Alleged Killer in Facebook

According to Police Cho Seung Hui, 23, is responsible for shootings that left 33 people dead at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va. (Fairfax County Public Schools/AP)

It's been less than 6 hours since the Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung Hui was identified and already 38 global groups bearing his name in their title or description have sprung up on Facebook. That number seems to be increasing by the minute as students from across the country and indeed the world, voice their opinion on the largest school shooting in American history.

Of these groups, 18 convey messages of sympathy, tribute or solitary, six are from media outlets which express sympathy while fishing for students with any information on either Hui or the shooting generally and 16 are so-called "bashing groups" with names like "Crazy bastard Cho Seung-hui" and "I Hope Cho Seung-Hui Burns in Hell."

The largest group thus far is "4/16/07" a memorial group with 5,556 members, "Prayer For Virginia Tech University" is next with 3,509 members and "f*** cho seung-hui" is third with 1,226 members. The social networking site is also being used to commemorate some of the 33 members of the Virginia Tech community who were killed during yesterday's attack, and as a forum to grieve.

-- Emil Steiner

By Hal Straus |  April 17, 2007; 1:55 PM ET
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I noticed that Facebook has recently been displaying sponsored ads from Fox News to "watch coverage of the campus massacre... (on) FOX News Channel for around the clock updates." That's some extremely tasteless opportunism, IMO.

Posted by: fsr3886 | April 18, 2007 03:10 AM

I have yet to see the discussion where we cover why everyone that could ran away. The word hero is being used again for the people that blocked doors. These are good people, trying to help. Yet what did they do? They saved the people in the room with them. So he walked down the hall, went in the next room and killed their fellow students, friends and teachers. I am sure these people do not feel like hero's. If that is the defenition of a hero then we have lost the meaning of the word. They were brave, scared, panicked, pick the word you like. But hero's no. There were no hero's at VT that day.

Sooner or later we have to make the choice, do you want to die on your feet, or on your knees. Sooner or later someone has to go after these guys. I know some will probably die but at least we will have tried.

Posted by: ironforest | April 18, 2007 04:37 PM

April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech, Virginia
Cho Seung Hui murders 32 people. Anti-psychotic medication was found in his dorm room.

May 21, 1998, Springfield, Oregon
15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his own parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been on Prozac and had undergone "anger management" classes.

April 20, 1999- Columbine, CO.
18-year-old Eric Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox when he and his partner Dylan Klebold killed 12 classmates and a teacher before taking his own life. The coroner confirmed that the antidepressant was in his system through toxicology.

May 20, 1999, Conyers, Georgia
15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with a mix of antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

Am I the only one who sees a common denominator here?

The FDA needs to retake a serious look at these drugs that are being dolled out to everyone complaining of depression. Some may argue that there are people being helped by these drugs, but I feel that someone suffering from depression can resolve there issues in other ways, rather than being turned into a psychotic killer.

Posted by: evandd2001 | April 18, 2007 05:27 PM

Ours is a country made up of people who get to make choices about how we will live. Should we choose to encourage colleges to protect the student population from mentally disturbed individuals showing sign of extreme or alarming social behavior? Should that person be required to attend appropriate counseling to be allowed to remain in the school body?

Posted by: ebert5 | April 18, 2007 06:36 PM

I really am surprised that everyone is
shocked at this horrible event. Why does
it always take a trajedy like this to
change our ways of doing things. The
professors, campus police, administrators,
and a mental health facility knew he was
a danger to society. There were many
warning signs at the other school shootings, for example Columbine High School, yet schools and universities pay no attention to these signs. VA Tech University should have locked down the
campus the moment after the first two murders. The administrators, campus Chief
of Police, some professors, and counselors
at the mental health should be fired. Maybe, just maybe, this might draw needed
attention to the children and adults with
serious mental problems in settings
such as these. Also, it is now illegal to
have a mid-term abortion. This also has
contributed to the violence in our society.


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GRANTED--Is always taking

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(BRAIN)

SOUL--Life principles of a being

DOORS--NOT ALL OF THEM SHOULD BE OPENED.......

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FAILURE ISN'T AN OPPOSITION.......

TOUCH NOT HIS ANOINTED.......

PEACE TO THE *EAST*

Mercy777@BLACKPLANET.COM
INNER-GEE@BLACKPLANET.COM
innergeeus@yahoo.com

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PPS: For some reason and some how it appears that a (?) is in the place of a ( ' ) so if by any chance you notice a typo please excuse it......

