Arenas opts out

Gilbert Arenas told me today that he filed the paperwork neccessary for opting out of the final year of his contract on Friday. The move makes Arenas an unrestricted free agent. The free agency period opens July 1.

Arenas told me that he doesn't have any plans lined up for meeting with other teams and in fact, he will be out of the country traveling from June 30 until mid-July so any teams interested in pitching an offer had been be able to track him down. As has been reported previously, the Wiz plan on retaining Arenas and Antawn Jamison and I don't really see that changing. I asked Arenas straight up what he sees happening and he said that he's 75 percent sure that he's going to be back. We'll see.

In other news, the Wizards will continue pre-draft workouts tomorrow by hosting Mario Chalmers (Kansas), Chris Douglas-Roberts (Memphis), Richard Hendrix (Alabama), Courtney Lee (Western Kentucky), Charles Rhodes (Miss State) and Rodrique Beaubois, an intriguing guard prospect from France.

By Ivan Carter |  June 9, 2008; 10:30 PM ET
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For a guy who likes to project how he's smarter than everyone else, he sure seems like he's going into free agency with a half assed effort.

I thought the goal was to market oneself to other teams, GM's, with hopes of trying to get the max out of them even though they can't match what the Wizards could pay, especially since he's coming off an injury that required 2 surgeries and a lot of missed games.

Now, Gilby would be lucky to get a dollar amount from the Wiz equivalent to what other teams can pay him.

Only time will tell with this diva.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 9, 2008 10:43 PM

Ivan,

Didn't you write an article last week saying that "Arenas has until June 30 to opt out" but then in today's article it says

When asked why he "planned on waiting until June 30 to opt out."

And also wrote "he doesn't plan to file the necessary paperwork with the league any sooner than the June 30 deadline."

But a quick glance at the calendar will tell you it's only June 9th, and if he opted out last Friday, that was June 6th.

So you not only had the date wrong on when he was going to opt out (which you'll probably put on Arenas for being Arenas), but you also got wrong the date that he had until to opt out--June 20, not June 30.

But I see no acknoledgement of the mistake on either the blog nor the story in the paper.

Posted by: Btown Represent | June 9, 2008 10:51 PM

Oops, forgot to include what he wrote today...Corrected version below.

Ivan,

Didn't you write an article last week saying that "Arenas has until June 30 to opt out" but then in today's article it says "According to a provision in his contract, Arenas had until June 20 to opt out."

When asked why he "planned on waiting until June 30 to opt out."

And also wrote "he doesn't plan to file the necessary paperwork with the league any sooner than the June 30 deadline."

But a quick glance at the calendar will tell you it's only June 9th, and if he opted out last Friday, that was June 6th.

So you not only had the date wrong on when he was going to opt out (which you'll probably put on Arenas for being Arenas), but you also got wrong the date that he had until to opt out--June 20, not June 30.

But I see no acknoledgement of the mistake on either the blog nor the story in the paper.

Posted by: Btown Represent | June 9, 2008 10:53 PM

yikes, 75% isn't enough Gil! We want to hear 99.9%.

Posted by: Adam | June 9, 2008 11:32 PM

Btown Represent, if I remember correctly, Ivan reported a few weeks ago that the deadline is June 30 but the papers have to be filed by June 20th (Gil had looked at them and discovered this) or something like that.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 9, 2008 11:53 PM

I wonder about the sign and trade possibilites here.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 10, 2008 12:23 AM

Goofy Arenas is at it again! June 6th not June 20th or whatever the final deadline was he was definitely waiting until. Oops! So now he proclaims he is coming back and places the percentage at 75%. Whatever! At this point, who knows and who cares. This franchise won't be significantly set back if he were to go anyway. I would sign and trade if I were EG.

Posted by: Rob P | June 10, 2008 2:09 AM

Dwyane Wade. Sign and trade. No need to worry about facing Arenas four times a year within the division. Simply arrange to have him served with legal papers of some sort during those games, like back in the day out in Cali.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 2:39 AM

You all are a trip. If he signs somewhere else and does well, it will be interesting to see what you have to say then. If he stays and does well, I am sure the Gil haters won't acknowledge their mistake. I find it interesting that other teamss GM's and basketball analysts say how foolish it would be to rule Gil out but you all want to ship him out on the first thing leaving. I can't wait to see how this develops.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 7:53 AM

Nothing new here. Man is doing what he said he would do all along. It is doubtful that anyone else is going to offer him max money given the issues with his knee.

On other sites, a few Clippers fans are urging his return to LA as Kobe Lite, but Donald Stirling is notoriously cheap and it is hard to imagine him risking that kind of money, especially when there are so many other question marks about his team.

My guess is that the Wizards will offer Arenas a good deal, not for the maximum but for six years at slightly more guaranteed money than he currently makes, laced with incentives that could max him out if he comes back to Hibachi level and plays to that level for a minimum of 70 games etc.

Jamison, I expect, will receive a solid offer probably on a three year deal with a partially guaranteed fourth season. That would give him solid earnings through age 37, which will provide a healthy nest egg and spring board into a couple more years as a productive reserve with a transition into coaching and broadcasting. He is an outstanding individual by all accounts and I believe will be treated accordingly.

The draft, aside from producing a player or two who could help (I view this as a deep draft albeit low in incandescent star power) and if the team deals to move up or down in the draft, that will also give us some further idea of what they have in mind for Gilbert and Antawn.

There is no way I see management breaking up a team that has been to the playoffs four straight seasons with two of its top three players, Arenas and Butler, really just entering their primes and Jamison not showing any signs of immediate breakdown.

Ivan, is there any word on Daniels' wrist surgery? This I think is key to how much the team will invest in its quest for a true point guard... i.e. whether to trade Blatche + the 18th pick to move up high enough to latch onto a player like Augustin, who could step in immediately.

If Daniels looks physically solid for the next season or two, then the solution of looking at free agents (or late second round draft choices), such as UVA's Sean Singleterry, who is not without promise.

If the team holds onto the 18th choice, I expect it will be a big man. If so, I am still of the opinion that Hibbert is the safest choice... I find it fascinating that he has not yet been in for a ritual workout.

Anyone out there think there any potential Leon Powe (or Jason Maxiell) clones in the wings. That was quite a game 2 that Powe put in against the Lakers!

