Tough Juice Gets It Done (Songaila too)

My favorite Caron Butler dunk is still the one he threw down over Yao Ming last season because well, the guy is 7-7. Another was the one he pounded on Alonzo Mourning's head in Miami last year and of course, who can forget the one he hammered on Andris Biedrins in a game against GS at the VC last season?

But tonight, Butler literally changed a game with the dunk he jammed on Kevin "I look like a late 80's hip-hop video extra" Martin in the third quarter with the Wiz trailing 75-71 with 2:58 to play.

It happened right in front of me. Caron caught the pass on the wing, shook John Salmons with a crossover dribble, took a couple of dribbles in the lane and then lifted off. The best part was the way he cocked the ball behind his head, held the pose for a quick second and then waited for Martin to unwisely jump (bad move Kevin, bad move) before unleashing a nasty one-hander on Martin's head. The reaction was classic. One Kings fan sitting behind me yelled out: "Wow" and then: "Show a replay!"

The Wiz bench erupted, the Arco Arena crowd let out an "oooohhh" and from there, the Kings were done. Finished. The play sparked a 16-4 run that spanned the start the start of the fourth.

Caron: "It was a momentum changer in our favor. It shocked the crowd and my teammates fed off it and it gave us a boost."

-Another key was the continued strong play of Darius Songaila. After scoring 8 of his 10 points in Wednesday's win at Seattle, Songaila came off the bench to score 17 points on six of eight shooting tonight. He scored Washington's last 8 points. The big bucket came when he cut backdoor in classic Princeton offense style, received a nice pass from Butler and made a reverse layup with his right hand on the left side of the basket. That's not easy to do in a game of H-O-R-S-E let alone in the fourth quarter of a tight NBA game but Songaila is a fundamentally sound player who excells at that kind of thing.

-DeShawn Stevenson came up big as well with eight fourth quarter points. He hit two huge threes. Roger Mason Jr only had seven points but they were a big seven. He opened the fourth with a long jumper and then a 3 that kept the momentum going.

-Songaila's minutes are going to come from somewhere and right now, that somewhere is Andray Blatche. Andray played 1:54 at Seattle Wednesday night and 9:43 tonight. He had one really sweet first half play though when he chased Salmons down and swatted his shot off the glass.

-There are two ways to look at these last two wins: on the one hand, the Wiz showed guts by coming back from 17 points down in the third quarter in Seattle Wednesday night and they came back from 16 points back tonight. On the other, they started slowly against lottery-bound teams and had to get bailed out late. Either way, they are 2-1 on this five-gamer with the suddenly vulnerable Lakers coming up Sunday.


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By Ivan Carter |  March 29, 2008; 2:04 AM ET
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thanks ivan any update on Gil and his status.
great win tonight by the wiz

Posted by: brandon | March 29, 2008 2:38 AM

That was 1 sick DUNK, but the crossover dribble to shake Salmon out his shoes might be even sicker!!! WOW...what a game changing moment.

Posted by: Bangladesh | March 29, 2008 2:39 AM

Posted by: Chess Master Juice | March 29, 2008 3:52 AM

The will to win shined through again in Arco.

Blatche's minutes went to CB and AJ (43 each). His performance is way down. EJ needs to drop the stick and pick up the carrot.

We need CB, AJ and GA to go into the playoffs healthy and strong. The other guys need to pick it up now.

Posted by: Izman | March 29, 2008 7:26 AM

Another of the fourth-quarter turning points was when Songaila replaced Haywood. At that time, the Kings were making their run. Once Darius came in, his movement and energy were the key, I thought, to putting Sacramento away.

Normally, that's the kind of substitution I hate -- smallball again. But it worked perfectly last night.

The Kings have some serious shooters on that team -- Garcia and Martin have beautiful-looking shots. But we've got Jamison and Butler. We out-toughed them.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 29, 2008 8:28 AM

Ivan, You know that Roger dropped the Jr from his name right?
So just Roger Mason from now on okay? :)
Or if you keep calling him jr... you might want to start calling Gilbert Arenas Jr too....

Posted by: WizDom | March 29, 2008 8:46 AM

Bad news....I heard Gasol is hoping to return on Sunday night. Gasol's return along with the Lakers back to back losses against the Bobcats and Grizzles (which will fire them up) does not bode well for the Wiz.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 29, 2008 9:29 AM

Caron's dunk was almost like Dwight Howard's superman dunk. High enough to throw it into the rim, but not quite/barely getting his hand on the rim.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 29, 2008 9:40 AM

Am I imagining this, or is Caron elevating much higher on his dunks these days? On that nasty one in the third quarter, it looked as if he got most of his arm above the rim.

btw I can't understand why people say the Wizards have matchup problems with more "athletic" teams. Among the starters, CB, DS and even AD (at his age) have serious ups. NY and DM do as well. AB is an adequate if not great leaper, but he's quick and exceptionally nimble. When GA is healthy, he's astonishingly quick with great body control.

