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By Tom Toles

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Friday rant: party games edition
Well, then, and there is is! President Obama's deficit reduction commission, established by Democrats over the objection and obstruction of Republicans, has just put out it's first draft of unpopular proposals. One the one hand, the usual chorus of wails and objections and denunciations has begun. Obama will take a hit on this and again be blamed for trying to move the ball forward in the face of political risks on every side.

ON THE OTHER hand, it has turned Tea Party politics around entirely. Long associated with the GOP, Tea Party activists from around the country have rallied swiftly and solidly behind the Obama administration's efforts on this. "We said this was the number one danger to the Republic and demanded action. And now we see who is really on our side and providing some leadership when no one else would", was a typical response to the commission's early report. "He is out front on this and we are there for him, giving him public support and some political cover on this issue so important to us and our nation," a major Tea Party organization said in a press release.

Now, ONE of the above paragraphs is true. Can you guess which one? Why not the second one? Could it just possibly be that the Tea Party ISN'T really about what it says it is, after all? --Tom Toles
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By Tom Toles  | November 12, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
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replace metro escalators with slides going down and big slingshots going up.
Posted by: billybeer6

My Reply...
That sounds like a classic sociopathic Republican solution. No concern for human life and a nitwit solution.
The Republicans make Scrooge (before his epiphany of goodness) seem more Christlike than Mother Terrisa.

Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 12, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

replace metro escalators with slides going down and big slingshots going up.

Posted by: billybeer6 | November 12, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Toles a bit of a partisan? Such an accusation. Let me see... That would be the pot calling the kettle?

On the other hand, is Toles incorrect on the facts? Is he "lying?" Or "spinning?" Is the truth that, contrary to what Toles implies, the modern Tea Party supports doing whatever it takes to reduce the deficit? Hmmm....

And, yes. Obama is being criticized by the Left on this.
Oh, but how can that be? Obama being an extreme-Left-wing-Socialist ideologue, is he being criticized by the Left for being TOO Left? Actually not. Which must mean he's NOT really that much of a Lefty at all, but then all the other arguments sound hollow.

Oh, what to do... what to do...

Posted by: jonroesler | November 12, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

We all know that the Republicans and the Tea Party are out to stop Obama from doing _anything_. They are totally uninterested in what's best for this country. Their talk of deficit reduction was nonsense, and most of us saw through it from the beginning. Most of our debt occurred during Reagan, Bush 41, and the unrepentant and clueless Bush 43. Certainly the Democrats should have done everything in their power to prevent the increase in debt during, but I would not want a federal government paralyzed by gridlock.

The problem is not deficits in the short term...they are almost certainly necessary to help with the economic recovery. And massive cuts in spending right now may severely damage our already slow economic recovery. It's the long term deficits that are the problem. The Republicans will (try to) prevent the necessary tax increases. The Democrats need to get their act together now on taxing and spending, for the near term and the long term...they are the best hope for fiscal responsibility. And Obama needs to fight for the policies he believes in, rather than acting as a spectator.

As an aside...the Republicans say that, if they can't repeal the Obama Health care reforms, they will deprive the IRS of funds necessary to enforce the regulations that are part of those reforms. In short, the Republicans will enable companies to break the law. When have they done differently? From Nixon on, given any opportunity, the Republicans have acted as thugs.

Posted by: ptgrunner | November 12, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Tom,

I think the comission's ideas are a good start, however, I believe they blew it on "simplifying the tax code". Eliminate the income tax completely. Go to a European style VAT but without the income tax. The rich spend more than the poor and middle class right? So the tax burden should fall on the rich more than the poor and middle class, correct? Eliminate the yearly ritual of filing tax returns, although that will kill the tax preparer industry (oh, so sad) and could result in streamlining the IRS (note: I did not say ELIMINATE the IRS, that will never happen, we do need that agency) and removing any more needs for average folks for being audited. I can see nothing but winning situations for the average person with the VAT. The trick is that Congress would need to stick to eliminating the income tax and not have an income tax AND a VAT, like the Europeans have (except for a temporary transition period of a year or two, in that case it should be a flat, lowered income tax alongside the full VAT).

Posted by: ATrueChristian | November 12, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

But the proposal is a big tax increase (100 billion a year mainly on the middle class) and would balance the budget in 30 YEARS by 2040 !!! these are the facts as reported by the Wash Post an NY times.
Posted by: dalyplanet

My Proposal...
Establish a Superfund the same way that was done after the Second World War (when many nations were in shambles) to pay off our national debt and cover the cost to stabilize our economy and repair our infra-structure.
The Superfund would come from the same place that all other monitary systems come from; FINANCIAL NECESSITY.


Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 12, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The one thing NOONE WILL EVER SEE in this mickey mouse commission report is lifting the cap on social security to where every dollar of income us subject to have social security withheld whether it's a dollar of income or ten beillion dollars of income.

The $106,000.00 cap on social security is juts one more way the rich get a free WELFARE ride on the backs of the working class and working poor.

Posted by: thomas_pearson46 | November 12, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

As for the little paragraph test, Tommy boy... that was a no-brainer. Of course, both have the lib spin, so in reality , neither is really true. This house of cards is about to come down and BHO is just doubling down... all part of the ultimate plan to stress the system and when it collapses... come in and "save it"...

