Nick Young is the pick

Ernie Grunfeld was beaming when he met with us a short while ago in the VC media room to discuss the selection of USC SG Nick Young with the 16th pick. Obviously, the Wizards had Young rated high after he worked out for them here back on June but I don't think they ever thought that he'd be sitting there for them tonight. A couple of things happened to set the table for Young: Philly went big with Thaddeus Young at 12, New Orleans passed on Nick Young to go big with Julian Wright, the Clippers passed on a need-area at guard to take a big man in Al Thornton and the Pistons stuck with SG Rodney Stuckey as expected at 15.

The book on Young is that he's a superb athlete who can score off the dribble or on catch-and-shoots, has range that easily extends to the NBA 3-point line and can do his thing in the open floor. The question marks are about his build - he's almost Kevin Martin skinny - and he's not a great defender. What else is new on this team? That said, the Wiz really needed a scorer off that bench.

Wait, this blog entry has interrupted by a text message from none other than Gilbert Arenas, who informs me that Young used to play for Gil Sr's AAU team as a younger cat in Los Angeles
. "He is gonna help our bench out a lot," the text reads. So, that's where Gilbert weighs in. Gotta go work but I'll check back later.

By Ivan Carter |  June 28, 2007; 10:20 PM ET
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I hope this pick means bye bye Jarvis!

Posted by: George Templeton | June 28, 2007 10:30 PM

"hes gonna help our bench out"
Is Gil going to be relly upset if D.steve doesnt stay? Young could crack the starting lineup even if #2 stays and over daniels, maybe mid-year...i wouldnt be shocked.

Posted by: mikey5 | June 28, 2007 10:44 PM

Nick the quick.

Ernie knows how to draft them. He always drafted quality talent.

Posted by: dc | June 28, 2007 10:50 PM

God I hope this pick is a boot to the butt of Jarvis Hayes. I am hoping someone decent will to us at 47.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 28, 2007 10:52 PM

We really needed help at 2 guard; after Julian Wright went off the board, I was holding my breath that Young would be available. Well, the Wiz are going to keep scoring, that's for sure!

The only other player worth considering there was Sean Williams, but you don't take Williams -- and the huge risk he represents -- if Nick Young is available. If Young was gone, too, then maybe you take that risk, but we didn't have to.

Don't forget also, those who slam the Wiz for not getting a big man, that we've got Pech coming, and Blatche could be poised for a breakout year. Veremeenko next year, and I bet Ernie goes big, or with a tenacious defender, in Rd. 2. I'm feeling pretty good right about now...

Posted by: keithinator | June 28, 2007 10:55 PM

As good as the West was this past season, they are even better after the draft and the trades. Scary.

PS. Funniest quote of the night was Steven A. Smith calling MJ's move "stupid" to trade Julian Wright for Jason Richarson.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 10:57 PM

Does anybody know when the NBA draft is?

Posted by: Skip | June 28, 2007 10:57 PM

Is anyone going to draft McRoberts?

lol

Derrick Byars is still out there as well.

Hope the Wiz get Green from Florida at 47.

Posted by: dc | June 28, 2007 10:57 PM

Great pick. Just goes to show you how much a lot of these so-called "experts" know when coming up with countless mock drafts months in advance. I had a feeling Young being from SoCal would have some sort of ties to Gil. Now we have some trade bait at the SG position to go after a low-post scorer in FA.

Posted by: Hendo | June 28, 2007 10:58 PM

Anyone else can't get on RealGM? I've been trying for a while and it looks like the site crashed.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 28, 2007 11:01 PM

MJ (Charlotte) drafted (then traded?) Brandan Wright NOT Julian Wright. Julian Wright was drafted by the Hornets.

Posted by: Lisa | June 28, 2007 11:06 PM

Les BouleS better pick a Bruce Bowen type, who's a lockdown defender. We don't need no more stinkin' scorers.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 11:06 PM

try Basketballforums.com if Realgm is down

Posted by: Zards | June 28, 2007 11:10 PM

Now I'm free......

