Lottery winners and losers (we think)

Whether some struggling franchise put itself in position to land the next Kobe Bryant or the next Kwame Brown remains to be seen but here is what we do know about the latest installment of the NBA draft lottery: The Chicago Bulls, who came away with the number one overall pick thanks to the basketball gods who run the ping pong balls, will have the joy of choosing between Memphis point guard Derrick Rose and Kansas State manchild Michael Beasley.
Remember one thing: Rose is from Chicago.

Here's a prediction on the top five picks:

1. Bulls: Derrick Rose (Memphis) Super quick point guard showed a pro player's poise and playmaking ability as a frosh while leading the Tigers to the Final Four. Has been compared to Hornets franchise changer Chris Paul and has the first step of a Gilbert Arenas. Rose is the sensible pick despite the presence of Kirk Hinrich.

2. Miami Heat: Michael Beasley (Kansas State) Pat Riley would be just fine with Rose but will leap at the chance to take the best big man in the draft. Beasley, a native of the DC area, is somewhat of a tweener given that he's not a true small forward or a true power forward but he has an NBA player's frame and sublime skills. Right off the bat, he'll give the Heat a player who can help Dwayne Wade and Shawn Marion.

3. Minnesota Timberwolves: O.J. Mayo (USC) The franchise that drew third and had to settle for Christian Laettner when Shaquille O'Neal and Alonzo Mourning were the top two players available in 1992 will once again settle for third best. The good news is that Mayo appears to have the physical talent to play in the NBA right away and he gives the team a nice 1-2 punch to go along with Al Jefferson. Still, it's going to be another long, cold winter in the Twin Cities. Again. Go Vikings.

4. Seattle SuperSonics: Jerryd Bayless (Arizona) The run on one-year college players could continue with the super raw Bayless, who should nicely fit in with last year's big find: Kevin Durant. The only question is whether the franchise will be in Seattle or Oklahoma City.

5. Memphis: Brook Lopez (Stanford) The struggling Grizzlies need a big man after getting robbed by the Lakers for Pau Gasol and Lopez is the most NBA-ready center in the draft. This franchise really needed Beasely.

By Ivan Carter |  May 20, 2008; 8:10 PM ET
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man i was pretty upset that both teams that have the number 1 and 2 pick are in the east. hey ivan what are the wizards going to do at 18. will we trade the pick because we already have nick young, dominc mcguire, andray, pesh. we have alot of young players if you do not mind can you blog for us and think they will do thanks.

Posted by: brandon | May 20, 2008 9:11 PM

I was hoping Seattle got the top pick and Beasley...Green, Beasley, and Durant...perhaps a solid veteran PG in FA...that team would be exciting to watch for the next several years...

Can't understand why the Bulls would want Rose along with Gordon/Hinrich...I know he's good, but a young PG needs finishers...outside of Deng...this team has none. Beasley would make sense for most all of the teams in the lottery, save Portland.

Posted by: chuck | May 20, 2008 9:47 PM

LMAO!

If only EG could have been savvy enough to get Memphis's lottery pick this year.

BTW, Mayo is probably the highest pick with the best chance at being a total bust.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 20, 2008 9:57 PM

OJ Mayo = Dajuan Wagner

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 20, 2008 10:05 PM

draft CDR.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 10:09 PM

O.J. Mayo will be a bust.

O.J. Mayo = Sebastian Telfair

Posted by: loathe0 | May 20, 2008 10:11 PM

since everyone is updating the mock drafts sites, who should the Wizards draft at 18?

based on draftexpress.com, they have us taking that dude form Stanford. they could use another scorer of the bench, but i would prefer they draft someone with scoring ablity but play defense as well. Chase whats-his-face just doesn't isn't that. If CDR is available then I'd say draft him, draftexpress also has Brandon Rush available. He'd be nice too.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2008/

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 10:17 PM

draft JaVale McGee.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 10:20 PM

Trade down and get Joey Dorsey in the early 2nd round.

Posted by: Jason | May 20, 2008 10:24 PM

no on McGee. did you read his profile? look at his weaknesses. he is THE EXACT player the Wizards SHOULD NOT draft.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaVale-McGee-1197/

i've read this book before it was titled "Oleksiy Pecherov", he's terrible.

Posted by: RedWizNut | May 20, 2008 10:28 PM

I think the consensus is that McGee is exactly what the Wiz don't need. Same as what I reported earlier. Wiz don't need any more projects (AB, OPech, NY, DMac, and VV). Please note below "atrocious defender."

Weaknesses:

• Extremely weak physically
• Struggles holding spot on the block
• Ability to finish through contact
• Poor fundamentals
• Footwork/Post-moves
• Left hand
• Shot-selection
• Free throw shooting
• Decision making
• Basketball IQ
• Lacks experience
• Atrocious defender
• Poor activity level/Doesn't hustle
• Mental/Physical toughness?
• Soft?
• Long ways away from contributing
• High bust potential

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 20, 2008 10:34 PM

i don't know about CDR either. i like his game, plus his profile has him listed perimeter defense as one of his strengths. the wizards could use that A BUNCH!

