What is wrong with us? In September 1900, as told in Erik Larsons book, "Isaac's Storm," the U.S. government, and specially the newly formed National Weather Service, would not accept the predictions of Cuba's weather forecasters that a powerful hurricane was on its way, northwest in the Gulf. Our hubris then, our colonialism then, cost more than 8,000 lives--quite possibly 10,000, in Galveston, Texas.

As I read in Joel Achenbach's blog at washingtonpost.com, Rick Santorum wants to blame the current Katrina disaster this time around on the National Weather Service. The chutzpah! If I were I citizen of Pennsylvania, I would vote Sen. Santorum out of office as quickly as a tornado can whirl.

Cuba, I am sorry.

Cuba has refused aid from the U.S. and Europe for the victims of
hurracains that have hit the island in the
past, so why should the US accept their aid
unless it desperately needs it. Cuba is
just showing off, as well as Venezuela.

What else is news?

Cubans doctors are not cerified to practice in the US. There is no shortage of US doctors. Certainly no shortage of noncertified foreign trained doctors.

The USG gave all governments - and that would include the Cuban government - lists of needed supplies. This included cots and generators. Nothing that Cuba has offered has been on that list.

Cuba is no the only country that has offered items not on the list submitted by the US. And those governments have been politely refused as well. Not just Cuba.

There is no shortage of trained medical personnel in the affected areas. Why further endanger the victims of Hurricane Katrina by exposing them to the additional danger of unlicensed doctors? This would be a criminal act. An act that cpould - and should - be prosecuted under state law.

My question would be - why are you making such a fuss about the Cuban's government's offer of non-requested and not wanted non board certified "doctors"? It is as absurd as Venezuela's offer to send its troops.

You are the one turning this issue political. Not the US government.

So you compare Cuba to Israel, typical of your consistently anti-semitic views.

This blog is a non-starter. Arlene and zzzdoglie are right. We don't need doctors, Cuban or otherwise, they would not be able to legally practice, and the Cubans are just making political capital.

Next blog!

It is quite inconceivable that after 46 years of dealing with Castro there still are people that dont' understand his game. Castro offer is just a political ploy to obtain as much ink as posible from people that will argue in favor of his action do to their naivette, their ignorance or they simply dont'care about the oppresion that he has impossed on the Cuban people.

Castro is simply playing politics for the fools to argue on his favor. Any person that knows a little about Cuba could attest that the offered help will be better used in Cuba where there is a tremendous need for medical assistance and medicine. Ah please, dont' try to blame the so called embargo(which is missnomer, Castro can, and had, trade with anaybody he wants) for the scarcity of medicine. Catro can purchase medicine a lot cheaper in Mexico and Canada than in the U.S.

It is an unfortunate fact of life that aid is politicized by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. The victims are once again those very same people who suffered loss of family, homes, jobs, neighborhoods, schools and businesses. Again, charitable giving is exploited by unscrupulous individuals for personal gain. While it may be true that some individuals/groups/nations come forward to help to make you feel helpless and thus make a statement that they are better off than you are, it is also clear that many of the donors give help because they share the pain of those who need help. Turning down this kind of help on the pretense of a false sense of pride does not speak well of our politicians, rather it is a cruel act that unjustly deprives the victims of the help they deserve and would be grateful for.

Well, Cuba you are not alone. Mexico has suffered the same discrimination from the US as well. The Mexican Army went thru hell to get aid into the US. They were inspected at the border, the tractors were inspected by X-ray machines and, if I didn't know well the operation, the glorious US Customs and Border Protection (no offense meant, I know they only followed orders) had to go and see everything that was in the trailers. The only thing that is left is to find out if the trucks were inspected by USDOT or Department of Public Safety, or maybe the IRS asked for the Form 2290 for using the US Highways. Furthermore, after going through this, even though it was humanitarian help. The health Department had to inspect the temperature of the food that was being served to see if it complied with our policies, and after that the Health Department gave them a permit to feed our refugees (no offense meant to anybody's color, race, or whatever else somebody feels uncomfortable with because refugee means being displaced from your home also). By the way, the Mexican Army galantly passed all of the US Department of Health policies (lesson learned).This is plain stupid. There are people that need to be fed desperately and we still have to deal with the bureaucracy of every other department in the US????? God help us. We need to show some humility in this cases. Don't get me wrong, I am proud to be a US citizen, but I am ashamed of what the people from other countries are going through to help us, well, what can I say.

