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Puerto Rico Primary Prediction Contest

Puerto Rico holds its Democratic presidential primary vote today -- one of only three contests remaining in the race between Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.)

For Fixistas, the dwindling number of primary votes means your opportunities for winning a coveted official Fix t-shirt are running out. (Never fear -- we are currently scheming about other contests by which to award shirts.)

Clinton, less than 24 hours removed from a startling rebuke from the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws arm, is favored to win Puerto Rico and the majority of its 55 pledged delegates today.

Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have campaigned aggressively there while Obama has largely ignored the state -- choosing instead to focus his time in potential general election battlegrounds.

Polling in the contest is sparse but what there is of it seems to show Clinton with a comfortable double-digit lead.

By now, you guys know the rules. Offer your order of finish (with percentages) in the comments section below. Closest to the pin wins a t-shirt. We also still want a prediction of what the storyline will be coming out of today's vote; tack that on after your order-of-finish prediction and double your chances of winning a Fix t-shirt.

Polling places close in Puerto Rico at 3 p.m. eastern time, so no predictions made after that time will be eligible. Also, you MUST make your prediction in the comments section for it to count. Any predictions emailed to the Fix will be ruled ineligible.

Go to it!

By Chris Cillizza |  June 1, 2008; 9:30 AM ET  | Category:  Eye on 2008
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Hillary damnit you're lying. You keep saying you help "the people" but when you had an opportunity to help people you turned on them and took the side of the Credit Card Companies. When you say these things it pisses me off because your lying just to say the words. How can you help people in Darfur when you are in debt. I am not in debt because i don't listen to you , McCain george, and diky or take any of you seriously. Just another politician now what how do you wiggle out?

Posted by: Brooke | June 3, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Truthfully, I would love to see Hillary run for President as an Independent. Better yet... start a new political party.

Posted by: DRPolitics1 | June 3, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

You are ignoring the fact they are all democrats. It is a democrat running against a democrat. The only question is how many would vote for McCain since Hillary is no longer in the race. The answer, very few. Only the nut cases who are voting for a candidate and not on issues or party may switch because they are angry. You can't do anything about that but the differences between hillary & obama compared to Mccain is huge. By November all this will be long forgotten and $6.00 a gallon gas and many more dead in Iraq, lost jobs will be the issues, not the petty squabbles you see now. Only a moron would hold on to those feelings against their own personal interest.

*****Then you are ignoring that Hispanics are unlikely to vote for a black candidate. Jews will not vote for a Muslim, nor will Catholics. Patriotic Americans will not vote for Obama after hearing the "goddamn America" speech by his 20 yr. Reverand, then another racist Rev. in the same church, and many white Americans will not vote for a polarizing racist black candidate. Obama has turned this into a racist nomination where 90% of blacks voted for the black candidate. Obama is a heavily flawed candidate. Voters will pick a 'safer' candidate with McCain. Too many red cards with Obama, too many reasons not to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Sal | June 2, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

You are ignoring the fact they are all democrats. It is a democrat running against a democrat. The only question is how many would vote for Mccain since Hillary is no longer in the race. The answer, very few. Only the nut cases who are voting for a candidate and not on issues or party may switch because they are angry. You can't do anything about that but the differences between hillary & obama compared to Mccain is huge. By November all this will be long forgotten and $6.00 a gallon gas and many more dead in Iraq, lost jobs will be the issues, not the petty squabbles you see now. Only a moron would hold on to those feelings against their own personal interest.

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You are ignoring they are all democrats.
I was just thinking that the candidate that gets the Hispanic vote and 50% of the white vote is the likely winner in any election. The black vote is not large enough to compete with the Hispanic vote. Clinton has the 50% white and about 80-100% Hispanic. So the Puerto Rico win is very symbolic and has far more weight than is thought. Superdelegates will take notice.
Posted by: Hmmmmm | June 1, 2008 5:44 PM

Posted by: voter | June 1, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking that the candidate that gets the Hispanic vote and 50% of the white vote is the likely winner in any election. The black vote is not large enough to compete with the Hispanic vote. Clinton has the 50% white and about 80-100% Hispanic. So the Puerto Rico win is very symbolic and has far more weight than is thought. Superdelegates will take notice.

