Pre-draft camp update

Before we get to hoops, a little advice: if you ever go jogging in Orlando, make sure you don't look like a cat who just did a major crime. After this morning's pre-draft camp workouts, I returned to my room, changed up and stepped out for a run. I made it around the corner near the hotel when I noticed three cop cars lined up, cherries flashing. I paid them no mind.
Hey, I live in DC.
I made it about a 1/4 of a mile when one of the cruisers pulled up along me and waived for to stop. He stopped, climbed out and asked if I had any ID. I didn't. I was jogging so no place for a wallet.
" Where do you live?" he asked.
"Washington," I said. "I'm in town for work. Staying at the Renaissance."
The cop nodded his head and took off.
I kept running. Made it about another 1/2 mile when another cruiser pulled up, flashed his lights and told me to stop.
"Show me your ID," this cop said as he got out.
"I don't have it on me. I'm running," I said, getting a little ticked off. "What's going on anyway? Why do I keep getting stopped?"
"Someone shot a police officer. We're looking for a light-skinned black male. He's wearing shorts and a t-shirt and he was last seen running in this area. You fit the description."
Me, realizing that I indeed did fit the description though I was hardly running like a guy trying to get a way from something: "Oh."
Anyway, the officer took down my name, my social and checked with the hotel that I was indeed staying there before letting me go. I think I'll stick to running in DC. Where it's safe.

On to the hoops:
-Spoke with Gilbert today. He said his left knee is about "65 percent" and he's doing more and more in the gym every week. Right now he's limited to non-contact work and he's not cutting at full speed but he feels good. He also sounds as upbeat as he's sounded since the injury.

-Wiz vice president of baskeball operations Tommy Sheppard was interviewed by the Seattle SuperSonics for their open GM spot. Sheppard, who has been with the Wizards for four years, is a darkhorse candidate but Seattle is looking for a new guy before the draft so stay tuned.

-I can confirm that the Wiz plan on working out the following draft prospects starting June 7: Colorodo State center Jason Smith, Boston College forward/center Sean Williams and Florida PG Taureen Green, who in my humble opinion has been the best player down here the last two days. Smith isn't here and neither is Williams, who was booted off the BC team this season but has intrigued NBA squads with his athletic ability, length and energy. The Wiz sure could use a 6-10 guy like that coming off their bench. I'll let you know as I confirm more workout guys.

-A couple of area products did some nice things today. Virginia Tech F Coleman Collins was 8 of 14 from the field and finished with 22 points and three rebounds in 22 minutes in his team's loss this morning. Also, Tech's Zabian Dowdell had 8 points and 6 assists in 20 minutes in his team's afternoon win. Dowdell, Collins and Virginia's JR Reynolds are projected to be taken somewhere in the second round. I particularly liked what I saw from Dowdell, who was explosive and held his own in his matchup against Florida's Green in their game this afternoon. I didn't see much of Maryland's DJ Strawberry because I was doing interviews but I'll take a closer look tomorrow.

-Green just looked like a guy who is ready for the NBA. He's super quick but always under control and though he did finish with two turnovers in 20 minutes, I don't remember him making many bad decisions. He showed a nice J, got into the paint at will and was sharp in the open floor. Basicallly, he made things easier for everyone around him and I now have a better understanding of why Florida was so good the last two seasons.

-A couple of guys who caught my eye: PG Jared Jordan or Marist is generously listed as 6-foot-2 and he looks much smaller than that but the kid can play. Jordan, who became the first Div I player since Avery Johnson to lead the country in assists two straight seasons, came off the bench to spell Green for Team 2 and ran the squad nearly as smoothly. He made 3 of 4 shots and wound up with 6 points and 5 assists in just under 20 minutes. Also, 6-foot-9 Sun Yue of China showed nice handles for a guy his size, moves well without the ball and also knocked down some outside shots, including a three-pointer at the end of the first half for Green and Jordan's team. Yue is skinny and looks younger than his listed 22 but I was intrigued.

By Ivan Carter |  May 30, 2007; 10:19 PM ET
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Stay off the streets Ivan and stick to your watering-holes!

Posted by: Mickey Mouse- | May 30, 2007 11:52 PM

You know what they say about a black man coming to Florida? You come for vacation and leave on probation.

Posted by: Ihate florida | May 31, 2007 12:01 AM

Lol, Ivan. Weren't there like any treadmills you could've used in the hotel?