zzzdoglie, that might make good sense if Cuba had been 'politely refused' like the others as you say, but as far as I know it's been pointedly ignored.
There may be good reasons for turning down their aid, but refusing to even answer the offer looks childish and stupid.
America's behaviour towards Cuba exactly the same sort of sulk the US threw over Nicaragua.
Of course, in both cases the US was just defending democracy and refusing to deal with tyrants.
Except that neither Castro nor the Sandinistas overthrew US-backed democracies - their crime was to overthrow US-backed tyrants.
Deny it.

It seems that we have, once again missed the point... When there is a crisis, when there is a tragedy, we are all human and we all bleed the same. It is a natural human response to want to help whether it comes from Cuba or Canada, from our own states or from our neighbors.
Already in this crisis we have seen the worst that human carry inside but do we have to continue to feed it by assuming that an offer of help is anything more then just that?
I would hope that should this have happened in Cuba, that our people and our govenment as well, would offer to help and in wanting the best possible outcome - all help would be gratefully and Thankfully accepted.

Cuba is known for having among the best trained doctors in the world. Their standards are considered much more rigorous than those of the US, it is harder to become a doctor in Cuba than it is here.

That said, they were showing off. Their behavior should make people think about how others feel when the US offers aid, there is a power relationship in charity that can be condescending.

Cuba's record on human rights should be compared to North Korea's, not Israel's! Cubans guilty of nothing more than dissent sit in Castro's prisons, in conditions as bad as (if not worse than) what some Katrina victims experienced in New Orleans, but no doctors come to their relief. If you honestly believe that this offer was something more than political, you have been decieved. The US was right to decline assistance from Castro.

zzzdoglie, I believe that if you were in the same situation like those people down there in New Orleans and dieing of dissease or lack of food, you wouldn't be asking everybody if they were US certified doctors or nurses, and frankly if you did that, I guess by now you would be facing a much grimmer outcome, sorry, but that is the plain truth.

Aid for disaster victims should be accepted from everyone. Politcs can resume after the recovery.

Yeah, criticizing the prison policies of other countries is a bad way to talk about human rights, considering we put more people in jail than any other "1st. world" country in the world, and then deny people the right to vote once they get out despite the fact that its unconstitutional.

Also, our prisons are brutal, inhumane, and draconian.

Should people no longer accept our aid?

The fact that Cuban physicians are unlicensed in the U.S. should not be an issue. U.S. physicians are licensed on a state-by-state basis. In disasters, it is common for licensing requirements for health care personnel to be waived.

As I understand it, despite its many problematic policies, Cuba provides good education and health care for its citizens, which is more than can be said about the U.S.

So, yes, they were showing off. Why shouldn't they? We're the ones that look stupid for turning down help.

Alas, more sympathy in the press for Cuba. Cuban aid abroad, specifically doctors, are a tool of coercive foreing policy, generally sent to other thirld world nations in exchange for hard currency and support at the UN. Having lived as a foreigner in Cuba and worked with many Cuban doctors, I assure you that Cuba's doctors are far from the best trained in the world and their "model" health care system is a disaster. 1,000 plus Cuban doctors are desperately needed in Cuba, where helth care for Cubans is rationed and priority given to foreigners who can pay hard currency. Rather than play into Castro's hands when he does this sort of silly offer for the umpteenth time, the press should just ignore him. He can't stand it.

Is there no level that Americans would not stoop to defend this incompetent racist adminstration? Cuba whether for good or ill made a humanitarian gesture after all they were able to take care of their people during a hurricane last year much better than the US. So please shut up the US is not #1 in anything except arrogance and all the pro-israel crowd in DC please shut up the Likud gov't is worse than Cuba when it comes to human rights.

