Stevenson Fined

Deshawn Stevenson was fined $25,000 on Monday after making what the NBA determined to be "a menacing gesture" duriing the first quarter of the Washington Wizards' 100-97 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

In case you missed it, with 10 minutes, 16 seconds left in the first quarter, LeBron James goaltended a Stevenson layup after Delonte West fouled him. Before Stevenson went to the foul line, he lifted his hands and "threw up the diamond," connecting his thumbs and his index fingers in the shape of a diamond like the rapper Jay-Z does to symbolize the Roc-a-fella "dynasty."

Afterward, Stevenson made a throat-slashing gesture, which is a no-no with the league office and prompted the fine.


No doubt the gesture was Stevenson's not-so-subtle response to the Stevenson diss record Jay-Z made for James, which was played at the popular D.C. nightclub Love on Friday night. Fortunately for Stevenson, it's not going to take "seven movies by Will, seven movies at $20 mil" to pay the fine (That was a line from the Jay-Z freestyle, if you didn't know).

Stevenson said he wouldn't attack a "legend" like Jay-Z, but he got a solid whack at James in the second quarter, picking up a flagrant one foul. Reporters in Cleveland asked Cavaliers Coach Mike Brown if he wanted Stevenson to be suspended for Game 5 on Wednesday. Brown was diplomatic.

"Going back and watching that particular play, it looked like it was a pretty good lick, but it's up to the league to find out what the response will be," Brown said.

James said one of his teammates told him that Stevenson hit him with a closed fist, which has been the hot topic on some local radio stations here. Problem is, it isn't true. The Cleveland Plain Dealer sports front had the photos to prove it. You can check out these pictures for yourself.


This is not going to end well.(John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer)




Oh, no. Not the headband. (John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer)

Does that look like a closed fist?

No matter what people see, Stevenson may have trumped Art Modell as most hated man in Cleveland. Okay, that might be a stretch, but he's pretty high on the list with Modell and John Elway.

This series needs to get cleaned up, though. So far there have been six technical fouls, two flagrant one penalty fouls, one flagrant two penalty foul, one ejection and now a fine. The trash talk is just talk, but all the other extracurricular activities need to chill. This is the playoffs, but let's play ball.

By Michael Lee |  April 28, 2008; 5:57 PM ET
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 6:05 PM

DS, no more talking please, no more posturing, no more tough guy nonsense on the court. Just get the team going, it's a team effort or we're gone in the next game. James wants to get in your head, and you let him.

Posted by: rgz | April 28, 2008 6:09 PM

Wait, hold up. Didnt Damon Jones do the slash throat move back in DC when we played the Cavs in March? Remember right after that game DS called Bron overrated. Does anyone remember this? It was towards the end of the game. I was wondering if he got fined for that.

Posted by: Ashburn | April 28, 2008 6:24 PM

did i miss something, or was daniel gibson's cocked fist toward haywood not also a "menacing gesture"? it's amazing that he got away with that.

Posted by: ummmm | April 28, 2008 6:29 PM

Really who cares what Damon Jones does? It's obvious the Wizards are the losers not only in the press and with the fans but also on the court. Am a wizs fan but it's getting hard to defend the tough talk by the Wizards when they can't even back it up. If you can't win on your own court, how can you expect to win game 7 in Cleveland? Does anyone really think the wizards can win 3 straight (with 2 on the road)? I think not. Save your money Mr Pollin, just blow up the team right now. Don't waste money flying them to Cleveland.

Posted by: Bart | April 28, 2008 6:31 PM

I remember that quite well, Ashburn. As far as I know, there was no fine.

Posted by: kalorama | April 28, 2008 6:40 PM

Wait, hold up. Didnt Damon Jones do the slash throat move back in DC when we played the Cavs in March? Remember right after that game DS called Bron overrated. Does anyone remember this? It was towards the end of the game. I was wondering if he got fined for that.

Posted by: Ashburn | April 28, 2008 6:24 PM

I have no idea, but I certainly wouldn't put it past the NBA to rule by double standard.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 28, 2008 6:47 PM

The media is largely to blame for all this mess. Deshawn made the "overrated" comment a month ago but the media brought it back to life when the playoffs started and would not let it die. Gil's blog comments did not help, either....and the Wiz fans shouting "overrated" was simply idiotic.

Lebron plays it cool during his pressers but then calls Deshawn out at the club because he brought Soulja Boy to the game and now the HATE between the 2 teams has gotten out of control....which has resulted in the Cavs winning the battle.

If no words had been said (or re-reported) in the beginning, we could have simply played basketball and had a GREAT chance to win this series. But no...it became a HUGE MESS and now our season is OVER. Truly sad and so unnecessary.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 6:51 PM

A MAN THIS STARTING TO GET PERSONAL MAN FORGET BASKETBALL. I DONT MESS WIT LEBRON TELL HIM IT IS WAT IT IS.

Posted by: brandon | April 28, 2008 6:53 PM

can EJ not control this team? can't the wizards just shut up and play basketball? and i'm a true-blooded wizards fan.

Posted by: thickman | April 28, 2008 7:05 PM

I agree with the 6:51 poster. If ever there was a case where the media had an impact on the outcome of a sporting event it was in this series.
The combination of reporters hungry for controversy and an immature team (Wiz) resulted in hugely emotional games, and we're seeing that Cleveland is the more composed team in those situations.

Posted by: McBride | April 28, 2008 7:12 PM

I have to agree this is all getting embarrassing. I love the Wizards, and in fact agree with most of what they say. I know this is mostly media hype, but just stop playing to it. Who wants to claim to be a fan of all these boneheads?

Posted by: g | April 28, 2008 7:31 PM

Ahhh, I found it folks.

Watch until 1:06 and see what Jones does.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fdcFpnZ0Ht0

Posted by: Ashburn | April 28, 2008 7:39 PM

hello washington, this is charles barkley. i want that $25k for my charity horse race.

stay out of my five,
sir charles

Posted by: sirchuck | April 28, 2008 7:40 PM

If anything I've found all the Lebron-Stevenson stuff entertaining. Certainly nothing "boneheaded" that deserves a $25,000 fine. That much for a throat-slashing gesture?!? Just plain stupid.

Some of you guys should give the Wizards players a break. They're losing this series because the Cavs have been the better team, not because of some lack of maturity.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 28, 2008 8:07 PM

I got suspended for doing the throat slash. That little girl(Deshawn) is lucky she didn't get a couple days off.

Posted by: Chris Webber | April 28, 2008 8:16 PM

I couldnt agree with the latter part of the article more, when you talk to your players during an interview tell them to just play ball

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:22 PM

to hell with the cavs.To hell with lebron, d jones.
If only there team plane would crash into a ball of flames

Posted by: f the cavs | April 28, 2008 8:24 PM

Ashburn,

Do you seriously want to compare what Damon Jones did to what DaShawn did?.....Seriously?.....No....seriously? Come on man, give it up. It was night and day. Damon was so discreet with that. DeShawn being DeShawn meant to draw so much attention to himself. Again...seriously?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:29 PM

Um...I was just pointing it out and was wondering since DS got fined for the throat-slashing gesture, which is "no-no with the league office". Why Jones also didnt get a fine?

Again, I dont really care if Jones got fined but if the league office has a rule against the throat-slashing gesture, shouldnt the rule be applied in every case.

Posted by: Ashburn | April 28, 2008 8:36 PM

Yeah, Daniel Gibson did cock his fist, he should have went ahead and blasted Haywood's punk azz in the package. You know, since he wants to kick people now like a beyatch

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:37 PM

Maybe it should. But you have to admit that DeShawn went overboard with his. He was jumping up and down continuously doing it. Damon did it once. And to be honest, it was probably more that just that that led to the fine, its his build up of obnoxious behavior.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Michael, short of Deshawn causing a career-ending injury on LeBron, there's no way he could ever reach the stratosphere of hatred the city of Cleveland has for Art Modell.

Posted by: Brian | April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

After Wednesday night the madness will end....unless the next team that Cleveland faces decides to breath on Lebron....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:41 PM

cavs fans are whining about the cheap shots on lebron.

wizards fans are whining about everything, as usual.

and the wiz are still talking trash instead of looking in the mirror. the cavs are better and lebron owns the wiz.

Posted by: sternly | April 28, 2008 8:51 PM

The fact that the media and lebron are putting forth this image that the wizards are taking cheap shots and trying to hurt Lebron is a farce. Have they been watching any of the other playoff series? Did anyone see Jason Kidd take out Pargo? What about the Celtics-Hawks dispute that happened earlier? It's playoff basketball - that's all. This isn't some phenomena limited to the Wizards "dirty players"

Posted by: Jon Konkak | April 28, 2008 9:03 PM

Since when is bing obnoxious worth 25000.00
That is totally absurd and the fine wasn't even for the foul now you want him suspended too. Too funny. You all want it to be over on Wednesday but as for me I am hoping that the Wiz win. I really don't understand why most posters here think the Wiz can't win on Wednesday. The Cavaliers need to brought down a notch. They've already popped the champagne and too me they are being disrespectful as well. As for the media, it doesn't matter what the Wiz do, it's all about Lebron and the Lebronettes. Oh well.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:07 PM

Deshawn should be sent to the principal's office for the gesture, not fined $25k. He was fined because the game was nationally televised on a Sunday afternoon. This series is getting more and more absurd. If the Cavs take us out, I hope the Celtics bury Big Baby James.

Posted by: Lou | April 28, 2008 9:18 PM

if we keep it going and anyone goes to game 6, feel free to borrow my game 4 jay-z/labron sign

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x197/bryan_1976/lebron/gameposter.jpg

Posted by: bryan | April 28, 2008 9:28 PM

Someone needs to tell Lebron that he isn't Michael Jordan yet. No matter what Nike or Poweraid or his accountant tell him, he's got a LONG way to go, and may never get there.

