Who Should the Wizards Pick?

The NBA Draft is Thursday night. The Wizards have the 18th overall pick. Here's Ivan Carter's informed guess as to the players/moves the team is most likely considering. What do you do?

By Jon DeNunzio |  June 25, 2008; 2:49 AM ET
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We need Hibbert- a big backup center is one of our biggest needs. This need is difficult to fill off the waiver wire.

Hibbert needs us- we can better utilize Hibbert's best skill, passing, than most any other team.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 5:50 AM

Hibbert does not have small hands. He does not have dubious friends. He is not a project. He knows how to play down low and inside. He can block shots and get rebounds. A big mistake if they let him get away.

Posted by: jt | June 25, 2008 7:14 AM

Someone who can score and rebound around the basket. I like Hibbert.

Posted by: sfam | June 25, 2008 7:30 AM

Wouldn't Hibbert just be a 3rd center behind Etan and Haywood? As often as EJ likes small ball, would he ever get on the court? Not sure what that gets us...I'd love to see one of the top PGs fall this far...or even trade up if we can get one. With AD getting older and agent 0 a constant mystery, a solid backup/spot starter seems like the best possible scenario to me.

Posted by: rg | June 25, 2008 7:42 AM

i feel like arthur is no-brainer if he falls to 18. he has been projected to go in the lottery from what i've seen, and he would have the perfect role model in jamison. talk about small ball...EJ could play blatche at the 5 and arthur at the 3 with jamison, arenas and stephenson and have a team that would be hard to slow down.

Posted by: akdeac31 | June 25, 2008 8:16 AM

Roy Hibbert = Party John Ramos with a GU sweatshirt

Posted by: Hot Plate | June 25, 2008 8:31 AM

Hibbert IMO (which doesnt count for much) does not fit well with the second unit--Daniels, Young, Blatche, McGuire etc all are more athletic, up-tempo type. Hibbert is best suited for a half court game. So I guess the question is what are the Wiz trying to do--run and gun or play more half court.

I like Arthur or Hickson, though Hickson seems to be more of a risk. I think Bowie State had a good PG, maybe the Wiz take a local! (just kidding, who cares where the player is from--get the best player at 18 possible--which may or may not be Hibbert).

Posted by: joNAThan | June 25, 2008 8:43 AM

I agree-take the best player possible, regardless of position, unless there's a solid back-up PG to be had in trade.

I'm glad to hear that Etan has been cleared. Thanks for throwing that in, Ivan. :)

Posted by: Lou | June 25, 2008 8:48 AM

My lord this blog is just a bunch of homers. Roy Hibbert is going to be the biggest bust ever!!!! I will beyond bitter if we draft him.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 8:59 AM

Personally I like JJ Hickson because he is a great athlete, a good rebounder, and he would have been a lottery pick next year if he went back to school and had a solid soph season. He seems like one of those guys like Josh Smith that ends up being better than most of the lottery picks. Hickson could also be a bust, I'm not completely sold on him, but I think when you have the 18th pick in the draft you can afford to make a pick based on potential and not production. I like Hibbert, just not on this team. Arthur is a nice player and a winner, but I'm not sold on the theory that because he has a Jamison like game he would be a good fit on this team. The Wiz already have one Jamison (I'm assuming that re-signing him is a given), I would rather have a guy that is a better rebounder backing him up. Just my 2 cents on it. I always really enjoy the Draft (when the Wizards have a pick) and I am looking foward to the summer league to see what Blatche, Young, McGuire and the picks this year look like.

Posted by: Curtis | June 25, 2008 9:16 AM

I guess B. Rush and CDR have boosted themselves out of our league now.....I'd take either over Hibbert any day of the week.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | June 25, 2008 9:33 AM

"So I guess the question is what are the Wiz trying to do--run and gun or play more half court."

The Wizards already play a lot of half-court. The vaunted "Princeton offense" is a half-court offense. They just don't play it very effectively because they have no inside presence to space the floor for their shooters. Hibbert could change that.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 9:42 AM

If Lopez is out then I'll take Hibbert. The Wiz is abundant is the PF position (AJ, Blatche and Songalia) already. Etan is an undersize C, he can be a PF as well. If they lose Mason then they need another swingman as well.

Posted by: Roy | June 25, 2008 9:47 AM

"I guess B. Rush and CDR have boosted themselves out of our league now.....I'd take either over Hibbert any day of the week."


Brandon Rush will be 10 times the player Hibbert is.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 9:51 AM

Princeton Offense consist of a lot of cutting, passing and ball movement. It is not an inside-outside offense. The Wiz just don't have the players to execute it properly in a regular basis.

Posted by: Dave | June 25, 2008 10:07 AM

People were complaining all last season about BTH's lack of quickness to get back in defending the high screens and in defending the pick and roll.

Hibbert is not known for his footspeed and is probably not as good a shotblocker as BTH. Hibbert is probably a better one on one defender, but because Gilby doesn't play any D, Hibbert would have to help out as BTH helps out, and would have trouble also.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 10:10 AM

EG and every other gm has to look over at whats going on in Portland and be a little envious. The Blazers are constantly buying first round picks, which enables their gm to do whatever it takes to improve their team. sigh (When is Leonsis taking over?)

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 10:23 AM

Best player available with this team, we're not on the brink of a championship here, guys. You take Donte Greene, somewhat local kid, went to Syracuse, tremendous athleticism, huge upside. Greene/Young would be a very promising duo down the line.

Posted by: Jason | June 25, 2008 10:31 AM

I still want the Wiz to acquire Brand. I just don't know how his salary situation would mesh with the Wiz and how much they would have to give up for him. If we don't move the pick, I would go for Chalmers or Hibbert.

Posted by: Larry | June 25, 2008 10:32 AM

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EG and every other gm has to look over at whats going on in Portland and be a little envious. The Blazers are constantly buying first round picks, which enables their gm to do whatever it takes to improve their team. sigh (When is Leonsis taking over?)

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 10:23 AM "

It's interesting how the Mitch Lawrence report that EG had a back room deal with Gilby before free agency started hasn't blown up.

Otherwise, Stern would be cracking down, and Abe would be firing EG and cutting Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 10:32 AM

(When is Leonsis taking over?) => Not soon enough.

@Kalorama, good point. I agree that they do play the Princeton a lot, but clearly not effective enough, that's why I ponder if they will move to be more transition oriented. If they want to run the Princeton, it does make sense to get the players needed to run it. Bottom line--and it seems like many on here would agree--if you are going to run a system, get the right parts.

Any ideas on what the plans are regarding Mason and/or a replacement?

Posted by: joNAThan | June 25, 2008 10:34 AM

"I still want the Wiz to acquire Brand. I just don't know how his salary situation would mesh with the Wiz and how much they would have to give up for him. If we don't move the pick, I would go for Chalmers or Hibbert.

Posted by: Larry | June 25, 2008 10:32 AM "

EG can move Gilby for Brand as soon as Gilby resigns. Gone will be Gilby's leverage.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 10:34 AM

Does it bother anyone else that we are going to be throwing out the same team that has lost in the first round of the playoffs for two straight years to the same team?

No draft pick is going to change that and dropping all our money in AJ and Gil doesn't change anything. We're still a team with no PG, and a 4 that's more likely a 3.

Oh, and injury prone...

Posted by: CB | June 25, 2008 10:40 AM

Best player available with this team...

Posted by: Jason | June 25, 2008 10:31 AM

Ultimately I agree. Now who that best player is is up for debate, but Grunfeld shouldn't obsess over team needs.