Calling this administration incompetent and racist is idiot speak. We are correct to view anything from Castro with the utmost suspicion, especially material or personnel arriving under the guise of 'humanitarian aid.' I just love how Mr. Morley thinks 40,000 Hondurans need 'spanish doctors,' excuse me, but isn't it presumptuously racist of you to assume they don't speak English? Welcome to dysfunctional USA circa 2005, bash the feds because the 'spanish doctors,' were left sitting in Havanna. Well done. With people like you in print, our enemies need no propaganda.

What's the big deal? So we are selective as to who we allow into the country and who we will accept aid from. With the logic presented here, we should accept aid from N. Korea or from Osama simply because it was offered. Everyone knows why we don't accept aid from Cuba. It doesn't have to make sense to someone backing rapprochement with Cuba. It's a very partisan article.

The only people who should have a say on whether to be treated by cuban doctors are the hurricaine victims. Let the cuban doctors and medicine in, and then---even tho this is a foreign concept in Amrica---let the people most affected decide.

Very nice hyperlinks to Spanish-language websites. It's a truly excellent idea for your now daily World Opinion Roundup to include links to some sites in the major international languages other than English.

This is the kind of thing that sets the Washington Post apart.

Keep up the good work!

The whole "if you critize america you're a traitor" rhetoric is getting old. The only betrayal I see is the federal government allowing american citizens to starve while it preserves its own sense of pride. Our enemies might not need propaganda, but they certainly don't need to worry about coming over here to kill us since this incompetent administration can kill american citizens very efficiently without outsourcing to terrorists.

"So you compare Cuba to Israel, typical of your consistently anti-semitic views."

I am so sick of people crying anti-semitism for every microscopic speck of reference/criticism/opinion, etc., about Israel, come on, cut us some slack here, you are as human beings as the rest of the world!, therefore, prone to make mistakes who told you you are untouchable?. Give me a break!

Does my opinion make me an anti-semite?

I'm just sitting here so happy because of how divided the US has become. This does my heart well to see how one man came in under a banner of uniting people quickly changed and has brought the US one step closer to self-destruction.

Just read your comments people.

Maybe some Americans in this blog need to do some research of their own about Cuban doctors. How about asking some industrialize Europeans nations where their doctors get trained?

Stupid Americans are ignorant of the fact that Cuban doctors are one of the best in the world, so take all your stupid U.S certificate and shove it up your...

Cuban's health system is one of the best in the world. Every citizen is insured, unlike the poor from New Orleans and other states.

It's stupid of the US to act like a snob about accepting help from other nations--its obvious to the rest of the world that the government failed the people from Katrina--So TAKE THE HUMBLE PIE AND EAT IT!

Cuban's health system is one of the best in the world. Every citizen is insured, unlike the poor from New Orleans and other states.

reality check this! -- Samantha routinely comments on Mr. Morley as being an "anti-semite" even though Mr. Morley is only discussing the news and events that appear in newspapers from other countries.

Me thinks Samantha and others are just trolls trying to stir comments from people like us. They should be ignored.

so why should the US accept their aid
unless it desperately needs it. Cuba is
just showing off, as well as Venezuela

Listen, moron, people are suffering and dying. This is not supposed to be about politics. Got it? Are you that worried about the U.S. having improved relations with Cuba that you'd deny sick and dying U.S. citizens medical assets?

What sickness do you suffer from? Party-before-country Republicanism? Disgusting...

The 'criticize America & you are a traitor' defense is what's getting old. Just curious, what does 'Our enemies might not need propaganda' mean? Does it mean you gleefully acknowledge that you support and perpetuate the false rhetoric of the Cubas of the world? Its funny and sad how wrong some of these posts are in how they view Cuba. Its a shame none of you will likely ever understand what it means to be a citizen of Cuba under the Castro regime. Because then you would truly know tyranny, you would truly understand slavery, they would not be abstract topics you could casually dismiss on the way to your next meal.