Some other strengths that impressed me were: Aggressiveness, Scoring instincts, Shot-creating skills, and Toughness.

i think most, if not all of his weaknesses could improve with time.

i'm on the CDR bandwagon.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Douglas-Roberts-506/

Posted by: Red(Wiz) | May 20, 2008 10:37 PM

I love CDR. I watched him for a couple of years closely when I was in Memphis. He's a little smallish for the NBA, but he's a guy who can get his shot off from anywhere. He has good touch around the rim, too. A lot of unorthodox releases. Similar, in that way, to AJ. He has decent range, but consistency is sometimes a problem. His free throw shooting has been terrible for the type of player he is.

I would also enjoy seeing the Wizards take Joey Dorsey. He's the kind of inside defensive presence they need. He has no offensive skill set at all. But he rebounds well, blocks shots and plays good defense. He has a tendency to get in foul trouble, though.

Draft express projects the Wizards taking Budinger, but that's the last thing they need: Another tall guy who likes the jump shot. I think EG is going to be looking to trade out of the No. 18 pick.

Posted by: Colin | May 20, 2008 10:39 PM

And yes, CDR plays hard-nosed perimeter defense.

Posted by: Colin | May 20, 2008 10:40 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 10:44 PM

Assuming the Bulls take Beasley, should the Wiz try to make a trade for Tyrus Thomas for the 18th pick and ?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 20, 2008 11:00 PM

no on McGee. did you read his profile? look at his weaknesses. he is THE EXACT player the Wizards SHOULD NOT draft.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaVale-McGee-1197/

i've read this book before it was titled "Oleksiy Pecherov", he's terrible.

Posted by: RedWizNut | May 20, 2008 10:28 PM

No - RedWizNut, you're wrong. At least Pecherov is a "gym rat".. A guy that spends LOTS and LOTS of time trying to get better. McGee has never been accused of working too hard.

But you're right - he's DEFINATELY NOT the type of player that the Wizards should draft... don't we already have several players that Eddie Jordan has called out for "losing focus", and not being in NBA "condition", etc...

No - the Wiz should draft a kid that has a great work ethic.

Posted by: Rook | May 20, 2008 11:19 PM

With the 18th pick, the Wizards should pick Roy Hibbert (7'3", 275). Good enough right now to be the Wizards back-up Center. Played in the Princeton offense at Georgetown. Nice touch. Good free throw shooter. Good one-on-one post defender. Excellent passer. Good in the PnR. Very hard worker.

If Hibbert is gone, and if he falls as far as #18, they should take Joe Anderson. I just want to see him head-butt the rim...

Third choice Robin Lopez.

With the 2nd round pick, they should choose a big, defensive minded PG.
Mario Chalmers(6'1" 190) if he's still available.
OR
Jamont Gordon (6'3", 225)



Posted by: Rook | May 20, 2008 11:34 PM

Chicago should choose Rose. You never pass up the chance to pick up a Lottery PG or Center. Those are the two positions that it's hardest to find a truly great player; and those two positions (especially the PG) are crucial to having a contending team.

Look at it this way.... How many Shooting Guards, Small Forwards or Power Forwards have come out of the last 4 drafts that you could make a case that they will be "VERY GOOD" players (potential All-Stars) ..... The list is pretty long.. Brandon Roy, Kevin Durant, David West, LeBron James, Andre Iguodala, Josh Howard, Josh Smith , Rudy Gay , Danny Granger, LaMarcus Aldridge, Al Thornton, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, (ad nausium) ...

Do the same thing for PG - now the list is Chris Paul and Deron Williams..... that's it!!!

As a GM, if you have the chance to get a top tier Point Guard, you take it...

Posted by: Rook | May 21, 2008 12:00 AM

What about this trade scenario:

Wizards resign Arenas
Chicago resigns Luol Deng

Wizards get:
Luol Deng
other player(s) to make salaries match (Noah or Cedric Simmons, etc)
Chicago's 1st round pick in 2008

Chicago gets:
Gilbert Arenas
Washington's 1st round pick in 2008
Washington's 1st round pick from Memphis
Rights to Vladimir Veremeenko

Then the Wizards could draft Rose.

Posted by: Rook | May 21, 2008 12:13 AM

Another smallish guard who likes to fire it up is the last thing the Bulls need. Esp. if it costs them their best player.