A few of the players from the mid to late portion of the draft will have long and successful NBA careers, and the Wizards should be looking to find one.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 25, 2008 10:41 AM

Excellent point, Hibbert's lateral quickness is what lead to his foul trouble at Gtown. That and players flopping from the least bit of contact. I do think Eddie would play him though. Ultimately they want someone who will help this year.

I am 100% against Darrell Arthur. Same with Donte Greene. Arthur is a rebounding SF without a handle or extended jumpshot. He's AJ without the 3 point shooting or offensive arsenal. We've got 4 guys with his same skill set already and thats part of the problem. None of them can defend their position well enough. I bet Cleveland will be quaking in their cavalier boots when they hear we added another "power forward" who is smaller than Lebron by an inch and 30 pounds.

At least Hibbert can hold his ground in the post and score a number of ways. His rebounding rate isn't great though, either is Robin Lopez's but those two block shots as well as anyone we could get at 18.

Speights takes a lot of grief because he's not the brightest bulb in the drawer. There's no IQ test for the All-Star game though. That kid out produced Hibbert in a lot of ways.

Hickson is intriguing because he is the young bull of the group. He gets the ball and scores it, mostly through his opponent. He draws fouls and finishes strong through contract. We've been waiting and waiting for a low post scorer who can force double teams... well?


Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 10:44 AM

Does it bother anyone else that we are going to be throwing out the same team that has lost in the first round of the playoffs for two straight years to the same team?

No draft pick is going to change that and dropping all our money in AJ and Gil doesn't change anything. We're still a team with no PG, and a 4 that's more likely a 3.

Oh, and injury prone...

Posted by: CB | June 25, 2008 10:40 AM

Injury prone or a team that's had bad luck that could change at any moment. I guess it depends on what you believe.

I personally think if this team's big three stays healthy and the young guys continue to improve (along with Haywood's improvement), they'll be good enough to move past the 1st round, and get perhaps further.

I'm not opposed to some radical changes in the team, but only if it makes the team better. Frankly, if EG decided to "blow-up" this team, then I'd suspect the team would only get worse in the short-term and long-term.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 25, 2008 10:48 AM

JJ Hickson strikes me as just another 2006 NC State draftee Cedric Simmons - has he done anything since he got drafted?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 10:50 AM

Anyone who watched the Wiz against the Cavs in the playoffs knows are biggest need is interior size/presence. Cleveland's front line KILLED us on the boards and got second/third offensive chances due to their offensive rebounding, not to mention Zydrunas killing us when Brendan was on the bench. If Hibbert is available, I say take him and we'll have a guy who will contribute fron day one since he is familiar with the Princeton offense and is undoubtedly a better offensive player that Haywood.

Posted by: Firuz | June 25, 2008 10:52 AM

EG and every other gm has to look over at whats going on in Portland and be a little envious. The Blazers are constantly buying first round picks, which enables their gm to do whatever it takes to improve their team. sigh (When is Leonsis taking over?)

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 10:23 AM

Portland is THE role-model for how to run a NBA team, very impressive. Portland is STOCKED with talent, but look at their workout schedule, the worked out more players than any other NBA team. Portland has stat guys who pour over and analyze player data.....and now they bought into the draft?? Heck yeah, in a draft this deep (2009 blows)

Portland is relentless in its efforts to improve their team and I admire that.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 25, 2008 10:53 AM

"EG can move Gilby for Brand as soon as Gilby resigns. Gone will be Gilby's leverage."

Wrong.

Again.

The only way Grunfeld could trade Arenas for Brand in a S&T is if Arenas agreed to it before hand. (And if Brand opts out of his deal and both players are FAs, then both players would have to agree to it).

If Grunfeld signs Arenas to a new deal without a S&T agreement in place, he will not be able to trade him until Dec. 15 at the earliest. By that time Brand will have either (A) re-signed with the Clippers, which would signal a commitment by both parties to stick it out, (B) been signed-and-traded to another team, who would have no incentive to turn around and trade him for Arenas or (C) signed as a FA outright with another team, who would have no incentive to turn around and trade him for Arenas.

The idea that Grunfeld could sign Arenas to a deal under the pretense of keeping him, then turn around and trade him after his "leverage" is gone is flat out wrong.

Again.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 10:55 AM

If you are going for the best player available you take Donte Greene. Only thing is your are drafting a guy with a face up game just like Antawn Jamison if you take him. Hibbert is the safe bet. Everyone is down on him since he is a senior, but he has skills and will probably be a solid backup center in the league, but just not sure how he fits in with that second unit. He's going to be sitting the pine all year w/o a doubt. Then what do you with Pech and Blatch's minutes?

Posted by: Don | June 25, 2008 10:58 AM

With the possible signing of AJ & Gil, their contracts will probably include some variation of a no-trade clause, just like Etan Thomas' deal (not necessarily a no-trade clause, but a trade kicker).

Being that AJ & Gil are more established players earning 8 figures/year with their new respective deals, there will probably be a more clear cut no trade clause. So hold your "Players loss of leverage once they sign" chants until the final terms of the contracts, if applicable, are released...

Posted by: CN | June 25, 2008 10:58 AM

Pardon the cut and paste reference from draftexpress below but candidate JJ Hickson has potential to fulfill some of the wiz needs mentioned by others, he is a banger inside, an intimidating low post player. Hibbert is also a possibility but Hickson may have more of an upside. He is younger and a work in progress; how coachable he is and how his game will translate in the NBA is a crapshoot but that's the nature of a #18 pick.

"The majority of Hickson's game revolves around his ability to play with his back to the basket, despite standing just 6-8 or 6-9. Over 50% of his offense comes on post moves (the rest mostly on cuts to the basket and offensive rebounds)...The things he does well, though, Hickson is extremely talented at--as evidenced by the terrific 59% he shoots from the field. He's a very reliable presence cutting to the rim or running the floor in transition, thanks to his superb length, hands, strength, toughness, aggressiveness, and the way he finishes around the rim. He likes to dunk everything he gets his hands on, being extremely quick getting off his feet, and having no problem going right through contact--drawing a good amount of fouls in the process.

Posted by: myshkin | June 25, 2008 10:58 AM

Unless he shoes remarkable improvement between now and the start of next season, Pecherov probably won't be getting any minutes regardless. He is simply not an NBA caliber player yet and has a lot of work to do before he gets to the point where there's any justification to give him regular minutes. He should start next season in the D-League.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:00 AM

Good point Kalorama on the 12/15/08 date on trading any newly signed players (unless it's a sign-and-trade), which was used when there were calls to trade for Darko (hahah!) last year after he signed with Memphis...

Posted by: CN | June 25, 2008 11:00 AM

Make that:

Unless he shows remarkable improvement ...

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:01 AM

Scatorama....great...we can trade Gilby on Dec. 15!

I'll mark it on my calendar!

But, it is very true that once Gilby signs, he's lost leverage. Before, he said that any team should not trade for him because there's no guarantee that he would resign with them. He made that threat. After resigning, it will become OBE.

Lost is that leverage once he becomes a commodity to the Wiz again, be it with LA or another team. Let's hope Gilby is not smart enough to put a "no trade clause" into his contract, especially since he has no agent.


Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 11:02 AM

And just like that, the goal posts are on the move ...

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:04 AM

Darrell Arthur
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Mario Chalmers
Roy Hibbert
J.J. Hickson
Marresse Speights
DeAndre Jordan
Brandon Rush

*If the Wizards can't draft either of those players I suggest that they trade out of the draft completely, and either add vetearns or future draft picks.