Posted by: Will | May 31, 2007 12:09 AM

That's terrible you got treated like that. Guess you will have to carry your ID whenever you run in Fla.

Posted by: George Templeton | May 31, 2007 1:17 AM

LOL Ivan! Wasn't it in Florida last offseason where Gil and Awvee Storey got arrested!? Gil told the police, "you can't arrest me I'm Gilbert Arenas, and I play on the Washington Wizards!" You should of said, "you can't arrest me I'm Ivan Carter, and I know Gilbert Arenas!"

Glad to hear Zabian looked good! And heard DJ played pretty well too. DJ reminds me of DeShawn. I agree Taurean Green could be a nice 2nd round pick, him or Dowdell.

Also what about Ibekwe?

Thanks again Ivan, hope you have a good time down there. By the way, is this happening in that place The Milkhouse? Been in there before, and that is a nice facility.

Posted by: Darnell | May 31, 2007 2:01 AM


Gil said that he never made that remark.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 7:25 AM

Some things never change down south. Sorry you had to experience that. Now we know why Gilbert sold his condo and doesn't want to go back there. Anyway.........thanks for the updates and uh please stay off the streets running in Miami,we need you here :-) Great story by the way.

Posted by: WizFanatic | May 31, 2007 8:05 AM

You should have said your name was Jarvis Hayes and the only crime you committed was playing for the Wizards last season.

Thanks for the updates Ivan, truly great reading.

Posted by: Juan DC | May 31, 2007 8:29 AM

Well, Ivan did you check the morning news, was there really a shooting or were you getting shook down? In Florida, Naa, it would never happen.
Do you think that Kobe and the Buss family could actually be filming a pilot for a new sports reality show. Maybe they'd call it "Livin in La La Land" subtitled "Ya gatta be a playar".
What a concept for an ongoing TV soap, they could bring back Shaq and film some Flashbacks, or maybe do Kobe's Colorado summer vacation. And the Buss family, they could be good for a spinoff series all by themselves. And while all of the antics are going on Phil Jackson could be meditiating in a corner, or maybe he could go off to Tibet to find the true meaning of basketball.
Hugh Hefner and the girls next door could go to court with Mr. Buss. It could go on forever!
So last night Kobe kind of retracted his trade demand. "This is my team, I don't want to leave LA and my fans".
Was he retracting his trade demand, or announcing that he had just bought the Clippers????

Posted by: GM | May 31, 2007 9:00 AM

Too bad Ivan got pulled over a few times, but the cops were just doing their job. If they were on the look out for a dark skinned, heavy set black man, and pulled Ivan over, then I can see why it didn't make sense.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 9:03 AM

Ivan got nabbed for JWB; a cousin of DWB. Sad. Like a guy who just shot a cop is going to JOG RIGHT BY A BUNCH OF COPS. Unbelievable. Helpful hint: They make iPod sleeves that have enough room for an ID and debit card. Might want to invest in one of those for the future.

I am worried that Gil won't sign an extension. Is my worry valid? The Wiz CANNOT let hime leave.

Posted by: Tuna | May 31, 2007 9:24 AM

Totally sucks, Ivan. Too bad cops don't drive taxicabs!

You don't need an ID to deal with the fuzz -- a box of jelly-glazed Krispy Kremes ought to do the trick :)

Good lookin' on the draft camp front. I'm a little worried about Sean Williams but hope he's got his stuff together.

Posted by: iceberg | May 31, 2007 9:28 AM

dcmann88, What?!!??

How is pulling over a casual jogger doing their job. Come on now. Let's keep it real. We all know what it was.

Posted by: anon | May 31, 2007 9:38 AM

dcmann88, What?!!??

How is pulling over a casual jogger doing their job. Come on now. Let's keep it real. We all know what it was.

Posted by: anon | May 31, 2007 9:38 AM

If you read Ivan's blurb, you'd notice he emphasized:

"...make sure you don't look like a cat who just did a major crime.."

The cat who did the major crime shot a police officer. If you know nothing else, whenever it's radio'ed in that a cop is down, every cop out there will be on top of it like flies on sh!t.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 10:05 AM

Ivan, can you give us a percentage of whether the Wizards are trying to do anything to get Corey Brewer? Anything at all?

Posted by: The Governor | May 31, 2007 10:07 AM

I certainly checked the Orlando papers this morning. Read the story from the link and judge for yourself if things match up.
I think if the cops really thought that Ivan was a suspect, they would have stopped him with guns drawn.