Posted by: khrabb | June 10, 2008 8:03 AM

How do you market yourself when you are coming off 2 knee surgeries? When you barely played this past season? I think Arenas might have seen the writing on the wall (i.e. not too many suitors out there for him) and has decided to low-key the whole marketing himself thing. At least this way, when he ends up with the Wizards, he can say that's what he wanted.

Posted by: Bart | June 10, 2008 8:09 AM

Javale McGee has to be the guy. His mom is Paula Mcgee (remember the twins Pam and Paula?) and his father was drafted in 1985 so we know he's been playing ball since he was born. Looking at the combine measurements, he's got one of the longest standing reaches and wingspans in the draft. He is also 241 pounds with only 5.3% body fat. That's almost unheard of for a guy his size. His lane agility is just ok...slightly better than Lopez's but its been attributed to him putting on weight for the camps. It should improve once he's used to carrying that weight. This is the writeup on him:

"Athletic big man with an excellent face-the-basket game. Long arms and explosive leaping ability make him an excellent shot-blocker and a good rebounder. Is developing a low-post game, but is still very raw. Has a reliable midrange jump shot and even some college 3-point range. Has the ability to create his own shot off the dribble. Good motor for a big man. Could be a 4 or a 5 in the league."

It sounds like he's a rawer version of Bosh. While Hibbert would be cool, maybe we need to look at a guy who can play both PF and C. I also like Patrick Ewing jr. in the 2nd round if we're going big.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:23 AM

More on Javale Mcgee and a private workout...


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaVale-McGee-1197/

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:26 AM

now the downside on McGee...


Struggles to establish position and finish in the paint, settles for some incredibly awkward off-balance shots, and is virtually a black hole with his passing skills--averaging 4 turnovers for every 1 assist. Looks very disinterested at times, doesn't hustle, gives up on plays, late getting back down the floor, and might be the worst man to man defender we've ever evaluated in the post. Gets pushed around, gambles excessively for steals, has no stance or fundamentals, doesn't move his feet, and is a complete non-factor even against the mediocre competition he faces. According to Synergy's "PlayType QuickTable stats," McGee was scored on 66% of the time when being posted up in the paint (against the likes of Fresno State, Utah State, Houston, etc). Is light years away from being able to compete on an NBA level defensively, if ever.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:29 AM

"You all are a trip. If he signs somewhere else and does well, it will be interesting to see what you have to say then. If he stays and does well, I am sure the Gil haters won't acknowledge their mistake. I find it interesting that other teamss GM's and basketball analysts say how foolish it would be to rule Gil out but you all want to ship him out on the first thing leaving. I can't wait to see how this develops.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 7:53 AM "

Gilby will get his points and his personal glory. Whether or not his team does anything is another different subject.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 8:49 AM

"How do you market yourself when you are coming off 2 knee surgeries? When you barely played this past season? I think Arenas might have seen the writing on the wall (i.e. not too many suitors out there for him) and has decided to low-key the whole marketing himself thing. At least this way, when he ends up with the Wizards, he can say that's what he wanted.

Posted by: Bart | June 10, 2008 8:09 AM "

It's a good thing you're not an agent, which is what Gilby needs.

The way you market yourself is to visit the teams, talk to the brass, and you work out in front of them to prove that you are progressing. What you don't do is leave the country and expect teams to be chasing you all around the world.

Of course, the Diva wants to be pursued, so he's running.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 8:51 AM

I don't care who we draft, but whomever we draft, we need someone at least 6-11, has good hops, PLAYS D, rebounds, willing to work, and has fire. The person closest to these attributes should be drafted.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 8:52 AM

Looks like 1 and out with or without Gil. Hard to get too excited about this.

The Wiz brass are happy with their situation. Detroit is not, despite the conference finals. Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere?

Posted by: Izman | June 10, 2008 8:52 AM

I'm hoping they draft me outta the Prison League with their second round pick. I bleed jumpers!

Posted by: Prison Balls | June 10, 2008 9:06 AM

When did anyone say his goal was to market himself to other teams to maximize what they would pay him? No one was ever going to match what the Wizards can and will pay him. He was never going anywhere. He just took the shortest distance between himself and more money. He knows Abe will pay him and that the team can't afford to lose their main draw.

Why are people getting wrapped up in every word he says? This just in! His quotes are good for about 30 seconds. He opted out. It doesn't matter when he filed the paperwork.

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 9:10 AM

I thought the goal was to market oneself to other teams, GM's, with hopes of trying to get the max out of them even though they can't match what the Wizards could pay, especially since he's coming off an injury that required 2 surgeries and a lot of missed games.

Now, Gilby would be lucky to get a dollar amount from the Wiz equivalent to what other teams can pay him.

Only time will tell with this diva.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 9, 2008 10:43 PM

Wrong. No team will pay as much for Arenas as the Wiz, especially now. Gilbert's goal is to strike a long term contract, plain and simple. He opts out now because he knows teams will still pay for his services and he can still sign a lucrative long-term deal. If he waits another season, he runs the risk of getting injured again and further hurting his case. It's a smart business decision, nothing more.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 9:30 AM

The Wiz brass are happy with their situation. Detroit is not, despite the conference finals. Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere?

Posted by: Izman | June 10, 2008 8:52 AM

The clue is that the Pistons are an aging team that has 1, at most 2 more years left in their window of opportunity. Conference finals doesn't work for them anymore.

The Wizards have 4 starters at age 28 or younger, including Gilbert who's 26. And they've performed well the last few years despite being decimated by injury. There's legitimate reason for the Wiz to be happy (but not satisfied, mind you) with their situation.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 9:38 AM

Gilbert Arenas for Juan Carlos Navarro and a bag of bats.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 9:49 AM

The Pistons have made the Eastern Conference Finals 6 years running, so Flip didn't do anything new. In fact he didn't measure up to the guy he replaced who had 2 finals appearances in 2 years. The situation in DC is slightly different, no?

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 10:01 AM

"The clue is that the Pistons are an aging team that has 1, at most 2 more years left in their window of opportunity. Conference finals doesn't work for them anymore.

The Wizards have 4 starters at age 28 or younger, including Gilbert who's 26. And they've performed well the last few years despite being decimated by injury. There's legitimate reason for the Wiz to be happy (but not satisfied, mind you) with their situation.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 9:38 AM "

Depends on how you define "well." One and done in the playoffs isn't really "well" and youth is no guarantee of success.

