WAS DESHAWN REALLY "SLEEPING"?

Well, the Times seems to report it a little different, as does a previous poster (in the last blog entry), Grace, who claims to live in the neighborhood.

She should have as much beef with the so-called "security".

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070821/SPORTS03/108210077/1005/SPORTS

And remember that Dee-Shawn slept with a 14 year old when he was 21.

C'mon Dood!

I'm just saying, everyone can draw their own conclusions about race, etc.

In any case, there are about a MILLION flags here...that you really can't blame people for drawing their own conclusions when all those involved have left the door wide open.

D-Steve was asleep. Please.

k-dub

DS sleeping is not an unusual thing. He sleeps on the defense end too.

i'm glad no one is pressing charges.
stop snitchin'.

NO SNITCHING!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!

Wiz had a lot of off season noise i think this will make us work harder when play times come.

Thanks for the "insight" anonymous poster #3.

But the whole game has the idea of "snitching" wrong.

This is a good article that appeared in yesterday's post.

The Real Meaning of 'Snitching'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/17/AR2007081701715.html

Spread the word to your hood.

k-dub

To be honest, as much as I may hope Ivan's story is the right one, I'm inclined to believe the Times's version a little more. Why would Brandon Hunter just show up at Deshawn's house at 4 in the morning if Deshawn was in there sleeping? It makes a lot more sense to me that DS was just getting home when the shooting started. I don't think that makes him a thug, though God knows what led up to that mess. Also, I'm not sure about the Times feeling a need to include that statutory rape charge in their article, but maybe that's only because I didn't know about it and would have preferred to keep it that way.

Oh, also, thanks, Ivan. Keep up the good work, please.

i hope the security guard lost her job.. i mean wtf!? ;p

Please do not refer the "Stop Snitching" label on this subject. A Snitch is defined as, if I rob a bank with you and I get caught then I tell on you. That's snitching and it is a code amongst ALL criminals alike Black or White. Snitching is not if someone shoots me and I tell on them. So do not bring up Camron who is an idiot and a clown to the utmost in this blog. This so-called gangster is by no means relevant in this story or in life.

What happened to all the ho's that showed up? Did they all die?

What has gotten into folks???

So what if he was sleeping or not! If he was up and some intruder came up on his property shooting at his friends and his house he has all the RIGHT to protect himself.

If you dont agree w/me then you are NOT a man!!! If someone is trying to cause harm to you I recommend you to PROTECT yourselves.

who really cares, if no body is going to cooperate and press charges then nothing here really matters unless you are truly afraid of DeShawn causing problems on our team (which I am not). There is no need for the ridiculous speculation of what DS could have been doing or what could have happened until you either here more about the truth or you were there. If it goes away then who cares??

DS's HOA should give DS the boot. You can't have your boys letting random people through the gate who end up shooting up the block while kids are in the PJ's thinking about school the next morning.

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who really cares, if no body is going to cooperate and press charges then nothing here really matters unless you are truly afraid of DeShawn causing problems on our team (which I am not). There is no need for the ridiculous speculation of what DS could have been doing or what could have happened until you either here more about the truth or you were there. If it goes away then who cares??

Posted by: LooseCannon | August 21, 2007 02:59 PM "

Yeah, it really doesn't matter unless you have an owner who changed the name of his franchise because he doesn't want it to be represented by "bullets" and negativity form that.

See, what AB did and what DS did aren't far apart. AB went trolling for hoes while working with a wallet with $100. If he had the contract already, he'd have his boys go out to da clubs and bring the ho's back to his crib. Either way, they both lose this time.

I don't care if DS was asleep or awake or whatever, and I don't really care about what happened at all, but it all just seems a little suspicious. I doubt he was up to anything all that bad if he was up to anything bad at all. Maybe he lied because he didn't want a woman to know he was bringing girls home. It doesn't really matter, but combined with Andray's solicitation (which I also couldn't care less about morally, but find to demonstrate awful judgment) it casts kind of an ugly light on the team right now.