Free fallin'

Posted by: Derrick Byars | June 28, 2007 11:17 PM

WOW! derrick byars still not picked? we were thinkin bout talkin him at 16 and he might be available at 47? that would be pretty sweet if we could get him at 47.

Posted by: Raman Ghuman | June 28, 2007 11:17 PM

AND I JYNXED IT! MY BAD EVERYBODY!

Posted by: Raman Ghuman | June 28, 2007 11:22 PM

Don't worry Nichols is still available. Great Defender! So is DJ, good defender. Thought: If we get one of those guys, do we try to make some sort of deal to get another second rounder to pick up Aaron Gray or Taurean Green?

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | June 28, 2007 11:29 PM

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 11:38 PM

Marc Gasol would have been an awful pick at 47. He's a very slow big man and it would probably take several years until this guy can develop into anything that remotely resembles an NBA player. Don't buy into the hype just because he's Pau's brother.

Posted by: Raf | June 28, 2007 11:43 PM

Not really feeling this pick on McGuire. Skinny shot-blocker. Too thin to play the post. I guess he's more of a three.
I would have taken Visser.

Posted by: 80sballboy | June 28, 2007 11:44 PM

what happened to DJ Strawberry? don't we need defenders?

Posted by: bob | June 28, 2007 11:46 PM

Blazers blazin' up the draft. They're going to be a force to be reckon'd with.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 11:46 PM

So apparently Portland is having the draft of their lives. Sigh.

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | June 28, 2007 11:48 PM

Posted by: 80sballboy | June 28, 2007 11:50 PM

Has Marcus Vick been drafted yet?

Posted by: Skip | June 28, 2007 11:51 PM

Posted by: 80sballboy | June 28, 2007 11:51 PM

McGuire = Second coming of Charles Jones, the secret weapon

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 11:53 PM

Can't believe Dowdell hasn't gone yet.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 28, 2007 11:54 PM

I guess McGwire is a defender from the wing. Sounds like a hustle guy with great length and athleticism. We still needed a big, but at least we got much more athletic off the bench. Don't think he'll play much if he makes the team. Sounds like Ruffin with more athleticism and less bulk.

Posted by: 80sballboy | June 28, 2007 11:54 PM

Don't think DJ Strawberry's draft party is going too well now.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 28, 2007 11:57 PM

Can't believe we don't have a story from the employees of the Wash. Post on our 2nd round pick yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 12:01 AM

If they are not picked, I would hope Grunfeld invites Dowdell, Visser, and Strawberry to the Summer League. These guys have a chance to make the roster.

Posted by: Raf | June 29, 2007 12:02 AM

Phew....finally! Go DJ!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 29, 2007 12:04 AM

DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

I betcha EG has on his mind to see if McGuire can play some defense on LeTravel since we're gonna see him every postseason for years unless he opts out in a few. McGuire seems to have that size, build, athleticism, lateral movement, defensive ability to at least make it tough on LeTravel. Gotta trust EG on this one. Young is pretty much a consensus after how the draft unfolded.

DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

Posted by: Wizzin' By Ya | June 29, 2007 12:17 AM

The love of EG here is almost funny...the fawning, "EG knows how to pick em." Nick Young was rated to go as high as 9, so was O Pech. Nothing against EG, but he was making obvious picks that most scouts rated appropriately. Too much credit and too much blame...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 12:21 AM

DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

Anon, obviously you haven't been much of a Bullets/Wiz fan because if you did, you'd have more trust for EG. 1. When you've had Wes Unseld for a GM, there's only one way to go > Up. 2. EG has had some very good history of picking nice or serviceable 2nd rounders (Redd, Blatche, even Dan Gadzuric has been a good role player off the bench. He's arguably better than our 2 first round centers.


DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

Posted by: Wizzin' By Ya | June 29, 2007 12:33 AM

Well, to back Ernie up, he did say from the get go he will take the best player available, and he always had the belief that someone was going to fall (was obvious when Philadelphia picked Thaddeus Young). It's a no brainer pick, yes. I want to see if he made the right pick with MacGuire.

Posted by: Raf | June 29, 2007 12:34 AM

haywood and AD for odom, vlad, and cook?