Also, I'm willing to bet as aggressive as the Pistons are that they will make moves and get younger and better. In contrast, the Wiz haven't sniffed finals since Unseld was here, which was about 30 years ago.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:11 AM

"Wrong. No team will pay as much for Arenas as the Wiz, especially now. Gilbert's goal is to strike a long term contract, plain and simple. He opts out now because he knows teams will still pay for his services and he can still sign a lucrative long-term deal. If he waits another season, he runs the risk of getting injured again and further hurting his case. It's a smart business decision, nothing more.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 9:30 AM "

Wrong. The smart business decision was 2 years ago where EG offered to extend Gilby's contract, but instead, Gilby got greedy and that option went away. Now he wishes he had signed that extension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:14 AM

"When did anyone say his goal was to market himself to other teams to maximize what they would pay him? No one was ever going to match what the Wizards can and will pay him. He was never going anywhere. He just took the shortest distance between himself and more money. He knows Abe will pay him and that the team can't afford to lose their main draw.

Why are people getting wrapped up in every word he says? This just in! His quotes are good for about 30 seconds. He opted out. It doesn't matter when he filed the paperwork.

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 9:10 AM "

Check yourself.

I said Gilby should be marketing himself so that he can get the max out of the other teams so that the Wiz would at least pay him the max what other teams can pay him.

Wiz should not feel any obligation to pay him anything near his max money dreams. Why would Gilby "know" that Abe will pay him? Does history reflect that Abe pays anyone their market value or anything near that, nevermind the fact that Gilby wants AJ to be paid first.

Gilby is not a max money player even if he was healthy.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:17 AM

The problem with the wiz is Ernie Grunfeld thinks they have a team in place that can compete for at least the Eastern Conference if not the NBA finals. Problem is everyone in the wiz organization has lost their minds...this team is no where close to getting to the NBA finals or the Eastern conference finals. If we give jamison a big contract with big money it will be a mistake..he is what 32? and is definitely about to start declining. I know he put up his best numbers this past year but he was in a contract year lets see what he does this year or better yet in 3 years when he is making 16 mil a year and getting about 15 and 7 or 8 at the very most with no defense or toughness. Gilbert is another person we need to let go....hopefully we can sign and trade both of them and get something from them but dont think either give the wiz a promising future. Gilbert coming off 2 knee surgeries hasnt played in a season, doesn't play team ball, plays no D and in my mind b/c of his style of play and his constant need to be in the spotlight is a team cancer. This team needs to let both jamison and arenas go and either rebuild and try to become like the blazers or just trade for veterans that will help now and bolster the team.

There is no doubt this team needs to go in a different direction though b/c if they re-sign both of these 2 it takes up so much cap and we will be stuck going home in the 1st round if we even continue to make it their for at least the next 5 years.

BLOW IT UP AND START OVER THIS TEAM IS NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:18 AM

"The Wiz brass are happy with their situation. Detroit is not, despite the conference finals. Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere?

Posted by: Izman | June 10, 2008 8:52 AM "

You're right.

The Detroit franchise has a history of competing, winning, and getting better.

The Wiz franchise, not so much, but a longshot.

Wiz brass is content to stay in the black financially and collect lux tax welfare. Winning anything is gravy.

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"I asked Arenas last month what he thought the Wizards had to do to appease his wishes. He wouldn't campaign for the Wizards to acquire certain players, but he did say, "If you want a championship, you got to get a championship team."

He added: "I know this might not sound right, but the championship teams treat themselves like champions. You go into Miami's locker room, I'm like, 'Wow, what the hell is this?' Everything from their game-day meals for their players to every state-of-the-art thing you can imagine. As a player, why would you want to leave the locker room? I could sit there all day.

"We've been doing a better job, but it comes down to this: You treat your players like champions, they want to be champions," he added. "All the best teams in the league treat themselves first-class every day. Other players come over and think, 'They got this, they got that. Oh, I want to be here.' ""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402488.html

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On a larger scale, Jordan wants to win now. Like any coach who signed a two-year extension with a team option for the third year last summer, the continuity line gets old.

"But I understand Mr. Pollin's standpoint," Jordan said. "We want to stay within a certain budget for the Washington Wizards. We're not going to be like four or five or six other teams that can do anything it takes to win. Those are decisions we made within the organization. It doesn't bother me. There are times when you say, 'How come we can't get this guy?' But then you say, 'These are the parameters the organization has set.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602210.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:23 AM

"Gilby is not a max money player even if he was healthy"

Great Quote....If we sign gilly which I pray we don't it better not be for more than 80 or 90 mil and even that will disappoint me. If we give him a contract like Rashard Lewis the wizards are screwed unless they go into the luxury tax.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:24 AM

Ivan, have you heard from Caron lately? The floods in Wisconsin have affected Racine, where Caron is from.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:25 AM

"Great Quote....If we sign gilly which I pray we don't it better not be for more than 80 or 90 mil and even that will disappoint me. If we give him a contract like Rashard Lewis the wizards are screwed unless they go into the luxury tax.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 10:24 AM "

Whoever you are, you are smart and reasonable. That's what makes this blog great!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:26 AM

Monte, I agree with your Gil comments 100%. Don't know why anyone ever takes Gil quotes to heart. His plan is to get into a long term contract ASAP because of his injuries. He's signing with us max or no max. Our main concern should be where do we go from here.
Based on what we all see and hear, Gil and AJ are going to be here. AJ is not going to sign with us for anything less than 4 or 5 years. This is his last big contract so I'm sure he'll wanna make it count. Gil is looking for 6 years, as well. The problem is this...With 2 guys committed to long term contracts, we're putting all of our eggs in this basket. It looks to me like Abe is shooting his wad with the team we have. There's no turning back after we re-sign these 2 guys. The flaws that haunt this team today may haunt us for at least 4 or 5 years. If it doesn't work out, those 2 guys are untradeable until the last years of their contracts. In other words, we HAVE to win with them. We may as well start making sure that the pieces of the puzzle that we collect complement Gil and AJ right now.
That means assembling a team with a C who is a good rebounder and good help defender to make up for AJ's size issues. That also means finding a good SG who can play good defense and make open shots when Gil is doubled. I'm not sure we have either one of those guys in Haywood and Stevenson. BTH is a decent rebounder but not great. Deshawn is streaky with his jumper.
As much as I hate saying this, we're probably suited more to small ball than any other style. It's not necessarily a bad thing because we were able to handle the Celtics this year with a smallish lineup. I'm not sure it'll get us past the Pistons or cavs, though.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 10:27 AM

