Songaila a game-time decision

The Wizards practiced today but forward Darius Songaila did not. Songaila suffered a mild left ankle sprain during last night's win over New Jersey and was walking with a limp as he left the lockeroom.

He'll be further evaluated before tomorrow night's game against Minnesota. His absence left the team with nine healthy players but that's really not anything new. With Gilbert Arenas, Etan Thomas and Oleksiy Pecherov out, the Wiz have been shorthanded all season. This is an issue I've addressed repeatedly this season because even when Gilbert was playing, he wasn't going through full practices.

Eddie Jordan said back then that he and his staff would have to be ''creative" and that's what they've done. The good news is that Roger Mason Jr. and Nick Young have really stepped up lately and I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan continued looking for opportunities to play rookie Dominic McGuire, who saw some action last night.

By Ivan Carter |  December 10, 2007; 12:29 PM ET
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I guess Gilby's bum knee had a detrimental effect on Gilby's relationship with his babies's momma. Being home too often so much during the season that "you ask for space b/c everything feels closed in." Smelly diapers will do that too you, I guess, even in a huge mansion in Great Falls. Maybe if he slept in that hyperbaric chamber more, then he could tune out those diapers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/10/AR2007121000006.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 12:41 PM

DC Dude/Woman

You are a class A jerk! Get out of here! I wish they would ban your ignorant a##!

Your fixation with Gilbert is scary! What happened, he rebuffed your advances or something? You need help dude/woman or whoever you are! We laugh at you daily with your ignorant Gil rantings! By the way, thanks for the inadvertant $10. I won the bet. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 12:47 PM

Stop being a jerker Lisa. I posted the URL b/c it's current information as reported in today's Washington Post.

By you coming up with silly assumptions about me make you seem even more of a stupid Gilby lover. If you don't like the news being reported, then don't read the news. So silly.

BTW, Gilby is the one who needs the help. If he's tired of babies and feeling closed in, not only should he have not had them moved into his mansion, but he shouldn't have impregnated his girlfriend to begin with. Now, the babies are without a daddy just like Gilby was without a mommy when he grew up.

Maybe down the line, Laura will bring the two kids to a game and march them down the aisle at whatever arena and the kids will scream out to Gilby and say "Hey Gilby, I'm your son/daughter. Can you buy me a hot dog?" Just like his mom did to him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 12:56 PM

Well....time to play some small ball then.

Fat'oine will probably be out again. Good, cause he played well against the Wiz last time.

Other than that, Al Jeff is the only T-Wolves post scoring threat. (and I wasn't even calling Walker a post threat)

So, the Wiz may not need D-Song on Tuesday...but it'd at least be nice to know that he was available.

But so far, injuries have exposed those who desire to step up.

Ring ring...pick up the phone Dominic McGuire, it's for you holmes.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | December 10, 2007 12:58 PM

DC I love your posts..they're entertaining and hillarious...Keep it up.

Posted by: BTW | December 10, 2007 12:58 PM


Wow...that's some cold-blooded stuff from DCMan88. He's sure good at making generalizations.

But the thing to do sometimes is to not even respond to him. Let him post his posts, and if you don't like it, then don't pay attention.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | December 10, 2007 1:01 PM

"Wow...that's some cold-blooded stuff from DCMan88. He's sure good at making generalizations.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | December 10, 2007 01:01 PM "

If you think I'm cold, how do you think Gilby's kids/squeeze feel after getting kicked to the curb while their daddy is busy consuming his time with getting a grotto/pool "built by a guy who made Hugh Hefners?"

Silly me, but I predict more bastard children by various women being born in INOVA hospital down the street.

Maybe Gilby got fed up with Laura screaming out "Hibachi" whenever Izela or Alija put out a steaming hot and fresh diaper and she needed Gilby's help.

Please read a snippet below:

"He's doing all that important focusing-on-Gilbert stuff, according to his latest online diary postings -- reading (NBA great Walt Frazier 's memoirs), catching up on DVDs (Season 5 of "24"), experimenting with facial hair, overseeing home renovations (a new swimming pool, by "the guy who made Hugh Hefner 's")."

Which NBA owner wouldn't want to pay max money for all that and a biscuit?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 1:14 PM

My name is not Lisa. She is not the only one who posts here that think you are an idiot!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 1:37 PM

The only good thing about these injuries is

a) they are coming early in the season
b) it's forcing the wizards to play better team ball

Hopefully, when we get everybody back it doesn't take too long to mesh them all together.

Posted by: Bart | December 10, 2007 1:37 PM

DC Man88, how's your first post here relevant to Ivan's blog entry? If you have a problem with how Arenas runs his personal life, why not start your own blog, post it on extremeskins or wait until it starts impacting his play on the court?

Posted by: Bart | December 10, 2007 1:40 PM

Some people only get joy out of other people's misery. Sad commentary.

Posted by: Janitor | December 10, 2007 1:42 PM

"My name is not Lisa. She is not the only one who posts here that think you are an idiot!

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 01:37 PM "

All of you are Lisa's.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 1:45 PM

the only problem with this blog is all the irrelevant stuff that gets posted by DC Man88.

lets talk about songaila. i dont care that he is injured i think he is bad. need to win against the wolves tonight.

Posted by: andy | December 10, 2007 1:46 PM

"DC Man88, how's your first post here relevant to Ivan's blog entry? If you have a problem with how Arenas runs his personal life, why not start your own blog, post it on extremeskins or wait until it starts impacting his play on the court?

Posted by: Bart | December 10, 2007 01:40 PM "

How is your post here relevant to Ivan's blog entry?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 1:46 PM

"Some people only get joy out of other people's misery. Sad commentary.

Posted by: Janitor | December 10, 2007 01:42 PM "

Yeah, it's tough being miserable when your actions result in your family leaving you, you're busy getting a hugh hefner pool built, busy catching up on dvd's, reading a book, and watching your facial hair grow.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 1:48 PM

"lets talk about songaila. i dont care that he is injured i think he is bad."

Didn't look so bad last night when he was their best player down the stretch.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 1:50 PM

You don't live with Gil so you don't know what made the situation the way it is. How do you know it was Gilbert that made the situation what it is. So, don't front like you got the inside scoop on his house hold unless you just happen to be his girlfriend and his babies mama. That would at least explain all the hate from you your posts. Hmm........maybe I am onto something.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 1:53 PM

You don't live with Laura so you don't know what made the situation the way it is. How do you know it wasn't Gilby that made the situation what it is. So, don't front like you got the inside scoop on his house hold unless you just happen to be Laura. That would at least explain all the hate from you your posts. Hmm........maybe I am onto something.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 1:56 PM

Songalia played well, but Butler was the best player on the court down the stretch by far!!!

Why do people here care about what Arenas does at home? Worry about your own damn home life. If he's not running a dog fighting ring, then his personal life is his personal life. Could care less. How do you know anything about his relationship with his kids DC? You don't so shut your trap!

Posted by: Rob P | December 10, 2007 2:03 PM

"You don't live with Gil so you don't know what made the situation the way it is. How do you know it was Gilbert that made the situation what it is. So, don't front like you got the inside scoop on his house hold unless you just happen to be his girlfriend and his babies mama. That would at least explain all the hate from you your posts. Hmm........maybe I am onto something.

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 01:53 PM "

Gilby, if you don't want peole commenting on your personal life, then do yourself a favor and don't post personal information/sob stories on your blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 2:07 PM

"Why do people here care about what Arenas does at home? Worry about your own damn home life. If he's not running a dog fighting ring, then his personal life is his personal life. Could care less. How do you know anything about his relationship with his kids DC? You don't so shut your trap!

Posted by: Rob P | December 10, 2007 02:03 PM

"

Rob you're a joke. If you don't like what is being written on this public blog, then close your eyes and censor yourself. Idiot.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 2:08 PM

As long as it appears we are going to talk about this stuff, let's make it relevant to the team, games, etc.

If Gilbert is having a new swimming pool added to his house, maybe he plans on being there for a while. Sounds like a re-sigining is his hope to me.

Posted by: 2cents4wiz | December 10, 2007 2:09 PM

I think DC Man88 is wrong and annoying and should likely be banned (no free speech argument here- he doesn't contribute to any discourse and is merely obscene most of the time).

With that said, it's hard to defend Gilbert in this particular instance. He shouldn't have put that information in his blog. I get that the popularity of the blog is that he doesn't just talk sports and he infuses it with his personality. However, he was guilty of oversharing and also painting an incredibly negative picture of himself when he talked about his situation with his kids and ex-girlfriend.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 2:10 PM

I wonder if we are being too quick to judge DMac. Has he really played enough this season for us to really judge what he can do (and for him to show what he can do against NBA competition)? Remeber how wrong some were about Young early on.

My brief comments on DMac in the previous thread were based on summer league play and preseason when he did get some minutes.

I really thought, as Ivan suggests above, that EJ was attempting to start getting Dmac some minutes last night. But Dmac and the group he was in with did not play well at all and it was quickly scuttled.

Mason and Young have developed to the point of contributing pretty regularly. I look for EJ to try to get DMac more minutes in the coming games.

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 2:11 PM

Ivan,

When you say they "practiced" do you mean they did some lay up lines, couple of free throw drills, suicides and then went home? I mean, what is the point of owning a team if you cant afford to field enough players to practice the sport?

Tell Abe that Wizards Insider is here to help and we'll practice with the team for some tickets.

Posted by: Ledell Eackles | December 10, 2007 2:23 PM

Back to the topic. Songolia definitely brought it last night. He played very well. Hated to see him go out with the ankle injury. Hopefully it is not a long term injury, that we don't need. I think DMac like Young will improve with minutes played. Also, how about Haywood? His shots are improving each game and I don't think he has missed very many free throws at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 2:34 PM

DCMan88 is hilarious, but somethings he said are true. Gilbert should have kept her and the kids in the house that the rookies Chuch and Larry are calling home now.

