LeBron Responds To DeShawn

If you weren't rooting for another Washington-Cleveland first round playoff series, you should now.

Not only because it looks more and more like it's going to happen - Toronto lost again last night without Chris Bosh and is a half-game ahead of the Wizards for the fifth seed in the Eastern Conference. But also because you don't want last Thursday to be the last time DeShawn Stevenson and LeBron James play again this season, do you?

Stevenson contained James in the fourth quarter with some tenacious, physical defense, took a charge in the final minute and forced him into a bad three-point attempt at the end of regulation. Afterward, Stevenson decided to become the first player to publicly question the hype surrounding James as I walked with him out of the locker room.

The could-be King finally responded to Stevenson calling him "overrated" last night, after the Cavaliers defeated the Bobcats. James was asked if he had anything to say about Stevenson and he laughed.

"With DeShawn Stevenson, it is kind of funny," James told reporters in Cleveland. "It's almost like Jay-Z saying something bad about Soulja Boy. There's no comparison. Enough said."


To Wizards-Cavs!

Oh, man. Washington-Cleveland Part III. LeBron "Jay-Z" James vs. DeShawn "Soulja Boy" Stevenson Part I. Let's get it on!

By Michael Lee |  March 17, 2008; 9:18 AM ET
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I'm confused. Did he mean, "It's almost like Soulja Boy saying something bad about Jay-Z?"

That's the a-is-to-b as c-is-to-d type of question you get on the SATs.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 9:31 AM

Finally we have a war of words to add extra spice to this thing. Now if the Wiz kids can break through and beat the LeBrons in the playoffs, we will have a real rivalry.

Posted by: low | March 17, 2008 9:32 AM

lebron just called soulja boy better than jay-z..... ;-)

(okay, i know he meant that jay-z is better than soulja boy, but he should have flipped his quote... since it was deshawn who said something about lebron)

Posted by: hmmmmm | March 17, 2008 9:34 AM

Ton of props goes out to DS for containing James last week. 26 points for James, bleh, DS was fighting through picks chasing James around and even made some baskets, forcing Bron-Bron to use some energy on D.

So Gil's MRI is today? Awesome, no point in waiting until tomorrow (as originally reported by CSN and the Post). Can't wait for the update...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 9:36 AM

If the question was "Do you have anything to say in response to Stevenson's comment?", then James' words were appropriate.

Posted by: When you assume... | March 17, 2008 9:38 AM

I would REALLY love to see someone completely shut down BronBron. Yes, boy got game but man he has an ego out of this world. And I thought Kobe had an ego. You can call him King James,your highness, etc. But don't ever confuse him with being humble. That word doesn't exist in his vocabulary.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 9:41 AM

From last thread:
"When Gilbert asks "What GM is gonna pay the max to a player coming off 3 knee surgeries" he should be asking "What GM is gonna pay the max to a player coming off 2 knee surgeries that hasn't proven that he's healthy again". He NEEDS to prove that he deserves the max at this point. Personally, I think that he'd be better off not opting out this summer and playing under his original contract and taking 12.8 mill next year(unless he comes back soon and is his old self this year). After he proves that he's back and there are no doubts, he can definitely get the max in 2009."
Posted by: mark | March 17, 2008 09:28 AM
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Excellent points, Mark. I don't see too many teams (actually none can fiscally do it, maybe Philly?) stumbling over each other to sign Gil if he sits out this whole season. Therefore, if he does sit out, it's best for him to make his $13M next year, then when/if he proves he's back to his old self, he'll get max money easy.

That 2nd injury was devasting in every facet, b/c had he followed the doctors' original advice, he would have now been getting back into the zone, since they say it takes a full year to really recover from knee surgery (several months of rehab, and several months of balling to get everything back to order)...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 9:42 AM

War of words between Lebron and DS means I should be stocking up on bullet proof vests at my hardware store for the playoffs, with the words "SWADAGGERRRRR!!!!" across the chest.

Fans should be aware of possible drive by shootings at VC. AB won't need one b/c he's bullet proof.

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 9:49 AM

I love this rivalry and if the Wizards make the playoffs (must say that to appease the Karam gods) a 4-5 matchup against Bron Bron would be awesome (besides Dwight Howards scares the heck out of me). The missed free throw in 2006, the fateful way Washington and Cleveland always get paired in the first round, it'd be a great series. I think the past few months without Butler and Arenas have helped the younger players grow immensly. A trial by fire and luckily we haven't been burnt too bad. Young, Mason, DeShawn all playing a little better and picking up unlikely roles. Hopefully this will provide a little deeper bench in the playoffs.

Posted by: Matt | March 17, 2008 9:49 AM

Lebron did not flip his words. Read carefully, as he was posed the question and responded properly, as he implied that if he commented on DS's words, it would be like Jay Z commenting on Soulja Boy.

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"James was asked if he had anything to say about Stevenson and he laughed.

"With DeShawn Stevenson, it is kind of funny," James told reporters in Cleveland. "It's almost like Jay-Z saying something bad about Soulja Boy. There's no comparison. Enough said.""

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In response, DS said "Hey Lebron, I'm a tru warrior..a man...just go ask Eddie Jordan, and check your dictionary.

Now it's time for DS to put up or shut up, and it's time for his teammates to rally around and back him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 9:53 AM

"I would REALLY love to see someone completely shut down BronBron. Yes, boy got game but man he has an ego out of this world. And I thought Kobe had an ego. You can call him King James,your highness, etc. But don't ever confuse him with being humble. That word doesn't exist in his vocabulary.

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 09:41 AM "

There's no humbleness with most NBA players.

* Throwing a million dollar coming out party for yourself and having to HIRE PDiddy b/c you don't know him.

* Throwing hissy fits when you don't make the USA Basketball Team.