It'll be interesting to see which way Chicago goes. Rose is suited to the kind of ball the Bulls have played recently, but with Skiles gone, will the new coach (whoever that is) completely remake the offense? With the personnel they have, they're a small jumpshooting team. Rose makes them a better, small jumpshooting team. Problem is, small jumpshooting teams rarely win titles. They've needed a low post scoring presence for a long time. Beasley would be a nice complement to the dirty-work bigs they've already got and help create space for their shooters.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:43 AM

Yeah - perhaps Chicago wouldn't go for that trade...


Miami wouldn't want Arenas either. His game is too similar to Dwayne Wade's (except 3-point shooting). They would just take turns driving to the basket. Besides, besides Wade, Miami doesn't have any pieces the Wizards really need, or want.

Oh well - pipe dreams...

Posted by: Rook | May 21, 2008 12:54 AM

There is no way Chicago trades the first pick in the draft, especially not for a point guard with chronic injury problems. That gave me a good laugh, thanks.

Posted by: Aaron | May 21, 2008 2:41 AM

I like dcman's thought of trading the 18 to Chicago for Thomas, assuming the Bulls take Beasley and not Rose with the #1 choice... The Bulls might go for this if the Wizards toss in the infamous Memphis pick, since Thomas was originally a very high lottery pick and it would be hard for Paxson to let him go straight up for an 18th pick.

If we keep the pick, I still like the idea of Roy Hibbert but would be interested in getting a better handle on what Chase Budinger or CDR might bring to the party. I may be a traditionalist but I tend to have greater faith in Arizona players than Memphis players (DaJuan anyone?).

Posted by: khrabb | May 21, 2008 4:19 AM

How bout we make a play for Carmelo? Caron has been injured or seriously banged up during the playoffs each of his three seasons in Washington.

Send Caron, AD & #18th pick for Carmelo.

Then send a future 1st, return Memphis' future 1st & Pech to Memphis for Kyle Lowry

Draft Joey Dorsey in the 2nd round.

Sign Sean Singletary out of UVA as a free agent after the draft.

New lineup:

PF Jamison > Blatche > Songaila
SF C. Anthony > McGuire
C Haywood > E. Thomas > Dorsey(R)
SG Stevenson > N. Young
PG Arenas > Lowry > Singletary(R)

Posted by: Dat2U | May 21, 2008 4:37 AM

I'm with Rook. Hibbert makes sense with us picking so low. I also like the idea of looking at Batum or the defensive Lopez brother. We need an interior defensive presense and rebounder. I like BTH a lot but if you put him in for a consistent 30 a game and Hibbert for 18, we could move AB to PF permanently where he belongs. That gives AJ more bench time, reducing the chance for injury. At the same time give DM some of CB's minutes for the same reason.
How about Ty Lawson as a longshot sleeper pick? We've been complaining about not having a pure point. He's not a bad player and is quick as hell. He could guard those small pesky guys that have given us trouble.

Posted by: mark | May 21, 2008 7:25 AM

overall though...i want the Wizards to draft..

Ty Lawson...PG North Carolina H: 5′ 11″ W: 175 lbs

Strengths:

• Quickest player in college basketball?
• Strength
• Ball-handling skills
• Changing directions/Hesitation moves
• Pushing tempo
• Transition play
• Putting pressure on defense
• True point guard
• Court vision
• Unselfishness
• Passing on the move
• Assist to turnover ratio
• Creating his own shot
• Hands in passing lanes
• Ball-pressure
• Upside

Weaknesses:

• Size
• Perimeter shooting
• Off dribble shooting
• Mid-range game
• Defensive potential
• Leadership skills in clutch
• Experience/Consistency
• Decision making
• Finishing in traffic

...get him to work with Dave Hopla...as soon as he gets down to DC..that will defenitly improve his really ONLY weakness...he gets 8.1 asst. per 40 mins..he's compared to T.J. Ford...who was the guy on here who said we should pick him up??.....

anyways read more about him...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ty-Lawson-485/

Posted by: wiz-skins07 | May 21, 2008 7:49 AM

"Yeah - perhaps Chicago wouldn't go for that trade...


Miami wouldn't want Arenas either. His game is too similar to Dwayne Wade's (except 3-point shooting). They would just take turns driving to the basket. Besides, besides Wade, Miami doesn't have any pieces the Wizards really need, or want.

Oh well - pipe dreams...

Posted by: Rook | May 21, 2008 12:54 AM "

I like trading Gilby to Chicago, but why would Chicago want Gilby if they have a cheaper version in Ben "air" Gordon?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 21, 2008 8:14 AM

Who cares who we draft EJ won't play him for 2 years.

Posted by: NFeKPo | May 21, 2008 8:19 AM

How stupid does D'Antoni look now for taking the Knicks job instead of the Bulls.
Did you see how anger he looked when Knicks got the 6th pick? F'ing hilarious.

Posted by: NFeKPo | May 21, 2008 8:28 AM

"Who cares who we draft EJ won't play him for 2 years."