- All of these guys are mid to late first round picks, witht he exception of brandon Rush who is shooting up the board right now. As far as second round selections, I really don't care who they take, honestly. I believe when you get down to the nitty gritty which is the 2nd round, you must take best available.

Posted by: A Stoic Fan | June 25, 2008 11:04 AM

No to "best player available."
Yes to "best defender available."

Time to start getting serious about defense on Fun Street.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 11:06 AM

http://www.nbadraft.net/mocks/2009_nba_mock_draft.html

assuming that the wizards hold the same picks next year. I found it intersting that nbadraft.net has us taking TWO shooting guards.

i'm hoping that the kid Manyor from VCU doesn't have this break out year resulting him being choosen with one of the lottery picks.

unless of course the Wizards completely stink the joint up next year, of course.

Posted by: A Stoic Fan | June 25, 2008 11:11 AM

Amen Firuz. I keep saying you can't have a defensive liability at 4, the "6'9 230" Jamison, and NOT have a someone to compensate for that coming off the bench. Bringing in 6'9 Etan Thomas or 6'8 Darius Songalia doesn't address anything. I see Blatche as a 4 longterm, he still a work I progress.

I don't think Roy Hibbert is going to be great, but he does seem to fit exactly what we need in terms of shot blocking, interior size, interior scoring and ability to make an impact right away.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 11:17 AM

"And just like that, the goal posts are on the move ...

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:04 AM "

And you, the mutt boy that you are, will always follow.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 11:21 AM

No to "best player available."
Yes to "best defender available."

Time to start getting serious about defense on Fun Street.

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 11:06 AM

hey man, I hear ya. I've always wanted the wizards to commit ore to the defensive end of the floor, but as Gilbert said, "you are, who you are". I think about D'Antoni and how his lack of attention to defense cost him his job with the Suns. Eddie Jordan always emhasises defense, but seemed content with the wizards gving up almost 100 pts. per. so i'm not sure with eddie jordan and gilbert arenas around, the wizards will be a defensive minded team.

and as far as defensive talent in the draft, i think that is a reach. to me it seems that most players find it easier to find their offensive game than their defensive game. these days its hard for a rookie to become a good defender right out of college with all the hand-checks and ticky tack fouls.

Posted by: a stoic fan | June 25, 2008 11:22 AM

Drafting specialists (like defenders and shooters) is what second round picks are for. In the first round, esp. in the top 20, getting the best/most talented player on the board is the almost always the best way to go.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:31 AM

I really like J.J. Hickson, I think he would add some toughness to the wizards. I also like robin lopez, I think he is a smart player and very mobile for a man of his size. I just think the wiz need a tough minded player to come in and get the loose balls and play really hard. This team is not that far off and if they could land just one player who can bang the boards and play some defense, well who knows what come happen. The celtics were a really bad team a yr. ago and now their the champs, as kg said anythings possible.

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 11:34 AM

we have all seen hibbert play and like him - but come on! you saw what he was like last year. he's too smart of a player to be a total stiff, but he'll be close. he is, um, SLOW. just like juan dixon was maybe, just maybe just a tiny bit over-valued by wiz fans, so too is hibbert. bad bad fit for this team.

Posted by: random dude | June 25, 2008 11:37 AM

If the Wiz can't get Darrell Arthur, then we should draft Mario Chalmers (Devin Harris mold) if he's available. We need a defensive minded 1 guard who can score and defend.

If we can get Mario, then we should definitely consider trading Gilby for Brand.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 11:45 AM

According to Chad Ford on ESPN, Riley wants nothing to do with Beasley and the Heat might be shopping that pick. What chance would there be for the Wizards to get involved in that and try to acquire the second pick? Is that completely out of the realm of possibility?

And apparently the Heat like OJ Mayo and think he can be a "Gilbert Arenas-like point guard".

Posted by: Kev | June 25, 2008 11:48 AM

Try and deal the pick and Etan for a solid inside guy. Hibbert is soft, sorry.

Posted by: Will | June 25, 2008 11:49 AM

I agree with the bloggers about D. Arthur (with Jamison to groom him), or, especially, Mario Chalmers. I think Agent 0 needs the pressure of an up and coming Combo / PG to keep him on track, (Nick Young worships Gil a bit too much; I believe Chalmers would be completely unfazed by Gilbert, and force him to perhaps behave like an adult and not a simpleton). Also, AD could groom a Chalmers (and Chalmers could, hopefully, pick up where Roger Mason left off with his outside shot and on-ball defensive skills).

Posted by: Guisher | June 25, 2008 11:51 AM

This secondary group of bigs (McGee, Speights, Koufos, Lopez, Ajinca, Ibaka, Jordan, Thompson, Hibbert or Hickson) are defined by their differences and their projected time lines. How they fit into your team will be a huge factor.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 11:53 AM

Dixon couldn't have been too overvalued by the Wiz, since they let him go when his deal was up.

I also thought he was taken too high at the time, but looking at the draft board from 2002, the only players still there who, based on his career since, would have made justifiable picks at #17 were Prince and Boozer. Prince exceeded everyone's expectations of him as a pro, and you can't really fault the Wiz too much for dropping the ball on Boozer in round 1 since, for some reason, every team/GM in the NBA did the same.

Given the other available choices, Dixon actually wasn't a bad pick. Not a great one by any means, but they could have done a lot worse.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:53 AM

The #2 pick, for the Wizards to acquire that it would cost #18, maybe our #1 in 2009 and Caron Butler. He's the only guy Miami would want from us. To make salaries work we get Mark Blount. No thanks.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 12:01 PM

kalorama - don't disagree with you about the pick - maybe a little high for him, but not too bad. i meant more just the fan devotion to him (understandable) led them (fans, not management) to over-rate his value. just looking at how hibbert is winning by a large margin in the poll here, the same thing is going on, i think. he's a nice local guy, but i'm skeptical about him as a pro - hope he proves me wrong though.

Posted by: random dude | June 25, 2008 12:03 PM

if hibbert could not dominate at 7-2 in college, he will be not be a good pro! mark my words. love him as a local kid and wish him the best, but he will not be a nightly contributor in the pros. he's is not physical enough. he can score, which gives him an upside. but when the 6-9, muscular dudes beat him up and down the court, not to mention on the board he will have to sit.

Posted by: robgreg | June 25, 2008 12:04 PM

Dont trade the pick or take any of those players, Arthur is a great player but we already have enough face up 4's.

Draft the best european center available and maybe in a couple years we can have a decent player.

Posted by: Patrick | June 25, 2008 12:05 PM

the wizards should consider donte green this guy have great athlethism and he is a very good shooter.

Posted by: hjkhk | June 25, 2008 12:07 PM

"Draft the best european center available and maybe in a couple years we can have a decent player."

Wasn't that what they were supposed to be doing when they drafted Pecherov? It's 2 years later and he's still not a decent player.

The Wiz need someone who can help now, or close to it.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 12:08 PM

Trade idea
wizards trade #18 and #47 pick and Etan Thomas to Minnesota for #31 and #34 pick and Marco Jaric

Posted by: pops | June 25, 2008 12:09 PM

Darrell Arthur
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Mario Chalmers
Roy Hibbert
J.J. Hickson
Marresse Speights
DeAndre Jordan
Brandon Rush

*If the Wizards can't draft either of those players I suggest that they trade out of the draft completely, and either add vetearns or future draft picks.

- All of these guys are mid to late first round picks, witht he exception of brandon Rush who is shooting up the board right now. As far as second round selections, I really don't care who they take, honestly. I believe when you get down to the nitty gritty which is the 2nd round, you must take best available.