* Saying the team is not better without him until they play a full season even though the team was playing beyond expectations and beating top teams like NO and Dallas.

* Claim that he came back after the USA Basketball Team snub to "take over the league" even though his team was one and done in the playoffs after their downward spiral before he got injured.

* Saying an extra 100 mil can't feed his family or offer them financial security.

WHATEVAH!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 10:01 AM

Tell em why you mad son!

That Lebron James, he aight he aight, but Stevenson more John Blaze son.

He shot a Simp over the summer and aint seen no jail time son... Lebron better recognize b.

Forget Juan Carlos Navarro!!!
Forget Lebron James!!!
Forget that Simp!!!
Forget the HATAZ!!!
I CAN'T FEEL MY FACE!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | March 17, 2008 10:11 AM

Knew you would bring Gil into this thread. Can't help yourself can you? Must really have a Gil Jones. Love it!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 10:12 AM

ARENAS FOR BRAND AND 2 RD PICK ERNIE...C'mon Ernie!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | March 17, 2008 10:13 AM

NAWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Give Gil his money he may not help this season he may be good in the playoffs but we definitely have a superstar for years to come. He's only 26 that knee would be good next year.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | March 17, 2008 10:15 AM

If people are still talking about your party a year after you had it, it was one hell of a party.

Posted by: Dude | March 17, 2008 10:19 AM

"SWADAGGERRRRR!!!!" -GM

I like that!!! Thats what this team has and with the addition of Arenas our "SWADAGGERRRRR!!!!" meter will be out the roof like the Georgia Dome!!!

LOVE U ATL...Not tonight tho!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | March 17, 2008 10:19 AM

Props to DeShawn for finally standing up to LeBron who's allowed to take 4 steps on every drive, commits uncalled offensive fouls (until the refs showed the guts to call one on Thursday), and can't play defense. His all-around game doesn't compare to Kobe's and his supporting cast looked weak on Thursday night. With a healthy GA and CB in the lineup, we should be able to beat the Cavs in a playoff series...assuming the refs don't give The King too much help!!!!

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 17, 2008 10:31 AM

I hope Cleveland vs. Les BouleS end up being a Detroit vs. Indiana Pt.2.

I'll bet David Stern is watching this closely and will put the kibosh on all this drama. There is no way that he's going to sacrifice his cash cow for someone by the name of DeShawn "Soulja Boy" Stevenson.

Expect closer calls favoring Lebron real soon.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 10:35 AM

I heard recently during a Cavs game that LeBron was 260 lbs. Do we really want to make a guy who's bigger and stronger than every guy on our team except our center and gets every call mad at us and motivate him even more? I say yes. His ego is out of control. I think it's time for a couple of really hard fouls to put things in perspective for him. Good for you, DS. I just wish it had been a player with an all star game or two under his belt who'd said it. Since Ds has had a moderate career, ppl around the country are probably laughing at him. I applaud him for saying it even though statistically, LeBron is one of the best if not the best in the game.

Posted by: mark | March 17, 2008 10:40 AM

The fact is, he is not holding a $100 million ticket any longer. That ticket expired when he hurt his knee the second time. ...he should be asking "What GM is gonna pay the max to a player coming off 2 knee surgeries

Posted by: mark | March 17, 2008 09:28 AM

Sorry Mark, but I gotta disagree. I think that Arenas could get a max contract from someone, if he sat out the rest of the year.

Remember there are a lot of really stupid (and desperate) GM's out there. And EVERY team has at least one player that they signed that was a mistake, so it's not like this is straight up 2+2=4... There are teams out there that would be willing to take that risk...

After all:
Larry Hughes, $12,000,084
Wally Szczerbiak $12,275,000
Ben Wallace $15,500,000
Kwame Brown $9,379,279
Bobby Simmons $9,280,000
Tyson Chandler $10,500,000
Stephon Marbury $19,012,500
Raef LaFrentz $12,440,787
Brian Cardinal $5,850,000

Some GM, at some point decided to pay those guys big bucks.... based on potential future performance...

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:03 AM

Gotta agree with Wizfan89. You know what I'd love to see, I know this won't happen but I'd love for one of the Wiz or EJ to call out the refs bias towards LeBron. Didn't Mark Cuban do something similar a few years ago and it actually brought attention to the Mavs playoff series? This of course is if we do make it to #5 and play the Cavs in rd. 1.

We've got to bring 110% tonight and play up to the Hawks, not down. Hopefully BTH will be back and healthy, we really missed him Saturday night.

I'm hoping GA can make it back this week!

Posted by: AntiDCMan | March 17, 2008 11:07 AM

Tyson Chandler $10,500,000
Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:03 AM
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Actually, I think he's worth it, 7'1" who can rebound and play def like a beast? Doesn't matter if his offensive game is OK, he's Ben Wallace (who got $15M+/yr for just being a def player who absolutely no offense) but taller, younger and more offense.

Gil's doing the sane thing, if he can get $4M/year more than he's getting now, why not? He never made a promise to us (team & fans) about not getting max money, as someone might have suggested. He's always recanted/contradicted himself too, so why would a change in his stance be any different?

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:10 AM

ARENAS FOR BRAND AND 2 RD PICK ERNIE...C'mon Ernie!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | March 17, 2008 10:13 AM

Then our front line would be:
At Center, Brendan Haywood
At Forward, Caron Butler
At Forward, Antawn Jamison
At Forward, Elton Brand
At Guard, 32 year old Antonio Danlels?

So, tell me Wayne, why would the Wizards want another Forward, when that is the position on this team that is WAY overstocked? (Blatche, Jamison, Butler, Pecherov, McGuire, Songaila)...

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 11:12 AM

I think what he meant to say was that if he was to say anything bad in response, it would be like Jay Z saying something to Soldier Boy (correctly spelled). He is saying that he is on a whole nova level than Deshawn. I think...