This would be funny as hell if it weren't true, NFeKPo. You're absolutely right. We could draft a young Olajuwon and he'd get 18 minutes a game.

Posted by: mark | May 21, 2008 8:36 AM

Butler for Anthoney.

HAHAHAHA. why in the world would they want to do that?

The Fix is in for Chicago. It makes zero sence they take Beasley when they have Gooden, Thomas, Noah, Nocioni and a project in Simmons. Especially when Hinrich played like dodo. Any trade with Chicago would have to included Hughes and his ugly contract.

Wiz should draft Hibbert. Lawson is going to be a stud, he will be better then Felton, but he most likey going back to school.

Posted by: pg posse | May 21, 2008 8:37 AM

I'm glad D'Antoni didnt take the Bulls job. Sheesh. Can you imagine Rose or Beasley, Deng, Larry Hughes, Gordon, Hinrich, Tyrus, Noah, Thabo running up and down the court shooting 3's? I think the Wiz dodged a bullet.

Posted by: mark | May 21, 2008 8:39 AM

Uh guys, Arenas, Butler, or Jamison aren't going anywhere. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

So all you armchair GM's can stop with your silly trade scenarios. EG WILL draft the best player at 18.

As much as some of us would like a "shake" up of this team, it ain't happening.

This team, with possibly the exception of RM is staying together.

Posted by: peej9999 | May 21, 2008 8:46 AM

Ernie is working a deal. He doesnt want any more rookies in 08-09. Who is feeling desperate or overconfident and ripe to be fleeced? Minn or Sacramento or the Clippers or Golden State or even the Knicks perhaps? They each have a big man or a pg that would help the Wiz next year. A couple of 1st round picks packaged with AD's and or ET's contract is starting to look attractive as they comes closer to expiration.

Posted by: oddjob | May 21, 2008 10:18 AM

D'Antoni is 25 mil richer. He's not looking too too stupid.

Posted by: hood snitch | May 21, 2008 10:28 AM

I am against trading the pick. This team isn't too young. When you trade a pick for an established player, especially the 18th pick, you tend to get a mediocre player at best. The Wizards aren't a mediocre player away from making the Eastern Conference Finals. Take a chance in the draft and maybe get something good.

The players picked lower in the first round that turn out to be good are the players perceived to be have shortcomings, like David West (too small), Tayshaun Prince (built like the Olsen twins), etc., or are foreign players. Some players who might fit that bill this year that people have mentioned are CDR (too awkward, they say), Lawson (too small), Dorsey (undersized), and even Hibbert. I don't think Hibbert will be a star, but there's a 90% chance he will be a backup center in the league for 10 years, and if you can get that with the 18th pick in the draft, that's not bad.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 21, 2008 10:51 AM

Assuming the Bulls take Beasley, should the Wiz try to make a trade for Tyrus Thomas for the 18th pick and ?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 20, 2008 11:00 PM

Absolutely NOT. Why do the Wizards need a slight power forward (maybe) who can jump out of the building but has limited offensive skills and pretty poor defensive tendencies? Sounds like Darvin Ham 2.0. His athleticism will wow you. His on-court skill will disgust you.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 10:54 AM

kal, I wouldn't classify Rose as a jump shooter. He's a stout guy, with great quickness and speed. He was, by far, the fastest PG in college basketball last season. His strength is his ability to get to the rim and create his own shot. He has good body control, and he's strong up top. His shooting is so-so right now, but that will improve. He's a guy who can create and hit tough shots in the middle like Tony Parker, but he has the size and bullish attitude of a Deron Williams. The Bulls should take him and move Hinrich to the bench. Larry Hughes loves to run, and with Rose at PG, they will. Plus, moving Hinrich to the bench with Ben Gordon only strengthens that second unit for Chicago.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 10:57 AM

No that Chicago has the first pick the Wiz should make a play for Lual Dang from Chicago. They can trade Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila, Pecherov and even Andray Blanche, maybe even Roger Mason if Arenas is expected to get healthy. Lual Dang would be a great addition to the Wiz. He could start along with Arenas, Heywood, Jamison and Butler. I think the Wiz should try to make this happen.

Posted by: Nick Johnson | May 21, 2008 10:58 AM

"BTW, Mayo is probably the highest pick with the best chance at being a total bust."


Thats craziness...Mayo is going to be a stud....The one to be scared of is MR. Brook Lopez!

The wiz need to trade the pick and toss in that memphis pick for a player who can help now...We don't need more projects unless we are going to start over completely

Posted by: Anonymous | May 21, 2008 11:18 AM

Ernie is working a deal. He doesnt want any more rookies in 08-09. Who is feeling desperate or overconfident and ripe to be fleeced? Minn or Sacramento or the Clippers or Golden State or even the Knicks perhaps? They each have a big man or a pg that would help the Wiz next year. A couple of 1st round picks packaged with AD's and or ET's contract is starting to look attractive as they comes closer to expiration.