When MJ was on the court, he had the demeanor and confidence of a hardened middle weight boxer.

When I see LeBron cry after every bump or foul he takes, he looks like a coddled, spoiled prep school brat.

Thank you Brendan, it needed to be said.

Posted by: Wei | April 28, 2008 9:35 PM

Maybe soldier boy can make one of those cheerleading moves for DeShawn for Wednesday's game.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:41 PM

By the way, the thing I find most laughable is the fact that people are saying that the "Wiz" play dirty. Come on now. I am so tired of the Wiz being disrespected by everyone and I am glad the DJ from KYS played the rebuttal rap song defending Deshawn and the Wiz and that the station itself is throwing its support behind the home team. At least someone in this city is sticking up for them because they are being mis portrayed.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:43 PM

THE CAVS ARE BEING DISRESPECTFUL? OH, I GUESS YOU WERE BORN THE DAY THE SERIES STARTED AND HEARD NOTHING PRIOR. NO BLOGS NO OVERRATED BLAST...NOTHING...FUNNY....JUST FUNNY

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:44 PM

Bryan, great sign! LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:44 PM

As a cleveland fan it seems like the wizards have chose to run their mouths and display poor sportmanship.Deshawn Stevenson acts like a gangbanging street thug.It reflects poorly on the coach and owner that they would let this behavior go on.Look to get crushed on the floor next game because your team has no disipline. Try running the floor instead of your mouths.Sucks to be a wizards fan your the laughing stock of the playoffs so far.

Posted by: AKRON | April 28, 2008 9:45 PM

The over rated comment was made prior to the series and then played over and over again by the media. Thank you very much. And you have to all cap me. I can read. Why you hating anyway. You have already called the series over and that Wednesday is just a formality right? So don't scream at me. As far as I am concerned it's just a game and is not even that serious.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:53 PM

I like your style DeShawn. We could make a hell of a tag-team in the WWF

Posted by: Adam PacMan Jones | April 28, 2008 9:53 PM

No, it sucks to be from a place so dull you gotta go to the big city blog to pour out all the bile you've built up in your little patch of nowhere.

Posted by: Another trolling Cleveland fan | April 28, 2008 9:56 PM

And here it is from Wikipedia: Cleveland Sports Curse

"There is an alleged curse on the city of Cleveland, Ohio that prevents them from winning a major sports championship. To this date, it has been arguably the biggest sports championship drought in any U.S. city. The last Cleveland title came in 1964 when the Browns won the NFL Championship. The Cleveland Indians last won the World Series in 1948 and the Cleveland Cavaliers have never won the NBA Finals, most recently losing in 2007 to the San Antonio Spurs. Some of their most infamous failures have been dubbed a title, often with a single word preceded by an ominous "The." Amongst locals and even sports fans in general, The Catch, Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble, and The Shot all evoke images of Cleveland sports futility. Less famous outside of Cleveland, Game 7 of the 1997 World Series, is commonly referred to as The Error (briefly known as The Mesa).

"Red Right 88 does not share the nomenclature, but the heartache is the same.

"The Cavaliers' recent loss to the San Antonio Spurs was not due to a single play or misplay but simply a superior opponent, yet the sting of the loss still resonates in a city searching for its first major championship since 1964.

"Only time will tell if the 2007 American League Championship Series will be reduced to either "The Collapse"[5] (for the series loss to the Boston Red Sox, despite being up three games to one) or "The Stop Sign" (due to Kenny Lofton being held up by third base coach Joel Skinner, as he likely would have scored the tying run in the late innings of Game 7) in Cleveland folklore.
Cleveland's misery is so detailed, that in 2004, ESPN named Cleveland the most tortured sports city.

"The cause for Cleveland's misery is not 100% agreed upon, although some trace it to either Rocky Colavito's departure to the Detroit Tigers in 1960, or Jim Brown's stunning retirement from the NFL in 1965 to produce the World War II film The Dirty Dozen."


Posted by: Cleveland Sports Curse | April 28, 2008 9:57 PM

Maybe we Washington fans should be a little more sympathetic toward the Cavs fans frothing at the mouth on this board. Cleveland sports teams have been so pathetic that there are actually web sites of devoted Cleveland sports fans that are dedicated to chronicling the Cleveland Sports Curse:

http://www.clevelandsportscurse.com/

These guys have no accomplishments to point to. This is as good as it gets for them. That's why they're on here talkin' like they've just won something more than a Game 4 against the 5th seed of the Leastern Conference.

Posted by: Poor Cleveland | April 28, 2008 9:58 PM

As a cleveland fan it seems like the wizards have chose to run their mouths and display poor sportmanship.Deshawn Stevenson acts like a gangbanging street thug.It reflects poorly on the coach and owner that they would let this behavior go on.Look to get crushed on the floor next game because your team has no disipline. Try running the floor instead of your mouths.Sucks to be a wizards fan your the laughing stock of the playoffs so far.

Posted by: AKRON | April 28, 2008 9:45 PM

Appearantly your not watching the Lakers/Nuggers series or the Dallas/Hornets series.

Egotism is taking hold of your boy LeBron in a solid way. Referring to ones self in the third person is not a sign of humility.

James may be a transcendent talent but if he starts buying into his ego wholesale then your chances of a repeat finals appearance are not going to go well.

If you make it to Boston you'll see what a double standard for fouls look like. Because I guarantee you that the NBA would much rather see a Lakers/Boston final than a Cavs/Lakers.

And on a sidenote; for the love of god google has a spell check built into the toolbar.

Posted by: gavin | April 28, 2008 10:00 PM

They even make videos about the Cleveland Curse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNq_ljwM6o

The Cleveland Curse

It's kinda funny, the first couple minutes of this YouTube video. You see all the ghosts from Cleveland sports past, all the famous losses that have become our legend -- The Catch, The Drive, The Shot, etc. You know, our mythology.

But the thing is, it just won't end. And about three minutes in something grabs your heart and just squeezes hard. Maybe it's the picture of Art Modell. Maybe it's Big Dawg leaving an empty Browns stadium -- the end of innocence in Cleveland sports. Maybe it's the picture of Ray Lewis holding up the newspaper that says "Ravens win Super Bowl", since they are the REAL Browns, and you know that Art got over once and for all and there's nothing you can do about it.

By the fourth minute you're shaking and ready to punch the computer screen. That's when our players all leave, like they're deserting a sinking ship. Then we're reminded of last year's Indians abrupt choke. And there's not even an Indians game to go lose yourself in, because even though they just beat John Lackey, who had thrown 30+ scoreless innings before the Tribe got to him, it means about as much as a free haircut does to a bald man. Still 10 games under, still 20 games out, still waiting for the Browns to start training camp with the quarterback situation ranked worst in the league and a team expected to finish last.

God hates Cleveland sports so much that even 18-year-olds in Ashtabula know everything there is to know about heartbreak, despite not being around most of this sadness. That's who made this montage. God hates Cleveland sports so much that He's made sure you can go to YouTube, search "Cleveland", and be reminded of His hatred by people who were in middle school when Art Modell moved the Browns. God hates Cleveland sports so much that in this lost Indians summer, with nothing but unispired baseball to watch, we can't even escape into our glorious past and remember the good times.


Posted by: Armpit on the Lake | April 28, 2008 10:02 PM

You would take Lebron in a second.

Posted by: Akron | April 28, 2008 10:02 PM

The Wrong Advices:
Be Glad You Ain't From Cleveland
By Sean McGrane

Here' some advices for Chicago fans-and Boston fans-and any other fan who wants to sell a bill of goods about how difficult it' been growing up a sports fan enthusiast in his particular town. Try being from Cleveland.

That' right, baby, the Mistake on the Lake. Without a doubt, Cleveland sports fans have endured more misery than fans from any other city. Out of all the American cities that have at least three major sports franchises-and for the purposes of this exercise only, we'll still call the NHL major-Cleveland has gone the longest without winning a title in any sport. Cleveland last celebrated a sports title 42 years ago-in 1964, when the Browns won the "NFL Championship." It wasn't even called the Super Bowl back then. The last time a Cleveland squad won a title that still exists today was 1948, when the Indians won a World Series.

Boston and Chicago' recent sports histories are rich with the names of legends-Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Red Auerbach; MJ and Scottie, Sweetness, Ernie Banks.

Cleveland? Well, let' see. We've had Bernie Kosar, Craig Ehlo, Cory Snyder. And who can forget Kenny "The Mouse" McFadden, John "Hot Rod" Williams, Charles Nagy, and Andre Thornton. We've also had The Drive, The Fumble, The Shot, and "Metcalf up the Middle." One of our proudest moments came when we hosted the infamous "Nickel Beer Night" at old Cleveland Stadium, where for one evening cheap beer and drunken riots triumphed over the national pastime, disgracing both a country and a sport.

Cleveland also had Bill Bellichik. He got fired by the Browns, then went on to win three Super Bowls with the Pats. Manny Ramirez wasn't resigned by the Indians, but did get picked up by Boston, where he led the Sox to their World Series win. When the Cavs eventually do trade LeBron for Nenad Kristic and draft picks, it'll only be a matter of time before the Nets win it all.

Even Bernie Kosar-who to this day remains the most revered athlete in all of Cleveland (and how telling is that?)-even Bernie, after being cut by the Browns in 1993, went on to finish that season by taking the final knee in the Cowboys Super Bowl win over Buffalo-a play which many in Cleveland still believe should have earned him the Super Bowl MVP.

Boston fans, during their World Series draught, at least had the romance of the Curse of the Bambino, a reference to the Sox' sale of Babe Ruth to the Yankees in the early 1900s. Cleveland fans, meanwhile, are still pissed about the Curse of the Ron-a reference to the 1989 trade that sent Ron Harper to the Clippers for Reggie Williams and Danny Ferry-a trade that nearly sparked riots throughout the City. Harper, naturally, went on to win four NBA titles. The Cavs haven't even been to the playoffs four times since his departure. Cursed, indeed.