Posted by: BB | March 17, 2008 11:14 AM

I didn't make the post at 9:49, but thanks for the post to who ever put it in for me, with a business to run it's hard to be on here all the time. You know, I really do think the SWADDAGGER thing is catching on!

If Gil could get back after that win the other night these guys could catch fire. This could be a fun spring in Washington!

I know I can't stop laughing this morning!

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:17 AM

Tyson Chandler $10,500,000
Actually, I think he's worth it, 7'1" who can rebound and play def like a beast?

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:10 AM

Yeah, on the other hand, Brendan Haywood is making $5 Mil... and Dwight Howard $6 Mil... So is Tyson Chandler really worth twice as much as Haywood?

Point is, Chandler is overpaid, just like lots of other players in the NBA. Overpaid compared to their production... Overpaid based solely on their POTENTIAL.

Someone WILL pay Arenas max money as long as he doesn't hurt the knee a THIRD TIME - Just don't bet $7,000 on it...

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:21 AM

By the way, anyone notice that Bobby Simmons is making $9 Mil?

The same Bobby Simmons that played for the Wiz a few years ago....

Hey, good for him. He always seemed to be a nice guy. Glad he got paid.

Anyone know how he was able to score that big contract? What's the story...??

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:23 AM

I know I can't stop laughing this morning!

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:17 AM

I know how you feel GM. Beautiful spring day. Birds chirping. Wizards getting healthy, poised to make a run. $7,000 in my bank account...

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:27 AM

By the way, anyone notice that Bobby Simmons is making $9 Mil?

The same Bobby Simmons that played for the Wiz a few years ago....

Hey, good for him. He always seemed to be a nice guy. Glad he got paid.

Anyone know how he was able to score that big contract? What's the story...??
Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:23 AM
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After getting some playing time with Michael Jordan & Crackhouse, Simmons was able to come off the bench hear and show that he was a capable scorer despite having to share the ball here with Tyronn Lue, Tyrone Nesby (gotta hear Dave Johnson call his name, hilarious), Courtney Alexander, and Christian Laetner.

Simmons then signed on with the Clippers and posted about 15 points a game. He then signed a lucrative FA contract with the Bucks, the same off-season that Etan Thomas & Brian Skinner got theirs. It was a weird off-season and those guys cashed in on it. I think it was the same off-season we signed Gil too, but I'm not sure...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:31 AM

You think David Stern isn't going to love a knockdown drag out series like the old Celtics/Lakers or Celtics/Pistons or Pistons/Bulls?

All the power seems to be out west, the NBA needs something for the fans to tune into early in the evening. The Celtics and the Pistons will probably cruise in their first round series so a real good 4 vs. 5 series between Cleveland and the Wizards could be just what Stern would be looking for.

A seven game series in the first round in the east with the star power a Wizards/Cleveland series would offer would have to be fun.

Did the league protect Jordan from the old Pistons? Stern knows how and when to hype matchups, even if LaBron goes out they'd have the Celtics and Pistons. Besides, Gilbert Arenas fresh off of TWO knee surguries with the Swaddagger!!!! It will sell...

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:34 AM

Brian Cardinal was another big man that got paid that year (with B Simmons, Etan, B Skinner), and it was NOT the same year we signed Gil, my bad...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:35 AM

"I know I can't stop laughing this morning!

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:17 AM "

It is truly a great day! I can't wait until Les BouleS make it into the playoffs. I'm excited as well!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 11:35 AM

"Gotta agree with Wizfan89. You know what I'd love to see, I know this won't happen but I'd love for one of the Wiz or EJ to call out the refs bias towards LeBron. Didn't Mark Cuban do something similar a few years ago and it actually brought attention to the Mavs playoff series? This of course is if we do make it to #5 and play the Cavs in rd. 1.

We've got to bring 110% tonight and play up to the Hawks, not down. Hopefully BTH will be back and healthy, we really missed him Saturday night.

I'm hoping GA can make it back this week!

Posted by: AntiDCMan | March 17, 2008 11:07 AM "

Keep dreaming. Do you think Abe is willing to pay the fines that Cuban paid for speaking up? Do you think Abe is willing to hire a statistician to do the analysis? Rook could do the stats, but then it'd be all wrong.

Abe would have to hold more singles nights and sell $20 beers and $15 dogs to pay for the fines, and then he'd charge DC another $50 mil for security and the air rights above VC.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 11:39 AM

You think David Stern isn't going to love a knockdown drag out series like the old Celtics/Lakers or Celtics/Pistons or Pistons/Bulls?

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:34 AM

I think he'll like it fine, as long as LeKing and the Cavs are the ones moving on.

Stern is all about ratings.... Washington playing in the second round, or in the Conference Finals would be bad... in his eyes. Let's face it, the Wizards are not nearly the draw Nationally that LeTravel is.

A BronBron vs. Kobe matchup in the Finals would make Stern happy.

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:41 AM

Yeah, on the other hand, Brendan Haywood is making $5 Mil... and Dwight Howard $6 Mil... So is Tyson Chandler really worth twice as much as Haywood?

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:21 AM
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C'mon now, Howard's playing out his rookie contract, so we can't bring him into the conversation. It's like comparing AD (about $6-6.5M) to Deron Williams (about $4M?? in the 3rd of a 4 year rookie deal).

Good comparison to BTH though, even though Chandler's averaging more in most categories:

BTH: 10.6 ppg/ 7.4 rpg/ 1.7 bpg
Chandler: 13.5 ppg/ 12.3 rpg/ 1.1 bpg

I'm perfectly fine with BTH, he's a 7 year Wiz...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:41 AM

BTH: 10.6 ppg/ 7.4 rpg/ 1.7 bpg
Chandler: 13.5 ppg/ 12.3 rpg/ 1.1 bpg

I'm perfectly fine with BTH, he's a 7 year Wiz...


Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 11:41 AM



Yeah, I'm happy with Haywood's production this year too.... Especially since he's putting up those numbers averaging 28 mpg, vs 35mpg for Chandler..

and the fact that Chandler has a problem with foul trouble (4 DQ's and lots of inneffective games because of foul trouble).

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 11:52 AM

CN, I think you under estimate how popular Gil was before this lost season. He hits a couple of game winners he's back on the radar.

The league hipes the series they get, No one wants to look like they're over protecting LaBron. If called on it a little the league's ref's like to even things up.

The NBA took some bruising about over protecting LaBron the last two years. It'll be interesting to see how the playoffs are called this year. I really can't see the league punching his ticket to the finals if it's the Celtics in his way.

Glad to see 88 is happy today. Sometimes he can be a real pussycat...

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:59 AM

Sometimes he can be a real pussycat...

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:59 AM

did I see a little red dot flashing around?

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 12:05 PM

There is nothing wrong with Soulja Boy..

He may not be a rap king yet, but he reps the ATL, makes good bread for his age
& has all of you NBA clowns doing his D***
dance!!!

Posted by: just saying | March 17, 2008 12:13 PM

FYI,

Since LeBron brought it up
- some of you NBA ballers are too old & too big to be doing that Soulja Boy dance anyway...

Posted by: personal opinion | March 17, 2008 12:18 PM

I really can't see the league punching his ticket to the finals if it's the Celtics in his way.

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:59 AM

Yeah GM, the marquee match up this year would be Boston vs LA. Two big markets. Stern would love it. It would be good for the NBA as a whole. (as opposed to, say, a Washington vs Utah Final)

Good story lines:
Beantown's return to glory.
Danny Ainge's deals to get Allen and Garnett.
Allen, Pierce & Garnett's long and arduous road to a Championship Final.
The Laker turn around this year.
Kobe, more Kobe, even more Kobe, everything Kobe, and Kobe's shoes.
The big trade for Gasol and it's impact.
Kobe's courageous effort with a pinky injury


Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 12:21 PM

"Did the league protect Jordan from the old Pistons? "

Not in the beginning. But once Jordan's media star had fully ascended and Stern began to see the Bad Boys rep as a negative for the league, they did.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 12:21 PM

It's a tough spot for both the Wiz and Arenas to be in -- but probably tougher for the Wiz. What happens if their initial offer is less than the max? With these guys, it's all about "respect."

Larry Hughes, for example, thought the Wiz "disrespected" him by not making him a bigger offer initially. He was so incensed at the perceived slight that he signed with Cleveland (that worked out well, huh?).

I have a feeling Gil will be the same way. He'll probably re-sign quickly if he gets a max offer out of the gate; if Ernie offers him anything less, he'll probably look around and could well sign somewhere else after looking appropriately offended.

Should they give him a max offer if he doesn't come back this year? That's a very good question, but ultimately, I think they must if they want to retain him. They'll be taking an awfully big chance on a player with a significant recent injury history, but Gil is such a special talent that they almost have to, IMO.


Posted by: Keithinator | March 17, 2008 12:29 PM

Even if Gilbert does decide to leave, it could still work out in the Wizards favor because the only way anyone else will be able to offer him a max deal is a S&T, which means the Wiz could get a nice return on any deal.

My preference is that Grunfeld doesn't rush to the checkbook as soon as the FA period starts. This team has a lot of potential, but 4 years running of being undermined by injuries could be a red flag that there's something about this mix that just isn't working. I would hope Grunfeld examines all the options and possibilities before deciding that status quo is the way to go.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 12:36 PM

Rook, I continually underestimate the stupidity of some GM's. You're probably correct in that someone would just look at a medical report and his age and offer him a lot of money. Fortunately, not a lot of teams out there have a ton of money to throw around these days.

Posted by: mark | March 17, 2008 12:49 PM

If Gil frees up Wiz cap money by leaving, EG can re-sign Antawn plus go for hot FA's. Gil is no sure longterm big-ticket thing with his history of injury and recovery. Maxing him this year doesn't look like smart from here.

Posted by: joe c | March 17, 2008 12:53 PM

"If Gil frees up Wiz cap money by leaving, EG can re-sign Antawn plus go for hot FA's."

Not really. To start with, there really aren't a lot of "hot" unrestricted FAs on this summer's market (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents). Second, if Arenas leaves and the Wizards don't get anything in return via trade, they'd still be over the cap (assuming they re-sign Jamison to a market value deal). In which case, the only FA money they'd have to spend would be the MLE.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:02 PM

"If Gil frees up Wiz cap money by leaving, EG can re-sign Antawn plus go for hot FA's."

Not really. To start with, there really aren't a lot of "hot" unrestricted FAs on this summer's market
( http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents ). Second, if Arenas leaves and the Wizards don't get anything in return via trade, they'd still be over the cap (assuming they re-sign Jamison to a market value deal). In which case, the only FA money they'd have to spend would be the MLE.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:03 PM

Keithinator, not only is he a special basketball talent, he also puts people in the seats and has certainly gained a lot of attention leaguewide - apparently even the fools that hate him can't stop thinking about Gil and visiting a certain blog.

Rook, bet ya $7,000 Trolly can't help it and offs himself once EG does give Gil the max. Now wouldn't that be priceless?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:05 PM

"Even if Gilbert does decide to leave, it could still work out in the Wizards favor because the only way anyone else will be able to offer him a max deal is a S&T, which means the Wiz could get a nice return on any deal.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 12:36 PM "

That's assuming that Gilby will play nice and not be so insulted by not getting max money here, that he'll go and sign with another team for 5 years, and make it up easily in endorsements from a bigger market like LA, NY, Philly, or Miami. Sure, only a small # of teams can handle Gilby's pay, but that's what their GM's are for, to move players, so don't just look at how much cap space they have now.