Ultimately, though, what really matters is nobody got hurt (except for Curtis Ruff, who sounds like he deserves to get shot).

Abe is not gonna be happy about this if the Times's version is closer to the truth on this, ol' Abe is gonna have a little chat with Mr. 50.

Another fine example of black athletes in action off the court or field. They can't hack the real world. Martin Luther King would be turning his head in shame about what has become of his dream.

No matter what is written, what is Deshawn says, no one is going to believe him. How do we know that he "wasn't" asleep. We all know that newspapers don't always print the truth and why did they have to throw in the statutory rape incident other then to cast doubt on him and portray him in a negative light. Besides, what does one thing have to do with another? This society loves dirt on people who happen to have money. It likes to build people up and then tear them down. Hey what ever happened, happened. I am just glad Deshawn wasn't hurt and pray that this incident gives him pause to reevaulate his friends and associates.

When it get to be
you ID an enemy
somehow that's snitchin?
Ignorant: that's intelligence,
Should be personally enriching to see your opponent checkmate and neutered.
some of these young bucks need to be tutored
in OG tactics, tactical deployment
resources spent elsewhere for your own enjoyment
use the police and the system for leverage like judo
that's not collusion, it's just not no pseudo-
bravado, some fake gangsta nada--
learn from the oldheads, better ask your godfathers

eg: Ice-T, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HHptNp5F7E
the lesson is survival, there's a million ways to keep ahead of your rivals.
No one owes the ignorant any loyalty son,
the best way to profit is never need your gun,
keep the profile low, profit increasing, slow and steady is fine if you don't plan on 'deceasing'
for a good long chunk of forever.
But to let a fool take himself out-- is that snitching? No it's clever.

Thanks for the good report, Ivan.

We keep paying these guys millions of dollars aand they continue to pal around with their hoodlum friends. What do you think is going to happen? Need I say the word VICK???

In DeShawn's case I wouldn't hold it against him if he defended his house with a personal weapon, especially in the days of Eddie Curry and 'Toine Fathead Wlakaah getting their own personal 'shock and awe' home invasion situations.

In that (purely speculative) case I wouldn't be surprised if the others covered it up to 'protect' him.

But whatever, if he had any sort of endorsement hopes for whatever, it does tend to blow a few holes in those hopes, so if all is on the up and up it would make the most sense for him to come clean and testify on whatever he knows then volunteer for whatever 'anti-violence' initiatives the NBA wants to come up with.

That's the way to make real dollars.

I see Roger Goodell type regimes starting to ramp up. Players association or no.

Good post doclinkin!!!

To the guys in the "HOOD", stay there.

Here's an aerial photo of DeShawn's house and neighborhood.

http://www.zillow.com/search/Search.htm?addrstrthood=1348+Lake+Whitney+Drive&citystatezip=orlando%2C+fl&GOButton=%3CSPAN%3EGO%3C%2FSPAN%3E

This is an old aerial photo, however, as you can see that although few homes are pictured around DeShawn's, if you click on the various lots, details will pop up showing the details of the homes built on those lots. So there actually are more homes around DeShawn's than are pictured.

If you click on the pop up box for DeShawn's house, you will see a closer view of the house. (I notice DeShawn has a trampoline -- most likely just in case Gil visits.)

Ronaldo,

Im glad I didnt stay in the hood. Anyone in the hood doesnt want to stay in the hood. It is tough out there when you may have felons for neighbors. My school was a disappointment. Lucky thing my family and I had strong values. It is funny to hear you say such a thing because not all people who are from the "Hood" are bad. Its just people get caught up in life's situations. I am proud of where I come from because that is what makes you strong. Turning your life from nothing to something leaves you with some pride of your accomplishments.

"To Andray Blatche, perhaps. Blatche is the NBA forward who thought it made sense to celebrate his $12.5 million contract offer from the Washington Wizards with a night on the town with posse member Gregory Palmer. Between the two of them, according to reports, they decided it would be good to share an $80 hooker. Turns out the hooker was an undercover cop.