Warmest Thanks &
God Bless You and Yours

Posted by: innergeeus | April 19, 2007 05:01 AM

It's very hard to be patient in a situation like this. We are shocked and angry, we want someone to blame. The blame belongs to Cho, but he is a coward who took his own life. There is no satisfaction in directing anger on a dead man. So our collective anger, our own unsatisfied rage has been on it's own rampage, striking out at any available target within range. The school administrators, the teachers, the mysterious "people who did nothing", gun laws, the system, the police, his parents, Koreans, movies, Quentin Tarantino, American culture at large. With limited information, without all the facts -- we jump to conclusions and fire away. Cho did it with bullets, and now we do it with words and blame. In this, we can at least identify with Cho's anger. We can identify with his mindset of rage like lava searching for an outlet to spew it's molten heat. Cho was clearly unable to stop, be rational, think it through. Can we, now, not do better than that? Can we not learn the terrible lesson that anger and blame is not the way?

It's good that we have these pages so that we can talk it through. We need to express our emotions, our sadness, our grief, and yes, even our anger. Perhaps if Cho had been able to do that in a healthier way than venom-filled plays and manifestos, things might have been different. But I beg you, let us express our anger in the right way, and not add fuel to this fire with misdirected blame that may give us a moments cheap satisfaction, but ultimately only adds insult to injury and opens more unnecessary wounds.

Posted by: hrobin352 | April 19, 2007 10:26 AM

Like everyone I found the news of the Virginia Tech shootings really sad and my heart goes out to all the people affected.

However I am annoyed when the media keeps reporting Cho as a Korean immigrant and keeps making references to the fact he was born in Korea. The facts are he was brought up in the US since the age of 8. In my book that makes him an American and an American problem.

Instead of Korean bashing we should investigate what happened to him in America (was he bullied at school etc) and what would turn a person to do this. Don't get me wrong I am not standing up for him in any way - I just think the constant immigrant references are a little lame. After all a huge population of America are immigrants anyway if you go back far enough.

Posted by: hrichards | April 19, 2007 01:00 PM

My heart goes out to all of the people that have died, the injured, the families, the rescue crew that assisted that day and to the entire campus of Virginia Tech. This was a senseless act that a person, god created, committed.

I want people to know that I am mentally ill. I have Bipolar and Borderline Personality Disorder. This does not mean I am a bad person, as I was born with this and it is genetics that made me this way. I did not ask to be mentally ill, but I am dealing with it. By people stating that Cho was mentally ill and should not have been allowed on campus, makes me very sad because there is such a stigma out there. This could have been a person that was "normal" or "sane" that committed this crime and everyone would still try to find a reason. Honestly, even with the tapes and letters, I do not think we will really ever know the full truth. I wish we could all look into to someones head and figure out what they are thinking so this senseless tragedy would not have happened, but we are not able to do that.

Please keep in mind that, yes, what Cho did was a very evil, evil thing that should have NEVER happened to all of the people at Virginia Tech, their families and the country. Please also remember that, even though he was mentally ill does not make all of us who are also mentally ill, bad people.

Thank you for the time for letting me express myself and my thought and prayers are with VT and will be forever.

Posted by: aj9232000 | April 19, 2007 10:14 PM

In my opinion, people exhibit lots of warning signs/behaviours before commiting an act like this. Ask Psychlogists, they would say. So the question now is how do we identify people like this?? And probably we have got some answers from Cho's friends/ Professors.
1. The creative writing in plays
2. Abnormal behavior like not answering people, not saying hi, not responding to teachers questions
3. Stalking & suicidal intentions

The problem was no one ( Universty/Police/Friends ) could comprehend all this facts above and raise a red flag. There should be a intelligent system in place where u record all the facts and report them.

Now fellow students across the world should look out for people & bring it to notice immediately

Posted by: senthil_n_kumar | April 20, 2007 02:11 AM

There is now available breakthrough technology to build a security net (similar to a wireless data network) on a campus to make a College/University campus drug free, explosives free and gun free. This new technology would have prevented this tragic event. IPGlobal Group is currently licensing this tremendous technology.

Posted by: nmaxfield | April 21, 2007 01:53 AM

My opinion justified by my personal experiences & perspective is this. . .
First of all, what happened should never have happened. It was an unthinkable, horrible, unjustifiable tragedy for so many reasons and for so many people. But, even in this horror of unbelievable pain & sorrow, there has to be something gained here & something to be learned from this. It is unfortunately not until terrible things happen in the world, do we then as a nation of persons and communities, as well as state & federal legal agencies then, think to "Act & Respond" to these Horrible Events of Turmoil. We do not pass laws protecting persons that have been stalked & terrorized until, enough persons have been killed or seriously hurt. We do not take legal actions to preserve the safety of potential victims such as children from "sex offenders" and criminals, until something horrible has happened to make us aware of what needs to be done after the fact. Now we have all these laws, like the "Miranda laws", the websites to see if we are living amongst sex offenders etc.
The question of the hour here, is now "What can We in Fact Learn From this Tradgedy that has Occured?"

