostly backfired. It has really impacted Al Qeada's popularity in the Mid-East over the last few years.

It is very easy to criticize a plan, but far more difficult to make the hard decisions when they are required. There are many ways to go about fighting the terrorists. I think that the focus on a strategy of law-enforcement was a failure in the 90's. You can certainly make the argument that the Bush admin. strategy was far too ambitious when all that was required was the elimination of the safe-haven in Afghanistan...but I do not buy into the argument that the efforts of the last 8 years have been a waste.

Lastly, what makes the U.S. a great place to live is that people get to decide if we are going in the right direction every 4 years. I don't believe the Bush admin. is some kind of evil force that has been trying to throw overboard the constitution at every turn. I think they have had to make some very difficult decisions, during some very difficult times, and that they made the decisions they thought were right in order to protect the American people. Whether they were right or wrong is really a matter of opinion at this point. History will make the ultimate verdict, but that will not be written for decades to come. I hope Pres. Obama has good people around him, I think he will find that judgement is much more difficult when your on the field, instead of in the stands.

Respectfully, FH

Speaking of terror, here's a creepy McCain video from youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhomInJ7Pc&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/18/10737/6519/444/537567

Can we water board McCain and Giuliani to find out if they really have a clue about terrorism? At the same time we can water board out their true connection to the oil cartel. We know the reason Bush, Cheney and the Republican Party invaded Iraq was not to fight terrorism but to protect oil interest and get fabulously richer doing so.

We must assume that McCain, Giuliani and those who want to continue the war in Iraq are lying (where is lawyer Haynes and Chevron when you need them) when they claim the reason to stay in Iraq is to fight the mystical terrorism.

We know each time we are forced to pay $4.00/gal that the real reason neo-cons want to remain in Iraq is to satisfy the oil cartel and get incredibly rich doing so. END THE WAR IN IRAQ.

All you NeoCon kooks and other globalization fans, this is real terror:

RBS ISSUES GLOBAL STOCK AND CREDIT CRASH ALTERT - Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
Last Updated: 5:42pm BST 18/06/2008

"The Royal Bank of Scotland has advised clients to brace for a full-fledged crash in global stock and credit markets over the next three months as inflation paralyses the major central banks.
"A very nasty period is soon to be upon us - be prepared," said Bob Janjuah, the bank's credit strategist.
A report by the bank's research team warns that the S&P 500 index of Wall Street equities is likely to fall by more than 300 points to around 1050 by September as "all the chickens come home to roost" from the excesses of the global boom, with contagion spreading across Europe and emerging markets.

RBS warning: Be prepared for a 'nasty' period
Such a slide..amounts to one of the worst bear markets over the last century."

Didn't Obama head a subcommittee on Afghanistan that never met? Was he too busy campaigning to do his job?

Ghouliani! The protofascist hiding behind 911! Youre 15 minutes are OVER, don't try to stretch them!

War Is Law Enforcement.

You investigate and identify the correct criminal suspect (or nation). You capture or kill, interogate, and punish or release the suspect/nation.

We pursued and captured the wrong suspect/nation. We incorrectly judged and killed him and we have no idea where the actual criminal is at this point.

Those are the facts Mr. W.

http://jamestshirley.blogspot.com/2008/06/mr-w-vs-law.html

BB at 2:03 PM - You are so right about Rudy, the man who located New York City's emergency coordination center in the WTC, a terrorist target that had already been attacked. That's why he was out in the street on 9/11, readily available for press interviews.

Obama can even buy his own house (in his case Chicago Mansion) without direct help from his dearest friend Tony Rezko who will be prison soon for very long time.

Now, America wants to trust Obama to solve America's middle class housing crisis.

McCain is not better either. Every time Carly Fiorina (McCain Econimic Adviser) gets calls at 3 o'clock in this morning from McCain, she is still busy at the hair salon.

Folks, America is doomed.

Why don't ignorant shut the F@@@ up? When did he say that??
BTW what is your real name?

I wonder if Barry Hussein will invade Pakistan like he said last summer? Is this what he calls "the audacity of hope"?
Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 18, 2008 2:01 PM

Call me crazy, but my sense is the President best able to protect us in a dangerous world is a President with a sane, coherent and comprehensive foreign policy that is driven by realism instead of blind ideology. That person is not John McCain and his advisory board of neocon dead-enders.

In following with my comments about abandoning Iraq, to be logically consistent (there is a first time for everything),if elected, I hereby promise to also flee with my head down from:
Germany
Japan
Bosnia
Kuwait
Philipines
any other base away from our mainland.