Posted by: A Stoic Fan | June 25, 2008 11:04 AM

Of those guys, only 3 can really play BOTH defense and offense, from best overall to least IMO - Rush, Chalmers, and CDR.

Hibbert can do a bit both also, but his quickness issues can be exploited a bit more than the other 3 guys' smaller weaknesses.

Hickson could be good in the post, but his defense is supposedly terrible. All the other guys aren't known for their defensive skills either and with some, their offensive skills are very much a work in progress.

Rush is the best player overall on this list and would be a great player on this team, but it looks like he's gonna go in the early teens. If EG can swing a deal to get him, it would awesome.

Chalmers and CDR will also be very good contributors to this team on both ends of the court.

Hibbert can be a very effective player in certain matchups, so he could be a decent and safe pick.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 12:12 PM

"Trade idea
wizards trade #18 and #47 pick and Etan Thomas to Minnesota for #31 and #34 pick and Marco Jaric"

That's a great trade for Minnesota. They get a top 20 pick and get rid of an extra year of salary. Not so much for the Wizards. The Wiz give up a top 20 pick for 2 second rounders and a subpar 30-year old backup guard with a longer salary.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 12:18 PM

"I agree with the bloggers about D. Arthur (with Jamison to groom him), or, especially, Mario Chalmers. I think Agent 0 needs the pressure of an up and coming Combo / PG to keep him on track, (Nick Young worships Gil a bit too much; I believe Chalmers would be completely unfazed by Gilbert, and force him to perhaps behave like an adult and not a simpleton). Also, AD could groom a Chalmers (and Chalmers could, hopefully, pick up where Roger Mason left off with his outside shot and on-ball defensive skills).

Posted by: Guisher | June 25, 2008 11:51 AM "

Hilarious...great!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:19 PM

I still am leaning toward thinking we should take beasley

Posted by: jose | June 25, 2008 12:21 PM

"

kalorama - don't disagree with you about the pick - maybe a little high for him, but not too bad. i meant more just the fan devotion to him (understandable) led them (fans, not management) to over-rate his value. just looking at how hibbert is winning by a large margin in the poll here, the same thing is going on, i think. he's a nice local guy, but i'm skeptical about him as a pro - hope he proves me wrong though.

Posted by: random dude | June 25, 2008 12:03 PM "

The Wiz drafted Dixon because this franchise was at a tailspin after Abe abruptly gave MJ the royal boot. They needed some hometown blood to cool the anger in DC.

Given that, Juan was coming off being the MVP after a championship season at UMd.

Juan had all the momentum going for him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:23 PM

The Wizards have tooooo many young guys as is. They don't have room or time to develop any more. Trade the pick in a package to get a real low post player who rebounds. The Zards are a middle of the pack rebounding team that loves to hoist shots. Make a deal with the pick and maybe another player like Etan, Songaila or even Blatche to make it irresistible.

Posted by: De | June 25, 2008 12:24 PM

"kalorama - don't disagree with you about the pick - maybe a little high for him, but not too bad. i meant more just the fan devotion to him (understandable) led them (fans, not management) to over-rate his value. just looking at how hibbert is winning by a large margin in the poll here, the same thing is going on, i think. he's a nice local guy, but i'm skeptical about him as a pro - hope he proves me wrong though."

I see what you're saying, but in this case the difference is that Hibbert actually does and can fill a demonstrable, specific need on this team, regardless of where he played in college. In Dixon's case, once you put aside the U of MD sentimentality factor, it's hard to find a good reason why the Wizards were in desperate need for an undersized, one-dimensional, streak-shooting gunner of a SG with no real defensive or playmaking skills.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 12:29 PM

what if the wiz would draft chalmers in the 1st rd, and then draft another guard like j.r. giddens or shan foster in the 2nd rd. Then pick up a udfa like will thomas from george mason. I mean the guy has talent when it comes to rebounding and defense. can he not spell jamison some minutes here or there. probably overthinking these whole scenerio. how bout chalmers with the first and dorsey with the second.

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:31 PM

Are we drafting just to beat the Cavs? If so, then consider a PF or Hibbert. If we are drafting to make team better against the league as a whole, then we need to consider that SG is our weakest area. We keep losing to the Cavs but we don't want to make our goal this season to beat the CAVS. We need to consider that we weren't beaten up on the boards against most teams in the league. We were 14th out of 30 in league in rebounding and had a +.40 differential. It's not like we were getting pounded on the glassWe were, however, deficient at the SG position.
Kal has a great point in that Hibbert would require a dbl team because he can score inside and is a good passer. 88 and others also make a good point in that he is slow laterally and our biggest area of need inside is help defense. The thing is..if we draft Hibbert, he's not gonna start anyway or get significant minutes. We know how EJ is with rookies. Drafting Hibbert is drafting for the future and we need help now because our window closes a bit more each day as AJ gets old. Why don't we look at shooting guards? Is Chalmers better than DS? Is he better than Nick Young? If not, don't waste a pick.
For what it's worth, this is my opinion:
As long as Aj is here and starting at PF (and all indications are that he will be) we will need a big defensive minded C who can rebound and block shots. Hibbert is probably not even as good a rebounder as BTH and is slower. I think we need to start NY and hope that he continues to develop. Drafting Hibbert or Chalmers or Green or whomever is nice but no one in this draft will affect us this season.

Posted by: mark | June 25, 2008 12:36 PM

The Wiz have a huge hole in the area of a post scoring and defending 4. That's their #1 priority.

If EG cannot draft someone with that ability, or make a trade to bring someone in who can do this, then this summer would be a complete and utter failure.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:38 PM

I also advocate starting AB at the PF position and bringing AJ in off the bench. It weakens us on starting offense but makes our bench scoring better. Starting AB should make our defense better just based on his ability to block shots or deter guards from penetrating.

Posted by: mark | June 25, 2008 12:40 PM

one things for sure, the wiz need to get better on defense. Interior and on the wing. well actually they could get better at rebounding to. Is there any chance they could get rid of at least one pick and get a seasoned vet than can play defense and still be signable.

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:42 PM

if hibbert could not dominate at 7-2 in college, he will be not be a good pro! mark my words. love him as a local kid and wish him the best, but he will not be a nightly contributor in the pros. he's is not physical enough. he can score, which gives him an upside. but when the 6-9, muscular dudes beat him up and down the court, not to mention on the board he will have to sit.

Posted by: robgreg | June 25, 2008 12:04 PM

Some of us actually watched the guy play regularly for several years and have a different opinion.

He did dominate in college - sometimes. Other times there were other players on the hoyas team that played a greater role in a particular game.

In that half-court paced Hoyas system where all 5 starters could put up a dozen points in any given night you can't expect Hibbert to put up big numbers every night. That includes rebounds as well considering the Hoyas had Summers and Ewing, two very capable rebounders.

Frankly, I'm open to the Wizards drafting a number of players (or perhaps even better, trading the pick), but I do think Hibbert is the most misunderstood player in the draft.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 25, 2008 12:45 PM

I will not sign a contract for $10Mill or more and come off the bench as a 6th man a year after making the all-star team

Posted by: Antawn | June 25, 2008 12:47 PM

"The Wiz drafted Dixon because this franchise was at a tailspin after Abe abruptly gave MJ the royal boot. They needed some hometown blood to cool the anger in DC."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:23 PM


Except, of course, that MJ drafted Dixon while he was GM, even before he unretired to play for the Wizards. Good fact-checking.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 12:48 PM

I also advocate starting AB at the PF position and bringing AJ in off the bench. It weakens us on starting offense but makes our bench scoring better. Starting AB should make our defense better just based on his ability to block shots or deter guards from penetrating.