And so this weekend, if a Seattle fan starts complaining about how his team has never made the Super Bowl, gently remind him about the Supersonics 1979 NBA title. And if a Pittsburgh fan is upset about his team losing in the AFC Championship game yet again, pat him on the back and remind him about that great 1980 Steelers team that won two consecutive Super Bowl rings.

And any time you feel like b*tching about your team' misfortune, just remember that it could always be worse: you could be from Cleveland.

Posted by: The Mistake on the Lake | April 28, 2008 10:07 PM

As a cleveland fan it seems like the wizards have chose to run their mouths and display poor sportmanship.

You write like a used pair of coral panties with a grass stain on the back.

Sucks to be a wizards fan your the laughing stock of the playoffs so far.

Also, your contractions are the stuff of nightmares. Words are hard, no? Thanks be to the man who shortened Cleaveland, thereby sparing its citizenry the dishonor of being unable to spell their own city.

Posted by: kwamesnani | April 28, 2008 10:08 PM

You would take Lebron in a second.

Posted by: Akron | April 28, 2008 10:02 PM

You know up until this last series I would have.

I don't respect him, his game is amazing I won't deny that. I just don't respect the amount of jawing he does with the refs, I don't respect the fact that even know the NBA is now allowing 4 steps he takes five and never gets called.

I don't find him to be a like able sports icon. Give me Portis, Dwight Howard, Ovie, Wade, Monk. Those guys play the game and all are/where great players, they never needed someone else to step in and fight their battles for them.

They all play their game and bust their ass without resorting to constant complaining.

Posted by: gavin | April 28, 2008 10:08 PM

Yea, did you see Kobe hit a shot, then blow on both fingers and act as if he were sticking guns in holsters or Pierce and Horsford going at in the Celts/Hawks series. This is playoff basketball at it's best. Now, if the Wiz can steal that game on Wednesday..............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:09 PM

DCman88, where are you when we need you :-)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:11 PM

Kal, Prazak, GM, Rob P, Darnell, Izman, will no one save us from all the childish crap on this thread and bring the talk back to basketball? Even DCman88 is lookin' pretty good right about now.

Posted by: Wiz Fan | April 28, 2008 10:15 PM

Lebron has lived up to the hype and is a team player. I never thought he could meet the lofty expextations heaped on him from the time he was a high school player.

Posted by: Akron | April 28, 2008 10:20 PM

Expectations My bad

Posted by: Akron | April 28, 2008 10:21 PM

Did anybody just see that elbow Kevin Garnett threw at Zaza of the Hawks? What did the announcers say - "Playoff basketball" After Zaza got in his face, Magic Johnson said "I love it...You have to show Garnett you arent afraid...Playoff Basketball" Whats going to happen when KG and Co. fould Lebron hard? Will the media claim they are thugs and dirty? Hopefully they will be consistent...doubtful though.

Posted by: Ronnie Seikaly | April 28, 2008 10:24 PM

Ronnie Seikaly, you are spot on. Last night when Jason Kidd turned Pargo upside down (far worse than Haywood's foul on Lebron) the announcers were not giving him a hard time. Later, Barkley waved it off too. But when we do it? It's the "Thug Wizards."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:33 PM

Oh yess...I saw this first when I played my recording..

Not only was it a foul on Lebron, but I think he was called for goal tending also.

DS quickly did his "can't feel my face," then diamond, and then the throat slash a few times, as I reported yesterday. I knew he was going to get fined.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 10:40 PM

If Les BouleS lose game 5, I hope there's an all out brawl like Pistons/Pacers Pt. 2.

Only when something like that happens will that make Stern pay attention to the ridiculous things that have gone on in this series. Of course, it's been a boom for ratings that will make Stern's pockets swell.

Jay Z should be taken aside and have his @ss chewed out by Stern if he wants to stay an owner. He's shown no class by ridiculing a player on a team while his own team is getting ready for the lottery, the NJ Nets.

EJ should up the thuggery and try hack a Lebron. What do they have to lose?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 10:51 PM

WizFan,
So agree, it is quite embarrassing to watch post after post dedicated to bashing the city of Cleveland. I tell myself these must be kids (teens/early 20s) posting so I can try to rationalize away the immaturity and lack of self awareness. My God, we live in D.C. where Marion Barry was virtually mayor for life..c'mon!

I liked Kal's post which addressed the change in playing style for the Wizards. This has never been a physical team (ok, not since the Beef Brothers) and yet we decide we are going to physically intimidate Lebron? Blatche is going to bring down the hammer? Ridiculous.

An issue I have asked about but not seen a resonse to concerns Gil. Does anyone know if he had the numbing shot before game 4? This would at least serve as some mitigation for him dragging that leg up and down the court. It does not protect EJ for letting him stay out there in that condition.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | April 28, 2008 10:53 PM

DC Man, was that 10:51 PM comment really by "you?" If so, I have a new found respect for you.

Posted by: Adam | April 28, 2008 10:54 PM

Yes, that be me.

As much as I rag on Les BouleS, it's a kick in the gut when outsiders come in and rag on your home team too. It's like brothers beating each other's brains out, but if someone else kicks your brother's @ss, then you want to kill them.

Game 5 will be a statement game for Les BouleS as a franchise. Either they're going to be the giver, or the receiver.....if you know what I mean.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 11:03 PM

Yeah DCMan, I knew U was a true fan! Me and me folks was just talking bout the same thing. I think if we goin down, we goin down swingin! And Damon Jones gets in, He gettin whooped.

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 11:28 PM

And how did Deshawn get fined 25 g's for throwin up the roc, and Paul Pierce threw up the blood sign to Al Horford and get the same fine? Where's the justice?

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 11:30 PM

From Brian Windhorst

Give the Wizards credit, they're still at it
April 28th, 2008

Brendan Haywood to the media today after hearing LeBron James' quote that the Wizards were trying to hurt him:

"C'mon man, this is the playoffs. He wears 23 and he wants to be Michael Jordan. I respect that because he's a great player. But look what Mike went through. Mike got fouled way worse than this. You know what I'm saying? Nobody is trying to hurt him. Everybody is trying to play basketball, trying to win, trying to play tough. Leave it alone."

The Cavs were off today so we'll have to wait for LeBron's response if there is one. He expressed he was tired of all the talk before the game yesterday. Say this for Haywood, he is not afraid to say anything. Of course in the Wizards' locker room they are going to mock LeBron and Mike Brown and Moondog. They can call all of them cry babies then and laugh and stuff. Of course in meetings Eddie Jordan is going to talk about how the team should foul LeBron and foul him hard. Sure when Drew Gooden and DeShawn Stevenson are on the phone or chillin' they can rip LeBron and call him names. Hey, we all do stuff like that at one time or another.

But these Wiz, they just put it all out there in the open and get called stupid, get booed and get beaten over and over. You gotta give them a nod, if only everyone in Washington operated with such transparency.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:54 PM

WE WILL LOOSE BECAUSE OUR TEAM IS NOT HEALTHY.I LIKE THE TOUGH TAKE NO PRISONERS APPROACH. WE NEED ONE OR TWO TOUGH GUYS TO MAKE IT WORK. THEY WOULD PRODUCE MORE REBOUNDS.
DON'T FIRE THE COACH. MOST COACHES WOULD NOT HAVE GOT THAT TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS.

Posted by: DOC | April 29, 2008 12:01 AM

David Stern can take that $25,000 fine and shove it up his little posterior. He doesn't have the guts to fine LeBaby for all the unsportsmanlike behavior that he routinely indulges in.

In this series, each team got blown out once, and the other two games were decided in the last 45 seconds. The Wiz let both those games slip away. Maybe they won't let that happen this time. If they defend like they did in game 4 and just hit the defensive glass harder, they can win.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 29, 2008 12:07 AM

So Deshawn is a classless ahole, so what? We have many aholes in DC. We love us some aholes! Some of our best friends are aholes.

Posted by: dsPUKE | April 29, 2008 1:08 AM

YOU WILL LOSE BECAUSE YOUR TEAM SUCKS! YOU'VE LOST THE LAST 3 YEARS AND HAVE WON A COMBINED 3 GAMES THE WHOLE TIME! AFTER AWHILE THE EXCUSES MUST GO AWAY! HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU LOSE TO A TEAM BEFORE ADMIT YOU BLOW!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:13 AM

Did you see DS slap his but during game 3? That was so cute! I think he likes having his butt spanked.

Posted by: DownwithWiz | April 29, 2008 1:25 AM

David Stern can take that $25,000 fine and shove it up his little posterior. He doesn't have the guts to fine LeBaby for all the unsportsmanlike behavior that he routinely indulges in.

In this series, each team got blown out once, and the other two games were decided in the last 45 seconds. The Wiz let both those games slip away. Maybe they won't let that happen this time. If they defend like they did in game 4 and just hit the defensive glass harder, they can win.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 29, 2008 12:07 AM

The Wizards do truly reflect their fans. All mouth, baseless comments and WISHFUL thinking! BWAHAHAHA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:28 AM

Wizard fans are like the politicians living in DC. They think if they tell a lie often enough it will become true. Grow up wizard fans.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:35 AM

>Yeah DCMan, I knew U was a true fan! Me and me folks was just talking bout the same thing. I think if we goin down, we goin down swingin! And Damon Jones gets in, He gettin whooped.

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 11:28 PM

Not in our house boiy

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:42 AM

>>If Les BouleS lose game 5, I hope there's an all out brawl like Pistons/Pacers Pt. 2.

Only when something like that happens will that make Stern pay attention to the ridiculous things that have gone on in this series. Of course, it's been a boom for ratings that will make Stern's pockets swell.

Jay Z should be taken aside and have his @ss chewed out by Stern if he wants to stay an owner. He's shown no class by ridiculing a player on a team while his own team is getting ready for the lottery, the NJ Nets.