Posted by: oddjob | May 21, 2008 10:18 AM


Oddjob, do you have inside info or is this just speculation?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 21, 2008 11:20 AM

Will Pesh and Blatche ever amount to solid NBA players? It appears they may not. I disagree with the notion the Wiz already have too much youth, because I think the young players stink (that's harsh, but they have not shown much). I realize Nick Young and McGuire need another year or two before we know for sure what they can be, and I think they can both be solid. But three years into the Andray Blatche experiment it seems safe to say he will not amount to anything more than a decent reserve, which is disappointing considering the contract Ernie gave him last summer. And Pesh ... please. In my mind the Wiz are in fact an old-ish team whose window (ha!) is actually closing. Jamison (if he returns), Daniels, Haywood, even Butler and Stevenson are well into their careers now, and have all carried huge minutes or had injury issues.

The East is getting younger and more talented and the Wiz are treading water ... lose in the first round and go into the draft with a mid 1st rounder. And their recent history with these picks is not very promising. There is not a single player on the roster who is a meaningful contributor that was drafted by Washington. In this sense I feel Ernie is a bit "overrated" - though he has done a nice job putting this team (a playoff team, but not a contender)together. It is especially frustrating when guys like Stuckey and Thornton have made an impact in their first year, while we have "projects" like Young and Pecherov who may or may not pan out.

I hate to say it, but I think the Wizards are moving in the wrong direction, and will be looking up at Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, Chicago, Philly for the foreseable future ... not to mention Boston, Detroit and Cleveland (ugh).

Posted by: pepcoenergy3 | May 21, 2008 11:37 AM

"No that Chicago has the first pick the Wiz should make a play for Lual Dang from Chicago. They can trade Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila, Pecherov and even Andray Blanche, maybe even Roger Mason if Arenas is expected to get healthy. Lual Dang would be a great addition to the Wiz. He could start along with Arenas, Heywood, Jamison and Butler. I think the Wiz should try to make this happen.

Posted by: Nick Johnson | May 21, 2008 10:58 AM "

Huh?

Deng plays SF. Caron is at SF, while AJ should be a SF too.

I say get a PF, and have AJ come off the bench. He did it happily in Dallas, but do you pay a guy 10-12 mil/year to be your sixth man?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 21, 2008 12:07 PM

"kal, I wouldn't classify Rose as a jump shooter."

I wasn't classifying him as a jumpshooter. I was pointing out that the current makeup of the Bulls team (minus whomever they draft) is a jumpshooting team. A quick, penetrating passing PG would make them a better, more effective jumpshooting team (the way Nash did for the Suns and Kidd did for the Nets), but they'd still be a jumpshooting team. And jumpshooting teams generally don't win titles. (Ask the Suns and the Nets.) You compared him to Tony Parker and Deron Williams. Well, Tony Parker and Deron Williams both have low post scorers capable of putting up 20 and 10 on a given night. The Bulls have needed an inside presence for as long as the current regime's been in place, and none of their current big men come close to filling the bill. That being true, I don't necessarily agree that it's a gimme they take Rose. There are some clear benefits for the Bulls to taking Beasley.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:10 PM

Jamison may have come off the bench in Dallas, but he's made it clear in comments since that he wasn't happy about it.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:11 PM

I would agree, kal. But I don't think Beasley is going to make them demonstrably better. In fact, I think Rose will. Beasley is a tweener, and he compares to guys like David West and Derrick Coleman. But he's not going to be the legit low-post threat the Bulls need. I think the Bulls should take Rose now and look around for some low post scorers. Draft one in the second round or find someone in free agency. Unfortunately, they're hampered by some bad contracts, or they could've drafted Rose and gone after Elton Brand. I still think Rose works out better for the Bulls than Beasley.

But if the Bulls do take Beasley, than the Heat are setting themselves up nicely with a Rose-Wade back court to pair with Shawn Marion at the forward.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 12:20 PM

pepcoenergy3 ,

I agree with much of your reasoning regarding the Wizards' relative status in the East, but take partial issue with your conclusion about the Wiz not having enough youth.

I definitely agree with your less than rosy assessment of the team's current youth corps, but that's exactly the reason why they don't need more young guys. Their window may be closing (and doesn't appear that open to begin with) and since a total overhaul doesn't appear to be in the works, they need to make a move now. More young guys who will take even more years to develop don't fit into what seems the be the current strategy of making a push with this lineup. If they make roster moves, they need to get guys who can step in and contribute at a high level right away. The core of this team doesn't have time to wait for the kids to play catch up.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:20 PM

West looked like a stud in the making in the Spurs series, and Coleman is widely considered one of the most talent PFs who ever played the game. Of course he's also considered one of the biggest wastes of talent who ever played the game. But his issue was attitude, not ability. If Beasley has comparable ability and better attitude, there's no question having his presence inside would make the Bulls better, by drawing in defenses and creating more open looks for their shooters.