Posted by: mark | June 25, 2008 12:40 PM

No way that happens. Why pay him almost $10 mil a year then?

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 25, 2008 12:49 PM

I agree with the above poster who targets Rush, Chalmers and CDR. Good two-way players.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 12:49 PM

If the wizards couldn't sign gil(just wondering) where would they go from there and would jamison resign? or does it even matter?

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:50 PM

...no one in this draft will affect us this season.

Posted by: mark | June 25, 2008 12:36 PM

The most important point in this entire thread.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 25, 2008 12:51 PM

The problem is, at least half the teams in the league including the Wiz are STILL looking for that low post player at the 4 or 5 that can play on both ends of the court, otherwise the two post players have to complement each other - as in 4off/5def or 4def/5off. Finding a quality 5 has always been one of the hardest things do do in the league, that's why the next step down is a good 4.

Name 10 teams that have good low post players that are good on both ends of the court - you'll find them deep in the playoffs - even those with some sketchy backcourts.

There's a reason why those guys are so valuable and smart GMs will NEVER let those go. Look how smart Dumars is, but he still drafted Darko for that potentially dominating two way post player over a guy (Melo) who just won the college championship almost by himself as a freshman! As good as he saw Melo to be (and he's trying to get him now from Denver), he took a HUGE chance on a big he felt was going to be great.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 12:52 PM

The idea that Grunfeld could sign Arenas to a deal under the pretense of keeping him, then turn around and trade him after his "leverage" is gone is flat out wrong.

Again.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 10:55 AM

Not a new concept for DC Man88.... being WRONG, that is.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 12:52 PM

yep!!!!!

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:54 PM

at least 88 tells it like it is and don't sugar coat anything

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:56 PM

Pardon the cut and paste reference from draftexpress below but candidate JJ Hickson has potential to fulfill some of the wiz needs mentioned by others, he is a banger inside, an intimidating low post player.
Posted by: myshkin | June 25, 2008 10:58 AM


Pardon MY cut and paste of JJ Hickson's Weaknesses, also from DraftExpress.... The last thing the Wizards need is ANOTHER poor defensive player.

Weaknesses:

• Undersized
• Offensive versatility
• Will post game translate?
• Ability to face the basket
• Shooting range
• Ball-handling skills
• Left hand
• Decision making
• Ability/Willingness to pass out of post
• Poor assist/turnover ratio
• Fundamentals/Feel for game
• Defensive awareness
• Defensive intensity
• Gets lost on rotations
• Lacks focus at times
• Played for underachieving team w/bad chemistry
• 2-3 years away from contributing

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 12:56 PM

Drafting specialists (like defenders and shooters) is what second round picks are for. In the first round, esp. in the top 20, getting the best/most talented player on the board is the almost always the best way to go.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 11:31 AM

On the other hand, given the choice between two players in the same "tier", the Wizards should be looking to draft the better defender.

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 1:00 PM

"On the other hand, given the choice between two players in the same "tier", the Wizards should be looking to draft the better defender."

Not really. They should be looking at the player with the potential to have the greatest impact.

Do the Wizards need to get better defensively? Sure. But given that this team is built around offense, one player isn't likely to have that big an impact, unless he's an all-world, team changing type of defender (a la Garnett), which they aren't going to get with the 18th pick. But, given that the team is built around offense, an offensive player whose skills fill a specific existing need could be more immediately impactful because he's not going to be asked to change the culture or carry the whole load.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:07 PM

DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE!!!!

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 1:07 PM

"The Wiz drafted Dixon because this franchise was at a tailspin after Abe abruptly gave MJ the royal boot. They needed some hometown blood to cool the anger in DC."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:23 PM


Except, of course, that MJ drafted Dixon while he was GM, even before he unretired to play for the Wizards. Good fact-checking.


Posted by: | June 25, 2008 12:48 PM



Facts? What are those?

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:10 PM

at least 88 tells it like it is and don't sugar coat anything

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 12:56 PM

No - he coats it with something else entirely!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:12 PM

Do the Wizards need to get better defensively? Sure. But given that this team is built around offense, one player isn't likely to have that big an impact, unless he's an all-world, team changing type of defender (a la Garnett), which they aren't going to get with the 18th pick. But, given that the team is built around offense, an offensive player whose skills fill a specific existing need could be more immediately impactful because he's not going to be asked to change the culture or carry the whole load.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:07 PM

That's plain wrong. On a team already full of scorers (Gil, Caron, Jamison, Young), and lacking in impact defenders, bringing in a defender will have a greater impact than another scorer. There is only one ball.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:15 PM

"Except, of course, that MJ drafted Dixon while he was GM, even before he unretired to play for the Wizards. Good fact-checking.

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 12:48 PM "

My bad...it was Steve Blake who was drafted to cheer up the DC fans after Abe booted MJ.

In any regard, everyone makes mistakes.....some even boldly say that memphis got exactly what they wanted out of the Gasol trade but it was later revealed by the owner that it wasn't the case.

Of course, I'm not the nitpicker like others here who thrive on jumping on people when they make a mistake, but have no original or good ideas of their own.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:17 PM

"No - he coats it with something else entirely!

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 1:12 PM "

Yeah, something you swallow on a regular basis.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:17 PM

This isn't rink CYO ball where you either start or you barely play. If Antwan is getting his minutes and finishing games then no one, including him, will care that he isn't on the floor during the tip.

That year in Dallas was the only one of his career, since his rookie year, in which he averaged less than 30 minutes a game. Its about minutes, not who gets to play first.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 1:18 PM

The quickest way the Wizards can get better on defense is to let Arenas and Jamison walk, fire Eddie Jordan and bring in a defensive minded coach like Tom Thibodeau. Either that or pray that McGuire turns into the stopper a lot quicker than we think he can.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:19 PM

"The Wiz drafted Dixon because this franchise was at a tailspin after Abe abruptly gave MJ the royal boot. They needed some hometown blood to cool the anger in DC."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 12:23 PM


Except, of course, that MJ drafted Dixon while he was GM, even before he unretired to play for the Wizards. Good fact-checking.


Posted by: | June 25, 2008 12:48 PM


Actually MJ unretired prior to the '01-02 season, so he played with the Wizards for the '01-'02 and '02-'03 seasons, so he did overlap with Jeffries & Dixon

Posted by: Triple Fact Checker | June 25, 2008 1:19 PM

"No - he coats it with something else entirely!

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 1:12 PM "

Yeah, something you swallow on a regular basis.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:17 PM


Sugar?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:22 PM

"That's plain wrong. On a team already full of scorers (Gil, Caron, Jamison, Young), and lacking in impact defenders, bringing in a defender will have a greater impact than another scorer. There is only one ball."

There only needs to be one ball, as long as everyone shares it. By your argument, there should be a cap on the number of players a team has who can score. Clearly there isn't.

The key phrase in your post is "impact defender." The Wiz aren't likely to get oone at #18. A single defender can make an impact, if there's a team defensive scheme that maximizes the individual defensive capabilities of the players. The Wizards team defensive scheme is way more than one player away from being great, esp. a player found at #18. A single mid/late first round pick is not going to single-handedly transform a poor defensive team into a topnotch defensive unit.