Posted by: Hmmmmm | June 1, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Clinton landslide win in Puerto Rico

Clinton: 76%
Obama: 24%

Posted by: hmmmmm | June 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I would say that is true since they are not allowed to vote in the general election. Are you just an idiot or you haven't even been paying any attention at all to this?

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clinton wins
all hillary voters in pr will not vote for obama in november, crushing his hopes

Posted by: pvogel88 | June 1, 2008 4:33 PM

Posted by: voter | June 1, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

clinton wins
all hillary voters in pr will not vote for obama in november, crushing his hopes

Posted by: pvogel88 | June 1, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Chris


The Rules Committee would have never taken this action cutting the delegates if the states involved had large Black Communities

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Chris


The Rules Committee would have never taken this action cutting the delegates if the states involved had large Black Communities

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that the NET EFFECT of this ruling is to DIMINISH THE VOTING STRENGTH OF WHITE VOTERS


Chris you may disagree now - however someday you will realize what is going on.


Last summer this rules committee voted to EXCEED its authority and penalize Michigan and Florida 100% - this was done in full knowledge that it would dilute the strength of WHITE VOTERS.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE DELEGATE TOTALS - come on - THIS WAS A SET UP.

THERE IS NO ACCIDENT THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS BROKE THE WAY THEY DID - THERE IS NO ACCIDENT THAT THE DEMOCRATS DIMINISHED THE WHITE VOTING STRENGTH.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 56
Obama 44

28 percent turnout. A report of vote fraud in district 07.

Posted by: mdiogu | June 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The RESULT is that 183 delegates from mostly WHITE states have vanished.

Hillary nets 24 delegates - HOWEVER if the delegations were fully seated it would have been a net of perhaps 56


BUT remember the Superdelegates were also halved -


That cuts off opportunities for Hillary to catch up - a total of 183 delegates vanished into thin air when one includes the Superdelegates.


Then they used fantasy numbers to give Obama delegates based NOT ON VOTES - and based on WRITE IN BALLOTS THAT WERE NEVER EVEN READ TO SEE WHOSE NAME WAS ON THE BALLOT.


I hate to say it, but it appears that this sort of stuff is OK when it benefits a BLACK candidate against a WHITE candidate -however, if this benefited a WHITE candidate against a BLACK candidate, these kind of actions would never be considered.


I seriously DO NOT believe that this result would have been tolerated IF BLACK VOTING STRENGTH HAD BEEN DIMINISHED BY 183 DELEGATES.


One must think about it.


THE RESULT IS STILL THAT 183 DELEGATES FROM WHITE STATES HAVE VANISHED - SO THE NET AFFECT IS TO INCREASE THE BLACK VOTING STRENGTH AND DIMINISH THE WHITE VOTING STRENGTH -


IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE ONLY WAY A BLACK CANDIDATE COULD HAVE WON.


ONE MUST FIND THE VOTE OF THE RULES COMMITTEE TO HAVE A DE FACTO RACIST EFFECT - AND ONE MUST FIND THE RESULTS RACIST AGAINST WHITES.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | June 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

HRC: 58.9%
Obama: 34.2

Puerto Rican win ensures Clinton continues fight for nomination

Ole'

Posted by: cater2me | June 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 53
Obama 47

Clinton claims popular vote win and better ability to connect with latino voters.
Obama congratulates her on the win then pivots to rolling out enough superdelegates to go over the top with a win in Montana Tuesday night.

Bigger story... political junkies prepare for withdrawl symptoms after the last primary on the 3rd!

Posted by: HP in NJ | June 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Poor Clinton supporters, you wasted all that time hating Barak Obama and a few of you even donated a little time and money.

Now you have to threaten to join another losing campaign, threaten to vote for the next nasty, senile cardboard cut out McRepublican, the next Republican National Committee mouthpiece. You will do it, just to reassure yourselves that you will teach us a lesson. It is you that need to learn your lessons.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Why Hillary should and could never be our president. Not even VP. A good read.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/07/clinton200807

Posted by: truth | June 1, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday's outbursts were ridiculous. Both candidates agreed to the rules prior to the primary season starting. Where was Clinton's concern for FL and MI then? Then, when it benefits her, she changes her mind? Then, when a compromise which allows recognition for half the result (which worked fine on the Republican side), going against the agreement both candidates signed up for at the beginning, it's still not enough?Z Then, in Michigan, where Obama's name wasn't even on the ticket, Harold Ickes argues that he shouldn't be awarded any delegates?