Laura got on his last nerve. That's bad when I guy tells you, you need to leave, I need my space! That's basically telling the girl that you don't want her around anymore. Plus, he tells the whole world that you kept his house dirty.

For those two at Reliable Source, let this relationship die in piece.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 2:37 PM

As some have mentioned already, give DMAC a little time to "grow" into the NBA game. NY was looking just like him earlier in the season on the defensive end. With more playing time is "D" is looking alot better.

They say the speed of an NBA player is unreal. You can not judge it just by looking at it from the bench. Once you get in there and get a taste, you are in trouble (i.e. DMAC and AB last year).

Remember the story Gilbert told about when he was playing with GS and "the glove" was guarding him in a game. Gil could not believe the speed GP possessed. Gil said that was the first and only time he was hoping the coach called him out of a game.

The same is probably happening for DMAC. With minutes and a good "productive run" he will regain his confidence and show you what he can do.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 10, 2007 2:38 PM

I understand the cost associated but one more player would be really nice for this team.

Posted by: Gil | December 10, 2007 2:38 PM

Yeah, they say you never really know a person until you live with them.

Posted by: Nancy | December 10, 2007 2:49 PM

To each's own but I've never read his (Gil's) blog and don't intend to. I don't read any athlete's blog. It may be insightful and entertaining on some level(88), but not for me.

Assuming we're all adults here who love NBA
Basketball, the random comings and goings of 20 something year-old men wouldn't probably be on most of our To Do List's.

However, when someone is constantly on the attack of another person for no apparent reason or benefit, it makes me wonder how unhappy they are with themselves.

Posted by: Janitor | December 10, 2007 2:50 PM

As for last night's game. This is the first game EVER I saw smallball "not hurt us". However, that is because the Nets never drove into the lane to exploit Sagalia. Shame on them, but good for us.

I just hope EJ does not think he can run that unit for extended minutes againg, like he used too. The unit went on a good run in this game and I have no faults with EJ keeping them in the game.

AB has not been looking as good these past three to four games. I wonder if he has an injury or something.

Haywoood is still bringing the "wood" and his free throw shooting is off of the charts. I think he has finally put all of the people who doubt him and bash him to sleep now. All the dude ever needed was some REAL minutes.

I still feel like EJ does not trust him all of the way yet and that he does not give Haywood his due in the 2nd and 4th quarters of games as he should, but hey they are winning and that is all that counts.

Lastly, as much as I have been on EJ's case about his substitution patterns; the dude called a real nice game yesterday. smallball did not hurt us this time so I am cool with that. Way to get DMAC some early minutes last night EJ. Don't give up on him, keep playing him so he can get use to "NBA game speed" and you will get back a major return on your investment......

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 10, 2007 2:54 PM

All Haywood ever needed was to play with the kind of focus, energy, and commitment he's shown (so far) this season all the time. Had he done that in the past, the minutes would have come. But he didn't, so he sat.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 2:57 PM

I agree with you Bullets Forever. I think DMac just needs to adjust to the speed of the game. Once he gets some time playing, watch him become the beast he was in the summer league. Hopefully, he will see more playing time against the TWolves.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 3:05 PM

Janitor, you really couldn't tell DCMoron was unhappy and trying to drag everyone down with him?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 3:09 PM

Which came first the chicken or the egg?

Which came first Haywood's focus, energy and committment or the minutes?

(But let's not start that again.)

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 3:17 PM

I wonder whether the success of smallball last night is related to the fact that the Nets, who also use the Princeton offense, were the opponent.

Posted by: Sean | December 10, 2007 3:44 PM

I hope Eddie's just trying to motivate Roger and doesn't really believe this stuff:

"He's turned into a quiet assassin for us," Jordan said. "He's got this calm demeanor out there. He doesn't get rattled. He's almost like a throwback, a guy who comes off the bench looking to change the game and that's what he can do.

Are you kidding me? A quiet assassin? A guy who's billed as a shooter finally shoots 50% over a couple of games and suddenly he's an assassin?

Someone said Songaila is rendered ineffective on offense when defended by more athletic forwards. I disagree. The guy has a lot of basketball savvy and moves well without the ball. He and AD have picked and rolled a few bigger forwards now.

Posted by: Prazak | December 10, 2007 3:56 PM

Anybody read up on today's Daily Dime J.A. Adande feature about Phil Jackson not falling to Nellie's smallball gimmick tactics, and succeeding? It's too bad EJ keeps falling into Nellie's trap when he does play his teams and then even WORSE he wants to emulate Nellie's tactics but doesn't do a very good job of it at all! He needs to learn this lesson from Phil Jackson since he's not realizing it on his own.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 4:01 PM

I agree, Prazak. Songaila brings aa lot to the table that more than makes up for the fact that he can't jump out of the building. He's a skilled, savvy passer and he knows how to use his body to position himself for rebounds and inside scores against bigger opponents. His ability to hit the outside jumper also helps pull opposing bigs away from the basket.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 4:10 PM

it seems to me that ej was just trying to motivate mason and say something positive about his player. with that said, it's not an outrageous thing to say b/c the quote included the key words "for us"- he didn't say he was tearing up the league or anything like that but just implied that as of late he's stepped into a nice role with the wizards and quietly has been providing needed offensive firepower for the team and making a lot of his threes. this is something the team can use and lately other than butler the guys aren't making those long shots. all that considered, it doesn't seem like that much of an overstatement, especially if mason is able to keep it up over a greater stretch of games. i still disagree with the quote to the extent that it pigeonholes what mason has done over hte last few games, he's actually done more than make shots, he has shown that he is able to make a pretty good defensive contribution, get key steals, and play smart basketball while not making many mistakes. again, not necessarily an amazing achievement, but a timely contribution to the team that is worth noting. i hope he keeps it up.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 4:10 PM

I think all of our big men should be able to hit a 10-15 foot outside jumper. It makes them more effective.

Have noticed that Haywood has hit a few of these lately. It would seem he has been working with our shooting coach on these shots (as well as improving his free throws).

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 4:17 PM

Songaila's not bad. He does a lot of stuff to help this team win. He struggles when EJ plays him at 5, but that's to be expected. I wouldn't blame that on Songaila, though. I'd blame that on EJ. When he comes in and runs the 4, operates on that pick-and-roll, nails open jumpers and makes crisp passes to cutters and to perimeter shooters, he's doing a lot to help this team. I like the guy. He can play 15-20 minutes a night (if that) and have a real impact on a game. See last, for example. He didn't play any in the first half, but when he got his run in the second half, he really helped turn the game around. Aside from Buter, Songaila was the Wizards player of the game.

Posted by: Colin | December 10, 2007 4:22 PM

Per NBA: Wizards: (24) -- Caron Butler is playing the best basketball of his career and most impressive has to be his shooting: .524 from the field and .500 from downtown. Agent Who?

DC is gonna have a blast!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: NBA Watcher | December 10, 2007 4:26 PM

Perhaps it is too early to pose this, but I wonder (since Gil is out for a while) if we should start Mason as SG to go along with AD.

It seems to me we need a shooter paired with AD since we don't have a lot of backcourt scoring with AD and DS in the lineup to start the game.

Then let Young backup Mason and give DS minutes backing up AD at PG.

This would give us more balance in the backcourt.

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 4:27 PM

It could have been better if DMac went to D-league instead so he could have gotten more experience for next year rather than sitting in the bench.....We need an extra veteran to fill up his seat.

Posted by: Dave | December 10, 2007 5:06 PM

I do like the way that AD and Mason play together. However, I don't think that DS needs to be replaced in the starting lineup for a few reasons: one, his game will come around, even if it doesn't pick up to how it was during the middle of last season, two, he's a solid defender, three, there's nothing that says he can't start just b/c he's not scoring as much as the other starters.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 5:07 PM

Quiet Assassin? Now, Thats ridiculous to say until he actually walks out and takes over a game - just knockin down 3's. Otherwise - he's finally doing what he's paid to do.

Eddie Jordan does this annually - Attempts to use is side chair psychology
(Phil Jackson he's not.

EJ sarcastically criticizes Brendan - benches him then praises some guy who finally shows up after a couple of games. Most coaches praise their "team unit" or includes numerous other names as motivation or no. Its a job. you get paid thousands of dollars to actually put up shots.

Wasn't Haywood's blow up last year enough?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 5:08 PM

Tim - I see your point... but I like the combo of DS and AD starting. Especially if the team is trying to "emphasize" defense this year. What better way to stress that defense is important to the team, than by rewarding your best defensive guard with the starting position.

If you notice, Stevenson usually plays only about 20-25 minutes, FAR fewer than the other starters (except Haywood)...So that gives plenty of opportunities for Maxon and Young to come in.

Also, notice that the Wizards are usually very good in the 1st Quarter, when the starters are playing - Averaging 27 points for the year in the 1st quarter, while holding the opponent to 25. (Those numbers are even better since the 0-5 start)... So starters scoring is not an issue.

At some point when Blatch has become more consistent (probably next year), I'd like to see him starting, and Jamison off the bench to provide bench scoring.

Posted by: Rook | December 10, 2007 5:15 PM

Hey Anon, wasn't the article specifically about Mason? Maybe that's why the quoted praises were limited to Mason.

Posted by: 2cents4wiz | December 10, 2007 5:15 PM

I apologize if this was brought up under a different article, but I wanted to discussed Gil's $12 million bit in his blog.

He talks down on Luol Deng, Okafor, and Igoudala for turning down $12 million a year. I know that its a fools errand to try to interpret or even believe anything gil says on his blog, but perhaps Gils is making a statement to the tune of - "I regret opting out after this year, I know that I am injured, but if the wiz offer me $12 mil a year I will graciously accept it right now."