Posted by: Wizzy | May 31, 2007 10:36 AM

Good thing you weren't jogging with Awvee Storey, otherwise you might be blogging from jail. Though you got a good story out of it, it still sucks that you were stopped. Hopefully not hassled too bad. Should have pulled the Kornheiser, "Do you know who I am?!!"

Posted by: Sean | May 31, 2007 10:38 AM

I've stayed at the Renaissance, from where the paper said that shooting was thoose cops must of thought Ivan was the Marathon Man!
Gotta agree if they really thought Ivan was their guy they'd of came in force and asked questions after he was cuffed.
On Strawberry, Ivan have you been hereing anything, does it look like he could slip into the second round? I've always thought that he's a guy that could make it on his D. Nice size and strength he could someday be a Bruce Bowen kind of guy. I hope somebody takes a shot at him.
And I got to agree with some of the posters about Grunfeld, he's played this game long enough to know that these things really amount to "Liar's Conventions". Nobody will give you a really straight answer about who they "Really" like. There is always alot of smoke and mirror stuff going on this time of year. Ernie is one of the best at hiding his intentions.
Ernie's wife, "Honey would you like to have sex tonight?"
Ernie Grunfeld, "At the appropiate time I'll prepare an answer and I'll have a response to that inquiry. You'll know when I'm ready after I've evauluated the whole situation and have prepared to take action when I have a plan in place."

Posted by: GM | May 31, 2007 11:21 AM

GM LOL, LOL, We can put your Ernie to his wife scenario next to the Jerry Buss's Cheerleaders and Hugh & "The "Girls Next Door" on reality T.V. The Lakers saga continues and we never know what Ernie's gonna do. I read Jerry Buss, Jerry jr & Kupschak are great poker players - you never know their next move. Maybe its the same for Ernie G. Only, lets not let him go to LA drivin a mercedez wagon any where near Hugh's place. He may never come back.

He pulled a heck of koo trading Kwame for Caron & ...can't remember the other player.
That deal HAD to have been orchestrated at a poker table..cuz no Gen Mgr with a sound mind would have made it. LOL

Posted by: Robin | May 31, 2007 12:01 PM

If the Wizards draft Sean Williams, he could take Haywood's place in EJ's doghouse, because by comparison to Williams, Haywood will seem like all-around good guy Jamison.

Posted by: Sean | May 31, 2007 12:37 PM

Anybody who thinks someone jogging can't get pulled over is profiling also because you're basically implying that only people who have baggy jeans, Timbs, XXXL t-shirt, a skullcap, and bling should be pulled over. If you look like the possible cop shooter, regardless of what you are wearing, then you're likely to get pulled over.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 12:45 PM

Might the Jazz be the Wizards' primary competition for DeShawn Stevenson? He seems like a very good fit for them. They need a two-guard who can play tough D and hit outside shots, and with DeShawn's history with the Jazz, you'd figure he could jell quickly with them.

Posted by: Henry | May 31, 2007 12:46 PM

Deshawn tasted freedom outside of Utah and probably won't go back. Recall, he turned down big money there. Also, his antics won't be tolerated by a disciplinarian like Jerry Sloane.

I read yesterday that DS is probably going to ask for 5 years, 25 million, and Les BouleS will walk away if he does. I'd walk away for way less than that. Spend the money on Nocioni.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 1:32 PM

Sloan made Stevenson's first three years in the NBA a living hell. But the funny thing is a guy who was one of the worst defenders in the NBA( Sloan apparently told him on a daily basis he was the worst) now makes his living as a defensive 2 gaurd.
Wonder if Stevenson could go back and play for Sloan and realize that the riding he took out of High School turned him into an NBA player.
Sloan must be brutal to some guys, the first couple of years a guy is with him can really be rough. But most guys that play for him awhile then seem to love him and would run through a wall for him.
Back when Sloan was playing years ago I remember one time he cut off a cast to play, so to him an injury is when a bone is sticking out. Nothing less.
Robin, I thought Ivan posted his little run in with the law for a few laughs. Not sure everyone on the site got a laugh out of it. If you can't have a sense of humor, what sense does this life make anyhow?

Posted by: GM | May 31, 2007 1:46 PM

GM - I din't think I commented on Ivan's little police stops. Must have been somebody else. I have a great sense of humore or I wouldn't be posting on here.
I was laughing at your comments about Ernie's wife - Jerry's Cheerleaders etc. but chose not to comment on the cops thing. I work in legal field. Tend to shy away from commenting on such. Not sure who you meant.

