Free agency gets rolling

Wow, did the Elton Brand deal with Philly spark some drama. First, we hear that Brand and Baron Davis actually had some kind of arrangement worked out with the Clippers they opted out of their deals. Now, there is chatter that Philly was going after Brand before free agency officially began.

Also, there are those who believe that Brand's agent, David Faulk, was out ot do the Clippers wrong all along.

None of this is shocking.

The Wizards know all about how this game works. For instance, I've spoken with a higher up in the Wiz organization who is very curious about how the Golden State Warriors made an offer to Gilbert Arenas (five years, just under $100 million) when Arenas was with the Wiz brass from 12:01 a.m. on the night free agency officially opened and didn't answer his phone the entire time he met with Ernie Grunfeld and company.

Also, how was it that word got to Antawn Jamison and his agent, Arn Tellem, that the 76ers were ready and willing to make a big run at Jamison before free agency even began?

Answer: the stuff happens all of the time. The only way to get caught, I guess, is to put it on paper as Kevin McHale did a few years back when he signed Joe Smith (Joe Smith !!!) to an under-the-table deal with the Wolves. That cost Minny three first round draft picks.

As for the Wizards and their free agency situation, there isn't a whole lot popping. As I wrote in today's paper, Gilbert Arenas won't officially sign his contract until he gets back from a long trip to Asia and Europe next week. Jamison is a done deal. Roger Mason Jr. will likely sign elsewhere given Washington's glut of guards and his desire for more playing time. (Keep an eye on the Sixers who could use a shooter to go along with Elton Brand now.)

As for players the Wiz may look at, keep an eye on the small forwards in the market. As I've reported here in recent days, the Wizards are looking to add a veteran-type to backup Caron Butler, who has carried heavy minutes and battled a string of nagging injuries the last three seasons. One logical candidate is Matt Barnes, who has been with the Golden State Warriors the last two seasons. Barnes is a good defender and a very versatile offensive player.

Barnes also has an interesting connection to Arenas: word is that Matt's soon-to-be wife is a sister of Gilbert's girlfriend.

Anyway, look for the Wizards to allow the market to settle a little bit and make whatever move they make when the price is right. By my estimation, they should have around $3 million or so to spend underneath the $71.15 million luxury tax threshold.

By Ivan Carter |  July 9, 2008; 10:14 AM ET
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Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:45 AM

As other teams like Philly keep getting better, the Wizards go backwards in comparison. Two years from now we will all be wishing that we'd blown up the team right now. One and done in the playoffs is our BEST case scenario now.

Posted by: TK | July 9, 2008 10:47 AM

sign matt barnes. i'm not going to give reason why or make it sound like i'm some basketball genius, but i have intuition. my intuition says to sign matt barnes.

giterdun.

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 11:03 AM

how are the wizards going backwards? to me it appears they're striving for continuity, which isn't a bad thing IMO. the wizards are almost a top 3 team in the east. i think if they make a serious commitment to defense, and once gilbert returns, play TEAM basketball, they have a legit chance to contend for the eastern conference champs.

since the french dude from the warriors plans on signing with the magic, i'm reiterating to sign matt barnes.

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 11:08 AM

I love the idea to add Barnes. Barnes would give us another solid player off the bench. Imagine our second unit consisting of AD at point, Young at 2, Barnes at 3, Songalia and Blatche at 4/5. Then we can roll out Etan, McGuire and Pesh. WOW

This is by far the most talented team we have had in my lifetime. I dont see where all the haters get off at.

Posted by: DMoney | July 9, 2008 11:09 AM

get rid of roger murtaugh.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:09 AM

i think if it comes down to roger mason jr. and matt barnes, the choice is obvious:

sign matt barnes.
let roger mason jr. walk.
sign jonathan wallace

i'm not sure if they can or would because of the luxary tax, but could they sign and trade roger mason?

is aaron miles still playing overseas, do we have any right to him?

Posted by: ?mAn | July 9, 2008 11:17 AM

I am with you DMoney... You are obviously too young to remember the late 70s Wizards, but from my persepctive this 2008-09 team may be as close as we have come to that exalted ground...

Posted by: khrabb | July 9, 2008 11:20 AM

Second the post from khrabb...you must have forgotten the ONE playoff birth in 18 years prior to Agent Zero and Jamison joining the Wiz. The core is in place with the Big Three, our backup Center should be back, and we have a nice core of young talent who should be ready in 3 years so there isn't a major rebuild job.

BARNES IS GOING TO SIGN WITH THE WIZARDS. AGENT ZERO PROBABLY FACTORED IN HOW MUCH TO LEAVE ON THE TABLE FOR HIM AS PART OF THE DEAL BASED ON THE RELATIONSHIP OF THEIR RESPECTIVE SO'S.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 9, 2008 11:26 AM

I'm Falk. As in Michael Jordan's former agent.

The former RB from Colts/Rams fame is Faulk.

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: The Bird of Prey | July 9, 2008 11:32 AM

I like Barnes. One thing you can't take away from him is his heart and passion for the game. That guy gives 110%.

C. Etan Thomas
PF. Blatche
SF. Barnes
SG. Young
PG. AD

A nice combination of vets and prospects. JaVale will take some time and McGuire is a work in progress. Songaila can go, he plays NO defense.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 9, 2008 11:35 AM

The Wiz should forget barnes and sign Josh Childress from Atlanta. We should try and do a sign a trade and give Pech/Daniels for Childress and then sign Mason for PG backup. That's my take!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:37 AM

The verdict is still out on Pech

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 9, 2008 11:38 AM

What happen to the Wizards going after James Posey????? Barnes is OK, but he is not best the Warriors on the market. Mickael Pietrus is a better defener and bigger. The Wizands need to decide whether they want to stay under the luxary tax or win? Teams in the east are getting the pieces they need to win and wizards are trying to stay under the luxary tax. uurgg!!!!!

Posted by: Dthefan | July 9, 2008 11:39 AM

AD can run a team better than Mason plus that backup core already has a jacker in Young. The core needs a distributor.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 9, 2008 11:40 AM

lolz@ someone wanting stewie.

Posted by: kwamesnani | July 9, 2008 11:45 AM

"could they sign and trade roger mason?"