Thoughts?

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | December 10, 2007 5:43 PM

yeah right, i'm quite sure gil considers himself a better player and a greater asset to his team than the guys you mentioned....whether or not that's true.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 5:53 PM

Good posts from newposter and Rook.

I still like they idea of starting Mason and having Young as a backup if they both continue to develop. This would be a way of giving them more minutes (if and when they deserve it).

I am presuming Mason is an adequate defender already. Always having a shooter in the backcourt keeps the defense on the Wiz more honest.

I would still use DS as a spot starter on certain guards and for situational substitions at the end of games along with backing up AD at PG.

Rook, I also like the idea of having Blatche in the starting lineup and AJ off the bench sometime in the future (when Blatche is more consistent and in better shape).

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 5:54 PM

you think a GM would let the guy he just committed years and decent (although i don't think he's overpaid by any means) money to become a spot starter guy? i know DS is underpaid as some starters go, so it's not like they would have this guy making tons of money sitting on the bench, but he certainly makes a lot more than mason does...and that might answer the question for EG even if otherwise at some point down the line in the season mason and stevenson's play were to make it a split decision.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 6:08 PM

tim- ignore that last point of mine. i just saw that you want jamison to come off the bench, too, so you're not thinking about politics/money as far as how to dole out starting/bench roles.

Posted by: newposter | December 10, 2007 6:09 PM

ATLwizFAN , I think you may be reading too much into what Gilbert says, trying to project your own feelings about his situation onto him

First of all, it wasn't $12 mill a year those guys turned down, because no one would be crazy enough to offer them that kind of $$$$.

If you really read what he's saying, his intent is pretty clear, and his arguments are pretty solid. Those guys all turned down guaranteed money based on the belief that they can get more. But that's a belief that might come back to bite them, because with the possible exception of Deng, none of them are worth more. That doesn't apply to Gilbert because he's not in that situation.

Contrary to what people think they know he hasn't opted out of his contract yet. In fact, according to league rules, he can't opt out until the season's over. Secondly, assuming he comes back healthy and plays the way he's capable of, the odds of him being offered more than what he's making right now (even if it's not the full max and even if it's only by the Wiz) are pretty damn good.

Those guys already made the decision to leave money on the table that they may not get back. That's not the same as Gilbert talking about a decision he plans on making several months from now.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 6:20 PM

When is Pecherov going to come back to the team?

Posted by: Walk The Line | December 10, 2007 6:25 PM

yo kalorama, i respect what you say on this blog; i respect what pretty much everyone says actually besides dcman88 because i like to have good healthy debate amongst wiz fans. i understand what songaila brings to the table w/ shooting and offense and i dont mind that he cant jump. my issue with him is the lack of defense. as someone else pointed out, the reason small ball worked last night was because new jersey did not drive the lane against songaila so we were OK with it. when teams go at him, they score, and i feel like a smart team will almost always take advantage of that.

Posted by: andy | December 10, 2007 6:28 PM

the reason small ball worked last night was because new jersey did not drive the lane against songaila so we were OK with it.
Posted by: andy | December 10, 2007 06:28 PM

Andy - Can't be too certain, especially with EJ's substitution patterns, but since it was working I can see why Eddie left Songaila in there. If it started causing defensive problems, it's possible Eddie would have gone back to Blatche or Haywood. Not a "for sure" thing, but at least this year, Eddie has shown signs that he is making substitutions based on his team's strengths and the game situations.

I watched the game again this afternoon, and I still cannot understand why the Nets didn't attack the middle. Mason and Daniels didn't seem to be playing such good defense to stop him, but Jason Kidd seemed to avoid penetration for some reason.

Posted by: Rook | December 10, 2007 6:39 PM

Andy,

I disagree that he's a bad defender. He's certainly not a great one, but he's solid and capable against certain kind of players. Someone brought up earlier the idea that he was at a disadvantage offensively against more athletic forwards. That's not really true. It is true, however, that he has a problem defending quicker forwards. He doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with most of them but neither does Jamison. What he does have defensively (which Jamison also lacks) is strength. He's an effective defender against t forwards who get by more on muscle rather than quickness.

Again, he's not going to make onto any all defensive teams, but he is certainly capable of playing solid defense in favorable matchups.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 6:39 PM

The good thing about this years roster is that the second and third thirds of the bench have young guys who have potential to improve with playing time as opposed to years past when minute eaters such as Ruffin, Booth, Hayes were all never going to improve and add to the future of the team.

I like all these extra minutes going to Young, Blatche, DMac and Big Pecker when he gets back. The only player that could be put into that old group is Mason and I like him alot as the 5th guard, so I don't see it as quite as much of a waste.

Posted by: Henchlow | December 10, 2007 6:42 PM

BTW, I still think DS should be the starter (assuming he can hit an open shot again like he did last year) when Gil gets back.

I am trying to find backcourt pairings that give you scoring and some defense.

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 6:54 PM

My earlier suggestions were only for the current situation (Gil out and AD at starting PG).

Also, with AD logging usually heavy minutes, I think we need to find away with the current personnel to give him a break and DS could possibly provide this at backup PG.

That said, I think EJ's next project is to get DMac more minutes so he can develop and be a contributor off the bench. We need all the useful bodies we can get this year and DMac seems to have some skills that could help us down the road.

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 7:15 PM

Also, with AD logging usually heavy minutes,

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 07:15 PM

See, here's where I disagree that Daniels is logging "heavy minutes"... Last 10 games, he's averaging 36 minutes per.

Come on guys, he came into this year in the best shape of his life. He's 32, not 42!

Posted by: Rook | December 10, 2007 7:22 PM

Eddie Jordan does this annually - Attempts to use is side chair psychology
(Phil Jackson he's not.

EJ sarcastically criticizes Brendan - benches him then praises some guy who finally shows up after a couple of games.

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 05:08 PM


Annon. Glad to see someone else notices that too. Haywood was putting forth the same effort he is doing now last year, however EJ chose to use Etan and Ruffin at the 5 spot more for reasons of his own. Again, that is why Ernie did not resign Ruffin and why he tried really hard to trade Etan.

Ernie knew the only way he was going to get EJ to put BTH on the floor was to take away his ability to insert Etan and Ruffin. You can clearly see Ernie and Eddie have two totally different opinions on Haywood's game.

Haywood is not doing anything different from last year except shooting the ball a heck of a lot better. This new shooting coach gets my MVP award. Haywood is taking jumpers with nice form and has improved his FT shooting.

You can clearly see the dude is really trying to do everything in his power to not give EJ a reason to take him off of the floor, by expanding his game. However, BTH should get ready for his minutes to go down when OPEC comes back, because EJ will probably never show the "twin tower look" again now that smallball has worked one whole quarter of the game, wow.....!!!!!!


Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 10, 2007 7:30 PM

I'll say this, though, about AD, if he should happen to go down for a stretch of games, I think the Wiz are going to be in real trouble.

Posted by: Tim | December 10, 2007 7:40 PM

"I apologize if this was brought up under a different article, but I wanted to discussed Gil's $12 million bit in his blog.

He talks down on Luol Deng, Okafor, and Igoudala for turning down $12 million a year. I know that its a fools errand to try to interpret or even believe anything gil says on his blog, but perhaps Gils is making a statement to the tune of - "I regret opting out after this year, I know that I am injured, but if the wiz offer me $12 mil a year I will graciously accept it right now."

Thoughts?

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | December 10, 2007 05:43 PM "

That's funny.

I said a LONG TIME AGO, BEFORE GILBY OPTED OUT, that he's assuming way more risk by doing so, which goes counter to his argument that he's opting out to provide more financial security for his family after his knee injury woke him up to the fact that he's vulnerable.

Again, I was right, but now, it's too late for Gilby. He can't turn back time, but he's got multi millions in the bank, so he's not hurting for money, but again, greed does the greedy in every time. Go talk to all those that took equity out of their home to get another ARM for another house. Now, they will be foreclosing. Can't feel sorry for them.

YOU ROLL THE DICE, YOU PAY THE PRICE!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 8:31 PM

"Per NBA: Wizards: (24) -- Caron Butler is playing the best basketball of his career and most impressive has to be his shooting: .524 from the field and .500 from downtown. Agent Who?

DC is gonna have a blast!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: NBA Watcher | December 10, 2007 04:26 PM "

I said this before Caron's ascension this season. He's the MVP and heart and soul of this team. Nobody believed me. It's all coming to fruition this year, and guess what, you don't see or hear CBut hamming it up on the camera, on stupid commercials, crying about billboards, shoe deals, etc.

Cheers to Caron.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 8:33 PM

"To each's own but I've never read his (Gil's) blog and don't intend to. I don't read any athlete's blog. It may be insightful and entertaining on some level(88), but not for me.

Assuming we're all adults here who love NBA
Basketball, the random comings and goings of 20 something year-old men wouldn't probably be on most of our To Do List's.

However, when someone is constantly on the attack of another person for no apparent reason or benefit, it makes me wonder how unhappy they are with themselves.

Posted by: Janitor | December 10, 2007 02:50 PM "

I've never read Gilby's blog either, but read the Post today which mentioned his blog. If people are upset with the news I forward (check yo self, I don't create the Gilby news or create dramat to attack him), then their problem is that they've elevated this zero character way above what he should be. He's just an overpaid professional athlete, nothing more.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 8:37 PM

"DCMan88 is hilarious, but somethings he said are true. Gilbert should have kept her and the kids in the house that the rookies Chuch and Larry are calling home now.

Laura got on his last nerve. That's bad when I guy tells you, you need to leave, I need my space! That's basically telling the girl that you don't want her around anymore. Plus, he tells the whole world that you kept his house dirty.