EJ should up the thuggery and try hack a Lebron. What do they have to lose?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 10:51 PM

NOT in the Kings house

Posted by: Deshawn Ubiotch | April 29, 2008 1:49 AM

the politician point made above is the TRUTH. we will say anything at this point to avoid the topic of PLAYING BASKETBALL. I mean, that is what was supposed to occur in this series? I chose to watch basketball as a kid over wwf for a reason. At this pace, Ivan's a game away from climbing out of his seat and hitting lebron in the back with a chair.

Posted by: zach | April 29, 2008 3:12 AM

the politician comparison above is unfair to politicians at this point. these guys will report ANYTHING to avoid the topic of PLAYING BASKETBALL. I chose to watch basketball over wwf as a kid for a reason. At this pace, Ivan is a hard foul away from jumping out of the stands and hitting Lebron with a chair. this is truly nauseating.

Posted by: zach | April 29, 2008 3:15 AM

Wednesday night by the lake in Cleveland, where the two headed fish still swim...

The Wizards can rewrite their destiny.

"It ain't over til it's over"

Posted by: khrabb | April 29, 2008 4:15 AM

I love DC, but the Wiz are pathetic! You simply don't talk trash about a team that beat you two straight years in the play-offs. Seriously, love or hate LeBron, at least he wins in the play-offs.

The funny thing is that the Wiz players that are yapping -- DeShawn and Gimpy Gil -- are undermining their own team. Antawn, as classy a captain as there is, can't shut them up. If they'd follow his lead, this series might be tied.

Instead, they're looking at another first-round loss to the Cavs.

Posted by: Cavs Fan | April 29, 2008 4:26 AM

so what?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:59 AM

The bigger question in all of this is...why are Cleveland fans on our blog?

Posted by: mark | April 29, 2008 7:04 AM

if we keep it going and anyone goes to game 6, feel free to borrow my game 4 jay-z/labron sign

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x197/bryan_1976/lebron/gameposter.jpg

Posted by: bryan | April 29, 2008 7:18 AM

Because you guys are now famous for blogging because of Gilbert Arena calling the Cavs out in his blog then preceding to get their butts kicked

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:37 AM

You know, the thing I hate the most is the inaccurate portrayal of the Wiz as thugs. People are acting as if we were blown away in these playoffs. They won game one by a couple, blew us out, we blew them out and they won the last by a couple. It is not beyond reasonable to me to expect them to come out and play competitively on Wednesday. I know they are reading and hearing what is being said about them. And the one thing I know about my Wiz is they have pride. As for the game on Wednesday, I am not ready to conced to the Cavaliers. I am going to take a wait and see approach. Lastly, no one is talking about the things Lebron has done behind the scenes. He is being portrayed as a picked on choir boy who is beyond approach. I say give them hell on Wednesday Wiz. If you are going to go down, go down fighting(figurativel speaking) and make them earn that win. And for you Cleveland fans blogging here talking crap, we fans have pride too. As DCMan88 said, we are family. We can fight with one another, but we be damned if we are going to let you kick us when we are down and not say something about it. I'm out!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:19 AM

And damned if we are going to let your players and you blog before series and call us out and not let you know that now when the rubber has met the road we are kickin that azz

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:29 AM

I go to my aol homepage and they have the Lebron thing on that, and article about JayZ's song dissing Deshawn? And all these stories about crybaby. This has really gotten blown out of proportions to a media hype!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:47 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:48 AM

Cleveland dude: We blogged on OUR BLOGS and not yours. Nothing you type here is significant to us. As soon as we see the references to the Wiz being thugs or LeBron being intentionally hurt, we move on to the next entry.
Congrats on winning 3 out of the first 4. But hit me back when you're kissing the cup. There's only one NBA champ at the end of the season. Everybody else is a wannabe. Mark it down. The Cavs and Wizards will both be wannabe's when it's all said and done. When this season ends, you'll be right where we are...at home watching someone else celebrate. Don't you think it's a little over the top to celebrate a first round win over a team that has 2 of its 3 stars hurt?

Posted by: mark | April 29, 2008 9:01 AM

Truth be told, Cleveland should have swept us with the injuries that we have. The fact that we have kept it as close as we have (games 1,3, and 4) probably says more about your Cavs than it does about the Wizards.

Posted by: mark | April 29, 2008 9:04 AM

Cleveland fan,if you noticed, I am blogging amongst my own and am not on your blogs. Therefore, in enemy territory, your Cavs are fair game. Thanks Mark! By the way. Great post.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:12 AM

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 9:13 AM

Can we beat hem? Yes.
What team shows up? I don't know.

That has been the knock all season. the jeckyl and hyde of the NBA. We definitely aren't at full strength. That said, there could be nothing more crushing than the wiz turning around and winning the next 3. So if they wanted to set the cavs up... we are ready.

Cleveland trolls:

Remember you read it here. Jay Z ain't scratching LeBron's back for nothing. Jay Z wants a big act in the NY house he is building. And he has his sights set on LeBron. Ask your self this. When LeBron gets knocked out of the playoffs this season (and he will) is all this trash with washington gonna satisfy him? Is playing with Wally and West gonna make him want to stay? Is it Damon Jones or Big Z? Maybe Ben Wallace? If you are going to be a one man highwire act why stay in Cleveland. LeBron James leaves Cleveland and the smart money is on The NY Nets. So yuk it up now chimpas, you can gloss over all his warts today, but that will be the after taste in your mouth when he is long gone and Cleveland without LeBron is back to it's true roots. Lottery-topia.

Posted by: sodumb | April 29, 2008 9:43 AM

Does anyone else think it is a bit ironic that DeShawn got fined for the throat-cut because it is a "menacing gesture", but it is fine for him to do "I-can't-feel-my-face"?

I wonder what David Stern would say if someone informed him that "I can't feel my face" refers to someone who has done so much cocaine that your face has numbed over.

I guess the league's reasoning is that cocaine binges aren't as "menacing" as throat slashes.

Posted by: Johnny Yayo | April 29, 2008 9:52 AM

In referencing Damon Jones' throat slashing gesture, the league rule clearly states:

"No one in the NBA shall do the throat slash gesture, unless they play for the Cavaliers."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:52 AM

...and tattoos on the neck? Does David Stern realize that tattoos on the neck symbolize the devil? What has the NBA become?

You watch, next year, no hand gestures, no tattoos on the neck, nothin' will be allowed.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:56 AM

You watch, next year, no hand gestures, no tattoos on the neck, nothin' will be allowed.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 9:56 AM


unless they play for the Cavaliers.

Posted by: Rook | April 29, 2008 10:12 AM

I was thinking the same thing as what other posters have said, any other game I've watched in the playoffs, the commentators say the hard fouls are to be expected because it's the playoffs. I heard Reggie Miller say that on TNT, I don't know the ESPN commentators but I'm pretty sure they said that at other games. I have not heard any of the Pistons or their coach whining aboout McDyess getting his nose busted.

And I agree, if anything the Wizards play too soft, and have played soft all year. Suddenly telling them to foul hard anyone on the way to the basket is leaving them open to ridicule because they don't know hot to do it "right" that is they can't do it surreptitiously like the Cleveland team does.

Posted by: rgz | April 29, 2008 10:14 AM

This is why the Wizards frustrate me to know end: The Hawks just evened their series at Boston by winning both home games. It's absolutely ridiculous that the Hawks can take two from the Celtics, but the Wizards can't take two at home from the Cavs. The Celtics are clearly a better team than the Cavs -- CLEARLY -- but they lost twice to the Hawks. Meanwhile, the Wizards can't beat an inferior team. The sad part about this is, the Wizards would've had a chance against the Celtics, but in typical Washington fashion, the team overlooked an opponent it deemed as inferior because it was looking forward to a match up with the Celtics.

Posted by: Colin | April 29, 2008 10:20 AM

As I predicted, the Hawks are good, and they made a fantastic trade to get Bibby. Now, if they can retain Josh Smith...

It would be hilarious if Bahston lost.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-080429

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 10:25 AM

Right again I am....Brown to the Cats....UNC bond as strong as ever..

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3373007


Les BouleS now at a crossroads in the Soufeast Division. Orlando is good, Hawks are good, and Bobcats may be good with Larry. Les BouleS could be at the bottom with Miami.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 10:30 AM

anyone here think we can take game 5 from em? I mean we have to snap the streak at some point right?

hibachi posted today btw

Posted by: prescrunk | April 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Wiz win game 7. I continue to stand by it. You just wait and see.

Posted by: Barno | April 29, 2008 10:38 AM

thanks barno. we need more optimism around here.

Posted by: prescrunk | April 29, 2008 10:42 AM

Colin - what worries me more is that Sixers, Hawks and Magic have improved tremendously as a team and we all know that the Bulls are better than what their record shows. So if the Wizards don't improve in anyway we might not see them come playoff 2009. Given that the Wiz will pick in the lower 1st round,I don't see any draft pick that will help the team tremendously so the rooks (and AB) hopefully will improve OR we can get a good player via FA or trade. Also an improve in coaching will surely help. Lots of decisions for EG this off season.

Posted by: Dave, | April 29, 2008 10:43 AM

Just moved to new york and was listening to the am radio show (ED LOver's)...they all commented on the JZ issue and were calling Letravel soft cause he had to get his BIG brother Jay Z incolved !! thought that was funny

Posted by: DC IN NYC | April 29, 2008 11:04 AM

Just moved to new york and was listening to the am radio show (ED LOver's)...they all commented on the JZ issue and were calling Letravel soft cause he had to get his BIG brother Jay Z incolved !! thought that was funny

Posted by: DC IN NYC | April 29, 2008 11:04 AM

I have little respect for your team, although Jamison seems to be a class act. Stevenson is an embarrassment to the entire NBA, and Gilbert is hurting your team right now. Haywood is a 7' wuss trying to play the 'enforcer' role, and 'Tough Juice' (AKA the dumbest nickname ever) has been, for the most part, pretty watered down. Your coach has no game plan, except to try to transform your team into something that they aren't.