Posted by: la trade | June 29, 2007 12:52 AM

"The love of EG here is almost funny...the fawning, "EG knows how to pick em." Nick Young was rated to go as high as 9, so was O Pech. Nothing against EG, but he was making obvious picks that most scouts rated appropriately. Too much credit and too much blame..."

Guess you where not around for the Unseld year where you??? Oh the memories of the Circus Ole draft, Bogus 5'4" and Bol 7'6". One of the prerequisites for a Bullets draft pick back in the day was caravel experience.

See what EG gets is that he doesn't try to out smart the process, unlike some NYC GM does every year.

What more could anyone have wanted from this year draft then Nick Young??? The number 2 ranked SG?

Posted by: dc | June 29, 2007 12:58 AM

AAAAH the smell of napom is in the air.

With their pick - the Wizrds selected Nick Young. AAAWWW He'll exchange 3 ptrs with Arenas

The wonderful adddition of yet another nondefensive shooter...yes,yes, yes I know wizard fans; He'll compliment Ruffin,Butler, Arenas, Hall, Songalia, Hayes, Jamison and help referee Etan & Haywood. He & Dre will compliment each other. So now where do you see yourselves going in the playoffs? 1st round?
2nd Round? Finals? U've got all your pieces now. NO MORE EXCUSES...

Coach Eddie Jordan has to pick his bench - If its anything like this years tired retarded bunch - ya better start prayin now. No, better yet..let your GM Grunfeld choose...another priceless moment.

Eddie Jordan..... gone 2008

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 3:15 AM

The way the first round broke Young was the smart pick at 16. He's more NBA ready than Crittiton right now and with his shooting range will fill a need that we have. Good enough scorer to also fill the need for a guy that can put up some points off the bench.
Can't comment alot on the pick of McGuire other than Ernie must have played it close to the vest and got his guy. Alot of the guys that had been discussed here and other places and linked to us were still on the board, so Ernie must have saw something that he liked in McGuire. With his track record over the years with 2nd rounders I hope he got lucky again.
Wondering if trade rumors will die down or if now Grunfeld will turn his attention to looking for trade partners now that the draft is over and most of the discussed Mega deals didn't happen.
Splitter to the Spurs at 28, in a few years that will look like another steal. Is there anyone that's pining away to have Micheal Jordan run our front office? That Jason Richardson trade doesn't look like the soundest move to me. Hawes wasn't the sexy choice there, but he could have gotten the Bobcats a center to pair with Okafor and May and maybe been solid in the blocks for 10 years. Just didn't seem like a very good use of the #8 pick to me. They were comparing it to taking Kwame Brown last night.

Posted by: GM | June 29, 2007 6:21 AM

First, let me vent a bit. I LOVE the NBA draft. Look forward to it every year for months.

Unfortunately, it is covered by ESPN.

Thank God for Mike Tirico and Jay Bilas, who are at least professional and non-ridiculous. Mark Jackson is fine too. But Steven A., Dick Vitale and Stuart Scott almost ruin the draft for me. And poor Nick Young. My heart really went out to him. Here he is, picked in the NBA draft, the fulfillment of a life long dream and possibly the happiest moment of his life. Stuart Scott's first words to him? "When your brother was murdered...," and then he proceeds to ask two questions about his brother's murder. Just completely unbelievable. (Second worst Stuart Scott moment -- when he talked to Joachim Noah about the shampoo he uses.)

I know that ESPN's corporate strategy is to use lower paid talent on the network -- I'm sure Tirico is paid well, but ESPN uses a lot of lower paid people to fill out their roster, which is why they get rid of people like David Alridge, who commands too much money, almost got rid of Mel Kiper a couple years ago, etc. -- but the product suffers as a result. Stuart Scott's questions are so awkward, it reminds me of some hidious first dates that I've been on.