Turns out Blatche is a complete idiot. The Washington Post's Ivan Carter wrote last year that he had "heard from a good source that (Blatche) was sleeping at Verizon Center for several nights as a rookie because he couldn't pay rent." As a rookie, Blatche was living on a two-year, $1.1 million contract. It's not easy to fund a posse and pay rent on that. A posse costs dope money, yo."
- excerpt from Gregg Doyle's column today at CBSSportsline.com

LOL...this article (subject: Vick) is pretty good and this excerpt made me laugh. Seriously, Ivan, did you report that Andray slept at the phone booth bc he could not make rent??? If so, that is completely ridiculous. Otherwise, Doyle is quoting you out of context. Hilarious...Andray is starting to strick me as not just immature, but maybe not so bright. Hope I'm wrong bc you don't win championships with a bunch of fools on your team.

Anybody know who's AB's agent? He should be fired for letting AB spend 1.1 mil in 2 years (minus taxes).

Oops...the last post was me.

I dont trust the Times, and I wasted 3 seconds of my life reading Anti Pro Sports' (resident blog MLK Jr. expert) bigoted comment.

DC Man, I GUARANTEE you he burned through that in no time. Even after taxes we're talking about $660,000 or over $300 grand a year. If you can't make rent on that, your dumb. Hell, I would not be shocked if the contract he just signed got him out of serious debt. And, he almost blew it! No pun intended.

Not to mention the per diem NBA players get in season. I would not be surprised if it's hundreds of dollars a day or otherwise more than what a typical person makes in a day.

Was just thinking. Are Deshawn and Co. not cooperating bc they are afraid Deshawn will be identified as the "shooting guard"?
Just asking.
Hahahahhahah....knee slapper.

All pro athletes should consult their attorneys before leaving the house and every hour they are out, because they obviously don't have common sense, let alone the intelligence of a 10 year old. Keep you mouth shut about criminals and snitching and watch either you or your family be that next victim. I hate cops, but if I see something go down, I'll sing like a canary. Thats how justice works.

I'd like to know who stole my ATVs.

I'm always sleeping when four people are screaming and shooting at each other at my front door and I've got babies. WTF

Wayne from Bowie, I was being facetious. I too lived in the "hood", except, in my times we called it the "getho". I also rode away from it, and left a lot of good friends who did not want to rise above of it - oh, yeah, the excuses and the blames were genuine and plenty, but you can either sulk on them and drown or rise above it, the final result is upon the person. I still talk to some of my old friends, but they must cross the river on their own if they want to visit me, we live in two separate worlds and we must abide by each other's rules. There are some people on this blog, I assume by their posting, that can not understand that once you are out of the "hood" the rules have changed and that one must abide by them - to those people, I say again, stay in the hood and sulk or rise above it.
By the way, I think Ivan can help by writing for all and not just for the hood. Does he really need to bring his writings to slangs like the "hoods", "his boys", etc? He might think this is a black thing, but it isn't, it is a garbage thing.
I am glad you made it out. I know I am.

The Orlando Sentinel says Mister 50 was at the club, too.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-bk-shooting08202007,0,7771353.story

"By the way, I think Ivan can help by writing for all and not just for the hood. Does he really need to bring his writings to slangs like the "hoods", "his boys", etc? He might think this is a black thing, but it isn't, it is a garbage thing."

in present day America, it's really neither. It's not like the words"hood" and "his boys" are some kind of heavily-encrypted jive-based code. Everybody knows what they mean, and plenty of people who aren't Black or from the hood use them frequently.

Times change.

You are right about some people taking the "easier" way out by following the cycle but from your previous post you seem to agree with woof about DS wanting to "keep it real" and hang with gangbangers and going to sketchy ass clubs.

Now with the information given how do you draw a conclusion that DS is at fault and somehow perceived as a "gangbanger"?

DC in da HOUSE!!!!!!

Must be a black thing.

Hey Rayful, good to hear from you. How's life doin', excuse me, doin' life?

My question is, if this Ruff dude "has been arrested at least 14 times on 44 drug and violence-related charges," what's he doing out on the streets?