For those two at Reliable Source, let this relationship die in piece.

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 02:37 PM "

When you are a public figure, and you take it one step further and put yourself out there on blogs, commercials, self promotion, club promotions, appearances, etc., then you are asking for it.

Gilby probably got jealous that DMac and NY, young buck bachelors w/o kids, were bringing hoes and groupies home every night and livin' it up, while he was stuck changing diapers with hibachi explosions form god knows what the babies ate (don't feed babies strained peas). He just got fed up, and then she got fed up.

In the end, hoes lounging around the grotto just don't mix with baby puke in the pool.

"why is there a miniature snickers bar floating in the hot tub?" - groupie ho asks Gilby

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 8:46 PM

I, too, think Caron deserves all the kudos he gets. He is an extermely hard worker and tries to get the most out of his abilities.

He reminds me of Gilbert in that regard.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 9:22 PM

DC is simply jealous. He has a crazy infatuation with Gilbert Areanas. He is a Fanatic! It is too funny! Keep it coming little one, maybe Gil might notice and ask you to move in now that he is all alone :)

Posted by: Skeef | December 10, 2007 9:35 PM

Ernie knew the only way he was going to get EJ to put BTH on the floor was to take away his ability to insert Etan and Ruffin. You can clearly see Ernie and Eddie have two totally different opinions on Haywood's game.

---
More of this nonsense! EJ's opinion of his game prior to this season was the same as all his coaches, commentators, and general basketball fans--no heart, centers skills but consistently inconsistent! How in Gods name did EJ get this bad rap benching a player who simply did not play well for more than two consective games? I just do not get it. Kudos to Brendan for improving his game, but if he was so good prior to this season, how in hell could EG sign a 7'0 center for so little (relatively speaking of course). If he was a free agent at the end of last season, he would be forced to sign for less. We all know BH has some good center skills and is legitamately 7 feet, but he never showed it for long even within games and we saw that he had little heart..

Oh well, I guess we see what we want.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 9:44 PM

It comes down to which really came first the minutes or the game?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 10, 2007 9:48 PM

"DC is simply jealous. He has a crazy infatuation with Gilbert Areanas. He is a Fanatic! It is too funny! Keep it coming little one, maybe Gil might notice and ask you to move in now that he is all alone :)

Posted by: Skeef | December 10, 2007 09:35 PM "

Yeah, I'm jealous of a dude who never knew his mother and now doesn't have his kids with him b/c he kicked his babies's momma to the curb. Any worse than this, I'd be jealous of Skeef's life instead.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 10:09 PM

88 needs to go back on the meds!

Posted by: Ned_e_Boy | December 10, 2007 10:09 PM

"I, too, think Caron deserves all the kudos he gets. He is an extermely hard worker and tries to get the most out of his abilities.

He reminds me of Gilbert in that regard.

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 09:22 PM "

Caron is a slacker. If he was a real workaholic, he'd be biking around town and running around DC with a parachute too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 10:10 PM

Yeah, I thought the parachute thing was kind of gay too, but dude (and I use the term extremely loosely for DCManBoyLover), you are such a tool!

Posted by: Ned_e_Boy | December 10, 2007 10:16 PM

"Yeah, I thought the parachute thing was kind of gay too, but dude (and I use the term extremely loosely for DCManBoyLover), you are such a tool!

Posted by: Ned_e_Boy | December 10, 2007 10:16 PM "

You are such an orifice!!!! Ned_e_girlie!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 10, 2007 10:34 PM

Haywood was putting forth the same effort he is doing now last year...

"Haywood is not doing anything different from last year..."

Simply not true. And Haywood himself has basically said as much.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 11:41 PM

Also, with AD logging usually heavy minutes...

Daniels is averaging just below 30 mpg for the season. He's currently not even among the top 100 players in mpg.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 11:44 PM

"Daniels is averaging just below 30 mpg for the season. He's currently not even among the top 100 players in mpg.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 11:44 PM "

AD is an old fart not used to the rigors and demands of being a steady starter though. It's like asking a Honda Accord to run with Ferraris.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 12:11 AM

Bullet fever,

You are right. I noticed that smallball worked and hope EJ doesn't see it as vindicating that stategy. Nets ineptitude was the reason for the 4th quarter run, not smallball. When they tried to drive the lane they did it easily. Songalia was hot and played hard so that offset his defensive deficiency. I agree with the thought that DMac has not looked food. But I think he needs playing time like Young got. Yes he is raw but his unique skills compared to the rest of the team warrent a long look. Songalia played the entire 4th quarter till he turned the ankle. at about 4-5 minutes left the game was pretty much sealed but Butler, Jamison, Songalia were all in. I expected to see the bench cleared. It never happened. I am one of those that realizes that the starters need to be in there in crunch time. Some times they will rightly need to be used for 40 minutes. But not in games like Sunday. There was easily an opprtunity to give the bench players more time. Coaches are paranoid and think they are gonna lose the big lead. But good coaches get over that fear and let their bench players get time in blowouts.

Glad we won. EJ has done a very good job this year in keeping us at .500. But these problems are gonna bite us eventually.

Posted by: BmoreRev | December 11, 2007 12:29 AM

"Songalia played the entire 4th quarter till he turned the ankle. at about 4-5 minutes left the game was pretty much sealed but Butler, Jamison, Songalia were all in. I expected to see the bench cleared."

The coach of the team that's up can't clear the bench until the coach of the team that's down does the same, thus waving the white flag. Kidd, Jefferson, and Carter stayed in the game until the final buzzer sounded. Did you seriously want Jordan to empty the bench with 5 minutes to go and leave his backups at the mercy of Kidd and Co.? How long do you think it would have taken those three to erase a 15-point lead with without Jamison or Butler on the floor?

Of course, we've heard this tune before: Even in a 15-point win, every decision Jordan makes is wrong.

Posted by: kalorama | December 11, 2007 1:22 AM

DC Idiot88 posts hate about Gil because:

a) He lost a big bet when Gil missed free throws in a playoff game. Cost him $7,000, his car, and his girlfriend.

b) Gil rejected his romantic advances.

c) All of the above.

Guess which answer is correct? Hint: DC Idiot88 posted angry comments filled with exclamation marks the day Gil missed the free throws, and said he'd lost $7,000, etc. in a bet. DC Idiot88 also has said here that Gil used to communicate with him but then cut him off.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 1:51 AM

I pick c. DC Man88 is confused about his orientation. And he lost the bet.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 1:53 AM

DC Moron88: Please see a shrink as as soon as possible. For everyone's sake.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 1:57 AM

DC Man88 is one of those confused guys who goes around bashing gays and men in general, in part because this helps him deny his gayness.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:01 AM

Yeah, a psychologist could help you, DC Man88, to realize and come to terms with your gay orientation.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:02 AM

DC Man88 is gay.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:03 AM

And he won't admit it!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:06 AM

what do you guys think it would take to get J-Kidd here for a few years? without giving up Gilbert.

Posted by: dmal | December 11, 2007 2:10 AM

I am gay and so what?

Posted by: DC Man 88 | December 11, 2007 2:11 AM

Does that make me less of a person? I love my man. What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 2:12 AM

Well now I have seen it all on this Blog. Where else can you get to read interesting stuff about the Wizards AND watch your fellow bloggers choose this forum to come out of the closet?

Better than TV!

Now what about the T-Wolves? This is a real opportunity for the 2007-08 model of Brendan Haywood to show us he is for real, putting a lockdown on Al Jefferson and posting something like 14 pts, 15 rebs and 4 blocks.

This is also a legitimate opportunity to test the theory of starting big (Caron at the 2) and then bringing DS in when the Wolves go to their bench for Rashard McCants... maybe not at the beginning of the game (no point in EJ sending a disrespect signal to DS, who played well against NJ) but certainly at the beginning of the second half.

As for Gilbert's blog posting on young players turning down sizable contracts to bet on the come (and yes I do read his blog), I think he made a lot of sense... I am not sure whether Gilbert Arenas is (in the best Shakespearean sense) a "Wise Fool" or whatever, but he is the most wonderfully (and carefully) self-revealing athlete this side of Mohammed Ali and Charles Barkley.

Posted by: khrabb | December 11, 2007 5:01 AM

LOL. Back after a day off of this blog. This stuff is too funny. We all know the situation with a certain poster. There's no reasoning with it.
Songaila had a good game, but every player in this league has a handful of good games per year. You know the saying..even a broken clock is right twice a day. He's a solid guy who can deliver when the matchup is right. Unfortunately, the matchup isn't right most nights. I can distinctly remember Tom McMillen and Larry Stewart having good nights for us, too. His rebounding and defense is below average. Great complementary player but if we are gonna rely on him, we're in trouble. That said, he was a key reason we won the other night. Great game ! It says a lot when a guy has 11 points and 6 rebounds and we are all raving about how well he played, though (albeit in only 15 minutes) . Says to me that he's a 9th or 10th man.

Posted by: mark | December 11, 2007 7:40 AM

What's really hilarious is that DC88 expects us to believe he does not read Gil's blog. We all know that he does?

And that item he posted yesterday? Straight from the Washington Post STYLE section....not the sports section.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 8:03 AM

Don't feel sorry for me. I'm just a regular poster on this blog.

Feel sorry for:

1) Gilby's kids.
2) Gilby's babies's momma.
3) Gilby's momma.

Those are the people you guys should feel sorry for.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 8:20 AM

From: Gilby
To: Laura
Subject: Keep the F'n house clean and stop bringing me down!


"You know what? When stuff goes bad it goes bad. I just broke up with my girlfriend and I don't get to see my kids for a while because of the breakup.

That happened right before those two games last week. I was so happy, went out and performed well with 30 and 11 and came back the next night with 28 and I was thinking, "Oh yeah, it was her that was bringing my spirits down..."