I really think the Wizards would have had a shot at beating the cavs if they would have kept their mouths shut and played up-tempo rather than trash talk and slowing the game down with all of the hard fouls. LeBron feeds off of adversity, and Stevenson calling him out and the Wiz continuing to make stupid comments that they can't back up has given James all kinds of fuel.

"Dumbest Team ever" -- what more can be said?? Charles was RIGHT ON

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:05 AM

ESPN and Plain Dealer all seem to think that this trash talk started with Stevenson saying "overrated". No one wants to do their job and find out exactly what triple-x comment James said to his team mates about Stevenson before the last regular season last game. Which caused James and Stevenson to jaw at each other the whole game BEFORE the overrated comment. Lazy reporters! They believe James when he said "I don't know Stevenson", so then why comment on his play, why was Stevenson so mad about it? James seems to be a pussy, not man enough to man up to what he said. Clever man, he has won the psych war, gotten into Stevenson and the Wizards heads. Making sure this stupid "rivalry" affects their games and it sure has affected DS with foolish gestures and remarks.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:05 AM

anon - Lebron James is allowed to say anything he wants, and everyone in the NBA business believes him. He's a great player who knows how to manipulate the press. That's just the way it is. The Wizards will just have to do their talking with the round object.

Posted by: LeTravel Janes | April 29, 2008 11:08 AM

Hey Colin at 10:20 . . .

"The Celtics are clearly a better team than the Cavs -- CLEARLY -"

Really? Thought you might want to know that the Cavs went 2-2 with Boston this season, 2-1 when LeBron played. The Celtics, if they can make it, are the Cavs' next victim.

And your team is out of the playoffs with a crappy draft pick . . . LOL!

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:10 AM

DS is clearly a bonehead for making the outrageous accusation that Lebron is overrated and then kept fanning the flames with Soulja Boy and Jay Z. It's a fight he can't win.

Given all that, I'm shocked to see that most of DS's teammates have been rather silent about the issue, excluding BTH. Even Gilby has shut his mouth about the issue because he knows he doesn't want to get drawn into it further. He has nothing to gain from it.

What shocks me most is that of all people, Caron shouldn't be attending Lebron's party, and most importantly, there's no need for Caron to be heaping any more praise on Lebron as Lebron's ego is already in the stratosphere.

Look at Isiah. He and his Bad Boys marched off the court without even acknowledging the Bulls after their defeat.

A "no comment" from Caron would better suffice.

------------------------------------------

"He's one of the top two or three players in the league, hands down."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/27/AR2008042701946.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 11:13 AM

Hey DC Man88 . . . .

Caron WAS disrespecting LeBron with that comment . . .

"He's one of the top two or three players in the league, hands down."

LeBron is clearly THE best player in the NBA

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:16 AM

You know, the thing that has me wondering and scratching my head is this; Why in the world did EJ allow this to carry on through out the series. I said at the beginning that all of this jawjacking was going to make the Wiz loose focus and now here we are at a crucial point in game 5 and no stopgap measure has been put down on the Wiz players to shut up! Jeeze! Does EJ have any control over his players! I am sure he saw the gestures made by Deshawn earlier in the game before that crucial foul. Why didn't he bench him and tell him that there is no time for that BS. I love EJ to death but I don't think he has the Kahoonas to REALLY coach this team and that's a shame. I was beginning to believe that it was possible to pull off game five but with this continuous distractions the team has I wouldn't be surprised if we were blown out. I am really disgusted by this whole load of crap and feel either EJ or EG should have gotten to the players earlier on and let them know that all of these off the court antics were not going to be tolerated. And any offenders would be dealt with swiftly!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:21 AM

DS is clearly a bonehead for making the outrageous accusation that Lebron is overrated and then kept fanning the flames with Soulja Boy and Jay Z. It's a fight he can't win.

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It was James who mentioned Soulja Boy and Jay Z, not Stevenson. He fanned the flames, and he knew exactly what he was doing. Whether he is a whiner or not, he clearly thought this out, and used his brains to out-psych Stevenson.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:22 AM

Nope. You're wrong Cleve fan. LeBron is not nearly the defensive player that Kobe is. LeBron is perhaps the most unstoppable player offensively and you could make a damn good case for Kobe here, too. Until he excels on BOTH ends of the court, back up off his fellas and see him for what he is. A great offensive talent, a great passer and an average defender.

Posted by: mark | April 29, 2008 11:24 AM

Eddie Jordan has said in the past it is not his job to censor the players, and the Washington organization has never prevented its players from saying what they think. But it is Eddie Jordan's job to win the game, please tell the guys to shut up and play ball. There will be enough time to talk AFTER the playoffs win or lose.

Posted by: rgz | April 29, 2008 11:25 AM

Let me say this:
I do not hate the Wizards -- in fact, I think they have a very good team. I was VERY concerned about the Cavs playing them again in Round 1, because Washington is very talented.

What has upset me, not only about this series, but the Playoffs collectively, has been the playground atmosphere and the lack of enforcing discipline on flagrant fouls. As a Cavs' fan, I certainly thought that Haywood's shove of LeBron was dirty, but it was nothing like Jason Kidd's foul on Pargo! Kidd even followed through on his shove in the back of the head. If Kidd didn't get suspended for THAT, I doubt that the play will clean up anytime soon. It will be interesting to see what happens as a result of that Celtics/Hawks game last night . . . .

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:30 AM

Hey Mark -- I understand your point about Kobe vs. LeBron's D

Thing is, if you would take Kobe & LeBron and switch them (even before the Lakers stole Gasol), the Lakers would be even better, and the Cavaliers would take a few steps back. And that is without taking into consideration that Kobe most likely would cry and demand a trade. Kobe's defense may be better than LeBron's, but LeBron's Attitude and Leadership are much, much greater than Kobe's.

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:36 AM

Anyways, the Season is over for the Washington Wizards tomorrow night.

Enjoy your summer . . . .

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:38 AM

Anybody else think that Lebron's initial comments to Drew Gooden had ANYTHING to do with statutory rape and Deshawn's game resembling that of a fourteen year old girl?

I mean, c'mon. That's the ONLY thing Declown has NOT talked about. Is it because he is the better man? Clearly not.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | April 29, 2008 12:03 PM

stupid cavs fans stay off our message board you're the lamest fans from the lamest city and you all have lame jebron jerseys. who does he think he is wearing Jordan's jersey. the kid is clearly an idiot, he clearly has no class, and you might consider pawning your jersey now before they aren't worth anything because he is OPTING OUT to be closer to his delusional butt buddy jay-z, the most overrated rapper ever. everyone hates you all including jebron

Posted by: prescrunk | April 29, 2008 12:06 PM

thanks for voting for Bush again in 04 too Ohio

Posted by: prescrunk | April 29, 2008 12:07 PM

What??!!?? Let's not start the speculation,please let's not.

We all really just need to let this suff die and get ready for the game tomorrow. Enough is enough. Everything thing that needed to be said from either side has been said a gazillion times already. Can't we all just get along?!!?? Let's Play Ball!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:08 PM

Lebron needs a jumper and some D (not to mention a few rings) to be compared to Kobe in my book. Kobe needs at least 1-2 more rings to get up there with Mike.

Kobe is a better passer, jump shooter, three point shooter, slasher, scorer, preimeter defender.

Lebron is a better team player. I'll give you that, although Kobe has assisted on a fair amount of buzzer beater attempts in his playoff career. Kobe has however (but not so much now since the Pau trade) shown the tendency to try and win games on his own if his teammates aren't hitting. Bron will still make that pass.

The only area where Lebron's game parallels Kobe's is driving to the basket. He's unstoppable in that regard (but so is kobe), partly due to his size and partly due to his command of the travel... Due to his size and strength (and his command of the 3-gap rush)I give him a slight advantage over Kobe.

Lebron has the potential to be the greatest player ever. But he needs at least 6 rings to be considered by me the best ever. If he only gets 2-3 rings (wow did I just say ONLY 2-3NBA championships??? Mike set a high bar), he's definitely top 10 all time in my book.

Posted by: jones-y | April 29, 2008 12:09 PM

prescrunk, are you crying? Sounds like it.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | April 29, 2008 12:10 PM

Why is it that the people are patting Haywood on the back for saying shut up and play basketball when in fact he was talking crap to the media by even saying that?

Don't you have to walk the walk before you can tell someone else to play ball?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:11 PM

prescrunk, i dont like you but we do agree on one thing. Bush

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:11 PM

Jim Rome is killing the Wizards right now on the radio

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:12 PM

I get so agitated because you are all so tactless and dense and stupid.

Posted by: prescrunk | April 29, 2008 12:13 PM

Tune in, he just gave an excerpt right now, will discuss the Wizards and Haywood's mouth during the show

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:14 PM

The reason this whole thing started was because the Wiz can't outplay LeBron in basketball. Sure they might be able to beat the Cavs if they played it straight. But that isn't what they've chosen to do. They've chosen to try to be the bully on the block. Sure, playoff basketball is more physical, but you guys kid yourself if you think that some of these fouls are just run of the mill playoff fouls.

In fact, it is the Wiz that need to shut up and play basketball. LeBron, for the most part has been doing that. Which is why he has the 3-1 lead.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:15 PM

Jim Rome is killing the Wizards right now on the radio

Tune in, he just gave an excerpt right now, will discuss the Wizards and Haywood's mouth during the show

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:16 PM

So, you ARE crying, prescrunk?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:19 PM

I don't think that Stevenson deserved to be fined for his gesture but the Wizards need to regain their focus on basketball and block out all of this other mess. Jay-Z making that lame diss tape really brought all of this to ridiculous proportions.

Shrug it off Wiz and get a big win in Cleveland Wednesday night!

