Arenas close? Haywood out

Gilbert Arenas said that he will undergo an MRI exam on Monday or Tuesday and if the results are positive, he expects to be cleared to return to game action. I asked whether that could mean a return as soon as Wednesday night in Orlando and he shook his head yes.

Arenas, who has gone through four full practices, also said was he tempted to suit up for the game against Cleveland the other night but said that team doctors wouldn't clear him. Thus the MRI, according to Arenas (sometimes it's hard to tell just how forthcoming he is being). Just judging by the look on his face and the way he told me that part about the other night, I don't believe that his playing was a serious option.

"After I get my MRI, I can play if everything is fine," Arenas said.

Stay tuned.

Meantime, Brendan Haywood is out tonight (left patella tendon). He practiced yesterday but the word is that the knee was bothering him late during Thursday's win over Cleveland. Andray Blatche starts at center

Chris Kaman (sore lower back) is out for the Clippers.

By Ivan Carter |  March 15, 2008; 6:29 PM ET
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What about Kaman for the bad guys?

Posted by: Jonie | March 15, 2008 6:34 PM

Thanks for the update Ivan... I would imagine that Eddie is probably having a difficult time adjusting to having a full squad at practice.

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 6:54 PM

Godspeed Gilberto.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 6:54 PM

Check that.... Darius Songaila starts for Haywood, not Blatche.

Posted by: Ivan | March 15, 2008 6:56 PM

Uh oh... Smallball...

Although with Kaman out, it might not be so bad.

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 6:59 PM

sounds like Blatche is still in the dog house...woof.

Posted by: oddjob | March 15, 2008 7:23 PM

Is Caron playing? They said on Comcast he hurt his hand and might not play. Haven't been near the TV since.

Posted by: eric(baltimore) | March 15, 2008 7:31 PM

AJ said it perceptively at half time, unless they start setting the tone defensively, they might lose this game. He was not happy. How many times was Maggette (and others) open for the three?

It will be interesting to see how the Wiz respond in the second half.

Posted by: Tim | March 15, 2008 8:14 PM

Why is Caron laying on the floor if he feels great (after playing 41 minutes in his first game in a month)?

Posted by: Izman | March 15, 2008 8:15 PM

Why is Caron laying on the floor if he feels great (after playing 41 minutes in his first game in a month)?

Posted by: Izman | March 15, 2008 08:15 PM

They explained on the Comcast telecast that he's trying to make sure his back and hip are stretched out.

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 8:25 PM

Unless the Wiz show more urgency in the 4th, they are probably going to lose this game. And Philadelphia is currently beating San Antonio at home by 10 at the end of the 3rd.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 8:53 PM

I'd say no more birthday parties during the year for the Wiz.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 9:28 PM

I mean Carmen Electra looks nice but who needs it.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 9:29 PM

OT, the wiz dont deserve to win this one...so they probably will.

Posted by: oddjob | March 15, 2008 9:40 PM

You are so right oddjob.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 9:48 PM

Steve Buckhantz - "And the fans that stuck around see the Wizards pull it out, by the score of 119-109."

Translation - "F all you 'fans' that left early."

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 10:02 PM

Translation of the fans leaving early - "F the Wizards for allowing it to go to OT to begin with - a game they deserved to lose."

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 10:07 PM

Glad to see the guys woke up with 2:00 left to play.

Songaila deserves a few props on this board. He's been playing solid, quiet, smart hoops the past six weeks or so. The guy took a lot of criticism earlier in the year when he wasn't 100%.

Posted by: Prazak | March 15, 2008 10:12 PM

I meant to ask Ivan or Mike: was that Kelvin Sampson sitting behind the Spurs bench last night against the Pisonts? Keeping stats like an assistant coach? Sure did look like him.

Posted by: Prazak | March 15, 2008 10:20 PM

Great to see that Gilby brought the team back and won the game against the Clips with his clutch heroics.

Oh wait, the team came back and won this tight game with team effort and hustle. Didn't require a last second miracle jump shot from a johnny come lately because their toughness, tenacity, and never give up attitude carried them.