Now she's back in California. You ask for space, you know, because everything feels closed in ... the house is dirty, the kids are drawing on the walls and on the couches and you're thinking, "Oh man, I can't do this. I'm not playing well and I'm coming home to all this."

So you ask for space and now you got clean walls, clean furniture and you're lonely.

And now you got to sit out three months. Oh man. I guess it has to get bad so it can get good."


http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2007/11/29/gilbert-arenas-is-lonely-for-now/2

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 8:39 AM

Everybody start hating on Laura now:

""Oh yeah, it was her that was bringing my spirits down...""

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 8:48 AM

Intead of focusing on DCMan88 and Arenas, people should be upset about the Wiz not even having enough players to practice. Abe should either bleep or get off the pot. He's being penny wise and pound foolish. The purpose of a team is to WIN not being obsessed about luxury taxes.

Posted by: Browneri | December 11, 2007 8:59 AM

Well, now you see why I like to get on here and post and talk a little basketball in the morning and move on for the day.

One vaguely related point to some of the previously posted stuff. I did watch Young and MaGuire's vlog(not sure if that's what you call it). It's really very funny, but boy it makes you remember these guys really are young and in many ways big kids.

These guys aren't any older then the part time college kids I have working for me. And I think about some of the antics of my young help and I just chuckle.

My point is, it's alot to expect these kids on the bench to bring a consistant effort every night. So some ups and downs are to be expected, Young, TMac, Blatche, and Pecherov will all take some time before Eddie can start to rely on them night in night out.

Songaila worked against NJ because their ruff and tumble play didn't phase him. Jersey has had the Wizards number for awhile, turn a game into a brawl and the Wiz tend to wilt.

Songaila and Butler were really scraping with those guys, if anything the Wiz made them wilt in the 4th when they wanted to go toe to toe for a change. That's important, in the NBA if you aren't tough enough teams will test you over and over.

Once teams get it that they can't win that way, they'll back off. But boy have I seen the Wizards wilt under that kind of physical brawling style many times.

In my mind that was a big win, to pull away from a team that tried to dail up the physical play in the 4th.

The Wiz don't have the talent to run with the top 4 teams in the league right now. But they can win alot of games by just being tough enough when they have to be.

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 9:31 AM

Looks like it's gonna be a long, weird day on here. See you guys, I'll duck in when somebody manages to start talking about NBA basketball again.

Don't read the style section and I'm not coming on here just to start. Some of this stuff isn't worth scrolling through.

As long as Rod Strickland didn't barf it up in front of me on the court, I really didn't care what he ate or drank. So what grown up men do on their free time is pretty much not my concern.

Somebody really should tell Gil to find something to do besides posting his life on the internet. It attracts some real weirds.

Almost makes me glad I had to give up my season tickets because of my bad back, sooner or later somebody's going to crack and we'll all read about it in the paper.

It'll either be Verizon center or Gil's house, he seems to have that scoped out pretty well. But in the past he did post about where Micheal and Ivan Live...

Think about it, if some nut shoots up any of those places, who would everyone on this blog assume it would be?

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 9:56 AM

A very valid point, GM.

Posted by: Lou | December 11, 2007 10:11 AM

You know what DC Man's problem is? He has no job. It looks like he has all the time in the world to post here so I think he has no job and lives in his moma's house. Propabaly retarted too. Hmm Pitty. Wouldn't this world would be better if we didn't have guys like him? may be he and paris hilton can start a club. How about I am a dumbass free loader club?

Posted by: Gil | December 11, 2007 10:14 AM

LOL. and the hits keep coming....
You guys are all fired up today.

Posted by: mark | December 11, 2007 10:20 AM

"Intead of focusing on DCMan88 and Arenas, people should be upset about the Wiz not even having enough players to practice. Abe should either bleep or get off the pot. He's being penny wise and pound foolish. The purpose of a team is to WIN not being obsessed about luxury taxes.

Posted by: Browneri | December 11, 2007 08:59 AM "

I've been hammering on that issue since ET and Opech went down.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 10:22 AM

Laura would have been the top free loader, until Gilby wised up and kicked both her and her two kids out the door. Gilby, a role model and bright spot in DC.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 10:25 AM

"Looks like it's gonna be a long, weird day on here. See you guys, I'll duck in when somebody manages to start talking about NBA basketball again.

Don't read the style section and I'm not coming on here just to start. Some of this stuff isn't worth scrolling through.

As long as Rod Strickland didn't barf it up in front of me on the court, I really didn't care what he ate or drank. So what grown up men do on their free time is pretty much not my concern.

Somebody really should tell Gil to find something to do besides posting his life on the internet. It attracts some real weirds.

Almost makes me glad I had to give up my season tickets because of my bad back, sooner or later somebody's going to crack and we'll all read about it in the paper.

It'll either be Verizon center or Gil's house, he seems to have that scoped out pretty well. But in the past he did post about where Micheal and Ivan Live...

Think about it, if some nut shoots up any of those places, who would everyone on this blog assume it would be?

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 09:56 AM "

For a person who doesn't like to comment about "non-basketball" related stuff, you sure seem to like to comment that you don't. Seven paragraphs worth of meaningless "I don't like to do this or that" musings. Worthless information about GM.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 10:32 AM

Kudos to Brendan for improving his game, but if he was so good prior to this season, how in hell could EG sign a 7'0 center for so little (relatively speaking of course). If he was a free agent at the end of last season, he would be forced to sign for less. We all know BH has some good center skills and is legitamately 7 feet, but he never showed it for long even within games and we saw that he had little heart..

Oh well, I guess we see what we want.

Posted by: | December 10, 2007 09:44 PM

Annon. Apples and Oranges. EJ signing him for less money had nothing to do with how he was playing "last year". Your timeline is off by a couple of years, which makes your "EJ signing him for less money" point moot.

Since when was Haywood a free agent at the end of last year?? He is a six year veteran with a number 1 pick contract (2001). 3 years and team option on the 4th.

Haywood signed his contract extention either after his 3rd or 4th year. At that time he was not seeing that many minutes so he did not have a lot of leverage then to garner a big contract anyway.

That is why he signed the low contract he has now. He got 5 years added on guaranteed at a time he was not playing that much. I think it was a 5 year 25 million dollar contract. I call that a smart business move, wouldn't you????

Therefore, EJ signing him on the "cheap" and other teams not really wanting him is not true. The other teams could not offer him a contract, last year, because he was already on his contract extension. So how does that make him a FA last year?

There were numerous reports out this past summer stating many teams were very interested in Haywood but EG was not trying to trade him because of that good contract number he has and the potential he had IF EJ EVER DECIDED TO PUT HIM ON THE COURT.

On the other hand EG was trying his darnest to trade Etan, but nobody bit on Etan because his contract was too big for what he does.

Lastly, you stated Haywood never showed "it" for long in games. Please tell me how you can show what you can do when you get yanked out of 1st quarter's of games last year and never allowed to be put back in the game????

Mind you, this is after playing well most of the time???? Where would your mindset and "heart" be after going through this type of treatment for a whole year??????

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 11, 2007 10:33 AM

How long do you think it would have taken those three to erase a 15-point lead with without Jamison or Butler on the floor?

Of course, we've heard this tune before: Even in a 15-point win, every decision Jordan makes is wrong.

Posted by: kalorama | December 11, 2007 01:22 AM

Kal - Not true on your last statement for me. I wrote yesterday I thought EJ called a perfect game, even with smallball being the main "star" of the game.

As you already know,I can not stand smallball and when I have two seven footers with long arms sitting on the bench wasting away, it burns me up to no end.

However, as I noted yesterday, if the Nets were stupid enough to not drive the lane on AJ at the 4 and Songalia at the 5, that is on them. The flow was working well yesterday with that unit and since we were not being hurt on the defensive side of the ball with that unit I had no problem with EJ keeping them in the game.

EJ has a bad streak going on against Frank and Byron Scott and I think he believes he is snakebitten against them. So he wanted to make sure he won the game while they still had their starters out. No problem from me with his calls Sunday at all.

I only have problems with Eddie when he plays smallball and the other teams starts going straight to the rack and scoring at will and rebounding at will. Eddie will sit there and let it keep happening until we lose the lead or the game for that matter.

I am one who likes the games that Eddie calls and his great offensive sets. However, I don't always agree with how he calls the "5" spot during games, that's all.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 11, 2007 10:48 AM

My disagreements with him are about the subs and smallball, too. I was called an EJ hater the other day but that's not true. No way I think he should be fired. I just worry about starter burnout in Feb. I like the fact the he's subbing more this year even if it's because injuries forced his hand.

Posted by: mark | December 11, 2007 12:33 PM

Against a team like the Nets that can explode for 10-12 points in a minute or so it's tough to pull your starters until they do.

In the 4th they were trying to crash the offensive boards so much sometimes they seemed to clog the lane with bodies and didn't get very good spacing offensively. To drive to the hoop a team's got to space the floor.

In the past they've gotten away with that tactic late in games against the Wiz, but it didn't work the other night.

I think Rook made a great point amoung all the garbage on here yesterday. There's two ways to try for a title, build for it or try and buy one short term.

Building isn't easy and it takes time, but done properly a team can be right there for a long time, like the Spurs, the Old Celtics, or even the Bullets in the late sixties to the end of the 70's.

Buying a title generally means trading for a veteran star or stars and being successful for a relatively short amount of time. Like Rook said the Heat's move to get Shaq or Boston's offseason are examples of that tactic.

You can build a core then make a move for a missing peice to put a playoff team into elite status. Orlando may have pulled that off with the Lewis deal which I thought didn't look that good last summer, but it sure seems to be working so far.

Grunfeld seems to be building something here, it still may take awhile, but in the meantime it still beats looking at who's going to be in the lottery every year.