"Only Votes for Us Count!"

Posted by: minor thread | June 1, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton, less than 24 hours removed from a startling rebuke from the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws arm, is favored to win Puerto Rico and the majority of its 55 pledged delegates today.

Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have campaigned aggressively there while Obama has largely ignored the state -- choosing instead to focus his time in potential general election battlegrounds."

Huh?

The STATE???????????????????????????????
Only as in "Free Associated State" not as in "United States."

Posted by: Puh-leeze | June 1, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

clinton 57.2% obama39% 2.8 other

Posted by: william | June 1, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama - 51%
Clinton - 49%

Turnout 400,000

Posted by: Sara | June 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 50%
Obama - 49%

low turnout ( 320, 000)

Posted by: Max | June 1, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Ding, dong, the witch is dead... but let's burn down Oz anyway, just for fun."

--Me

Posted by: HillaryClinton | June 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Result
Clinton-73
Obama-27

Storyline: Clinton gets landslide victory in territory- still not enough to close delegate gap.

Posted by: sfcpoll | June 1, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Clinton : 58.3%
Obama :41.7%

Clinton argues for the nomination on the flawed basis that she's winning the popular vote.

Posted by: jr1886 | June 1, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Clinton : 58.3%
Obama :41.7%

Clinton argues for the nomination on the flawed basis that she's winning the popular vote.

Posted by: Junior | June 1, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I have not read through all of the comments, they are more predictable than the primary results, but really Chris, you are as bad as Barack calling Puerto Rico a state!

HRC 59
BHO 40

Story line: Hillary wins meaningless contest in PR. All eyes on BO in Minneapolis.

Posted by: smartinsen | June 1, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Clinton : 58.3%

Obama :41.7%


Clinton argues for the nomination on the flawed basis that she's winning the popular vote.

Posted by: jr1886 | June 1, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: Zero

Obama: Zero

Uncommitted: Zero

Headline: bsimon Wins Fix T-shirt for No Prediction in an Election that Means Nothing!

Posted by: Vienna Voter | June 1, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Words of Wisdom,

Affirmative action? You sound like Geraldine Ferraro. For more analysis click link below:
http://the-independent13.blogspot.com/2008/05/prejudice-discrimination-and-racism-in_17.html

Posted by: TA | June 1, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 56
Obama 44

Posted by: Dave Homuth | June 1, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

We don't.

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clinton 56.4
obama 43.6

why do we care when puerto rico has no electoral votes in the general election...cant have it both ways - but that seems to be what the clinton campaign keeps trying - changing the rules and moving the goal posts...as donna brazille said, its called cheating

Posted by: steven | June 1, 2008 1:25 PM

Posted by: truth | June 1, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

When did they become a state?

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Clinton 67%
Obama 33%

Clinton "have campaigned aggressively there while Obama has largely ignored the state". This is true! Mr. Obama came to PR for 22 hours and that was all. While Mrs. Clinton and tour the Island,talk personally with the voters, and have come to know the Islands needs.

Posted by: Luis E Lao | June 1, 2008 1:26 PM

Posted by: What? | June 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

HRC: 62%
BO: 38%

HRC scores big in Puerto Rico. Expected victory lends little fuel to the Clinton camp's popular vote fire.

Posted by: Lyon in NC | June 1, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63.1%
Obama 36.2%

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Clinton wins the race by a landslide and declares herself the Governor of Puerto Rico

Posted by: BlueDevil | June 1, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63, Obama 37

More important than the result is the anticipation of the end of the contest Tuesday or Wednesday.

Posted by: pnm4 | June 1, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 57.3%
Obama 42.7%

The media will likely say that Hillary's win in PR will not help her close in on Obama's significant delegate lead. The Hillary camp will use her strong showing here to bolster her electability case to the uncommitted superdelegates.

Posted by: briggsan | June 1, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama 49%
Edwards (Others) 4%
Clinton 47%

Posted by: Salomon | June 1, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

57-43 clinton-obama
Hillary wins again but hints at conceding.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 68%
Obama 32%

Clinton adds Puerto Rico like a pirate, adding it to her bounty. Puerto Rico is more like Treasure Island to this bunch.