Congrats to my favorite team, Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 10:59 PM

I mean Carmen Electra looks nice but who needs it.

Posted by: | March 15, 2008 09:29 PM

That was a rhetorical question, right?

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 11:17 PM

Great to see that Gilby brought the team back and won the game against the Clips with his clutch heroics.

Oh wait, the team came back and won this tight game with team effort and hustle. Didn't require a last second miracle jump shot from a johnny come lately because their toughness, tenacity, and never give up attitude carried them.

Congrats to my favorite team, Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 10:59 PM

Huh?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 15, 2008 11:19 PM

7 players in double figures again tonight.

Butler had a tough shooting night but contributed 12 rebounds and 7 assists - and that HUGE steal at the end.

Jamison was, well, I have no words. He was just great.

Songaila was solid.
Daniels didn't do anything until the 4th and OT.
Young had a nice game again. Too many stupid turn overs, but shot well.
Stevenson got torched by Maggette.
And Blatche played very poorly- what's up with him lately?

The focus and determination didn't show up, especially on Defense, until the later stages of regulation, and then in OT. But a win is a win.

They better play better against Atlanta on Monday...or the Hawks will run them out of the building.

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 11:27 PM

After the game, eddie said he expected haywood to play monday night. Butler had his left wrist and left knee wrapped in ice. The team is off tomorrow.

Posted by: ivan | March 15, 2008 11:31 PM

Any news on HOW Caron hurt his left wrist? Was this the same hand he hurt last season?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 11:37 PM

Any news on HOW Caron hurt his Right wrist? Was this the same hand he hurt last season?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Gilbert Arenas said that he will undergo an MRI exam on Monday or Tuesday and if the results are positive, he expects to be cleared to return to game action. I asked whether that could mean a return as soon as Wednesday night in Orlando and he shook his head yes.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 11:45 PM

The Hawks are gonna run who? out of what building PLEASE!!! they are barely hanging on for a playoff spot I live here in the ATL and when the Hawks and local media are not trying to fire their incompetent coach Mike Woodson, now some of you NBA guru's think EJ ain't qualified you should get a load of this guy.Great game by AJ tonite the WIZ pulled it out in ot are the Clippers sorry or what hope Haywood and Butler are ok and ready for the Hawks.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 15, 2008 11:53 PM

Gilbert Arenas said that he will undergo an MRI exam on Monday or Tuesday and if the results are negative, he expects to be cleared to return to game action. I asked whether that could mean a return as soon as Wednesday night in Orlando and he shook his head no.

Posted by: ivan | March 16, 2008 12:18 AM

There have been so many games the Wizards should've won this year, it is just good to see them steal one from someone else for a change. Here's to Jamison for making up for some missed FTs by hitting those biggies at the end of regulation.
And no one brought up Gilbert yet while praising the Wizards you couldn't help but take a shot at Gilbert. Whatever happened to not wanting to talk about him? None of the posters brought him up?

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 1:52 AM

"Glad to see the guys woke up with 2:00 left to play.

Songaila deserves a few props on this board. He's been playing solid, quiet, smart hoops the past six weeks or so. The guy took a lot of criticism earlier in the year when he wasn't 100%." - Prazak

Totally agree! Songalia is balling. I think he had to readjust based on what the team was asking him to do bc of the injuries. If you remember last year, he basically sat in the wings and got wide open 12 fts from CB and GA and/or hit the boards. This year he has or was operating at the top of the key more and dribbling and/or shooting more contested shots. He is playing well now though. I never criticize hustlers/effort guys like Songalia.

Anyway, this was a win, but a very ugly one! No way it should have gone to overtime. What is with our 1 or max 2 pass offense? It sucks! If you want to play that way keep NY in the game at least bc he can create and make his own shot.

And I slightly question keeping Butler in the game so long particularly in the 4th bc he was absolutely gassed. Thought NY might spell him with about 4/5 mins left. I realize he is a star, but any other player dragging like he was would have been pulled in a second. It's probably better for his own health as well until he gets his full wind back. I'm just waiting for the RE-AGGRAVATION of his injury to happen at this point.