Coming from myself, a now 30 yr. old, female, Asian American of bi-cultural background, & diverse background with a college education and some life experience, I believe the answer is "Two-Fold."

The Answer is, this Kid, the murderer, he is forever unjustified for what he did. But, why did he do it, & why was he not stopped before this?
My answer is this. Clearly this kid, was a lost soul, broken, depressed, suicidal, violent, an introvert, and crying out for help. Did he have anyone to turn to? Why did he do this, why did he not just take his own life, but, decided to take 32 others & his own, & then send tapes of himself seeking infamy & some sort of revenge on people that had more than what he had?

He was a Korean National, meaning he was not an American born citizen. This of course does not mean that we should judge a specific ethnicity or country based on a single person that did horrible things. Although, the Korean Culture is opposite to the American culture, in that it promotes secular, uniform, community accomplishment, acceptance, approval & pride as well as for shame, embarrassment, & any other real emotion or action as a collective people & culture unlike the autonomous agents of the Amercian culture and society of both families, communities, etc. With this in mind, I firmly resolve to say that I truly beieve that on some conscious level, this horribly lost soul, so full of pain, not only had to be severly mentally ill, but, felt no ability to seek strength in others that of his family, that of his Korean culture, or that of his American sourrounding both as a country/culture, but, in the university that he lived and went to school in.
Because, of this, he felt he had no strength, no where to save himself, & no where to turn, so he chose to make a statement as both an individual & as a seudo representative of the Korean heritage that he "Wanted Everyone to Wake-up & Listen to his Cries of insanity."
In the Korean Culture, shame & disobedience go hand in hand. Everything you say, & do, is suppose to be a reflection of your immediate family, culture & community, to reach out for help in any way & go out of your circle is almost forbidden, because of the shame you may bring unto yourself & moreover to your family's name. That is drilled into you more than anything, more than your personal happiness,which in turn often means your own stability & then your sanity. He felt like he had no choice, & to take that to the most horrible extreme & go on a mass murdering spree, "He wanted To let his people (both Korean & American" know that he wasn't going to listen to the abuse anymore & he exploded in the most violent rage a person could ever anticipate.
So, I say, as one person, an enducated, Korean American, American born, person, if Koreans are going to take this as a hit to their "reputation" that is the wrong way to think! "Do not continue to use "Shame" to hold you or anyone other person down. Instead, as a individual, band together with your community & culture and Understand, that Now is the Time to Finally Acknoledge the Terrible, terrible Need for Emotional Help and Needs for Emotional Understanding & Acceptance that is not traditionally known in your culture. Mental Illness is a tabu, to even acknowledge, let alone going to seek professional help, it is shunned & shamed. Would you rather have someone you love, turn to violence & despair, then to acknowledge the help the desperately need & deserve.

And for all cultures & Americans in the United States & All over the world, do not attack the attacker for his ethnicity or culture, attack him for his actions and do all that you can as a nation to prevent this from happening in the most positive, helpful, not revengeful, negative way.

We are all mourning as a Nation, as all cultures, as all ethnicities, and no one is discluded from this pain, especially the family of the "killer."

Respectfully yours,
Deeply saddened in L.A.

Posted by: susan_calling | April 22, 2007 09:09 PM

I had written this the day after the shooting had happened.

Yesterday was the first day of the nations new train of thought. 33 people were killed at Virginia Tech. At 9:00 am the first shot was fired, 2 hours later, 33 people dead. Why didn't people on campus take alert and put the campus on lock down? On April 20, 1999 a blood bath occured in my own town Littleton, Colorado at Colombine High School. In less than 2 hours the VT shooting knocked Colombines out in a snap. Although I was still in Elementary School, and am now only a Junior in high school, I remember driving past Colombine High seeing almost 20 police cars and maybe even more ambulances. I will always remember that. Forgetting this is going to be hard, almost impossible. I will remember my principal on the intercom announcing what had happened. But one question. Why did they wait so long to find him? Why did they let 33 people die? They had 2 hours.

Posted by: ledzepplinrocks | April 25, 2007 07:53 PM

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