Posted by: Emily | June 1, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 55%
Obama 42%


Posted by: alex rossdeutsch | June 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Puerto Rico is not a state.

Posted by: ragrot | June 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 60%
Obama 40%

Storyline:

Obama picks up 22 delegates, now only 44 from nomination.

Posted by: CK | June 1, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

clinton 56.4
obama 43.6

why do we care when puerto rico has no electoral votes in the general election...cant have it both ways - but that seems to be what the clinton campaign keeps trying - changing the rules and moving the goal posts...as donna brazille said, its called cheating

Posted by: steven | June 1, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 67%
Obama 33%

Clinton "have campaigned aggressively there while Obama has largely ignored the state". This is true! Mr. Obama came to PR for 22 hours and that was all. While Mrs. Clinton and tour the Island,talk personally with the voters, and have come to know the Islands needs.

Posted by: Luis E Lao | June 1, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

clinton 56.4
obama 43.6

why do we care when puerto rico has no electoral votes in the general election...cant have it both ways - but that seems to be what the clinton campaign keeps trying - changing the rules and moving the goal posts...as donna brazille said, its called cheating

Posted by: steven | June 1, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Puerto Rico:

60.5% Clinton
39.5% Obama

Storyline:

"Clinton claims popular vote win and vows to continue as she is the strongest candidate against McCain. Obama ignores Clinton and focuses his attention and fire on McCain."

Posted by: Mustafa Hirji | June 1, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 56
Obama 45
101% sounds crazy but elections and father's day is confusion day in P.R.

Posted by: J.moreno | June 1, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton: 55%
Barack Obama: 45%

Storyline: A win is not a win; Barack one step closer to victory.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 58%
Obama 42%

Clinton Wins Puerto Rico; Obama one step closer to nomination

Posted by: TA | June 1, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

After reading the Huffington Post yesterday, I concur with the following:

Obama/Sutherland '08!!

Posted by: Pixie Lee in O.C. | June 1, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 61
Obama 39

Storyline: Clinton continues to claim lead in the popular vote after PR win, but the DNC's FL/MI deal may have sealed her fate.

Posted by: crodolfa | June 1, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 69%
Obama 28%

Posted by: Ben Weagraff | June 1, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 55%
Obama: 42%

Posted by: BayHawk | June 1, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 56.7%
Obama - 43.3%

Obama's victories in Montana and S. Dakota next Tuesday leave him just shy of the finish line. Super delegates push him over by Saturday, just in time for Wolf Blitzer to produce a snappy new Obama v. McCain graphic for his Sunday show.

Posted by: Patrick | June 1, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Early reporting is turn out is SO LOW, Obama may actually pull out a win.

Posted by: Hillary who? | June 1, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

69.5% HRC
30.5% BO

Posted by: julie | June 1, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

With what, she doesn't have a dime. She has been only doing stops she could do for free at senior centers and other free venues. She has been done for weeks.

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zephyr99: "In light of yesterday's lame reformulation of the the Michigan and Florida primary results by the DNC (and following a likely double-digit win Puerto Rico), the time is right for Hillary to throw down the gauntlet. Announce a third party candidacy!"
Posted by: zepher99 | June 1, 2008 12:06 PM

Posted by: get real | June 1, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Chris

You heard Rob Johnson yesterday, clearly stating that the primary calendar was MOTIVATED BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION - that New Hampshire and Iowa were "TOO WHITE"
The entire dispute with Michigan and Florida has as it root that there is a perception that Michigan and Florida are TOO WHITE.

The entire discussion is based on RACE.


When Michigan and Florida decided that they would not go along with the AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PLAN - they were stripped of 100% of their delegates - BELIEVE ME THEY KNEW THEY WERE DIMINISHING THE WHITE VOTING STRENGTH WITH THAT ACTION - AND INCREASING THE BLACK VOTING STRENGTH WHEN THEY TOOK AWAY THE DELEGATES LAST SUMMER.

Chris - seriously.

I can not say with greater clarity what has happened here - we have a proces of electing a President - which has now been HIJACKED BY THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PEOPLE. You might not believe it, but it is true.

.