Posted by: Rob P | March 16, 2008 2:31 AM

Think of the win this way.

We probably deserved to lose to Corey Maggette, Tim Thomas, and Mobley at HOME.

Wow!

The way we play ever other game makes me think we don't have a prayer in the first round of the playoffs no matter who is back. I hope we start playing solid playoff basketball soon!!!

Posted by: Rob P | March 16, 2008 2:38 AM

Oh, let's add that the Clippers were playing back to back and we were not!

Yeah, Eddie Jordan for coach of the year!!!

If Rick Adeleman does not win it, they should just get rid of the award altogether.

21 wins in a row, Yao is out, and they are pushing for the number one spot in the WEST!

Now that's impressive coaching!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rob P | March 16, 2008 2:45 AM

DC woMan88 is worse than pathetic.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 3:03 AM

I could hear it coming down from the rafters: We want LeBron, we want LeBron!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 7:18 AM

AB is still very young...as is currently being displayed by his knucklehead level of play as of late. He thinks he is a small forward, I guess. Whenever he puts the ball on the floor for more than one dribble I cringe because I know what is coming next. Turnover. Eddie is clearly punishing him for this behavior by reducing playing time and not starting him when he could have. But AB is not seeming to get it. Perhaps AJ needs to adopt another little brother or BH needs to have another talk with his new lockeroom neighbor. I know he;s got loads of physical skills, but the kh factor may be too strong for him ever to become reliable. So maybe Ernie should just packages him now when his value may be at an all time high for a kickass pt guard this summer.

Posted by: oddjob | March 16, 2008 8:17 AM

Oh, let's add that the Clippers were playing back to back and we were not!

Yeah, Eddie Jordan for coach of the year!!!

If Rick Adeleman does not win it, they should just get rid of the award altogether.

21 wins in a row, Yao is out, and they are pushing for the number one spot in the WEST!

Now that's impressive coaching!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rob P | March 16, 2008 02:45 AM


Exactly.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 8:32 AM

I mean Carmen Electra looks nice but who needs it.

Posted by: | March 15, 2008 09:29 PM

That was a rhetorical question, right?

Posted by: Rook | March 15, 2008 11:17 PM

I mean if having birthday parties (like Gil's last year & Caron's this year) is going to cause them to come out flat and lose or almost lost important games like last nights, then who needs it.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 9:38 AM

Any news on HOW Caron hurt his left wrist? Was this the same hand he hurt last season?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 11:37 PM

If you were a true Wizard fan, and actually followed the team by watching the games, etc... You'd know that Butler hurt his hand last year on a dunk attempt using his RIGHT hand.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 10:00 AM

Carmen Electra was with Dennis Rodman. That earned a spot on the permanent 'Do Not Disturb' list. Same as any woman Prince has been with.

Posted by: mark | March 16, 2008 10:01 AM

"I mean if having birthday parties (like Gil's last year & Caron's this year) is going to cause them to come out flat and lose or almost lost important games like last nights, then who needs it.

Posted by: | March 16, 2008 09:38 AM "

It's all about money. Most dudes make money out of having their birthdays celebrated in clubs.

According to reports, Caron spent $250K, and Kim Kardashian appeared and supposedly Carmen Electra was supposed to appear, but the Post reported that they are friends with Caron from his days back with the Lakers, so Caron didn't necessarily spend money on them.

But, Gilby spent over 1 mil on his own party, and had to HIRE PDiddy to show up, so Gilby's affair was much bigger, by more than 3x.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:01 AM

"If you were a true Wizard fan, and actually followed the team by watching the games, etc... You'd know that Butler hurt his hand last year on a dunk attempt using his RIGHT hand.

Posted by: | March 16, 2008 10:00 AM "

Who gives a crap how you define what a true fan is or isn't. I posed a question and asked for clarification. If you're not going to answer the question, then STFU.

If Abe was a true owner and true to the fans, he wouldn't be selling the fans short by being a tightwad owner. Abe is trying to sell a product. Why should there be customer loyalty if the owner is selling a half-arsed product?