This team needs to let both jamison and arenas go and either rebuild and try to become like the blazers

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 10:18 AM

Yea, because if there was one team that I want the Wizards to become, it's the Portland Trailblazers. Maybe then when we come close to making the playoffs, we can pat ourselves on the back for trying hard.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 10:28 AM

Real suprise gilbert isn't saying we have to add a championship attitude or championship type players.....nope instead he is saying he wants to be treated like a champion. He wants the locker rooms to be better and he will play harder. This is exactly why I hate Gilbert Arenas. Same as the Portland game he guaranteed 50 and dropped 9 and then complained and said EJ wanted him to play Defense. THE GUY NEVER GETS IT AND NEVER WILL.....HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS STATS, FAME AND MONEY. Send him to the clippers and be done with him....let him try to outshine Kobe in LA

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:30 AM

homeboy, Arenas and Jamison already have assurances from Abe that they'll be back. Jamison is going to get LESS money than he made last year. Arenas has greater value in DC than he does anywhere else. His value to other teams is meaningless in this scenario because it is outweighed by his value here. Stop acting like he's getting 15Mil out of thin air when in reality it would be a 2.2Mil raise over what he was scheduled to make. 2.2 more than you had previously agreed to pay him for THE guy who sells tickets in your building. Sports are entertainment, the guy who puts butts in the seats gets paid.

Does Abe have a track record of overspending on stars? Ask Juwan Howard that question.

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 10:31 AM

"Yea, because if there was one team that I want the Wizards to become, it's the Portland Trailblazers. Maybe then when we come close to making the playoffs, we can pat ourselves on the back for trying hard"


PSPS23...talk to me in about 5 years when the blazers are in the western conference finals every year and are the most dominant team in basketball. They have a future....the wizards have a bunch of question marks. The blazers have young possible stars at almost every position except PG. Any GM in the league would love to have the blazers current roster. Also Portland was only 2 games worse than the wiz this year with that young roster in the western conference. Next year they will be better than the Wiz and would have been better than us this year if we were in the West. Next time you try to call me out how bout you do a little research or know something about the NBA.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:39 AM

Wrong. The smart business decision was 2 years ago where EG offered to extend Gilby's contract, but instead, Gilby got greedy and that option went away. Now he wishes he had signed that extension.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:14 AM

Wrong again. His decision in the past has nothing to do with what the smart business decision is now. The smart business decision NOW is to opt out of the contract and sign long-term. I'm glad you can use hindsight in your analysis though. It takes a special kind of vision to analyze a past decision when you know the outcome.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 10:40 AM

?? Why would Gil sign an extension when he can wait and opt out for more money like he's doing now? It was a good business move on his part. The demand for his services is still there. All he needs is one team to think he's worth max or near max money and he has that one team... Washington Wizards.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 10:45 AM

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 10:39 AM

How about you come talk to me once the blazers are in the playoffs. The blazers have "young possible stars." The Wizards ALREADY have 3 proven stars. The Wizards also have young talent developing. The blazers are FAR from competing for the western conference. If you mentioned a team like the Lakers or Hornets, I might have respect for your decision. But mentioning a young team simply for the fact of being young is about as dumb as it can get.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:47 AM

I didn't get that either. If he is about to get a lot more money over the life of the contract, why was it a smarter business decision to sign an extension early for less? The goal in business is to make money right?

I bet the contract he signs shocks a lot of people.

People seem to think there is some link between paying more and winning more. This link is purely imaginary. I'm sure there is some story from January of 07 worth revisiting though, how relevant...

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 10:49 AM

ANY GM in the league would trade the Wizards entire roster for Blazers in a heart beat. The Wizards 3 so called stars go home in the 1st round every year. Like I said talk to me in about 5 years when the Blazers are on top of the West. It also has nothing to do with the fact they are just young. They won what 12 or 13 straight games this year. Brandon Roy was being talked about as an MVP candidate for a while, Lamarcus Aldridge is going to be an allstar, Martell webster nothing but potential, Outlaw on his way up. Like I said they were 2 games worse than the wiz this past year and thats without Oden and then are bringing the spanish SF over this year cant think of his name but he is going to be a stud, they have another lottery pick this year...they have 3 young talented PG's and this is all with Darius Miles eating up cap room. The Blazers are a better team and will be a better team in the future that the Wiz will ever be. I would take roy, aldridge, and Oden(even without ever playing in an NBA game) over our BIG 3 anyday.....So would any reasonable GM.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 10:56 AM

"I didn't get that either. If he is about to get a lot more money over the life of the contract, why was it a smarter business decision to sign an extension early for less? The goal in business is to make money right?

I bet the contract he signs shocks a lot of people.

People seem to think there is some link between paying more and winning more. This link is purely imaginary. I'm sure there is some story from January of 07 worth revisiting though, how relevant...

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 10:49 AM "

Ummm, because it's about risk vs. reward.

When he turned down that extension offer, I said at that time that he was assuming a huge risk because he could get hurt and his market value will diminish.

Fast forward 2 years and what you see is what I said.

It's not about paying more and winning more. It's about paying smartly and winning. Paying Gilby anywhere near max is not smart.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 10:58 AM

"Wrong again. His decision in the past has nothing to do with what the smart business decision is now. The smart business decision NOW is to opt out of the contract and sign long-term. I'm glad you can use hindsight in your analysis though. It takes a special kind of vision to analyze a past decision when you know the outcome.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 10:40 AM "

Gilby opting out now is not the smart decision. It's the only decision.