By way of comparison, Marcus Camby is one of the best defensive big men in the NBA yet the Nuggets still play some of the worst defense in the league.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:24 PM

Another consideration for the Wizards on which player/position to pick:

Etan Thomas' contract runs out after 2010. Meaning that during the 2009/2010 season, he becomes extremely valuable as an "expiring contract". Ernie Grunfeld has been trying to move Etan for the last two years... It's an almost foregone conclusion that EG will be able to move Etan Thomas through a trade in 2009/2010.

Assuming that Brendan Haywood continues to be the starting Center on the team, (and considering that he's only 28, it's only natural to assume that) - The Wizards will need to draft someone in the near term to fill the Backup Center role in the 2009/2010 season ( next season !!!)...

This year's draft is laden with good, young Center prospects; especially in the mid-late 1st round. (Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert, Alexis Ajinca, JaVale McGee, DeVon Hardin, etc...). The 2009 Draft is woefully short on good Centers; especially in the mid-late 1st round (where the Wizards will most likely pick)..

So the question is:

Do you try to draft a Center this year, to groom him to be Haywood's backup?

OR

Hope, somehow, you can trade Etan's expiring contract for another Center...
(forgetting that the Wizards may also have other needs that could be filled nicely with a Trade).

OR

Hope that by some miracle you can draft a Center in the 2009 draft that can contribute right away as a Rookie.

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 1:27 PM

"Sugar?

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 1:22 PM "

You would know if it's sweet or not...you at least got the color right.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:28 PM

BTW, before the mutt boy barks again.

Just to clarify, EG did not draft Blake. It was Unseld taking over temporarily after MJ was booted and Unseld/Abe drafted both Jarvis and Blake.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:30 PM

OR

Play Pecherov as Haywood's backup?

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 1:30 PM

I say go big now and hope it pays off, with so many players being so young in the draft it's a crap shoot at best. but if you go big, who will it be?

Posted by: big daddy | June 25, 2008 1:34 PM

Pecherov has a long way to go before even coming close to earning 3rd string C status, let alone backup.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:35 PM

"Pecherov has a long way to go before even coming close to earning 3rd string C status, let alone backup.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:35 PM"

Arf! Arf! Arf!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:41 PM

Pech can't be Haywood's backup and play in the D-League at the same time. He needs experience not more bench minutes goofing around.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 1:41 PM

would love to get Hibbert, but would not mind seeing the pick moved for something decent, really sounds like EG has been shoping the pick for awhile. We gotta do something with this etan deal we have to, he's a waste and he's got a rather large salary

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:48 PM

I like it better when D-She-male just disappears after someone makes him look bad.

Posted by: Monte | June 25, 2008 1:51 PM

As much as I love Gil, I believe it is time to part ways, he is injury prone and sometimes a distraction to the team. They performed better without him in the rotation and Nick Young had a very solid rookie season and he gained confidence as he also grew up. It is unfortunate the Wiz can't trade Gil now that he has opted out, but getting rid of him will open a chunk of spare change to sign a big man and a solid draft prospect. AD is getting a little old, so drafting Mario Chalmers to work with Nick Young and Roger Mason, Jr could prove to be a good fit in the next few years. LETS ALL HOPE DESHAWN SHUTS HIS MOUTH NEXT PLAYOFFS!!!

Posted by: Wizfan | June 25, 2008 1:53 PM

Oh I'm sure AJ would resist a move to the bench and I bet it's not in EJ's plans. I still think it would be best for the team but I don't see it happening. I also don't see EJ benching DS for NY.

Posted by: mark | June 25, 2008 1:54 PM

CB yes it bothers me. It drives me completely insane!!!! All these people think we can improve with the exact same team while the rest of the league just gets better and better. Its laughable....I hope EG isn't as dumb as all the people on this blog but from all the reports it seems like he is.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 1:55 PM

I voted for JJ because of he fits our greatest need and I love his potential and intangables. Though Hibert was a temptation, I was put off by his below expectation senior year (has he peaked? does he lack the desire?). Remember how long its taken us to get Haywood motivated and moving in the right direction? Thats draining on a team (a minus). I think he could compliment Blatche well and relieve Antawn well. I like his presence in our line up.

Posted by: JB | June 25, 2008 2:00 PM

Sorry to be the barer of bad news to everyone here but I spoke with a source with knowledge of the situation and Hibbert is telling friends that he has a guarantee in the top 15. He's not saying which team though.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 2:16 PM

I don't hear or see any of the so called "draft experts" saying where Joey Dorsey will go. I think he would be a steal with the 2nd rounder. He's got a presence in the paint with some ferocity like Jason Maxiel for the Pistons.

Posted by: G$ | June 25, 2008 2:18 PM

I guess B. Rush and CDR have boosted themselves out of our league now.....I'd take either over Hibbert any day of the week.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | June 25, 2008 9:33 AM

Unfortunately I think B Rush has ... but it seems likely according to most mocks and reports whatever they're worth)CDR will be there. If Rush is there it is a no-brainer. Andy Katz also threw it out on espn on monday night that Washington would consider trading up to select Rush. I'd be in favor of that. Otherwise I'd rank the possible Wiz picks as:
Chalmers
Douglass Roberts
Hickson
Arthur

Posted by: pepcoenerygy3 | June 25, 2008 2:23 PM

I agree that if the Wiz can't get a decent player capable of some immediate run (regardless of whether their skills are more suited on offense or defense) then they should consider trading out of the pick if the taker gives them something worth taking. Bottom line is, this will be an interesting draft. There is already talk that OJ Mayo might move up to 2 which means Beasley or Rose will fall to 3. I'm not sold that Beasley will be a better pro than Mayo or Rose if Beasley is playing in the East.

Posted by: G$ | June 25, 2008 2:25 PM

any "sleepers" the wiz can snag at 47?
i do think dorsey would be interesting (as others have said). Gist?

Russell Robinson is in none of the mocks (not a lot of offensive talent) but he can runa true point, plays excellent D and is just a tough player. I am biased because I am a big fan, but I'd be happy if we took him at 47 or even signed him if he does go undrafted. singletary is another PG i thnk could play in the NBA

Posted by: pepcoenergy3 | June 25, 2008 2:34 PM

Sorry to be the barer of bad news to everyone here but I spoke with a source with knowledge of the situation and Hibbert is telling friends that he has a guarantee in the top 15. He's not saying which team though.

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 2:16 PM

That would be Sac, if you are not posing.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 25, 2008 2:35 PM

That would be Sac, if you are not posing.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 25, 2008 2:35 PM

I have seen that online but the person I talked to couldn't confirm that.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 2:39 PM

I can make up promises to. why would anyone believe an ANON on a message board about a promise roy hibbert has in the draft.

Oh guys just in Joey Dorsey has a promise in the top 10 so don't get ut hopes up

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 2:45 PM

Because I know people that know Hibbert and wanted to give everyone the heads up since everyone here wants the Wiz to draft him. I know, considering he went to school down the street, its impossible for anyone to have any contact with him. If you don't want to believe then don't believe it. I found out since two people were arguing over how far he would fall and the person made a bet saying he would be top 15 before revealing that he had personally talked to Hibbert about it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 2:52 PM

"Pecherov has a long way to go before even coming close to earning 3rd string C status, let alone backup.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 1:35 PM"

Arf! Arf! Arf!

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 1:41 PM

So you really are A DOG ??!! damn...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 2:52 PM

so if we trade up to get Rush, that would signal the end of Roger Mason, Jr. Seems like right now, moreso than Etan, Daniels or Blatche, he's our best bargaining chip. Is there any way to sign him first and trade him if there is a deal out there?