Nope, they still can't.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 11:54 AM

i like Posey but not at an astronomical price. thought we should have tried to sign him last year but he wanted for the big 3 in boston to form, then he signed there. haven't seen enough of barnes but from everything i read/hear, he's versatile and would be an asset. childress is another interesting player but i doubt we could pull off a trade. he reminds me of jared jeffries with more O

Posted by: G$ | July 9, 2008 11:55 AM

Re. the scuttlebutt on Falk and Brand signing with Philadelphia, I think that it is all wrong when negotiations become a matter of an agent's ego vs. a player's desire to join a winning team. After Falk collects his commission he could care less if Brand wins a ring or not.

As to how the heck was the GSW offer to Gilbert communicated - maybe it was communicated through his manager who was free to answer her phone?

Posted by: rgz | July 9, 2008 12:03 PM

Posey on a 2-3 year deal for the LLE would be OK. But a multiyear deal for the full MLE (which is likely what it would take) is too steep. They're already overpaying marginal-impact role players in Songaila and Stevenson. Adding another to the list is throwing bad money after good.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:04 PM

Lot's of holes for the Wizards to fill in. I think the only thing that is set for them is the 2 guard. Posey, Barnes, Peitrus...each of them can help the team. If the salaries match up then the team needs to look closely and figure out how they can sign one of them.

Posted by: Dave, | July 9, 2008 12:05 PM

Sportwriters here are sheep. Hold the Wiz management and ownership accountable for providing more of the same mediocrity. We could have made a run at Brand with Arenas money. Instead we got more of the same smelly stuff and are stuck with Zero for 6 long years. I am fed up with this ownership and management.

Posted by: basehitt | July 9, 2008 12:05 PM

I don't really see how it's a money vs. winning issue, rgz, because his odds of winning a ring with the Clippers weren't esp. high. If anything, the weaker competition in the East probably gives Brand a better shot at making it to the Finals than he would have had in L.A.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:07 PM

I'm not sure how they are going to sign anyone worthy with only 3 mil in cap room. Even R. Mason is going to ask for more than that. Posey is definitely out of the question. They'll have to go out there and get some guy no one else wants.

IMO, zards just went from 5th in the East to 7th or 8th. Philly just jumped them, Orlando got a whole lot better, Atlanta is better, and Miami could be back in the mix.

They gotta get better or it'll be the same story, different season.

Posted by: disremembered | July 9, 2008 12:07 PM

That article on David Falk is awesome. I agree with rgz that Falk is all about his ego, rather than his player's welfare. Juwan Howard could have been a beloved figure in this town, but Falk's ego and greed turned Howard into a villian without parellel in DC. Now, he's done the same to Brand in L.A., where Brand hopes to work as a movie producer.
As a lawyer, I can tell you that you need to always have your client's best interests at heart. Falk apparently skipped that class in law school.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:09 PM

Wow Matt Barnes

That makes us contenders

Good Thing Gil saved money for the team barnes really puts us over the top.

Matt barnes is a bum...he has played for like 8 different teams in 5 years and been cut from half of them. He is very inconsistent, an ok shooter, and a below average Defender who gets no rebounds. Why everyone here keeps acting like he is some great defender is beyond me. He is better than D-mac but he isn't going to do much to help this team.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:10 PM

rgz-I know I was just saying he sucks. Im just saying we should get rid of him. You and kal need to quit taking everything so literally and quit trying to correct everyone and just take the comment for what it is.

The people who constantly want to correct everyone on here are beyond annoying.

Posted by: | July 9, 2008 10:19 AM

rgz is right. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... But cutting a 1st round draft pick after one year, and an injury plagued year at that, would simply be moronic - in my opinion.

NBA players don't usually show their true talent until their 3rd or 4th year... and big men sometimes take longer - in my opinion.

Obviously, the General Manager of a Professional Basketball Team thought Pecherov was worth a mid-First round pick. That GM is paid a huge salary to evaluate talent. That GM has a good track record for evaluating talent - in my opinion.

Perhaps we could at least wait until that player has actually had a chance to show what he can do - before we just "release" him and bring in the next unproven player - in my opinion.

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 12:12 PM

I hope we sign Barnes, he'd be a perfect addition to blend with what we already have and he fills a need for us.

Posted by: Darnell | July 9, 2008 12:12 PM

Another wasted year/offseason. This team is going to struggle to make the playoffs in the east. All I can say is Goodbye Ernie and Goodbye Eddie. I personally am looking forward to rebuilding b/c besides Caron this team is a joke!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:13 PM

Rook- IN MY OPINION......ur opinion is worthless and moronic. Thanks though

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:15 PM

If anything, the weaker competition in the East probably gives Brand a better shot at making it to the Finals than he would have had in L.A.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:07 PM

Still don't get this argument. The East had the eventual NBA champions taken to 7 games by the #8 seed and the #4 seed. It may be more difficult to reach the playoffs in the west, but reaching the NBA Finals is a different story. There's plenty of competition in the east.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 12:18 PM

"There's plenty of competition in the east.

Didn't say there wasn't competition in the East. Said the competition in the East was weaker. And it is. Two different things.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:19 PM

Wow Matt Barnes

That makes us contenders

Good Thing Gil saved money for the team barnes really puts us over the top.

Matt barnes is a bum...he has played for like 8 different teams in 5 years and been cut from half of them. He is very inconsistent, an ok shooter, and a below average Defender who gets no rebounds. Why everyone here keeps acting like he is some great defender is beyond me. He is better than D-mac but he isn't going to do much to help this team.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:19 PM

I'm not sure how they are going to sign anyone worthy with only 3 mil in cap room. Even R. Mason is going to ask for more than that. Posey is definitely out of the question. They'll have to go out there and get some guy no one else wants.

IMO, zards just went from 5th in the East to 7th or 8th. Philly just jumped them, Orlando got a whole lot better, Atlanta is better, and Miami could be back in the mix.

They gotta get better or it'll be the same story, different season.

Posted by: disremembered | July 9, 2008 12:07 PM
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The Times is reporting that Mason's asking price will be around $2M, but with our 4 guards, I don't see why he would want to come back here and sit on the pine. We can have Young step in and fill the role of backcourt scorer off the bench, it's not quite a sink or swim role, since Daniels & Stevenson will be there as the bufferto carry the minutes at the 2, but if Young succeeds, he can easily take mins away from Stevenson...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/outlet/2008/Jul/08/mason-still-waiting/

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 12:22 PM

"The East had the eventual NBA champions taken to 7 games by the #8 seed and the #4 seed."