Sure, he could play out his final year, but I don't think even Gilby is that dumb.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 11:00 AM

A convenient jumping point to see what all the websites see as who's taking who is this NBA page:
http://www.nba.com/draft2008/board/mock.html
Click on each website to see what their picks are from 1-30 and then most of them also have second round picks.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 11:11 AM

I think it was particularly telling that Arenas said he will be out of the country in China from June 30 - July 15th. Pretty hard for him to have negotiations with the Wiz or anyone else from the Far East. This is consistent with his statements that he won't return unless the Wiz resign AJ. Since the free agnecy period opens July 1st, one would expect the Wiz to either lock up Jamison quickly or risk losing him to other suitors. My money is on the Wiz offering him a 4-5 year deal at around $10M per year. No guarantee he will accept, but its obvious that both Abe and EG won't him back in a Wiz uniform.

GA will come back in mid-July and size up the situation pending Jamison's decision. I still don't see any other team offering as much or more to a guy coming off of two knee surgeries who hasn't proved he can ever be the same player, but stranger things have happened. It wouldn't shock me for GA to sign a one-year deal elsewhere and then go back on the open market if Jamison were not signed.

IF AJ AND GA LEAVE, THEN THE TEAM HAS BEEN BLOWN UP AND EG WILL BE ABLE TO REBUILD FROM SCRATCH!!!

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 10, 2008 11:12 AM

I would take roy, aldridge, and Oden(even without ever playing in an NBA game) over our BIG 3 anyday.....So would any reasonable GM.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 10:56 AM

Blanket statements like this are about as speculative as it gets. The Blazers were, what, 9-10 games out of a playoff spot? The Wizards, on the other hand, made the playoffs without their most talented player and 3-time all-star for essentially the entire season. The ONLY argument against the Wizards big 3 is whether or not they can stay healthy - and Greg Oden casts as much doubt on that for the Blazers as Gilbert Arenas does for the Wizards. Aldridge and Roy can only hope to become as productive as Jamison and Butler. If you want to ride one thirteen game win streak as a reason for the Blazer's future as the most dominant team in the NBA, go ahead. I'll stick with reality. The Blazers are a decent team with decent talent, but far from proven. The Wizards are a good team with outstanding talent, but haven't been able to put together a healthy season. If one's got to give, I'll take the Wizards ending their run of bad luck with injuries.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 11:12 AM

"Blanket statements like this are about as speculative as it gets. The Blazers were, what, 9-10 games out of a playoff spot? The Wizards, on the other hand, made the playoffs without their most talented player and 3-time all-star for essentially the entire season. The ONLY argument against the Wizards big 3 is whether or not they can stay healthy - and Greg Oden casts as much doubt on that for the Blazers as Gilbert Arenas does for the Wizards. Aldridge and Roy can only hope to become as productive as Jamison and Butler. If you want to ride one thirteen game win streak as a reason for the Blazer's future as the most dominant team in the NBA, go ahead. I'll stick with reality. The Blazers are a decent team with decent talent, but far from proven. The Wizards are a good team with outstanding talent, but haven't been able to put together a healthy season. If one's got to give, I'll take the Wizards ending their run of bad luck with injuries.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 11:12 AM "

Huh?

The Wiz ended up 4 games above .500 in the suckee suckee east. In contrast, the Blazkers ended .500 in the West.

Only 3 teams in the east had records good enough to qualify for the West playoffs.

Therefore, being "9-10 games out of a playoff spot" when comparing the Blazers to the Wiz doesn't mean much, if anything.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 11:17 AM

I'm responding to last weeks blog where Ivan said that Gil wanted to wait until the final day which was June 20th to opt out for Jun 30th. That's to secure him his final year pay in case something was to happen. Now he's saying he filed the paper work to opt out Friday of last week. If he knows he will be a unrestricted agent by the 30th, why would he plan to leave the country that same day for 3 weeks.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 11:18 AM

"GA will come back in mid-July and size up the situation pending Jamison's decision. I still don't see any other team offering as much or more to a guy coming off of two knee surgeries who hasn't proved he can ever be the same player, but stranger things have happened. It wouldn't shock me for GA to sign a one-year deal elsewhere and then go back on the open market if Jamison were not signed.

IF AJ AND GA LEAVE, THEN THE TEAM HAS BEEN BLOWN UP AND EG WILL BE ABLE TO REBUILD FROM SCRATCH!!!

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 10, 2008 11:12 AM "

Gilby leaving right as free agency starts, without an agent, is a bad move for him.

If teams think he's being difficult now when they are trying to pitch him, then it'll be worse if they sign him.

When Gilby returns, all the teams that could have afforded him may have signed others by then.

From there, EG can give Gilby whatever EG sees fit. If Gilby starts crying, then what we will see is a sign and trade.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 11:20 AM

"he could get hurt and his market value will diminish. Fast forward 2 years and what you see is what I said." said hammertime.

You said he'd get hurt and his value would diminish... yet he's about to sign a huge contract proving his value has not diminished even after the injury. He's going to get considerable more money than if he had followed your "business savvy". Which makes this the smarter business decision, just common sense really.

I've never seen anyone, given the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, still get it wrong. Spectacular!

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 11:23 AM

Huh?

The Wiz ended up 4 games above .500 in the suckee suckee east. In contrast, the Blazkers ended .500 in the West.

Only 3 teams in the east had records good enough to qualify for the West playoffs.

Therefore, being "9-10 games out of a playoff spot" when comparing the Blazers to the Wiz doesn't mean much, if anything.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 11:17 AM

Unless the Blazers somehow plan to move to the eastern conference, then it means everything. The whole "western conference is better than the eastern conference" means nothing when it comes to the regular season. All that matters are the teams that make the playoffs. Any by the way, the sucky eastern conference is currently ahead in the NBA finals 2-0 over the dominant west.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 11:24 AM

^^It doesn't work that way in the NBA. At some point this may sink in, DsliCe.

Posted by: Monte | June 10, 2008 11:26 AM

Next topic please.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 11:27 AM

Best fit for the limited minutes he will play. Draft Hibbert!

Posted by: Go Hibbert | June 10, 2008 11:52 AM

"Unless the Blazers somehow plan to move to the eastern conference, then it means everything. The whole "western conference is better than the eastern conference" means nothing when it comes to the regular season. All that matters are the teams that make the playoffs. Any by the way, the sucky eastern conference is currently ahead in the NBA finals 2-0 over the dominant west.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 11:24 AM "

LOL!

In case you missed it, it was you who compared the Blazers with the Wiz first.