READ AND WEEP:

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On a larger scale, Jordan wants to win now. Like any coach who signed a two-year extension with a team option for the third year last summer, the continuity line gets old.

"But I understand Mr. Pollin's standpoint," Jordan said. "We want to stay within a certain budget for the Washington Wizards. We're not going to be like four or five or six other teams that can do anything it takes to win. Those are decisions we made within the organization. It doesn't bother me. There are times when you say, 'How come we can't get this guy?' But then you say, 'These are the parameters the organization has set.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602210.html

"I asked Arenas last month what he thought the Wizards had to do to appease his wishes. He wouldn't campaign for the Wizards to acquire certain players, but he did say, "If you want a championship, you got to get a championship team."

He added: "I know this might not sound right, but the championship teams treat themselves like champions. You go into Miami's locker room, I'm like, 'Wow, what the hell is this?' Everything from their game-day meals for their players to every state-of-the-art thing you can imagine. As a player, why would you want to leave the locker room? I could sit there all day.

"We've been doing a better job, but it comes down to this: You treat your players like champions, they want to be champions," he added. "All the best teams in the league treat themselves first-class every day. Other players come over and think, 'They got this, they got that. Oh, I want to be here.' "

Whether Arenas was telling Abe Pollin and Ernie Grunfeld to upgrade the Wizards' facilities is up for debate. But he was clearly illustrating how the defending champions take care of their players. How the Wizards interpret Arenas's words gets to the issue of how much leverage stars have in this league."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402488.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:07 AM

"Oh, let's add that the Clippers were playing back to back and we were not!

Yeah, Eddie Jordan for coach of the year!!!

If Rick Adeleman does not win it, they should just get rid of the award altogether.

21 wins in a row, Yao is out, and they are pushing for the number one spot in the WEST!

Now that's impressive coaching!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rob P | March 16, 2008 02:45 AM "

And to add to that, the clips are 21-44, but then again, they play in the west, so that translates to 44-21 in the east.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:09 AM

"There have been so many games the Wizards should've won this year, it is just good to see them steal one from someone else for a change. Here's to Jamison for making up for some missed FTs by hitting those biggies at the end of regulation.
And no one brought up Gilbert yet while praising the Wizards you couldn't help but take a shot at Gilbert. Whatever happened to not wanting to talk about him? None of the posters brought him up?

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 01:52 AM "

It's sad when you have to "steal" one from a 21-44 team at your home court.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:11 AM

"Whatever happened to not wanting to talk about him? None of the posters brought him up?

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 01:52 AM "

You know what George, me keeping my promise on this blog means nothing, and clearly not as much as Gilby keeping his promise to the Les BouleS fans.

"I'm not going to be like KG and AI and do this and that to the franchise.........except when it comes to getting max money where I will leave for less to go to another franchise if I'm not paid in full. I've got to feed my kids and have financial security. 100 mil won't feed them like 110 mil will." - Gilby

Posted by: DC Man99 | March 16, 2008 10:15 AM

"Whatever happened to not wanting to talk about him? None of the posters brought him up?

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 01:52 AM "

You know what George, me keeping my promise on this blog means nothing, and clearly not as much as Gilby keeping his promise to the Les BouleS fans.

"I'm not going to be like KG and AI and do this and that to the franchise.........except when it comes to getting max money where I will leave for less to go to another franchise if I'm not paid in full. I've got to feed my kids and have financial security. 100 mil won't feed them like 110 mil will." - Gilby the goof

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:16 AM

And no one brought up Gilbert yet while praising the Wizards you couldn't help but take a shot at Gilbert. Whatever happened to not wanting to talk about him? None of the posters brought him up?

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 01:52 AM "

It's sad when you have to "steal" one from a 21-44 team at your home court.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 10:11 AM

Even sadder is the fact that we have to try to scroll past all your Gilbert hate - even when NO ONE brings the subject up -

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 10:23 AM

I just wanted to point that out. You have said in the past that you only will take shots at him when other people bring his name up and say reverntial things about him. But quite often, as was the case here, you bash Gilbert without anyone else every bringing him up and for frankly no good reason.