Which only underscores my point. One of the main reasons the Celtics were able to get to the Finals is because they had homecourt advantage in those game 7s. And the reason they had homecourt is because they piled up the best regular season record by playing most of their games against weaker East competition. Do you really think they'd have won 66 games and gotten a #1 seed if they'd been in the West? And without that, they might not have even gotten out of the first round. The fact that they played in the East unquestionably contributed to them having the seeding and positioning that helped them make it to the Finals.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:31 PM

LOL, I love how many people posting here keep harping back to the 90s. As if that's some kind of bar. You're never going to be a top contender if your comparison point is a team that was bottom 5 for all of the 90s.

Posted by: TK | July 9, 2008 12:31 PM

Didn't say there wasn't competition in the East. Said the competition in the East was weaker. And it is. Two different things.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 12:19 PM

Still disagree with this assessment. 3 different teams from the East winning the NBA finals in the last 5 years coupled with the reasons in my earlier post tells me that the East is just as competitive as the West, if not more so.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 12:38 PM

"Do you really think they'd have won 66 games and gotten a #1 seed if they'd been in the West?"

Maybe they wouldn't have totaled 66 wins, but there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have had the #1 seed out west. They were, what, 23-4 against the west (or something close to that)? They didn't have a problem playing that competition during the regular season, and certainly didn't have that problem in the finals.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 12:46 PM

There is no way the wiz are good. Philly just got awesome. Wiz still have no post up player. They offered more money to gilbert than brand. I would have let gilbert go and offered that money to brand

Posted by: smartfan | July 9, 2008 12:46 PM

I don't understand why having a 5th guard is so unnecessary. If one of the 4 guards gets hurt, that leaves you with 3 guards. I guess Caron can always slide over to play some 2 in that situation, but it's still a little dangerous.

Ideally, Pech and McGee go to the D League, and the Wizards either sign someone who can play both the 2 and 3 (Quinton Ross, please), or sign both a 3 and a back-up 1.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:53 PM

WOW, i can't believe what i'm reading. I guess everyone has forgotten that we were the clippers 5 years ago...

Matt Barnes does a little of everything and he can play several positions, plus he's a good 3 pt shooter.

As for letting Gilbert go, that makes sense get nothing at all for the guy that made our franchise relevant again. don't get me wrong i wish there were another way to get some value for him without paying him $20 Million but giving a soon to be 29 year old PF who is 6'6 18 million a year isn't a great idea either... Just ask the knicks about Antonio Mcdyess and he was actually athletic and 6'10...

Posted by: Ernie Grunfeld's mustache | July 9, 2008 1:07 PM

I think Barnes is a perfect choice

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2008 1:09 PM

Also Quniton Ross? Yeah we need a 6'2 combo guard. We don't already have gil, deshawn, and AD, while trying to give minutes to Nick Young. Sign mason at least he can shoot.

Posted by: Ernie Grunfeld's mustache | July 9, 2008 1:10 PM

"Still disagree with this assessment. 3 different teams from the East winning the NBA finals in the last 5 years coupled with the reasons in my earlier post tells me that the East is just as competitive as the West, if not more so."

Pointing out the number of East teams that have won titles recently does absolutely nothing to refute my initial point, since I said that Brand joining the Sixers actually "increases his chance of making it to the Finals.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:12 PM

"Maybe they wouldn't have totaled 66 wins, but there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have had the #1 seed out west. They were, what, 23-4 against the west (or something close to that)? They didn't have a problem playing that competition during the regular season, and certainly didn't have that problem in the finals."

East teams play West teams no more than twice per season. Most of the Celtics' games were against East teams who finished below .500. If the Celtics had been in the West, they'd have to play every other West team 3-5 times, in a conference where the competition was so stiff that a team that won 48 games ended up in the lottery.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:17 PM

"By my estimation, they should have around $3 million or so to spend underneath the $71.15 million luxury tax threshold.

Wow, Gilbert is such a great guy to allow the Wiz to be $3 mil under the luxury tax.

I can hardly control myself.

"There is no way the wiz are good. Philly just got awesome. Wiz still have no post up player. They offered more money to gilbert than brand. I would have let gilbert go and offered that money to brand"

Exactly.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | July 9, 2008 1:29 PM

Pointing out the number of East teams that have won titles recently does absolutely nothing to refute my initial point, since I said that Brand joining the Sixers actually "increases his chance of making it to the Finals.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:12 PM

Except to show that the overall competition in the East is better. To get through the East you're going through 3 title-winning teams in the last 5 years. To get through the West you're going through 1 title-winning team in the last 6 years (albeit a team that's won it 3 times). In the end the titles are the same, but if you happen to get unlucky, you'd have to win 12 games vs. title-winning teams in the East rather than just 4 in the west (and I know about Miami, but it's the principle of the argument).

If you meant that Brand has a better chance of winning in the East because the 76ers are better than the Clippers, that's one thing. But if you meant that Brand has a better chance of winning in the East because the East is weaker, that's just plain wrong, in my opinion.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 1:32 PM

It worst to be a Clippers supporter today.
Of course some of the comments posted here shows the Wiz have few good supporters either.

Give it a break: EG knows what he is doing.
U don't.

Posted by: Victor | July 9, 2008 1:34 PM

You know better than that, Ray. The Wizards would have had to renounce Jamison and Arenas to sign Brand outright. Why would Brand (a David Falk client) sign with the Wizards? Why would Brand agree to a sign and trade to the Wizards? Why would Gilbert agree to go to the Clippers?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 1:34 PM

East teams play West teams no more than twice per season. Most of the Celtics' games were against East teams who finished below .500. If the Celtics had been in the West, they'd have to play every other West team 3-5 times, in a conference where the competition was so stiff that a team that won 48 games ended up in the lottery.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:17 PM

Considering the winning percentage of the Celtics against the west, the fact that they would play them 3-5 times per season rather than twice would actually provide reason to believe their win total would've rose from 66, not fall.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 1:36 PM

Posted by: Haterade84 | July 9, 2008 1:38 PM

Someone needs to point out exactly what Elton Brand has accomplished. He's been to the playoffs once in a ten-year career. He certainly makes Philly, better than they were, but next year's Philly squad won't be as good as the best team Brand ever played on, the 05-06 Clippers.

At this point, its just too early to try and game plan where any team in the east is going to be, except for Boston. If Gil gets back to his pre-injury form and they get 70= games from all of the Big 3, this is a 50 win team and probably a top 3 seed. If injuries continue to be a major problem for this team, who knows? As for the Sixers, last year they were so successful because they got career seasons from both their starting C (Dalembert) and starting PG (Miller). If that doesn't happen again, or if Brand can't come all the way back from his knee injury, what's next season look like for them? Everybody in this conference has question marks, even the Pistons who seemed destined to trade one of their core guys. There's just no way to intelligently speculate about who's going to be where when the playoffs start next April. So everyone just needs to chill.