Sorry can't help myself. 'Mr. Morley is only discussing the news and events that appear in newspapers from other countries.' Actually thats not true, at least in this case, read Mr. Morley's words again, do they sound even remotely impartial? And that's the problem with Morley and Kurtz for that matter. Its all fine and dandy to report on other media, but both of these men routinely enter in their own idelogical stances to stories. Given the outlet, their ideology comes as no surprise, but if you're writing an editoral call it an editoral.

yes PTM, we shall all bask in the wisdom of your first hand experience of living under the Castro regime. Not to mention your "true knowledge of slavery" obtained when you were a slave. Except we won't, becuase you have no more of a visceral understanding of living under Castro than anyone else who's ever read a book about Cuba.

Please don't speak so strongly about things you have no way of understanding to other people, as though you are so rich in personal experiences of oppression, specifically in Castros Cuba. Slavery is just as much of an abstract topic for you as anyone else on this board, so leave the high horse at home.

The real reason Bush doesn't want Cuban doctors in the US is that Americans might find out that even a poor country like Cuba can afford universal health care, while the AMA, Big Pharma, and the insurance profiteers deny it to the US.

Bashing Cuba is massively hypocriticalwhen the United States now imprisons people for years at a time on no charge at all. No trial, no proof, and no end in sight. Seems to me all those out there protesting might start protesting right here at home.Those one way glasses, that allow you to only see the faults of other nations are really dishonest.

There may be *enough*doctors in the U.S.,but I have seen firsthand in Louisiana and Mississippi, right now are areas where thousands of people STILL have not gotten help. One place had one doctor who went there on his own,and he's struggling to take care of all the people.

Our government turned down some of the best-trained doctors (who are especially trained for disaster aid) in the world because of our arrogance.

Everyday Americans (who are extraordinary in their compassion) are the ones who are in the trenches, going town to town, looking for those forgotten souls that FEMA and other big agencies never searched for.

Which country will the rest of the world look at as silly not to except the help.

yes PTM, we shall all bask in the wisdom of your first hand experience of living under the Castro regime. Not to mention your "true knowledge of slavery" etc, etc.

Did I say I lived in Cuba? Did I say I even read a book about Cuba? Um, no, Mr. Anonymous. But because I am a Latino, I have relations with a several Cubans, it is their stories that I've relied upon to get a glimpse of the Castro regime. I don't think they are liars, but if it makes you feel better to call me, and by extension them, liars, I really don't care. Knock yourself out. From what I've learned from these people yes being a Cuban citizen that isn't Castro's friend is like being a slave. Where do you glean your insight from? Do you know anyone from Cuba? Anyone not tied to Castro? I think you were presumptuous and condescending because you didn't like what I said, but that's not a very good reason is it? Eres un wevonaso. Maybe you can get all your Cuban friends to translate that for you.

"Meanwhile, the Cuban doctors, according to Granma, continue to train for a mission to the Unitegd States "

If they are qualified Drs, what are they being trained for? Is it English training they're getting?

All of you that favor the acceptance of Cuban aid by the US Govt., have not knowledge of history and you are all behaving like functional illiterates. To see if you all still have any gray matter left in your brain I dare you to open the following link and try to digest its content: http://www.babalublog.com/archives/001452.html
To read The Political Testament of Miguel Angel Quevedo (translated from the spanish version)

For those of you who want to read the letter and opening commentary in the original Spanish, click here: http://www.contactomagazine.com/quevedo100.htm

"Freedom is not inherited from the last generation, it must be fought for and won by every generation". Reagan

What I want to know is why there are Blackwater mercenaries,Israili mercenaries,Mexican troops and domestic mercenaries in New Orleans. The place is a completely militarized zone where journalists are threatened and thousands of troops are just hanging around the streets. Oh yeah, Castro's Cuba has some of the best emergency doctors in the world. Believe it or not a person can be a good doctor even without a piece of paper from the USA.