Posted by: G$ | June 25, 2008 2:58 PM

The Wizards can't use Mason in a sign and trade, because they don't have his Bird rights, which means they can't exceed the cap to sign him. Because they're capped out, they can only sign him using the MLE, which would require them to go well over the luxury tax. If they signed him with the MLE they wouldn't be able to trade him until Dec. 15, by which time the trade market would have flattened out.

So ... no.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 3:02 PM

The Wizards lack of defense and size has been exposed the last three years in the playoffs...Etan Thomas, even when healthy, gives up height to most centers. With BTH on the bench, we either get killed in the paint or give up 3's at a record rate. Blatche and Pecherov will never be low post defenders or scorers.

Hibbard may not be the answer due to lack of quickness and agility, but the other options (Hickson, Arthur, and Greene) at No. 18 are even worse. If the Wiz can't draft a bigman who can help, they should try to package the pick and a player. We don't need another Pecherov or Blatche as a 3-year experiment if we want to get better.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 25, 2008 3:11 PM

Pardon MY cut and paste of JJ Hickson's Weaknesses, also from DraftExpress.... The last thing the Wizards need is ANOTHER poor defensive player. - Rook

Rook, you neglected to consider the rest of my post in recommending Hickson; the obvious point that the talent at the 18 pick is doubtful and that whoever they choose, short of a miracle, will likely have very little to contribute next year, (particularly as EJ tends to have trouble finding playing time for young players, one possible reason for the slow development of DMac, Pech, Blatche, Young) and will have weaknesses as a player.

That said Hickson more than the others including Hibbert (my second choice), could in the future answer Zard needs particularly for a low post player where they always seem to be wanting.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 25, 2008 3:12 PM

My post above regarding Hickson

Posted by: myshkin | June 25, 2008 3:13 PM

Understood myshkin ... but what the Wizards lack in the Low Post is a big body that can Defend and rebound down low.

Hickson can certainly fill a role on some team; but he looks undersized at 6'9" to play PF. Jamison and Songaila are both 6'9" - and continually have to battle bigger PF's in the paint for rebounds.

The last thing the Wizards need is another PF (Jamison, Blatche, Songaila, Pecherov) - but if they were to obtain one, he should at least be a very large body ... someone that can bang with the big guys.

Heck, Kevin Love is probably the best PF in this year's draft - and everyone is calling him undersized at 6'9"

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 3:34 PM

Sorry to be the barer of bad news to everyone here but I spoke with a source with knowledge of the situation and Hibbert is telling friends that he has a guarantee in the top 15. He's not saying which team though.

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 2:16 PM

I wouldn't take this as gospel because teams often tell prospects that "If you're there when our pick comes up, we'll take you," and then, for one reason or another, they don't. The only "guarantee" at this time of year is that teams lie about what they're going to do in the draft.

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 25, 2008 3:49 PM

Hickson can certainly fill a role on some team; but he looks undersized at 6'9" to play PF. Jamison and Songaila are both 6'9" - and continually have to battle bigger PF's in the paint for rebounds. - Rook

Hickson has very good rebounding numbers and wide body with big arm span, he plays bigger than 6'8", he's also 19 and may grow another inch, and any serious approach to the weight room would be more effective on a body frame like Hickson than on Arthur for instance. All that said, Hickson and anyone at 18 is a gamble particularly on a team that doesn't have a great track record of developing young players with parts of their game missing.

Posted by: Myshkin | June 25, 2008 3:56 PM

"Heck, Kevin Love is probably the best PF in this year's draft - and everyone is calling him undersized at 6'9"

Probably because he's closer to 6' 7".

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 4:00 PM

Sorry to be the barer of bad news to everyone here but I spoke with a source with knowledge of the situation and Hibbert is telling friends that he has a guarantee in the top 15. He's not saying which team though.

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 2:16 PM

Befor everyone attacks ANON for this post, Superagent David Faulk (Hibbert's Agent) said that Hibbert will not be around at 18, during a radio interview w/JT2 this afternoon.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 25, 2008 4:14 PM

The interesting thing is that Hibbert turned down a request by the Wiz to work out. He thinks he'll go high despite the NBA not inviting him to be in the green room.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 4:15 PM

"So you really are A DOG ??!! damn...

Posted by: | June 25, 2008 2:52 PM "

No, that be your momma. Smells like one too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 4:16 PM

Hickson has very good rebounding numbers and wide body with big arm span, he plays bigger than 6'8", he's also 19 and may grow another inch, and any serious approach to the weight room would be more effective on a body frame like Hickson than on Arthur for instance. All that said, Hickson and anyone at 18 is a gamble particularly on a team that doesn't have a great track record of developing young players with parts of their game missing.

Posted by: Myshkin | June 25, 2008 3:56 PM

But you still haven't convinced me why the Wizards need ANOTHER Power Forward...

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 4:22 PM

Hickson has very good rebounding numbers and wide body with big arm span, he plays bigger than 6'8", he's also 19 and may grow another inch, and any serious approach to the weight room would be more effective on a body frame like Hickson than on Arthur for instance. All that said, Hickson and anyone at 18 is a gamble particularly on a team that doesn't have a great track record of developing young players with parts of their game missing.

Posted by: Myshkin | June 25, 2008 3:56 PM

But you still haven't convinced me why the Wizards need ANOTHER Power Forward...

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 4:22 PM

Hickson can certainly fill a role on some team; but he looks undersized at 6'9" to play PF. Jamison and Songaila are both 6'9" - and continually have to battle bigger PF's in the paint for rebounds.

The last thing the Wizards need is another PF (Jamison, Blatche, Songaila, Pecherov) - but if they were to obtain one, he should at least be a very large body ... someone that can bang with the big guys.

Heck, Kevin Love is probably the best PF in this year's draft - and everyone is calling him undersized at 6'9"

Posted by: Rook | June 25, 2008 3:34 PM

Personally, I think 18 is bit too high for Hickson (can look unmotivated and struggles defensively). But I don't see how people sing the praises of Elton Brand and yet think that JJ is undersized. EB is under 6'9" too, its just that he has broad shoulders and his arms are so long he can scratch his knees without bending over, just like Hickson. Exact height measurements are a deal breaker in the top 5 not near 20.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 25, 2008 4:30 PM

This is interesting. Wizards should probably do these things with this pick

Draft Roy Hibbert who, to me, can address some rebounding and defensive paint issues that the Wizards have been sorely lacking

or

Draft Mario Chalmers as someone who can come off the bench and run the offense and/or make plays for other players

or

Trade the pick for a veteran who can play good defense, especially as a defensive rebounder, something the Wiz sorely lack during the postseason as of these last few seasons.

Posted by: Britt | June 25, 2008 4:52 PM

"Personally, I think 18 is bit too high for Hickson (can look unmotivated and struggles defensively). But I don't see how people sing the praises of Elton Brand and yet think that JJ is undersized."

It's not just about the height. As you said, Brand had other assets coming out of college that made up for it. one was his overall length, as you touched upon. The other thing (and this is wat distinguished him from Hickson based on what you just said) was his attitude, focus, and motor.

Unlike Hickson Brand didn't/doesn't (in your words) "struggle defensively" and and never looks "unmotivated." Height can be a deal breaker, even lower in the draft, if the player in question lacks to other, harder to quantify, elements that would help overcome the height deficit.

Posted by: kalorama | June 25, 2008 5:01 PM

But you still haven't convinced me why the Wizards need ANOTHER Power Forward... Rook

The Wiz need a power forward who is not a finesse player, a banger, it often seemed they were getting out muscled in the paint. Their other forwards don't fit the banger description except maybe DMac.