As for your point about stealing one from a bad team. That is true, the Wizards shouldn't have to steal it from the Clippers. But as we have seen, this team goes flat in certain games and the fact that they did here and managed to win, might be a sign of good things.
Given what this team has gone through, anyway the Wizards win a game, I will take it and go on my merry way. This is a scrap for the 5th/6th spots and winning ugly is going to be a key part of it.
If this team were in the running for the division or a top seed in the conference, I would be more upset about how they played last night.

Posted by: George Templeton | March 16, 2008 10:33 AM

"Oh wait, the team came back and won this tight game with team effort and hustle. Didn't require a last second miracle jump shot from a johnny come lately because their toughness, tenacity, and never give up attitude carried them."

Wow, 88 go back and read my post from yesterday that you trashed! Daniels started the comeback wirh 7 straight points in the 4th after not having a field goal the whole game. Songaila was his typical warrior self on the boards and defensively all night. Butler didn't have a great game shooting, not surprising for a second game back after a long layoff, but along with Stevenson, Songaila, and Daniels played monster D in the 4th.

And No Miracle Shot??? What do you call Jamison's leaning three with 5 seconds left? Do you get TV in momma's cellar?
Or going to the line and hitting three straight free throws to send the game into overtime. Three free throws at the game end that I can understand you not watching. But ah, I degress don't want to bring up the Ballyhooed Bet! Sorry, I quess I just did.

Daniels, Butler, and Stevenson the three players that I said changed the makeup of the team keyed this comeback along with Jamison and Songaila. I might add that Young and Mason helped the team hang in the game when the Vets couldn't buy a bucket on offense.

In the Salary cap era sometimes letting a guy walk and using the money to extend another contract works exactly like a trade. The net effect has been Grunfeld traded Kwame Brown, let Hughes, Jeffries and Hayes walk via free agency. In return he brought in Butler, Daniels, Songaila, Stevenson and Mason, in every case a tougher minded more physical player then the guy that was let go.

In addition if Grunfeld would have matched Hughes and Jeffries deals he wouldn't have had money available to sign Blatche, Pecherov, McGuire, and Young. As you've said many times the Wiz would still be playing with a D League bench.

Rook, my preseason prediction for the Wiz was 45-48 games. I was worried about Gil's knee and how quickly the young bench would come along. Considering Arenas's long absence I think the team's done very well. I'm surprised that Boston has stayed as healthy as they have, Orlando has played better then I expected, Chicago has to be the biggest flop in the east.

Sometimes big trade rumors can ruin a team. The Gasol then Kobe flirtations really seemed to get in that team's crawl and they've never snapped out of it. And battling Wallace over headbands has to be the stupidest coaching move in history.

88, I'm just glad Grunfeld made the moves he made and the Wizards are a team we can all love. But anybody that trashes Earl Monroe doesn't have a clue about the history of this team. Wes, Gus Johnson, and The Pearl played in some of the great playoff series in this league against the Knicks in the late 60's early 70's.

All three are part of the NBA's original 50 greatest in the first 50 years. You may not be old enough to remember the years from 68' til 79' but that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Along with Elvin Hayes, another of the 50 greatest, who came in the early 70's and Bobby Dandridge, not sure was Bobby was a 50 greatest too, and many others, those guys made the Bullets into a class franchise.

I'm just glad Grunfeld's around to bring back the class, effort, and hustle us old Bullet fans grew up with.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 11:01 AM

"I'm just glad Grunfeld's around to bring back the class, effort, and hustle us old Bullet fans grew up with."

I don't question the Wiz's heart at all, just thier ability to stay healthy. ;)

They still might wanna consider bringing in some new conditioning people in the offseason.

