Wiz at Bulls

Late news: Darius Songaila gets the start over Andray Blatche. Don't have an explanation because Eddie Jordan kept it quiet until just before tip-off. Interesting.

Larry Hughes in the starting lineup for the Bulls tonight. He replaces Thabo Sefolosha, who has a groin problem. All hands on deck for the Wizards (well, except for Gilbert, Caron and Etan).

I'm not sure how to call this one. The Bulls are coming off a win but it was over Indiana so it's tough to read that one. The Wiz got thumped royally Tuesday night but earned one of the best wins of the season Monday night. My key to the night: rebounding. Haywood, Songaila and Jamison have to board well and reserves like Blatche and McGuire have to keep Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas from creating too many second-chance opportunities.

If the Wiz can get this one, they end the trip 2-1 and that's not all that bad considering the circumstances.

By Ivan Carter |  February 29, 2008; 5:55 PM ET
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What channel are they on tonight? ESPN is carrying a different game...arrrrrghhh!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 8:16 PM

yea i would like to watch the game as well, but it looks like i can not pick it up on comcast in anne arundel county.

I was looking forward to watching the game. If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Posted by: jmoney | February 29, 2008 8:26 PM

I cant find it in Virginia Beach either. I got Boston vs Charlotte and Utah vs NO.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 8:32 PM

They are on channel 50, which I can't get too well up here north of Baltimore city. I will have to record the Comcast replay 1:30 am replay and view it some time Saturday. so far they are holding their own with Songalia starting. It's tied at 18! fantastic.

By the way, analyst Glenn Consor is GREAT. You learn a lot listening to him with Dave Johnson. I wish radio up here were synced with the tv. Buck and Phil are good guys, but...to put it nicely, there is no comparison, in my humble opinion.

Posted by: BmoreRev | February 29, 2008 8:32 PM

AB getting benched...no comment from EJ. I think Les BouleS are so fearful now of bad press, given that the team is depleted, that they won't chance any more decreases in fan support.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 8:53 PM

You may not want to watch it tomorrow. They are playing terrible. DS just got thrown out on a double tech right before the half. They're down 52-34 at the break.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 9:16 PM

DS, True Warrior, True Pro, gets tossed from the game when the team needed him most, being 18 pts. down. Great.

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"He's had some ailments but he just comes out every day," Jordan said of Stevenson, who has been playing on a sore knee but has started 223 consecutive games. "He's a warrior, man, a true warrior. His confidence is growing -- he's making threes -- he's just a true pro. This is a man's league and he is man. In the dictionary next to that word there is a picture of DeShawn Stevenson."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/25/AR2008022503221.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:21 PM

That Virginia Beach comment earlier was me by the way, I forgot to put my name on it. I thought of something while watching the Hornets bash the Jazz. For those of you that are sick and tired of hearing Western Conference quality vs Eastern Conference quality, you will want to stop reading this now. This will be a long post.

Why does the Western Conference get all of the breaks?

For example: in the 2005 draft the first two picks went to the East. Bucks took Andrew Bogut and the Hawks took Marvin Williams. Right after that the Jazz and Hornets pick the two point guards of the future (Deron Williams & Chris Paul). The next season Bargnani goes East (and is okay), but Aldridge gets traded from Chi to Port for Tyrus Thomas and Brandon Roy falls all the way to Port. This past year Oden and Durant go to the West. The top couple teams in each conference are pretty equal. But while teams like Boston and Miami got good by morgaging their futures with old teams; Portland, Utah, NO, etc got better and have young teams. LA is able to get Kobe help, while Lebron and Wade can't get any.

So my questions are: Is it better GMs & scouts? More aggressive owners? Dumb luck? Better coaches? Something else? I'd be really interested to see what other people think.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 9:22 PM

I'm watching the game and we're getting blown out again. Another DNP by the team! At least show up fellas!

EJ for coach of the year!

By the way, Blatche is not starting bc he started to believe he was playing on a hockey team. Too much skating!!! Although McGuire is the player I would start in his place not Songalia.

Posted by: Rob P | February 29, 2008 9:24 PM

The Lock Smith was just mailing it in.....his mouth really misses that wisdom tooth and he didn't have too much of that to spare.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | February 29, 2008 9:24 PM

Can anyone tell me why EJ will not play Oleksiy Pecherov???

Posted by: emac | February 29, 2008 9:26 PM

"Can anyone tell me why EJ will not play Oleksiy Pecherov???