But will say I agree with assessment on DS & Jerry Sloan if I may.
I think he and a Brendan type would do well in a more disciplined environment - providing they wants to improve.

Posted by: Robin | May 31, 2007 2:52 PM

FYI, everyone.
I complained about a DC Man post today and they actually removed it. I'm sure he'll cross the line in the future, so you can use the "e-mail us" link above to complain. Thanks to whomever removed that post.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2007 3:23 PM

cheers to anonymous! ;-)

Posted by: hmmmmm | May 31, 2007 3:26 PM

Just read this: Coming 2008-09 Kobe may be coming East - to the Bulls. Dr. Phil Jackson and Magic calmed things down - for now. so,

Kobe Bryant is not being traded this summer, not to anyone, no matter what he says. He also has a little trade clause that he can't opt out of til 08. But the Lakers will trade for someone. Right now they are working on a trade for Jermaine O'Neal. Pacers want Andrew Bynum & Odom. Whew! But if that doesn't happen, or if it does and it doesn't work out, it's not inconceivable Bryant could be with the Bulls in 2008-09.

Isn't O'Neal worthwhile for Wiz? Are we in the hunt for him? The Knicks are in the hunt for O'Neal as well.

Posted by: Robin | May 31, 2007 3:36 PM

Actually, I prefer Captain Stabbin.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 3:36 PM

Robin, if you were Kobe's wife, would you toss that 8 carat, 4 million dollar diamond ring in an ocean just to get back at kobe, or would you keep this ring that symbolizes and reminds you of his indiscretion?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 3:39 PM

"FYI, everyone.
I complained about a DC Man post today and they actually removed it. I'm sure he'll cross the line in the future, so you can use the "e-mail us" link above to complain. Thanks to whomever removed that post.

Posted by: | May 31, 2007 03:23 PM "

I'm glad you clicked on the link and got offended. Maybe you enjoyed it before you got offended. Either way, who cares?!?!


Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 3:41 PM

Hallelujah!!! where's the link?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2007 3:46 PM

Hallelujah!!! where's the link?

I thought it was gross as well.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2007 3:46 PM

The "email us" link is right next to the Comments title, in between Ivan's blurb and the beginning of the comments.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 3:53 PM

Is there another Lisa on here - or did someone pretend to be me? That last "Lisa" post was not me....and I don't even understand what it means.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 4:01 PM

Well, Lisa - I think we know.

DCMAN88, lets take it back to basketball.

Were you aware Pacers were trying to deal On'Neal? Why didn't you contact Ernie or Eddie? Or is he worth the money?

Posted by: Robin | May 31, 2007 4:20 PM


I'm sure he thinks I was the "anonymous" person who reported him to WAPO but it was not me.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 4:26 PM

The problem with Williams is not that he's a bad guy, it is that he cannot stop smoking weed. I realize that smoking weed regularly is far from unusual in the NBA, but that is something that would really concern me if I were the Wizards, or any NBA team that is seriously looking at Williams.

He has the talent to be a contributor in the NBA, especially in terms of defense/shot blocking/rebounding. But he certainly doesn't fit the profile of the good character guys the Wizards have been looking for in recent times.

Posted by: tmc | May 31, 2007 4:37 PM

Lisa, I couldn't care less if it was you or someone else. But, I wouldn't put it past you to be one of the many new faces here that jab at me, especially since you made a pledge a few weeks ago to not get into it with me. By being anonymous, you can skirt that. In any regard, I do not care. I do what I do.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 8:12 PM

It's not me - which just proves other people feel as strongly as I do.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 10:19 PM

The only thing you're feeling strong is that bottle.

Bottom line is stick to basketball, stop calling people hater or troll, and we wouldn't have all this nonsense to begin with.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 31, 2007 10:41 PM

DCDude,I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you because you are not worth it. I have never called anyone a troll.

However, in parting, you are the one that antagonizes everyone with your hatred of erodes just about everything you write. The Wiz season has been over for awhile yet you still continue to make jabs at Gil.

I like the other Wiz players as well and would take up for them too - not just Gil. You don't even appear to like the team so it continually amazes me why you post on this blog.

You are the one that needs a bottle of something to tame the hatred inside.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 11:42 PM

ivan that is the second time the cops were looking for a light skinned black man while jogging. you remember red wing 1993? im sorry to hear of the racial profiling. it happens in minnesota as well, doesnt it? however, the first time was just for having a beer. much love brotha and remember scottie pippen sucks!