Posted by: Aaron (DC) | July 9, 2008 1:39 PM

"Matt Barnes does a little of everything and he can play several positions, plus he's a good 3 pt shooter." - mustache

barnes has shot over 30% from beyond the arc only once in his career. and exceeded 25% only twice. that makes him a not-so-good 3-point shooter.

he is a solid and active defender, so if he's able to focus squarely on that, he could help us out. but i wouldn't sign him for more than a 1 or 2 year contract.

Posted by: JC | July 9, 2008 1:40 PM

Philly just won the NBA title WHAAATT? thats what you would think in reading some of these post,Elton Brand is a 20/10 guy comming off a serious injury that can happen again in a flash. Lets play the season out and see what happens the bullets are still a threat to go all the way yeah thats right all the way. Matt Barnes would not be a bad choice he can do a little bit of everything sign him if the price is right. One more thing change the name back to the bullets.

Posted by: dargregmag@aol.com | July 9, 2008 1:40 PM

any chance at getting tony allen as rm jr. replacement/backup 3?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 1:41 PM

The Zards' a top three team? What a joke!
1 BOS
2 PHI
3 DET
4 ORL
5 TOR
6 MIA
7 CLE
8 ATL / WASH

Posted by: L!pty | July 9, 2008 1:44 PM

Free agency and the draft feel like a big deal because they are right in our face. The ONLY way for the WIZ to make a real jump is for Blatche to buy in, get in the weight room and blossom and Nick Young take a big leap. If that happens and the Wiz stay healthy they can beat anybody in the East. A lot of ifs, though, and not all that likely.

Posted by: Get a grip | July 9, 2008 1:49 PM

Nevermind backroom shenanigans by other teams, what about Mitch Lawrence's report that Gilby already had an under the table deal with Gilby?

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 1:49 PM

Nevermind backroom shenanigans by other teams, what about Mitch Lawrence's report that Gilby already had an under the table deal with Gilby?

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 1:49 PM

Which team had an under the table deal?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 1:51 PM

"Considering the winning percentage of the Celtics against the west, the fact that they would play them 3-5 times per season rather than twice would actually provide reason to believe their win total would've rose from 66, not fall."

Only if you see everything in terms of stats and fail to take into account real world issues of competition.

The more times teams play each other, the more familiar they become with one another and the more chances the coaches have to game plan against them. Also, playing more games against tougher competition takes more out of a team down the line. Playing 3-5 games a season against the likes of the Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Hornets, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Blazers, and Lakers would have drained Bostons tank a lot more over the course of a season than games against New York, New Jersey, Philly, Indy, Milwaukee, Miami, Charlotte, and Chicago.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:54 PM

Any word on Etan's ability to play aggressively next year for 15-20 minutes a game?

Any way we can get a daily update on Blatche's weight chart?

Any way we can get Kalorama's shooting percentage in practice prior to the summer league starting?

Posted by: Izman | July 9, 2008 1:54 PM

"Nevermind backroom shenanigans by other teams, what about Mitch Lawrence's report that Gilby already had an under the table deal with Gilby?"

Arenas had an under the table deal with himself?

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:55 PM

The Zards' a top three team? What a joke!
1 BOS
2 PHI
3 DET
4 ORL
5 TOR
6 MIA
7 CLE
8 ATL / WASH

Interesting take...Boston will be good, Brand doesn't make Philly #2, just better. What team has he led anywhere? Plus who knows how the achilles will react. Detroit will fall. Orlando won't repeat last years start, Turgolu can't repeat last season. Toronto, now Calderon has to lead for 40 minutes a game and JO is washed up, will finish about the same. Miami remains to be seen, could finish 2nd in the East, could not even make the playoffs. Cle is status quo and a year older, might not make the playoffs. Atlanta is solid as long as they keep at least one of the Josh's, Smith or Childress. The big 3 must stay healthy and play a little D, and we can be Top 4 in the East. Like Wilbon says, Zero has to earn that $111 million now. If he wants to be a superstar then show it!

Posted by: Me | July 9, 2008 2:03 PM

izman, always such a wit(less).

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 2:04 PM

IMO, Grunfeld needs to add a small forward, either Barnes or Childress. Don't sleep on Childress, the guy could get lots of minutes backing up Caron at the 3, or playing with CB when CB slides to the 2. Only question is will he settle for 2.5 to 3 million? If EG chooses to re-sign Mason, don't be surprised if AD is traded along with Pesh or Songalia to free up playing time. It all boils down to does EG place more value in having Mason or having a solid backup 3? Personally, I'd go with the 3.........

Posted by: Me | July 9, 2008 2:08 PM

I think its funny that no one mentions that Brand is coming off a ruptured achilles... But continue to harp on Gils meniscus, which in the world of knee injuries is the least serious.

Pesh needs to start jumping rope and doing footwork drills to help his game out

Posted by: DMoney | July 9, 2008 2:13 PM

"Playing 3-5 games a season against the likes of the Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Hornets, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Blazers, and Lakers would have drained Bostons tank a lot more over the course of a season than games against New York, New Jersey, Philly, Indy, Milwaukee, Miami, Charlotte, and Chicago."

Why on earth would you compare the West best to the East's NON PLAYOFF teams? That's plain stupid.

Posted by: Roy | July 9, 2008 2:17 PM

I like Barnes. He has heart. Although, Mickael Pietrus is a better defender and a much better choice.

Posted by: Alobar | July 9, 2008 2:18 PM

LMAO!

Too bad Abe burned his bridges with Falk with the Juwan Howard debacle. Otherwise, Brand could be wearing a Wizards jersey instead of Sixers.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 2:19 PM

"Nevermind backroom shenanigans by other teams, what about Mitch Lawrence's report that Gilby already had an under the table deal with Gilby?

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 1:49 PM

Which team had an under the table deal?

Posted by: | July 9, 2008 1:51 PM "

Correction.

Mitch Lawrence reported that EG had an under the table deal with Gilby. Ivan had it here on this blog as a discussion topic. It's all been swept under the rug since.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 2:22 PM

Playing 3-5 games a season against the likes of the Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Hornets, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Blazers, and Lakers would have drained Bostons tank a lot more over the course of a season than games against New York, New Jersey, Philly, Indy, Milwaukee, Miami, Charlotte, and Chicago.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 1:54 PM

Doubt it. The Celtics were/are known for going all out against every team, no matter the competition. Whether it was against Miami or against Detroit, the Celtics are known for bringing the same energy. There would've been a minimal difference in energy drain if the Celtics played in the west, if any difference at all.