Posted by: emac | February 29, 2008 09:26 PM "

He blinds EJ with his pasty white skin.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:28 PM

I should clarify part of my post. I do not consider Miami an elite team. I was trying to say that they won a title recently and are now terrible and Boston might be the same in a couple of years.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 9:28 PM

"I should clarify part of my post. I do not consider Miami an elite team. I was trying to say that they won a title recently and are now terrible and Boston might be the same in a couple of years.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 09:28 PM "

What's worse?

Winning a championship and then becoming bad, or just being and staying bad? I'll take the former.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:32 PM

Me too.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 9:34 PM

Gosh, I wish more Les BouleS games were on ESPN. Bucky and Phil are so bad. So tired of hearing about Elvin Hayes and other old fart Les BouleS of previous years. I guess the key to job security is to be 100% biased against the opponent.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:36 PM

Dude,

You are asking a great question. Since we are getting destroyed now by Bulls I'll take time to chime in.

I have a crazy theory on this. It is more than the luck of the draw or luck of the ping pong ball. As you have mentioned the front offices have scouted and drafted more wisely. but there is something else I think. Here in the east we have teams that have traditional fans that have soaked up the hard wood ever since they could walk. Big cities like Philly, New York, Boston, Washington, Chicago have a long history of hoop culture and the fan base in these cities is very different than the fan base in cities like San Antonio, Salt Lake city, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix. Other than the Laker fans the teams out west have fan bases that show great affection and great patience with their teams-win or lose. So there is less pressure on teams to win right now. They tend to draft and build not just to win today but to build a perrinial contender. The surprising activity last month before the trade deadline was amazing in that those teams realized that they needed to make moves to try to get over the top. But those teams were built with long term in mind.

As I continue to think about it, the issue is not just size of these towns. Hoosier country and Carolina are also traditional hoop hotbeds and are not big cities. But both regions are east of the Mississippi and in NBA Eastern Conference territory.

If you read carefullly this board, and the eagerness with which we want to fire EJ, get rid of AJ, not re-sign Gilbert...you will see what I am talking about. We have a culture of impatient hoop fans that is the enemy of patient management of these teams.

A wild theory. I'd love to see if anyone agrees with it. And no...I have never lived out west in one of these cities. I lived in middle america for 2 years doing masters work in Chicago, which is closest thing to that mind set that I have ben around.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 9:41 PM

9:41 The was my post. And I can't believe we have come back to take the lead! It's all about the heart baby!

Posted by: BmoreRev | February 29, 2008 9:44 PM

It is comebacks like this that convince me that EJ gets these guys to play hard. We have for months chronicled our frustrations with his x and o's. But this team just hangs in there and I think we must give props to EJ. He pushes them but somehow keeps them from getting too down on themselves. Even the bench players who want more playing time don't do a lot of outward pouting. The Thomas-Haywood junk has not benn issue this year and I think we have underplayed that angle on the team's superior attitude and confidence.

Posted by: BmoreRev | February 29, 2008 9:48 PM

"If you read carefullly this board, and the eagerness with which we want to fire EJ, get rid of AJ, not re-sign Gilbert...you will see what I am talking about. We have a culture of impatient hoop fans that is the enemy of patient management of these teams.

Posted by: | February 29, 2008 09:41 PM "

Impatience?!?!

30 years since the last championship under the same owner, coupled with a laundry list of missteps, poor decisions, and questionable motives is not impatience. It's reality.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:52 PM

Down 18 at the half? WTF? 5 pt lead?

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 9:53 PM

End of the third Wiz up by 3, great 3rd quarter!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 9:54 PM

Wow, end of the third and DCMan is still an idiot!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 9:55 PM

"Wow, end of the third and DCMan is still an idiot!

Posted by: | February 29, 2008 09:55 PM "

Sure, I'm an idiot while you must be the one who thinks Les BouleS are championship glory bound this season.

Let's see who's right when the playoffs are over.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 9:57 PM

Rev - That is a interesting theory that I have never heard. You might have something there.

DC Man - You are right about the Wiz being bad for a long time. To play devil's advocate though, it hasn't been 5 years since Grunfeld took over. This regime has the team in better shape than it has been in a long time. The Cuban/Nelson regime has been in Dallas for 8 years and have zero titles to show for it and they spend a ton of money.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 10:03 PM

"Let's see who's right when the playoffs are over."