Posted by: nate | April 29, 2008 12:22 PM

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else. ~Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:28 PM

"Hey DC Man88 . . . .

Caron WAS disrespecting LeBron with that comment . . .

"He's one of the top two or three players in the league, hands down."

LeBron is clearly THE best player in the NBA

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:16 AM '

Ouch. Clearly biased, but still, ouch.

Funny tho, although I will put my money on Kobe as being the best player, as he plays in the more competitive West.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 12:53 PM

Thank you Jim Rome, our point exactly, why are these losers still talking. Haywood, shut your fat mouth up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:57 PM

LeBron is the manufactured media darling, so it's not a surprise to see Rome or anyone else take his side. All of these talking heads are on the air for one reason...they aren't good enough to actually play the game. Subsequently, a guy like Jim Rome has no more credibility in my opinion that folks on this blog.
One more obeservation about analysts...Am I the only one who notices that kenny Smith always takes sides and no matter what, he never deviates even during his halftime analysis. For example, he kept talking up the Celtics and talking about how they needed to keep doing what they were doing to win the game. Problem is they were down 3 at halftime. He never once mentioned Atlanta. Same thing happened during the Wiz-Cavs game that the Wizards won. We were up by 16 at the half yet he showed a bunch of Cav clips.
My point is that we should take what those dudes say with pound of salt. Most of them know about as much as we do. They just have better seats.

Posted by: mark | April 29, 2008 1:07 PM

Cleveland fans are missing the point. All wizards fans acknowledge that the team has been running their mouths and should shut up and play. The real issue is that it's offensive to hear Lebron and the Cavs claiming that they are trying to hurt him. This is just absurd. Tune into any other NBA playoff game and you will see the same degree of hard fouls. C'mon be real - Look at Lebrons Free throw percentage - When he gets close to the rim - you foul - and if you dont foul hard - it's And 1. It's strategy - not trying to injure him. He better get used to it because it's going to continue as the playoffs go on. Mike Brown crediting Lebron for keeping his composure is a joke and in fact discredits Lebron. Thus, I think Haywood's comments had a lot of merit - obviously he should shut up - but he is just saying what everyone else in the league thinks.

Posted by: Kevin Duckworth | April 29, 2008 1:11 PM

Anyways, the Season is over for the Washington Wizards tomorrow night.

Enjoy your summer . . . .

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:38 AM

Put your money where your mouth is.

Wiz will win games 5, 6, and 7.

You heard it hear first.

Posted by: Barno | April 29, 2008 1:12 PM

DS most hated man in Cleveland or even close? No way. He is seen as a clown here, a joke with a Smith Brothers cough drop beard. Now if is dumb/crazy enough to take this to another level on Wednesday, then we'll have to reseed that list.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 29, 2008 1:17 PM

Mark, it may be true but

Fact: Arenas called out Cavs in blog before series

Fact: Stevenson calls LeBron overrated in public setting.

Fact: Haywood calling LeBron out as a crybaby in public

Fact: Cavs up 3 games to 1

Fact: Cavs put Wizards out of playoffs yearly

Media's point. Wizards have no business addressing Cavs or LeBron. That is very legit so if you cant see that you are just as bad as your players.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:18 PM

Kevin,

You need to read more of the blogs. Your fans are missing the point. You boasted too soon. DeShawn is an ass. And you can not honestly tell me that the foul Haywood put on LeBron while in the air was clean. Come on man. Seriously. And that last one by DeShawn was excessive too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:22 PM

"There is an alleged curse on the city of Cleveland, Ohio that prevents them from winning a major sports championship. To this date, it has been arguably the biggest sports championship drought in any U.S. city. The last Cleveland title came in 1964 when the Browns won the NFL Championship. The Cleveland Indians last won the World Series in 1948 and the Cleveland Cavaliers have never won the NBA Finals, most recently losing in 2007 to the San Antonio Spurs. Some of their most infamous failures have been dubbed a title, often with a single word preceded by an ominous "The." Amongst locals and even sports fans in general, The Catch, Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble, and The Shot all evoke images of Cleveland sports futility. Less famous outside of Cleveland, Game 7 of the 1997 World Series, is commonly referred to as The Error (briefly known as The Mesa).

"Red Right 88 does not share the nomenclature, but the heartache is the same.

"The Cavaliers' recent loss to the San Antonio Spurs was not due to a single play or misplay but simply a superior opponent, yet the sting of the loss still resonates in a city searching for its first major championship since 1964.

"Only time will tell if the 2007 American League Championship Series will be reduced to either "The Collapse"[5] (for the series loss to the Boston Red Sox, despite being up three games to one) or "The Stop Sign" (due to Kenny Lofton being held up by third base coach Joel Skinner, as he likely would have scored the tying run in the late innings of Game 7) in Cleveland folklore.
Cleveland's misery is so detailed, that in 2004, ESPN named Cleveland the most tortured sports city.

"The cause for Cleveland's misery is not 100% agreed upon, although some trace it to either Rocky Colavito's departure to the Detroit Tigers in 1960, or Jim Brown's stunning retirement from the NFL in 1965 to produce the World War II film The Dirty Dozen."


Posted by: Pity the Cleveland Fans | April 29, 2008 1:25 PM

Maybe we Washington fans should be a little more sympathetic toward the Cavs fans frothing at the mouth on this board. Cleveland sports teams have been so pathetic that there are actually web sites of devoted Cleveland sports fans that are dedicated to chronicling the Cleveland Sports Curse:

http://www.clevelandsportscurse.com/

These guys have no accomplishments to point to. This is as good as it gets for them. That's why they're on here talkin' like they've just won something more than a Game 4 against the 5th seed of the Leastern Conference.

Posted by: Pity the fools | April 29, 2008 1:27 PM


They even make videos about the Cleveland Curse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNq_ljwM6o

The Cleveland Curse

It's kinda funny, the first couple minutes of this YouTube video. You see all the ghosts from Cleveland sports past, all the famous losses that have become our legend -- The Catch, The Drive, The Shot, etc. You know, our mythology.

But the thing is, it just won't end. And about three minutes in something grabs your heart and just squeezes hard. Maybe it's the picture of Art Modell. Maybe it's Big Dawg leaving an empty Browns stadium -- the end of innocence in Cleveland sports. Maybe it's the picture of Ray Lewis holding up the newspaper that says "Ravens win Super Bowl", since they are the REAL Browns, and you know that Art got over once and for all and there's nothing you can do about it.

By the fourth minute you're shaking and ready to punch the computer screen. That's when our players all leave, like they're deserting a sinking ship. Then we're reminded of last year's Indians abrupt choke. And there's not even an Indians game to go lose yourself in, because even though they just beat John Lackey, who had thrown 30+ scoreless innings before the Tribe got to him, it means about as much as a free haircut does to a bald man. Still 10 games under, still 20 games out, still waiting for the Browns to start training camp with the quarterback situation ranked worst in the league and a team expected to finish last.

God hates Cleveland sports so much that even 18-year-olds in Ashtabula know everything there is to know about heartbreak, despite not being around most of this sadness. That's who made this montage. God hates Cleveland sports so much that He's made sure you can go to YouTube, search "Cleveland", and be reminded of His hatred by people who were in middle school when Art Modell moved the Browns. God hates Cleveland sports so much that in this lost Indians summer, with nothing but unispired baseball to watch, we can't even escape into our glorious past and remember the good times.

Posted by: Cleveland Losers | April 29, 2008 1:28 PM

Hey Prescrunk, do you own Wizards jerseys?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:28 PM

They will make a video soon with the "Wizards Curse" featuring the Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:32 PM

Look at that video above with "the ass" stevenson, look at that score on the bottom of the screen. Ass

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:33 PM

Red Right 88 was the first which is why it's name is dissimilar to the others. Otherwise it'd be known as the interception or something like that.

Posted by: TheOUTLAW | April 29, 2008 1:35 PM

I love the whining. This is so...so much like Cleveland when we lost to the Bulls every year. Every time we played them, we changed our style of play to focus on Jordan. That is how we kept losing to him and now, LeBron is DC's personal "Groundhog's Day."

The players wanted the Cavs because they thought this would be the year for the Wiz to finally "crown" the King. Unfortunately, there is only one person to blame...Eddie Jordan. Your coach wanted to play the "punish LeBron" gameplan and it has not worked. When you played "Wizards" basketball (running and swarming on defense), they were able to neutralize the Cavs. But to become the 21st century version of the Bad Boys, it is evident the Wizards are not capable of doing both.

I guess it is "wait til next year" time for the Wizards.

Posted by: A Honest Cleveland Fan | April 29, 2008 1:37 PM

Is there an online transcript anywhere of Rome's comments?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 1:41 PM

"Most hated man in Cleveland"? A little projection there, perhaps?

Deshawn Stevenson has made himself a punchline with Cavs fans, nothing more. If he wants to be hated, he'll have to win something first.

Posted by: Clevelander | April 29, 2008 1:43 PM

Let recount the dirtly plays by the Cavs during the regular season and playoff:

Regular season:

Z pushes AD while he is airborne for a dunk at the end of the 1st half, no foul is called, and the league office doesn't review the play. AD plays rest of the season with torn liagament in his wrist.

Pavlovic takes cheap shot at Caron in the Wizards home game in March which causes him to sufer sprained wrist with bone chips in his 1st game back. No action by refs or by the league office.

Playoffs:

LeBron blatantly elbows Blatche in the jaw after a whistle and no action is taken.

Verajao tries to clothes line Blatche in Game 2, gets Flagrant One foul, but stays in the game.

Later in Game 2, West pushes AD while airborne after Heywood was ejected for a similar foul on LeTravel. A regular 2-shot foul is called but no flagrant foul or ejection is forthcoming.

THE DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THE OFFICIATING IS SICKENING AND IS LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ESCALATION DURING THE SERIES.