Posted by: John Brisker | March 29, 2008 9:41 AM

Congrat to karolama, his buddy Songaila continues his good plays, and the stats confirm that too! ;)

I am happy for any Wizards player that plays well! I think Songaila's regained shooting touch allowed him to curl around and scored against players who are bigger than him, which he does exceptionally well in recent games. One quick pump fake to draw the defender close, then he just curled around and put him in a bad defending position.

Dunk from an alley-oops for Jamison? Have him done this before?

Folks, Wizards is only 2 games behind Cleveland. Home court in the playoff? Wait, Wizards need to play Lakers and Utah, Damn!

Posted by: Sagaliba | March 29, 2008 10:02 AM

Good recognition by EJ getting Darius in the game,He is playing extremely well during this road trip,I have barbecued DSONG on this blog all season but he is playing his ass off pardon my french he is the master of the pick and roll and keeps his defender off balance with his ability to shoot the mid range jumper and his strong play around the hoop.Caron is playing at his usual all star level Antwan keeps his double double's intact if Gil comes back like I said this team will be very dangerous.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 29, 2008 10:20 AM

AJ is looking more "athletic" than ever. I hate that tag. AJ may not be the classic leaper but I will take his heart, instincts and smarts any day over an "athletic" big man. Wasn't JJ considered "athletic", and look where that got him.
Don't you get the feeling that CB still has anoter level of greatness he is still going to get to? He reminds of the Nero in the Matrix, as the charater starts to realize what he is capable of, toward the end of the movie. Watch out...CB may be the "one" to take the Wiz to the promise land.

Posted by: oddjob | March 29, 2008 10:34 AM

It's been pointed out here time and again that Darius should never play center because he's not a shotblocker. But he really picked the team up again last night in the 4th. Defensively he attacks the pick and roll game aggressively and can take another team out of their bread and butter down the stretch.

Offensively the guy just takes the Princeton to another level. Smart, smart player that can handle the ball in the high post, and is really cagey to guard in the lowpost.

Eddie has done a nice job of alternating Songaila and Haywood some down the stretch to give teams different defensive looks and keep them off balance.

Blatche and Pecherov should watch Darius's every move. He might be really slow and can't jump, but his footwork is unbeleivable. He sets guys up, gains an angle, and he's got them on his back, or he slips free for a jumper. All from the slowest guy on the court most of the time.

If a guy as quick as Blatche would learn the details of setting a guy up like Songaila has he'd be a plain monster. I'd agree with Izman, Eddie needs to be careful to not freeze out Blatche too much. The Wiz don't need another pissing match like he got into with Haywood.

The Wiz will need the kid to develop his talent to take this team to elite status
next year. He's still really young, so his game is going to be up and down.

Eddie's got a balancing act with this young bench, he's got to go with his vet's to keep winning games. But he's got to give his youngsters enough run to let them know what the NBA game is all about so they know what to work on this offseason.

Two wins on a west coast swing, at least we won't be reading about a 1 and 4 ill fated road trip for the next year. Two and Three ain't bad, so now the Wiz have two games to play loose and hopefully come home with a winning road trip.

Then they can get back home pick up Gil and kick in overdrive for the playoffs.

The Kings mabe playing out the string, but Artest sure looked like a man playing for a job next year. I'd think he's going to opt out and look for a role on a playoff team. The guy's been a little weird off the court, but boy is he a warrior on it.

With all of his baggage, I doubt he'll get big money anywhere. As he's gotten older some of the off the court problems have subsided some. Or maybe he just doesn't make the news anymore. But somebody's going to get an bargain, or a guy that can blow up a locker room...

Posted by: GM | March 29, 2008 10:34 AM

I asked Roger how he wanted his name written in the paper and he told me to use theJr. So, I use the Jr.

Posted by: ivan | March 29, 2008 10:36 AM

Great thoughts as usual GM. I have been hard on EJ's substitutions over the years but got to give him his props now. He seems to have figured out how and when to use his bench. He knows that DMac can match up physically with someone so uses him. He sees that Songalia won't be a defensive liability and can help offensively so he rides him like last night. He sees that a certain team won't press as much so he can get away with Deshawn and Mason as guards for a stretch. He sees that Haywood is having a good night and lets him play or like last night is having a bad night and pulls him. I find myself upset less and less about his subbing. I still wish we could get a few laughers and Butler and Jamison could rest. They are playing long, hard minutes. Gilbert better have broad shoulders when he gets back because these guys need a break before mid-April comes upon us.