Then, Les BouleS will have nothing to show for Gilby's exit, just like when Larry, Jarvis, and Jared left...wasted FA/draft picks with no return compensation. Good teams build by drafting smartly and getting and keeping their FA's. Look at the Spurs, Phoenix, and Detroit.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:06 PM

"Keithinator, not only is he a special basketball talent, he also puts people in the seats and has certainly gained a lot of attention leaguewide - apparently even the fools that hate him can't stop thinking about Gil and visiting a certain blog.

Rook, bet ya $7,000 Trolly can't help it and offs himself once EG does give Gil the max. Now wouldn't that be priceless?

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:05 PM "

I guess being a "special talent" and putting people in their seats is good enough for you, whether there are contenders or pretenders in the playoffs or not. You and Abe share the same viewpoint. Sad.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM

or $7K?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:09 PM

if Arenas leaves and the Wizards don't get anything in return via trade, they'd still be over the cap (assuming they re-sign Jamison to a market value deal). In which case, the only FA money they'd have to spend would be the MLE.


Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:03 PM
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Excellent point that many ppl here have overlooked, including myself. Being over the salary cap and over the luxury tax capare two separate things. We can only surpass the salary cap by using an exception (Mid-level or the bi-annual Vet minimum a la calvin boothe) or re-signing our own player.

Don't know how our salary situation looks for next year compared to the projected cap, but i don't think we would have more than $6-8 million to spend on other FA if Gil walks...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 1:10 PM

"Larry Hughes, for example, thought the Wiz "disrespected" him by not making him a bigger offer initially. He was so incensed at the perceived slight that he signed with Cleveland (that worked out well, huh?).

I have a feeling Gil will be the same way. He'll probably re-sign quickly if he gets a max offer out of the gate; if Ernie offers him anything less, he'll probably look around and could well sign somewhere else after looking appropriately offended.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 17, 2008 12:29 PM "

What world are you from?

EG lied to LH, and then LH walked, with EG trailing behind him asking for a mulligan.

It worked out well for Larry b/c not only does he have 10-15 mil more, he's now in Chicago, which is a better basketball town than this one.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:10 PM

"Glad to see 88 is happy today. Sometimes he can be a real pussycat...

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 11:59 AM "

GM's always a pussycat, until you start bringing up certain subjects. Calm down and let one of those rakes to scratch your tummy with.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:12 PM

"Sure, only a small # of teams can handle Gilby's pay, but that's what their GM's are for, to move players, so don't just look at how much cap space they have now."

That's the only thing that merits looking at, because the only way to clear cap space for FA money is to move players without taking anything back in return. That's why teams trade players with longer deals for guys with expiring contracts, in order to create future cap space by renouncing FAs.

But the trading deadline has passed and contracts that expire this summer obviously can't be traded this summer. So there's no way anyone is going to be able to clear significantly more cap space beyond what they've already got coming to them in expiring contracts already on the books. And based on that, there's no team out there in position to sign Gilbert to a max deal outright.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:12 PM

"lied"? nice twist of the FACTS Trolly!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:13 PM

Only problem is joe c, if Gil signs some where else not all of that money freed up would be available. In that case the best thing for Gil and the Wizards would be a sign and trade arrangement.

Kalorama, one factor in the Wizards health, or lack of it could be the heavy minutes Jordan has had to play the core guys. In the past the D League bench didn't allow him to do anything else. This year the bench has been very inexperienced and injuries have piled up that have kept the core playing heavy minutes.

Next year no matter who the starters are, unless Ernie makes a trade or trades, the bench should be much deeper, more experienced, and talented then anything Eddie's had to work with. It will be interesting then to see if Eddie still rides his starters so hard or if he'll learn to pace them.

If Eddie can't break his ride the core 40+ minutes addiction, the Wiz will never be healthy no matter who the starters are. 82 games is a marathon not a sprint.

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 1:14 PM

Yeah he lied, you troll! Les BouleS have a history of lying. Go ask LH, Rexy, Juwan, MJ, etc.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:15 PM

Calm down and let one of those rakes to scratch your tummy with.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:12 PM

wtf? Does Trolly ever make sense or is this normal for him?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:17 PM

"Only problem is joe c, if Gil signs some where else not all of that money freed up would be available. In that case the best thing for Gil and the Wizards would be a sign and trade arrangement.

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 01:14 PM "

I guess you missed the Gilby quote where he said he would take less to go somewhere else if he doesn't get max from Les BouleS. Of course, Gilby is infamous for changing his story. Great way for him to show his commitment to the team and the city.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:17 PM

"wtf? Does Trolly ever make sense or is this normal for him?

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:17 PM "

I guess anonymous Trolly has a tough time with reading comprehension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:18 PM

"And based on that, there's no team out there in position to sign Gilbert to a max deal outright.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:12 PM "

Gilby said he will leave for less than max. Take it for what it's worth, as he could be going to a bigger market with more national coverage than Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:19 PM

I hope if Gilby gets cleared by the Les BouleS doctors today, that he plays tonight, not wednesday. It'll be interesting to see what he can do.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:21 PM

I thought this article was about Deshawn and Bron Bron? How in the hell did it once again go back to Gilbert? Does he stay, do you trade him, does he get the max contract? Good grief, I am like the other anon posters, it does feel like the movie Ground Hog day. Every day it is the same thing,same person, same topic. Over and over again. I love Ivans posts and some of the comments but this has to be the worst blog response I have ever read. Quite one dimensional actually.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:22 PM

"Gilby said he will leave for less than max. "

This, of course, from the guy who makes a daily point of reminding everyone that Gilbert is a flake whose word can't be trusted.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:27 PM

Yeah he lied, you troll! Les BouleS have a history of lying. Go ask LH, Rexy, Juwan, MJ, etc.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:15 PM
-------------------
How did EG lie to Hughes? EG did say that he would do whatever it takes to re-sign Larry (something to that effect), but negotiations is part of the process. Larry was not a max-player, so why start high on the bidding?