No one is talking about it, but GA was clearly pushed on his bank shot that tied the game at 97 in Game 4. If LeBron was even touched on a drive, it would have been a 2-shot foul. Wizards a partly to blame by calling attention to themselves, particularly Stevenson, but what about the taunting by that idiot Damon James in Game 3?

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 29, 2008 1:43 PM

I know this link has nothing to do with basketball, but it is an inspirational pre-game speech that Tashard Choice of Georgia Tech gave to his team, before playing Clemson. This speech almost had me pulling out my helmet. It is a speech that CB needs to give to the team prior to game 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAOkxgvboPk

Posted by: bullets_0000 | April 29, 2008 1:44 PM

dun dun dun dun, blow the whistle.
Please have respect like your talking to your mom

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

I can't believe how much you guys whine about the perceived disparity in refereeing. Frankly I thought you guys got away with murder in the games you played at home.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Your coach wanted to play the "punish LeBron" gameplan and it has not worked. When you played "Wizards" basketball (running and swarming on defense), they were able to neutralize the Cavs. But to become the 21st century version of the Bad Boys, it is evident the Wizards are not capable of doing both.

I guess it is "wait til next year" time for the Wizards.

Posted by: A Honest Cleveland Fan | April 29, 2008 1:37 PM

Instructions were clearly to not allow easy cheap layups. That has been EJ's mantra the whole season. For all opponents.

The words "punish Lebron" were not used. As everyone knows the Wizards are far form behaving like the Pistons Bad Boys. Why do you have to keep making up these statements?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:59 PM

I can't believe how much you guys whine about the perceived disparity in refereeing. Frankly I thought you guys got away with murder in the games you played at home.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Because it's true.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:00 PM

I'd say the Wiz cheap shots have been responsible for the escalation in play. Sure there was the uncalled elbow that Blatche threw that necessitated a response by LeBron that also got uncalled. But other than that it really has been the Wiz that started all the cheap shots.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:03 PM

hatin is only going to make him spend the night out of spite with the chick you been dating.....dun dun dun dun du dun

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:03 PM

You need to read more of the blogs. Your fans are missing the point. You boasted too soon. DeShawn is an ass. And you can not honestly tell me that the foul Haywood put on LeBron while in the air was clean. Come on man. Seriously. And that last one by DeShawn was excessive too.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 1:22 PM

Point taken and Haywood paid for it with a flagrant 2, but no Cleveland fan has acknowledged how dirty their team really plays. To you Varejao plays clean, West plays clean (after tripping Arenas twice), James plays clean after intentionally elbowing Blatche in the jaw. Nor have you acknowledged the clothesline James put on Daniels who had slipped to the floor in the 3rd game. He slipped again after James hit him. Clearly, James is a saint to all the Cleveland folks.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:04 PM

Kevin,

You need to read more of the blogs. Your fans are missing the point. You boasted too soon. DeShawn is an ass. And you can not honestly tell me that the foul Haywood put on LeBron while in the air was clean. Come on man. Seriously. And that last one by DeShawn was excessive too.
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A flagrant foul is not dirty. It's a hard foul to stop an easy bucket. Like I said every team in the NBA will take their chances with Lebron on the free throw line as opposed to an easy two. The caveat is that you have to actually foul him or else it defeats the purpose of the strategy - he will get an And 1 if it's sough. This is good clean playoff basketball. Lebron acts like he is the first guy in the NBA to ever get fouled hard in the playoffs - If you can't accept this - you are oblivious and have no understanding of the game of baskebtall. Aside from that, I agree with your fan base on everything else. The wizards should shut up - the games have been called pretty evenly. Oh yeah - when you come at me, please say the Duckworth - I averaged 9.0 RPG for my career.

Posted by: Kevin Duckworth | April 29, 2008 2:06 PM

we aint in same league you can lie to yourself but you cant lie to me......i dont even know yall names, too big for the rap LeBron James..........know the difference between a King and a pawn......Blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:06 PM

The reason this whole thing started was because the Wiz can't outplay LeBron in basketball.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 12:15 PM
The reason this thing started was that Lebron James said a very derogatory remark after the third regular season game in the Cavaliers locker room. He has never acknowledged what he said.

As a result, Stevenson was jawing at James the whole 4th game, and James was jawing back. After the game, Stevenson made his overrated remark - clearly in anger at James (who claims he does not know Stevenson, then why jaw at him the whole game, why insult him prior to the game?).
Got it?
Go ask pretty boy James what he said - he will claim amnesia,as he already claimed to the press.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:09 PM

Kev:

Listen, I will give you the elbow by LeBron but not anything else. And he was responding to what was done to him. You are right, you have to stop him from making the basket when fouling but again. The foul by Haywood was over top. Now, blow the whistle.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:10 PM

The difference in what LeBron said was that it was in the locker room to his teammates. That is different. "The ass" took it public. He can say what he wants to his team.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:12 PM

P.S. - Citing to more of the "blogs" just lends your point to the self-fulfilling prophecy that it is. "The wizards are dirty" The media says it alot, lebron says it, the partisan cleveland fan base says it, It must be true...Right?

Posted by: Kevin Duckworth | April 29, 2008 2:13 PM

He did not claim amnesia. He said that he called out Stevenson's game to his teammates and said that the Wizards will not go far in the playoffs. And he said it to his teammates behind closed doors. Whats wrong with that? And what did he lie about?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:15 PM

Because the Cleveland boys can't be bothered to read the rest of WaPo.

from Mike Wise column yesterday
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/26/AR2008042602240_2.html

The genesis of this beef, according to DeShawn, is all on LeBron. He's the one, DeShawn said, who trashed Stevenson and the Wizards within earshot of Drew Gooden, a former Cavaliers player who happens to Stevenson's best friend in the league from their days together in Orlando.

"He thought it wasn't going to get back to me," Stevenson said. "He said something about my game. He said I'm getting a lot of hype this year, that he doesn't think I'm the good player I am and basically that I suck, our team sucks and we're not going anywhere. I took offense to that. If LeBron James never said that comment, we wouldn't have the rivalry we have right now."

For his part, LeBron admits he's called Stevenson's game into question but said he's never gotten personal, adding, "I don't know DeShawn.

"Look, I didn't say what I said for fame," Stevenson said. "I've been in this league eight years. I said what I said because I have a sense of pride and I don't think anyone should be bashing me and my team like that."

"When I had Soulja Boy here, it was on the court. It was nothing disrespecting him or his family or even foul language. So I'm boycotting Love. Everybody on our team, we're boycotting Love and Park. We're not going no more. But I appreciate Jay-Z for giving me the shout out."

Player insults. Economic sanctions. More gum-flapping. And Soulja Boy, oh!

What plotlines. What a series.

Posted by: subplots to the game | April 29, 2008 2:18 PM

It really doesn't matter if LeBron said something to his teammates in the lockerroom. Fact is it's been the Wiz talking crap all along to the media.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:23 PM

Again, where is it that LeBron lied in the whole situation. He was right, they arent going anywhere. Drew started the mess because he was traded

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:24 PM

Thats just it, he can say what the hell he wants to to his teammates in the locker room. I am sure there have been much worse said in all locker rooms. The Wiz said it in public to get revenge and now look like clowns.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:26 PM

Hey DC Man88 . . . .

Caron WAS disrespecting LeBron with that comment . . .

"He's one of the top two or three players in the league, hands down."

LeBron is clearly THE best player in the NBA

Posted by: B'Bye, Wiz! | April 29, 2008 11:16 AM

Ha! Kobe is still the best. He led his team to a No. 1 finish in the West, so he is the best player in the league.

And, oh yeah, B'Bye Wiz, the C's are clearly better than the Cavs. Look at the records. You'll notice the Wizards are 3-1 against Boston, but I would still say Boston is a far superior team. Head-to-head records are nice, and they give you hope, but Boston is better. Would the Wizards have beaten Boston in a second-round match up? Probably not. I can admit that. The Cavs will get creamed.

Posted by: Colin | April 29, 2008 2:27 PM

I have faith. Wizards in 7!@!!!!

Posted by: Stick | April 29, 2008 2:27 PM

I bet Jamison and Butler privately cant wait to get away from the rest of those clowns. At least to this point they have just come out and attempted to play basketball.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:28 PM

Whats wrong with that? And what did he lie about?

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 2:15 PM
James claimed he did not say anything disrespectful and besides he does not know Stevenson.
With your twisted logic then Stevenson calling James is also OK by you. Similarly because Stevenson does not know James. James thought Stevenson has gotten hype this year. And Stevenson called James overrated. He did not lie, he truly felt James is overrated (but did not say he sucks). Read the definition, in no dictionary is this considered a racial, sexual, or whatever insult. On the other hand, go ask him James what word he used when he talked about Stevenson and the Wizards, I can pretty much bet you it was something you will not repeat to your children.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:29 PM

Do you mean those same Celtics that can't seem to put away the sub 500 Hawks? Those Celts?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:30 PM

HELLO, CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE LEBRON WAS WRONG TO SAY WHAT HE SAID?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:30 PM

he said it in confidence to his teammates man. You obvioulsy never played a sport. If Drew Gooden would not have been traded you never would have known what LeBron said. Thats the difference. Wizards are not going anywhere. Who is overrated, Lebron vs. 3 all stars- you tell me?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:34 PM

I guess the Wiz better acquire another "all star". Now, blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:38 PM

Correction, it has been Deshawn doing the talking. Not the whole Wiz team unless I missed something. Where have you read or heard that anyone other than Deshawn talking smack. Point me to it. Gil said what he felt in his blog which even Lebron said that was just Gil being Gil. But it was no disrespect to the team . He said they wanted to play Cleveland for their own reasons. As for the rest of the Wiz, not a peep out of anyone other than Haywood saying that Lebron whined. (which everyone knows) Other than Deshaw no one has said a thing to the media. Therefore, do not say the Wiz in general. I am getting tired of the media trashing our team. They have been nothing but honorable the whole season. Period. Deshawn is the one making the Wiz look foolish.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:40 PM

Lebron SAID that it was Gil being Gil, believe me, you dont call the Cavs out like that publically in a blog. And Haywood is talking smack, now blow the whistle.