So what's the concensus of the blog...Cavs or Magic? Who do we want to face? Should we be trying to position ourselves for a 6th seed? I have a feeling that Dwight Howard would destroy us in 6 so give me the Cavs. They are over-rated. The trade has them all out of whack. Their defense was the key last year and I don't think they are as good. I think we go all out and try to get that 4th seed. Heck, 76ers may sneak up to the 5 at this rate!

Wow, Sunday nights game should be fun to watch.

Posted by: BmoreRev | March 29, 2008 11:04 AM

It's the tale of two seasons for Songaila and Blatche. Blatche started with a lot of energy that made up for some of his defencies (ie. offensive prowess or consistency on defense), but he has clearly hit the wall. His recent play suggests he does not deserve to see bench action during the playoffs. Songaila on the other hand seemed to be a terrible fit for the Zards when for the majority of the season. But his veteran prowess and clean fundamentals are really shining through. For me, it's the disconnect for a lot of players in the league from being flashy to having fundamentals. Yes, maybe Songalia, Jamison, and other veterans don't make earthshattering dunks or athletic blocks, but they put up solid (and consistent) numbers backed up with a professional attitude. These types of players last a lot longer than the Blatches and Youngs who seem more interested in making one athletic play a game then say, moving their feet on defense or learning to set a correct pick.

Posted by: alec | March 29, 2008 11:11 AM

I meant to say that those players last a lot longer in the league.

Anyway, any update on Etan Thomas? Etan has one value only for the Zards right now, and that's the physicality he could bring against Dwight Howard in a possible first round series. He's a big boy and will have 6 fouls to use, and I don't think he'll be as timid as Brendon is in dealing with him.

Also Ivan, any chance the Post will do a report on the Wiz medical staff? It seems like they need a MAJOR overhaul considering the way Arenas and Thomas' rehab has gone (constant set backs, bad advice, inconsistency in treatment). Recent years show this isn't just a fluke either -- remember what happened to Jarvis?

Posted by: alec | March 29, 2008 11:15 AM

So what's the concensus of the blog...Cavs or Magic? Who do we want to face?

Gimme the Cavs. Not because of better matchups or anything, but because of the grudge match that every game will be. Those teams seem to bring out the passion in each other. Deshawn's "overrated" comments about LeBron added liquid nitrogen to the fire.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 29, 2008 11:54 AM

at least we won't be reading about a 1 and 4 ill fated road trip for the next year.

Posted by: GM | March 29, 2008 10:34 AM

LOL - We'll be hearing about it.. you can bet 7,000 on it.

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 12:01 PM

The problem with AB seems to mostly be a conditioning problem. The guy just never got himself in good enough shape to contribute major minutes over the long haul and he just seems worn down...almost like he has hit a rookie wall. Disapointing, but fixable if he is willing to work.

Posted by: oddjob | March 29, 2008 12:11 PM

I think that the Wizards could beat the Cavs in 5 games. They could.. they're not necessarily likely to, though. The next two games for the Cavs are tough matchups: Detroit and Philadelphia. If Washington can pull out upsets in L.A. and Salt Lake, they could be tied for that 4th spot.

Wondering aloud: is it really possible to incorporate Gilbert this late in the season, especially with so much competition for playoff position? Would Coach Jordan play Gilbert for 20 minutes if he's struggling with his shot? Is it worth dropping to a lower spot if it means getting Gilbert some critical playing time in advance of the playoffs?

Posted by: satch | March 29, 2008 12:12 PM

Jarvis, Pervis, John "hotplate" Williams, Jeff Ruland, the list goes on and on for 30+ years. I know basketball is a sport where alot of guys go down to knee injuries.

The Bullets/Wizards have never seemed to have particularly good luck at rehabbing guys. I don't know if it's been their medical staff or what, but this area has some of the finest hospitals in the world. And today anybody can jump on a plane and go to Alabama.

I don't know what the problem is but the Wiz/Bullets always have seemed to have too many false starts during guy's rehabs and have ended up setting guys back in the end.

Posted by: GM | March 29, 2008 12:17 PM

I think the Wizards, especially a healthy Wizards, match up better against Cleveland than against Orlando.

Satch - as for Arenas.... He can take Young's minutes for the rest of the year...and spell Antonio Daniels... Nick has shown some flashes, but I'd rather give those 16 minutes to Arenas... Sit Daniels for another 4 minutes per game and you have the 20 minutes you need to get Arenas ready for the Playoffs.

Nick's averaging about 8 points per game in March... but he's also shown a tendancy to turn the ball over a lot. (17 turns in 12 games in March)..

I think you're seeing Eddie Jordan's playoff thinking.. with Songaila taking Blatch's minutes - and the Rookies playing fewer minutes.