Neither one would be a bad choice, but without a lot more moves to follow, Rose alone doesn't really address the Bulls' major issues.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:26 PM

I wasn't knocking the abilities of West or DC. They're both supremely talented scorers. But I don't think Beasley would draw all those double teams. Because of his size, I think a lot of the better teams would be able to single cover the guy, which really wouldn't up shooting lanes for the perimeter players. Rose, on the other hand, will become close to unguardable because of his quickness and speed, which will open up those shots.

I also think Rose will make Hughes a more dynamic offensive force for that team. I think you'd see a spike in Gordon's shooting percentage. I think you'd see Rose finding guys like Drew Gooden and Luol Deng open for mid-range jumpers and easy lay ups. I think Rose adds several more dimensions to Chicago's team.

West is turning into a stud, in large part because of Chris Paul. Frankly, I think you take a PG like Rose with that first pick and dig up a West-type guy later in the draft or through FA. I know you're supposed to build around a big guy, but I think in this case, the Bulls would be better served taking Rose.

But, as you said, neither is a bad choice. I just have a preference.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 12:33 PM

And about OJ Mayo ... some analysts seem to think he may be one of the most NBA ready players in the draft, talent-wise. The concern with him is his attitude in a team setting where he won't be the top dog.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:34 PM

I think Mayo lost points because he disappeared in games a lot last season. His shoot wasn't great. His energy and decision making were questioned. Maybe he was just saving himself from injury because he knew he was bolting. But he didn't live up the hype surrounding him. I don't think there's any doubt he has NBA-level talent. But, as kal mentioned, the concern is about his level of commitment, particularly when things aren't going his way.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 12:36 PM

One other thing about Rose: In the EC, he could take a team to the conference or NBA finals even without a big-time low-post scorer. Maybe not next season, but in a couple of years. See Allen Iverson and Jason Kidd. D'Antoni has called Rose Jason Kidd with a jump shot. And if that's the case--he can shoot and distribute--I think that serves the Bulls better right now.

Posted by: Colin | May 21, 2008 12:49 PM

"West is turning into a stud, in large part because of Chris Paul."

If you'd said Tyson Chandler, I'd agree. But West, unlike Chandler, isn't totally dependent on Paul to create shots for him. In fact, based on what we saw in the Spurs series, West is the only guy on the Hornets other than Paul who can consistently create shots for himself, either in the post or facing up off the dribble.

(All that being said, having watched him sneer, strut, and posture his way through the playoffs, he's well on his way to replacing Kenyon Martin as my least favorite NBA player.)

I really don't see how size is an issue for Beasley. He's listed at 6' 10" 235 lbs, which puts him in thee wheelhouse of many current NBA PFs. (They days of 260 lb, floor-bound bruisers is pretty much gone). He could probably stand to add 5-10 lbs of muscle, but that's easy enough to do. His height and athleticism are certainly more than sufficient for the position.

Posted by: kalroama | May 21, 2008 12:49 PM

"West is turning into a stud, in large part because of Chris Paul."

If you'd said Tyson Chandler, I'd agree. But West, unlike Chandler, isn't totally dependent on Paul to create shots for him. In fact, based on what we saw in the Spurs series, West is the only guy on the Hornets other than Paul who can consistently create shots for himself, either in the post or facing up off the dribble.

(All that being said, having watched him sneer, strut, and posture his way through the playoffs, he's well on his way to replacing Kenyon Martin as my least favorite NBA player.)

I really don't see how size is an issue for Beasley. He's listed at 6' 10" 235 lbs, which puts him in thee wheelhouse of many current NBA PFs. (They days of 260 lb, floor-bound bruisers is pretty much gone). He could probably stand to add 5-10 lbs of muscle, but that's easy enough to do. His height and athleticism are certainly more than sufficient for the position.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:49 PM

The Wiz need to and can contend now, so trade this pick, the Memphis pick and AB for a true inside presence to defend and relieve Butler and Jamison.
NO injuries + upgrade from AB + NY picking up the slack = great chance of finally winning the East

I would like to point out that if the Wizards can keep Jamison and Arenas, and they should, they have a very good team that CAN be a contender. Remember, when all three superstars were healthy back in late '06 early '07 the Wiz were the top of the East. A starting lineup of Butler, Jamison, Haywood, Stevenson, and Arenas is a great lineup if healthy (and from what I have read in Sport's columns this seems to be a strong possibility). The only problem then is the bench, especially with RM probably leaving. DS and AD are great off the bench, and ET is also a good back-up Center if he can play nice with Haywood. But DM and OP aren't ready and AB seems to be the lasiest and least motivated on the team. Trade him and some picks for some real help up front (Wise, I think, mentioned Boozer...maybe not, but can't we find someone like him). After that, we just have to hope that with more minutes NY can be the scoring touch off the bench...oh and that we can avoid injuries for once.