Go to Phoenix and grab some of thier dudes.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | March 16, 2008 11:05 AM

All three are part of the NBA's original 50 greatest in the first 50 years. You may not be old enough to remember the years from 68' til 79' but that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Along with Elvin Hayes, another of the 50 greatest, who came in the early 70's and Bobby Dandridge, not sure was Bobby was a 50 greatest too, and many others, those guys made the Bullets into a class franchise.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 11:01 AM

Great post, as usual GM.. Another point is that all those greatest 50 players you mentioned were on a team owned by one of the last Millionaire (NOT Billionaire) owners in the League - Abe Polin. A man who built two (2) arenas with his own money.. Who, almost single handedly, revitalized a decrepit eyesore section of the City of Washington. Who has, throughout his ownership of the Wizards team, has spend untold millions of dollars on giving back to the community. An owner that leads by example, and EXPECTS his players, Coaches and Management to do the same.

(Oops, I mentioned Polin, now let's see how long it takes before we see the antiquated quotes from last year from Jordan dredged up by 88)

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 11:55 AM

Any news on HOW Caron hurt his left wrist? Was this the same hand he hurt last season?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 15, 2008 11:37 PM

If you were a true Wizard fan, and actually followed the team by watching the games, etc... You'd know that Butler hurt his hand last year on a dunk attempt using his RIGHT hand.
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Good point, he hurt his hands against the Bucks last year, but wasn't it trying to block a dunk?? Just saying....

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 12:13 PM

I don't care that we had to steal one from a bad west coast team that was playing it's 4th east coast game in 5 days. I just care that we won.

So what's the argument here? Someone said that it's sad that we had to steal one at home from a team that was 21-44, but also said that the 21-44 record in the west translates to a 44-21 record in the east, errr, we have a 33-32 record, so that would make them better, right? I know that the person was being facetious, but why all the negativity and sarcasm? We won, it's a long season followed by the post-season, which we are fighting for the 5th seed. I'm not satisfied with just a playoff berth, but we need to get to the playoffs first before advancing to the 2nd round, Conf Finals, etc. Do we look like a Championship team this year, no, but I think we all said the same thing about Cleveland last year. I think we can make a serious run this year if our guys are healthy. Again, I won't be content, but then EG can fill in the pieces to complete the run over the off-season.

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 12:32 PM

"Do you get TV in momma's cellar?"

Funny stuff!

Posted by: AntiDCMan | March 16, 2008 12:33 PM

The Hawks are gonna run who? out of what building PLEASE!!! they are barely hanging on for a playoff spot I live here in the ATL and when the Hawks and local media are not trying to fire their incompetent coach Mike Woodson, now some of you NBA guru's think EJ ain't qualified you should get a load of this guy.Great game by AJ tonite the WIZ pulled it out in ot are the Clippers sorry or what hope Haywood and Butler are ok and ready for the Hawks.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 15, 2008 11:53 PM

My point DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM is that that although the Wizards won the game, they should not have allowed a miserable Clippers team to keep it that close.

I'm a true Wiz fan, and happy that Jamison stepped up (like he has all year), and made some incredible clutch shots to get the team to overtime, and then to get the lead in overtime. That, along with Daniel's clutch, late 4th quarter and OT shooting and Caron's defense were key in the win - and I'm lovin' it.

On the other hand, Atlanta has a bunch of young, athletic guys. They may be poorly coached. They may not know how to play together. They may not have very good chemistry. But they ARE playing for a playoff spot (unlike the Clippers) - and they can fast break. For this one game, if Atlanta plays like they did against the Clippers, and if the Wizards play like THEY did against the Clippers - the wiz will lose.

I'm just hoping to see the same kind of focus from the 4th quarter of last nights game transferred to the first part of the Atlanta game.

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 12:37 PM

Good point, he hurt his hands against the Bucks last year, but wasn't it trying to block a dunk?? Just saying....

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 12:13 PM

Absolutely right, CN

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 12:38 PM

why all the negativity and sarcasm?

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 12:32 PM

Stick around CN, and you'll find out that 88'er is a Gilbert Arenas hater - and it's my suspicion that he's not really a Wizards fan, but a fan from another city trolling this blog to post his rants and irrational "vitriol" (cool word huh? got it from a previous poster)... He's probably actually a disgruntled Miami Heat fan, living in his mom's basement somewhere in Alabama....