At 18 they are not getting any immediate help, though the same could applies at point guard, another place they need help. I think Hickson has more promise to develop into a contributing NBA power forward than Chalmers at point guard.

I'd also take Hibbert before Chalmers as well because of that need for muscle.

Needless to say it's all conjecture.

Posted by: Myshkin | June 25, 2008 6:41 PM

I doubt if Chicago drafts Beasley, but if they do, the Wiz should give up their 18th pick and trade AB & DSong for Tyrus Thomas and Duhon.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 25, 2008 8:00 PM

A few thoughts:

1. "...give up their 18th pick and trade AB & DSong for Tyrus Thomas and Duhon." Damn, that's a decent idea, worth considering...

2. "...Draft Roy Hibbert who, to me, can address some rebounding and defensive paint issues that the Wizards have been sorely lacking

or

Draft Mario Chalmers as someone who can come off the bench and run the offense and/or make plays for other players

or

Trade the pick for a veteran who can play good defense, especially as a defensive rebounder, something the Wiz sorely lack during the postseason as of these last few seasons. AGREE W/THIS WHOLE POST. Has EG considered trying to trade for Chris Wilcox?

3. That Antawn Jamison, a PF, has shouldered so much of the scoring load for us this long is amazing to me. Realizing that AJ will be gone in the next few years, the type of contribution we get from the 4 will change from AJ's "face up" game to much more banging in the post. Nick Young at SG will account for Jamison's scoring punch, eventually, that I'm confident of.

That said, I say that the Wiz should NOT draft Darrell Arthur. We need to clear out our logjam of bigs w/limitations. Instead, a) D-League Pech, b) trade Songaila, and MAKE THIS SEASON A MAKE-OR-BREAK YEAR FOR BLATCHE. Give him as many minutes as he can handle. Pair him w/McGuire when Haywood is on the bench, to give us more agility/athleticism, and more developmental time for McGuire. Or, pair him w/Etan on occasion.

4. Mark my words: IT WILL BE A SERIOUS MISTAKE to let McGuire go ANYWHERE. He needs playing time, so if Blatche ain't gonna make good use of the extra minutes, believe me, he will.

5. I really hate for us to lose Mason, but it seems like it's almost a given. This dude is a true professional and a TROOPER.

6. Comparing Hibbert to Haywood: I'll take Hibbert's rebounding, passing and DEFENSE over Haywood's shotblocking, ANYDAY. Eventually, Hibbert should be able to pick up 8-10 boards/game, regardless of which team he ends up with.

7. He may not go to the Wiz at #47, but I'm really pulling for Joey Dorsey to prove folk wrong, prove he can play decently in the NBA.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 26, 2008 2:34 AM

Just like the wizards with a pick that gets you nobody. They have to many young guys already. Wizards should have sent there pick last year and the bench to Minnesota for Garnett. Spilled milk. Maybe they can parlay the pick and some benchwarmers for a proven PRO. Oh Hibbert we already have one stick man. One per team!

Posted by: solblack | June 26, 2008 7:42 AM

There are alot of comments that say Hibbert would be a backup..or 3rd center.
In case people haven`t noticed..both our centers are journeymen. Haywood had his best year...but that still does not put him into that next level. T5he Wiz need a big man WHO CAN BOTH SCORE AND REBOUND.
Often Jamison outrebounded Haywood.

Posted by: peter | June 26, 2008 7:51 AM

There are alot of comments that say Hibbert would be a backup..or 3rd center.
In case people haven`t noticed..both our centers are journeymen. Haywood had his best year...but that still does not put him into that next level. T5he Wiz need a big man WHO CAN BOTH SCORE AND REBOUND.
Often Jamison outrebounded Haywood.

Posted by: peter | June 26, 2008 7:51 AM

Jason Thompson at 18, Gist from UMD with the second rounder.

But I really think they should trade the pick and some bodies for a proven vet.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | June 26, 2008 9:04 AM

I say cut Jordan, and hire a coach who actually stresses defense and develops younger players.

I would take Hibbert over Haywood in a heartbeat. It also might motivate Haywood into playing better (ok....I'm dreaming....)

Hickson is not a bad pick, and can be taught to play defense with the right coach.

No foreign players, please....

Just not big on Darrell Arthur......some of the recent mock drafts show Randolph from LSU dropping near our pick. He would be a steal at #18.

Posted by: Fish | June 26, 2008 9:38 AM

Let's face it. The Wizards haven't picked the right players in the draft for a long time (with the exception of the guys who haven't been around long enough to get a bead on) and that's why they are in the position they are in now. They can re-sign GA and AJ, draft a player who won't develope, and be eliminated in the first or second round of the playoffs again.
There is no way they will pull this off, but the Wizards should try and do a sign-and-trade with the Bulls, sending GA, the 18, their first rounder next year and Blatche for the #1, Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden. If Gooden had another year on his deal the Wiz might have been able to pull something off, but Chicago will probably just want to keep him and his expiring contract. Whatever the Wiz do, they shouldn't sign Arenas to a max deal and keep him. It will hurt to see him go, but it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Will | June 26, 2008 10:32 AM

People mentioning Beasly - STOP, Miami is not going to deal with us, just like we probably wouldn't deal with them in the same situation.
People mentioning a SG - STOP, Nick Young is supposed to be able to provide the scoring spark off the bench here, and Stevenson is a fine starter b/c he is the best defender in our starting lineup. SG and SF are set since I think McGuire can be solid back-up to Butler this year (plus Songaila I think can also help out at the 3, correct me if I'm wrong).
People mentioning AJ off the bench - STOP, he's an all-star and a solid starter at PF, what we need is a solid defender/rebounder to back him up. Wilbon mentioned someone from Golden State, who we could potentially get with Baron Davis if we ship off Arenas and maybe Blatche.
Most likely, we will have AJ and GA back next year, so draft to get that low post defender, whether that player be in this draft or someone who can be traded. We may have a lot of faces at the 4 and 5 but only AJ, Haywood, and DS really satsify me. Oh yeah, people trying to trade Etan - STOP, I'm pretty sure his contract makes him too difficult to move. He's a good backup Center anyway, it's just that I don't see him in the future with his enemy Haywood as our starter.
Point is, Chalmers or CDR (or Rush but only chance is to trade up) would be great as it would solidify our wings, adding even more D. But we really need help in the middle, and here Ernie is going to have to use foresight and if he determines that he cannot get post help in free agency or through a trade, he will HAVE to use the No. 18 to draft in this area. If so, best defender, as long as Young can spark the bench our starters give us more than enough points to win without a solid post scorer.

Posted by: mcgratsp | June 26, 2008 10:52 AM

thanks for the earlier clarification Kalorama. From everything I've seen of D. Arthur, he has nice offensive skills from about 15 feet in and can get his shot off in a plethora of ways. He shoots a good percentage and can finish with both hands around the basket. I saw him score and rebound against players the same size or bigger and he seemed to have nice "hops." Didn't see much on the defensive side. As for the Wiz and what they need, if he is the best player available when they pick at 18, then we should take him. Against Cleveland, our lack of size wasn't the only factor that allowed Joe Smith, Varejao & Ilgauskas to kill us on the boards, it was the fact that after Heywood, guys like Blatche, Songaila and even Jamison were not physical enough and/or quick enough leapers to secure a rebound. If you look at the great rebounders that have played in the league, not all were 7 footers, many are undersized but knew how to position their bodies, box out and out-work their opponent to the ball. While on the subject, Udonis Haslem would be another player they Wiz should consider if he dangled on the trade block.

Posted by: G$ | June 26, 2008 11:05 AM

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