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | June 1, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 57.3%
Obama 42.7%

The media will likely say that this does not help Hil's chances much in closing in on Obama's significant delegate lead. The Hillary camp will use her strong showing in Puerto Rico to bolster her electability case to the remaining uncommitted superdelegates.

Posted by: briggsan | June 1, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I predict that Puerto Rico is not a state!

Posted by: progressive9 | June 1, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

zephyr99: "In light of yesterday's lame reformulation of the the Michigan and Florida primary results by the DNC (and following a likely double-digit win Puerto Rico), the time is right for Hillary to throw down the gauntlet. Announce a third party candidacy!"
Posted by: zepher99 | June 1, 2008 12:06 PM
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I don't think this will work out well because George Wallace and Curtis LeMay are not available as veep candidates. Maybe she can try David Duke? Any more suggestions? Help the white woman out here guys!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | June 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 55
Obama: 44

Storyline: Clinton's PR victory is overshadowed by the threat of her taking her fight to the convention

Posted by: theseventen | June 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama 51%
Clinton 49%

Really, Obama needs to win the DNC nomination.

Posted by: Craig in Amsterdam | June 1, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

HRC 51, BHO 49


Turnout will be very low, which could produce a surprise victory for Obama or a much tighter than expected HRC pyrrhic victory.

Posted by: JDugas | June 1, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

61 Clinton
39 Obama

Hillary begins working on the concession speexh she will deliver Tuesday night.

Posted by: marylandlegal | June 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Bill spent too much time in Puerto Rico. The people got to know them and didn't like what they saw. In a surprising low turnout of less than 500,000 voters:

Obama 53%-Hillary 47%.

Headline: Obama Finds New Church

Posted by: Frank | June 1, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Watch this video, we have all seen it. And then look what she is doing and now for someone who said the things on that video. To let her supports vote for Mccain, she must really be a monster. I do care about this country, a lot more then any one candidate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq9wAHk-S_A

Posted by: thinker | June 1, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON 58.5
OBAMA 41.5

CLINTON WINS BIG BUT UNLIKELY TO DERAIL OBAMA FROM NOMINATION

Posted by: JIM IN TALLAHASSEE JG1520@AOL.COM | June 1, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Bottomline,Chris, you called Puerto Rico a state? How about at least a correction. And then you can explain to me why Puerto Rico even has 55 delegates when as a territory, it will play no role in November.

Posted by: Robert | June 1, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 55%
Obama 40%

It's just amazing how selfish Clinton and her supporters are, by the way. You're not the majority, and this is a representative democracy, remember? If you "lose", accept it and try again next time around.

Of course, all these Clinton whiners sound just like all the Dems who said they've move to Canada if Bush won in 2000/2004. How many actually left? I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins to move, personally.

Clintonites, you need to stick with your party, and I hope Hillary has enough good sense to instruct you to do so. Otherwise, you have no grounds for whining if *you* elect McCain.

That will guarantee Hillary doesn't win the nomination in 2012, by the way. Because every Dem nominee candidate four years from now will remind everyone WHY McCain got elected in the first place, and you will be liked less then than you are now.

Posted by: Michigan Sam | June 1, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

As there has been really no movement in two polls, one dating back to early April and one in May, I am assuming that there is going to be still a 13 point difference between the two candidates.
Factoring in the heavy work put in by the Clintons in the island these past weeks, I will guess:

Clinton 55%
Obama 40%

Posted by: Nonoy of MD | June 1, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Did The Fix really call Puerto Rico a "state?" Good God! Is there no one left in what passes for daily journalism who really knows anything, let alone who reads over what he or she types?

But "typos" aside, three points:
First, Obama would have to be an idiot to campaign in Puerto Rico, a territory whose citizens are not permitted to vote in U.S. Presidential elections - who, besides the Clintonistas, cares which candidate the people of Puerto Rico would like to vote for IF they could vote?
Second, after watching the Mad Women of Clintonia perform yesterday, I never want to hear another Clinton supporter tell me that the only reason Obama has done so well is that he's gotten 90 percent of the black vote because blacks have blindly voted for him. Voted blindly out of tribal loyalty? Hello? Can you say "White Woman Over Fifty?"
Finally, no one, and I mean no one, who can say that he or she will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination, should be considered a Democrat, a liberal, or anything other than a Right Wing Republican who for some inexplicable reason loves Hillary Clinton. There not only isn't the proverbial dime's worth of difference between the policies supported by Clinton and Obama, there isn't a penny's worth.