Just to be clear, how are to judge if you right if not? If the Wizards fail to win a championship, then you're right?

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:05 PM

"How are we to judge if you are right or not." Is what I meant.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:14 PM

"DC Man - You are right about the Wiz being bad for a long time. To play devil's advocate though, it hasn't been 5 years since Grunfeld took over. This regime has the team in better shape than it has been in a long time. The Cuban/Nelson regime has been in Dallas for 8 years and have zero titles to show for it and they spend a ton of money.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 10:03 PM "

Avery Johnson is Dallas's coach.

If you're a Dallas fan, you can't be mad because your owner is doing whatever it takes to win. He's giving his players everything they need to help them win. Also, they are a contender year after year, unlike Les BouleS, who are pretenders.

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"On a larger scale, Jordan wants to win now. Like any coach who signed a two-year extension with a team option for the third year last summer, the continuity line gets old.

"But I understand Mr. Pollin's standpoint," Jordan said. "We want to stay within a certain budget for the Washington Wizards. We're not going to be like four or five or six other teams that can do anything it takes to win. Those are decisions we made within the organization. It doesn't bother me. There are times when you say, 'How come we can't get this guy?' But then you say, 'These are the parameters the organization has set.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602210.htm

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 10:17 PM

I'm confused by the bet?

DC Man88 is already an idiot so why do we have to wait to end of the season to call anon the winner?

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 10:17 PM

"I'm confused by the bet?

DC Man88 is already an idiot so why do we have to wait to end of the season to call anon the winner?

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 10:17 PM "

And you're an @ss licker.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 10:18 PM

It takes a real man to spell it "@ss." Classy and subtle.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:21 PM

"It takes a real man to spell it "@ss." Classy and subtle.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:21 PM "

Duh, the filters on this blog prevent that actual word from being posted.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 29, 2008 10:24 PM

Nice one ass.

Posted by: ass | February 29, 2008 10:26 PM

Can I be an ass too?

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:28 PM

I'm a bottom.

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 10:30 PM

Great win. It was easy to count the Wiz out, but they stuck with it.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:34 PM

I can't believe they came back to beat the Bulls. They must have really played their asses off.

Posted by: Dude | February 29, 2008 10:35 PM

Wow nice win! Great effort from the entire team. DSong came up with some big plays along with BTH.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 10:35 PM

@DCMan88

I know you're offended when you impersonate me and JSchon. I'm sorry if I offended you, but please don't post in other people's names.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:36 PM

I love being offended.

Posted by: Smith | February 29, 2008 10:39 PM

Seriously Herb...
Why dont you use one of numerous names...

Herb
Clewiston
DC Man88
Lance
Village Idiot

You have plenty.
Dont be so selfish.

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 10:44 PM

Please call me any of the names below, but don't call me just to clean out your plumbing.

Herb
Clewiston
DC Man88
Lance
Village Idiot

Posted by: JSchon | February 29, 2008 10:49 PM

Who cares about which bloggers are asses, blah blah blah. Go over to Steinberg's blog to go at it with one another.

Great win tonight because we took shots that were there by making extra passes, instead of launching three-pointer after three-pointer. Way to go!!

Posted by: CN | February 29, 2008 10:52 PM

Great win by the Wizards tonight. Another great coaching job done by Eddie. For the life of me I can not understand how some folks on here are giving Eddie such a hard time with the crew he has left to work with.

Yea I was one of the main ones calling for Eddie's head last season and the beginning of this one. However my reasons were because he keep playing slow small-ball with Songalia at the 5 for most of the game when he had two legit 7 footers sitting on the pine being wasted.

All I keep asking for was to give Haywood more playing time and then to back him up with AB. For all 48 minutes of the games "length" needed and needs to be on the floor at that 5 spot, no matter what. Even if it is OPEC playing there.

Nice move by Eddie to start Songalia at the "3", where he belongs by the way. The last 3 to 4 games he has been excelling because Eddie has not been playing him out of position at the 5. Songalia jumps the opposing guard at the top of the key just as well or better then Ruffin did last year. That is Songalia's forte.

Now that Eddie has made these changes good things are starting to happen. I think he finally sees that he was wasting his "length" on the bench and he is using them right now. No surprise good things are happening now, other then the Houston game (crazy defensive team)

Keep up the good work Eddie, help is on the way soon....