With Gil, he's max/near-max money, so the window for negotiations will be smaller, EG won't offer Gil 5 yrs/$50M, so there's no "disrespect" factor.

Pointless bringing up Chapman (Unseld was the GM) and Jordan (that's on Polin & Leonsis), those were not on EG. Did EG lie to Jeffries, no he didn't. EG was prepared to match any offer, but Jared wanted to play for Isiah, whom he had known since grade school and also because he felt that Eddie didn't play him right.

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 1:27 PM

"How did EG lie to Hughes? EG did say that he would do whatever it takes to re-sign Larry (something to that effect), but negotiations is part of the process. Larry was not a max-player, so why start high on the bidding?

With Gil, he's max/near-max money, so the window for negotiations will be smaller, EG won't offer Gil 5 yrs/$50M, so there's no "disrespect" factor.

Pointless bringing up Chapman (Unseld was the GM) and Jordan (that's on Polin & Leonsis), those were not on EG. Did EG lie to Jeffries, no he didn't. EG was prepared to match any offer, but Jared wanted to play for Isiah, whom he had known since grade school and also because he felt that Eddie didn't play him right.

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 01:27 PM "

Dude, get real. EG marches on Abe's orders. Abe is still in charge, nomatter who is the GM.

You don't set the price on LH and then up it when it's too late. That's not "doing whatever it takes." That's playing games with a guy who carried your sorry team to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and Les BouleS haven't sniffed second round since he left.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:30 PM

"wtf? Does Trolly ever make sense or is this normal for him?

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:17 PM "

I guess anonymous Trolly has a tough time with reading comprehension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:18 PM

So Trolly, these so called "rakes" do they actually ask permission to scratch your tummy or do they just go ahead and start scratching? rofl

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:31 PM

"This, of course, from the guy who makes a daily point of reminding everyone that Gilbert is a flake whose word can't be trusted.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:27 PM "

So what part of that fact don't you comprehend? Even Ivan admits time and time again that Gilby can't be trusted.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:31 PM

So then Gilbert can't be trusted. Unless he says he'll sign somewhere else for less money, in which case everyone should take him at his word.

Got it.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:33 PM

Keithinator's got it right regarding the max contract offer, but I don't see another team giving him a 5-year deal without proving his knee is healthy. EG played his cards right with Hughes - he was offered a fair contract and Cleveland was willing to overpay. They ended up unloading him after 2+ years because it was a bad fit. EG knew Hughes was a good fit here was because of the chemistry of playing w/ GA and AJ, and didn't overpay.

Even if GA wants out, it will probably take a S&T where the Wiz would get something substantial in return. I think the Wiz realize resigning AJ is equally important and have to weight that as well before giving GA a max contract. The Wiz aren't even a .500 team if AJ leaves and we don't find a replacement like Brand.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 17, 2008 1:36 PM

""wtf? Does Trolly ever make sense or is this normal for him?

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:17 PM "

I guess anonymous Trolly has a tough time with reading comprehension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:18 PM

So Trolly, these so called "rakes" do they actually ask permission to scratch your tummy or do they just go ahead and start scratching? rofl

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:31 PM "

Trolly, I think you missed the points being traded. GM was talking about pussycats and himself being one, so I suggested that he take a rake from the shelf in his hardware store and scratch his beer belly. Simple as that.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:37 PM

"So then Gilbert can't be trusted. Unless he says he'll sign somewhere else for less money, in which case everyone should take him at his word.

Got it.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:33 PM "

You seem to trust his words, so you go with it. I don't, so good for me.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:39 PM

But I sure as heck would be happy if he walked, so that's why I'm hoping he's not lying about leaving for less money!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 1:40 PM

""wtf? Does Trolly ever make sense or is this normal for him?

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:17 PM "

I guess anonymous Trolly has a tough time with reading comprehension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:18 PM

So Trolly, these so called "rakes" do they actually ask permission to scratch your tummy or do they just go ahead and start scratching? rofl

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:31 PM "

Trolly, I think you missed the points being traded. GM was talking about pussycats and himself being one, so I suggested that he take a rake from the shelf in his hardware store and scratch his beer belly. Simple as that.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:37 PM

Oh! So that's what this says: "Calm down and let one of those rakes to scratch your tummy with."

Wow! Reading comprehension, that's where it's at! rofl

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 1:43 PM

"The Wiz aren't even a .500 team if AJ leaves and we don't find a replacement like Brand."

Given that Brand is coming off a much much more serious knee injury and surgery than Arenas (one that can take more than a year to fully come back from) and that it was predetermined that he was going to be out all season, it's hard to see where acquiring him would be any less risky than keeping Arenas.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 1:46 PM

All this could be a moot point depending on how Gil comes back from the injury, hopefully we'll find out about the MRI very soon, we are wearing out this thread...

Posted by: CN | March 17, 2008 1:51 PM

Reading Comprehension

IT'S MAN-TASTIC!!

Posted by: Chris | March 17, 2008 1:51 PM

Don't you know no good?
Let one of those rakes to scratch
your tummy with, fool

Posted by: Haiku, not by Haiku | March 17, 2008 1:57 PM

Wizards Insider - Where reading comprehension happens.