Posted by: Blow the whistle | April 29, 2008 2:45 PM

Who cares? About any of this sh1t, really. Ya'll act like you don't eat tomorrow if the wiz lose, or you get a raise if the Cavs win.

Its entertainment folks. Be entertained.

And oh yeah, wiz in 7.

Posted by: jones-y | April 29, 2008 2:47 PM

i agree jones-y. i am also entertained by how mad Wiz fans are. Now, blow the whistle

Posted by: Blow the whistle | April 29, 2008 2:51 PM

What ever! This getting tiring now. I'm outtie!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

Cleveland fans are missing the point. All wizards fans acknowledge that the team has been running their mouths and should shut up and play. The real issue is that it's offensive to hear Lebron and the Cavs claiming that they are trying to hurt him. This is just absurd. Tune into any other NBA playoff game and you will see the same degree of hard fouls. C'mon be real - Look at Lebrons Free throw percentage - When he gets close to the rim - you foul - and if you dont foul hard - it's And 1. It's strategy - not trying to injure him. He better get used to it because it's going to continue as the playoffs go on. Mike Brown crediting Lebron for keeping his composure is a joke and in fact discredits Lebron. Thus, I think Haywood's comments had a lot of merit - obviously he should shut up - but he is just saying what everyone else in the league thinks.


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Funny,

LeBron has played in what? 8 different playoff match-ups, but this is the first he said they are trying to hurt him.

I wonder why? Oh, because they are.

Thug life!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:08 PM

Let recount the dirtly plays by the Cavs during the regular season and playoff:

Regular season:

Z pushes AD while he is airborne for a dunk at the end of the 1st half, no foul is called, and the league office doesn't review the play. AD plays rest of the season with torn liagament in his wrist.

Pavlovic takes cheap shot at Caron in the Wizards home game in March which causes him to sufer sprained wrist with bone chips in his 1st game back. No action by refs or by the league office.

Playoffs:

LeBron blatantly elbows Blatche in the jaw after a whistle and no action is taken.

Verajao tries to clothes line Blatche in Game 2, gets Flagrant One foul, but stays in the game.

Later in Game 2, West pushes AD while airborne after Heywood was ejected for a similar foul on LeTravel. A regular 2-shot foul is called but no flagrant foul or ejection is forthcoming.

THE DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THE OFFICIATING IS SICKENING AND IS LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ESCALATION DURING THE SERIES.

No one is talking about it, but GA was clearly pushed on his bank shot that tied the game at 97 in Game 4. If LeBron was even touched on a drive, it would have been a 2-shot foul. Wizards a partly to blame by calling attention to themselves, particularly Stevenson, but what about the taunting by that idiot Damon James in Game 3?


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Noone is talking about it because delusional Wizards fans love to compare the 2. The media knows the Wiz are thugs and out to hurt LeBron.

It is as simple as that. The only people who don't admit it are Wiz fans.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:15 PM

Noone is talking about it because delusional Wizards fans love to compare the 2. The media knows the Wiz are thugs and out to hurt LeBron.

It is as simple as that. The only people who don't admit it are Wiz fans
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I guarantee you if you ask anybody in the NBA or who has played in the NBA they would correct you. Listen to Magic, Kenny, and Chuck talk about the playoffs on the halftime shows. Get a clue. Lebron got fouled just as hard against the Pistons last year.

Posted by: Johnny Dakota | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

Noone is talking about it because delusional Wizards fans love to compare the 2. The media knows the Wiz are thugs and out to hurt LeBron.

It is as simple as that. The only people who don't admit it are Wiz fans
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I guarantee you if you ask anybody in the NBA or who has played in the NBA they would correct you. Listen to Magic, Kenny, and Chuck talk about the playoffs on the halftime shows. Get a clue. Lebron got fouled just as hard against the Pistons last year.

Posted by: Johnny Dakota | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

Hopefully the Cavs will end this series sooner rather than later. The Wizards can't hang so they resort to non-stop chatter as a distraction from their poor play.

I'm sure there will be much wailing and teeth gnashing after the series about how the Wiz got the shaft from officials. News flash: NBA officiating is bad and gets even worse during the playoffs. Both teams have to live with it and will likely each receive an even number of bad/good calls.

I don't mind the hard fouls as they are expected in the playoffs. LBJ should take his medicine and just be happy he is walking off the court a winner.

Posted by: Frank | April 29, 2008 4:33 PM

Hopefully the Cavs will end this series sooner rather than later. The Wizards can't hang so they resort to non-stop chatter as a distraction from their poor play.

I'm sure there will be much wailing and teeth gnashing after the series about how the Wiz got the shaft from officials. News flash: NBA officiating is bad and gets even worse during the playoffs. Both teams have to live with it and will likely each receive an even number of bad/good calls.

I don't mind the hard fouls as they are expected in the playoffs. LBJ should take his medicine and just be happy he is walking off the court a winner.

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I just hope it ends soon so that LeBron doesnt get stabbed or something.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

I guarantee you if you ask anybody in the NBA or who has played in the NBA they would correct you. Listen to Magic, Kenny, and Chuck talk about the playoffs on the halftime shows. Get a clue. Lebron got fouled just as hard against the Pistons last year.


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I have seen virtually every Cavs game for the last 8 years. I know how LeBron got fouled by Detroit last year. Detroit wasnt a group of cheap shotting thugs (at least last year they werent).

I don't need analysts to tell me that the Wiz are gunning for LeBron.

The saddest part is that many Wiz fans and players alike would probably be happy if LeBron got seriously injured.

Strange world we live in.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:04 PM

There won't be any b!tching if the Wiz lose. However, there will be non-stop complaing and whining from all the Cav fans next series about how LeBron is still getting beat up, etc.... Are Cleveland fans so insecure that they don't think a 6'9 260 man can take a push or a smack on the head? Take your punishment like a man. LeBron is soft. "They're trying to hurt me" Waaaaaa, what a pansy. He's bad, but Cav fans are worse, "stop hitting him, basketball is a noncontact sport, you are going to hurt our 6'9 260 built like a truck franchise player." You can't have it both ways Cleveland, he's either the indestructible man you claim him to be, or the whiny little girl who he appears to be in public.

Posted by: I got your whistle | April 29, 2008 5:08 PM

YOU WIZARDS FANS ARE ALL DUMB!!!THEY WILL NEVER WIN, THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL,EXPERIENCE,CONFIDENCE,MATURITY,DEFENSE OR WHATEVER ELSE IS NEEDED TO WIN, THEY JUST TALK TRASH, IM NOT A CAVS FAN BUT THE WIZ XCEPT FOR CARON AND SOME OF THE WHITE BOYS ARE A BUNCH OF WANNABE THUGS......

Posted by: Solja Boy | April 29, 2008 6:23 PM

BTW, IF YOU GUYS HAD LEBRON PLAYING IN WASHINGTON, YOU WOULD BE CRYING AS WELL!! BTW, I'M A HEAT FAN AND I KNOW THEY STUNK THIS YEAR BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN PICK IT UP IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND BEAT UP ON THE WIZARDS ONCE AGAIN, MAYBE THIS TIME WE'LL BEAT OUR OWN RECORD OF 20 STRAIGHT VICTORIES INCLUDING 8 IN A ROW IN THE PLAYOFFS!

Posted by: Solja Boy | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

Its amusing that Deshawns team is getting physically and mentally beat by a overated
Lebron. I hope the coach can get some control over the stupid comments made by a couple of role players on a perennially underachieving team.Look for wholesale changes next year unless your owner doesn't mind being represented by a couple of idiots. Nice team identity. Good luck next game look to be embarrased out of the arena.Im sure your official spokesmodels Stevenson and Heywood will have some more smart things to say but no one will care.

Posted by: Akron | April 29, 2008 8:05 PM

I think the Cleveland fans have officially taken over this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM

Hey Wizards fans!
Enjoy the last day of your season!

LOL!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: B'Bye Wiz! | April 30, 2008 5:40 AM

I'm a Cleveland fan and I liked the Wizards coming in to game 1. I thought Haywood, Gilbert, Daniels, Jamison were great, both as players and in their mannerism. I didn't think we had a chance given our last minute trades. I'm rather disappointed though in the highlight the media has given all the trash talk. I still think it's inconsistent with Haywood's outword appearance to be portrayed as a thug. I want Cleveland to win naturally and I think the officials are making the calls to keep a reign on the behavior of all our players and I don't think the games are rougher than the ones played in the west. Lebron is not overrated and I don't think the Wiz fans believe he is. Somehow, the dice is falling in our favor :-)

Posted by: cleveland gal | April 30, 2008 12:15 PM

Please just blow up the team. Trade Arenas, Blatche and Stevenson. Draft a true point guard. Trade for a power forward that rebounds and shows toughness. He can help Haywood. Re-sign Jamison as a backup. If he balks at that role, let him walk. Butler and Haywood are the only sure keepers. At least they don't back down and have some heart.

Posted by: Wiz Manic | April 30, 2008 2:09 PM

deshawn stevenson is a monster n ya cavs fans r jus hated.

get dis in ur mind

LEBRON JAMES IS OVERRATED N DA BIGEST BALL HOG EVa

Posted by: Daniel | April 30, 2008 9:36 PM

I wish I got the chance to smack LeTravel upside his head.

do it again!

Posted by: wish it was me | May 1, 2008 8:10 AM

This series allowed me to realize why I have lost interest in the NBA. There is too much politics involved. And the Cavs are the better team. They are the defending eastern conference champs. The Wizards lost because they don't have the same calibur players.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 9:44 PM

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