I'm livin' it up here in 'Zona. Shhh, I'm supposed to be in the witness protection program.

K Rayful. DC hasn't changed since you "left" except now the athletes have all the play. Money's a lot better too.

I can see how Ronnie Milsap did not press charges or claim to see anything... he's blind isn't he?

snitches get stitches

DC Man obviously has nothing going on in his life so he gets a kick out of calling women "hos" and also criticizing Deshawn! Shocker....he left Gil alone for a second.

Your ugly attitude and derogatory terms for women are probably only one reason they do not give you the time of day. B**tard!

That was funny tbro. My question is that if DeShawn is shaken, shouldn't he be pressing charges against Ruff for reckless endangerment or disturbing the peace or something? Or couldn't the neighbor whose house was hit do that?

"DC Man obviously has nothing going on in his life so he gets a kick out of calling women "hos" and also criticizing Deshawn! Shocker....he left Gil alone for a second.

Your ugly attitude and derogatory terms for women are probably only one reason they do not give you the time of day. B**tard!

Posted by: | August 21, 2007 07:50 PM "

Ok, sorry. I guess these sweet ladies must have taken a wrong turn into DS's gated community at 4:30am in the morning while going to bible study. My bad bro'.

"That was funny tbro. My question is that if DeShawn is shaken, shouldn't he be pressing charges against Ruff for reckless endangerment or disturbing the peace or something? Or couldn't the neighbor whose house was hit do that?

Posted by: George Templeton | August 21, 2007 08:05 PM "

George, I think the message is clear. If you snitch, you and your family die.

We need a clever name now that degrades the Wizards name, like when the TrailBlazers were the JailBlazers. Any suggestions? The Haz-zards or something....This just in: Lame Wizards mascot G-wiz caught exposing himself near White House....The only solution to all of this, obviously, is to change the name back to the Bullets. Or something a lot less gay.

screw this crap......where the hoes at?

How many Wiz kids have had run ins with the law?

AB
Gilby
Caron
DS
?

Going by the 12 man roster, that's 1/3 the team.

Orlando? If I had DS money, I certainly wouldn't live in Orlando. The armpit of the SE; no beaches, no culture, just big bugs and rodents, crappy food and annoying tourists and conventioneers. Sounds like he has a good reason to put his house on the market and move to another city...like D.C. maybe!

I think DS is silent because he did something to initiate this episode.

so Mr. Grunfeld, you could have had Juan Carlos Navarro, the best guard in Euro ball, but instead you chose Mr. Thug Life. that was a nice move. he can't shoot a basketball, but he can fire a gun.

I'm telling you, get some new friends DeShawn or you're gonna be in the cell right next to Vick man.

- Ray

http://www.destinynightclub.net/
what a club! see if you can spot DS in the photos Saturday night.

Ivan:
I doubt that you'll be wading through the awful posts here to get to mine, but....

Do people in Minnesota feel like they are cursed now that KG is gone? First the bridge, now Eddie Griffin?

DC MAN88- Dont forget to add Gil to that list of players who were running from the cops; do you all remember when he was dodging his children's mother b/c he didnt want to get served with court papers?! To me that is low down... I don't have any respect for ANYONE who turns their back on their child. I've heard a ton of rumors on how Gil treated his children's mother, but will not repeat them b/c they are in fact "rumors." But I can tell you one thing I believe them!

Believe what you want,
I have seen Gil out recently with the mother of his children and his kids and his (or her) mom. They were out on a nice day enjoying themselves. I'm not saying they don't have problems, but I think a lot of people know very little and say too much.

Believe this, after he was served they reconciled and have had another child together. There are a number of reasons beyond avoiding taking care of his children, why a person might not want to be served legal papers.

Take your rumors elsewhere.

DC Man88 is the smartest man (or woman???) to post on these boards. He isn't afraid to tell it like it is. I think he should be the new Wizards Insider because he has been right everytime so far and you guys should give him a chance.

Hey Ernie
Minnesota has got to be ripe for a fleecing...nows the time to move ET and AD and that draft pick. Give Kev a call and help a brother out.