Posted by: Dude | March 17, 2008 1:57 PM

On a more important note, looks like Arenas will be heading to L.A. this summer. If the Lakers really want him, the league will make sure they get him:

http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbn_arenas031708.html

Posted by: Gary Harper | March 17, 2008 1:57 PM

"Given that Brand is coming off a much much more serious knee injury and surgery than Arenas (one that can take more than a year to fully come back from) and that it was predetermined that he was going to be out all season, it's hard to see where acquiring him would be any less risky than keeping Arenas.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:46 PM "

A guard like Gilby relies much more on his quickness for success compared to Elton Brand. Apples and oranges.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 2:02 PM

"On a more important note, looks like Arenas will be heading to L.A. this summer. If the Lakers really want him, the league will make sure they get him:

http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbn_arenas031708.html
Posted by: Gary Harper | March 17, 2008 01:57 PM "


Lakers are over the cap, so the only way they get Gil is by sign-and-trade or by offering the mid-level exception. Some reason I don't think he could share the ball with Kobe or Vice versa

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 2:02 PM

"Don't you know no good?
Let one of those rakes to scratch
your tummy with, fool

Posted by: Haiku, not by Haiku | March 17, 2008 01:57 PM "

Scratch and sniff. That's what you do for those homeless dudes.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 2:03 PM

Ivan needs to hurry up and report on DS's response to Lebron's diss.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 2:05 PM

If Gil frees up Wiz cap money by leaving, EG can re-sign Antawn plus go for hot FA's. Gil is no sure longterm big-ticket thing with his history of injury and recovery. Maxing him this year doesn't look like smart from here.

Posted by: joe c | March 17, 2008 12:53 PM

Um, NO. That's not how the Cap works. If Gil leaves, that frees up $11Mil, but the Wiz would STILL be about $1M OVER THE SALARY CAP.

If they re-signed Jamison for say $10Million, they would save about $6Million.... putting them $5 Million under the cap.....

Not many top level Free Agents are going to want to come to Washington for $5 Mil.

Kal - check my numbers... you concur?

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:06 PM

lol Boy if everyone here got "edumacated" by Trolly on reading comprehension and such, we as a species will be in trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 17, 2008 2:07 PM

Rook, bet ya $7,000 Trolly can't help it and offs himself once EG does give Gil the max.

Posted by: | March 17, 2008 01:05 PM

I might take that bet - either way, I'm a winner!

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:08 PM

That's the only thing that merits looking at, because the only way to clear cap space for FA money is to move players without taking anything back in return. That's why teams trade players with longer deals for guys with expiring contracts, in order to create future cap space by renouncing FAs.

But the trading deadline has passed and contracts that expire this summer obviously can't be traded this summer. So there's no way anyone is going to be able to clear significantly more cap space beyond what they've already got coming to them in expiring contracts already on the books. And based on that, there's no team out there in position to sign Gilbert to a max deal outright.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 01:12 PM

Kal, Facts... Facts... Facts...

You can't convince some people with Facts; you might as well give it up... (grin)

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:11 PM

I guess you missed the Gilby quote where he said he would take less to go somewhere else if he doesn't get max from Les BouleS.
Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 01:17 PM

"Taking less" is one thing, but I don't see any contending teams having even close to $10 Million in CAP space this summer.

Arenas is not going to take $5-6 Million less than he can get from the Wizards. I don't care how eccentric or quirky he is, he's NOT CRAZY!

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:17 PM

88, It doesn't matter if Gil would sign some where else for $1 it doesn't change the amount of cap money it would free up for the Wizards. So your point about Gil going somewhere else and signing for less then the Max is, well, pointless as always.

At best the Wiz would have the Mid Level exception to work with if just Gil left. To get money to sign a major FA then they'd have to let Jamison walk too. Not anyone in the FA market that I'd think that would be worth letting Jamison and Arenas go to get a chance at.

As it is the Wiz could use the Midlevel exception and have Gil and Jamison back under cap rules. Only thing is they'd probably have to exceed the luxury tax level to do that. But it will be interesting to see if there are any names out there that may entice Grunfeld to consider asking Abe to pay luxury tax for.

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 2:19 PM

Rook,

It's hard to say exactly what the cap situation will be, because we don't know what the cap will be next year. And when calculating the Wizards' payroll, in addition to Jamison's salary we also have to account for raises to the other players under contract as well as the possibility of re-signing Mason (which would be a given, I think, if Arenas walks for nothing). That said, I think there are basically two scenarios: The Wizards end up under the cap for less than the MLE (which was your scenario) or they end up over the cap with only the MLE to spend. Either way, they won't be attracting any top shelf FAs. (Not that there are any top shelf FAs on the market.)

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 2:21 PM

A guard like Gilby relies much more on his quickness for success compared to Elton Brand. Apples and oranges.

Kal is comparing severity of injury, not position played. Forwards need to jump and move, cut and run, just like guards.

Apples and apples.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 17, 2008 2:26 PM

88, type, read twice, send once!

Anybody ever notice you can write 88 backwards, upside down, and even upside down AND backwards and it always looks the same.

Reading his posts that could explain the choice of handle....

Posted by: GM | March 17, 2008 2:28 PM

re: the probasketballnews.com report -- please. those guys are always writing crap like that. they're almost always wrong. they need something to bring people to the website, and any rumor involving arenas, given his ties to the area, will do.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 17, 2008 2:31 PM

I just looked at that article about LAL and the LAC interested in Arenas....

What a joke -

No one on either of those teams that would be of interest to the Wizards that is better than Arenas (Except Kobe - they won't trade straight up; Possibly Gasol - they won't trade ; and the Clips have Brand, but they won't trade him for Arenas either)....

I mean, Farmar is a nice player... but you gonna trade Arenas for Farmar (and other throw ins)?

The Wizards don't want Lamar Odom, he plays the same game as Jamison.

Unless Ernie gets snookered - I don't see anything happening with either of those teams for a Sign-and-Trade for Arenas.

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:31 PM

"Forwards need to jump and move, cut and run, just like guards."