I am still considering giving HI and AK back to the natives.

I will sell the land and use the money to pay every union benefit they can think of.

Republicans support
1) Pakistan
2) Saudis
=> Islamic terrorism

Then terrorize us and get our votes while looting our pensions!!!!!!!!!!!

Rudy Guiliani did not keep anyone safe from terrorism. His city was attacked on his watch. The buildings where he had chosen to locate his emergency command center were destroyed.

He gave speeches afterwards, and people respected his calmness and resolve. But he did not and never has kept people "safe from terrorism."

Didn't Joe Biden say that Obama was "clean and articulate"?

I wonder if Barry Hussein will invade Pakistan like he said last summer? Is this what he calls "the audacity of hope"?

kingofzouk - America haters? We don't sell our most sensative military technology to foreign governments, even enemy states. But Boeing did, ITT did, Microsoft did, Tektronix did, Intel did, heck one military contractor HELPED the CHINESE to make their ICBM's more accurate, ICBM's mind you that are targetted at *us*! Actual honest-to-god patriots, people who care about this country, don't aid enemy and poential enemy states. Likewise, corporations that ship jobs offshore don't deserve to be here. A CEO that loots someone's retirement savings, while rewarding themselves with a multimillion dollar bonus may be your idea of a "patriot" but it sure as heck ain't mine! A president that lies and sends an entire country into war, invading a country, and *invented* intelligence, LIED to Congress and the people, about why, ordered young men into battle where they were maimed and killed fr what turns out to be nothing more than a ploy to get cheap oil, is nothig short of a criminal. Economists and pundits that tout the new world order, "globalization", are actually retreaded old fashioned communists, and they are just as dangerous and delussional today, now that they call themselves "Republican's" as they were when they called themselves "Soviets". How can you, with a straight face, sit back and spout nonsense about "patrotism" and support these swine? Are you completely delussional, a brainwashed FOX robot, that sees black but calls it white, believes it is white, and is confuses really really wanting to believe something makes it so?

It's a return of a noun, a verb and 911 as Joe Biden so aptly described Rudy's security credentials. Rudy has no experience in foreign affairs unless one takes a view that Long Island is a foreign country from Manhattan when committing adultery.

It is clear that this site has been invaded by an ignorant element that has no basis in reality and is here to simply insult and cause havoc.

you know who you are. Please go back where you came from by following this link home:

http://www.moveon.org/

you will be much more comfortable in the company of fellow stooges and ignoramuses.

King of Zouk is an Israeli plant.

here's an issue, zoukie=

go comment in your home country.

We don't need you here.

Sieg Heil !

Why are we not scrutinizing McCain's false premise that he would be more effective on terrorism than Obama?
Obama will refocus our efforts to be more effective, utilize both our military and our allies more effectively, and marginalize Al Qaeda. McCain's policy will drive more of the Muslim world in to the embrace of Al Qaeda and Bin Laden.
The answer--as Bush has proved through his mistakes--isn't talking tough, refusing to negotiate, abusing prisoners, and invading more countries. It is about being smart and getting cooperation from allies, achieving victories both on the battlefield and at the nagotiating table. To succeed, we need to engage with the populations of Islamic nations in ways that don't simply recruit more terrorists.
Yet McCain seems to think that tough rhetoric, more refusals to talk to our enemies, and military action in Iran are the answer. His heroic military record and press-friendly availability has cajoled the media to buy into the false idea that he would be more effective at weakening Al Qaeda, when just the opposite is true.

Yeah, ok, Obama's stupid now.

That's a good one, Pat, you moron.

I see the intellectual capital of the left is on display here today. no wonder no one in the real world takes any of you moonbats seriously. Even your political ads are now becoming actual jokes. soon, your candidate will also be an official joke, just like his primogenitors - Jimmy Carter, Mondale, dukakais, McGovern, John Kerry and al gore - the butt(s) of all the jokes.

with the knowledge you display, I trust you will not venture within 1000 feet of an actual issue or fact.

Amusing that the guy whose lobby and law firm is "introducing foreign firms to states to run and profit form private toll roads and what some call the NAFTA highway now being pushed by R party in TX.. accuses Obama of anything..doubt what is said...look whom is front man lobby for foreign toll road in usa? USING YOUR TAX PAID ROADS .Yep ole MR. G is as corrupted as rest.

"The politics of reality seems to be saying that, after 6 and a half years of combatting terrorism, we're no further along than we were on Sept 11, 2001. Perhaps its time to try a new approach."