"DC MAN88- Dont forget to add Gil to that list of players who were running from the cops; do you all remember when he was dodging his children's mother b/c he didnt want to get served with court papers?! To me that is low down... I don't have any respect for ANYONE who turns their back on their child. I've heard a ton of rumors on how Gil treated his children's mother, but will not repeat them b/c they are in fact "rumors." But I can tell you one thing I believe them!

Posted by: WIZ102007 | August 21, 2007 11:17 PM "

Yes, and Les BouleZ as an organization helped him too.

"DC Man88 is the smartest man (or woman???) to post on these boards. He isn't afraid to tell it like it is. I think he should be the new Wizards Insider because he has been right everytime so far and you guys should give him a chance.

Posted by: | August 22, 2007 02:11 AM "

Sorry, doesn't pay enough.

What if DS got injured in the altercation? Would it have been wise if we kept JCN for insurance? Just a thought.

I find it hard to beleive that DS would have allowed this dude in his house.
How did that conversation go with Hunter and/or friend and DS. I have these ladies who want to come thru but they want to know if its cool to bring their friend Ruff??? C'mon man!

Ruff seemed like he followed the ladies like a P*** whipped dude and told the gaurds he was with them.

Now maybe the gaurds do not want to take blame but obviously the guy was uninvited or else they would have had this argument in the house.

ALL OF YOU ALL HAVE TO START THINKIN!

But what do I expect from the same people who say lets trade AJ, Nick Young, and a 1st round for a DAMN Jermain O'neal.

This does not add up. Boy or not, you come to my crib and shoot up the place and hit a neighborhouse to boot. It does not add up. At least have the police save the person from himself!

Lastly, I'm a married old man now far removed from my 20's. But these NBA players are absolutely weak when it comes to the ladies! I think of the stuff I did back in the day without being a multi-millionaire or 6-figure baller. These guys should handle their business much better than they do.

Here is my take?
I believe DS and the boys were on the way home and stoped bye the BP gas station to fill up. They saw a couple of "hookers", got them to follow them to the house. However DS and the boys didn't know they had a street pimp in the escalade. And when they didn't want to fork over the money to have a good time that is when all hell broke loose! If you read the sential newspaper in Orlando they met the girls at BP gas station. That probably explain the argument between the "pimp" and his girl out side DS house!

The Godfather - your take makes more sense than any others offered here. And since we just make up stuff to fill in the blanks anyhow, your story is the one I'm going with. And I'll spread it around like its the gospel. Next thing you know, people will actually think and believe it, and argue it into the ground, like most of of the nonsense on this blog.

are the jailblazers coming east?

DC Man, hopefully you know that poster was joking about you being the smartest person on here....surely you are at least smart enough to realize that?

RobGreg, i know what you are saying. I am not old as dust yet, but I don't need no hoes that is FOR SURE. You gotta have game off the court and i just do not SEE IT

"DC Man, hopefully you know that poster was joking about you being the smartest person on here....surely you are at least smart enough to realize that?

Posted by: | August 22, 2007 07:54 PM "

I am smart enough to know you're a joke too.

"DC Man, hopefully you know that poster was joking about you being the smartest person on here....surely you are at least smart enough to realize that?

Posted by: | August 22, 2007 07:54 PM "

I am smart enough to know you're a joke too.
Posted by: DC Man88 | August 22, 2007 09:13 PM

When you say "too" that means you are admitting you are a joke! ha ha

""DC Man, hopefully you know that poster was joking about you being the smartest person on here....surely you are at least smart enough to realize that?

Posted by: | August 22, 2007 07:54 PM "

I am smart enough to know you're a joke too.
Posted by: DC Man88 | August 22, 2007 09:13 PM

When you say "too" that means you are admitting you are a joke! ha ha

Posted by: | August 23, 2007 02:15 AM "

Duh, I think you have bad reading comprehension. The "too" was for you, along with the original poster (possibly you also) who sent the false praises which meant nothing to me. Idiot.