Anyway, while I like the potential of Young and McGuire, I question whether they will reach it on the Wizards. Both guys COULD become good defenders, and obviously you pick McGuire with the thought that he could become a defensive stopper, a LeBron stopper. But the Wizards already had a guy in Jared Jeffries with all the tools needed to become a defensive stopper, and it never happened. In my opinion, it was the absence of coaching. Sure, the Wizards put in a defensive system, and teach their guys how to slide laterally, etc. But they don't have a coach who can take a guy with great defensive potential and turn him into a defensive star. They don't have a guy who can teach a defensive player how to get inside the head of an opponent, and to knock another player off his game (which is why so many mediocre players get hot, stay hot, and light up the Wizards). If the Wizards did, Jeffries would have become an excellent defensive player, an all-NBA defensive team player.

Plus, Jordan does not emphasize defense. Sure, he talks about it, but in crunchtime he reveals his true self when he rolls out the small ball lineup. So, while I believe that Young and McGuire are very good picks, I just don't see them developing on the defensive end with the current Wizards coaching staff. Hopefully Ernie can change that this summer.

Posted by: Henry | June 29, 2007 7:22 AM

NBADraft.net had McGuire going to us in the second round more than 2 weeks ago. Folks, I am not saying EG is a bad GM. What I am saying is all the fawning about his greatness is misplaced at best... While the coach gets hacked as if he has any players that can play defense... For both coach and GM they tend to get a bet too much credit and too much blame.

Checkout the past drafts, I applaud EG for some of choices, but in his success as well as his failures he picked guys whol were slated to go where they went... JUst like the rest of the NBA GM's for the most part. And that includes Micheal Redd who was slated to go in the second round, thus; all the GM's whiffed on him. I think the two picks were good, although I was surprised to when they did not take A. Gray.

Let the love fest continue :)

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 7:26 AM

Henry, my thoughts exactly on the ESPN bunch! Add Jim Gray in there and you've got the terrible trio (Stuart, Stephen A. Smith--what, was Stephen Smith not good enough?? Needed to add the middle initial there??)

I was watching them call the Bulls' Noah pick and Stephen AAA. Smith starts talking, I've never had to do this, but I muted the TV. I couldn't take another second! I've never seen a more conceited guy for such a mediocre analyst. Get this man off the primetime, ESPN!

Posted by: Nick | June 29, 2007 8:02 AM

Stephen A. Smith is a dolt, pure and simple. He believes that the volume of his opinions is commensurate with their correctness. He's an embarrassment to the network.

With regards to Ernie G.'s abilities, he plucked Gilbert away from GS, and saw what he could become; fleeced Kupchak out of Butler (and extended Caron very early, seeing his potential); drafted Blatche; got Jamison for Stack and Devon Harris. I'd say he's worthy of some praise.

Posted by: Keithinator | June 29, 2007 8:14 AM

"Unfortunately, it is covered by ESPN.

Thank God for Mike Tirico and Jay Bilas, who are at least professional and non-ridiculous. Mark Jackson is fine too. But Steven A., Dick Vitale and Stuart Scott almost ruin the draft for me". Henry

Henry - Very good points on the ESPN coverage. I would much rather have Greg Anthony and Tim Legler in for Mark Jackson and "Loudmouth" Steven Smith. I can live with Stuart Scott because he sometimes comes up with some good "one-liners".

ESPN also dropped the ball when the Wizards 2nd round pick at 47 came up. We never saw the pick (because of commercials or them talking to Chris Mullen), and then when they came back to discuss the last three 2nd round picks (47, 48, & 49) they skipped right over our pick to talk about Gasel. The Wizards still never get any love from ESPN.

As for my thoughts on the draft, I like the Nick Young pick, but I am a bit perplexed on why we did not take Gray with our 2nd? The guy has a very nice "back to the basket" game (unlike my boy Haywood and Thomas). He is a legit 290 and can bang and be a good space eater, which translates to "opening the floor" up more for our "big three".

Gray could have been used in those last 3 to 4 minutes of games when we needed a low post scoring threat to open the floor up for the "big three".

EG missed the mark on that call to me. We already have a slew of 3's and 4's, so why would EG draft "another one"? Best player avaliable maybe, ok but we still need a "5" in the worst way.

Is it me or does it seem like we have not done a trade in about TWO YEARS now of ANY KIND?????!!!! Please don't tell me we are going into another year with the dreaded Etan/Brendon two headed center attack AGAIN....????!!!!! Say it is not so JOE!!!!