Posted by: mcgratsp | May 21, 2008 12:52 PM

"One other thing about Rose: In the EC, he could take a team to the conference or NBA finals even without a big-time low-post scorer. Maybe not next season, but in a couple of years. See Allen Iverson and Jason Kidd."

I see that neither of them has ever won a title and that, on the occasions when they did make it to the Finals, they were rolled over by teams with big time low post scorers.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 12:56 PM

In any event, Rose vs. Beasley (and the draft as a whole) is all speculation. We'll see when we see. Besides, I hate the Bulls, so I actually hope they screw it up.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 1:02 PM

The next time an NBA team is looking to hire a GM, look no further than the WP sports blogs. It is soo many good GM here I can't understand why they are on these blogs and not in a NBA office. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 21, 2008 1:23 PM

I say get a PF, and have AJ come off the bench. He did it happily in Dallas, but do you pay a guy 10-12 mil/year to be your sixth man?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 21, 2008 12:07 PM

Jamison was not happy in Dallas, he was happy when he moved here. Remember when Jordan benched him, and made him the 6th guy a few years back? He was not happy then either. He views himself as first unit.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 21, 2008 2:37 PM

"How bout we make a play for Carmelo? Caron has been injured or seriously banged up during the playoffs each of his three seasons in Washington."

This kid has problems. He is always involved in something negative, be it on a don't snitch video, fighting in a club, DUI and who knows what else. If he continues with this behavior, he may end up in jail one day and what will the Wizards have to show for it? Why do you think Denver is trying to move him? And we all know that Abe will not touch him or his kind with a 20 foot pole.

Posted by: StLou | May 21, 2008 2:52 PM

I agree with Kal that our window is closing (if not already shut) and our No. 1 should be used to trade for a YOUNG veteran who can help right away and/or start if Jamison leaves as a FA. Can't assume he'll re-sign even if the Wizards make him the highest offer.

Trade the 18th pick, AB, and the future Memphis pick to get an under the radar big man who can rebound and play D at the 4 or 5 position. Rony Turiaff, Paul Millsap, and Nick Collison all fit that mold and aren't starters (Collison was part-time). Each could come in and contribute immediately as backups to Heywood and AJ, plus give us some low post toughness we don't have on our roster. Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbard, and whoever else is available at 18 will not contribute anytime soon.

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 21, 2008 2:57 PM

"The struggling Grizzlies need a big man after getting robbed by the Lakers..."

Umm, I don't think so Ivan.

They gave that guy away knowing that upper management is/was unsettled.

Sad thing is they could have gotten a lot more for Gasol but they chose not to. How dumb is that? The Griz can only blame themselves, the Lakers were just the benefactors.

I was really hoping the Wiz would pony up for that guy and now everyone sees how good he really is now that he's in L.A..

Is it me or does this upcoming draft look a little thin? At least last year there was some real flavor to it with Durant and Oden.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | May 21, 2008 3:30 PM

wizfan, just because a guy's not a starter doesn't mean he's not valuable. There's almost no chance that their current teams would deal Turiaf or Millsap for Blatch and a couple of late first rounders. Those guys are more valuable to their teams that Blatche could be because they provide the very thing that he doesn't (and that the Wiz need) toughness down low.

"Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbard, and whoever else is available at 18 will not contribute anytime soon."

Define "anytime soon." Because it's not exactly uncommon for a player taken at that spot or later to be a significant contributor in their first years.

Posted by: kalorama | May 21, 2008 3:43 PM

I swear some of these sports writers are dumb as ***. The grizzles didn't get robbed(even though it looked like it). The grizzlies are trying to sell the team so they want to cut payroll so it's a more attractive sell for the buyer. They got all expiereing contracts and unloaded gasol's huge contract in which the laker's don't mind paying. The tax is @67mil. The lakers are @75. Grizzlies are @53mil. The west is tough no point being a mediocre team and never win a title, build for the future. Look at Portland.

The wiz wouldn't have made the postseason in the west and will never win a tilte with this team but there okay being a middle class team just making the postseaon.

The capitals sacrificed making the postseason for a couple of years and wanted to win a championship and every NHL except says they will in the next 2yrs.

WIZ suck. Lebron owns them. They can't beat detroit or boston in 7 games. Only team they might have a shot of beating is Orlando

Posted by: smartfan | May 21, 2008 3:48 PM

Trade the 18th pick, AB, and the future Memphis pick to get an under the radar big man who can rebound and play D at the 4 or 5 position. Rony Turiaff, Paul Millsap ...