Posted by: pippen sucks | June 1, 2007 12:13 AM

pippen sucks - Does that profiling happen in Minnesota too? My daughter is waitlisted for law school in Minnesota and is alrady packing.

Ivan, whats the climate in Minnesota?

Posted by: Robin | June 1, 2007 12:57 AM

Ivan, you wrote - "Wiz vice president of baskeball operations Tommy Sheppard was interviewed by the Seattle SuperSonics for their open GM spot . . ."

He may like Seattle, but how does he like OKC? I just hope the NBA steps in and either forces them to stay in Seattle, or forces the name SuperSONICS to stay (which would only make sense - BOEING).

Question - is Jason Smith a bruiser? If so, Wiz - take him. I live out here in CO and have barely heard him mentioned.

Posted by: Shotgun | June 1, 2007 1:39 AM

"DCDude,I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you because you are not worth it. I have never called anyone a troll.

However, in parting, you are the one that antagonizes everyone with your hatred of erodes just about everything you write. The Wiz season has been over for awhile yet you still continue to make jabs at Gil.

I like the other Wiz players as well and would take up for them too - not just Gil. You don't even appear to like the team so it continually amazes me why you post on this blog.

You are the one that needs a bottle of something to tame the hatred inside.

Posted by: Lisa | May 31, 2007 11:42 PM"

There you go again with your nonsense. Changing people's names. You need to grow up. You didn't use the word troll, but you used the word "hater" many times. I guess in your bizzarro world, you're used to getting your way. In the real world, different people have different opinions.

You can't handle the fact that I don't have a lovefest for Gilby like you do. Too bad. Maybe if he wasn't such a whackjob, and acted like a real team player, could handle the pressure from his overinflated hype, then my critique of him wouldn't hold water, but it does.

If you're antagonized by everyone that has a different opinion than you do, then you need to live in a bubble or on a deserted island.

Your love obession with Gilby erodes every shred of basketball knowledge or crediblity you have, how little there was to begin with. Keep cheering for Gilby while he's here up until he leaves. I'll be right here giving you the real perspective.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 1, 2007 8:33 AM

As usual, you are distorted and full of it. I've been living in the real world a whole lot longer than you have.

Have you ever wondered why you are AlONE in your assessments? And I know you will say "Ivan said this on the chat...or Wilbon said this on the chat" so that makes it right. You don't even have your own opinions. You cut and paste them from everywhere else.

Posted by: Lisa | June 1, 2007 8:53 AM

Obviously you have a bad memory. You're too starstruck to recall the painfull facts that I wrote. As I said many many times, I made statements based on my observations. Then, I wrote them on this blog. When I was encountered by starstruck fans like you who have blinders on, I BACKED UP my statements with statements made by Ivan and Wilbon. Their statements came based on what I asked them on the Post's Discussion online after I was attacked on this blog for making my statements first.

Obviously, this blog isn't for lovesick Arenas lapdogs like you. All opinions about basketball are welcome. Why can't I get on this blog and offer a different opinion? Notice this:

"We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features."

Irregardless, a lot of my predictions came true during the season (ie. Arenas, the media hog, should have rested before ASW for the team like Nash did, but instead, he played, and guess what, he stunk it up after the AS break), whether you want to face it or not.

If you want a fulltime, lovefest Arenas blog, then set up a webpage and restrict me from accessing it. Then, you can control the content. Otherwise, deal with it.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 1, 2007 9:10 AM

The, I will stick to running in DC where it is safe line is a classic. Its all relative...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2007 9:36 AM

Ivan running in Georgetown is not the same as him running in Anacostia or PG Cty. Anybody remember the PG days of "boys on the hood?" Although, Ivan mentioned he will be moving soon. Probably to Wilbon's gated community neighborhood.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 1, 2007 10:28 AM

DC MAN 88-

Ivan&Mike are two of the most down to earth,hard working folks in the business...

Since you are so smart,quick question for ya,aren't gated communities built to keep thugs like you out?

Posted by: WaPo Reader- | June 1, 2007 9:04 PM

Word to your momma.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 1, 2007 9:51 PM

Lisa and DC Man shut up!
All you do is talk.
Everyone knows Gil is and forever will be the man in D.C.!

DCman U A Hata ON GIL

Posted by: Da man | June 7, 2007 7:28 PM

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