Lastly, EG needs to pull the trigger on getting us some "5" help, but unfortunately he missed his opportunity by not picking Gray. I give EG a score of 5 out of 10 on his selection performance last night. He did the obvious with the 1st pick (I could have done that), but he missed out bad on our 2nd pick. We needed a "5" selected with that pick, plain and simple.

Posted by: mikie | June 29, 2007 8:18 AM

Let me start off by saying, in the land of Washington professional sports, the Wizards have emerged as the one and only home team where I trust the Front office decisions first and ask questions later. Therefore, I am at peace with Nick Young as the pick (I know Ernie's thrilled that I cautiously approve), but I'd be lying if I said that there wasn't a part of me that wanted to see the Wiz address the glaring defensive need by taking a chance on Sean Williams. To see Williams go the pick after was even more discouraging because it confirmed that picking a 5 block per game problem player at 16 would not have been a reach. Alas, I won't lose sleep over the draft night decision, however I would sleep better if Sean Williams went Ricky Williams on the Nets! Note to Verizon Center Audio operator: Que up Bob Marley when the Nets are in town, it will hopefully result in excessive salivating by Williams leaving him dehydrated and less effective.

Posted by: Kaan (Atlanta) | June 29, 2007 8:19 AM

Mikie:
I hear what you are saying about Gray, but: (1) Ernie looked at this guy last draft and this one and decided to pass, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt; (2) in the NBA scouting world there is a thing called "bigger-than-you points," which refers to the points scored by big men in college simply because they are guarded by smaller guys. In other words, a big guy may score in college because he rarely faces anyone his size, but he won't score in the NBA because he can't score against anyone his size, and the NBA is full of guys his size. Perhaps that is the verdict Grunfeld reached on Gray.

By the way, Ivan, sorry to bring it up, but you reported a couple weeks ago that Grunfeld was considering Gray last draft at the 18th pick. That information seemed suspect to me when I read it, and it certainly seems very suspect today after Grunfeld passed on Gray with the 47th pick.

Posted by: Sean | June 29, 2007 8:34 AM

What I never seem to understand, pick 24 - Rudy Fernandez by Phoenix traded to Portland for cash. Why can't the Wiz ever buy a late 1st round pick from someone? It seems like a worthwhile investment to either pay a 2 or 3 million for a Rudy Fernandez or Tiago Splitter and let them play in Europe for another year or 2. Every sports analysts is praising the Spurs for drafting Splitter. If Phoenix is giving their pick for cash, why not just buy that? NBA teams toss away money like for bad players all the time. It seems like a good gamble to make.

Just curious.

Posted by: Allen | June 29, 2007 8:52 AM

Allen, that is a very, very good question, but the answer simply is that Abe doesn't want to cough up three million. Hey, neither do I. That is chump change for Paul Allen, but the Wizards don't got it like that. Personally, I would rather the Wizards spend that money on their players rather than giving it to Phoenix.

Posted by: Sean | June 29, 2007 8:56 AM

Based on last night's draft, and barring any trades, the current lineup for next season:

PG: Gil, Daniels
SG: Young
SF: Butler, McGuire (likely D-league)
PF: Jamison, Songalia, Blatche
C: Haywood, Thomas, Pecherov

So there are a couple of questions:
PG: My guess is that Grunfeld brings in a couple free agent/undrafted PGs for summer league and lets them compete with Donell. Whoever prevails is the third string PG.
SG: Stevenson, Mason and Hayes are all possibilities here. So would a free agent signing.
SF: Hayes is an option here, too, especially as a one-year offer sheet signing. Given the openings at SG and SF, I'm guessing the team will bring back two guys out of Stevenson, Hayes or Mason. I would list them in that order. Can Nocioni play SG?
PF: The team is set here, isn't it?
C: Set here, too, it would seem (I know, quantity, not quality), meaning that Ruffin and Booth are gone.

Posted by: Sean | June 29, 2007 9:09 AM

McGuire does 2 things very well shot block and rebound. I'll take it. Aaron Gray couldn't play in this offense and I thought that'd be pretty obvious. My pick at 47 would have been Herbert Hill from Providence. He can score, rebound, defend and block shots. But I'm not gonna whine because they picked someone else.