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 12:37 PM

Garbage:

"Looks like it's gonna be a long, weird day on here. See you guys, I'll duck in when somebody manages to start talking about NBA basketball again.

Don't read the style section and I'm not coming on here just to start. Some of this stuff isn't worth scrolling through.

As long as Rod Strickland didn't barf it up in front of me on the court, I really didn't care what he ate or drank. So what grown up men do on their free time is pretty much not my concern.

Somebody really should tell Gil to find something to do besides posting his life on the internet. It attracts some real weirds.

Almost makes me glad I had to give up my season tickets because of my bad back, sooner or later somebody's going to crack and we'll all read about it in the paper.

It'll either be Verizon center or Gil's house, he seems to have that scoped out pretty well. But in the past he did post about where Micheal and Ivan Live...

Think about it, if some nut shoots up any of those places, who would everyone on this blog assume it would be?

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 09:56 AM"

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 12:41 PM

BF#1 says: "Haywood signed his contract extention either after his 3rd or 4th year. At that time he was not seeing that many minutes so he did not have a lot of leverage then to garner a big contract anyway"

Other than last year and his rookie year, BTH has been the starter for most all remaining seasons. Still he was only averaging about 23 mpg, but that's probably because he didn't bring it every night like he is currently doing.

He opted to sign an extention, while Kwame, on the other hand, opted for restricted free agency, thinking he could do better than the extention ( and he did ). Etan did the same thing ( maybe he wasn't offered an extention, I don't remember), and he really got paid.

I love what BTH is doing now, and I hope he keeps it up. But it doesn't erase the fact the he used to fade in games, not just last year, but since he has been here. Doug Collins noted the same thing.

Posted by: 2cnets4wiz | December 11, 2007 12:59 PM

Just popped in today. Wow, some funny (fruity) revelation in here!

Songalia: WE NEED HIM. Yes, he's limited but aren't we all. He brings more than he lacks. Our team is a good balance of youth, athleticism, size, experience, and toughness. He's an integral part of the puzzle (tough/size).

Let's not diminish his value (Pick, Pop, Pass, Bang, IQ) by focusing on what he can't do (Athleticism, Block Shots). EJ stuck with small ball b/c it worked the last game. He didn't out think himself. There is something to be said for that. NJ never adjusted and tough on them.

All of our players have limitations as does the rest of the NBA. He should remain an integral part of our rotation primarily w/Blatche but as the situation dictates.

McGuire's time will come. On any good team, he's getting the amount of time he has gotten or LESS.

Posted by: Janitor | December 11, 2007 1:22 PM

Larry Hughes, Kwame Brown, Jared Jeffries.

Thank you EG! You are the Gate Keeper !

Posted by: Janitor | December 11, 2007 1:33 PM

Haywood was putting forth the same effort he is doing now last year...

"Haywood is not doing anything different from last year..."

Simply not true. And Haywood himself has basically said as much.

Posted by: kalorama | December 10, 2007 11:41 PM

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I guess I will never get this infatuation with seeing Haywood differently than he was/is and blaming EJ for what most everyone saw. He did get minutes and more importantly opportunities prior to and during EJ's tenure. Ask MJ and his pet coach what they thought of him. Again, why would a coach bench a 7'0 footer who is playing defense, rebounding and finishing around the basket. Oh, right, he would not, because it did not happen, because said player did not perform in the double digit minutes given. Thus, he left everyone scratching their heads and calling him Brenda--where did that nick name come from.

Let's all agree to disagree on this one!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:31 PM

DCMANN88 is a douche bag with no life!!! If he had one he wouldn't have a cute little response to everyone's comments. My guess is he is about 300lbs and never leaves the house.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:46 PM

DCMANN88 must have daddy issues. Go see someone we don't want to hear about ur problems.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:49 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree on BTH, ANON. A lot of players don't get it their first couple or few seasons. I just think that the light turned on for BTH a couple years ago and we didn't take advantage of it...and still aren't fully. Whatever the case, as long as we win, I'm good. If he plays 10 minutes a game and we win, I'm ecstatic.

Posted by: mark | December 11, 2007 2:50 PM

The fact that Etan isn't around and Brenda is still getting benched proves he is a bum. He plays well in stretches then disappears for a week or 2. He has played better this year but he is what he is and that is a average center at best.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:56 PM

and to tell you the truth Brenda is probably below average!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 2:59 PM

"DCMANN88 is a douche bag with no life!!! If he had one he wouldn't have a cute little response to everyone's comments. My guess is he is about 300lbs and never leaves the house.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 02:46 PM "

I guess you have no life either.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 3:00 PM

"The fact that Etan isn't around and Brenda is still getting benched proves he is a bum. He plays well in stretches then disappears for a week or 2. He has played better this year but he is what he is and that is a average center at best.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 02:56 PM "

This is a joke by an anonymous idiot. If BTH wasn't up to his game, Les BouleS wouldn't have won many of the games they've won this season.

To counter this ridiculous point, one could easily say Les BouleS don't need Gilby anymore because they're doing so well without him, and the players are playing so well and elevated their games without him now that the diva is out with a boo boo on his knee. Gilby was holding back each person's individual development.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 3:03 PM

You can build a core then make a move for a missing peice to put a playoff team into elite status. Orlando may have pulled that off with the Lewis deal which I thought didn't look that good last summer, but it sure seems to be working so far.

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 12:37 PM

The Bullets did exactly that when they brought in Bobby D. He was the missing element that put them over the top.

Posted by: reispace | December 11, 2007 3:05 PM

the team is better without gilby. They actually play like a team instead of shooting ridiculous jumpers all game. If Grunfeld had a clue he would sign a real PG you know one who actually passes and use that money for a post threat.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:06 PM

Dude! What is this infatuation with Gilbert. You don't disappoint. I don't care what the topic is (Brenda Haywood) somehow, someway you find a way to pull Gilbert into YOUR conversation. You are one sick, scary, and pathetic individual to have that much hate for someone who doesn't give a flying fig about you. I pity you because you are really pathetic.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:07 PM

They need another scorer without gilby but they are better without him.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:08 PM

Re: The Roster

You can bet that after the trade deadline, (when teams can sign players to ten-day contracts) we will pick-up someone from the D-League on a couple of ten-day contracts, or sign them for the rest of the year. Brian Chase most likely. I don't see Gil recovering this year.

At some point, we will be able to get a pick-up without exceeding Abe's precious spending cap.

Posted by: Wizzy | December 11, 2007 3:09 PM

And for the other anon poster, the team was playing exactily as they are playing right now with Gil before he was injured. How else would you explain him,caron and Jamison all in double figures the last game he played. Yea, I am a true Wizard fan and yea I like Gilbert, so what! That is what a true fan does. Back their team and that includes all players. Especially it's star and whether you like it or not, Gil, is the face of this franchise.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:10 PM

If the people on this website think Gilbert Arenas will ever lead any team to the finals you know nothing about basketball!!! If Grunfeld is smart he will let him walk or somehow sign and trade him. The problem with that is everyone around the league knows he isn't worth the money. If we give him max money coming off 2 serious knee surgeries the wizards franchise is done. It will set us back just like the Jhoward contract. His points are nice but I will take a pass first consistent PG and a post presence anyday over Gilby. Gilby is the most overrated player in the league!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:13 PM

Caron Butler is more valuable to this team than Gilbert. Caron actually shows up every night and plays hard at both ends. Gil gives you 40 one night and 18 the next on about 20 shots. Also he plays no defense!!!!!!!! Every PG we play has a career night against Gilby. Other teams love playing the wiz.....career nights for all.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:16 PM

I thought caron was better than Gil last year and he only proves it more and more with Gil out. Gil can score that is it! No passing, No D and he really doesn't even have that great of a shot he just shoots so many he eventually gets the points. His shooting percentage is weak he turns the ball over to much. There is no way in hell he is a max player. If the wiz sign him to a max deal i will be finding a new team next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:20 PM

The fact that Etan isn't around and Brenda is still getting benched proves he is a bum. He plays well in stretches then disappears for a week or 2. He has played better this year but he is what he is and that is a average center at best.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 02:56 PM

Annon. Not sure if you are the same one I posted to earlier or not, but man which games do you be looking at???

Haywood is not being benched. He is the starter and AB comes in to "relief" him. Does Haywood get any run in the 2nd quarter of games, heck no. Now is that because of his game, or EJ just choosing to go in another direction? We do not know, that is why we ask?

No disrespect to Etan, but AB is a way better backup center than Etan. AB should be playing at the 4 until he picks up some more size, however he is able to hold down the 5 pretty well.

Thus, if Haywood's minutes are being taken away because AB is ballin substituting for BTH, I do not have a problem with it. As long as it is not Ruffin, Thomas, or Songalia playing the 5 I am cool with the substitution pattern called by EJ.

By the way, where have you seen him disappear for a week or 2 this year? Are you really watching the games or just repeating what someone else is saying who does not know anything about the game??? Is that the same person who told you Haywood was a FA last year...?????

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | December 11, 2007 3:20 PM

I don't view BTH's current minutes lagging as a benching. Currently, I see it as part of the rotation to get Blatche playing time. BTH usually doesn't play the 2nd period, when Blatche is playing well. Against NJ, BTH was put back into the game around the 7 minute mark of the 2nd period, because Blatche didn't have it.

In this league, especially the East, an average center is better than most. A 7 foot average center is icing on the cake. This year, BTH has been, not only better than the average center, but better than he has ever been.

BTH is in better shape than he has been in the past. Look at his body, he actually has much more definition than he used to. Take a look at Blatche's body ... he has work to do to strengthen up. I think BTH worked harder this summer than he ever has. Who knows ... he probably didn't think he would be back with the wiz, and thus, wanted to make sure he made an impression with whatever team he was with. It just so happened that that team was still the wiz.