"Blanket statements like this are about as speculative as it gets. The Blazers were, what, 9-10 games out of a playoff spot? The Wizards, on the other hand, made the playoffs without their most talented player and 3-time all-star for essentially the entire season."

Chew on that.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:11 PM

way too many haters in here. this blog blows

Posted by: dt | June 10, 2008 12:12 PM

how much does it pay to be a professional douche bag?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 12:14 PM

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:11 PM

Right, and I'm saying that the Blazers have much more catching up to do in order to be compared to the Wizards because they're still 9-10 games behind the teams they're competing against. The Wizards, on the other hand, have already crossed the postseason boundary, and are now focused on how to take it to the next level. The Blazers are just trying to figure out how to be a playoff team. The Wizards already are one.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 12:26 PM

Javale McGee has to be the guy. . . . This is the writeup on him:

***

"Good motor for a big man."

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:23 AM

now the downside on McGee...


"Looks very disinterested at times, doesn't hustle, gives up on plays, late getting back down the floor, . . ."

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:29 AM

?????????????

It sounds like he's a rawer version of Bosh. While Hibbert would be cool, maybe we need to look at a guy who can play both PF and C. I also like Patrick Ewing jr. in the 2nd round if we're going big.


Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:23 AM

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 10, 2008 12:34 PM

"Right, and I'm saying that the Blazers have much more catching up to do in order to be compared to the Wizards because they're still 9-10 games behind the teams they're competing against. The Wizards, on the other hand, have already crossed the postseason boundary, and are now focused on how to take it to the next level. The Blazers are just trying to figure out how to be a playoff team. The Wizards already are one.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 12:26 PM "

Right, so why are you comparing a team that is "9-10" games from the playoffs, but playing .500 ball with a team that's 3 years in a row one and done and also hover around .500 ball?

The Wiz can be blown up this summer, while the Blazers have Olden, Aldridge, Roy, and another lottery pick for the forseable future.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:36 PM

Sorry, this is what I meant for the last post to read:

Javale McGee has to be the guy. . . . This is the writeup on him:

***

"Good motor for a big man."

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:23 AM

now the downside on McGee...


"Looks very disinterested at times, doesn't hustle, gives up on plays, late getting back down the floor, . . ."

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:29 AM

?????????????

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 10, 2008 12:37 PM

"It sounds like he's a rawer version of Bosh. While Hibbert would be cool, maybe we need to look at a guy who can play both PF and C. I also like Patrick Ewing jr. in the 2nd round if we're going big.


Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 8:23 AM

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 10, 2008 12:34 PM "

Huh?

What is PEJr. going to bring that DMac doesn't bring already? PEJr. is not that big....about 6-8.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:38 PM

GA's submitting paperwork to opt out now is just part of his quirky personality...as was the statement that he was 75% sure he'd be back a Wizard. If he wasn't serious about coming back to D.C., then wouldn't he want to be in town July 1st when teams can start talking to FA's? By July 15th, teams with cap room will have signed FA's and/or resigned their own restricted FA's. I would bet that Gil has had "informal" conversations with EG about what he wants already and must have some idea about what they will be offering him.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 10, 2008 12:45 PM

"GA's submitting paperwork to opt out now is just part of his quirky personality...as was the statement that he was 75% sure he'd be back a Wizard. If he wasn't serious about coming back to D.C., then wouldn't he want to be in town July 1st when teams can start talking to FA's? By July 15th, teams with cap room will have signed FA's and/or resigned their own restricted FA's. I would bet that Gil has had "informal" conversations with EG about what he wants already and must have some idea about what they will be offering him.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 10, 2008 12:45 PM "

I think so too. As bad a decision as it may be, I think EG will give Gilby just above what any other team can pay him, but not max.

Then, Gilby will get on TV and say how much he loves DC, the Wiz, and that he wanted to stay here anyway. Money wasn't the issue. He probably has his crockpot warming up right now.

But, I also think that Ivan should be paid some commission fee since he was the one who gave Gilby the heads up about the deadlines.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:53 PM

Right, so why are you comparing a team that is "9-10" games from the playoffs, but playing .500 ball with a team that's 3 years in a row one and done and also hover around .500 ball?

The Wiz can be blown up this summer, while the Blazers have Olden, Aldridge, Roy, and another lottery pick for the forseable future.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 12:36 PM

Because ".500 ball" doesn't matter. All that matters is getting to the playoffs - then what you do after that. The Wiz have proven over and over and over again they can get through the first obstacle. It's about the getting to the next level now - in the postseason. Nobody cares what the regular season standings look like once you get into the postseason. The Blazers are still far from even getting to that point.

The Wiz CAN be blown up, but they can also set their forseeable future with the re-signing of Arenas and Jamison. Portland has proven nothing more than potential. The Wiz have proven they can produce despite devastating injuries to their top guys. They've been one and done 3 years in a row, but they also haven't had all their pieces in the last two. Like I said, if you want to judge them for their injuries - fair enough. But nobody will convince me they're not talented enough.

The Lakers were also ready to be blown up last offseason. Then within 6 months they were atop the western conference with essentially the same team from the season before (before the Gasol trade). Shows you how much one season can do.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 1:00 PM

"Because ".500 ball" doesn't matter. All that matters is getting to the playoffs - then what you do after that. The Wiz have proven over and over and over again they can get through the first obstacle. It's about the getting to the next level now - in the postseason. Nobody cares what the regular season standings look like once you get into the postseason. The Blazers are still far from even getting to that point.

The Wiz CAN be blown up, but they can also set their forseeable future with the re-signing of Arenas and Jamison. Portland has proven nothing more than potential. The Wiz have proven they can produce despite devastating injuries to their top guys. They've been one and done 3 years in a row, but they also haven't had all their pieces in the last two. Like I said, if you want to judge them for their injuries - fair enough. But nobody will convince me they're not talented enough.

The Lakers were also ready to be blown up last offseason. Then within 6 months they were atop the western conference with essentially the same team from the season before (before the Gasol trade). Shows you how much one season can do.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 1:00 PM "

I think the Wiz making it into the playoffs 3 seasons in a row might be big news in DC, but in towns that expect more, the season was a failure.

One and done there seasons in a row is nothing to be proud of. Injuries excuses are for losers. But, the best thing that came out of this past season is that the Wiz proved that they can win without Gilby. Not only that, but they played better as a cohesive team and there was no BS, until Gilby came back.