And as for your other point regarding teams learning, gameplanning, etc. That proves nothing. All it says is that each team has an equal opportunity to improve against its competition. The Celtics could have just as easily improved their winning percentage through this reasoning rather than the opposite.

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 2:25 PM

Mitch Lawrence reported that EG had an under the table deal with Gilby. Ivan had it here on this blog as a discussion topic. It's all been swept under the rug since.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 2:22 PM

Aren't you allowed to re-negotiate with your player who is under contract?

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 2:26 PM

Alobar, Pietrus is going to Orlando.


At this point we'll be lucky to get Barnes. Pretty much everyone else has already agreed to go somewhere.

I would def be interested in Childress. But he is restricted I believe, and I would assume out of our price range. I'd love to get him though if possible.

I'd be happy with Barnes though. He's got a solid all-around game, is a good perimeter defender, and plays hard and with passion. He'd be nice off the bench behind Caron, and insurance in case of injury. He's a guy who's not going to complain about pt, and as a guy who has really had to work to stay in the league is a good example for our young players IMO.

And it's really cool to hear the tie in to Arenas!

Posted by: Darnell | July 9, 2008 2:36 PM

if Roger Mason Jr signs elsewhere, let it be to a team in the West preferrably so it doesn't come back to bite us. although that really couldn't be said for arvis Hayes when he signed in Detroit other than 1 game he lit us up. and he had more motivation because we gave up on him and he was a 1st round pick.

Posted by: G$ | July 9, 2008 2:42 PM

Wow, how about the Post's own Dan Steinberg & the DC Sports Bog calling Ivan out??

"But just by way of comparison, please bear in mind that in the four days following Gilbert Arenas's free-agent signing, which changed the direction of this franchise for years, the Wizards Insider had exactly one entry."

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 2:47 PM

In the matter of psps23 v. kalorama re: the relative strength of the Eastern conference versus the Western conference, the court finds in favor of psps23.

Psps23's arguments are based in large part upon discernable facts and statistics, along with well reasoned logic rebutting kalorama's assertions. Kalorama's arguments are based primarily upon what appear to be his own opinions and conjecture.

Decision for psps23.

Posted by: The Judge | July 9, 2008 2:48 PM

The Wizards are a solid to pretty good NBA team, nothing more, nothing less. They'll obviously never contend for a championship w/ what they have. The key to prosperity: winning the lottery. Unfortunately the Wizards won the lottery in the worst year imaginable and selected disastrous Kwame Brown who became Caron Butler. Butler's a nice player, but not of the star caliber to carry a team to the promised land. Examine the impact of the top 3 picks over the years: Lebron, Duncan, Magic, Olajuwon, Isaiah, Jordan, Ewing, Shaq, Kareem, Walton. All of this discussion about moves for journeymen type players amounts to a bag of beans, a stud is necessary ...

Posted by: Futile Arguments | July 9, 2008 2:55 PM

The Zards' a top three team? What a joke!
1 BOS
2 PHI
3 DET
4 ORL
5 TOR
6 MIA
7 CLE
8 ATL / WASH

Wow, this is a joke.

BOS will be on the top with either Det, ORL, or CLE following. the 4th spot is wide open. I see TOR dropping to 8th. I see MIA rising but anywhere around 7-9 b/c they have no chemistry. WAS and PHI will be probably be fighting for the 4th and 5th spot.

Wizards are NOT an 8th place team. our big 3 is more mature and healthier.

Posted by: mike | July 9, 2008 2:58 PM

Matt Barnes = Keith Bogans

Players that are cut from the same cloth. You know why these two have been in the league for as long as they have, despite not putting up big numbers?

Defense. That's it. These two "get it". They don't want the ball all the time or pull for a shot as soon as the rock touches their hands. They're both TEAM players and are good to great defenders.

If Keith Bogans were available, I'd be screaming for Washington to sign him.

Speaking of Bogans... Anyone heard anything from Joe Forte lately? Didn't he have a brother that went to Brown or something?

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 3:01 PM

"Still disagree with this assessment. 3 different teams from the East winning the NBA finals in the last 5 years coupled with the reasons in my earlier post tells me that the East is just as competitive as the West, if not more so."


PSPS23 or whatever you are a complete idiot. Im sure teams like Golden State and Portland wouldnt make the playoffs in the east. Just look at any of their seeds 3-8 and they are all better. SA much better than orlando. Utah much better then cleveland. Houston much better than us, Suns much better than toronto, Dallas much better than philly last year and Denver a million times better than atlanta. PSPS23 how in the world is the East better?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:16 PM

i don't think Denver is a million times better than Atlanta. to me they're even.

exactly.

just my o-pin through.

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 3:18 PM

"Cle is status quo and a year older, might not make the playoffs."

Me are you serious? As long as Lebron is healthy the cavs are a lock to make the playoffs every year. You could put 4 cripples around him and he would find a way to make it in the east.

The hawks had what 37/38 wins last year?

Also Miami will be better but they have a 0% chance of being the 2 seed.

Lets be realistic people everyone around here gets awfully carried away.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:20 PM

How is atlanta=denver. Denver 50 wins, Atlanta 38. If Denver was in the east they would be a top 4 team. Denver is better than the wizards.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:21 PM

could they sign and trade roger mason?

Posted by: ?mAn | July 9, 2008 11:17 AM

Not unless they find some way of altering the Collective Bargaining Agreement... You think the Union would go for it? You think the other 29 Owners would consider altering the agreement to allow the Wizards to sign and trade Mason - even though they don't own the "Bird" rights to Mason?

Hmm..... You work on that.. OK?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:22 PM

People get over Barnes

Matt barnes is a bum...he has played for like 8 different teams in 5 years and been cut from half of them. He is very inconsistent, an ok shooter, and a below average Defender who gets no rebounds. Why everyone here keeps acting like he is some great defender is beyond me. He is better than D-mac but he isn't going to do much to help this team.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:22 PM

and before someone cites 'Melo & A.I. as a reason Denver is better than Atlanta, I would suggest to you that you're wrong. Yes 'Melo is a great scorer, but not much else. Josh Smith has the better all around game. If only the man could put a consistent j together.

A.I. is A.I., period.

besides it ain't 'Melo & A.I. versus the Hawks. IMO the Hawks have a better TEAM than the Nuggets.