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 21, 2008 2:57 PM

that would be nice, but i do not think it is realistic. I forget the exact details, but I van has explained before how the Memphis pick is virtually worthless. And who would want Blatche? He was a disappointment this year. He shows no desire or passion, doesn't appear he will ever make "the leap", and is probably not worth the money over the four years remaining on his new deal.

After the top 2 this looks like a very thin draft, so I do not think the 18th pick will fetch much in return. it would be nice to have a millsap though ... and to think we drafted Pecherov about 20 spots before him.

I think Brandon Rush can play and could become an solid perimeter defender. I know I am playing the role of another post.com GM, but I'd like to see the Wizards draft the best available talent ... not a project, but someone like Rush or Douglass Roberts.

Posted by: pepcoenergy3 | May 21, 2008 5:43 PM

I kind of like where the Wizards are drafting. Here are what they need.

1. They really need an inside presence on the block, a player who can post up and score. They have defensive centers (Haywood, Thomas) but no legitimate inside post player (except when Jamison briefly posts up). Possible picks: I like all the Hibbert talk but not really. I kind of also would like Love if he fell but probably not. After that, I kind of like D.J. White out of Indiana.

2. The next need is a nice perimeter defender (like Bowen with the Spurs). They really do not need any more offense. Possible picks: I like the CDR thought. He can obviously score and defend. I also like Buddinger. He's long and athletic but not really a shut down defender. I'd also grab Alexander if he's still there.

3. A solid backup point guard. Daniels is best suited to 20-25 minutes right now. Possible picks: I like the Lawson idea. Chalmers from Kansas also a possibility.

Those seeking to trade Arenas are high. They should stop at nothing to keep Arenas and Butler. Jamison is expendable. I like the thought of trading to get Okafor. But afer that, I'd keep the big 3 and work on the defense. Never, ever trade Arenas.

Posted by: Take Buddinger | May 22, 2008 12:40 AM

Why not draft 7 ft 8 KEVIN GEORGE from NC ASHEVILLE!! hahahha we need another Muresan, he played for the bullets, now we'll have our own quicker, bigger, muresan for the wizards! we might as well, the 18th pick doesn't mean squat, look at nick young what has he done. we might as well get a 8 foot tall freak as our next big project.

Posted by: aJ | May 22, 2008 1:10 AM

There is alot of talent in this draft...very deep at the big man position. With that said, take a page out of the Spurs book and draft an international player that may need one more year overseas. The player should be Nathan Jawaii (Australia). I've seen tape on this Man Child and he loves rebounding and dunking (and blocked shots). There is already enough young talent on the bench. If not him look at trade downs and for players like Devon Hardin and Joey Dorsey, guys who love defense and rebounding.

Posted by: Big JAB | May 22, 2008 9:31 AM

I gotta agree with Jason. I don't care if you get him in the first or the second. Get me Joey Dorsey.

Posted by: LIKWID | May 22, 2008 12:01 PM

I gotta agree with one of the earlier posters. I don't care if you get him in the first or the second. Get me Joey Dorsey. I'm also a fan of a young backup point guard that can be groomed for the immediate future. DJ White is also a nice possibility as he would give us a legit back to the basket scorer. I'd go for a backup pg in the 2nd, and someone in the frontcourt in the first.

And I would be remissed if I didn't say, the guy that feels this draft is thin after the first two picks... must have gotten out of bed on the wrong side this morning. The first two picks look like immediate sure-fire difference makers, but after them, there are a LOAD of high-quality players that will make an impact next season.

Posted by: LIKWID | May 22, 2008 12:07 PM

Here is my 2 cents.... Definetly down for getting Dorsey or DJ White in the second round if they are available.

I wish Chicago would take Beasly, but when I think about all the variables, Rose seems like the smarter choice.

Here is the reason I want Chicago to take Beasly! If they do, they will have way to many forwards on their roster....so what does Chicago do then, they trade us Drew Gooden for the #18 pick...

Now that puts the wizards in serious contention in the East. Imagine our lineup!

pg: Arenas, Daniels, Young
sg: Butler, Stevenson
sf: Jamison, Mcguire
pf: Gooden, Blatche, Dorsey
c: Haywood, Thomas, Peterov

Now who could argue with that lineup... we'd have a solid Pf in Gooden, and it would put Butler and Jamison in postions that I think better suit them. Lets face it Jamison is too small to be a PF, he would absolutely tear SF's appart, none of them could stop him, and same thing with Butler, it would be great to have him post up SG's and use his size to bother them on the Defenisve issue.

Posted by: abanig | May 22, 2008 1:54 PM

Not a chance in the world the Bulls trade Gooden to the Wiz. If they draft Beasley I could certainly see them moving him, but the Wiz have nothing to offer they want. They can easily find a better deal that #18 and whatever castoffs the Wiz throw in.

Posted by: kalorama | May 22, 2008 2:53 PM

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