Lets go get Dowdell, Traore, Visser and Brandon Heath for the summer league team.

Posted by: Johnny Boy | June 29, 2007 9:31 AM

Good to see that we're stockpiling guards while the low post remains soft as duck butter.

Posted by: seymour scagnetti | June 29, 2007 9:36 AM

No matter who the Wiz took I knew people would find something negative to talk about. I think they did well considering how late we had to pick. Let's be a little positive people. It isn't over yet. Geeze!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 9:45 AM

Sean, I'd say that Ernie will very likely trade big for small with Haywood or Etan and then possibly bring Booth back for one more year until Vereemenko can come over.
I'd say that last night's second round says alot about how much Grunfeld thinks of Vereememko and and Pecherov. I was kind of thinking we might have made a move to try and pickup and extra first rounder and have gone for Fernandez or Splitter and waited a year for them. But I quess that Ernie thinks that Navarro and Veremeenko will both be here by next summer and that both are better players.
It sure looks like Grunfeld regards Pecherov as his center of the future, I just don't think that both Haywood and Etan will be back next season and by next summer I'd think they'd both are gone.

Posted by: GM | June 29, 2007 9:53 AM

Ivan or Lee,

any preliminary word on who the bullets are looking at as undrafted free agents?

Posted by: hmmmmm | June 29, 2007 10:08 AM

Navarro will not be here anytime soon and that includes next year. His situation will not change next year or the year after that. 10 million buyout... I think the GM decided that the centers available were not worth the pick and thus they will bring in some free agent bigs that they worked out but did not get drafted. I think Pech will be playing center this year, if not the starting center.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 10:16 AM

I wasn't initially happy with Nick Young, I know he was the highest rated player available, but the largest problem with the Wiz is their lack of athleticism up front, for rebounding and shotblocking. The offense, whether you like the style of whether you like Gilbert, is fine, one of the top 10 offenses in the league. But when have you ever seen Thomas, Haywood, Jamison etc. get a rebound that wasn't right to them, or block a shot. Blatche can, but he doesn't play. So I hoped that the Wiz would draft someone to fill that void. But ... then EG takes this guy McGuire in the second round, and that is supposedly exactly what he does. Led his league in blocked shots as a 3??? That is great news, hopefully he can adjust quickly and EJ doesn't bury him.

Hopefully Young and McGuire get it together sooner rather than later and we can have

Starters:
Gilbert, DeShawn, Caron, Blatche, One of those two idiot centers

Bench:
Daniels, Young, McGuire, Jamison, Petch, other one of those idiot centers

Probably too much to ask though.

Posted by: Joe | June 29, 2007 10:17 AM

I think you lineup is exactly what we will see, except Petch for Blatche. I just do not see him starting next year over Petch who, I think is a better player (not better athleticly. Also, Jamison will probably be playing SF and the first man off the bench, while Songaila will be the PF off the bench.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2007 10:25 AM

I agree with the poster that said Herbert Hill would be a good pick in the second round, but McGuire has a reputation for a good defender. Since they have decided to continue with Arenas as a PG, they did well to get Nick Young at 16. He is a good shooter and if the Wizards hire Thibodeau maybe he can help turn Young into a good defender.
Ernie Grunfeld has never seemed like a big risktaker in the draft (he seems to save it for trades or free agency) so Sean Williams (while I would have been in favor of it) is not the kind of direction EG would go in.
With only Zach Randolph getting dealt last night there is still a lot of trading to be done and hopefully EG will use that to the Wizards' advantage.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 29, 2007 10:32 AM

Thanks Sean and Johnny Boy on clearing some things up for me on the Gray issue I posted about. I have no "inside stuff" on McGuire because ESPN's "sorry draft day coverage" gave me nothing, so maybe I jumped the gun on my assestment of him.

All I saw was 6'8 and I said that's all we need is more "3's". I would have liked to hear what Jay Bilias had to say about him if ESPN did not screw up their coverage on the Wizards 47nd pick.