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 12:44 PM

Exactly CN, we're watching Grunfeld build a winner from the shambles that MJ drove away from.

This isn't a Championship quality team yet. But having guys like Daniels, Songaila, Butler, Jamison,Stevenson, and Areans have changed the mindset of this franchise.

There aren't alot of guys in that lockerromm content to lose anymore. If I remember correctly only Haywood and Thomas are left from the pre-Grunfeld era.

These guys have the sweep by Cleveland last year in their crawl, sometimes that's a good thing. Most great teams have dealt with a bitter setback on the way to the top.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 12:57 PM

From Wikipedia:
"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response. or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."

Describes a certain WaPo poster to a tee, doesn't it..?

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 1:01 PM

I've been around long enough to know who the troll (love that term, great pull!)

How about we refer to him as "The Troll" or "Trolly" from hereon out?

I think EG is doing a great job given his situation (he inherited Crackhouse, Laettner, and his best player he got was Hughes). We're headed in the right direction, but I would have to imagine that Abe's gotta go over the luxury tax to build a championship team. Maybe he's not averse to it, but feels that it's not worth going over the threshold to sign a guy like Smush Parker, JCN, Jeffries, etc.

I really hope that's the case because if Gil & AJ are re-signed, it will probably be for 5 to 6 years each, which would affect the re-signing of Caron, when his contract is up in 3 or so years.

I heart Trolly....

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 1:09 PM

Correction Rook, They don't have basements in Alabama. Though with some of the past attitudes expressed wouldn't be surprised if he owns a white suit.

To the 88 defenders, I wouldn't come on here defending a poster that just called another poster "a lady of the night" to put it nicely. No poster should have to put up with that crap.

CN, the Ballyhooed bet explains all. Coming on here and posting about losing 7K on a playoff game against Cleveland because Gil missed those three free throws and then feeling like he's entitled to hate Arenas puts all of his posts in perfect context.

It also explains why he trys so hard to run posters like me off the site because we were around to read it. I chide 88 when he does a complete reversal like he did from yesterday to today. Read yeasterday's post and today's and explain how there's a wit of sense there.

It would help if he ever actually watched the games he gives commentary on once in awhile.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 1:24 PM

Though with some of the past attitudes expressed wouldn't be surprised if he owns a white suit.
Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 01:24 PM

I assume you mean a hooded white robe?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 16, 2008 2:27 PM

We got so LUCKY last night! I went from talking trash about AJ and AD (when they missed free throws during regulation) to getting out the VISA to purchase some authentics off NBA.com (when AJ made a prayer of a three and knocked down the three free throws to send it to OT; when AD basically took over the end of the 4th and OT). I just remember thinking, "We can't lose this game." In years past the WIZ would have collapsed, but last night they showed toughness and resilience. I LIKE this team and I think we will be dangerous come playoff time because everyone seems to have a well-defined role and, most importantly, everyone seems to accept his role.

The pink elephant in the room is what will happen to Nick Young's minutes when Gil comes back? It's no secret that but for Gil's injury, NY would not be getting as much PT. I'm liking Nick Young's swag right now and it will be interesting to see what happens if Gil struggles to regain his pre-injury form...

Posted by: Essex | March 16, 2008 3:41 PM

"Correction Rook, They don't have basements in Alabama. Though with some of the past attitudes expressed wouldn't be surprised if he owns a white suit.

To the 88 defenders, I wouldn't come on here defending a poster that just called another poster "a lady of the night" to put it nicely. No poster should have to put up with that crap.

CN, the Ballyhooed bet explains all. Coming on here and posting about losing 7K on a playoff game against Cleveland because Gil missed those three free throws and then feeling like he's entitled to hate Arenas puts all of his posts in perfect context.

It also explains why he trys so hard to run posters like me off the site because we were around to read it. I chide 88 when he does a complete reversal like he did from yesterday to today. Read yeasterday's post and today's and explain how there's a wit of sense there.