Hooray!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:10 PM

PSPS23 is a complete moron and obviously a blind homer.

I'm not even wasting my time arguing this point anymore. You are clearly wrong and must not know much about the rest of the NBA. I have argued with you twice now and both times I have come away thinking you are a babbling idiot. Learn something about the NBA then argue with me.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 1:13 PM

"This team needs to let both jamison and arenas go and either rebuild and try to become like the blazers"


yeah sure let's go through all the misery of losing seasons and the lottery draft again..

you're an idiot.

Posted by: ooooo | June 10, 2008 1:17 PM

I think the Wiz making it into the playoffs 3 seasons in a row might be big news in DC, but in towns that expect more, the season was a failure.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:10 PM

Nobody is arguing that the season was a success. But you don't blow up a team that's knocking on the door.

Until you can tangibly point out a positive that comes out of getting rid of Arenas (as in players that we would acquire as a result), then this whole argument is moot. You don't get rid of players for the sake of getting rid of them - you only do it if it makes your team better one way or the other. Getting rid of Arenas does not make this team better. Adding him (when healthy) back to a roster that got the 5th seed in the playoffs will.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:22 PM

yeah sure let's go through all the misery of losing seasons and the lottery draft again..

you're an idiot.

Posted by: ooooo | June 10, 2008 1:17 PM

thank you, someone with some common sense. looks like i'm not the only one who thinks this anon is a moron.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:24 PM

"Nobody is arguing that the season was a success. But you don't blow up a team that's knocking on the door.

Until you can tangibly point out a positive that comes out of getting rid of Arenas (as in players that we would acquire as a result), then this whole argument is moot. You don't get rid of players for the sake of getting rid of them - you only do it if it makes your team better one way or the other. Getting rid of Arenas does not make this team better. Adding him (when healthy) back to a roster that got the 5th seed in the playoffs will.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:22 PM "

The Wiz have been knocking on the door 3 seasons in a row now. This past season, it was glaringly obvious that this team is lacking a 4 who can score AND defend, and they were lacking a young 1 guard who can run the team as a true point guard who can also defend.

Also, this team is not deep and not very athletic up front. Nobody wants to blow up a team, but when you have a 31 year old 4 (but plays like a non defending 3) who wants big money, and a 26 year old (one dimensional offensive player with a bum knee) who wants max money, why mortgage the future on this team?

Adding Gilby to the team doesn't necessarily make them better. In fact, the production on offense is slightly better while the defense is worse. What you get is the same effectiveness with different personnel with the same mediocre results.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:30 PM

"thank you, someone with some common sense. looks like i'm not the only one who thinks this anon is a moron.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:24 PM "

Misery?

Bulls and Heat look pretty happy being in this year's lottery.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:32 PM

PSPS23 is a complete moron and obviously a blind homer.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 1:13 PM

Um no, I'm simply not dumb enough to realize that there's a much greater negative side to blowing up a roster of proven all-stars. But keep with your moronic faith of blowing up the roster, and hoping that maybe 5 years down the road, we we just might be back in the same exact position we're in now.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:33 PM

Misery?

Bulls and Heat look pretty happy being in this year's lottery.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:32 PM

I don't know what you call happy, but having the #1 and #2 overall picks isn't my idea of it. That sounds more like making the best out of a terrible situation - almost like a consolation prize. (And the Bulls are lucky as hell to be in that position. It'd be VERY wishful thinking if the Wiz happened to be able to pull off what the Bulls pulled off).

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:39 PM

The Wiz have been knocking on the door 3 seasons in a row now. This past season, it was glaringly obvious that this team is lacking a 4 who can score AND defend, and they were lacking a young 1 guard who can run the team as a true point guard who can also defend.

Also, this team is not deep and not very athletic up front. Nobody wants to blow up a team, but when you have a 31 year old 4 (but plays like a non defending 3) who wants big money, and a 26 year old (one dimensional offensive player with a bum knee) who wants max money, why mortgage the future on this team?

Adding Gilby to the team doesn't necessarily make them better. In fact, the production on offense is slightly better while the defense is worse. What you get is the same effectiveness with different personnel with the same mediocre results.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:30 PM

If that's your assessment, fine. I think Arenas is FAR from one-dimensional offensively. In fact, I'd say he's probably the most versatile #1 in the league when healthy (not saying he's the best, mind you). There's nothing he can't do offensively, and not even Chris Paul or Deron Williams have his range.

In my opinion, their most glaring need is a serious upgrade at the 2. Deshawn's one saving grace - defensive presence - is what ended up hurting us most in the playoffs. He couldn't even be counted on for that. If anything, they need an improvement over Deshawn as a starter. My hope is that Nick Young grows into that role. Hopefully his improved offense will overshadow the drop in defense.

It'll come down to coaching. If EJ can get his players in line, this will be a top team in the east. And if he can't, then I'll take Arenas over EJ, and find someone else who can. Plain and simple.

Arenas won't be signed for max money anyway. He'll get a lucrative deal, but it won't be close to record-breaking. You only get so many opportunities at a talent like him.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:52 PM

I saw Caron at the movies last week with the wife and daughter. He looked good. The guy is a complete monster.

He's definitely my favorite Wizard...Well second to Opec!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | June 10, 2008 1:52 PM

"Um no, I'm simply not dumb enough to realize that there's a much greater negative side to blowing up a roster of proven all-stars. But keep with your moronic faith of blowing up the roster, and hoping that maybe 5 years down the road, we we just might be back in the same exact position we're in now.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:33 PM "

EG might not have to blow the team up. Both guys could walk and the Wiz would be left with two gaping holes in the lineup.

Now that would be funny, and classic Les Boulez.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:53 PM

EG might not have to blow the team up. Both guys could walk and the Wiz would be left with two gaping holes in the lineup.

Now that would be funny, and classic Les Boulez.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 1:53 PM

That would probably be the most depressing moment of DC sports of the last couple decades if that were to happen(aside from the Sean Taylor tragedy). Going from knocking on the door with legitimate hope for improvement to vying for the #1 lottery pick with nothing to show for it - all in an instant. I have faith in EG.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 2:02 PM

"I have faith in EG.