Posted by: HeadScratcher | June 1, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 36

Clinton's lopsided victory gives her a chance to take a final victory lap before bowing out (not so?) gracefully late this week.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

C 56, O 44
Lower than expected turnout in PR dashes Clinton's hopes for a popular vote majority.

Posted by: michael andrre | June 1, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 52
Obama - 48

Clinton wins PR, however, not enough to win Party nomination. Clintons pledge to unite Democratic Party.

Posted by: Terrell Danley | June 1, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Headline:
Hillary, Bill and Chelsea 300% in Puerto Rico secures 50%...ouch, not a good ROI

Posted by: lambs | June 1, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama 50%
Clinton 48%

Puerto rico tells Obama "Te amo!"

Posted by: phix-in-philly | June 1, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

In light of yesterday's lame reformulation of the the Michigan and Florida primary results by the DNC (and following a likely double-digit win Puerto Rico), the time is right for Hillary to throw down the gauntlet. Announce a third party candidacy!

Posted by: zephyr99 | June 1, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

HRC 59
BHO 41

Commonwealth with no vote in any national American election holds utterly meaningless popularity poll. Low turnout reflects Puerto Rican disdain for utter vapidity.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | June 1, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 54
Obama 46

Posted by: Stephen in NC | June 1, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

After Tuesday don't expect to see Hillary's name even in the news anymore. Her press core have not signed on to follower her around anymore, she will no longer be news. Her supporters will have to resign themselves to the Hillary blogs that sound like something being run by Jim Jones. They are nuts. I can't believe they were calling Obama supporters "Kool aid drinkers". They are like mindless zombies. Obama supporters are smart, educated, free thinking voters.

interesting reading
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/06/01/013330

Posted by: reality | June 1, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 66%
Obama: 34%

Clinton wins and immediately says she is now winning the popular vote; Superdelegates seem unmoved and continue to trickle Obama's way.

Posted by: BBlacklow | June 1, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I need the T- Shirt

My Puerto Rican crystal ball(probably made in China) says... HRC-67 BO- 33

Posted by: mitch kaplan | June 1, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 58.5%
Obama 41.5%

Clinton wins PR Primary to Bolster her Popular Vote Fantasy Nomination Argument

Posted by: Yank1082 | June 1, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55
Obama 44

Expected Clinton win changes nothing, as Obama continues general election campaigning and the media concentrates on Saturday's ruling on Florida and Michigan.

Posted by: jcscott | June 1, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Hillary is telling all the mixed race people in Puerto Rico how she is fighting for the hardworking white people?

Posted by: majorteddy | June 1, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I am respectfully abstaining from predicting the winner in PR. Why do they like her so much down there?

Posted by: johng1 | June 1, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 60.5
Obama 38.5

She will have a rightful claim to the popular vote but will drop out of the race on by next Sunday.


OBAMA SHOULD NAME HER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 57
Obama: 43

Despite being virtually assured of the nomination after the DNC ruling, questions linger about Obama's ability to win Latinos in November.

Posted by: Jake in DC | June 1, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 57%
Obama 43%

Turnout less than 700,000

Clinton wins PR primary with ease but small turn-out reduces delegate haul and hurts overall popular vote argument

Posted by: rgg56 | June 1, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55%
Obama 45%

Obama performs slightly better than expected in a primary no one is paying attention to. Focus is on the week to come and whether Clinton is going to concede after Tuesday or carry the fight to Denver.

Posted by: Chris | June 1, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 51
Obama 39

Hillary's last stand. SupderDelegats put Obama on the verge of the nomination before June 3rd. Obama becomes presumptive nominee getting to 2,118 with Montana and South Dakota.

Posted by: Noah | June 1, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 57
Obama 42

Posted by: Karen H. | June 1, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Chris: What was Clinton's "startling rebuke by the Democratic National Committee" yesterday? They awarded both states the maximum number of delegates allowable under their own rules and agreed that both primaries were hopelessly flawed. These were the rules to which every candidate previously agreed. What else could they have done besides deny both states the right to participate and alienate the Democratic voters in MI and FL in November? Maybe I didn't get the memo. Clinton wins by 11-12 points in Puerto Rico and the territory adopts the DC bumper sticker slogan, "Taxation Without Representation."