Exactly. Plus, Brand is about 3 years older and 40 pounds heavier than Arenas, making the potential long-term implications of a knee injury more significant.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 2:34 PM

Rook,

It's hard to say exactly what the cap situation will be, because we don't know what the cap will be next year. And when calculating the Wizards' payroll, in addition to Jamison's salary we also have to account for raises to the other players under contract as well as the possibility of re-signing Mason (which would be a given, I think, if Arenas walks for nothing). That said, I think there are basically two scenarios: The Wizards end up under the cap for less than the MLE (which was your scenario) or they end up over the cap with only the MLE to spend. Either way, they won't be attracting any top shelf FAs. (Not that there are any top shelf FAs on the market.)

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 02:21 PM

Yeah Kal... I was just trying to do simple math.

I left out Mason, because I think he's playing himself into a nice contract. Some team out there is going to offer him the full mid-level exemption. I don't think the Wizards will match that.

I also left out any Wizards draft picks.

My point is still the same as the point you are making.... Resigning Arenas, or doing a Sign-and-Trade are the only real options for the Wizards to get full value.

Posted by: Rook | March 17, 2008 2:36 PM

"Given that Brand is coming off a much much more serious knee injury and surgery than Arenas"

Actually, I was curious about Elton Brand's injury. Didn't he rupture his Achilles' tendon? Or did he have knee surgery on top of that? I ruptured my Achilles' before. It took me about 4 months of rehab to back to sport. Brand is a younger professional athlete. I would think he would be able to recover faster than I am.

The only thing I can think of is that Brand is bigger and heavier than I am, so his Achilles' tendon needs to carry a bigger load; but still, I've wondered if Brand has other injuries.

Posted by: Sagaliba | March 17, 2008 2:49 PM

"Exactly. Plus, Brand is about 3 years older and 40 pounds heavier than Arenas, making the potential long-term implications of a knee injury more significant.

Posted by: kalorama | March 17, 2008 02:34 PM "

Yeah, I guess Brand's ability to beat his man off the dribble is way more than Gilby's ability. Gilby can turn into Chris Paul and John Stockton if his wheels fail him.

NOT!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 2:56 PM

It's great how I can type anything under the comments and mass hysteria ensues.

I can type "the bus is fast" and you'll have a bunch of homer Gilby trolls standing up like meerkats and climbing over each other to try to prove their knowledge of statistics, salary cap, trades, Les Boules history, etc.

I'll bet these troll meerkats are standing by right now to wait for my next post.

So fun and so funny.

LMAO!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 3:01 PM

Interesting analogy. But judging from that last step back three-point attempt that hit the front of the rim, LeBronski needs some lessons from the SB on how to "lean to the left and crank dat thang."

Posted by: John Brisker | March 17, 2008 3:02 PM

It's great how I can type anything under the comments and mass hysteria ensues.

I can type "the bus is fast" and you'll have a bunch of homer Gilby trolls standing up like meerkats and climbing over each other to try to prove their knowledge of statistics, salary cap, trades, Les Boules history, etc.

I'll bet these troll meerkats are standing by right now to wait for my next post.

So fun and so funny.

LMAO!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 17, 2008 03:01 PM


ME LAUGH WHEN ME SAY SUMTING AND ALL PEOPLE THEY SAY SUMTING TWO.

ME SAY BUS GO FAST AND ALL PEOPLE THEY YELL AND FALL DOWN AND SAY SUMTING THAT NUMBER AND OLD TEAM AND HAPPEN BEFORE.

RIGHT NOW ALL PEOPLE THEY WAIT WHAT I SAY SUMTING NOW. ME LAFF AND LAFF AT ALL PEOPLE THEY WAIT FOR ME NOW

Posted by: Smoov | March 17, 2008 3:41 PM

JSchon is a troll.

Posted by: JSchon | March 17, 2008 3:58 PM

Sign-and-Trade of GA for Elton Brand makes no sense unless they know for sure that AJ is going to walk. A complely torn achilles tendon for a BB player is even more serious than the injury GA is rehabbing. If Gilbert were to walk, he'd be giving up at least $5-6M per season to play on a team like Philly who is much further than the Wiz from contending. Abe loves AJ and won't let him walk unless he decides to take less to play for a contender like the Spurs...resign Gilby, AJ, and stop with all of the nonsense about the S&T. We're on the verge of the 5th seed without Gilby so stop stressing.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 17, 2008 5:18 PM

LeBron is pathetic and dumb. His point (I think) was that he's too great of a basketball player to even respond to Stevenson. He doesn't understand that by saying this toolish comment, he is, in effect, responding to Stevenson.

But the funny thing is, he only affirms Stevenson's original point in that he is an overrated, uncharismatic clown who believes his own media hype. By comparing himself to Jay-Z (an overrated rapper, in my opinion, put on a pedestal by MTV) and comparing Stevenson to Soulja Boy only shows how highly he thinks of himself. This is why I hate LeBron. He's a great basketball player, but the media and big corporations have put him on such a high pedestal that he actually thinks that he has real charisma and character. He sees himself as the ultimate entertainer, which is why he does painful-to-watch sing and dance routines and tries to show off his acting ability and "knack for comedy" in his commercials. In reality, no one I know thinks that he's a likable personality. His SNL episode was actually embarassing to watch. His commercials with all the LeBrons are downright not funny. He tries so hard to have people think that he is more than a basketball player, but fails miserably. Stevenson is a jackass and talks a lot of junk, but deep down he is still humble. He's admitted that he's just glad to still be in the league. I'm glad an NBA player finally spoke up about how LeBron is nothing but a good basketball player with a manufactured personality, having undeserving fame handed to him on a silver platter. LeBron ahould have responded with a simple "we'll see what happens the next time we play". Instead, he proves Stevenson correct.

Posted by: LeBron=Tool | March 18, 2008 1:29 AM

hes da best player alive

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:37 PM

hes da best player alive

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