PTM,

You need to look up the word abstract. You have no concrete experience of being a slave, in Cuba or otherwise.

I'm not going to call your friends liars, because I don't know them, nor in fact do I know you. Nor do you know anyone on this board, but that didn't stop you from accusing everyone of "perpetuating the false rhetoric of the Cuba's of the world" an ironic statement, given that you called everyone who questioned the actions of the US government a traitor. That sounds to me like the same kind of reasoning that leads to Fascist regimes like Castro's. All we need now is for more people like you to decide that so called "traitors" need to be appropriately punished.

So much for freedom. It sounds like you'd fit right at home in Castro's Cuba, I wonder why you criticize it so much.

Wait so, we shouldn't accept aid from Cuba because they're an immoral kleptocracy?

its good the rest of the world has lower standards, or they'd never accept aid from us.

And then you quote Ronald Reagan? the man who armed Saddam and trained Bin Laden? traded arms to Iran? supported the facist Contras in Nicaragua?

I think you are the one who needs your gray matter checked.

Why are you people so paranoid about the little island of Cuba? Your disgraceful 40 year embargo has done nothing except cause economic suffering to the people of that nation.

During that time, they have been able to achieve a literacy rate, an infant survival rate and a post secondary education rate much higher than the US.

They are hard working, peace loving people who have the misfortune of living near one of the most powerful, wasteful, warlike, self centered countries on the planet.

They offered much needed help because your government was not up to the task. You should all be very ashamed.

Another politically motivated response to this latest and greatest of great American failures. Third one on King George's watch. (911,Iraq/AbuGraib,New Orleans)

Throw the bums out.

But I digress.

Para el sonso que se llame 'che'. Nice, if I despise Cuba for all its lies, I am a hateful bigot who can't decide what's best for his country. Buen hecho, con tu ayuda todo los latinos que no estetan de aquerdo contigo se van la mierda, lo digo que tu eres el que no sabe derecho y izquerida, y que si vives en Cuba te mueres ante de ser Sra. Castro. Que se callan los wevones, sonso.

Por favor seria divertido tu repuesta sonsonaso. Cuando queres?

Solo puedo repitir...cuando respondes sonsonaso? Sonsonaso? Sonsonaso? Sonsonaso? Sonsonaso? Sonsonaso?

Cuando se callan los wevones que no saben ni mierda? Por que no estan hoy dia? Con tanta noticia y se olvidan de mi, por que son cadavres? Por que son mientirosos?

Para que lo sabes sonso, Pregunta? es mi, butaso. Y tu madre lo sabe tambien wevon. Buen deseo butaso!

Che wevon:

abstract:

Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.
Not applied or practical; theoretical. See Synonyms at theoretical.
Difficult to understand; abstruse: abstract philosophical problems.
Thought of or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract words like truth and justice.
Impersonal, as in attitude or views.
Having an intellectual and affective artistic content that depends solely on intrinsic form rather than on narrative content or pictorial representation: abstract painting and sculpture.

Maybe you need a lesson in ingles heh sonsito? Looks like I got abstract down to a t, you on the other hand...like I said bury your head in a book sonsito...ciao para siempre wevon, te espero con Erika, buta.

erika22192@yahoo.com. si tienes cajones buta.

I travel to Cuba, and PTM has no idea what he is talking about! Cuba is a wonderful country, the people are happy, well fed, have excellent health care and education.

All his stuff he is mindlessly spewing is Gusano rhetoric that are basless lies!

Shame on the US govt

What the united states has to offer to their citizens. There are 44 millions of american who dont have health insurance. how could it been happening in the most powerful country in the world. Cuba has the best ratio of doctor per people. Cuba has been blockade for over 40 years and still standing up, facing the most powerful country in the history. Castro is a good leader for me, he has the cojones to face the yankee, no other latin american leader beside castro and now CHAVEZ had defied the USA.Tell your cawoy bush that he is a coward that he never got a gun in his hands to figth for his beliefs as castro did 50 years a go. bush is no an leader, he is another rich american president defending the rich people interest in the USA.