Arenas playing more, resting Daniels, and Nick Young playing fewer minutes fits in with that....

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 12:27 PM

B-Rev, the thing I've noticed is Eddie isn't only coaching from the offensive end. He also accounting for defensive matchups too.

Overall he's used what he's got much better then past years. By next year, with another year of seasoning, this young talent on the bench should be able to help cutdown the heavy minutes some guys are getting.

I still think Jamison, Butler, log too many minutes, but without Gil Eddie hasn't had alot of options.

Posted by: GM | March 29, 2008 12:31 PM

do you believe that "the dunk" didn't even make sportscenter's top 10 plays??????

Posted by: Anonymous | March 29, 2008 12:36 PM

EJ is definitely thinking about defensive matchups more and that is good. I think he is thinking of shortening the bench for the playoffs as well. Songalia and Mason are his main subs with Daniels also when Gil returns and plays his 4-5 bench games. Blatche, Pecherov and DMac and Young will be used for special match-ups, foul trouble for one of the rotation guys or of course garbage time.

I just want to see a few blowouts in these last 12 games so these guys can catch their breath and heal a bit more. Comebacks like the last 2 games are both physically and emotionally draining.

Posted by: BmoreRev | March 29, 2008 12:52 PM

Of course we will hear about last year's West Coast trip, because they have already bettered it this year and that is because you know who is not here and so on and so forth, etc. . .

I would rather play the Cavs, it is time to pay those guys and their big-talkin fans back for the last two seasons.

Posted by: George Templeton | March 29, 2008 2:09 PM

Agree with Rook and Satch that the Wiz would rather face Cleveland who has been a mess since they made the trade....Orlando presents tough matches for the Wizards upfront with Turkoglu and Howard who normally have big games against us. The edge the Wiz have would be in the backcourt assuming GA was back and productive.

BRev has a good point that we need to start getting some rest for CB3 and AJ . It would be great to be the 5th seed, but I'd rather have a healthy rested team regardless of whether we play the Cavs or Orlando in the playoffs.

Props to EJ for the great use of the bench, particularly DSong and Mason over the last month. DSong was playing with a bad achilles for the 1st half of the season but is now hitting his stride. With GA back for the playoffs, we'd have a deep 8-man rotation with AD also coming off the bench.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 29, 2008 2:42 PM

I think if we are in position to make a run at the 4 seed we should do it.
I want the Cavs and I want home court advantage.

Lebron will have a tougher time pulling calls in the Verizon Center.

I think Home court is worth more than rest. They can rest when it's all done.

Posted by: g | March 29, 2008 2:57 PM

I don't know why everyone here is hoping for the 5th playoff spot...

Cleveland is playing sub-par basketball right now... just when the Wizards and Philly are turning it on..

It's not inconceivable that the Wiz could overtake Cleveland for that 4th spot.... and home court advantage in the 1st round.

If they win one of the next two... either against LA or Utah... anything could happen.

I might be overly optimistic, but I think they have a shot.

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 3:18 PM

Nasty, game changing dunk by Butler.

Hats off to Songaila: I've been blasting him; but he's been playing solid for the past month or so.

Looks like he's gotten back his legs and his shot. He must've been hurt earlier.

Posted by: SteveMG | March 29, 2008 3:41 PM

FYI - the Cav's final 10 games of the regular season are as follows:

@Detroit
Philadelphia
@Charlotte
Chicago
Orlando
New Jersey
@Chicago
Miami
@Philadelphia
Detroit

The Wizards' final 10 games of the regular season are as follows:

@LA Lakers
@Utah
Milwaukee
Miami
@Chicago
Boston
@Detroit
Philadelphia
Indiana
@Orlando

Washington appears to have a more difficult schedule here. They would also need to make up a two game deficit to Cleveland to tie for that 4th spot.

For the Wizards to lock up home-court advantage, I think they'd need to at least split the two remaining games in the west, and the Cavs would have to take a nap at some point.

Posted by: satch | March 29, 2008 3:44 PM

The Wizards aren't in a position where they can afford to even be thinking about seeding or matchups. They just need to win as many games as possible and go into the playoffs with some positive momentum. Regardless of whether they get Orlando or Cleveland, the Wiz are going to be the underdogs and will have to be on their A game throughout to have any real chance at advancement.

Posted by: kalorama | March 29, 2008 3:56 PM

The way Roger Mason has played these past few weeks, it looks like he just earned himself a 3 to 4 year contract worth $15 mill. He's the player that Jarvis Hayes never could be. Are they going to let Mason go like they did Juan Dixon and Steve Blake or are they going to make a concerted effort to keep him? One thing the Zards always lacked was a guard that could make open shots.