Posted by: maxfli | June 1, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 56.7%
Obama 43.3%

Despite Ickes' threat and Clinton's PR victory, she gracefully exits the race after losing Tuesday's contests.

Posted by: polynerd | June 1, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 63
Obama 37

The resounding victory in PR (regardless of the actual numbers) is further proof that HRC has won the popular vote.

This, along with the disenfranchisement of voters in MI and FL, contributes to the narrative that she has to take the campaign to the convention floor.

Team Clinton cannot allow a latte-sipping elite, misogynist press and party insiders to over-rule the will of the people. This is a bedrock principle of democracy.

Further, HRC is clearly the best candidate with widespread support among older women, Hispanics and hard-working, white, blue collar workers, the backbone of the Democratic Party.

On to the convention and even the inauguration ceremony if necessary since whoever's hand is on the Bible is the next President.

Posted by: Edward Murray | June 1, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 57.325 (32 delegates)
Obama 41.125 (23 delegates)

Obama will be 45 delegates away from clinching the nomination, 103 delegates from withstanding a fight over Michigan's delegates. After getting a taste of national politics Puerto Rico will hold another plebiscite on statehood within the next two years and set the ball rolling towards actually becoming a state.

Posted by: Jonathan Clark | June 1, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama 51.3%
Clinton 48.7%

Obama nails Hillary's coffin shut with an upset victory.

Posted by: Jeff in San Jose | June 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55
Obama 45

Harold Ickes doesn't notice his candidate taking a needed double-digit win because he's still demagoguing to anyone who will listen.

Posted by: David Blaylock | June 1, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Clinton 54,3%
Mr. Obama 44,9%

Posted by: Daphne | June 1, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Clinton - 60.9%
Obama - 38.2%

Size of Clinton's victory prevents Obama from being able to declare that he is over the top in delegates on Tuesday

Posted by: cferry3124@aol.com | June 1, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

clinton 59 Obama 41

Posted by: raul | June 1, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Clinton----- 57%
Obama-----43%

Posted by: you can bet on it | June 1, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 62%
Obama 38%
Big win is too little, too late. Clinton claims victory is proof conclusive that she's the Democrat to beat McCain, has "energized" to go the distance, "until the last superdelegate has weighed in. Denies that she's delusional. Clinton supporters organize round-the-clock demonstrations outside uncommitted superdelegates' homes.

Posted by: G0rd0nL | June 1, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 65
Obama 35

Voters in PR celebrate people caring about what they think about U.S. presidential politics, then quickly recede into the background for another several decades.

Also, Clinton lamely celebrates "popular vote" victory. It's the DELEGATES, stupid! OBAMA!! '08

Posted by: Ed | June 1, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Obama 41.6
Clinton 58.4

Sen. Clinton continues to claim that she is the only true Democrat that can win the big States and announces that she is going to take the race all the way to November as the candidate of the American Democratic party.

Mainstream democrats run from Sen. Clinton in droves and Obama locks up the nomination.

Posted by: Refuses to Leave | June 1, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 61.5 percent
Obama 38.5 percent

Too little too late

Posted by: MJ | June 1, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64%
Obama 36%

Clinton declares that her campaign will continue to the Convention because she is clearly the winner of the popular vote. The crowd thins, reportrs begin to look around and then drift away, Hillary continues speaking with increasing volume, proclaiming "No! Wait -- Where are you going? Come back! I won. Don't you understand? Come Back! Pay attention to me!" The workmen come in and begin to breakdown the stage and fold the chairs. Hillary looks to them and shouts - voice cracking -- I'm the winner, don't you get it. The workers glance at her and smile -- they do not speak English.

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | June 1, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

clinton - 54%
obama - 46%

Posted by: GDB | June 1, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It is disgraceful that native-born American citizens that are denied Congressional and Presidential votes would lend themselves to this shameful example of snake oil salesmanship by Presidential contenders. The least Puertoricans should do is send a strong message of protest by not voting in this farce.