I also think BTH is much happier about the type of ball the wiz are playing. He doesn't pass up an opportunity to mention how everyone is involved now, and how everyone gets to touch the ball. It seems to me that he is happier with the way the wiz play when Gil is not in the rotation. Even in the game against Indy where Gil had 11 assists, BTH said this is what happens when all the teammates are involved. BTH also goes out of his way to point out when his teammates have good games, then follows it up with comments about team ball. I think what the wiz are doing now fits BTH.

A couple of years ago, BTH said his dwidling production was a result of Larry not being here anymore ... Larry kept him involved in the game. Something he did not apparently feel like Gil was doing. Well, he's involved now. It may change when Gil returns. Let's hope not.

Posted by: 2cents4wiz | December 11, 2007 3:22 PM

If Haywood was so great he wouldn't be getting benched for entire quarters. Not the same anon as before but a good starting center gets more minutes the Haywood

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:23 PM

You might as well start looking for a new team to support because he is and will be the face of this franchise. Whether that entails a max deal remains to be seen but if Gil chooses to stay they will pay.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:25 PM

I watch every game start to finish. Haywood has played better so far this year but the old Brenda is starting to creap back. Rebounds down to 7. He will be back to his typical 6 and 6 in no time. Sure he's had double doubles so far but its not going to last. Blatche is better than him. Brenda's minutes will just keep going down. Also if he was good he would be getting the critical minutes in games. Instead he is on the bench and Eddie puts in people he trusts to win games.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:27 PM

"Dude! What is this infatuation with Gilbert. You don't disappoint. I don't care what the topic is (Brenda Haywood) somehow, someway you find a way to pull Gilbert into YOUR conversation. You are one sick, scary, and pathetic individual to have that much hate for someone who doesn't give a flying fig about you. I pity you because you are really pathetic.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 03:07 PM "

Who is Gilbert? I only know Gilby. Also, some anon poster here appears to not like Gilby either, but is probably just faking.

You can me sick, scary, and pathetic, but your love for Gilby is also sick, scary, and pathetic. But, you could be worse. You could be his mother, his kids, or his babies's momma. Kicked to the curb while he's busy playing his xbox and building his grotto.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 3:28 PM

DC,

Your such a cad. Get a life, dude. I'm not commenting further to you so you can call me whatever your juvenile mind comes up with bc I really don't care. You should stick to basketball and stop personal attacks on people that post here and/or the player's personal lives, which you love to speculate on. Wonder how much scrutiny your life could withstand? Regardless, the only person in here that consistently pisses people off is you my friend. I happen to "like" reading what others have to say. It would be nice if there was an ignore option in these blogs bc then my eyes would never scan your garbage again!!!

Posted by: Rob P | December 11, 2007 3:28 PM

mark I have argued with you before. You are clueless please dont read or respond to my posts.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 3:28 PM

""Oh yeah, it was her that was bringing my spirits down...

Now she's back in California. You ask for space, you know, because everything feels closed in ... the house is dirty, the kids are drawing on the walls and on the couches and you're thinking, "Oh man, I can't do this. I'm not playing well and I'm coming home to all this."""

What a great way to describe your babies's momma in a nutshell, after she put two of your kids on this earth after 1.5 years of carrying them around in her belly.

Sean Taylor's baby made Sean a changed man, more mature, more professional, more serious.

In contrast, Gilby's babies made him more selfish, more self centered, and even more of a diva. Classic Gilby, the cartoon character.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 3:33 PM

"DC,

Your such a cad. Get a life, dude. I'm not commenting further to you so you can call me whatever your juvenile mind comes up with bc I really don't care. You should stick to basketball and stop personal attacks on people that post here and/or the player's personal lives, which you love to speculate on. Wonder how much scrutiny your life could withstand? Regardless, the only person in here that consistently pisses people off is you my friend. I happen to "like" reading what others have to say. It would be nice if there was an ignore option in these blogs bc then my eyes would never scan your garbage again!!!

Posted by: Rob P | December 11, 2007 03:28 PM "

Get a life Robbie, and stop whining like a little girl. If your superstar hero Gilby didn't want to be judged, then he shouldn't be putting himself and his private life out there to pad his finances. I don't create the Gilby drama/news, I just forward it.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 3:37 PM

DCMAN...you really do need to get off Gil's nuts and stop criticizing...I can picture you desperately trying to get off the couch when he was hitting buzzer beater shots last year to chear him on...hopefully inside you are not a childish hater, but a fan instead

Posted by: LooseCannon | December 11, 2007 3:44 PM

Anon, sign your posts and I will gladly ignore you. You didn't figure out that there's no way for anyone to know who's who if you DON'T SIGN YOUR POSTS ! And I'm clueless? Duh !

Posted by: mark | December 11, 2007 3:50 PM

How about we just ignore that little puppy named Dc Man who wants someone to pay attention to it? I think he is sitting in his chair by himself and with no one to talk to or be with. Ohhhhh Thats so sad. hm maybe not. maye be he should do what blatche did or mya be not because I don't think he can afford that $50.

Posted by: Gil | December 11, 2007 3:52 PM

Ok so now back to basketball. I was wondering, who is the last "pass first" PG to lead his team to a title?

Because the way I see it we need Arenas to turn into Zeke circa 1987. Reign back on the scoring and dominate at the end. Kinda like his gameplan this year before the knee went. Obviously he's not going to be 100% this season if he comes back at all. But assuming you bring back the entire team next year with some EG pieces added here and there, you see where Ernie is going with this. I can't say I can hate on the gameplan.

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | December 11, 2007 3:59 PM

DCMAN is Gilbert in disguise!!

Posted by: Section101 | December 11, 2007 4:05 PM

yo Section 101.....what row you sit?

Posted by: LooseCannon | December 11, 2007 4:08 PM

anybody here from WizardsExtreme.com???

just wondering if anyone knows why the site went down?

Posted by: LooseCannon | December 11, 2007 4:14 PM

"

Ok so now back to basketball. I was wondering, who is the last "pass first" PG to lead his team to a title?

Because the way I see it we need Arenas to turn into Zeke circa 1987. Reign back on the scoring and dominate at the end. Kinda like his gameplan this year before the knee went. Obviously he's not going to be 100% this season if he comes back at all. But assuming you bring back the entire team next year with some EG pieces added here and there, you see where Ernie is going with this. I can't say I can hate on the gameplan.

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | December 11, 2007 03:59 PM "

You don't have to be a pass first point guard to win a title. Many guards such as Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, and DWade are not pure passing guards and have won titles. These guys lead, run the team, play D, and can score to keep teams honest. Gilby can only do the latter.

The real question is "who's the first one dimensional shoot first point guard to lead his team to a title?"

Answer: No one, and it won't be Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 4:20 PM

"How about we just ignore that little puppy named Dc Man who wants someone to pay attention to it? I think he is sitting in his chair by himself and with no one to talk to or be with. Ohhhhh Thats so sad. hm maybe not. maye be he should do what blatche did or mya be not because I don't think he can afford that $50.

Posted by: Gil | December 11, 2007 03:52 PM "

Gilby, I think you should call your mom up and tell her you love her and welcome her home to your house. Check the Y's in Miami.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 4:22 PM

"

DCMAN...you really do need to get off Gil's nuts and stop criticizing...I can picture you desperately trying to get off the couch when he was hitting buzzer beater shots last year to chear him on...hopefully inside you are not a childish hater, but a fan instead

Posted by: LooseCannon | December 11, 2007 03:44 PM "

Only time I got off the couch last season was to turn off the TV in disgust after the 2nd half season debacle, especially the 1-4 west coast trip.

I did get up and cheer when Gilby busted his knee tho. Not cheering that he got hurt, but because he was actually in the paint trying to get a rebound or defend until wallace crashed into him. It's a rare occasion.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 4:25 PM

Just for you DC man

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Posted by: LooseCannon | December 11, 2007 4:32 PM

Only one poster ever comes on here that uses Gilby. Suddenly a anon. poster starts Gilby dissing. Wonder who that could be? DC Idiot is the only poster on here to admit to posting using other's names after he stumbled into getting caught.
DC Idiot also spent about a week this summer on a racial rant that he started by saying that Songaila was the only smart Wizards player cause he was white. Quite often when a poster comes on to support DC Idiot, everyone can tell it's him saying what a cool dude DC Idiot is. DC Idiot attacks every female poster that ever comes on here with his vulgar mouth. He'll say something vulgar reponding to this post about Lisa, probably another comment about oral sex. Can't stand women but he loves talking about rearends and what comes out of them.Fool, everybody knows you here, move on!

Posted by: mablisamabnot | December 11, 2007 4:43 PM

DC Man, you have some issues brother. I understand that no one has to read what you post, but you post constantly as if you're looking for the attention. You constantly bring up Gil and all the wrong he's done in his life and you expect no one to respond? If you're going to dish it, then take it when its dished to you. Why are you so angry? What has Gibert done to you?

I understand that you can dislike a player...trust me..there are plenty of NBA players that I dislike, but I don't go on blogs and post hateful messages about them. I just think its a waste of time and energy. And frankly, it makes you look pitiful and stupid. I think you need reevaluate your priorities in life and start focusing on your personal issues (envy, jealousy, and anger management).

Chill out....have a beer. Enjoy life.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 11, 2007 4:50 PM

Dwayne Wade is not a point guard. But he handles the ball a lot for the Heat becuase their point guard, Jason Williams, is really not a great distributor.

Just like some forwards (Antawn Jamison among them) can be called a 3 1/2, probably some guards can be described as a 1 1/2. Gilbert Arenas I think is in that category, as was the man whose number the Wizards just retired, Earl Monroe. Among today's players the ones who most closely fit this hybrid model (other than Gilbert himself) are Baron Davis and Alan Iverson.