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | February 29, 2008 11:00 PM

this is the problem i have with the princeton offense either it's not strong enough against tougher defenses or the players don't know how to maniplate the offense to make it look stronger like Kobe manipulates the triangle offense as for the defense the wizards need to improve on a lot of areas to be a threat in the playoffs such as pressuring priemeter shooters sealing the baseline quicker and playing spread out defese better and closing three point shooters and knowing when to double team and when not to one area Haywood has to improve his defense on is staying on the paint too long and getting three second violations.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 11:04 PM

maybe if i write with no punctuation everyone on here can see that i cannot do it because i cannot understand why when the sentence is too long no one can understand it without punctuation it's impossible to see when a sentence ends and the next one begins it makes the post really hard to read

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 11:13 PM

And I thought the Wiz had a crappy coach...the Bulls coach is really bad. That looks like a very disorganized team. Kinda reminds me of EJ last year...I the Wiz should count their blessings, it could be worse.
It was an interesting game, as no one player for the Wiz was the hero. Five or six different guys stepped up big at different parts of the game. And dispite unusually poor FT shooting, they still won. I agree, DSong is starting to look more like his old self again.

Posted by: oddjob | February 29, 2008 11:17 PM

Anyone who has a clue about pro roundball knows that EJ is doing yeomans work coaching this team, they could have easily given up tonight but they gutted out a huge W.Its only the idiots who don't have a clue about coaching in the NBA who crticize Eddie who else could get this team to play the way they have with all the injuries and please don't tell me about all the minutes that CB,AJ,and Deshawn are playing,what choice does he have if he had a GM with a clue the Wiz would not be under five hundred. If and when EJ ever leaves he wont go unemployed long, you see what happened to Scott(MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY)Skilles in CHI-TOWN SEE YA!!!! Eddie knows what buttons to push with this squad,so lets give some well earned support.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | February 29, 2008 11:30 PM

Trade for Jarrett Jack
Trade Gilbert for Jackie Moon
Sign Coby Karl

Posted by: Haiku | February 29, 2008 11:35 PM

Great Win for the Wiz but I am wondering if this is all for a first round exit. Clearly we are not championship caliber especially w/o GA and Caron gimpy. A tough position to be in as I hate to see all this effort and the team com etogether as it has w/ GA but we are not going far...so let's get a pick because it is no sure bet that GA or AJ will be back? What to do? Strong effort and a quality win nonetheless!!

Posted by: wywiz | February 29, 2008 11:52 PM

that was w/o GA in previous.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 29, 2008 11:53 PM

The season boils down to this: The two best players on the team are out and have been out for a while. The best talent on the team has only played a handful of games. Take the two best players from any other team and see what happens. Its a tribute to the players and coach that they are still anywhere near .500. Many a team would have mailed it in by now. Unless they are completely healthy going into the playoffs, this is a one and done team. Considering the injuries its nothing to be ashamed about.

Posted by: Mike in the Springs | March 1, 2008 12:04 AM

Well Said...

Posted by: wywiz | March 1, 2008 1:00 AM

Nice comeback! The best 3rd qtr maybe ever. It was 19-1 with 5 mins left in the qtr.

I'm just glad we showed a heartbeat.

Having not started seemed to wake up Blatche from cruise control too! Nice move by Eddie.

So all the Eddie lovers can jump on the bandwagon for now. The untouchable career losing coach. But, I'll let the love flow tonight!

What is up with the Chicago coaching? Now that team is too talented to be dormats.


Posted by: Rob P | March 1, 2008 1:04 AM

Well said, Mike. I agree wholeheartedly.

Posted by: kalorama | March 1, 2008 1:42 AM

"So my questions are: Is it better GMs & scouts? More aggressive owners? Dumb luck? Better coaches? Something else? I'd be really interested to see what other people think.

A little bit of all of the above, really.

There's an inherent glitch in the playoff/lottery system that also helps the West. The 14 teams that miss the playoffs get into the lottery, whatever their record. The 16 teams that make the playoffs don't pick until after the lottery is over, whatever their records.

This season there's a good chance that a West team that wins 50 games (and maybe as many as 2 teams that win 45 games) could miss the playoffs, while it's possible that as many as three East teams that win fewer than 40 games could end up in the playoffs. So it ends up in a situation where three pretty good West teams with significantly better records get help in the lottery (including a shot, longshot granted, at moving up) while three mediocre East teams that really need help get shut out of the lottery.

The rich get richer. The way of the world.

Posted by: kalorama | March 1, 2008 2:07 AM

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