It would help if he ever actually watched the games he gives commentary on once in awhile.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 01:24 PM "

This dude GM is a total idiot. Nothing more needs to be said.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:12 PM

"Describes a certain WaPo poster to a tee, doesn't it..?

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 01:01 PM "

You shouldn't be so hard on yourself rook.

BTW, strange to see a post from you without you attempting to input some irrelevant data into your weak arguments.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:14 PM

"Good point, he hurt his hands against the Bucks last year, but wasn't it trying to block a dunk?? Just saying....

Posted by: CN | March 16, 2008 12:13 PM

Absolutely right, CN

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 12:38 PM "

The attempt to block a dunk was by slapping his hand against the backboard. Backboards don't give unless it's Shaq or if GM's wife is lying on top of one with Lefty on top.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:16 PM

"(Oops, I mentioned Polin, now let's see how long it takes before we see the antiquated quotes from last year from Jordan dredged up by 88)

Posted by: Rook | March 16, 2008 11:55 AM "

You wish these quotes were antiquated because they are still relevant.


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On a larger scale, Jordan wants to win now. Like any coach who signed a two-year extension with a team option for the third year last summer, the continuity line gets old.

"But I understand Mr. Pollin's standpoint," Jordan said. "We want to stay within a certain budget for the Washington Wizards. We're not going to be like four or five or six other teams that can do anything it takes to win. Those are decisions we made within the organization. It doesn't bother me. There are times when you say, 'How come we can't get this guy?' But then you say, 'These are the parameters the organization has set.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602210.html

"I asked Arenas last month what he thought the Wizards had to do to appease his wishes. He wouldn't campaign for the Wizards to acquire certain players, but he did say, "If you want a championship, you got to get a championship team."

He added: "I know this might not sound right, but the championship teams treat themselves like champions. You go into Miami's locker room, I'm like, 'Wow, what the hell is this?' Everything from their game-day meals for their players to every state-of-the-art thing you can imagine. As a player, why would you want to leave the locker room? I could sit there all day.

"We've been doing a better job, but it comes down to this: You treat your players like champions, they want to be champions," he added. "All the best teams in the league treat themselves first-class every day. Other players come over and think, 'They got this, they got that. Oh, I want to be here.' "

Whether Arenas was telling Abe Pollin and Ernie Grunfeld to upgrade the Wizards' facilities is up for debate. But he was clearly illustrating how the defending champions take care of their players. How the Wizards interpret Arenas's words gets to the issue of how much leverage stars have in this league."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402488.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:17 PM

"88, I'm just glad Grunfeld made the moves he made and the Wizards are a team we can all love. But anybody that trashes Earl Monroe doesn't have a clue about the history of this team. Wes, Gus Johnson, and The Pearl played in some of the great playoff series in this league against the Knicks in the late 60's early 70's.

All three are part of the NBA's original 50 greatest in the first 50 years. You may not be old enough to remember the years from 68' til 79' but that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Along with Elvin Hayes, another of the 50 greatest, who came in the early 70's and Bobby Dandridge, not sure was Bobby was a 50 greatest too, and many others, those guys made the Bullets into a class franchise.

I'm just glad Grunfeld's around to bring back the class, effort, and hustle us old Bullet fans grew up with.

Posted by: GM | March 16, 2008 11:01 AM "

Good for you and good for Earl Monroe to have won a championship with New York. Since you're heaping so much praise on Earl Monroe who used to be a boulez but won a championship with NY, why don't you go ahead and heap some praise on Desmond Howard who left here and became the MVP of Superbowl 31. Dummy.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:21 PM

"Even sadder is the fact that we have to try to scroll past all your Gilbert hate - even when NO ONE brings the subject up -

Posted by: | March 16, 2008 10:23 AM "

That's your prerogative. Look in the mirror and blame that person, dummy Lisa.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 16, 2008 4:22 PM

Scroll past the troll, people. Don't engage.

Good point, Essex, about the guard situation. I think Roger's going to be the one who sees the biggest loss of minutes when Gilbert's back. Eddie is clearly fond of Nick and sees his potential to be a major contributor this post-season if he gets enough playing time to adapt his game to the NBA tempo.

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