As for the unknown poster, we are not being negative or attempting to find something negative. EG is one of the top GM's in the league. I was here with the Bullets when Unseld was running things as GM. Need I say anymore????? (enough said).

I know a good GM when I see one. Picking Redd, Blatche and fleecing Jamison from Dallas and Caron from LA for "overhyped" Stackhouse and Darin Harris (#5 pick) and "underachieving" Kwayme Brown were strokes of genius.

Not matching Larry Hughes 70 million contract was also very smart (although I did not agree at the time and I was calling EG and Abe every name in the book at the time). But guess what, looks like EG knew something I did not know. Maybe the same thing will happen with this guy McGuire.

Ernie only screwed up on one move as Wiz GM and that was matching the Bucks over inflated contract offer to Etan Thomas. I give EG a pass on that one because he was just hired by Abe and he probably did not have enough time to do his research on it because he only had "x" amount of days to match the contract.

If you look at the so called "finding something negative posts" all people are trying to say is we need some front court "size" that is capable of playing some "strong" and "weak" side help defense on a consistant basis. We do not have that now with Haywood or Thomas. Ruffin is the only one with decent lateral movement, but he gives you nothing else.

I was mentioning Gray because I have seen him play and he plays with his back to the basket. Enough said right there. We have a "slew" of big men on our team who play face up ball only...!!!! Except for Songalia, who can play "face up" and "back to the basket"; but he is to small to play the "5". That was my reason for "plucking" Gray.

Lastly, some posters might be talking about the guy from BC (Sean Williams) who the Nets took because of the reasons I just mentioned above. I wanted him too, but I was afraid he might get here and get a taste of DC's nightlife and we would all be reliving Rod Strickland and Chris Webber horror stories all over again.

The dude likes weed and that my friend will be an ongoing problem, trust me. That stuff leaves you to stealing, drinking, unruly behavior, driving while impared, shooting weapons in public places and etc. and etc. Uncle Abe was having "none" of that.

Posted by: mikie | June 29, 2007 10:34 AM

Henry, Henry, Henry!!Yes! You took the words right out of my mouth. Although I am sure the poster dude Kalorama will argue you down or dispute you(which he does to everybody - calls you a troll or something lame)it doesn't matter. What you say is true. This franchise(Coach Jordan) does not thoroughly develop and training its players. Their track record of players leaving and developing elsewhere - speaks volumes. Grunfeld(best thing to happen to this franchise)will be changing things soon - another mediocre year of Small Ball Jordan & he's out. Depending on thei goals. It can't be a chamionship.

Seymour said it best - Unless they're training Etan, Blatche, Brendan or Songalia RIGHT NOW on "how to be an NBA center- the low post will be as soft as duck butter.

Wonder who will replace O'Malley

Great observations Henry.

Posted by: Wizfan4life | June 29, 2007 11:35 AM

Wizfan4life:
If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it or respond to it. That simple. But we can do without your childish jibes and personal insults. There's enough of that going on here. Stick to Bball or do us all a favor and take it somewhere else.

Back to basketball, if that's okay with you.

Haywood played four years at one of the best basketball learning centers in the NCAA, was all-ACC and 2nd team All-American. The notion that he's some babe in the woods who needs help finding his way onto the court is ridiculous. He's a 6-year vet. He's well past the point where he needs his hand held. It's up to him to put in the work and give the effort every time he's on the floor. Anyone who's actually watched him play knows he doesn't do that. Coaches play the guys they can count on. Brendan has done little to earn Jordan's trust.

As for "their track record of players leaving and developing elsewhere" ... Aside from Ben Wallace, who are all these players that they Wiz kept around, failed to develop, and let go?

Webber and Howard were all-Stars in D.C. (and Howard was aROY candidate). Rip was a 20 ppg scorer for the Wiz. Rasheed was a double-digit scorer as rookie, his one year here. Their problem hasn't been failure to develop players. Their problem has been failing to keep obviously good young players when they had them (something that the people proposing ideas like trading Blatche and Young for Camby might want to consider).

Posted by: kalorama | June 29, 2007 12:08 PM

"Stuart Scott's first words to him? "When your brother was murdered..."