And with all of these players, the thing is to just enjoy what they bring to the game. They all take a few shots too many, but they never fail to make an impact and to entertain.

And when they find the right environment, as The Pearl did with the Knicks, they can win you a championship.

Posted by: KHRabb | December 11, 2007 5:09 PM

I think DC Man88 is fixated on Gilbert for some reason. Actually, the truth is if someone bothers another person too much (as Gilbert does DC Man) and they have not done anything to that person personally then the problem is always with the person that is bothered (DC man).

However, DC Man usually does not attack other bloggers first. Usually, they attack him for his assault on Arenas and then DC Man gives it back to them.

If people on this board wants this to really stop, just ignore posts you don't like, otherwise the same things will continue.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 5:13 PM

One dimensional guard?

Here are Gilbert's yearly numbers before this season

2001-02: 24.6 mpg, 10.9 ppg, 3.7 apg
2002-03: 35.0 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 6.3 apg
2003-04: 37.6 mpg, 19.6 ppg, 5.0 apg
2004-05: 40.9 mpg, 25.5 ppg, 5.1 apg
2005-06: 42.3 mpg, 29.3 ppg, 6.1 apg
2006-07: 39.8 mpg, 28.4 ppg, 6.0 apg

There are things to criticise about Arenas' game. But the notion that he is one dimensional is ludicrous.
Gilbert has the ability to run this offense, the question is will he pull back on his free-lancing and shooting now that Butler, Haywood et al. have shown that they can carry the load. That will be the key when he gets back.
And like it or not, if the Wizards want to compete for the East or compete against the very best in this league, then Gilbert needs to be on the floor.

Posted by: George Templeton | December 11, 2007 5:40 PM

"Only one poster ever comes on here that uses Gilby. Suddenly a anon. poster starts Gilby dissing. Wonder who that could be? DC Idiot is the only poster on here to admit to posting using other's names after he stumbled into getting caught.
DC Idiot also spent about a week this summer on a racial rant that he started by saying that Songaila was the only smart Wizards player cause he was white. Quite often when a poster comes on to support DC Idiot, everyone can tell it's him saying what a cool dude DC Idiot is. DC Idiot attacks every female poster that ever comes on here with his vulgar mouth. He'll say something vulgar reponding to this post about Lisa, probably another comment about oral sex. Can't stand women but he loves talking about rearends and what comes out of them.Fool, everybody knows you here, move on!

Posted by: mablisamabnot | December 11, 2007 04:43 PM "

Thanks for the synopsis Mufasa. Now, don't you have a gazelle to go chase?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 5:47 PM

Boy, today was about what I expected. KHRabb good point about players that don't fit into a particular mold. Often that is what makes them so difficult for other teams to game plan for and defend.

Elvin Hayes and Wes Unseld, neither was what you'd call a typical center. Elvin wasn't really what you'd call a power forward back in those days. They blended together and made one heck of a tandom.

One thing I really like about Young, he fits that mold of being part point, part two. If Young keeps working at his defensive game him and Arenas could make a deadly pair in the backcourt.

I can see the two of them getting back to running some of the switches that Larry and Gil used to use so effectively.

Reispace, Bobby D was another one of those players that couldn't be exactly plugged into one role. But he was hard for the other team to prepare for, if the Bullets wanted to go small he could play upfront or he could slide into the backcourt, didn't seem to matter to him, he'd sink that sweet jumper over anyone.

Adrian Dantley was one of my alltime favorite players, and you sure couldn't slot him into a certain mold. I saw him play anything from power forward to shooting guard, some guys are just players.

I still look at Gil's last couple of games before this second injury, he played very complete games that weren't all about scoring. He's still young and his game is still growing. Like the great "Earl the Pearl" I think he's smart enough to adapt and change his game as he sees what is needed to get a ring.

I just hope this organization is smart enough to let Gil do it for this team, not somewhere else.

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 5:47 PM

"DC Man, you have some issues brother. I understand that no one has to read what you post, but you post constantly as if you're looking for the attention. You constantly bring up Gil and all the wrong he's done in his life and you expect no one to respond? If you're going to dish it, then take it when its dished to you. Why are you so angry? What has Gibert done to you?

I understand that you can dislike a player...trust me..there are plenty of NBA players that I dislike, but I don't go on blogs and post hateful messages about them. I just think its a waste of time and energy. And frankly, it makes you look pitiful and stupid. I think you need reevaluate your priorities in life and start focusing on your personal issues (envy, jealousy, and anger management).

Chill out....have a beer. Enjoy life.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 11, 2007 04:50 PM "

PDiddy, don't you have 5 kids to go watch and change diapers for? Why are you writing on this blog? Oh, I see now why you support Gilby. Both of you are deadbeat dads.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 5:48 PM

"I think DC Man88 is fixated on Gilbert for some reason. Actually, the truth is if someone bothers another person too much (as Gilbert does DC Man) and they have not done anything to that person personally then the problem is always with the person that is bothered (DC man).

However, DC Man usually does not attack other bloggers first. Usually, they attack him for his assault on Arenas and then DC Man gives it back to them.

If people on this board wants this to really stop, just ignore posts you don't like, otherwise the same things will continue.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 05:13 PM "

I think you almost got the point. Gilby is a human being with faults, but he's everyone's hero here. Just the mere mention of Gilby gets everyone all hot and bothered. It's so funny.

Gilby lovers are so predictable. It's like a stupid cat chasing a laser light that I'm pointing here and there.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 5:51 PM

See the little Racist streak is rearing it's ugly head again. Speaking of rearing, DCIdiot don't you have a date tonight?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 5:58 PM

"One thing I really like about Young, he fits that mold of being part point, part two. If Young keeps working at his defensive game him and Arenas could make a deadly pair in the backcourt.

I can see the two of them getting back to running some of the switches that Larry and Gil used to use so effectively.

Posted by: GM | December 11, 2007 05:47 PM "

To say that Nick Young has any point guard ability brings to question whether that back injury is really a brain injury.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 6:01 PM

However, DC Man usually does not attack other bloggers first. Usually, they attack him for his assault on Arenas and then DC Man gives it back to them.

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 05:13 PM

You were saying, anon?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 6:58 PM

I could say DC Man responded so strongly to GM for past insults between the two of them.

But DC Man could easily have just said, "In my opinion Nick Young does not have any point guard ability."

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 7:11 PM

Khrabb how many rings do baron davis and allen iverson have??????????? You can put those guys on pretty much any team except maybe the spurs and they still won't win. AI and Melo together how is that working out? And they have the defensive player of the year. Nuggets have no shot. Aso earlier it wasn't DCMANN88 ripping gilbert/gilby/gil whatever you would like to call him. CARON is better!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | December 11, 2007 9:29 PM

"See the little Racist streak is rearing it's ugly head again. Speaking of rearing, DCIdiot don't you have a date tonight?

Posted by: | December 11, 2007 05:58 PM "

Why, did your mom put her garter belt in the wash?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 11, 2007 10:03 PM

Please stop with the gay jokes. thank you. I am gay so what? and I think I am in love with Gilbert, so what?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 12, 2007 2:54 AM

Hey DCMan88,

How was Gilbert expecting Laura to keep the house clean? Remember this story from Gilby!

It started out real simple. My girlfriend had to drive me to practice in the morning to go work out and I was looking in the car and I guess my daughter dragged sticks and rocks from outside and there was yogurt and stuff all on the floor in the backseat. So I'm thinking to myself, 'Man, this car is filthy!' But instead of thinking it to myself, it slipped out and I said it out loud.

So now the cat was out of the bag and I was like, 'Are you ever going to clean the car?' And just like a woman with kids is going to do, she hit me with, 'I take care of the kids all day, and I don't have time to do this, and do that, and do this and do that.' So I'm like, 'OK, but this is my dad's car and my dad keeps his car clean''

It was about her registering her car, because she didn't register her car. It's been sitting in the garage for two months with no tags. So I'm like, 'If you register your car, then I can get my dad's car back and my dad's car would be spotless and there would be no problem because you could have a party in your car if you want to. If you want to have a party, you and the kids, and y'all want to have a party and throw drinks around, hey, be my guest. That's your car, you have to live with that mess, I don't go in there.'

And then she got so frustrated with that, because she came back with, 'I take care of the kids and if you want the car cleaned, you have to clean it.' So we was on 16th and Constitution and she kicked me out of the car and I had to walk all the way to the gym. It was probably a mile, but I had on smaller shoes. You know, I wear 13s, but I had on 12s because they matched the outfit I was wearing so my feet were hurting and I didn't have any cab money to take a cab and that all played a part.

So I went on a strike.

I think all men should do this when they have a disagreement. This is Relationship 101. When you have a fight with 'the other,' don't answer their calls and don't answer their pages. That usually gets the point across that you're not talking to them. So, I held out for seven days. I went on strike for seven days and stayed at the gym for seven days. I slept in the gym. They got nice couches in there and it just kept me in the gym working on my knee and stuff.

So, back to the EA event, I didn't have a passport or driver's license to actually go to Canada because I was on strike and I didn't want to go back to the house because she kicked me out. She kicked me out of the car on a Sunday, I had to wait till the following Sunday to talk to her again. Now we're good. She just got her car registered two days ago, we're waiting on that to be finalized but my dad's car still looks like trash day.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 10:35 AM

WTF?!?!?!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 12, 2007 1:12 PM

I am gay, hear me roar.
Meowww!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 13, 2007 1:34 AM

I lost a big bet when Gil missed two free throws in that playoffs game.

That's why I hate Gilby. That, and his rejection of my advances towards him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 13, 2007 1:36 AM

Henceforth, I will sign all my posts,
"DC Sashay88".

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 13, 2007 1:47 AM

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