The lungs of Greece, Macedonia

By Athanasiadis Konstantinos k_aliris@yahoo.com

It is the lack of history the Slavs have in the region called Macedonia that leads them to practically steal a Greek name and symbol, putting on their flag the sixteen edged star.
The adoption of a Greek name for their new republic is a way of making a history for their people, (never has the name of a region given the name to a race, but vice versa.) Taking on that name is a way of showing that they have been populating in this region as long as the Greeks have, thus hoping that it will insure and stabilize their existence in the specific region. It is obvious that their choice of a name for their republic is clearly political and strategic, rather than being a name that emerges from their own history.
(A history that can't give them self-confidence, but on the contrary making them vulnerable to claimants from neighbour countries like Albania Bulgaria and Serbia.)
Never has an ethnic group chosen a name for its nation based on the geographical region it populates but it has always been the other way around, a nation tend to give the name to a region after its population's name, and or its history.
Furthermore this choice of name has created an antiparathesis with Greece, giving the Skopians something to bargain with, either for creating a united Macedonia with the part in Greece that would give them access to the Mediterranean Sea, which would be their only chance to develop economically, and so be able to survive in the region, or to give the Skopians something to bargain with when a time to join the European community will come up. It must be known that if Greece didn't relocate a lot of its factories to Skopia its people would starve even more.
It is truly sad that a race should be so afraid and ashamed of her origins that it would deny it, but that is understandable as they are in such a fragile position.

It is funny how the Skopians claim that Phillip, father of Alexander the Great is one of their forefathers, so trying to state a Macedonian descent, and so "forging" an existence in the region further back in time than they are entitled to. Many people believe that the Skopians are doing this because they will later on claim parts from northern Macedonia and so unite with Greece....
. About the city Skopia, Its name originates from the Greek name "Σκοποί" (Skopi), meaning (guard, watch) Skopia was in other words a fortress built by Alexander's forces to guard Macedonia from enemies while Alexander and the Greek army was in Asia

A little bit of history
In the year of 540 CE. Two waves of incursions took place, this is where the Slavic race first appears in the Macedonian region, they where following the Hunnic tribes together with the Andes as grooms for the Hunnic horses. The Slavs originate from central Russia (Byelorussia).
During the sixth century, the Slavs populated in current Rumania, called by Theofylaktos Simikatti as Sklavinia.
Next, the Avars brought the Slavs south of the river Danube.
The Avars was a Central Asian people living near the frontier of Iran, probably of Mongol decent.
During the 6 century under the weight of Turkish Alteans, they appeared at the Caucasus area.
They penetrated the Balkans in the wake of the Huns and established a Dark Ages empire within the western and central Balkans. They subdued the people that inhabited north of the Black Sea and reached as far as the river Danube. They made a treaty with emperor Justinian (Byzantine Empire), who in return for the services they offered him granted them a part of Pannonia.
In 567 CE. The Avars under the lead of Vaian shattered the Gepids and extended their influence as far as
to the Adriatic Sea.
In 581 CE. They turned against Byzantium and occupied the important city to the empire, Sirmio.
Emperor Mauricio's continuous attacks against them didn't bring any permanent results.
In 597 CE. They unsuccessfully siege Thessaloniki.
In 598 CE. Byzantium made a peace treaty with the Avars.
There was also an agreement that the river Estrus would be the border between the empire and the lands of the Avars................

If the Skopians argue that they are Macedonians too, then why don't they speak ancient Greek!?
Why doesn't history make them right?! Their language is a Slavic one identical with the Russian
Fillip II and the Macedonians spoke ancient Greek!!

Stanford

The Eminent work of the English linguist and geographer Stanford (1877) reports that "the Macedonian land has narrow kinship with the Greek language, as well as with the ethics and customs, the Greek folk poetry, temperament and characteristics, therefore it is approved that the Macedonians are of Greek origin

The name Alexander
The name Alexander is irrefutably Greek, its meaning derives from the verb "αλέξω" -"alexo" (I prevent, I protect, I help) and the substantive "ανήρ", "anir" Consequently means "The man that protects, that prevents, that help".