Ivan, what do you think?

Posted by: Steph-fon | March 29, 2008 4:02 PM

"I look like a late 80's hip-hop video extra" That is Fuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnny!

Posted by: Whiz-Fan in Dallas | March 29, 2008 4:35 PM

All Gilby lovers should read an editorial in Section A13 of the Post today. Pretty funny.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 29, 2008 7:21 PM

All Gilby lovers should read an editorial in Section A13 of the Post today. Pretty funny.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 29, 2008 07:21 PM

What did it say?

Posted by: kaloroma | March 29, 2008 8:51 PM

Just read it if you want, Kalorama...you are just feeding him...GEEZ.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 29, 2008 9:14 PM

Cleveland getting killed by Detroit... Pistons up by 20 mid-way through the 3rd quarter.

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 9:28 PM

Great thoughts as usual GM. I have been hard on EJ's substitutions over the years but got to give him his props now. He seems to have figured out how and when to use his bench. He knows that DMac can match up physically with someone so uses him. He sees that Songalia won't be a defensive liability and can help offensively so he rides him like last night. He sees that a certain team won't press as much so he can get away with Deshawn and Mason as guards for a stretch. He sees that Haywood is having a good night and lets him play or like last night is having a bad night and pulls him. I find myself upset less and less about his subbing.

Posted by: BmoreRev | March 29, 2008 11:04 AM

Great post BmoreRev. EJ seems to be making the right combo calls now. I can totally agree with you. I do not cringe anymore when he makes his subs, even with Haywood.

I still think he leaves Haywood on the bench to long in the 2nd quarter but i am not complaining because they are winning and DSong is playing like he did last year when he first got here.

OPec should try to model his game like DSong and then he will get some more run. He has to quit shooting that "ugly" set-shot "j" of his because it never goes in....!!!! He needs to take his game to the paint and he would then get more playing time.

I don't know what is wrong with my boy AB. I hope he gets it together in the playoffs. Lastly, I missed this game too because I was "gone" by halftime counting sheep. I guess I can't hang with these late games like I use to (before wife and kids). I will be glad when they go back to normal game times so I can see these comebacks I keeping missing......

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | March 29, 2008 9:33 PM

Lastly, I missed this game too because I was "gone" by halftime counting sheep. I guess I can't hang with these late games like I use to (before wife and kids). I will be glad when they go back to normal game times so I can see these comebacks I keeping missing......

from Bullet Fever #1

Hey BF,

Easy solution: videotape (or tivo) the games like I do. Good that wife and kids are a priority. It only takes a good hour to zip through a game. I probably watch only about 1 in 4 games live and real time. But I have seen almost every game. Even if I am watching west coast game I make sure I can see it in the morning cause I know I may fall asleep. I watch most home games between 9:30 and 11 when I get home.

Posted by: BmoreRev | March 29, 2008 10:03 PM

Give me the Cavs all day long! We will beat them with the big three 80% healthy. I don't believe they have our number at all and I would love to shut LeBron up!

Posted by: Rob P | March 29, 2008 10:24 PM

EJ's thinking on defense is coming from Mike his asst coach. Mike is the guy who has to continually remind EJ that is time to put BH back in the game...

Posted by: oddjob | March 29, 2008 11:47 PM

Focus on a Different Arena

Saturday, March 29, 2008; Page A13

What's wrong with you? Led by Antawn Jamison's 24 points and 12 rebounds, the Washington Wizards defeated the Detroit Pistons, the second-best team in the NBA's Eastern Conference, for their eighth win in 10 games, and the March 24 headline in my paper read: "Doctors Upset Arenas, Keep Guard on Bench; Wizard's Return Uncertain, But Team Wins."

That's not news. Arenas had missed 60 games with his knee injury. What difference did one more make?

The Wizards are not "The Gilbert Arenas Show." Yes, he's a great player -- when he plays.

Isn't it about time you recognized that the Wizards have become a very good basketball team without Arenas? Why make such a fuss over a player who has contributed nothing since November? He hasn't been missed at all since Caron Butler came back.

-- Robert C. Southee

Annandale

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 29, 2008 11:54 PM

I'll take the Cavs also, that way I can talk junk to Austin Carr(Cavs analyst) and former classmate at Mackin High,Wash.D.C. I've had to listen to him talk crap for two years running and nothing would be sweeter than to take the LeBron's down.We need Andray to get it together ASAP!!!! he could be very valuable come playoff time but he can't continue to make the crazy turnovers and expect playing time,big games Sunday and Monday need a split big time.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 29, 2008 11:58 PM

And with the Cavs losing once again, fourth-place creeps closer to being a realistic goal.