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Wow. Just...wow. There were so many examples of utter ignorance on these messages, it was really hard to choose one (I particularly liked the nutbar who said "terrorists don't hate regular Westerners, they just hate rich people." -good freaking lord!)

In the end, I chose the above though, because it is so willfully ignorant of any basic knowledge on the subject of terrorism at all. The successes we have had in fighting terrorism have been monumental, and trust me, you only know of the tip of the iceberg. I know you'd like to know more, but then you, see the New York Times would feel it important to share that information and ruin both sources and methodology.

Feel free to post your ignorant ramblings. Just take a moment to thank those who are working tirelessly every day to make sure you can continue to do so.

No progress against terrorism....yeah, you wouldn't want to know that world, nimrod.

Lynn E, you B1tch,

Go suck a fat one, you trolling liar.

"Refusal to deal with terrorism?"

yeah, OK. Kinda like your refusal to deal with Reality?

Go Die. No human should be that stupid. Maybe you can have yourself ground into a mad cow burger, you retarded idiot.

Obama foiegn policy is:

Mr Danzig spelt out the need to change by reading a paragraph from chapter one of the children's classic, which says: "Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it."

Rudy should go back to the comb-over look. Sure, he looked ridiculous that way, but at least it distracted everyone from the nonsense he was spouting.

If you want the same like Bush, vote McCain or Obama. If you want to ruin America for your kids generations, vote McCain or Obama.

McSame Bush = John McCain
BushLite = Barak Obama

They can not even pass Economics 101 class, now you want to elect one of them for the President of Unites States.

You are definitely voting for "God Damn America" by your own choice.

kingofzouk?

Where is zouk? is that part of the constellation of pimples on McBush's A$$?

You're the King, Allright. King of A$$Licking, you trolling pervert.

I thought Rudy was too busy shaking down the GOP to help erease his millions of dollars in dept from his failed attempt at the White House. Also known as fun in the sun with my mistress, I mean former mistress.

Many experts agree that if John McW is elected, the world will catch fire and homosexuals will take to the streets looking to rape members of the same sex.

What are you going on about, you trolling, mindless Republican Stooge?

Capital gains? Stock Market?

Go Bush Your mother.

there must be a link directly from moveon.org, Daily Kos or huff post today. All the most extreme irrational liberal haters and mindless america-last buffoons are present here today.

Please don't bring up economics, foreign policy, taxes, facts, or any other actual issue. It only sends them into a frenzy,as you can readily observe.

Ghouliani is a Tooliani.

He got waxed in the Republican Primaries.

Sept. 11th is the best thing that ever happened to him and even the Republican Voters could see how he tried to profit from it and exploit it.

If he had done his job before 9-11-01, maybe NY wouldn't have lost 300 firefighters.

He's a typical pencil pushing a$$ kisser lawyer conservative lackey.

He's a shameless, gutless, weasel.

Perfect Running Mate for John McBush.

Oh, my God! Will Obama keep us safe from Bernie Kerik and angry ex-spouses?

McCain is sounding more like Bush every day. Ordinary people aren't the targets of terroristsd anyways. The wealthy gasbags and traders (traitors), you know, those jolly folk who speculated and manipulated the price of oil up to the present astronomical levels, the swine that offshore our jobs and technology, the crooks that award themselves multimillion dollar bonuses and loot our retirement accounts, the delussional frauds that ramrodded this country into Iraq for cheap oil, THEY are the targets of Al Qaida, they are the vermin that the Arab street detests and hates and wants dead, not us!
To be sure, we and our children have been used as pawns by these same self serving "elite" and our children have been maimed and killed. Innocents were on those airplanes that flew into the vermin nest, the World Trade Center, inhabited by the stock brokers and traders and bankers. There were a few other innocents there, too. But the ast majority of those targetted by the hijackers are far more evil and far more dangerous to the people of this country than any collection of Arab "terrorists".

"Many experts predict that Obama's higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains will crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.' "

Ok, let's see some evidence.

Jack wrote:
"But I read the same false arguments as before this war - how can so many people be dupe[d] ?"

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Well, Jack. It's because Republicans Lie a LOT.

This, combined with the stupidity of the American People, as a direct result of Conformist mindset, corporate controlled media, and sub-saharan education, leads to a bunch of retarded sheep who worry about flag pins and off-shore drilling while the rest of the world can't figure out why our President hasn't been arrested.

We Are Stupid.

That's Why.

Most everyone -- certainly McCain and Rudy