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 2:02 PM "

Unfortunately, faith is constrained by a budget.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 2:08 PM

88,
Pat Ewing Jr. had a 42 inch vertical at the combine...3rd best EVER. After looking at his measurements, you're right. Ewing is really only 6'6" and has a standing reach of only 8'1" compared to McGuire being 6'7.75" with a standing reach of 8'8". Pat is a lot smaller than I thought he was. We're better of reaching for a backup pg in the second round and letting McGuire's game mature.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 2:09 PM

Sign and trade Arenas plus Pecherov & Blache for Carmelo. Trade Jamison for youth and picks. Draft Hibbert.

Posted by: Dellis | June 10, 2008 2:11 PM

I agree with psps23 that since w've gone down this road, we have to continue. No wants wants to go into this season starting over AGAIN. Arenas played like a top 10-15 player by pretty much any measure a couple years ago when he was healthy. Getting rid of him would be a bigger gamble than keeping him.
This doesn't even take into account the marketing nightmare that losing Gil would cause. If he leaves, do you reprint every piece of marketing material you have and reshoot all of the commercials with his face all over them? I know there are Gil detractors here but like it or not, I think we're stuck with him.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 2:15 PM

"88,
Pat Ewing Jr. had a 42 inch vertical at the combine...3rd best EVER. After looking at his measurements, you're right. Ewing is really only 6'6" and has a standing reach of only 8'1" compared to McGuire being 6'7.75" with a standing reach of 8'8". Pat is a lot smaller than I thought he was. We're better of reaching for a backup pg in the second round and letting McGuire's game mature.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 2:09 PM "

OMG!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 2:15 PM

dellis, did you run this by the trade machine? j/k.
AJ is not ours to trade, I don't believe. I think he's unrestricted.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 2:17 PM

"I know there are Gil detractors here but like it or not, I think we're stuck with him.

Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008 2:15 PM "

Sounds worse than being stuck with an ARM soon to mature and pending foreclosure.

Abe Pollin, real estate magnate, stuck with paying a guy 120 mil. Who woulda thunk?

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 10, 2008 2:17 PM

"In my opinion, their most glaring need is a serious upgrade at the 2. Deshawn's one saving grace - defensive presence - is what ended up hurting us most in the playoffs. He couldn't even be counted on for that. If anything, they need an improvement over Deshawn as a starter. My hope is that Nick Young grows into that role. Hopefully his improved offense will overshadow the drop in defense.

It'll come down to coaching. If EJ can get his players in line, this will be a top team in the east. And if he can't, then I'll take Arenas over EJ, and find someone else who can. Plain and simple."

Posted by: psps23 | June 10, 2008 1:52 PM


Against most teams (with a 2-guard that is 6'-4" to 6'-6" and the opponent's best athlete), DeShawn is our most effective option at the 2.

However, DeShawn struggles against big 2-guards - they just shoot over him, and at the other end, he doesn't have the offensive skills to capitalize on his quickness advantage.

EJ needs to figure this one out, because some of our biggest rivals punish us with big 2-guards.

Change our lineup? New offensive plays? Maybe Gilbert's return to the lineup makes a difference?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 2:42 PM

I would rather have hope then be stuck in mediocrity. Anyways its not just hope the blazers are a better team right now and will be in the future. The wizards are going NOWHERE with this current roster.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 3:04 PM

They're not big 2 guards, they're 3's and it should be Caron's job to guard them, but he gets his butt chewed vs. the likes of LeTravel, Pierce, and Turkolu.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 3:06 PM

We have DeShawn and Caron.

The Cavs use Wally and LeBron. DeShawn is undersized either way.

The Magic has Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis. Again, DeShawn is undersized either way.

The Celtics have Ray Allen and Pierce. DeShawn matches up pretty well against Ray. Not coincidentally, we did pretty well against Boston this year.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 3:16 PM

ANY GM in the league would trade the Wizards entire roster for Blazers in a heart beat.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 10:56 AM

Not so sure about that.

Two summers from now, when LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy are RFAs, they're gonna get paid. And it'll only be the right thing to do. Problem is, the following summer, Oden is an RFA. So how do they keep this team together beyond summer 2010? Either somebody sacrifices and takes less money (which none of those three will do on their first major contract), somebody signs elsewhere or gets traded, or the supporting cast is severely watered down for the following 3-4 years.

Sounds like a two, maybe three year ride to me, not a 4-5 year deal as some have stated. A good problem to have (young stars, that is), I'll gladly admit, but for the Wiz, once we sign Gil and Tawn, our next big contract negotiation (CB3) isn't until summer 2011. Which is an identical three year ride, but with veteran stars (2 out of 3 squarely in their primes), and a very decent supporting cast with both youth and veteran experience.

So with that in mind, its a somewhat close call, but I'd still take the Wiz roster over Portland. Portland is younger, Wiz more experienced. Gil has knee issues, so does Oden. (not to mention that no one has yet seen Oden in action... he could be a bust for all we know!) Blazers nucleus better defensively, Wiz big 3 better offensively. Etc.

Posted by: jones-y | June 10, 2008 4:19 PM

forgot to mention that Portland is already over next year's projected luxury tax threshold by $5m...

Posted by: jones-y | June 10, 2008 4:22 PM

How do you market yourself when you are coming off 2 knee surgeries? When you barely played this past season? I think Arenas might have seen the writing on the wall (i.e. not too many suitors out there for him) and has decided to low-key the whole marketing himself thing. At least this way, when he ends up with the Wizards, he can say that's what he wanted.

easy you take less money go to a bigger market team and get more out of it from endorsements.

Posted by: lynx | June 11, 2008 3:40 PM

We have DeShawn and Caron.

The Cavs use Wally and LeBron. DeShawn is undersized either way.

The Magic has Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis. Again, DeShawn is undersized either way.

The Celtics have Ray Allen and Pierce. DeShawn matches up pretty well against Ray. Not coincidentally, we did pretty well against Boston this year.

Posted by: | June 10, 2008 3:16 PM

Wally may be bigger but DS guarding him wouldn't be a problem.

Turkoglu and Lewis are the forwards for Orlando. Bogans or Evans play the 2, but it's convenient to not include them when you're desperately trying to prove your (incorrect) point.

In the cases of LeBron, Turkoglu, and Pierce - they all really play the 3 so they should match up with Butler who usually does get his butt chewed by them.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 8:50 AM

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