Yeah that was rough I thought Henry. :(

Good pick never the less.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | June 29, 2007 12:53 PM

Well, Well, Well just as expected -
Mr. Kalorama. Its getting old

Its an open public forum. A blog.
The topic is NBA, NCAA basketball
Your correction & editing not required. Simply post YOUR OWN thoughts & opinions

Everybody's entitled to their opinion whether you like or agree with it. Thats life. Get over it.

Last time I checked - you didn't turn into God, Ben Bradlee, Mike Lee, Wilbon, Stein, Kornheiser,Chad Ford, David Stern nor Ernie Grunfeld. Keep it movin

Posted by: Wizfan4life | June 29, 2007 3:47 PM

Well said..

Now...

Trying to figure out the bench...

Whats the deal with Booth & Ruffin?
Are they also still under contract?

Posted by: Steve | June 29, 2007 4:33 PM

I dont see what all the hype is about over Nick Young. Yes he is a good offensive player who needs work on Defense. What i want to know, why isn't the Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld showing any interest in obtaining Kevin Garnett. He is a proven allstar player who still wants to WIN, He has great offense and plays Defense. I say we should have packed up Haywood, Antawn Jamison, micheal ruffin and our first rounds draft pick and tried to be some type of force in the paint.

Posted by: roy the rhythmm | June 29, 2007 5:11 PM

I dont see what all the hype is about over Nick Young. Yes he is a good offensive player who needs work on Defense. What i want to know, why isn't the Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld showing any interest in obtaining Kevin Garnett. He is a proven allstar player who still wants to WIN, He has great offense and plays Defense. I say we should have packed up Haywood, Antawn Jamison, micheal ruffin and our first rounds draft pick and tried to be some type of force in the paint.

Posted by: roy the rhythmm | June 29, 2007 5:11 PM

I dont see what all the hype is about over Nick Young. Yes he is a good offensive player who needs work on Defense. What i want to know, why isn't the Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld showing any interest in obtaining Kevin Garnett. He is a proven allstar player who still wants to WIN, He has great offense and plays Defense. I say we should have packed up Haywood, Antawn Jamison, micheal ruffin and our first rounds draft pick and tried to be some type of force in the paint.

Posted by: roy the rhythmm | June 29, 2007 5:11 PM

"Its an open public forum. A blog.
The topic is NBA, NCAA basketball
Your correction & editing not required. Simply post YOUR OWN thoughts & opinions"

And when it's my opinion that someone else's opinion is off the mark, I say so. That simple. Deal with it or not. But please refrain from addressing me directly with your discontent as it's a waste of everyone's time.

"Everybody's entitled to their opinion whether you like or agree with it"

Exactly.

The fact that you are able to understand this makes you look doubly foolish for not adhering to that standard yourself.

If you really believe everyone is entitled to their opinions, why, pray tell, do you seem to have such a problem with the fact that my opinions sometimes happen not to agree with yours?

Again, if you don't like what I have to say, feel free not to comment on it. But don't expect that your juvenile insults and name calling will have any effect on my willingness to post my opinion about whatever I want whenever I please.

Posted by: kalorama | June 29, 2007 5:59 PM

Ivan,

PLEEASE tell me we are picking up Zabian Dowdell for summerleague and training camp!! I am really surprised he was not picked.

I'd like to know what you think about McGuire. I know you were big on Taurean Green who was still on the board.

Still if we can get Dowdell, I think he'd be a nice fit for us, and would be as good as Green. Good size and length, and all-around skill at the point.

Posted by: Darnell | June 29, 2007 7:31 PM

DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM


Darnell, on TrueHoop Dowdell says he's gonna try to find his way onto the Seattle summer league squad to play w/ Durant. I guess you can't blame him, since most PGs look at the Wiz and see Gil playing all those minutes. Not much left for them especially compared to Seattle's situation.


DCMAN88- DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HE USES INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

Posted by: Wizzin' By Ya | June 30, 2007 1:13 PM

The most impressive thing about Nick Young is probably his supposed 39" vertical. He didn't seem to get up that high in his highlight reel, but he did say he wanted to participate in the next dunk contest.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 30, 2007 11:39 PM

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