Kudos to Songaila for how he's played the last few games, but whoever coined the term "slow smallball," that's what I think everytime Songaila comes in for Haywood.

Posted by: George Templeton | March 30, 2008 12:31 AM

My real name is DC Fairy88.

Everyone knows why.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 2:43 AM

DC Fairy88:

That's not an "editorial," you fool.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 2:47 AM

It was a STUPID "Letter to the Editor" - hilarious that the troll thinks that is big news.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 9:14 AM

LOL & LMAO you idiot anonymous TROLL!!!

Nobody said it was BIG NEWS! I said it was FUNNY!!! And, not only was it FUNNY, but it was 100% spot on!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 9:42 AM

"LOL - We'll be hearing about it.. you can bet 7,000 on it.

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 12:01 PM "

I'm willing to bet $7000 that Rook's an idiot.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 9:43 AM

"Two wins on a west coast swing, at least we won't be reading about a 1 and 4 ill fated road trip for the next year. Two and Three ain't bad, so now the Wiz have two games to play loose and hopefully come home with a winning road trip.

Posted by: GM | March 29, 2008 10:34 AM "

YESSSSSS, we can thank CARON for that.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 9:46 AM

and AJ, and Mason, and the TEAM!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 10:04 AM

"LOL - We'll be hearing about it.. you can bet 7,000 on it.

Posted by: Rook | March 29, 2008 12:01 PM "

I'm willing to bet $7000 that Rook's an idiot.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 09:43 AM

I'll take that bet!

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Pay up!

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 10:09 AM

Better yet - give me your address, and I'll drop by to get my money....

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 10:10 AM

You lose, so you pay up! Donate it to the "Get Well Gilby" fund or go buy yourself another business calculator to do your stats analysis.

IDIOT!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 10:37 AM

What an interesting quote from EJ on two fronts:

"We rely on our veteran leadership," Jordan said. "They tell our guys every halftime, every timeout, every dead ball: 'Stay in it, concentrate.' This is just a tribute to our leadership. Antawn, Caron, A.D. and DeShawn. They really take hold of our team and lead our team. Sometimes, coaching is overrated because they just took over the game and got it done."


What about BTH?

And yes, coaching is overrated on Les BouleS when you have dedicated and focused guys like AJ and Caron.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 11:09 AM

You lose, so you pay up! Donate it to the "Get Well Gilby" fund or go buy yourself another business calculator to do your stats analysis.

IDIOT!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 10:37 AM

Ok - you win..... give me your address so I can come by and give your "proceeds"....

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 11:16 AM

Gentleman: Correct me if I am wrong do we not have two number one's in this years upcomming draft our own and the Grizzlies no.1 for JCN trade any thoughts,I'm thinking Thabeet of UCONN with one of those picks would appreciate input from fellow Wiz fans,thanks.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 30, 2008 11:32 AM

Gentleman: Correct me if I am wrong do we not have two number one's in this years upcomming draft our own and the Grizzlies no.1 for JCN trade any thoughts,I'm thinking Thabeet of UCONN with one of those picks would appreciate input from fellow Wiz fans,thanks.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | March 30, 2008 11:32 AM

You are right, except the Grizzlies pick is top 19 protected this year... we won't be able to use that pick this year.

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 11:55 AM

You lose, so you pay up! Donate it to the "Get Well Gilby" fund or go buy yourself another business calculator to do your stats analysis.

IDIOT!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 10:37 AM

Ok - you win..... give me your address so I can come by and give your "proceeds"....

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 11:16 AM


MORAN!

Posted by: DC Man 88 | March 30, 2008 12:04 PM

DARGREGMAG - Thabeet is not a good pick for the Wizards in the 1st round... Great size, huge wingspan, and a tremendous athlete - but not much of a worker... Good off-ball help defender with lots of blocks, but good big men push him around and pretty much score at will. Offensively challenged.. with hands of stone - and not much of a rebounder, considering his size. Definately not someone to waste a 1st round pick on... If he's still available in the 2nd round, then YES!

I'd rather see them draft a point guard with some speed and quickness (Collison, Augustin)... someone that can defend the quicker points in the League that the Wizards have trouble with.

Either that, or a rebounding beast. Someone very strong.. a banger - enforcer. (Think David Lee of the Knicks)... Kevin Love will probably not be available when the Wizards pick, but someone like that would be a good pick.

Finally, if nothing better is available, Roy Hibbert would be a good pick. He's 7'2" and a solid low post defender. He already knows the Princeton Offense, because that's what Georgetown runs.

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 12:07 PM

MORAN!

Posted by: DC Man 88 | March 30, 2008 12:04 PM


LOL - perhaps you should learn to spell before you start calling others MORON !!

You moron!!

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 12:09 PM

MORAN!