Don't understand for the life of me why these athletes cannot let go of the posse! Brandon Hunter had a cup of tea in the NBA, was probably a good teammate to DS and now DS feels some loyalty to support him. Makes no sense. These guys are mini-corporations, yet they fail to realize the damage they can possibly do to themselves and their futures by hanging with these low-lifes. Vick, AB and DS all need to wake up. Give them all a copy of Bill Rhodens book about the black athlete and their slave mentality, lock them in a room and force them to read it!

What else are these idiots going to do? They aren't exactly the pillars of their community. How much more time can be spent on Madden '08 or spent at the car dealership or at Jacob the Jeweler? For sure, DS isn't busy preparing his admissions application for college.

As I've said many times, if most of these athaletes didn't have their athletic ability, they'd be dead or in jail.

What we have here is classic athletic idiocy. Who in their right mind would expect a bunch of uneducated, classless, untrained,ill-mannered, characterless, country guys to do anything different? They surround themselves with bunch of ignoramuses. Can they even read?

Who the hell ever heard of a Millionaire acting like this bunch of fools?
Fighting in the streets..pickin up $40 ho's

Blatche? I read has a public defender(free) lawyer...claims "he's broke"
How can you burn thru 1.1 Mil in a year?

For goodness sake...Stevenson has a mouth FULL OF GOLD TEETH!! Who does he model himself after? Flava Flav??

Florida seems to breed their athletes the just like Vick did his dogs. He & his brother(rapist, petihile, drunk, drug addict - classic examples.

Iignorant, rude,classless, southern - hill- billies!

DS Came to town fiance in tow..threw big birthday party for her at LOVE. During the fiance's party - DS was gettin busy w/someone else..in the "restroom" She stood to thank him..anouncing their wedding plans. DS walks out - dumped & dismissed her then proceeded to announce he was now engaged to new bathroom lover?
So - it might have been a woman shooting outside his place...

Bottom line? Mgmt kept his sorry behind becuz of Arenas. Not one team showed interest. Obviously - mgmt wants to keep Gil Arenas happy - Therefore - he better get their sorry butts in control..
He asked for them..
Another waste? Ed Tapscott...who hates EJ.
Whats that about?

As you can see - not the least surprised nor impressed.

As if you all haven't figured it out yet..
Haywood is here because Ernie Grunfeld wanted to keep him here. Grunfeld deals with the players - Jordan can't communicate with. Most specifically ? Gilbert as well.

This is Jordan's last year..Writing is on the wall....

Hey who wrote the comment on here about Tapscott making comments Jordan was a dumb idot & criticised his irrational rotations?

And he'll work w/a man he doesn't respect? Now thats an odd picture.

So, starbucks how do you really feel? lol.

"DS Came to town fiance in tow..threw big birthday party for her at LOVE. During the fiance's party - DS was gettin busy w/someone else..in the "restroom" She stood to thank him..anouncing their wedding plans. DS walks out - dumped & dismissed her then proceeded to announce he was now engaged to new bathroom lover?
So - it might have been a woman shooting outside his place..."

That is some SERIOUS juice by Starbucks. I nominate Starbucks to have a sister blog to this blog to give us the real dirt.

I applaud "Brotherman" for recommending one of the best books...

"40 Million Dollary Slaves" by William Rhoden of the New York Times.

Absolutely..the best..one of my favorites.

As a matter of fact, I asked Etan Thomas had he read it & his thoughts...

"He thought it was very good..but didn't have a clear understand of it and what it meant"

Recalling the conversation, I'd say he still doesn't. Lets hope he learns to improve his work ethic and is a bit less lethargic.

As some may know..I'm about having a strong work ethic towards a common goal. NOT just "the playoffs" first round every year. I'm for improving yr after yr..with the ultimate goal of a championship.

The "rocky" "gladiator" syndrome

My guess is..Ernie G is pacing himself but with his eyes on the prize...
the interesting part is which chess pieces he'll be moving around on the board in order to get to the kings row & "checkmate"

I'm willing to stay tuned.

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