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 3:23 PM

As to how the heck was the GSW offer to Gilbert communicated - maybe it was communicated through his manager who was free to answer her phone?

Posted by: rgz | July 9, 2008 12:03 PM

Except that teams were forbidden from offering ANYTHING to Free Agents until July 9th. That includes talking to the player directly, their agent, their "Manager", their Secretary, Brother, Mother, Sister in Law, or anyone else. They could not even say anything to a newspaper reporter.

So the question remains, how did the Warriors convey their $100 Million offer without breaking the rules?

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 3:26 PM

Lighty Brothers ur opinion is officially worthless. Once again Denver 50 wins in a harder conference. Atlanta 38 wins. You can maybe say Atlanta has more potential with all that young talent but in no way are they better or equal last season or this season. Like I said Denver would be a top 4 seed in the East Denver is better than the wizards. Teams Like GST/Portland would be top 4 seeds in the east. The east is a joke and so are the wizards. It kills me to be a DC sports fan all our teams are complete jokes.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:26 PM

Also who said anything about melo and AI vs the hawks.

Camby, Kleiza, JR Smith, Nene when healthy, even kenyon martin are all solid players. Atlantas future might be better but in no way are they ready to compete with Denver

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:30 PM

this is for the anon douchebag that is antagonizing every post since 3 PM.

why don't you leave a name, crackbaby? are you afraid that someone will clown you or something. if you're going to post some BdotS like "nads" or something, then I wouldn't have an argument. but it appears you're trying to draw the ire of lighty brothers.

just attach a name to your rebuttal, mkay?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:31 PM

We could have made a run at Brand with Arenas money. Instead we got more of the same smelly stuff and are stuck with Zero for 6 long years. I am fed up with this ownership and management.

Posted by: basehitt | July 9, 2008 12:05 PM

And how, EXACTLY, could the Wizards have made a "run at Brand"?

Remember, even BEFORE Arenas signed, the Wizards were over the Salary Cap (or close to it)... therefore they could only offer Brand the Mid-Level Exception...

Even if they had renounced Arenas AND Jamison, they would only have been $14 Million under the Salary Cap..

Brand signed with Philly with a starting salary of around $15 Million.

SO......basehit..... How EXACTLY would YOU have made a "run at Brand"?

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM

^^^ Pot meet kettle.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM

"this is for the anon douchebag that is antagonizing every post since 3 PM.

why don't you leave a name, crackbaby? are you afraid that someone will clown you or something. if you're going to post some BdotS like "nads" or something, then I wouldn't have an argument. but it appears you're trying to draw the ire of lighty brothers.

just attach a name to your rebuttal, mkay?"

Where is ur name tough guy?

Why in the hell does it matter if I post a name. Lets get bitter b/c this kid keeps posting without a name...man thats infuriating.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM

Posted by: | July 9, 2008 3:26 PM

then stop being a fan, douchebag. go and cheer for a western conference team. you're an a--hole, you anon doofus. stop trying to pick apart other post and add something of your own accord, jackass.

man i hate gutless anon puss*es.

Posted by: mike lighty | July 9, 2008 3:34 PM

Mike Lighty-I hate tough guy internet dorks.

I bet if you saw me in real life you wouldn't say a word and keep walking. What are you going to with my name you want a name here call me steve, jim, tom, anon call me what ever the hell you want douchebag.

Its a blog Im typing in quick comments Im not trying to make friends like you douchebags.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:37 PM

Also all the little crybabies that whine about me being anon just makes me want to post more anon comments.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:38 PM

WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:39 PM

Im not trying to star fight Im just pointing out facts when people put there nonsense opinions out there.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:41 PM

I've read many posts on this blog and I'm still surprised that most people are not questioning the Wizards unwillingness to go over the luxury tax threshold. Many of you in your posts accept this fact and try to determine how the Wizards can get better while staying under the LT. I know trying to sign Posey at $5.5 million will actually cost $5.5 plus $2.5 = $8 million. Really, after we beat Cleveland in the playoffs next year will any of you care if Posey salary put us over the LT. Sh**, even Erie and Abe would forget about that extra $2.5 million. Come on everybody (including you Ivan) let's demand that the Wizard make a decent offer for Posey.

Posted by: Dthefan | July 9, 2008 3:41 PM

Don't understand how Elton Brand coming off a torn achilles tendon and taking a team to the playoffs once in 9 years is a better investment than Agent Zero. Philly got better, but their PG Miller is 33 and coming off a career year. Besides Igoudala, they have a pretty pedestrian team with little depth. They used a gimmick pressing defense that teams figured out by the end of the season.

The Wizards simply get better by a return to health of their franchise player and backup center (Thomas). Childress will get way more to stay with Atlanta than the $3M we can offer. Barnes will come cheaper and provide the same versatility off the bench & allow EJ to reduce Caron's minutes. Another year of development by NY and Blatche with AD playing on the 2nd unit strengthens our bench.

The Wiz are a 50+ win team (if healthy) and should compete with Orlando in the SE. Worse case is that they end up in the 4th or 5th seed (preferably 4th). Atlanta has made no offseason moves and may lose a player in FA, Toronto added Jermaine O'Neal and his worn out body, and Philly added Brand. I don't see how any of those 3 teams leapfrog the Wiz next year.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 9, 2008 3:46 PM

Yall r worse than the defenseless Wizards! When are you gonna realize defense win championships, not 90 points from 3people!

Posted by: L!pty | July 9, 2008 3:51 PM

"Matt Barnes does a little of everything and he can play several positions, plus he's a good 3 pt shooter.

Posted by: Ernie Grunfeld's mustache | July 9, 2008 1:07 PM"

Uh...Barnes shot 29% from behind the arc last season...is that considered good?

Posted by: Nick | July 9, 2008 3:51 PM

another guy i'd have liked to see the wiz sign last yr when he was on the market was Ruben Patterson. he rebounds and plays tough man/help d and doesn't need the offense to run through him. we need an enforcer like that!

Posted by: G$ | July 9, 2008 3:52 PM

Why are we going after Matt Barnes? Is he really going to help us get to the next round? Unless he can shutdown Lebron, he'll be useless on this team. IMO, the zards still need a big physical guy down low that can play some defense and grab some boards. They get killed down low all the time.

I'd go after a veteran like Kurt Thomas. He can bang down low and can bring some nice veteran leadership to the team.