Alexander the Great and the Olympic games

The proof of Alexander the Great's Greek character is his participation in the Olympic Games in 324 BC. (Following the footprints of his father, who was an Olympic champion and excellent horseman) As we know, the attendance in the Olympic Games was allowed only to Greek, free citizens and not to barbarians. Consequently, if he had been born in Skopia, as some claim, neither the name, neither his language nor his religion would be Greek, neither would he be able to participate in the Olympic Games.

The meaning of Macedonia
The etymology of the toponymy Macedonia is Greek. Herodotus reports that the name Macedonia emanates from the makethnos or makethanos which means high, long, "pyramid like" (In the Dorian dialect makos, "μάκος" = length). Also all toponymy and names of Macedonians of (kings and historical persons) that are reported in the ancient texts, are Greek.

Marsi Kokkinaki. Doctor of Metropolitan University London
Macedonia occupies the bigger part of Northern Greece, from Aliacmonos river and mount Olympus as the river Strimonas and Nestos. First mentioned from Homeros, but also the archaeological discoveries of the region testify an intense presence, at least from 5,000 BC. (Prehistory, Mid-Stone Age).

Herodotus Homeros
Herodotus mentions (1, 56) that the Macedonians was a Doric tribe that was exiled from "Estieotitha" (Thessaly), and lived in the foot of mount Pindos. Homeros in Iliad (V.765, 848-849, Z.226, P.287-289) mentions the Pelasgean (Greek) tribes that lived in Macedonia.

MAKETHNOS:
(founder of the Macedonian tribe. Makethnos ="superior height", tall, long)
Son of Dias (Zeus) and Ethria, daughter of Deukalion.

The Dorians some decades after the end of the Trojan War came through Thessaly and settled in Dorida, which they used as base of operations in order to occupy other countries (states) of Greece. Dorida in the ancient years was the country that extended in the region of former municipality Dorians, in the province of Parnassitha of state Fokida, where today we can find the villages Kastellia, Gravia and Inohori and are today encompassed by the mountains Parnassus to the southeast., by Gionas to the northwest., by Kallidromou to the northeast., and by Itis to the west.

Quotes

That the Macedonians were also Greeks is proven by the Macedonian coins found in archaeological excavations. They all have engraves on them symbols and letters and illustration that are Greek....
Offman-German linguist

The Macedonians, a Greek tribe, with Greek soul and Greek ethic and with a language indisputably Greek... Savan-French archeologist

The king of Macedonia Fillip II was a true Greek both in descent as in his language as well in his education. Ferguson-English historian

The national conscience of the Slavic tribes was so fluid, that those personally interested did not know if they were Bulgarians or Serbs. And needed the terrorism of the partisans in order to finally turn them to one or the other direction ... Hans Geltser-Swiss wise man

Racial the Macedonians are the purest Greek race. After them come the Thessalians and the Epirotes....
Beloh-German historiographer

It is impossible to be a serious scientist and researcher who respects himself, that will question the Greek character of Macedonia. Stenhil-Swiss publicist

..........For starters we are obliged to agree on, that Macedonia taken in a whole means nothing but a geographical region. There is no Macedonian tribe. There does not exist a Macedonian race. In the Greek Macedonia, all its population to the very last one speaks purely Greek. Stenhelin Walter Swiss publicist

The earth of Macedonia is macedonian, but its elements are Greek. Ionas Dragoumis

....ιn reality the so called "Macedonian language" is plasma with mainly political descent.
Vittoke Pisani linguist (essay-Paedial, 1957)

Argeades, the genus of Alexander the Great and forefathers, The Doric tribe that came from Orestiada (Peloponnesus), descendants to Argeas, descendant from the Timenides kings of Argos, consequently from the Heraclides. They came north to the mountain range Pindos, from where they years later moved on eastwards founding the kingdom of Macedonia.

By Athanasiadis Konstantinos k_aliris@yahoo.com