Posted by: DC Man 88 | March 30, 2008 12:04 PM

LMAO, what a morOn! Why doesn't he just crawl up inside of his cardboard box and stay away from this site?

Posted by: Joe | March 30, 2008 12:10 PM

Assuming the Wizards have a pick somewhere between 14-18 it might make sense to package the pick in a trade for another veteran. This year we have 3 rookies and Blatche who is younger than all of them, all getting some quality PT and all making occasional contributions. It seems to me that next season will determine whether Young, DMac, Pech or Blatche (any or all) will be quality rotation players or potential starters. Do we need another rookie from the middle of the first round of a very average draft class to try and work into the system? Seems to me with most of this roster returning it will be challenging enough continuing to develop the kids we have.

Posted by: arnie | March 30, 2008 12:11 PM

Arnie - you can't just trade draft picks for players.... You have to match salaries...

You can certainly "package" players WITH draft picks, but the salaries of the players still have to be close. I think they have to be within 25%...

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 12:17 PM

DC Man88, you're a guofy dork!

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 1:29 PM

Rookie, you're an IDIOT TROLL!!!

You can even spell gOofy!!!! LEARN HOW TO SPELL!

Goofy doesn't have a "U" in it.

Also, don't blame someone else for making a post trying to show that you can't spell "goofy" because I won't bother to cry that someone else is making posts using my name too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 1:33 PM

Joe, you need to crawl back into that Troll cave that you came out of, and start paying your mom some of that basement rent!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 1:34 PM

"Ok - you win..... give me your address so I can come by and give your "proceeds"....

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 11:16 AM "

Since you lost your bet, I'll do YOU a favor and stop by and pick it up from your address. You can leave it in the mail box too, because I wouldn't want you to have to leave your mom's basement just to pay up that $7k. Your mom probably would then start charging for rent.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 1:36 PM

Since you lost your bet, I'll do YOU a favor and stop by and pick it up from your address. You can leave it in the mail box too, because I wouldn't want you to have to leave your mom's basement just to pay up that $7k. Your mom probably would then start charging for rent.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 01:36 PM

We got ourselves a wise guy, we got ourselves a wise guy.

Posted by: Les Boules | March 30, 2008 2:27 PM

MORAN - priceless!!!

LMAO

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 3:09 PM

So 88, did you have to look up goofy in the dictionary to be able to misspell it in your post (using my name)..?

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 3:12 PM

No, I just had to look at the tattoe on your momma's fourhead.

Nice try, though.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 3:34 PM

Can someone call me a moron too?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 3:38 PM

Is anyone surprised that Lisa takes the entire load?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 3:39 PM

So what if I'm goofy? I've been known for worse.

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 3:40 PM

"No, I just had to look at the tattoe on your momma's fourhead.

Nice try, though.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 03:34 PM "

That's "forehead," not "fourhead" and "tattoo," not "tattoe."

The dunce who's trying to impersonate me cannot even spell.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 3:48 PM

If Patrick Ewing Jr. is still on the board in the second round, he'd be a solid piece to fill the Wizards need for toughness up front. He's big, athletic, and works hard on D, plus he's actually pretty skilled at passing and handling the ball. I see him playing the same kind of role as Najera or a more skilled/polished version of Turiaf, but with better size and hops.

Posted by: kalorama | March 30, 2008 4:34 PM

I like Patrick Jr in the second round for sure... Augustin could be a winner but I really believe that Roy Hibbert could be a Brad Daugherty type-center in the NBA and if he is available around 17-18 as he should be, he would be an excellent pick. I don't think his bad showing against Davidson was entirely his fault... he was in constant movement and seemed wide open under the basket a lot in the second half but Georgetown's perimeter players appeared oblivious... You don't have to be a coaching genius to pound the ball inside against an undersized opponent but for some reason the Hoyas did not do this.

Also, Hansbrough will probably also drift down in the first round also and he could be a young Songaila.

For sure we will not find a game-breaker with our picks in this year's draft.

Now to the matters at hand... LA Lakers will be in a very bad mood tonight, they have just lost two in a row to poor teams. If we are focused and get good efforts up front where the Lakers are seriously hurting, we might steal a win.

Posted by: khrabb | March 30, 2008 4:48 PM

I see the board is up to its usual lofty standards.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 4:58 PM

I can't see Les BouleS spending a draft pick on Patrick Ewing Jr. (6-8, 238lb) when this team already has DMac who barely gets off the bench, nevermind AB (3, 4, or 5) and Opech (4 or 5) who barely get any PT either.

Then again, based on Les BouleS draft history, they just might go ahead and waste that pick.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 30, 2008 6:03 PM

Now to the matters at hand... LA Lakers will be in a very bad mood tonight, they have just lost two in a row to poor teams. If we are focused and get good efforts up front where the Lakers are seriously hurting, we might steal a win.