Posted by: disremembered | July 9, 2008 4:05 PM

How come no one is beating the drum for signing Juan Dixon to a veteran minimum offer to be the 5th guard?

It's sad how his career has fallen off, but I guess that's what happens when you consistently break off the offense to fire up junk that goes in 40% of the time.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 4:07 PM

I am disliking Matt Barnes the more I hear about his horrible 3 point shooting percentage. That said, it'll probably be a lock that the team signs him:

1) Before Jamsion signed here, he played his game inside the arc, as evidenced by his career 3 point attempts being just over 200 (last 3 seasons w/ the Warriors). However, he's matched (when he got hurt and missed 14 games) or exceeded that (his other 3 seasons here) by 75%.

2)Stevenson never attempted more than 71 shots behind the arc in a season prior to coming here. However, he's taken 118 and 413 three's.

3) Butler's been fairly consistent, but last year, his attempts spiked up, even though he missed 24 games. Expolated, he would have attempted 250+, which would have been more than twice his previous career high in a season.

4) Matt Barnes attempted 290 & 181 his only two seasons in Golden St. His attempts are bound to increase, bench player or starter, if he signs here.

We need more guys to play their game inside the arc. Good thing Jeffries is no longer with the team, he was falling in love with his bricks...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 4:08 PM

Oh, and Arena's has averaged over 6 three pt attempts/game in each of his seasons here, which comes out to over 500 attempts in 80 games (I know there's 82 in a full season...), his career high in Golden State, 313 his last year, an average of under 4 attempts/game...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 4:16 PM

"Aren't you allowed to re-negotiate with your player who is under contract?

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 2:26 PM "

Gilby opted out. You can't negotiate until after 7/1, but Mitch Lawrence reported that there were talks.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 4:22 PM

"So Gil's saying all the right things while he's in SE Asia, that's the first steps of getting out of "Gilbertology" and becoming a team player. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely needs to back that up on the court & locker room, especially the talk about taking the team to the championship level.

This is a good change of pace from all the talk about "I'm going to drop 100 points on the coaches who didn't give me a fair shot at the Olympics." Again, he'll need to back it up on the court, and I think we should grant him more than a few games to do that...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 10:22 AM "


The brash Arenas was vintage Agent Zero as he entertained the German reporters, pumping for the game with promises of all the thrills and intensity of a regular-season contest.

"I'll score, say, 35 in 20 minutes," he said. "It's a real rivalry. It's going to be a serious game -- both teams don't like each other."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3480557

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 4:27 PM

The NBA can look into Mitch Lawrence's accusations, but I doubt they'll find anything outside the norm. Jamison (or his reps) was apparently contacted by the 76ers, and Golden St managed to reach out to Arenas quickly too. If we're LUCKY, maybe we'll lose our top-100 protected pick from Memphis, I think that is losing stock like the Zimbabwean (sp) currency...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 4:28 PM

Gilby opted out. You can't negotiate until after 7/1, but Mitch Lawrence reported that there were talks.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 4:22 PM

Could it be that the talks were from before he opted out?

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2008 4:37 PM

"The NBA can look into Mitch Lawrence's accusations, but I doubt they'll find anything outside the norm. Jamison (or his reps) was apparently contacted by the 76ers, and Golden St managed to reach out to Arenas quickly too. If we're LUCKY, maybe we'll lose our top-100 protected pick from Memphis, I think that is losing stock like the Zimbabwean (sp) currency...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 4:28 PM "

I don't doubt that the Wiz will not be hurt by the accusation. Therefore, what the Sixers or GS or Clips supposedly did is not beyond something the Wiz would do.

On a side note, Mario Chalmers is looking very good now. We could have used him at the 1 moreso than McGee at 4/5. McGee better look good come summer league time, or there will be some serious hollering on this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 9, 2008 4:40 PM

Joe Forte re-enrolled at North Carolina 1-2 years ago to complete his degree (do not know whether he has completed his coursework yet). Don't know whether his brother is still at Brown or if he's used up his eligibility.

Posted by: iceberg | July 9, 2008 4:56 PM

Getting ready to go on washington post live in a minute. Wiz just announced they've signed javale mcgee. It's a standard rookie deal. More later.

Posted by: ivan | July 9, 2008 4:59 PM

Just to reiterate an earlier post:
WAH
WAH
WAH

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 5:01 PM

Stevenson, Butler and Jamison attempted more 3's last year b/c Gil wasnt out there chucking up 10 a game.

Dont forget Stevenson and Butler became pretty damn good from behind the arc

Posted by: DMoney | July 9, 2008 5:03 PM

I think it's a good idea to go after Barnes. We need someone in that 6'8" range with some quickness. Deshawn is too small to guard Lebron and Caron is too slow. I wouldn't pay much attention to Barnes' three point numbers. Just get a tape of the Dallas/Golden State series from 2 years ago and watch what he brings to the table.

Posted by: bryan | July 9, 2008 5:05 PM

EJ gives these guys the green light to pull 3's that's why they take more of them here. the issue is taking open ones after some good inside/outside ball movement which often is not the case with our team. we also have to have someone to knock down mid-range j's and the threat of penetration to attack the basket. when arenas and butler were healthy, they attacked the basket just as much as they took 3's and it opened up looks for others for 2 or 3. hopla also had an effect on the shooting which is why deshawn and butler felt they could hit more from outside. because butler and arenas shoot a high percentage from the line, they should attack the rim more off the dribble. problem is, that leaves them more prone to injury so its give & take.

Posted by: G$ | July 9, 2008 5:17 PM

"another guy i'd have liked to see the wiz sign last yr when he was on the market was Ruben Patterson. he rebounds and plays tough man/help d and doesn't need the offense to run through him. we need an enforcer like that!

Posted by: G$ | July 9, 2008 3:52 PM"

I'm with you G$, here's part of my comments from Ivan's Blog on September 26, 2007. He was asking for questions that should be put to Wizards management before training camp.


2. Was Ruben Patterson ever a consideration to sign? The Wizard not only need defensive help in the post, but they also need it on the perimeter. Patterson would have brought that as well as toughness and energy off the bench. In addition, he would have been another strong defender to throw at LeBron James.

Posted by: Dthefan | July 9, 2008 5:26 PM

"Doubt it. The Celtics were/are known for going all out against every team, no matter the competition. Whether it was against Miami or against Detroit, the Celtics are known for bringing the same energy.

Uh ... so? None of that even addresses my point. The fact that Boston goes all out against every team is irrelevant. That's what they're supposed to do. The important factor is the quality of teams they're going all out against. They're going to get better results going all out against the weaker competition in the East than they will against the deeper stronger teams in the West.