Posted by: Shrimper | November 12, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Funny. A lot of paranoid left-wingers consider the "starve the beast" a strategy of the far-right.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | November 12, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, folks , but this whole "deficit reduction commission" is a farce. It's another example of EVERYONE in that friggin` town taking NO RESPONSIBILITY or exercising ANY leadership. "We're just following the Commission's recommendations..", they'll say. Gutless frauds; every one of them. My lack of confidence in EITHER SIDE on this spending/deficit issue is off the charts.

As for the little paragraph test, Tommy boy... that was a no-brainer. Of course, both have the lib spin, so in reality , neither is really true. This house of cards is about to come down and BHO is just doubling down... all part of the ultimate plan to stress the system and when it collapses... come in and "save it"...

Posted by: Shrimper | November 12, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if the debt commission has anything at all, in their initial findings about the single most expensive endeavor the government has undertaken in the last decade. You remember, right? I'll give you a minute...

Give up? War and the "Defense" Department. (I put it in quotations because I don't classify what they do as "defense".) So, is this where you want most of your tax dollars to go? Afghanistan? Iraq? Much of it is being used to pay insurgents and Taliban to NOT attack us, which they then turn around and use as a bribe. "Well, you need to pay us more or we'll attack you tomorrow." I'm not making this up. If you read any real journalsim from non-embedded journalists who put their lives in danger making their way around that country, you'll hear a more realistic telling of what's going on over there. And for what?

Much like Rome, our Empire is stretching itself way too thin, with bases in parts of the world we don't even know about. It's time to spend money on real necessities and progressive policies, and not continually think that we can kill every bad guy in the world. Last I checked, we haven't wiped out New York City because some criminals that do bad things live there. Why do we feel it necessary to do that abroad...wiping out whole countries because there are a few bad guys there?

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | November 12, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Don't the Metro's escalators work like stairs when they are turned off? Or are the brakes THAT bad?

Posted by: Rudesan | November 12, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Metro cartoon? Very apt. They do need to fix the escalators or put in stairs and elevators to replace them.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | November 12, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Not only have they put out a good combination of spending cuts and tax deductions closed, but it lets the parties decide to either "put up or shut up." I think if we have such a serious problem with spending we ought to have such serious solutions. Give up the tax deduction for homes over $500,000 and second vacation homes. Make Social Security sound again.

Do the right thing and do it now!!

Or raise taxes.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | November 12, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Maybe their anger is a blacklash over having a black president and the our country's movement toward gay rights.

Posted by: Ontheotherhand100 | November 12, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

The graf that's true is the one that will upset the Apostrophe Protection Society.

Posted by: KevPod | November 12, 2010 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Why garsh, we'll close the budget by lowering taxes! More tea?

Posted by: will12 | November 12, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The usual suspects in this case railing against the commission seem to be coming more form the left who are fuming at the thought of cutting entitlement spending.

Posted by: SharpshootingPugilist | November 11, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: We're gonna have to cut spending AND raise taxes. I don't think the right's gonna appreciate that second part.

Or maybe they'll be all quiet about it I guess we'll just wait and see. So far however, I see little "fuming," or "railing," for that matter, from either side. But if it makes you feel superior to take every chance to try to insult and degrade the nameless, faceless "them" you happen to disagree with politically, by all means, continue to do so.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | November 11, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

In defense of Tom, dlowell63, the is is is appropriate for what's he's saying. Now for it's, it is as it is and as far as I'm concerned it is is.

It's like the Murkowski thing in Alaska. Those folks up there know their (they're) voting for her.

Tom is providing a service...let's us support him!

Posted by: quiensabe | November 11, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Tom. 2 typos in the 1st paragraph?!? First the "is is" and then the dreaded "it's". Yeah, I am dragging a bit too, post-election, but still...

Posted by: dlowell63 | November 11, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

How come no tax on Wall Street's ability to do speculative trades? Weren't those bozos responsible for this big mess?

Posted by: duke5 | November 11, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Amen brother

This is in idea we ALL can get behind, both sides of the aisle. This is a loophole in the tax code big enough to drive a train through.

Why didn't the commission think of this.

Posted by: dalyplanet | November 11, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Grid locked metro escalators. Grid locked federal government. Which of these situations is good for America?

Posted by: billybeer6 | November 11, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Love the argument Tommy ol’ Boy … old pal of mine but it is quite clearly a false choice. Your witty narrative, like nearly every argument you pollute the world with is full of holes.
The usual suspects in this case railing against the commission seem to be coming more form the left who are fuming at the thought of cutting entitlement spending. After all, if people aren’t dependant on the government why would they vote democrat? Strike one.
The “report” you speak of isn’t the final report from the deficit commission, it’s a proposal from the two chairmen of the commission, Bowles and Simpson. So that’s strike two.
Secondly, you messiah has not only not endorsed the draft proposal from the commission chairs but is already distancing himself from it as fast as he can. And that’s strike three Tommy ol Boy … ol’ pal of mine. Could it be that you are nothing more than a transparently left wing partisan hack?

Posted by: SharpshootingPugilist | November 11, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

How come no tax on Wall Street's ability to do speculative trades? Were'nt those bozos responsible for this big mess?

Posted by: duke5 | November 11, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Now _that's_ Comedy!!!

Posted by: pete1013 | November 11, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

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