Posted by: Lionel Roger | June 1, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 61%
Obama 38%

Storyline: Clinton's march toward dropping out of the race continues, unabated by her huge victory in Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Shattenjager | June 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 55.2%
Obama: 43.7%

Puerto Rico results get lost in the Sunday news cycle, and overshadowed by the Tuesday primaries. Any coverage they do receive is focused on them being an inconsequential, "moral" victory for Clinton, and a reminder of how much work Obama has to do to catch up with the popularity and familiarity of the Clintons within the Democratic electorate.

Posted by: scrapster in MA | June 1, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Alternate Headline:

After big win, Clinton claims that only she can win the States that don't get a vote in the general election...

Posted by: Boutan | June 1, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 57%
Obama 43%

Turnout: Less than 700,000

Clinton gets impressive win in Puerto Rico but light turn-out hurts her delegate haul and her overall popular vote claim.

Posted by: rgg56 | June 1, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 56 percent
Obama 44 percent

Clintonites and their parrots in the MSM use the win to declare that Obama has a Puerto Rican problem that will hurt him in the general and that only she can win big states (sic) like Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Greg in LA | June 1, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

64% Clinton
36% Obama

First, it's a commonwealth, not a state. Second, Clinton will use this victory as a platform to declare that she has won the popular vote, totally ignoring the fact that the Democratic nomination and the general election are both won on delegate/electoral counts, not by the popular vote and totally glossing over the fact that PR has no electoral votes.

Posted by: Christopher in PA | June 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 62%
Obama (aka ukulele): 36%

Ricky Martin swings election to Hillary Clinton with big landslide win in Puerto Rico. "Livin La Vida Loca" album is on top chart again.

Posted by: YesWeCanForFree | June 1, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Clinton--62
Obama--35

Clinton wins Puerto Rico; major superdelegate endorses Obama.

Posted by: Mike in Raleigh | June 1, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 57.5%
Obama 42.5%

By which point, she must be praying for that moment when she no longer has to swig out of a bottle whenever she finds herself in a bar.

Posted by: David, London | June 1, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 60
Obama 40

Clinton campaigns in official fix t-shirt to convince undecided political junkies in Montana.

Posted by: John Bessey | June 1, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

clinton 54%
Obama 45%

When PR declares that they are a nation, Ms Clinton can be the first prime minister.

Till then, the fat lady is singing

Posted by: pvogel88 | June 1, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 51%
Obama 48%

Everyone's going with the obvious - trusting in the polls, but those polls were all taken before Obama visited the island. Throw in the Obama advert where he addresses the PR citizens directly, and the fact that they have far less to gain by making a WV or Kentucky statement on race and I'm seeing this much closer.

Posted by: Nate in Portland, OR | June 1, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 53%
Obama 47%

Light turnout gives Clinton narrow victory.

Posted by: midnightmail | June 1, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Chris - When did Puerto Rico become a state? At any rate, with all due respect, Puerto Rico doesn't matter in the general election so this will be a Pyrrhic victory for Senator Clinton.

Posted by: gwc_67 | June 1, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 62
Obama 38

Headline: No one has ever won the presidency without winning Puerto Rico, the very Clintonian definition of a "swing state".

Posted by: P Diddy | June 1, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 41

Headline: Clinton wins Puerto Rico, but Obama rolls out Supers on his final drive to victory.

Posted by: Boutan | June 1, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 42

Clinton's popular vote edge puts her over the top in total votes...viva Presidente Clinton!!!!

Posted by: Ellen8 | June 1, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

clinton 55
obama 45

even though hillary wins big in p.r. the win came too little too late and the campaign will be done on wed. or thurs.

Posted by: laceykk23 | June 1, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Chris, Obama "has ignored the state (sic)" because he is battling John McCain for the Presidency. McCain will do very well with Latinos and Hispanics right? Wrong.

Are you MsSame people really going to make the case that the country is on the right track? You want this senile, wholly owned mouthpiece of the Republican National Committee to push the Bush/Cheney program for four more years?

Well the great majority of us are going to work very hard to prove that not only is Obama electable, we are going to crush you.
The Clinton victory was the hard part. You have nothing.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 56 percent
Obama 44 percent

Clintonites and their parrots in the MSM use the win to declare that Obama has a Puerto Rican problem that will hurt him in the general and that only she can win big states (sic) like Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Greg in LA | June 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

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