"There would've been a minimal difference in energy drain if the Celtics played in the west, if any difference at all.

Dead wrong. If they played a greater number of games against better, deeper, more talented teams (which they would in the West) then they would, as a matter of basic logic, have to expend more energy to beat those teams than they would to beat lesser teams in the East.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 5:33 PM

Rueben Patterson? Don't think so.

Pollin traded Webber because of a traffic stop and a pot possession bust. I really don't see him opening his arms to "the nanny stopper."

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 5:40 PM

Hey man, sex offenders need love, too!

Posted by: Reuben Patterson | July 9, 2008 6:00 PM

Wiz just announced they've signed javale mcgee. It's a standard rookie deal. More later.

Posted by: ivan | July 9, 2008 4:59 PM

Whew, what a relief!! I was so worried that he was going to holdout and the season would be ruined!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 6:03 PM

If you knew anything about basketball, until the 76ers add a shooter, there is nothing to be worried about. You pack it in on Brand and dare Miller, Iggy, and Young to beat you from outside. Oh yeah, those guys shoot about 35% combined from outside. Just thought I let you know, STOP OVERREACTING...

Posted by: Vince | July 9, 2008 6:11 PM

They don't have to shoot threes to take advantage on defenses collapsing on Brand. They can also drive to the middle, pull up. and take midrange jumpshots. Or they can post Brand hard to one side of the floor and when the help comes, reverse the ball quickly to the opposite (less guarded) side and drive it to the basket.

Those are the kinds of things that having a double-team worthy big man will do for you.

Posted by: kalorama | July 9, 2008 6:41 PM

Matt Barnes (28 y/o, 6.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg) -- Remember last summer when people thought he was worth more than the $3 million Golden State gave him? He'd be lucky to get that kind of money now.

Posted by: overrated | July 9, 2008 7:18 PM

Quinton Ross (27 y/o, 4.1 ppg, 2.3 rpg) -- His rep as a younger, skinnier Bruce Bowen isn't as strong as it was when the Clippers were good, but he's valuable nonetheless.

Posted by: Quinton | July 9, 2008 7:24 PM

What do you think it would take to sign Ricky Davis?

Posted by: oddjob | July 9, 2008 7:40 PM


EG was asleep at the wheel again. No creative deals whatsoever. Same ole, non-moves as usual.

The Wiz will be lucky and I mean LUCKY to make the playoffs this upcoming season.

Most of the Eastern Conference teams that were borderline playoffs and ones like Philly which barely made it, have improved dramatically.

Philly signs E. Brand.

Knicks sign C. Duhon.

Orlando signs M. Pietrus (sp.).

Charlotte Bobcats....Larry Brown is the new HC and they get back a lot of injured players.

Indiana..they may not be playoff contenders..but they're freeing up future cap space to make deals down the line.

Wiz sign...0...goose egg so far. Status quo. Who cares if they just inked McGee?!?! He wasn't going to reject his deal...it's already slotted in terms of $$$.

The Wiz need to move D. Stevenson and Opech. Those are the most expendable and the ones that won't really come back to haunt them in the future. Make sure Opech goes to a Western team is all. If he ever reaches his potential, he'll just be a Vlade Divac-like player...very good..but not dominating.

There's a whole lot of "potential" sitting on the bench and not a lot of production due to lack of minutes or goofiness and immaturity, excluding DSong and AD.

Wizards are going nowhere fast. They will be lottery bound..or most likely getting the worst lottery pick spot (13??).

Hey we got a first round pick from Memphis, right?? Nope...we got an imaginary 1st round pick...non-existent...instead the Wizards and Wiz fans have to wait 4 or 5 seasons for a jaw-dropping, team-altering 2nd round pick!! In the words of Derrick Coleman, "Whoop dee damn do!"

Posted by: Baller4Life | July 9, 2008 8:28 PM

The NBA can look into Mitch Lawrence's accusations, but I doubt they'll find anything outside the norm. Jamison (or his reps) was apparently contacted by the 76ers, and Golden St managed to reach out to Arenas quickly too. If we're LUCKY, maybe we'll lose our top-100 protected pick from Memphis, I think that is losing stock like the Zimbabwean (sp) currency...

Posted by: CN | July 9, 2008 4:28 PM

CN - if that's true, that Philly "reached out" to Jamison; then they are in violation of League rules and should be fined by the League if it can be proven. Fines can be monitary, or other types of punishment (see Minnesota, and their loss of 3 first round picks for the Joe Smith tampering incident).

Jamison was NEVER A FREE AGENT. His contract was good through June 30th. He agreed to terms with the Wizards on June 30th.

If Philly actually DID contact Jamison (or his agent - or anyone else associated with Jamison) - PRIOR to July 1st, then that's considered "TAMPERING".

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 10:40 PM

Oh - and by the way - the Wizards were ALLOWED to talk to their own players while they were under contract(Arenas and Jamison) ....

They were allowed to negotiate with Jamison, because he was under contract.

The same with Arenas - The Wizards were allowed to talk with Arenas up to the day he opted out of his contract and became a Free Agent. After that date, the Wizards were under the same constraints as other teams - not allowed to talk to Arenas about a new contract until July 1st. It's no secret that Grunfeld and Pollin both wanted to retain Arenas. Perhaps they told him that during negotiations prior to him opting out... that kind of talk is perfectly fine - as long as no "pre arranged" deal is struck.

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 10:46 PM

If you knew anything about basketball, until the 76ers add a shooter, there is nothing to be worried about. You pack it in on Brand and dare Miller, Iggy, and Young to beat you from outside. Oh yeah, those guys shoot about 35% combined from outside. Just thought I let you know, STOP OVERREACTING...

Posted by: Vince | July 9, 2008 6:11 PM

They could always sign Roger Mason - He'd be a very good fit for them.

Posted by: Rook | July 9, 2008 10:52 PM

Tired of all this... we need all "good character" guys on the team. Patterson's play on the court speaks for itself. Other than Heywood occasionally and Caron, we lack that agressive presence. I agree there is some level of maturity and professionalism that must take place off the floor and in the locker room but the great teams (other than the Spurs)can and have won in spite of a little thuggishness. Detroit won with Rasheed. Chicago won with Rodman. Heck, Georgetown won with Michael Graham if you want to go back that far. As long as you have a core group of leaders on the team and the coaching staff to keep those types of guys in check, it works.

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