Posted by: khrabb | March 30, 2008 04:48 PM

Yeah - but this game scares me, especially if Gasol is back tonight. Phil Jackson will have those guys ready.

Maybe we can sneak up on Utah...

Posted by: Rook | March 30, 2008 6:54 PM

Well whatever happens with the Lakers, at least the Philly and Toronto already got beat tonight.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 8:28 PM

MORAN!

Posted by: DC Man 88 | March 30, 2008 12:04 PM

That's funny. DC Fairy88 misspelled "moron." Is there a reason?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 9:07 PM

for some reason, I don't see Hansbrough's game translating to the league. He's got slow feet, and the stuff he throws up would get swatted by pretty much any athletic PF and most centers in the league. And he doesn't have much of a jumper. I see him being a songaila type in the sense of being a banger/scrapper. But besides that, to me his game does not resemble DSong's at all.

I hope he doesn't come here, And like 88 said, we do have a bit of a log-jam at the 4.

Posted by: jones-y | March 30, 2008 9:22 PM

Sportsnet just showed an interview with Gil in which he said taking care of (resigning)Antawn is the most important thing for the team - he told Antawn to "get what you want and I will take a pay cut."

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 9:32 PM

MORAN!

Posted by: DC Man 88 | March 30, 2008 12:04 PM

That's funny. DC Fairy88 misspelled "moron." Is there a reason?

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You guys are fools, he was obviously referring to Jim Moran, Congressman from Virginia. Speaking of which Bush looked and sounded very awkward on ESPN during the Nats game.

Jim Moran for President in '08!!!!

Posted by: Chris | March 30, 2008 9:38 PM

Why are all these posers on this blog so concerned about a stupid mispelled (intentionally or not) word? It doesn't make a hill of a beans difference to anything. Just move on with life and talk about basketball for a change. So many stupid people on this blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 30, 2008 9:57 PM

no comments on this ridiculo0us game!!!!

119-120. yikes... 40 seconds left.

Posted by: duk | March 31, 2008 12:09 AM

"for some reason, I don't see Hansbrough's game translating to the league."

I agree, to an extent. I think he could be a solid role player who carves out a decent career (a Popeye Jones type), but guys whose primary asset in college is hustle and effort rarely become stars in the NBA.

Posted by: kalorama | March 31, 2008 1:08 AM

"for some reason, I don't see Hansbrough's game translating to the league."

I agree, to an extent. I think he could be a solid role player who carves out a decent career (a Popeye Jones type), but guys whose primary asset in college is hustle and effort rarely become stars in the NBA.

Posted by: kalorama | March 31, 2008 1:08 AM

"I agree, to an extent. I think he could be a solid role player who carves out a decent career (a Popeye Jones type), but guys whose primary asset in college is hustle and effort rarely become stars in the NBA.

Posted by: kalorama | March 31, 2008 01:08 AM"

Hmmmmm, Tyler Hansbrough is averaging 23-10 this season, shoots .542 from the field, and 80% from the FT line. You have to be joking if you think TH is pure hustle and compare him to Popeye Jones.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 31, 2008 12:51 PM

Tyler Hansbrough is a great college player. Lots of great college players turn out to be less than great in the pros. The odds of Hansbrough averaging a double-double in the pros are extremely long. His own coach said he wasn't even the most skilled or talented player on the Tar heels, but that he succeeds by outworking everyone else.

Posted by: kalorama | March 31, 2008 1:09 PM

"Tyler Hansbrough is a great college player. Lots of great college players turn out to be less than great in the pros. The odds of Hansbrough averaging a double-double in the pros are extremely long. His own coach said he wasn't even the most skilled or talented player on the Tar heels, but that he succeeds by outworking everyone else.

Posted by: kalorama | March 31, 2008 01:09 PM "

Getting points off scraps is one thing, but shooting a high percentage and hitting free throws at 80% and getting a solid foundation from UNC gives him an edge. He's getting 23-10 in the ACC, not a div 3 schoool.

That motor will take a him a long way and odds are in his favor because of that motor.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 31, 2008 2:37 PM

My real name is DC Fairy88.

Everyone knows why: I luv Gilby!

Sashay!

I am also known as Clewiston88, or "ClueLess."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 1, 2008 2:23 AM

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Everyone knows why: I luv Gilby!

Sashay!

I am also known as Clewiston88, or "ClueLess."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 1, 2008 2:24 AM

My real name is DC Fairy88.

Everyone knows why: I luv Gilby!

Sashay!

I am also known as Clewiston88, or "ClueLess."

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 1, 2008 2:25 AM

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